August 22, 2025 • 34 mins
Rep. Rose Pugliese (R-14), minority leader in the Colorado House, joins Heidi Ganahl (in for Dan) with a Friday update on a special session of the General Assembly called by Governor Jared Polis. No spending programs were cut to account for the $1.2 billion shortfall, but Democrat bills are pending that would increase revenue by imposing additional 'fees' and TABOR end-arounds to effectively tax Coloradans more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Happy Happy Friday everyone. This is Heidigan All filling in
for Dan Caples with my friend Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Ryan, you had a great show.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I listened to most of it in between figuring out
where my kids are supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And yeah, dropping the ball out of you.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
That seems like a real task for you today. That one.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Watch my husband or daughters listening right now.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
They don't pay you enough.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, but there's this really cool thing in Douglas County
called The Link.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Have you heard of this?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's a free service where they pick up your kids
and take them where they need to go.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Really yeah, it's really neat.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But unfortunately, my younger daughter was kind of a she's
a little trouble maker. She offered to set up the
Link for Holly, our older sister, and apparently did it wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So Holly's stranded and freaking out.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like two minutes before I go on the oh, I
was like, did she do that on purpose?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Little Jen Jen?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Anyway, Sorry, didn't mean to go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So there is so much.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Going on in the news. I'm really excited. We've got
actually three guests today. One is Rose Poogleci, the House
Minority leader in Colorado, who's going to tell us the
latest greatest shenanigans going down at the Capitol at four
thirty seven today. And then we have Scott Shamblin joining
us at five oh six, who's a character. He does
those crazy, crazy videos of testimony down at the Capitol
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kind of mocking the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Scott's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
He just won one of our Trailblazer Awards from Rocky
Mountain Voice at our Big Mountain Majesty gala. And then
we're going to have CJ Garbo on at five thirty seven.
CJ's an incredible writer for us at Rocky Mountain Voice,
and he did a great piece about election integrity and
what he thinks of our Colorado elections. I also did
one with Bill Lahman this week, so we have a
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lot to talk about in the second hour about our
elections and how wonderful they are. There the gold standard
or are they fools Gold? I think they're fools Gold,
and I'm going to get some flack from that. A
lot of people still think they're perfect. And the more
I've learned since I ran for governor a few years ago,
the more I know they're not perfect. And we've got
to do everything we can to restore faith in our
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elections here in Colorado so that people will actually show
up to vote in twenty twenty six, which we have
a problem with as Republicans here.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So that's what the agenda is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ryan, what was your big hit of your radio show today?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like what stood out to you? What are people talking about?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Well, on Fridays, we have a built in first hour
called The Right Side of Hollywood. We always have a
lot of fun with that with Deborah Flora, Award winning
filmmaker and her own right and Christian Toto, legendary local
film critic, and we talk about all things pop culture
and what's wrong with it and Jimmy Kimmel deciding that
he's going to criticize liberal wokes Golds when he is
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one for why Democrats don't attract more voters because they
try to attract them with vinegar. So there was that,
and then of course our Friday fool of the Week,
and that was James Come for being a creepy, weird
old guy swifty.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So he won that award for today.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He so deserves that. Oh my gosh, he's such a weirdo.
That and the whole writing.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
In the stand. I walked up and there was this
thing in this shells.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
There were shells arranged in a formation that just so
happened to form eight six four seven.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That is nasty.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
That had it been eight six seven five three oh nine,
I would have some.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Respect for that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, so many young listeners aren't going to know what
that's on me, and that's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
We do, we do, And here we.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Go on our Friday eighties rant Kelly and Ryan like
we always end up.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
There, always end up sayespecially on Fridays, right Kelly, Yeah
very much?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, So I have to tell you guys about
a crazy interview I did this week. I got called
by a journalist who's writing a story for fifty two
eighty magazine.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I won't tell you his name.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He's been around a while in Colorado, and he wanted
to know about my retweeting of I am do you Better, Denver?
And why I would retweet that. I said, well, this
is not hard to answer. So you know, we all
feel like if you're going after them, you're going after us,
because do Better Denver is really about telling the stories
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that the media won't tell in Colorado, and then it
goes back on us, people out in the public, to
tell the stories and share what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
He's like, well, the tweet do Better Denver sounds very.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Trumpy, and I was like, what do you mean? He goes,
sounds very harsh. I go, let's talk about harsh. What's
happening to our beautiful city of Denver. What's happening on
the streets there. What's not happening to criminals and drug
dealers on the streets.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's harsh.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But we had this long conversation and I'm this weird
specimen right that they want to examine, like this woman
Republican in Colorado who actually speaks her mind and isn't
afraid of the press, and so they just like picking
on me, really, and it's going to be curious to
see how the story turns out because I gave him
a pretty hard time about how left leaning the media
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is here, and he said, I just don't see that.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I don't see that. I was like, wow, that's shocking
to me.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But Ryan, do you ever get called by other journalists
to give comment or do interviews?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Rarely?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Occasionally a television station want to pull something from, usually
an interview Dan Dan did, or a segment that he had,
and we're fine with that, you know, go ahead and
fair use it and attribute it, and we try to
do the same return. But now they haven't reached out
to me that I've been absent from a couple of
areas like that.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I've never been named on Rhino Watch.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Oh you're kidding.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
No, No, that's the right of passage that I am
missing everybody. I must not be a Rhino, I guess,
and the guys whoever does that little deal?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But have you been on there?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Oh fuck five times? And I'm not a rhino? You
know me, You're not at all?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Good lord, No, no, And in fact, I totally agree
with you, and I chime in and I echo what
you say about do better Denver. I literally compared this
to v for Vendetta when you had that fascistic regime
and people carrying water for it, including that television host
and then you have v himself leading a revolution against it.
And if do better Denver is going to be that
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kind of a clarion call, then Heidi, I am do
better Denver.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, thank you, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We are all do better Denver if we care about
the truth about what's happening to our beautiful city.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And he asked me, well, you don't live in Denver
to you and I'm like, no, but I go there
all the time. It's our capital city. We all are Denver.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Like that's our shining city on the hillar it used
to be, and we're most of us are very sad
about what's happened down there. We went to the Savannah
Bananas Did you guys eat all go?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
How did you get tickets? That thing was like the
hottest ticket in town.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Jason did the lottery weir, Yeah, we actually got a
couple sets of tickets. So the whole family got to
split up and go and what a fun time that was.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But I gave the example like I would not let
my teenage daughter walk downtown to that Savannah's Bananas game
at one o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think it was at three alone.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No no, but my older daughter, Toy, Yeah, I totally
would have back then she's thirty. She just turned thirty.
Like that's the difference, right, Or if we're going to
a theater or going to a play. We went to
Mulan Rouge last week. I would not have let my
sixteen year old go down there alone, even with a friend,
to the play.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But Tory I would have and I did.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And it was a different world we lived in just
you know, however many years that fourteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So it makes me very sad.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It makes me sad that a lot of journalists don't
see what they're saying versus what's happening on the ground.
I said, don't you see the videos, don't you see
what's actually happening.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You can't argue with a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He said, well, things are getting better, Things are getting better,
the statistics are better. Mike Johnston tells us things are better.
I said, well, they're in lies. A problem. We don't
trust you, and we don't trust Mike Johnston, and we
don't trust Jared pull us many of us. And if
we don't trust you, then we have to verify with
our own eyes what's happening and that's where do Better
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Denver comes in.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
They're saying, yes, this is real. Here's a video, this
is real.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
What you feel and see an experience when you go
to Denver is real. Like the crime, the homelessness, the addiction.
It's all there. It's real.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It's not made up in your imagination like trender or
Ragua oh.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
A feature of ones in manager nation. We heard that
one before.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And if the Denver Post, if local media was doing
its job, they must be the other guy, then there
wouldn't be a need for Do Better Denver to fill
in the gaps and fill in the void, because it's
very apparent, especially with this latest doc sing of the
people behind you Better Denver. And I've spoken to one
of those, Jillosa, that their interests lie in currying favor,
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maintaining access and carrying water for the Johnson administration, for
the city pubas the powers that be, and not in
holding those in power accountable like true journalists should. The
Denver Post has an agenda and they just tipped their hand.
They just revealed it to all of us.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's that's exactly right, Ryan, and I think this wasn't
This point was made even more profoundly this week when
it was announced that Fox thirty one's owner was going
to buy its rival, Tegnet, the owner of Denver nine News,
and all the Democrats came out and condemned the proposed
consolidation of local TV news stations in Colorado, and Michael
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Bennett even said it would greatly weaken Colorado's civic infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
What the heck?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, I think they're all worried that Kyle Clark
and their buddies at nine News aren't going to be
able to be there mouthpieces anymore. Yep, we'll see, We'll
see how that goes out. But I know we've got
a break coming up. I'm excited to talk more about
what's happening in Colorado, but also nationally with the Gisell
Maxwell tapes coming out. I've seen a little bit of
that today the Trump press conference, which maybe we can
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come back with that clip Ryan and John Bolton his
house getting rated and Cracker Barrel. That's a really important
story I want to talk about. So let's go to break.
I'll see you afterwards. This is how you get all
filling in for Dan Kaplis. It's a great Friday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's going a good, big event that the Kays centered.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
They parked it in it. Well, you have a park
to play on the cumber fit, I may play.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, I see the money that these soccer players
being under side.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
We call it soccer, but I see the money that
these soccer players that make it. I make giant leve.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I'm a very good athlete. My son, my son is
a very good athlete, and he's a good soccer players.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
On the tall side for soccer.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
He's six nine. That's pretty tall.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But that's pretty tool the tall side. It's on the
tall side. But he's good. But I may, I may
put on shorts.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I'll extremely good.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
In short, see enjoyed the play. It's going to be
a lot of fun. It's gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well that was quite funny President Trump saying that he
might place in the FIFA World Cup.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I grew up playing soccer.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I love the sport, and one of my four kids
finally likes to play soccer. So it's it's an awesome sport.
But not a lot of people, not as many people
watch it. A lot of people play it in America.
I've never quite understood that, but it is what it is.
But we are getting a women's soccer team here in Colorad.
That's pretty exciting, correct, Are you excited?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Ryan?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Uh? Stoked? Beyond words?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
I do know there is a bar downtown Denver pre
plug here for them, but called the British Bulldog. I'm
not sure if you've been there. It's not too far
from coors Field, and I go there sometimes when the
NFL has their early morning games over in London or
across the Pond, and they start like seven am our time,
and people go there at that time because of the
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time difference in Britain to watch English Premier League soccer
and they're not their teams and they do their chants
and it's like you're walking into a literal British bar
and it's kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, it's bizarre that America like it's so like not
like the rest of the world that way.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
But whatever, Well, they all call it football and we've
got our own football and the rest of the world
doesn't necessarily understand our football, though we've been trying to
export it, like I just said, but I think we
just prefer our form of football.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Is your experience that girls are missing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Like this weird gene about knowing about penalties in football.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Like, I've watched football my whole life.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I love football, college football especially, and I still don't
get the penalties right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Like I can watch and go Jason, what was that? Like,
why did that happen?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He's like, how many years have you been watching this?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh? Well, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I think here's my primer for you or anybody else,
is because I've done play by play for football in
college in the past, where was the flag thrown and
the area on the field where it's thrown typically gives
you a hinter of clue as to what the penalty
might be. Like if a flag goes and the play
continues and it's in the offensive backfield, probably going to
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be holding against the offensive line if there's a flag immediately,
but they let the play go and it's at the
line of scrimmage, that's probably offside, but they're going to
let the play continue, so the offense isn't penalized for
something the defense did wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Ryan, I think you might need to teach some classes
or something.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I believe I could.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
We had a class like that when I was working
in arena football, which was really big in the late
nineties early two thousands called arena Football one oh one,
and it was very much like that. You kind of
went over the rules and people signed up and they
learned about the game.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I think if there was beer involved, a lot of
people would come.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I think if there was beer involved, I would be
there as an instructor drinking beer.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
All right, Well, I've got a couple texts. One of
them makes me want to drink. I don't know, this
is funny. HEII.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I voted for you for governor, but now I'm not
sure I could vote for you moving forward. Whilst I
think we should always strive to have the very best
election process, you seem like an election denier.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Uh oh, I know, are you?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I mean, I don't even know what that means anymore.
We know there are.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Issues with our election in Colorado. Jenni Griswold leaked the
BIOS passwords. The Arapahoe County cast vote record was changed
four years after the fact. The drop boxes are not secure.
There's Wi Fi remote access in the machines. After Jennick
Grosweld said there wasn't and we found I think there
were eighteen thousand missing undeliverable ballots in our analysis of
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the US Post Office and their relation to the twenty
twenty two elections. So there are a lot of gaps.
And I don't know why anyone's opposed to securing our
system better and doing everything we can to make it
more trustworthy, because a lot of folks do not trust
our elections now, and so I think it's all in
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what you mean by that, But no, I just want
people to be able to trust that our vote matters,
and right now I know that they don't from being
all over Colorado.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And talking to people. We even did some polling on
this back in.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
March, and sixty eight percent I believe of the people
who responded to the poll did not believe that elections
were completely trustworthy in Colorado.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Well, you just sayed some of the evidence as to why,
and I can only provide the perspective that I had
coming in as a Michigan resident, where most of us,
at least pre COVID voted at a precinct. It was
within walking distance, They had them scheduled throughout the state.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
It was a church, it was a school. You went
there in person, they.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Gave you a ballot, You filled out the ballot in private,
and you put the ballot in the machine and you
watch the number go from like sixty seven to sixty eight,
and that was the chain of custody. I don't like
all mail in voting. I think it sets up for fraud.
I'm not saying that there is fraud necessarily, but it
opens the door to it.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And we just saw in Michigan.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I don't know if you saw this video highlight, there
was a guy in Metro Detroit who was running for
office that was stuffing a ballot.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Box just like we have here and was caught on camera.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Now, if they can show me that they're catching people cheating, great,
I want to see that, but we should be provided
evidence of that, because you know what happens, somebody's got
to try it and maybe they catch it. We need
to see them catching it to rely on them enforcing that.
Otherwise your verification. I have questions about that. Who's doing it?
What's the margin for error there? There's too many questions,
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and more than there should be. If we just had
regular voting the way it used to be, and you
got to riddle me this, everybody out there. Democrats started
winning in large numbers almost exactly when we went to
all mail in voting.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Is that a coincidence? It's hard to believe that it is.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I agree, Ryan, And one of the key things that
we've found. I'm part of this group, a Colored Institute
for Fair Elections Coffee is the nickname, and these guys
do amazing research. And one of the things they've found,
a couple of them are CPA, is that there's no audits, like,
there's no outside audits that go on of our signature
verification process of the machines, of any of the systems.
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And that's really really concerning. So why are they so
afraid of that? And they even went to the legislature
and said, why don't you move the audit of the
elections from the Secretary of State's office to the audit office?
Just get it out of the secretary of State's office.
And they, of course all the Democrats balked and said.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
We trust our beloved Jenni griss World.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I think, oh, that's how I imagine they would sound in
my head.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I don't know, Ryan, that's how it comes across in
my head. But I yeah, we're going to talk more
about that with CJ. Garbo in the next hour. Coming
up after the break is Rose pig Lacy, who's our
House Minority leader.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
There's all kinds of shenanigans going down on the.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Capitol and in this special session, which is really about
just raising our taxes at the end of the day
and blaming Republicans for it. You talked about that on
your show with Jeff Crank, our congressman. What did he
have to say, that's not the case, right, Yeah, exactly.
All right, this is how you can all filling in
for Dan Caplis. We'll see you after the break with
Rose Piglacy.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Hello, Hello, Happy Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis with my
friend Ryan Schulink's been here all afternoon filling you up
with all kinds of good information, and I believe we
have miss Rose Piglacy on the line.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Rose. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Oh, thank you, it's so great to talk to you today.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You too, Rose.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I know there's lots of stuff going on down at
the Capitol. Tell me more about today and what's happening today.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Okay, So yesterday they killed all the Republican bells. Today
we're on the floor debating the Democrat bells, and it's
really really disappointing to see that most of the bills
that made it through committee yesterday, there's still some committees
going on right now actually cut any programs the Actually,
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if you look CSI actually did a study that I
was reading just a little bit ago, and that basically
they analyzed it and basically there's going to be a
billion dollars more in taxes that some of these Democrat
bills wind up moving forward on working families and small businesses,
most of them in direct violation of the tax Payer
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Bill rights voter approval requirements. So that's your Colorado Democrats.
They are not saving money, they are not dealing with
a budget crisis. They are increasing taxes on hard working
families and small businesses in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Congratulations, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, And of course they're blaming the Republicans for all
of this, especially nationally.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Are are federal.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Folks that did a huge tax cut and that's flowing
through it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's why they have to cut the budget. Correct.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah, so yes, there's saying HR one. Now, mind you
the budget forecast that was given to the Joint Budget
Committee that oversees you know, the budget for Colorado Bipartisan committee.
On June eighteenth, we're told that the projections for twenty
six twenty seven were that we were already going to
be seven hundred million in a deficit. As you all
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might remember, we were one point two billion last session,
the session that just passed, and we needed to find
money and make cuts. But that's what the Democrats did.
They put one time money towards fixing this issue, dipped
into reserves and they're like, wait, look at us. We
solved this problem. But the problem is when you continue
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to spend more than you bring in, then you're going
to have budget issues. So the same issues that we
had before will continue. And actually, I mean I've heard
some numbers from our Joint Budget Committee members that Senator
Barb Kirkreier and Representative Bricks Tagart that literally, you know,
too early to project. But none of these none of
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these budget issues are caused by HR one. HR one
doesn't even go into effect. Some of the tax cuts
come in twenty twenty six, some come in twenty twenty seven,
but basically they're tax cuts putting more money in the
pockets of Colorado, and your Colorado Democrats are taking it
out of your pockets and add asking you to add
a little bit more just to help state government grow.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Okay, Rose, So what is the What do we do
as citizens of Colorado who don't agree with what they're
doing down at the capitol.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
How can we help you fight this battle?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
So I think committees are going, but I think they're
almost done. Thank you to everybody who showed up yesterday
to testify on bills. I know we all really appreciated
the support. I think reaching out to legislators and you
can do it on both sides of the aisle. I
get these emails too, and I always want to say, yep,
I'm with you. But I think the more outreach to
Colorado Democrats saying wait, don't take my money. That you
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know families across Colorado are struggling. How do you know,
and Ryan, if he's still on with you, you know
that I've traveled the state, You've traveled the state. We've
all traveled the state, and we've talked to people in
these communities who are struggling. Our seniors who were saying
I can't afford to live in Colorado anymore. And this
is my home. Single moms and dads who are like
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I don't know if I can raise my kids here
in Colorado anymore. And so what are we doing to
help them? This special session does nothing to help them,
but just does everything to help grow government.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, thanks, Rosea.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I read a stat about the size of the budget,
and I think when I was running for governor a
couple of years ago, it had already doubled in the
last decade. But where are we out on the budget?
Is it like forty six billion dollars now for the
state budget?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes? All right?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So, and with that budget has grown the bureaucracy, right,
the number of administrators bureaucrats that run our government, like
those side of things, that's grown exponentially.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Correct, Yes, I.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Mean I don't have that number off the top of
my head, but I know we have grown and increased
full time employees within that organization. When a lot of
small businesses are just struggling to keep their doors open, right,
and then with these new tax burdens, we're going to
be losing thousands of jobs in Colorado. Why would people
start businesses or continue to have businesses in Colorado? Why
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would businesses move to Colorado? How are we going to
become a more business friendly state and employ more people
if we continue to increase the tax burdens on our
businesses and especially our small businesses.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well and rose to make a great point, And we
just got a couple of text messages that ask this
questions Heidi, giving you and your husband's experience in starting businesses,
do you think you or your husband would start a
business now in Denver or in Colorado with the current taxes,
minimum wages, and regulatory burdens. And No, I started can't
bow all the first location in two thousand. It was
(23:58):
a completely different environment. Then we started franchising. With every
franchise location that opened in Colorado, it got harder and
harder and harder to get it open and rent it
because of the taxes, the requirements, the regulatory burdens.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And then one other.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Text came in saying the fact that the Colorada Democrats
are primarily looking at increasing taxes instead of reducing spending
tells you everything you need to know about them. The
better way to fix the budget gap for Colorado would
be to reduce spending. But no Democrats do not want
to cut spending. They would rather tax businesses, which will
likely close some of them or drive them out of Colorado.
(24:33):
Absolutely criminal for them to borrow from the Unclaimed Property frond. Wrong, wrong, wrong,
Alexis says, any words on that.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yes, there is a bill coming through it. We haven't
seen it yet. We thought in committee, I believe, but
not on the hot floor. Or it could be starting
in the Senate. I know it went through committee yesterday.
I actually started in the Senate, so it should be
coming over today. But yeah, I mean the unclaimed property
tax then, I know were unclean property fund.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I know.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
A lot of people look at that as you know,
being able to borrow against it. I know that, you know,
we've had some issues one way or the other. But
I think more importantly, being able to actually deliver real
solutions for Colorado's is what is not happening during this
special session. It's really disappointing. I mean, if you look
(25:25):
at the Governor's call. If I don't know, if you
were Governor Heidi and you had you were facing you know,
seven hundreds who have billion dollars in a deficit, you
would be like, hey, why don't we all come to
the table and figure out how we cut right, how
do we look at some programs and find efficiencies in government.
(25:45):
But the call was so specific, right, so specific that
basically the Democrats already knew what builds this they were
going to push through. They didn't want bipartisan support. It
didn't go through the Joint Budget Committee, which is typically
when you have a budget shortfall how you would address it.
They're using this, and the Speaker even said in an
Executive Committee meeting at the end of July, she basically said, well,
(26:06):
we can't let a good crisis go to waste. So
I would say the theme of this special session is
the Democrats are not letting a good crisis go to waste.
But they're really hurting Colorado families and hard work in
Colorados from across the state.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And gosh, Rose, I love how they're having toxic town
halls across Colorado to commiserate and talk basically push their
talking points out to the grassroots, their grassroots, and.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
It's just such a bunch of bunk.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I hope that our party can do the same and
start to call out these folks in a very organized way.
I know Britta is doing her best to try and
get through the messaging problem we have here in Colorado,
which is really the liberal media that tells one side
of the story.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Let's just wrap up by give me your take on.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This whole nine News acquisition with Tegna as a conservative
woman or a Republican elected official who's a woman, and
we've been on the wrong side of nine new Is
in several cases.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
What are your take? What's your take on that?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I probably get a hold on my take. You know,
obviously I support businesses and the ability for them to
acquire other businesses. It's the free market. So but I
think the really important thing is making sure that we
even outside of media, that we all are able to
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get our message out to our grassroots. I mean, what
makes me so hopeful is we were able to defeat
Proposition HH. You know, as Senator Barb Kirkmeyer and I
led the statewide campaign against it. We were able to
beat the governor and the Democrats, and they were trying
to take the tax Parabilla rights three funds that would
be sixty forty And it was because we educated our
(27:50):
grassroots people and got them outside of the echo chamber
and into our communities, and so I think we need
to continue to do that through this special session and
win the messaging war on the ground with our friends
and neighbors who maybe aren't listening today but need to
understand what Colorado Democrats are doing to them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I agree, Rose, and that's why we started a Rocky
Mountain Voice to give a different perspective and hopefully get
the truth about what's happening to Colorado out to the
massive voters that don't hear that side of the story.
So thanks so much for joining us, Rose. We're going
to take a break. This is Hidi Ganal filling in
for Dan Caples. We appreciate Rose's take what's happening at
the Capitol and we'll talk more afterwards.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And now back to the Dankaplis Show podcast. Hello.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Hello, it's Friday afternoon. Ready for the weekend. This is
Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis. What a week
it's been in Colorado. I am part of a group
Ryan that's hosting a house to Shook thirty and twenty
three over in Lakewood, a fun event on August twenty six,
and we were just going to get people together at
a brewery, have some fun and get more people involved, engaged,
(28:59):
ready for the elections coming up, and this poor brewery
got attacked, vilified by the left. What Oh yes, there
were Reddit threads, there were death threats, there were text
messages to.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
The owners, like the employees were.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Everybody was freaked out and just vicious, and so we
ended up having to move the event. No, yeah, I know,
it's you know, you always hate to cave.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
When you give into the mob, you invite more of it.
I am, That's what I would tell them. This is
not going to go away.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
The bullies know they can win.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I agree, and they just terrified this poor family business owner.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That's horrible.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So we made the decision to move the event because
we didn't want them to feel that anymore. So it
was a it was kind of a joint decision, but
we moved it and it's at a Foothills restaurant.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It's going to be huge, and I would love for
everybody to sign up and get some tickets and come
along and support us and support the idea that this
is not cancelable, Like you can't just cancel half the
state of Colorado who believes something different than you do, right,
So you.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Don't see there are plenty of leftist organizations that will
schedule an event like this, and you never see the
so called radical right going to Reddit putting up threats,
you know, putting that out on social media that we
just don't do that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
No, and this has happened to I think it's called
drip coffee.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Now, really condemn it if they.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Did, right, and they I mean a lot of these
places host both sides.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's not like they pick a side.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Right, and and the speakers who are speaking at this
event are not like super controversial. It was pretty low key.
So anyway, that happened. Then this coffee shop got attacked.
Then another brewery in Colorado Springs, different brewery got attacked.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Remember that, so all in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think this group Indivisible is very organized, and they're
very loud, and they're scaring a lot of people in
Colorado or to speak out or to strong, stand strong,
or to stay firm and just generally being very active.
And I think it's part of this toxic town hall
thing that the Democrats are doing.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But it's very unfortunate.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
And when you have horrible ideas, which they do, all
that's left for you as a recourse is to tear
down the other side, and that's what they're resorting to.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's right, that's right, and why not just argue your
make your case for your arguments. Right, And we actually
invited the people, a lot of the people who are
very upset about this come come to the event and
we'll talk and we'll debate. Wab a beer and we'll
get together and just discuss, well.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
You're not worthy of associating with you are That's how
they view opposition, that it's like a it's a right
and wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's a good and evil thing.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
If we support Trump, therefore we are nazised under his
mind spell or what I mean. That's literally how they
think it's. It's warped, it's demented. It's ridiculous. So what
is the venue going to be Tuesday?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, I'm not going to say the vin your guys,
I don't I don't want people shouldn't have said that.
I don't want them to shore.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
But the how are we gonna go?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, you're gonna want to You're gonna.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Go on my Twitter and there's a sign up link
and they'll tell you where it is and what it is.
And all the things. But it's yeah, it's next Tuesday.
It's gonna be a lot of fun. It's almost sold out,
so it might be sold out by now, but we'll
try and make room for as many people as posts.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
And I'm a different kind of cat.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
But if I ran a bar and I know that
Jason runs you know GQ, and I got that kind
of threat, I go, you know what, I'm doubling down
on this, and you're not going to bully me. You're
not gonna intimidate me, you're not going to push me.
You try any crap, come at me, bro, and I'm
gonna get you know, Sheriff Weekly or Sheriff Reams or
somebody like that, and we're just not gonna You stand
(32:40):
up to that bully and you let them know that
you will not be budged, and they're gonna give up
and they're gonna walk and slither away.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Well that's what we did with the Mountain Majesty Galloy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We had that out in Golden at one of the
big hotels, and the hotel was getting all the threats
and canceled and bad reviews, and they stood strong. I
was really proud of that good and we had, I
having a lot of security. The protest that was supposed
to happen, it was puny. It didn't turn into much,
but boy did they make a big fuss for a while.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And Eric Trump was so great. He was an amazing speaker.
He loves Colorado.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
He grew up coming skiing here with his mom, who
was a champion skier.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
They'd come once a year, probably to Aspen, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
But he was.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Fantastic about it, and he just said, you know, Colorado
and its roots, who it really is is conservative.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's like the wild wild West.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The New Frontier, the edgy entrepreneurial spirit. And he's like,
I really, I really want to focus on taking it back.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
So I do think we've got.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That streak in our state and we have to tap
into that, and we have to stand strong as conservatives.
We can't cave to your point, and we have to
have to have to push back.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
On this stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So I know a lot of people have been showing
up at these town halls. If you did go and
you're listening right now and want to call in, you
know later in the show, I'd love to hear your
take on how it was.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
The one in Loane Tree.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I heard Bob Marshall, of course, the House Rep down there,
who's like the lone Democrat House Rep in Highland's ranch. Oh,
he's got the worst views, like the worst public policy views.
And he was there, and there were a lot of
conservatives there pushing back, and I think we've got to
do more of that, not in a mean spirited way,
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just go show up and ask questions and call them
out and ask them why they believe certain things are
working when they don't when it comes to public policy.
You heard Rose talking about that. So we're going to
have some fun after the break. We're going to talk
to Scott Shamblin, who's always so funny. He has the
best takes on what happens at the Capitol. This is
how you can all filling in for Dan Kaplis. Will
(34:39):
see you after the break.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Happy Happy Friday everyone. This is Heidigan All filling in
for Dan Caples with my friend Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Ryan, you had a great show.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I listened to most of it in between figuring out
where my kids are supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And yeah, dropping the ball out of you.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
That seems like a real task for you today. That one.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Watch my husband or daughters listening right now.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
They don't pay you enough.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, but there's this really cool thing in Douglas County
called The Link.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Have you heard of this?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's a free service where they pick up your kids
and take them where they need to go.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Really yeah, it's really neat.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But unfortunately, my younger daughter was kind of a she's
a little trouble maker. She offered to set up the
Link for Holly, our older sister, and apparently did it wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So Holly's stranded and freaking out.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like two minutes before I go on the oh, I
was like, did she do that on purpose?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Little Jen Jen?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Anyway, Sorry, didn't mean to go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So there is so much.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Going on in the news. I'm really excited. We've got
actually three guests today. One is Rose Poogleci, the House
Minority leader in Colorado, who's going to tell us the
latest greatest shenanigans going down at the Capitol at four
thirty seven today. And then we have Scott Shamblin joining
us at five oh six, who's a character. He does
those crazy, crazy videos of testimony down at the Capitol
(01:28):
kind of mocking the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Scott's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
He just won one of our Trailblazer Awards from Rocky
Mountain Voice at our Big Mountain Majesty gala. And then
we're going to have CJ Garbo on at five thirty seven.
CJ's an incredible writer for us at Rocky Mountain Voice,
and he did a great piece about election integrity and
what he thinks of our Colorado elections. I also did
one with Bill Lahman this week, so we have a
(01:51):
lot to talk about in the second hour about our
elections and how wonderful they are. There the gold standard
or are they fools Gold? I think they're fools Gold,
and I'm going to get some flack from that. A
lot of people still think they're perfect. And the more
I've learned since I ran for governor a few years ago,
the more I know they're not perfect. And we've got
to do everything we can to restore faith in our
(02:12):
elections here in Colorado so that people will actually show
up to vote in twenty twenty six, which we have
a problem with as Republicans here.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So that's what the agenda is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ryan, what was your big hit of your radio show today?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like what stood out to you? What are people talking about?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Well, on Fridays, we have a built in first hour
called The Right Side of Hollywood. We always have a
lot of fun with that with Deborah Flora, Award winning
filmmaker and her own right and Christian Toto, legendary local
film critic, and we talk about all things pop culture
and what's wrong with it and Jimmy Kimmel deciding that
he's going to criticize liberal wokes Golds when he is
(02:51):
one for why Democrats don't attract more voters because they
try to attract them with vinegar. So there was that,
and then of course our Friday fool of the Week,
and that was James Come for being a creepy, weird
old guy swifty.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So he won that award for today.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He so deserves that. Oh my gosh, he's such a weirdo.
That and the whole writing.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
In the stand. I walked up and there was this
thing in this shells.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
There were shells arranged in a formation that just so
happened to form eight six four seven.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That is nasty.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
That had it been eight six seven five three oh nine,
I would have some.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Respect for that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, so many young listeners aren't going to know what
that's on me, and that's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
We do, we do, And here we.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Go on our Friday eighties rant Kelly and Ryan like
we always end up.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
There, always end up sayespecially on Fridays, right Kelly, Yeah
very much?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, So I have to tell you guys about
a crazy interview I did this week. I got called
by a journalist who's writing a story for fifty two
eighty magazine.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I won't tell you his name.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He's been around a while in Colorado, and he wanted
to know about my retweeting of I am do you Better, Denver?
And why I would retweet that. I said, well, this
is not hard to answer. So you know, we all
feel like if you're going after them, you're going after us,
because do Better Denver is really about telling the stories
(04:13):
that the media won't tell in Colorado, and then it
goes back on us, people out in the public, to
tell the stories and share what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
He's like, well, the tweet do Better Denver sounds very.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Trumpy, and I was like, what do you mean? He goes,
sounds very harsh. I go, let's talk about harsh. What's
happening to our beautiful city of Denver. What's happening on
the streets there. What's not happening to criminals and drug
dealers on the streets.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's harsh.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But we had this long conversation and I'm this weird
specimen right that they want to examine, like this woman
Republican in Colorado who actually speaks her mind and isn't
afraid of the press, and so they just like picking
on me, really, and it's going to be curious to
see how the story turns out because I gave him
a pretty hard time about how left leaning the media
(05:02):
is here, and he said, I just don't see that.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I don't see that. I was like, wow, that's shocking
to me.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But Ryan, do you ever get called by other journalists
to give comment or do interviews?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Rarely?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Occasionally a television station want to pull something from, usually
an interview Dan Dan did, or a segment that he had,
and we're fine with that, you know, go ahead and
fair use it and attribute it, and we try to
do the same return. But now they haven't reached out
to me that I've been absent from a couple of
areas like that.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I've never been named on Rhino Watch.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Oh you're kidding.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
No, No, that's the right of passage that I am
missing everybody. I must not be a Rhino, I guess,
and the guys whoever does that little deal?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But have you been on there?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Oh fuck five times? And I'm not a rhino? You
know me, You're not at all?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Good lord, No, no, And in fact, I totally agree
with you, and I chime in and I echo what
you say about do better Denver. I literally compared this
to v for Vendetta when you had that fascistic regime
and people carrying water for it, including that television host
and then you have v himself leading a revolution against it.
And if do better Denver is going to be that
(06:16):
kind of a clarion call, then Heidi, I am do
better Denver.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, thank you, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We are all do better Denver if we care about
the truth about what's happening to our beautiful city.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And he asked me, well, you don't live in Denver
to you and I'm like, no, but I go there
all the time. It's our capital city. We all are Denver.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Like that's our shining city on the hillar it used
to be, and we're most of us are very sad
about what's happened down there. We went to the Savannah
Bananas Did you guys eat all go?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
How did you get tickets? That thing was like the
hottest ticket in town.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Jason did the lottery weir, Yeah, we actually got a
couple sets of tickets. So the whole family got to
split up and go and what a fun time that was.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But I gave the example like I would not let
my teenage daughter walk downtown to that Savannah's Bananas game
at one o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think it was at three alone.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No no, but my older daughter, Toy, Yeah, I totally
would have back then she's thirty. She just turned thirty.
Like that's the difference, right, Or if we're going to
a theater or going to a play. We went to
Mulan Rouge last week. I would not have let my
sixteen year old go down there alone, even with a friend,
to the play.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But Tory I would have and I did.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And it was a different world we lived in just
you know, however many years that fourteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So it makes me very sad.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It makes me sad that a lot of journalists don't
see what they're saying versus what's happening on the ground.
I said, don't you see the videos, don't you see
what's actually happening.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You can't argue with a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He said, well, things are getting better, Things are getting better,
the statistics are better. Mike Johnston tells us things are better.
I said, well, they're in lies. A problem. We don't
trust you, and we don't trust Mike Johnston, and we
don't trust Jared pull us many of us. And if
we don't trust you, then we have to verify with
our own eyes what's happening and that's where do Better
(08:03):
Denver comes in.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
They're saying, yes, this is real. Here's a video, this
is real.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
What you feel and see an experience when you go
to Denver is real. Like the crime, the homelessness, the addiction.
It's all there. It's real.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It's not made up in your imagination like trender or
Ragua oh.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
A feature of ones in manager nation. We heard that
one before.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And if the Denver Post, if local media was doing
its job, they must be the other guy, then there
wouldn't be a need for Do Better Denver to fill
in the gaps and fill in the void, because it's
very apparent, especially with this latest doc sing of the
people behind you Better Denver. And I've spoken to one
of those, Jillosa, that their interests lie in currying favor,
(08:44):
maintaining access and carrying water for the Johnson administration, for
the city pubas the powers that be, and not in
holding those in power accountable like true journalists should. The
Denver Post has an agenda and they just tipped their hand.
They just revealed it to all of us.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's that's exactly right, Ryan, and I think this wasn't
This point was made even more profoundly this week when
it was announced that Fox thirty one's owner was going
to buy its rival, Tegnet, the owner of Denver nine News,
and all the Democrats came out and condemned the proposed
consolidation of local TV news stations in Colorado, and Michael
(09:24):
Bennett even said it would greatly weaken Colorado's civic infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
What the heck?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, I think they're all worried that Kyle Clark
and their buddies at nine News aren't going to be
able to be there mouthpieces anymore. Yep, we'll see, We'll
see how that goes out. But I know we've got
a break coming up. I'm excited to talk more about
what's happening in Colorado, but also nationally with the Gisell
Maxwell tapes coming out. I've seen a little bit of
that today the Trump press conference, which maybe we can
(09:53):
come back with that clip Ryan and John Bolton his
house getting rated and Cracker Barrel. That's a really important
story I want to talk about. So let's go to break.
I'll see you afterwards. This is how you get all
filling in for Dan Kaplis. It's a great Friday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's going a good, big event that the Kays centered.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
They parked it in it. Well, you have a park
to play on the cumber fit, I may play.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, I see the money that these soccer players
being under side.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
We call it soccer, but I see the money that
these soccer players that make it. I make giant leve.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I'm a very good athlete. My son, my son is
a very good athlete, and he's a good soccer players.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
On the tall side for soccer.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
He's six nine. That's pretty tall.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But that's pretty tool the tall side. It's on the
tall side. But he's good. But I may, I may
put on shorts.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I'll extremely good.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
In short, see enjoyed the play. It's going to be
a lot of fun. It's gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well that was quite funny President Trump saying that he
might place in the FIFA World Cup.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I grew up playing soccer.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I love the sport, and one of my four kids
finally likes to play soccer. So it's it's an awesome sport.
But not a lot of people, not as many people
watch it. A lot of people play it in America.
I've never quite understood that, but it is what it is.
But we are getting a women's soccer team here in Colorad.
That's pretty exciting, correct, Are you excited?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Ryan?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Uh? Stoked? Beyond words?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
I do know there is a bar downtown Denver pre
plug here for them, but called the British Bulldog. I'm
not sure if you've been there. It's not too far
from coors Field, and I go there sometimes when the
NFL has their early morning games over in London or
across the Pond, and they start like seven am our time,
and people go there at that time because of the
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time difference in Britain to watch English Premier League soccer
and they're not their teams and they do their chants
and it's like you're walking into a literal British bar
and it's kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, it's bizarre that America like it's so like not
like the rest of the world that way.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
But whatever, Well, they all call it football and we've
got our own football and the rest of the world
doesn't necessarily understand our football, though we've been trying to
export it, like I just said, but I think we
just prefer our form of football.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Is your experience that girls are missing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Like this weird gene about knowing about penalties in football.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Like, I've watched football my whole life.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I love football, college football especially, and I still don't
get the penalties right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Like I can watch and go Jason, what was that? Like,
why did that happen?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He's like, how many years have you been watching this?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh? Well, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I think here's my primer for you or anybody else,
is because I've done play by play for football in
college in the past, where was the flag thrown and
the area on the field where it's thrown typically gives
you a hinter of clue as to what the penalty
might be. Like if a flag goes and the play
continues and it's in the offensive backfield, probably going to
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be holding against the offensive line if there's a flag immediately,
but they let the play go and it's at the
line of scrimmage, that's probably offside, but they're going to
let the play continue, so the offense isn't penalized for
something the defense did wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Ryan, I think you might need to teach some classes
or something.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I believe I could.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
We had a class like that when I was working
in arena football, which was really big in the late
nineties early two thousands called arena Football one oh one,
and it was very much like that. You kind of
went over the rules and people signed up and they
learned about the game.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I think if there was beer involved, a lot of
people would come.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I think if there was beer involved, I would be
there as an instructor drinking beer.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
All right, Well, I've got a couple texts. One of
them makes me want to drink. I don't know, this
is funny. HEII.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I voted for you for governor, but now I'm not
sure I could vote for you moving forward. Whilst I
think we should always strive to have the very best
election process, you seem like an election denier.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Uh oh, I know, are you?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I mean, I don't even know what that means anymore.
We know there are.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Issues with our election in Colorado. Jenni Griswold leaked the
BIOS passwords. The Arapahoe County cast vote record was changed
four years after the fact. The drop boxes are not secure.
There's Wi Fi remote access in the machines. After Jennick
Grosweld said there wasn't and we found I think there
were eighteen thousand missing undeliverable ballots in our analysis of
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the US Post Office and their relation to the twenty
twenty two elections. So there are a lot of gaps.
And I don't know why anyone's opposed to securing our
system better and doing everything we can to make it
more trustworthy, because a lot of folks do not trust
our elections now, and so I think it's all in
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what you mean by that, But no, I just want
people to be able to trust that our vote matters,
and right now I know that they don't from being
all over Colorado.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And talking to people. We even did some polling on
this back in.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
March, and sixty eight percent I believe of the people
who responded to the poll did not believe that elections
were completely trustworthy in Colorado.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Well, you just sayed some of the evidence as to why,
and I can only provide the perspective that I had
coming in as a Michigan resident, where most of us,
at least pre COVID voted at a precinct. It was
within walking distance, They had them scheduled throughout the state.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
It was a church, it was a school. You went
there in person, they.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Gave you a ballot, You filled out the ballot in private,
and you put the ballot in the machine and you
watch the number go from like sixty seven to sixty eight,
and that was the chain of custody. I don't like
all mail in voting. I think it sets up for fraud.
I'm not saying that there is fraud necessarily, but it
opens the door to it.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And we just saw in Michigan.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I don't know if you saw this video highlight, there
was a guy in Metro Detroit who was running for
office that was stuffing a ballot.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Box just like we have here and was caught on camera.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Now, if they can show me that they're catching people cheating, great,
I want to see that, but we should be provided
evidence of that, because you know what happens, somebody's got
to try it and maybe they catch it. We need
to see them catching it to rely on them enforcing that.
Otherwise your verification. I have questions about that. Who's doing it?
What's the margin for error there? There's too many questions,
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and more than there should be. If we just had
regular voting the way it used to be, and you
got to riddle me this, everybody out there. Democrats started
winning in large numbers almost exactly when we went to
all mail in voting.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Is that a coincidence? It's hard to believe that it is.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I agree, Ryan, And one of the key things that
we've found. I'm part of this group, a Colored Institute
for Fair Elections Coffee is the nickname, and these guys
do amazing research. And one of the things they've found,
a couple of them are CPA, is that there's no audits, like,
there's no outside audits that go on of our signature
verification process of the machines, of any of the systems.
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And that's really really concerning. So why are they so
afraid of that? And they even went to the legislature
and said, why don't you move the audit of the
elections from the Secretary of State's office to the audit office?
Just get it out of the secretary of State's office.
And they, of course all the Democrats balked and said.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
We trust our beloved Jenni griss World.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I think, oh, that's how I imagine they would sound in
my head.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I don't know, Ryan, that's how it comes across in
my head. But I yeah, we're going to talk more
about that with CJ. Garbo in the next hour. Coming
up after the break is Rose pig Lacy, who's our
House Minority leader.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
There's all kinds of shenanigans going down on the.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Capitol and in this special session, which is really about
just raising our taxes at the end of the day
and blaming Republicans for it. You talked about that on
your show with Jeff Crank, our congressman. What did he
have to say, that's not the case, right, Yeah, exactly.
All right, this is how you can all filling in
for Dan Caplis. We'll see you after the break with
Rose Piglacy.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Hello, Hello, Happy Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis with my
friend Ryan Schulink's been here all afternoon filling you up
with all kinds of good information, and I believe we
have miss Rose Piglacy on the line.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Rose. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Oh, thank you, it's so great to talk to you today.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You too, Rose.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I know there's lots of stuff going on down at
the Capitol. Tell me more about today and what's happening today.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Okay, So yesterday they killed all the Republican bells. Today
we're on the floor debating the Democrat bells, and it's
really really disappointing to see that most of the bills
that made it through committee yesterday, there's still some committees
going on right now actually cut any programs the Actually,
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if you look CSI actually did a study that I
was reading just a little bit ago, and that basically
they analyzed it and basically there's going to be a
billion dollars more in taxes that some of these Democrat
bills wind up moving forward on working families and small businesses,
most of them in direct violation of the tax Payer
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Bill rights voter approval requirements. So that's your Colorado Democrats.
They are not saving money, they are not dealing with
a budget crisis. They are increasing taxes on hard working
families and small businesses in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Congratulations, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, And of course they're blaming the Republicans for all
of this, especially nationally.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Are are federal.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Folks that did a huge tax cut and that's flowing
through it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's why they have to cut the budget. Correct.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah, so yes, there's saying HR one. Now, mind you
the budget forecast that was given to the Joint Budget
Committee that oversees you know, the budget for Colorado Bipartisan committee.
On June eighteenth, we're told that the projections for twenty
six twenty seven were that we were already going to
be seven hundred million in a deficit. As you all
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might remember, we were one point two billion last session,
the session that just passed, and we needed to find
money and make cuts. But that's what the Democrats did.
They put one time money towards fixing this issue, dipped
into reserves and they're like, wait, look at us. We
solved this problem. But the problem is when you continue
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to spend more than you bring in, then you're going
to have budget issues. So the same issues that we
had before will continue. And actually, I mean I've heard
some numbers from our Joint Budget Committee members that Senator
Barb Kirkreier and Representative Bricks Tagart that literally, you know,
too early to project. But none of these none of
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these budget issues are caused by HR one. HR one
doesn't even go into effect. Some of the tax cuts
come in twenty twenty six, some come in twenty twenty seven,
but basically they're tax cuts putting more money in the
pockets of Colorado, and your Colorado Democrats are taking it
out of your pockets and add asking you to add
a little bit more just to help state government grow.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Okay, Rose, So what is the What do we do
as citizens of Colorado who don't agree with what they're
doing down at the capitol.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
How can we help you fight this battle?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
So I think committees are going, but I think they're
almost done. Thank you to everybody who showed up yesterday
to testify on bills. I know we all really appreciated
the support. I think reaching out to legislators and you
can do it on both sides of the aisle. I
get these emails too, and I always want to say, yep,
I'm with you. But I think the more outreach to
Colorado Democrats saying wait, don't take my money. That you
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know families across Colorado are struggling. How do you know,
and Ryan, if he's still on with you, you know
that I've traveled the state, You've traveled the state. We've
all traveled the state, and we've talked to people in
these communities who are struggling. Our seniors who were saying
I can't afford to live in Colorado anymore. And this
is my home. Single moms and dads who are like
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I don't know if I can raise my kids here
in Colorado anymore. And so what are we doing to
help them? This special session does nothing to help them,
but just does everything to help grow government.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, thanks, Rosea.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I read a stat about the size of the budget,
and I think when I was running for governor a
couple of years ago, it had already doubled in the
last decade. But where are we out on the budget?
Is it like forty six billion dollars now for the
state budget?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes? All right?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So, and with that budget has grown the bureaucracy, right,
the number of administrators bureaucrats that run our government, like
those side of things, that's grown exponentially.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Correct, Yes, I.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Mean I don't have that number off the top of
my head, but I know we have grown and increased
full time employees within that organization. When a lot of
small businesses are just struggling to keep their doors open, right,
and then with these new tax burdens, we're going to
be losing thousands of jobs in Colorado. Why would people
start businesses or continue to have businesses in Colorado? Why
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would businesses move to Colorado? How are we going to
become a more business friendly state and employ more people
if we continue to increase the tax burdens on our
businesses and especially our small businesses.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well and rose to make a great point, And we
just got a couple of text messages that ask this
questions Heidi, giving you and your husband's experience in starting businesses,
do you think you or your husband would start a
business now in Denver or in Colorado with the current taxes,
minimum wages, and regulatory burdens. And No, I started can't
bow all the first location in two thousand. It was
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a completely different environment. Then we started franchising. With every
franchise location that opened in Colorado, it got harder and
harder and harder to get it open and rent it
because of the taxes, the requirements, the regulatory burdens.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And then one other.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Text came in saying the fact that the Colorada Democrats
are primarily looking at increasing taxes instead of reducing spending
tells you everything you need to know about them. The
better way to fix the budget gap for Colorado would
be to reduce spending. But no Democrats do not want
to cut spending. They would rather tax businesses, which will
likely close some of them or drive them out of Colorado.
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Absolutely criminal for them to borrow from the Unclaimed Property frond. Wrong, wrong, wrong,
Alexis says, any words on that.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yes, there is a bill coming through it. We haven't
seen it yet. We thought in committee, I believe, but
not on the hot floor. Or it could be starting
in the Senate. I know it went through committee yesterday.
I actually started in the Senate, so it should be
coming over today. But yeah, I mean the unclaimed property
tax then, I know were unclean property fund.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I know.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
A lot of people look at that as you know,
being able to borrow against it. I know that, you know,
we've had some issues one way or the other. But
I think more importantly, being able to actually deliver real
solutions for Colorado's is what is not happening during this
special session. It's really disappointing. I mean, if you look
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at the Governor's call. If I don't know, if you
were Governor Heidi and you had you were facing you know,
seven hundreds who have billion dollars in a deficit, you
would be like, hey, why don't we all come to
the table and figure out how we cut right, how
do we look at some programs and find efficiencies in government.
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But the call was so specific, right, so specific that
basically the Democrats already knew what builds this they were
going to push through. They didn't want bipartisan support. It
didn't go through the Joint Budget Committee, which is typically
when you have a budget shortfall how you would address it.
They're using this, and the Speaker even said in an
Executive Committee meeting at the end of July, she basically said, well,
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we can't let a good crisis go to waste. So
I would say the theme of this special session is
the Democrats are not letting a good crisis go to waste.
But they're really hurting Colorado families and hard work in
Colorados from across the state.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And gosh, Rose, I love how they're having toxic town
halls across Colorado to commiserate and talk basically push their
talking points out to the grassroots, their grassroots, and.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
It's just such a bunch of bunk.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I hope that our party can do the same and
start to call out these folks in a very organized way.
I know Britta is doing her best to try and
get through the messaging problem we have here in Colorado,
which is really the liberal media that tells one side
of the story.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Let's just wrap up by give me your take on.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This whole nine News acquisition with Tegna as a conservative
woman or a Republican elected official who's a woman, and
we've been on the wrong side of nine new Is
in several cases.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
What are your take? What's your take on that?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I probably get a hold on my take. You know,
obviously I support businesses and the ability for them to
acquire other businesses. It's the free market. So but I
think the really important thing is making sure that we
even outside of media, that we all are able to
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get our message out to our grassroots. I mean, what
makes me so hopeful is we were able to defeat
Proposition HH. You know, as Senator Barb Kirkmeyer and I
led the statewide campaign against it. We were able to
beat the governor and the Democrats, and they were trying
to take the tax Parabilla rights three funds that would
be sixty forty And it was because we educated our
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grassroots people and got them outside of the echo chamber
and into our communities, and so I think we need
to continue to do that through this special session and
win the messaging war on the ground with our friends
and neighbors who maybe aren't listening today but need to
understand what Colorado Democrats are doing to them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I agree, Rose, and that's why we started a Rocky
Mountain Voice to give a different perspective and hopefully get
the truth about what's happening to Colorado out to the
massive voters that don't hear that side of the story.
So thanks so much for joining us, Rose. We're going
to take a break. This is Hidi Ganal filling in
for Dan Caples. We appreciate Rose's take what's happening at
the Capitol and we'll talk more afterwards.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And now back to the Dankaplis Show podcast. Hello.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Hello, it's Friday afternoon. Ready for the weekend. This is
Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis. What a week
it's been in Colorado. I am part of a group
Ryan that's hosting a house to Shook thirty and twenty
three over in Lakewood, a fun event on August twenty six,
and we were just going to get people together at
a brewery, have some fun and get more people involved, engaged,
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ready for the elections coming up, and this poor brewery
got attacked, vilified by the left. What Oh yes, there
were Reddit threads, there were death threats, there were text
messages to.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
The owners, like the employees were.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Everybody was freaked out and just vicious, and so we
ended up having to move the event. No, yeah, I know,
it's you know, you always hate to cave.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
When you give into the mob, you invite more of it.
I am, That's what I would tell them. This is
not going to go away.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
The bullies know they can win.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I agree, and they just terrified this poor family business owner.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That's horrible.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So we made the decision to move the event because
we didn't want them to feel that anymore. So it
was a it was kind of a joint decision, but
we moved it and it's at a Foothills restaurant.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It's going to be huge, and I would love for
everybody to sign up and get some tickets and come
along and support us and support the idea that this
is not cancelable, Like you can't just cancel half the
state of Colorado who believes something different than you do, right,
So you.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Don't see there are plenty of leftist organizations that will
schedule an event like this, and you never see the
so called radical right going to Reddit putting up threats,
you know, putting that out on social media that we
just don't do that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
No, and this has happened to I think it's called
drip coffee.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Now, really condemn it if they.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Did, right, and they I mean a lot of these
places host both sides.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's not like they pick a side.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Right, and and the speakers who are speaking at this
event are not like super controversial. It was pretty low key.
So anyway, that happened. Then this coffee shop got attacked.
Then another brewery in Colorado Springs, different brewery got attacked.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Remember that, so all in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think this group Indivisible is very organized, and they're
very loud, and they're scaring a lot of people in
Colorado or to speak out or to strong, stand strong,
or to stay firm and just generally being very active.
And I think it's part of this toxic town hall
thing that the Democrats are doing.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But it's very unfortunate.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
And when you have horrible ideas, which they do, all
that's left for you as a recourse is to tear
down the other side, and that's what they're resorting to.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's right, that's right, and why not just argue your
make your case for your arguments. Right, And we actually
invited the people, a lot of the people who are
very upset about this come come to the event and
we'll talk and we'll debate. Wab a beer and we'll
get together and just discuss, well.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
You're not worthy of associating with you are That's how
they view opposition, that it's like a it's a right
and wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's a good and evil thing.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
If we support Trump, therefore we are nazised under his
mind spell or what I mean. That's literally how they
think it's. It's warped, it's demented. It's ridiculous. So what
is the venue going to be Tuesday?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, I'm not going to say the vin your guys,
I don't I don't want people shouldn't have said that.
I don't want them to shore.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
But the how are we gonna go?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, you're gonna want to You're gonna.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Go on my Twitter and there's a sign up link
and they'll tell you where it is and what it is.
And all the things. But it's yeah, it's next Tuesday.
It's gonna be a lot of fun. It's almost sold out,
so it might be sold out by now, but we'll
try and make room for as many people as posts.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
And I'm a different kind of cat.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
But if I ran a bar and I know that
Jason runs you know GQ, and I got that kind
of threat, I go, you know what, I'm doubling down
on this, and you're not going to bully me. You're
not gonna intimidate me, you're not going to push me.
You try any crap, come at me, bro, and I'm
gonna get you know, Sheriff Weekly or Sheriff Reams or
somebody like that, and we're just not gonna You stand
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up to that bully and you let them know that
you will not be budged, and they're gonna give up
and they're gonna walk and slither away.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Well that's what we did with the Mountain Majesty Galloy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We had that out in Golden at one of the
big hotels, and the hotel was getting all the threats
and canceled and bad reviews, and they stood strong. I
was really proud of that good and we had, I
having a lot of security. The protest that was supposed
to happen, it was puny. It didn't turn into much,
but boy did they make a big fuss for a while.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And Eric Trump was so great. He was an amazing speaker.
He loves Colorado.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
He grew up coming skiing here with his mom, who
was a champion skier.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
They'd come once a year, probably to Aspen, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
But he was.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Fantastic about it, and he just said, you know, Colorado
and its roots, who it really is is conservative.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's like the wild wild West.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The New Frontier, the edgy entrepreneurial spirit. And he's like,
I really, I really want to focus on taking it back.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
So I do think we've got.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That streak in our state and we have to tap
into that, and we have to stand strong as conservatives.
We can't cave to your point, and we have to
have to have to push back.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
On this stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So I know a lot of people have been showing
up at these town halls. If you did go and
you're listening right now and want to call in, you
know later in the show, I'd love to hear your
take on how it was.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
The one in Loane Tree.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I heard Bob Marshall, of course, the House Rep down there,
who's like the lone Democrat House Rep in Highland's ranch. Oh,
he's got the worst views, like the worst public policy views.
And he was there, and there were a lot of
conservatives there pushing back, and I think we've got to
do more of that, not in a mean spirited way,
(34:18):
just go show up and ask questions and call them
out and ask them why they believe certain things are
working when they don't when it comes to public policy.
You heard Rose talking about that. So we're going to
have some fun after the break. We're going to talk
to Scott Shamblin, who's always so funny. He has the
best takes on what happens at the Capitol. This is
how you can all filling in for Dan Kaplis. Will
(34:39):
see you after the break.
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