August 21, 2025 • 34 mins
A texter points out a peculiar pronunciation from guest host Kristi Burton-Brown on the word 'wolves,' which she explains as being rooted in her mom's geographical origin. Kelly, Ryan, and callers then have fun with Joe Pesci movie scenes in 'Goodfellas' and 'My Cousin Vinny' which demonstrate his character's unique use of the English language.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
You're on with Dan Kapler Show. I'm Christy Britton Brown
filling in for Dan today. For anyoney who's joining. For
our first hour, we covered a lot of the news
from the special session that just launched at the Capitol today,
the fourth special session in as many years. I'm not
sure how special they are anymore, but there's plenty we
can talk about in this hour. But I'm first of
all going to go to the phone lines. We were
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talking about the wolf reintroduction in Colorado because there was
a bill that made it through Senate committee trying to
change that program a little bit today. So Chris and Centennial,
thank you for waiting over the break, and welcome to
the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Thanks Christy for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Absolutely, what are you thinking about the wolves?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, you know, I believe that they're reintroducing Canadian gray wolves.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Correct, Yes, I know that's a good portion of them.
I think some came from either Oregon or Washington as well.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, so it's to me they're an invasive species that
isn't native to Colorado or the Rocky Mountains, which you know,
I believe those gray wolves are more aggressive, you know,
and if they you know, if there were Rocky mountain
wolves around, they would kill them anyhow, you know, the
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Canadian the you know, so it was a bad idea
all from the get go. Yeah, it's very horrible, horribly
written bill, and you know, and it's been horribly managed
so well, and it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Probably should be a note to voters that like, there
was no management plan in the ballot measure that they
voted for.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's just like, oh, the state can create it later,
and this is how they follow it up.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Failed. You know, they've got a failed policy. They should
be we should be able to get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And I agree with you, and I think in general
we try and respect the will of voters in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
But voters weren't.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Told that it would be bad wolves brought here like
ones that are killing cows and sheep in other states.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And they weren't told that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
They were told that it would cost eight hundred thousand
dollars it's already cost three point five million dollars with
a two point one million dollar budget this year, so
it's well beyond what voters agreed to.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So I think you're right that it needs some change.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean, this has a been a failed policy. We
should be able to have the right to get rid
of it.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
M h.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Absolutely, and without having I think, in this case, without
having to go to the ballot again, which costs you know,
one to two million dollars again, right exactly. Yeah, Like
legislators should be smarted enough to listen to people around
the state.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
And I think that's what this was.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
A group of I think four or five bipartisan legislators
who are from the area of the state where the
wolves were released, and they're trying to stop the continuation
of the program, and unfortunately the governor was saying that
he was going to veto it if they did that,
so they had to pull that part out of their bill.
That they did get a cut at least to the
wolf reintroduction program through committee today.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And they're also going to Wyoming, and when they go
to Wyoming, their answers just kill them anyhow.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Oh yeah, Well, and that's the thing I think.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Another caller who taught who I talked to in the
last hour said, even like environmental and wildlife activists aren't
happy with it because the wolves aren't getting killed, So
it's not like they're coming here and doing well.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
No, no, they're not. Yeah, like career another failed policy.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Mm hmm, surprise, surprise. Well, thanks for calling in, Chris.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Good day.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
All right, you too.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You're on the Dan Gapla show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
If you also have thoughts, you can call in like
Chris did three zero three seven one three eight two
five five, or you can text your thoughts to Dan
at five seven seven three nine. I'm going to go
through a few different comments that we've gotten over text.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
People always love to ask you why I pronounce wolves
the way that I do.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I don't have an answer for you other than my
mom was a rat.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Again Wolves, Yeah, you're not really hitting the album.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
No, I don't really hit the l wolves.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Wolves.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Always blame my pronunciation on my mom.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
She grew up in Alabama for the first three years
of her life, just where she learned to talk, and
so you know, it's just a convenient excuse. I don't
think I talk like I saw the an accent at all,
but maybe it, like you know, invades a little bit
of how I talk here. Maybe, But yes, you are
not the first person to point that out, so thank
you for the text. Someone else saying if we are
the forty seventh worst state for cost of living, that
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would equal the fourth most expensive, not third.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You are actually correct. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, someone else saying it is a drop in the bucket,
but just look at these CSP cruisers rolling around Colorido
State Patrol with the high dollar wraps on them. Cardo
State Patrol obviously has money to burn, a classic example
of if they got they got to spend it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
From Albert County. Thank you for the rest of your
nice comments. I think you know there's so many parts
of the budget that could be cut if.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We are in the you know, a short fall time
where the Democrats have overbudgeted, overspent. They don't want to
acknowledge that and they just want to say it's a shortfall.
The responsible thing to do is start cutting the budget.
Have all departments across the state institute of five percent cut.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
That's not a difficult thing to do.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Or look at things that might be nice but not necessary,
and you make a point with like the high dollar
wraps on different vehicles. I saw a list actually of
bills proposed by Republicans in the session that added up
to just about a billion dollars in cuts eights.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Let's see, I think it was eight hundred and thirty
four million.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Maybe we're coming from a five percent across the board
cut to state agencies, but then the rest of it.
They were picking through different pieces of the state budget
and saying, here's what we could cut because we don't
actually need it. It might be a want for some people,
a pet project for others, but it's not something we
actually need. And they actually were hitting some of the
vehicle things that the state pays for. So you're onto
something there, even though I think most of their bills
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got killed today but in committee by the demokrap majority.
Here's another comment about wolves. The dirty little secret is
this wolf for introduction is an attack on Colorado hunters.
This is an effort to manage elk and deer herds
using wolves. The activists would rather have a cow elk
brought down by a pack of wolves and be eaten
alive than a hunter harvest from a managed herd to
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be eaten by his family. Lefty transplants did this. Well,
what is very interesting when you look at the vote
count when this ballot measure passed, it was the I
twenty five corridor and specifically the Denver area that voted
yet tipped. The ballot measure was a very close vote.
I can't remember the percentage right now. I want to
say it was like half a percent or one percent.
Don't quote me on that, but a very very close
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ballot measure. And if you looked across the state, the
areas that they wanted to reintroduce wolves into didn't want
it because they have to live with it. They know
what it's like. That's where a lot of hunters live
or where people go. But people in Denver are like,
oh yeah, wolves. I tend to think that their vote
would have been different if it did. Asked if we
should release wolves on the sixteenth Street mall or on
the trails you like to hike close to the Denver
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metro area, I really feel like that would have been
a very different answer. But anyway, that's what we got.
And then here's another one. Colorado fees. Taxes are bad,
federal tariffs, taxes are good.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Ah, you're one of.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Those people that want to bring it back to the
federal government always. And I really think that we would
do well in Colorado to focus on our own budget problems.
And as I mentioned in one of the other segments,
there's actually some polling going on that has showed that
Colorado's actually blame the budget problems on the Democrats in charge.
They think our budget problems are a state problem here
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in Colorado, and they're really not buying the narrative that
the federal government is causing this. And what's also kind
of funny is there was some national polling done on
HR one, the Big Beautiful Bill, so called I kind
of think Trump should have had a different name for it,
like the tax cuts were working, Gambly's bill, something like that.
One Big Beautiful Bill doesn't necessarily communicate actually what's going
on there.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But what was the national polling.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Did is they said, okay, if you just if it's
called the one Big Beautiful Bill, and you know what
to bill that Trump passed, what's this support level? And
the majority of people actually didn't support it. But then
when they took away the name and they described what
it did, like the biggest tax cut in national history,
increasing child tax credits, cutting taxes, exempting them, actually on
overtime and tips.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
The majority of people supported it. So it's sort of.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This narrative of people are like, Oh, I don't want
to support what Trump is doing. I don't I don't
like ness a name. I don't understand what that means,
the one big beautiful bill. But oh when I know
what's in the bill, how it actually helps working families,
what it actually does for me and my people and
my money.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Then they like it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So, you know, I think then when it really comes
down to the bottom line and people understand what's going on.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They like tax cuts.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And especially it's the Colorado thing when you have more
money in your pocket instead of the government having money.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That is something that people support. So I'm about to
go to break.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
If you have other thoughts, you can text them to
Dan at five seven seven three nine or call in
three zero three seven one three eight two five five
and give your thoughts. Another person talking about wolves on
the text slide. Wolf activists claim the reintroduced wolf is
the same species as dogs, but that's just their spin.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
That's basically the point of the text, and that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They don't like to acknowledge really how dangerous some other
species can be. And I think Governor Pols was talking
about a year roughly a year ago about oh, the
next animal we should reintroduce be the wolverine. Like, I
don't think it's a great idea to continue to bring
all these dangerous predators to Colorado. We're a big hiking state.
Like people like to be in the outdoors, that experience
the outdoors without thinking they're gonna get, you know, taken
out by wolves and their dogs attacked by wolverines. I'm
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just not sure this is a path we want to
continue to go down. I'm Christy Britton Brown. You're on
the Dan Gamplea Show.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast where
wolves were.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Wolves, gray wolves, all the same thing. We don't need
them here. But I'm Christy Britton Brown. You're on the
Dankapla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You know the conversation you're having. We're cracking up back
here because we did catch it. But you know, I
wouldn't necessarily picked up on it.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You said.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
A Texter mentioned how you say wolves set of wolves.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
It reminds me of a scene our listeners may.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Remember a classic from a classic Good Fellas, and it's
late at night and spoiler alert, they just killed Billy
Bats and he's in the trunk of the car and
they go over to Joe Pesci's mom's for dinner and
they're trying to make up the story as to what
happened and why they needed a knife.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And the story was they hit a deer and one
was hoofslf wolves was caught in the grill.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
You're missing the most obvious. You're missing the most obvious one.
My cousin Vinnie with.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And in fact that inspired Rush Limbaugh would always say
that from that point for.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Two utes in New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So funny, so funny.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Thank you guys. Okay, well, I'm going to go to
the collar line. Have Dave from Denver joining us here
on the Dan Talpola Show.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Welcome Dave.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Yeah, Hi, KBB. It's it's fun to hear that I'm
giving you a hard time about the pronunciation of wolves,
and I just wanted to point out something. First of all,
I think it's it's so fun to listen to and
I would listen to how you pronounced.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
It all day long.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Thank you the real tapper. And one of the reasons
why I called in was did the same thing with Wolverines.
He dropped the dropped consistent it's wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Listen to Yes, well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Hey, if I want to call it something else, sure
that you that you're phrasing something. I love the fact
that you referred to TABOR as the taxpayer villa rights.
I wish we could get more legislators on the Republican
side to consistently refer to it as the taxpayer pilla
rights instead of TAPER. I just think that it drives
(11:58):
so much more home, right, Well what that is really
all about?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, reminds people what it really is.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Yeah, it really does. And finally, I just wanted to
encourage you on the work that you're doing to get
attention towards this fee issue.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I was curious as far as those people who would
like to have further information, I guess on that is
there information out there or how can we help the
support what you're doing with that?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, no, thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And I'm for anyone who didn't hear the segment where
we talked about it, I said in my work at
Advanced Colorado, we are proposing a ballot measure that would
define fees in the state constitution and then also put
some fees to vote the people if they collect one
hundred million or more in the first five years. But
by defining fee, you actually take a lot of things
the legislator is currently calling a fee, and you put
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it under taxes where voters already have the right to decide.
So I think an answer your question right now, we
always start early and get things through the title Ward process.
Propose you know, a few different types of language to
get the best best kind of language that we can
before we collect signatures. So right now we're not collecting
signatures on it. You can either find language by going
to the Title Ward's website and seeing the different ones,
(13:12):
but probably the easiest thing to do is just to
go to advance Colorado dot org. You can send us
questions there and we're happy to send people the language
on the FEME measure tell you more about what we're doing,
and then also if you send it for our emails,
you'll get updated when we do like collect signatures and
really need people to spread the word about the ballot measure.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Very good, Thank you for taking my call and keep.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
The Okay, I'll do that, Thanks so much, Dave. Good
to have you on the Dan Gavla Show.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
All right, did you know that we'd be talking about
how you?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I know.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I don't think I'm supposed to be the topic of
the show.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm one talking, but how I talk is.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
The topic of the showing for the listeners.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
So we go with it.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
We do, we do, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm actually run through some texts, and you also can
call in like Dave did zero three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five, whatever your comments are on I am
happy to take them or your questions, and then you
can also text Dan at five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
So let's go through a few of these. Let's see
the real.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Ralph texted and said, since our illustrious governor defund the
police professes to be a libertarian, his actions do not
support that. Can we say he is a woof in
sheep's clothing? I think we can. And actually, the things
you brought up Libertarians, this is one thing I actually
want to talk about in the next couple of minutes
is the Libertarians have a new pledge that if candidates
sign it in Colorado Republicans, they'll stay out of the
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races like they did last year in a couple key districts,
CD eight Rebecca Keelty Seat to Colorado Springs. So we'll
talk about that and what's in the pledge this time around.
In just a few minutes, someone else said, didn't the
legislature already approve bringing wolverines to Colorado? And yes, you
are actually correct. They did, but there's still a hang
up in the actual implementation. So they passed it in
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twenty twenty four and it it authorized the Colorado Parks
and Wildlife to restore wolverine but the reintroduction can't happen
and I'm actually reading this information about it yet because
it's contingent on the US Fish and Wildlife Service designating
wolverines in Colorado as a quote non essential experimental population
under federal law. So I guess it's conditioned on some
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federal changes that would have to happen, and that hasn't
happened yet.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Who knows if it even ever will.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But they did pass it tentatively in Colorado, so that's
where it stands.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
All right.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Someone else texting in is saying they're laughing because they
apparently know my mom and know how she pronounces wolves,
and so they said it really must be Alabama. That's
probably my pronunciation. So always funding people who know my
parents listen to the show and text in thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
All right, someone.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Else says, what you should have said is any failure
to acknowledge that increased costs imposed by the government should
be revealed as taxes. But no, you just deflected terriffs
as federal and we're talking about a state issue.
Speaker 9 (15:56):
Lame.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Well, thank you for your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I appreciate all thoughts on the show, but note I
don't agree that tariffs are the same as taxes.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
They are in two different categories.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I definitely do we get of a whole show
talking about tariffs and Trump's tariff policy.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But some people just.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Any time you ever talk about Democrats increasing taxes in
a state, want to be like, well, Trump does tariffs,
and so that's a real topic and it's really not
the topic for today, But you can have your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
On another time when tariffs are in the news, we
can definitely talk about them. So continue to send me
your thoughts and questions. Five seven, seven, three nine Wow
More people texting about wolves and my pronunciation.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So thank you all. Keep it coming.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Call in three oh three seven, one, three eight two
five five. But I do want to go over that
Libertarian pledge a little bit because so many people are
interested in the CD eight race in Colorado. I mean,
gave Evans his seat where he's the congressman has been
declared literally the most competitive seat in the nation where
an incumbent holds a seat right now, So that's going
to be just an incredible race, I think to watch.
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So the Libertarians are proposed that if he signs another pledge,
they will commit to not running someone in the race
against him. They are also taking credit for Rebecca Kelty
state representative who won a key race and saying that
it was a pledge that she signed they called the
Liberty Pledge, and so they always put a few things
in it that you have to agree to for them
to really try and get their people not to run
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in the race. They make you sign it again every year,
and so I think one thing that their chairman said
that is actually pretty interesting is she said the Liberty
Pledge isn't about party loyalty, It's about outcomes for freedom.
In twenty twenty four, we prove that by working strategically,
we can prevent vote splitting, whole, candidates accountable and win
real victories against government tyranny. I think that's something we
can all agree with. That's a great statement. So we
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can talk about a few more particulars when we come
back from the break and make sure Colin if you
have thoughts. Three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
You're listening to the Dan Camas Amplus Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Is it possible it's too utes?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
To?
Speaker 9 (18:06):
What?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Oh? Why was that word?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
What words to?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
What? What did you say? Ute?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Two?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Ute?
Speaker 9 (18:19):
What is a ute?
Speaker 10 (18:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Excuse me? Yanna too? Youthes?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Nice job, Ryan, thank you. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're
here on the Dan Kapla Show. If you are just
tuning in. Everyone today has been having a lot of
fun with the way I say wolves.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I just don't say the y L. That's just how
I pronounce it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Like I said, I blame it on my mom who's
from the South, who taught me how to talk.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
So we'll just go with that.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
We've been talking a lot about wolf free introduction here
in Colorado. And I believe I have a caller who
was waiting almost through the whole break, so I'm gonna
bring him in down from Littleton.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Welcome to the dan Kapla show.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Christ thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Of course, where you had a car.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
That called an earlier that suggested that wolves really don't
belong here, A lot of people may not be aware.
I grew up on a farm in Nebraska, but then
shabb in Nebraska just east of there, there is a
highway historical marker for the fur trading era, and wolves
and bison and elk used to roam Nebraska, so gray
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wolves that were indigenous there and surely here as well.
But a lot of people don't know that. So it's
not that wolves don't belong here. It's just that when
the cattlemen came, of course they shot them all because
wolves like cattle just like we do. So there's a
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number of Coloradans that are hoping to recover some of
the indigenous populations that where it becomes so urbanized now
a lot of people take an anti present anthroperson rick
view of the wolves, and that's like, well, they're keeping
us from shooting the alkar the alk ourself instead of
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having the and the deer and having the wolves who
prey on them. So there's a lot of controversies arounding us,
of course, and it could be argued that parks in
a while life has before we managed the program. That's
why it costs so much. But uh, I you've never
seen wolves in the wild. You have to. You have
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to appreciate them and the beauty of the animal. And
I kind of say, and I'm a farm kid, My
brothers wouldn't like this, but I the wolves were here first.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Beat us out by a day in creation, I think so,
But no, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And always interesting to get different perspectives, especially from someone
who grew up with them and especially have an interesting
mix being raised on a farm as well, So thank
you for sharing that.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Don appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
I've seen them. I've seen the wolves and northern Minnesota
and a magnificent animals.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
We're beautiful, yes, beautiful and dangerous.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
But yeah, right, And I hope you get to learning
how to say you know.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Maybe I'll work on it. I feel little too old
to change my pronunciation, but maybe I'll try.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Thank you much for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Absolutely, thank you. Don appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
All Right, Well I have another caller now, so I'm
going to move to Paul from Denver.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Paul, welcome to the Dan Kapla show you're on with
Christopher and Brown.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Hi Christy. I've been a fan of years for a
long time for the various shows, and you are carry
yourself very well and do a great job. I appreciate
thank You're very kind.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
I have an idea for a balance amendment. We need
to have a property tax and when people have owned
their home for twenty five years and are over sixty five,
no more property tax, or if they've paid it off
entirely whatever the age. Only make this to one residence.
You can have somebody with a bunch of properties, does
it on all of them, just one primary residence. And
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when they once as soon as they sell the house,
then the new people start over fresh, don't have to
pay back all the old taxes, but start fresh, brand
new when they open out until they reach sixty five
years and own the home for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah no, I actually think it's a really interesting idea.
And this is me very much just speaking as me
not as the representative of any organization I work for
or am on the state Board of Educations.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
This is purely just Christy.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
As Christy, I actually think that that would be the
ideal policy. I hadn't thought about the after twenty five years,
but as I've thought about it before, I think when
someone hits the age of sixty five, or if you
pay off your home, I just don't see how government
has any right to continue to charge you taxes on
something you fully own.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
So your twenty five year ideas.
Speaker 10 (22:45):
Paying taxes on a shirt that you bought right and I.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Know they what they argue is like well bills.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Too, you pay your sales tax. Basically they try to
hit you every year with the tax thats you eliminated
as well.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, I mean the fees fees as they call it
in taxes on Colorra cars in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Is just insane right now.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
People have been messaging me or posting on social media
the just a huge increase in fees on cars.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
So, I mean, you're definitely right, as you're.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just getting people from all ends, and really it's government
saying we can't really live within our means. We always
need more, so we have to keep charging people even
when we really no longer sha have the right to
do that. So I think you're I think you're onto
something called Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
That's my deear. I don't have the money to find
there else. I'd tried to about myself. But maybe enough
people get out there, there'll be somebody who decided to
pick it up as the name if we gets out
there often enough.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, Well, thank you for calling in and talking about it.
I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You all right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, And as Paul was talking about, there's just so
many people concerned about property taxes in Colorado, there was
a good solution I think reached last year a compromise
in the legislative session in Advanced Colorado, who I work
for as executive vice president. We had gotten two property
tax measures on the ballot that would have cut and
capped the property tax. The legislature and the governor you know,
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didn't want to go that far, and they were willing
to do a very certain guaranteed cut in cap for
people and put it in the law in a way
where it actually can't be changed unless voters decide to
change it. So I think that was really important to
get a guaranteed cut in cap for people instead of
going to the ballot, which you know, no matter what
polling looks like, going to the ballot is always somewhat
of a gamble because you never know what kind of
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campaigns are going to be run against something or where
voters are going to be going to be at in
the moment when it gets on the ballot. So I
think whenever you can take a guaranteed, when important to
take it. And that's what happened with property taxes last
year in that special session. But I do think there's
still a lot of people who look at property taxes
and question of whether the government continues to have a
right to charge you anything once you've paid off your home,
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once you've reached the age of sixty five. I mean,
you look over in California and you see seniors who
literally have to move out of a house they paid
off because property taxes are too high for them to
pay for in California on Social Security income. And I
think that that signals a very ridiculous system when people
who have paid off their house can't stay in it
because the government continues to charge them. And I know
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there's you know, arguments on the other side that say, well,
but property taxes go to fund schools, they go to
fund fire, they go to fund police services that everyone uses.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
And you know, it's absolutely true.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I don't think that seniors are going to school anymore,
and they've probably paid enough taxes into the school system
that they and their children used by the time they
reach that age. On fire and police, certainly we do
all use that and seniors continue to use it as well.
But I think if we were managing government resources the
right way, we should be able to afford those kind
of services and stop taxing people who have either reached
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the age of sixty five or have paid off their house.
So that is what I personally think is a great
idea one day to happen with property taxes.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Well, we'll see what happens. I'm going to see if
very quickly.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
A minute before I have to take a break, I
can tell you about a new exciting case that has
been brought in federal court, suing once again in the
state of Colorado, who is one of the biggest violators
of the First Amendment, whether we're talking about free speech,
freedom of religion, they just stomp all.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Over those rights.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
If you've lived here for any amount of time and
watch with the Supreme Court does they constantly strike down
Colorado laws for violating the First Amendment. Alliance Defending Freedom
is a really great network that defends people's rights and
they do it pro bono, so they just do a
great job across the nation. But they've brought a number
of cases against the state of Colorado and one they've
taken on now. They're representing xx Y Athletics, which is
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a sportswear company for women and specific Colorado. The law
that they're suing over. Here's how ADF's president was explaining
it today. This law would require the company, when they're
interacting with a customer and the customer tells them, oh,
I have different pronouns, I have a different name, they
must use those pronouns and the name. So it's compelled
speech by the government. Sot's strike number one. But here's
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the biggest part that I think a lot of people
don't like about the law. If you don't comply, as
someone who works at that company, you can go to jail.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You can go to four months of jail.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Time for not using the pronouns and name that someone prefers.
That's absolutely compelled speech by the government and a violation
of people's First Amendment rights.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So a line defending freedom has.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Taken that to court again, assuming the state of Colorado
for a big first minute violation. I'll certainly continue to
follow that and we'll all find out where goes because
we live in Colorado and our los keep getting struck
down for being unconstitutional.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm Christy Britton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You can call in over the break three zero three
seven one three eight two five five or send your
thoughts to Dan at five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So Ryan would know that I very much know that
song coming from a mom who was raised in Alabama
for her first three years. Even better than the song,
in my opinion, is the movie.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But my husband would disagree with me. We had friend
Zilber last night.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And we were talking about movies, and so I was
saying that early on we got married, I.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Was like, oh, you have to watch this movie.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I love it so much, Oh my goodness, and he
hated it, like you can't stand how she acts at all.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
He just thinks he's like her attitude. It is horrible almost,
but she's getting better.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
You do know how that movie originally ended? No, I
don't actually, Okay, so when they go out and the lightning,
yeah does and you know that's like a huge part
of the movie. You know, sorry people if you haven't
seen it, but you know, I'm just gonna alert.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So the original was she died?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
What?
Speaker 6 (28:25):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Okay that I would hate the movie?
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yes, and so they reshot the ending, okay, good, so
that it was.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
A happy, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I actually like sad movies, but they still should Most
of them should end happy. My one exception is Gladiator,
which is actually my favorite movie ever, which I believe
surprised as a few people. They wouldn't put me as
the Gladiator type, but I wouldn't have guessed that, yeah,
that would end sad, and that if it justified sad ending.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Love that movie definitely my favorite.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Have you seen the sequel that came out this year?
Speaker 10 (28:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You like that one?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I did like it, not as much. Okay, I just
don't think you can often replace the original.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
It's hard, but they did it good.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Joff is a lot I have a faithful adaptation, like
what a sequel should be, and I thought Denzel Washington
was outstanding.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
He did great.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
He really did, he really did.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
There's a little maybe too violent for me. I don't
know that's just it's supposed to be. But hey, okay,
I'm Christy Britton Brown. If you didn't know, you're on
the Dan Kapli Show. We're wrapping up the show today.
Spend a lot of time talking about special session, the
legislature coming back again in the middle of summer with
no air conditioning, lucky of them at the building in Denver,
at the Capitol, and they are mostly, according to Governor
(29:28):
Polis's call, going to figure out ways to raise revenue,
i eat, increased taxes on businesses here in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Their excuse is that there's a.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
One point two billion dollar budget shortfall in Colorado, all
caused by those horrible, awful Republican congressmen and women we
have from Colorado in Washington, DC. Now, the reason that
the Democrats are trying to so hard to pitch it
that way is because.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
They probably have seen the same polling the.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Rest of us have seen that the majority of voters
in Colorado actually blame them. They actually think that the
state is responsible for the state's budgetary problems shocker, and
that it's not actually the federal government's fault. One reason
that people think that is because as much you know,
bad takes as HR one, the big beautiful Bill has
gotten from the Democrats and the liberals.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
The reality is it was the biggest.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Tax cut in national history, and it also increased the
child tax credit. It also did some great things for
school choice. It also cuts taxes on overtime and tips
and in fact exempted overtime and tips from taxes from
federal taxes. And so that's a huge win for working
families when people understand the details of that bill and
see more money in their pockets, like, that's what the
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one point two billion dollars shortfall is. It's a tax
cut that's in the pockets of working families and the
businesses that employ them. So I think people are waking
up to the fact that the legislature has blown a
three point six billion dollars surplus that they had just
three years ago, and now they're whining and crying after
about having to cut what amounts to three percent of
their budget, Like they have a forty four billion dollar budget,
(30:56):
a budget that's increased fifty percent in the last seven years.
Like I know, I said this a lot, but I
really like to say it because it's true. How many
families across Colorado have had to sit down because the
inflation and the high cost of living in our state,
one of the top most expensive states in the nation,
and families have had to say, inflation is higher than
any increase I've gotten in my salary.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Where can we cut our budget?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And they're doing the hard work, but the legislature doesn't
want to come back to Denver and do the hard work. Instead,
they want to say, no, let's make businesses pay for it.
And I do want to actually read. If I can
pull it up, I've pulled it up.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Representative Ryan Gonzalez, he's one of the youngest legislators at
the Capitol, one of the newest ones too, got elected
from Greeley, flipped a Democrat seat in the twenty twenty
four election. I think it was his second try. So
this is why you should keep going and keep doing things.
He won on his second try, and he has a
really great tweet. He said, watching Dems say this state
is unaffordable and hard to be competitive is ironic. Like bro,
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your policies are literally the cause of rising costs, an
unaffordable and uncompetitive business environment. But it's all Trump's fault,
just a distracted method that the Democrats are using to
blame someone else instead of looking at themselves, looking in
the mirror and saying, you know what, we have over budgeted.
We have committed to spend money on programs that we
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actually can't afford. The wolf introduction reintroduction program we've been
talking about all show along is a perfect example on
a small scale. Voters were promised that it would cost
eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Instead it's already cost three point five.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Million dollars with a budget of two point one million
dollars just for this year.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Mismanagement on every level of the state government.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Again, that's a small dollar amount and relative to the
entire budget, but it happens over and over again at
the Capitol, over and over again, in state agencies, over
and over again.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
At the governor's office. If you look at how.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Many full time employees his office alone has added to
the state budget over the last three years, crazy numbers,
and yet they're not looking at like a five percent
cut across the board to cut over eight hundred million dollars.
He would get them there. It would get them over
eight hundred million dollars as they do that, No, like
let's raise revenue on businesses and kick more of them
out of the state. There's literal solutions the governor's proposing
(33:01):
in his special session call, and so we'll see you
know exactly what they pass and what they get done.
But one thing that we'll certainly do in Advanced Colorado
where I work in my other life as executive as
President Advanced Colorado, we already have a lawsuit against the
state for increasing taxes next year on people who pay
overtime without going to the voters and asking the voters.
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It's a violation of Tabor, the taxpayer's bill of rights.
If they violate Taper again in this special session and
change tax policy on businesses, Taper says, you actually can't
do that in the same tax year. And if they
go ahead and do it anyway, which is what they're
saying they're going to do, we're going to add that
to our lawsuit because that is one thing that the
state should absolutely be held accountable for, is their violations
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of the taxpayer's bill of rights. You've probably heard me
say this before, but over seventy percent of Colorado's love
the taxpayer's bill of Rights. In the last two odd
year elections in twenty one to twenty three, the legislature
sent sent measures to the ballot and ask the voters
to let them keep taper refunds huge margins a thirty
point margin.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Last time.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The voter said no, we like money in our pockets,
not with the government. So that's a message the legislature
doesn't like to hear, but they need to hear it,
and they continue to hear it loud and clear whenever
people go to the ballot. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You've
been on the Dan Caplis Show today. Thank you for
joining me, thank you for making fun of how I
say woolf. I'll look forward to being with you again
next time.
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
You're on with Dan Kapler Show. I'm Christy Britton Brown
filling in for Dan today. For anyoney who's joining. For
our first hour, we covered a lot of the news
from the special session that just launched at the Capitol today,
the fourth special session in as many years. I'm not
sure how special they are anymore, but there's plenty we
can talk about in this hour. But I'm first of
all going to go to the phone lines. We were
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talking about the wolf reintroduction in Colorado because there was
a bill that made it through Senate committee trying to
change that program a little bit today. So Chris and Centennial,
thank you for waiting over the break, and welcome to
the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Thanks Christy for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Absolutely, what are you thinking about the wolves?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, you know, I believe that they're reintroducing Canadian gray wolves.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Correct, Yes, I know that's a good portion of them.
I think some came from either Oregon or Washington as well.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, so it's to me they're an invasive species that
isn't native to Colorado or the Rocky Mountains, which you know,
I believe those gray wolves are more aggressive, you know,
and if they you know, if there were Rocky mountain
wolves around, they would kill them anyhow, you know, the
(01:24):
Canadian the you know, so it was a bad idea
all from the get go. Yeah, it's very horrible, horribly
written bill, and you know, and it's been horribly managed
so well, and it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Probably should be a note to voters that like, there
was no management plan in the ballot measure that they
voted for.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's just like, oh, the state can create it later,
and this is how they follow it up.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Failed. You know, they've got a failed policy. They should
be we should be able to get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And I agree with you, and I think in general
we try and respect the will of voters in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
But voters weren't.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Told that it would be bad wolves brought here like
ones that are killing cows and sheep in other states.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And they weren't told that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
They were told that it would cost eight hundred thousand
dollars it's already cost three point five million dollars with
a two point one million dollar budget this year, so
it's well beyond what voters agreed to.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So I think you're right that it needs some change.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean, this has a been a failed policy. We
should be able to have the right to get rid
of it.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
M h.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Absolutely, and without having I think, in this case, without
having to go to the ballot again, which costs you know,
one to two million dollars again, right exactly. Yeah, Like
legislators should be smarted enough to listen to people around
the state.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
And I think that's what this was.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
A group of I think four or five bipartisan legislators
who are from the area of the state where the
wolves were released, and they're trying to stop the continuation
of the program, and unfortunately the governor was saying that
he was going to veto it if they did that,
so they had to pull that part out of their bill.
That they did get a cut at least to the
wolf reintroduction program through committee today.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And they're also going to Wyoming, and when they go
to Wyoming, their answers just kill them anyhow.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Oh yeah, Well, and that's the thing I think.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Another caller who taught who I talked to in the
last hour said, even like environmental and wildlife activists aren't
happy with it because the wolves aren't getting killed, So
it's not like they're coming here and doing well.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
No, no, they're not. Yeah, like career another failed policy.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Mm hmm, surprise, surprise. Well, thanks for calling in, Chris.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Good day.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
All right, you too.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You're on the Dan Gapla show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
If you also have thoughts, you can call in like
Chris did three zero three seven one three eight two
five five, or you can text your thoughts to Dan
at five seven seven three nine. I'm going to go
through a few different comments that we've gotten over text.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
People always love to ask you why I pronounce wolves
the way that I do.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I don't have an answer for you other than my
mom was a rat.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Again Wolves, Yeah, you're not really hitting the album.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
No, I don't really hit the l wolves.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Wolves.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Always blame my pronunciation on my mom.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
She grew up in Alabama for the first three years
of her life, just where she learned to talk, and
so you know, it's just a convenient excuse. I don't
think I talk like I saw the an accent at all,
but maybe it, like you know, invades a little bit
of how I talk here. Maybe, But yes, you are
not the first person to point that out, so thank
you for the text. Someone else saying if we are
the forty seventh worst state for cost of living, that
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would equal the fourth most expensive, not third.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You are actually correct. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, someone else saying it is a drop in the bucket,
but just look at these CSP cruisers rolling around Colorido
State Patrol with the high dollar wraps on them. Cardo
State Patrol obviously has money to burn, a classic example
of if they got they got to spend it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
From Albert County. Thank you for the rest of your
nice comments. I think you know there's so many parts
of the budget that could be cut if.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We are in the you know, a short fall time
where the Democrats have overbudgeted, overspent. They don't want to
acknowledge that and they just want to say it's a shortfall.
The responsible thing to do is start cutting the budget.
Have all departments across the state institute of five percent cut.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
That's not a difficult thing to do.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Or look at things that might be nice but not necessary,
and you make a point with like the high dollar
wraps on different vehicles. I saw a list actually of
bills proposed by Republicans in the session that added up
to just about a billion dollars in cuts eights.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Let's see, I think it was eight hundred and thirty
four million.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Maybe we're coming from a five percent across the board
cut to state agencies, but then the rest of it.
They were picking through different pieces of the state budget
and saying, here's what we could cut because we don't
actually need it. It might be a want for some people,
a pet project for others, but it's not something we
actually need. And they actually were hitting some of the
vehicle things that the state pays for. So you're onto
something there, even though I think most of their bills
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got killed today but in committee by the demokrap majority.
Here's another comment about wolves. The dirty little secret is
this wolf for introduction is an attack on Colorado hunters.
This is an effort to manage elk and deer herds
using wolves. The activists would rather have a cow elk
brought down by a pack of wolves and be eaten
alive than a hunter harvest from a managed herd to
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be eaten by his family. Lefty transplants did this. Well,
what is very interesting when you look at the vote
count when this ballot measure passed, it was the I
twenty five corridor and specifically the Denver area that voted
yet tipped. The ballot measure was a very close vote.
I can't remember the percentage right now. I want to
say it was like half a percent or one percent.
Don't quote me on that, but a very very close
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ballot measure. And if you looked across the state, the
areas that they wanted to reintroduce wolves into didn't want
it because they have to live with it. They know
what it's like. That's where a lot of hunters live
or where people go. But people in Denver are like,
oh yeah, wolves. I tend to think that their vote
would have been different if it did. Asked if we
should release wolves on the sixteenth Street mall or on
the trails you like to hike close to the Denver
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metro area, I really feel like that would have been
a very different answer. But anyway, that's what we got.
And then here's another one. Colorado fees. Taxes are bad,
federal tariffs, taxes are good.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Ah, you're one of.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Those people that want to bring it back to the
federal government always. And I really think that we would
do well in Colorado to focus on our own budget problems.
And as I mentioned in one of the other segments,
there's actually some polling going on that has showed that
Colorado's actually blame the budget problems on the Democrats in charge.
They think our budget problems are a state problem here
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in Colorado, and they're really not buying the narrative that
the federal government is causing this. And what's also kind
of funny is there was some national polling done on
HR one, the Big Beautiful Bill, so called I kind
of think Trump should have had a different name for it,
like the tax cuts were working, Gambly's bill, something like that.
One Big Beautiful Bill doesn't necessarily communicate actually what's going
on there.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But what was the national polling.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Did is they said, okay, if you just if it's
called the one Big Beautiful Bill, and you know what
to bill that Trump passed, what's this support level? And
the majority of people actually didn't support it. But then
when they took away the name and they described what
it did, like the biggest tax cut in national history,
increasing child tax credits, cutting taxes, exempting them, actually on
overtime and tips.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
The majority of people supported it. So it's sort of.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This narrative of people are like, Oh, I don't want
to support what Trump is doing. I don't I don't
like ness a name. I don't understand what that means,
the one big beautiful bill. But oh when I know
what's in the bill, how it actually helps working families,
what it actually does for me and my people and
my money.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Then they like it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So, you know, I think then when it really comes
down to the bottom line and people understand what's going on.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They like tax cuts.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And especially it's the Colorado thing when you have more
money in your pocket instead of the government having money.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That is something that people support. So I'm about to
go to break.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
If you have other thoughts, you can text them to
Dan at five seven seven three nine or call in
three zero three seven one three eight two five five
and give your thoughts. Another person talking about wolves on
the text slide. Wolf activists claim the reintroduced wolf is
the same species as dogs, but that's just their spin.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
That's basically the point of the text, and that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They don't like to acknowledge really how dangerous some other
species can be. And I think Governor Pols was talking
about a year roughly a year ago about oh, the
next animal we should reintroduce be the wolverine. Like, I
don't think it's a great idea to continue to bring
all these dangerous predators to Colorado. We're a big hiking state.
Like people like to be in the outdoors, that experience
the outdoors without thinking they're gonna get, you know, taken
out by wolves and their dogs attacked by wolverines. I'm
(09:35):
just not sure this is a path we want to
continue to go down. I'm Christy Britton Brown. You're on
the Dan Gamplea Show.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast where
wolves were.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Wolves, gray wolves, all the same thing. We don't need
them here. But I'm Christy Britton Brown. You're on the
Dankapla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You know the conversation you're having. We're cracking up back
here because we did catch it. But you know, I
wouldn't necessarily picked up on it.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You said.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
A Texter mentioned how you say wolves set of wolves.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
It reminds me of a scene our listeners may.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Remember a classic from a classic Good Fellas, and it's
late at night and spoiler alert, they just killed Billy
Bats and he's in the trunk of the car and
they go over to Joe Pesci's mom's for dinner and
they're trying to make up the story as to what
happened and why they needed a knife.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And the story was they hit a deer and one
was hoofslf wolves was caught in the grill.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
You're missing the most obvious. You're missing the most obvious one.
My cousin Vinnie with.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And in fact that inspired Rush Limbaugh would always say
that from that point for.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Two utes in New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So funny, so funny.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Thank you guys. Okay, well, I'm going to go to
the collar line. Have Dave from Denver joining us here
on the Dan Talpola Show.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Welcome Dave.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Yeah, Hi, KBB. It's it's fun to hear that I'm
giving you a hard time about the pronunciation of wolves,
and I just wanted to point out something. First of all,
I think it's it's so fun to listen to and
I would listen to how you pronounced.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
It all day long.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Thank you the real tapper. And one of the reasons
why I called in was did the same thing with Wolverines.
He dropped the dropped consistent it's wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Listen to Yes, well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Hey, if I want to call it something else, sure
that you that you're phrasing something. I love the fact
that you referred to TABOR as the taxpayer villa rights.
I wish we could get more legislators on the Republican
side to consistently refer to it as the taxpayer pilla
rights instead of TAPER. I just think that it drives
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so much more home, right, Well what that is really
all about?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, reminds people what it really is.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Yeah, it really does. And finally, I just wanted to
encourage you on the work that you're doing to get
attention towards this fee issue.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I was curious as far as those people who would
like to have further information, I guess on that is
there information out there or how can we help the
support what you're doing with that?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, no, thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And I'm for anyone who didn't hear the segment where
we talked about it, I said in my work at
Advanced Colorado, we are proposing a ballot measure that would
define fees in the state constitution and then also put
some fees to vote the people if they collect one
hundred million or more in the first five years. But
by defining fee, you actually take a lot of things
the legislator is currently calling a fee, and you put
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it under taxes where voters already have the right to decide.
So I think an answer your question right now, we
always start early and get things through the title Ward process.
Propose you know, a few different types of language to
get the best best kind of language that we can
before we collect signatures. So right now we're not collecting
signatures on it. You can either find language by going
to the Title Ward's website and seeing the different ones,
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but probably the easiest thing to do is just to
go to advance Colorado dot org. You can send us
questions there and we're happy to send people the language
on the FEME measure tell you more about what we're doing,
and then also if you send it for our emails,
you'll get updated when we do like collect signatures and
really need people to spread the word about the ballot measure.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Very good, Thank you for taking my call and keep.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
The Okay, I'll do that, Thanks so much, Dave. Good
to have you on the Dan Gavla Show.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
All right, did you know that we'd be talking about
how you?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I know.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I don't think I'm supposed to be the topic of
the show.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm one talking, but how I talk is.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
The topic of the showing for the listeners.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
So we go with it.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
We do, we do, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm actually run through some texts, and you also can
call in like Dave did zero three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five, whatever your comments are on I am
happy to take them or your questions, and then you
can also text Dan at five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
So let's go through a few of these. Let's see
the real.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Ralph texted and said, since our illustrious governor defund the
police professes to be a libertarian, his actions do not
support that. Can we say he is a woof in
sheep's clothing? I think we can. And actually, the things
you brought up Libertarians, this is one thing I actually
want to talk about in the next couple of minutes
is the Libertarians have a new pledge that if candidates
sign it in Colorado Republicans, they'll stay out of the
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races like they did last year in a couple key districts,
CD eight Rebecca Keelty Seat to Colorado Springs. So we'll
talk about that and what's in the pledge this time around.
In just a few minutes, someone else said, didn't the
legislature already approve bringing wolverines to Colorado? And yes, you
are actually correct. They did, but there's still a hang
up in the actual implementation. So they passed it in
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twenty twenty four and it it authorized the Colorado Parks
and Wildlife to restore wolverine but the reintroduction can't happen
and I'm actually reading this information about it yet because
it's contingent on the US Fish and Wildlife Service designating
wolverines in Colorado as a quote non essential experimental population
under federal law. So I guess it's conditioned on some
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federal changes that would have to happen, and that hasn't
happened yet.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Who knows if it even ever will.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But they did pass it tentatively in Colorado, so that's
where it stands.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
All right.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Someone else texting in is saying they're laughing because they
apparently know my mom and know how she pronounces wolves,
and so they said it really must be Alabama. That's
probably my pronunciation. So always funding people who know my
parents listen to the show and text in thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
All right, someone.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Else says, what you should have said is any failure
to acknowledge that increased costs imposed by the government should
be revealed as taxes. But no, you just deflected terriffs
as federal and we're talking about a state issue.
Speaker 9 (15:56):
Lame.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Well, thank you for your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I appreciate all thoughts on the show, but note I
don't agree that tariffs are the same as taxes.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
They are in two different categories.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I definitely do we get of a whole show
talking about tariffs and Trump's tariff policy.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But some people just.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Any time you ever talk about Democrats increasing taxes in
a state, want to be like, well, Trump does tariffs,
and so that's a real topic and it's really not
the topic for today, But you can have your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
On another time when tariffs are in the news, we
can definitely talk about them. So continue to send me
your thoughts and questions. Five seven, seven, three nine Wow
More people texting about wolves and my pronunciation.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So thank you all. Keep it coming.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Call in three oh three seven, one, three eight two
five five. But I do want to go over that
Libertarian pledge a little bit because so many people are
interested in the CD eight race in Colorado. I mean,
gave Evans his seat where he's the congressman has been
declared literally the most competitive seat in the nation where
an incumbent holds a seat right now, So that's going
to be just an incredible race, I think to watch.
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So the Libertarians are proposed that if he signs another pledge,
they will commit to not running someone in the race
against him. They are also taking credit for Rebecca Kelty
state representative who won a key race and saying that
it was a pledge that she signed they called the
Liberty Pledge, and so they always put a few things
in it that you have to agree to for them
to really try and get their people not to run
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in the race. They make you sign it again every year,
and so I think one thing that their chairman said
that is actually pretty interesting is she said the Liberty
Pledge isn't about party loyalty, It's about outcomes for freedom.
In twenty twenty four, we prove that by working strategically,
we can prevent vote splitting, whole, candidates accountable and win
real victories against government tyranny. I think that's something we
can all agree with. That's a great statement. So we
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can talk about a few more particulars when we come
back from the break and make sure Colin if you
have thoughts. Three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
You're listening to the Dan Camas Amplus Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Is it possible it's too utes?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
To?
Speaker 9 (18:06):
What?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Oh? Why was that word?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
What words to?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
What? What did you say? Ute?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Two?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Ute?
Speaker 9 (18:19):
What is a ute?
Speaker 10 (18:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Excuse me? Yanna too? Youthes?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Nice job, Ryan, thank you. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're
here on the Dan Kapla Show. If you are just
tuning in. Everyone today has been having a lot of
fun with the way I say wolves.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I just don't say the y L. That's just how
I pronounce it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Like I said, I blame it on my mom who's
from the South, who taught me how to talk.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
So we'll just go with that.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
We've been talking a lot about wolf free introduction here
in Colorado. And I believe I have a caller who
was waiting almost through the whole break, so I'm gonna
bring him in down from Littleton.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Welcome to the dan Kapla show.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Christ thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Of course, where you had a car.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
That called an earlier that suggested that wolves really don't
belong here, A lot of people may not be aware.
I grew up on a farm in Nebraska, but then
shabb in Nebraska just east of there, there is a
highway historical marker for the fur trading era, and wolves
and bison and elk used to roam Nebraska, so gray
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wolves that were indigenous there and surely here as well.
But a lot of people don't know that. So it's
not that wolves don't belong here. It's just that when
the cattlemen came, of course they shot them all because
wolves like cattle just like we do. So there's a
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number of Coloradans that are hoping to recover some of
the indigenous populations that where it becomes so urbanized now
a lot of people take an anti present anthroperson rick
view of the wolves, and that's like, well, they're keeping
us from shooting the alkar the alk ourself instead of
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having the and the deer and having the wolves who
prey on them. So there's a lot of controversies arounding us,
of course, and it could be argued that parks in
a while life has before we managed the program. That's
why it costs so much. But uh, I you've never
seen wolves in the wild. You have to. You have
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to appreciate them and the beauty of the animal. And
I kind of say, and I'm a farm kid, My
brothers wouldn't like this, but I the wolves were here first.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Beat us out by a day in creation, I think so,
But no, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And always interesting to get different perspectives, especially from someone
who grew up with them and especially have an interesting
mix being raised on a farm as well, So thank
you for sharing that.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Don appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
I've seen them. I've seen the wolves and northern Minnesota
and a magnificent animals.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
We're beautiful, yes, beautiful and dangerous.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
But yeah, right, And I hope you get to learning
how to say you know.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Maybe I'll work on it. I feel little too old
to change my pronunciation, but maybe I'll try.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Thank you much for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Absolutely, thank you. Don appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
All Right, Well I have another caller now, so I'm
going to move to Paul from Denver.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Paul, welcome to the Dan Kapla show you're on with
Christopher and Brown.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Hi Christy. I've been a fan of years for a
long time for the various shows, and you are carry
yourself very well and do a great job. I appreciate
thank You're very kind.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
I have an idea for a balance amendment. We need
to have a property tax and when people have owned
their home for twenty five years and are over sixty five,
no more property tax, or if they've paid it off
entirely whatever the age. Only make this to one residence.
You can have somebody with a bunch of properties, does
it on all of them, just one primary residence. And
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when they once as soon as they sell the house,
then the new people start over fresh, don't have to
pay back all the old taxes, but start fresh, brand
new when they open out until they reach sixty five
years and own the home for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah no, I actually think it's a really interesting idea.
And this is me very much just speaking as me
not as the representative of any organization I work for
or am on the state Board of Educations.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
This is purely just Christy.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
As Christy, I actually think that that would be the
ideal policy. I hadn't thought about the after twenty five years,
but as I've thought about it before, I think when
someone hits the age of sixty five, or if you
pay off your home, I just don't see how government
has any right to continue to charge you taxes on
something you fully own.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
So your twenty five year ideas.
Speaker 10 (22:45):
Paying taxes on a shirt that you bought right and I.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Know they what they argue is like well bills.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Too, you pay your sales tax. Basically they try to
hit you every year with the tax thats you eliminated
as well.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, I mean the fees fees as they call it
in taxes on Colorra cars in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Is just insane right now.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
People have been messaging me or posting on social media
the just a huge increase in fees on cars.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
So, I mean, you're definitely right, as you're.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just getting people from all ends, and really it's government
saying we can't really live within our means. We always
need more, so we have to keep charging people even
when we really no longer sha have the right to
do that. So I think you're I think you're onto
something called Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
That's my deear. I don't have the money to find
there else. I'd tried to about myself. But maybe enough
people get out there, there'll be somebody who decided to
pick it up as the name if we gets out
there often enough.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, Well, thank you for calling in and talking about it.
I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You all right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, And as Paul was talking about, there's just so
many people concerned about property taxes in Colorado, there was
a good solution I think reached last year a compromise
in the legislative session in Advanced Colorado, who I work
for as executive vice president. We had gotten two property
tax measures on the ballot that would have cut and
capped the property tax. The legislature and the governor you know,
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didn't want to go that far, and they were willing
to do a very certain guaranteed cut in cap for
people and put it in the law in a way
where it actually can't be changed unless voters decide to
change it. So I think that was really important to
get a guaranteed cut in cap for people instead of
going to the ballot, which you know, no matter what
polling looks like, going to the ballot is always somewhat
of a gamble because you never know what kind of
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campaigns are going to be run against something or where
voters are going to be going to be at in
the moment when it gets on the ballot. So I
think whenever you can take a guaranteed, when important to
take it. And that's what happened with property taxes last
year in that special session. But I do think there's
still a lot of people who look at property taxes
and question of whether the government continues to have a
right to charge you anything once you've paid off your home,
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once you've reached the age of sixty five. I mean,
you look over in California and you see seniors who
literally have to move out of a house they paid
off because property taxes are too high for them to
pay for in California on Social Security income. And I
think that that signals a very ridiculous system when people
who have paid off their house can't stay in it
because the government continues to charge them. And I know
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there's you know, arguments on the other side that say, well,
but property taxes go to fund schools, they go to
fund fire, they go to fund police services that everyone uses.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
And you know, it's absolutely true.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I don't think that seniors are going to school anymore,
and they've probably paid enough taxes into the school system
that they and their children used by the time they
reach that age. On fire and police, certainly we do
all use that and seniors continue to use it as well.
But I think if we were managing government resources the
right way, we should be able to afford those kind
of services and stop taxing people who have either reached
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the age of sixty five or have paid off their house.
So that is what I personally think is a great
idea one day to happen with property taxes.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Well, we'll see what happens. I'm going to see if
very quickly.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
A minute before I have to take a break, I
can tell you about a new exciting case that has
been brought in federal court, suing once again in the
state of Colorado, who is one of the biggest violators
of the First Amendment, whether we're talking about free speech,
freedom of religion, they just stomp all.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Over those rights.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
If you've lived here for any amount of time and
watch with the Supreme Court does they constantly strike down
Colorado laws for violating the First Amendment. Alliance Defending Freedom
is a really great network that defends people's rights and
they do it pro bono, so they just do a
great job across the nation. But they've brought a number
of cases against the state of Colorado and one they've
taken on now. They're representing xx Y Athletics, which is
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a sportswear company for women and specific Colorado. The law
that they're suing over. Here's how ADF's president was explaining
it today. This law would require the company, when they're
interacting with a customer and the customer tells them, oh,
I have different pronouns, I have a different name, they
must use those pronouns and the name. So it's compelled
speech by the government. Sot's strike number one. But here's
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the biggest part that I think a lot of people
don't like about the law. If you don't comply, as
someone who works at that company, you can go to jail.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You can go to four months of jail.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Time for not using the pronouns and name that someone prefers.
That's absolutely compelled speech by the government and a violation
of people's First Amendment rights.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So a line defending freedom has.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Taken that to court again, assuming the state of Colorado
for a big first minute violation. I'll certainly continue to
follow that and we'll all find out where goes because
we live in Colorado and our los keep getting struck
down for being unconstitutional.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm Christy Britton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You can call in over the break three zero three
seven one three eight two five five or send your
thoughts to Dan at five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So Ryan would know that I very much know that
song coming from a mom who was raised in Alabama
for her first three years. Even better than the song,
in my opinion, is the movie.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But my husband would disagree with me. We had friend
Zilber last night.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And we were talking about movies, and so I was
saying that early on we got married, I.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Was like, oh, you have to watch this movie.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I love it so much, Oh my goodness, and he
hated it, like you can't stand how she acts at all.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
He just thinks he's like her attitude. It is horrible almost,
but she's getting better.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
You do know how that movie originally ended? No, I
don't actually, Okay, so when they go out and the lightning,
yeah does and you know that's like a huge part
of the movie. You know, sorry people if you haven't
seen it, but you know, I'm just gonna alert.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So the original was she died?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
What?
Speaker 6 (28:25):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Okay that I would hate the movie?
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yes, and so they reshot the ending, okay, good, so
that it was.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
A happy, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I actually like sad movies, but they still should Most
of them should end happy. My one exception is Gladiator,
which is actually my favorite movie ever, which I believe
surprised as a few people. They wouldn't put me as
the Gladiator type, but I wouldn't have guessed that, yeah,
that would end sad, and that if it justified sad ending.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Love that movie definitely my favorite.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Have you seen the sequel that came out this year?
Speaker 10 (28:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You like that one?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I did like it, not as much. Okay, I just
don't think you can often replace the original.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
It's hard, but they did it good.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Joff is a lot I have a faithful adaptation, like
what a sequel should be, and I thought Denzel Washington
was outstanding.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
He did great.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
He really did, he really did.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
There's a little maybe too violent for me. I don't
know that's just it's supposed to be. But hey, okay,
I'm Christy Britton Brown. If you didn't know, you're on
the Dan Kapli Show. We're wrapping up the show today.
Spend a lot of time talking about special session, the
legislature coming back again in the middle of summer with
no air conditioning, lucky of them at the building in Denver,
at the Capitol, and they are mostly, according to Governor
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Polis's call, going to figure out ways to raise revenue,
i eat, increased taxes on businesses here in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Their excuse is that there's a.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
One point two billion dollar budget shortfall in Colorado, all
caused by those horrible, awful Republican congressmen and women we
have from Colorado in Washington, DC. Now, the reason that
the Democrats are trying to so hard to pitch it
that way is because.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
They probably have seen the same polling the.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Rest of us have seen that the majority of voters
in Colorado actually blame them. They actually think that the
state is responsible for the state's budgetary problems shocker, and
that it's not actually the federal government's fault. One reason
that people think that is because as much you know,
bad takes as HR one, the big beautiful Bill has
gotten from the Democrats and the liberals.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
The reality is it was the biggest.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Tax cut in national history, and it also increased the
child tax credit. It also did some great things for
school choice. It also cuts taxes on overtime and tips
and in fact exempted overtime and tips from taxes from
federal taxes. And so that's a huge win for working
families when people understand the details of that bill and
see more money in their pockets, like, that's what the
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one point two billion dollars shortfall is. It's a tax
cut that's in the pockets of working families and the
businesses that employ them. So I think people are waking
up to the fact that the legislature has blown a
three point six billion dollars surplus that they had just
three years ago, and now they're whining and crying after
about having to cut what amounts to three percent of
their budget, Like they have a forty four billion dollar budget,
(30:56):
a budget that's increased fifty percent in the last seven years.
Like I know, I said this a lot, but I
really like to say it because it's true. How many
families across Colorado have had to sit down because the
inflation and the high cost of living in our state,
one of the top most expensive states in the nation,
and families have had to say, inflation is higher than
any increase I've gotten in my salary.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Where can we cut our budget?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And they're doing the hard work, but the legislature doesn't
want to come back to Denver and do the hard work. Instead,
they want to say, no, let's make businesses pay for it.
And I do want to actually read. If I can
pull it up, I've pulled it up.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Representative Ryan Gonzalez, he's one of the youngest legislators at
the Capitol, one of the newest ones too, got elected
from Greeley, flipped a Democrat seat in the twenty twenty
four election. I think it was his second try. So
this is why you should keep going and keep doing things.
He won on his second try, and he has a
really great tweet. He said, watching Dems say this state
is unaffordable and hard to be competitive is ironic. Like bro,
(31:49):
your policies are literally the cause of rising costs, an
unaffordable and uncompetitive business environment. But it's all Trump's fault,
just a distracted method that the Democrats are using to
blame someone else instead of looking at themselves, looking in
the mirror and saying, you know what, we have over budgeted.
We have committed to spend money on programs that we
(32:10):
actually can't afford. The wolf introduction reintroduction program we've been
talking about all show along is a perfect example on
a small scale. Voters were promised that it would cost
eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Instead it's already cost three point five.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Million dollars with a budget of two point one million
dollars just for this year.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Mismanagement on every level of the state government.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Again, that's a small dollar amount and relative to the
entire budget, but it happens over and over again at
the Capitol, over and over again, in state agencies, over
and over again.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
At the governor's office. If you look at how.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Many full time employees his office alone has added to
the state budget over the last three years, crazy numbers,
and yet they're not looking at like a five percent
cut across the board to cut over eight hundred million dollars.
He would get them there. It would get them over
eight hundred million dollars as they do that, No, like
let's raise revenue on businesses and kick more of them
out of the state. There's literal solutions the governor's proposing
(33:01):
in his special session call, and so we'll see you
know exactly what they pass and what they get done.
But one thing that we'll certainly do in Advanced Colorado
where I work in my other life as executive as
President Advanced Colorado, we already have a lawsuit against the
state for increasing taxes next year on people who pay
overtime without going to the voters and asking the voters.
(33:23):
It's a violation of Tabor, the taxpayer's bill of rights.
If they violate Taper again in this special session and
change tax policy on businesses, Taper says, you actually can't
do that in the same tax year. And if they
go ahead and do it anyway, which is what they're
saying they're going to do, we're going to add that
to our lawsuit because that is one thing that the
state should absolutely be held accountable for, is their violations
(33:43):
of the taxpayer's bill of rights. You've probably heard me
say this before, but over seventy percent of Colorado's love
the taxpayer's bill of Rights. In the last two odd
year elections in twenty one to twenty three, the legislature
sent sent measures to the ballot and ask the voters
to let them keep taper refunds huge margins a thirty
point margin.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Last time.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The voter said no, we like money in our pockets,
not with the government. So that's a message the legislature
doesn't like to hear, but they need to hear it,
and they continue to hear it loud and clear whenever
people go to the ballot. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You've
been on the Dan Caplis Show today. Thank you for
joining me, thank you for making fun of how I
say woolf. I'll look forward to being with you again
next time.
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