August 22, 2025 • 33 mins
Scott Shamblin, executive director for Colorado Right to Life, joins Heidi Ganahl (in for Dan) after attending the state capitol all day on Friday for the special session called by Governor Jared Polis. CJ Garbo, special contributor for Rocky Mountain Voice, calls in with thoughts on election integrity - and concerns therein - in Colorado's vote-by-mail balloting process.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, hello, welcome to the Dankplas Show. This is Heidiganal
filling in. It's a great Friday afternoon. It's going to
be a beautiful weekend. Ryan, Is there any football going
on this weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
There is, It's week zero they call it.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And there are several games on Saturday, I think five
D one level games, f FBS games. Colorado not in
action yet.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No next Friday night right again in Georgia Tech go buffs.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And you can hear it right here on six point
thirty k Nice in Denver and Denver. And I'm glad
you brought that up, because we will still have the
Dan Capliss Show for our affiliates in Fort Collins and
Pueblo and local listeners here in Denver that would like
to hear the show. You want to go online to
our app and that's through the iHeartRadio interface.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Nice. That sounds a little complicated, but.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh no, no, it's just a balload the app. You click,
you go, you listen.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Okay, got it, you'll have to show me. All right,
we've got Scott Chamblin. I'm gonna throw the football over
to him. No pun intendant and Scott, I'd love to
hear your take on what's happening down at the Capitol.
Welcome to the show. Thank you, Heidi.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
You know I've been at the Capitol all day today,
all day yesterday and it's been pretty awful.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Ah, I'm sorry, what's what's the highlight of the day,
the horrible highlight of the day.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Well, so I'm the exactive director of Colorado Right to
Life and so we've been watching all the related bills
that you would think a right to life organization would
be watching. And so the big one is Senate bill too.
That's SB twenty five B hyphen there there two, which
is basically giving the middle finger to the big beautiful bill.
(02:04):
And instead of if you're unfamiliar to the Big beautiful bill,
it repealed all the funding for playing parenthoods and similar organizations.
And so what this bill does sent a bill too,
it spends more of the taxpayers dollars to fill the
funding gap that was created by the big beautiful bill
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for playing Parenthood.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, Scott, how does that? How does that work when
they've got to cut a billion dollars out of the budget,
they're adding money to the budget.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Well, I think it works the same way as if
let's say your family is also running at a budget deficit,
and you get a credit card and then max out
the credit card by going to Disney World.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, okay, got it, got it. So tell me some
have there been any funny stories down there? You're so
good at using humor to push back on these guys.
What's been a comical moment from the day that stands out?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
A comical moment? That's a good question. Done too much
comical stuff today? Though, the debate on cinnabil too during
committee that is with witnesses and the proponents and whatnot,
has been does Plan Parenthood provide primary care? I said
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it did not because they don't actually have any like
primary care doctors there. They have ob g i n's
and they have urns. And Representative write In decided to
on record question the Plan parent had lobbyists and asked
mister Shamblin. Uh said that obgy ns are not doctors.
(03:56):
Can you speak to that? So that was a little
bit comical to how insane it is that she would
twist my words like that.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's what they do, That's what the Democrats do all
day long. And someone who hasn't been twisting his words,
which as an influencer, which you are, you're great on
social media. It's been really fun to watch. Is Spencer
Pratt pushing back on Gavin Newsom? Now, I don't know
if people everybody knows who Spencer Pratt is. You may
have heard of Heidi Montag. Spencer and Heidi were the
stars of the show. I think it was called Laguna
(04:29):
Hills or The Hills back in the day, and we're
reality stars and they were villains and Spencer's family and
his house, him and Heidy's house, and Spencer's mom and
dad's house. I believe we're both burned down in the
Pacific Palisades fire. And actually Heidi contegs from Crested Butte, Colorado.
So he's been here a couple of times. I've met him,
(04:49):
We've had barbecue with him, and he's actually a really
nice guy. But he has taken Gavin Newsom to task
on social media. Have you been watching that.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I have an unfortunate I've been spending the last two
or yeah, about one two weeks focusing on special Session. Well,
you got to go check it out on social media.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's hilarious and Gavin Newsom's actually responding. And I just
heard that Newsom hired like this whole team of young
social media influencers to help him combat Trump and figure
out how to push back and fight back against him
on social media, which is going to be hysterical to
play out and watch what happens. I do you think
Gavin Newsom's running for president?
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I think he's propping himself up for it, going on
all the podcasts like Trump did. And you know, if
he does, I'd love to run a social media I
think it would be the funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Ever, how about you run social media for Polus for president.
I hear he's got that on the agenda, so that
would be quite entertaining.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
You know, I tried to get into the Senate Bill
three signing last session or earlier this year, and for
some reason I wasn't on the invite list. So I
don't think he he likes me that much.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Darn darn Scott. How can people follow you and follow along?
And are you doing your video testimony sessions coming up
in this next legislative session? Are you doing any in
the special session?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So I am now a lobbyist as I run Colorado
Right to Life, and so I I do a little
trying to be a tiny bit more professional, and I'll
still for a little bit of it. Then personally, you
can watch me on X at Scott P. Schamblin and
then for updates on Senate Bill two, you should follow
(06:41):
Colorado RTL. That's at Colorado RTL RTL like really anywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Else Roger Tom like Larry Ye, Right to Life got.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And Senate Bill two passed the Senate on third reading
this morning. Then they rammed it into House Committee same day,
a couple hours later with no alert to the people.
And then it just passed that about an hour ago.
And we're expecting it and might hit the House floor
(07:13):
for second reading tonight. We haven't left yet. We're going
to be here all night.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well you're also going to be with me next Tuesday night.
I believe it is at our uncanceled uncanceled event over
in Jefferson County. And I was telling Ryan earlier this
story about what happened with having to move the party,
and it's almost sold out now. It turned out to
be a blessing and lots and lots of people are
going to show up to support House District thirty and
(07:41):
twenty three over there Titian and Lindsay and have a
really really good time, lots of prizes, fun events. I
think we need to do more of this in Colorado
and pushback and stay strong and show up where they
don't want us to show up. Did you go to
any of the toxic town halls?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I haven't had a chance. I've been. I was at
an event out on the Western Slope in Delta County
and then I've had a few other events, but I'd
like to.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, I think I think we're going to have a
good time Tuesday night and show people that Republicans don't
just go away. We're all about having fun and making
it making it cool again to be conservative in Colorado
and growing out our network across the state. And part
of that is having events and standing strong when we
get when they try and cancel us. Right, and lots
(08:29):
of restaurants and businesses are getting attacked right now from
the left, and I think people are starting to get
some you know, a real strong spine and starting to say,
you know what, no more, We're not going to be bullied.
And there's you know, a lot a lot of people
in this state. Probably about if you add the unaffiliateds
that typically vote Republican and the Republicans registered Republicans, we've
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probably got a good one and a half million people
in this state that can't be canceled. I hope. But
it's been great talking to you, Scott. Good luck down
at the capitol. I hope you can stop this bill
from going through. And thank you for the work you
do at Color to write to Life as well.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Thank you, Heidi. We'll talk Sam.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So, guys, Scott's down at the capitol. Rose is down
at the Capitol. I don't know how long this special
session is going to last, Ryan, if you have any
insight into that, but or how many bills they're going
to try and get through. It seems like a lot
of these things don't really tie to the actual budget
down there, but apparently they cram that in however they can.
But what's have you heard? How long this is going
(09:31):
to happen?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
For?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
No I've been reaching out to the various members of
leadership there, including Representative ty Winter, who's the assistant minority leader,
along with Rose Paglacias, the minority leader of the Republicans
in the House. And it's basically what Rose was talking
about earlier. Every Republican sponsored bill was shot down. There's
no surprise there. But it's just interesting to me to
have her describe exactly what the Democrats are trying to do.
(09:55):
It is bold, it is audacious. It is terrifying that
they were trying to do these end arounds tabor, you know,
trying to inflict pain and taxing us somehow with fees,
you know, not having to pass it through a ballot measure.
And I don't know how they're going to arrive at
balancing the budget without cutting some programs. And it sounds
(10:16):
like Rose said the Democrats were not open to cutting
anything from the budget, not one thing, right. Is that
what I heard correctly?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I think that's what you heard correct and that that's
not gonna work. It doesn't work well with your family budget.
It's not going to work well with the state budget either.
So I know we've got a head to break. I
always have so much fun bantering with you, Ryan, and
we've got it.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Guise.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
We've got a lot going on in this stay good,
bad ugly. But this is Heidi Ganal. I'm filling in
for Dan Kaplis. We'll be right back to talk more
about what's happening in Colorado politics.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Hello, this is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis
on a beautiful Friday afternoon. We've got a fun weekend ahead.
I want to hear what your plans are. Pop me
a text or give me a call. The call line
is three O three seven one three eight two five five.
Did I get that right, Ryan?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It nailed it?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh few, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Getting older memory real bent out of shape about the
toll free number, which he's right, it's antiquated. We don't
need toll free anymore. Right, everything's local or the same price.
So you didn't want to do the eight five to
five anymore? He thought three o three was the way
to go. But then I'm telling him, Look, not everybody
who listens to this program, because it is syndicated throughout
the front range is three oh three, so they might
(11:31):
have know that point of reference either. But it is
three O three seven one three A two.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Five five, and tell me the text line. Tell everybody
the text line. And I want everybody to text me
their thoughts about what's happening in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Five seven seven three nine and start it dan da
N and then say whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well kind of if it's profane.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
We can't read it on the airwell to edit it,
so don't give us extra work to do.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Keep it clean, and don't make me laugh out loud
if I look at that. What do you have planned
this weekend?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
What question?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Might be com miserating with my buddy Christian Tode at
a beer gardener too.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
That's what I was asking about Tuesday and you said beer.
I said where, and that's all that you needed to do.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I will slip you the address Friday.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Please do, please do, and I'll make sure and make
an appearance.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, we're gonna have Rob whittwere as a speaker who
wrote the Blueprints. Yeah, okay, that's the book about the
four billionaires that took over Colorado, including one Jared Polis
and boy did they do a number on this state
over the last two decades. And then Lindsay Dotco, who's
with Jeff co kids first, who you know very well,
and myself. It's going to be a great time. But
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the point of that whole conversation is stand strong, don't
back down from these bullies, these leftist bullies, and what's
happening at the capitol. Educate your family, your friends, your
neighbors on what's really going on and these bills they're
passing and what they're doing to your pocketbook. Don't let
them get away with these fluffy talking points that it's
all President Trump's fault because of the tax cuts you
(13:00):
put through. That's ridiculous. That's just ridiculous that they're blaming
the budget hole on tax cuts. More money in our
pockets rather than their pocket Again.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
How does a state budget become dependent on whatever the
federal government is doing. It's a state budget. Do your
own budget. Whatever comes federally, that's gravy. You don't count
on that as part of your own state budget. It's
the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, and Ryan, you left an interesting sheet of paper
in front of me of the memo that was shared
with Playbook DC, featuring a new blacklist of words Dems
shouldn't use because they don't want to get canceled, right,
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
think they're trying to see more moderate, less crazy, right,
that's crazy. So among the blacklisted terms, don't use the
(13:50):
word privilege. It's just don't talk about violence as an
environmental violence because climate change kind of went away, didn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I was I just think of a Nick Swardson and
his roller skating character and Reno nine one one just exaggerated.
I know you weren't murdered, Like it's environmental violence.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh my god, violence is violence. It's so nuts.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Or they say like silence is violent.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No, it's not silence not violence. Is that really a thing?
I I don't know. Okay, don't stay triggering. That's my
favorite thing.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I am triggered by that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Me too, Me too, I'm triggered by that. Don't talk
about microaggressions anyway, that's.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
One of my least favorite You know what, we it's
gen xers growing up on the playground in elementary school
through middle school through high school.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We took a lot of macro aggressions, okay, and we
got through it. Okay, microaggressions own that microaggression.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
The shut up.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Okay, this is a rude question to ask on air,
But what you would you graduate from high school?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Ninety two?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Night?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh you're a pop Kelly. It's up to you if
you want to say, are you an eighties? Nineties? Thousands kids?
Speaker 8 (14:58):
What I graduate? I did in ninety.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh I'm an old, old stinker. I graduated in eighty four.
Well that's great from in monument at Lewis Palmer High School.
And you know, I love how the eighties nostalgia's coming back.
And once you watch these videos, right, they hit your
stream all day long. But like last night at one
and the more, I couldn't sleep, and all of a sudden,
it's like, don't you miss the eighties? Wasn't the eighties?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Grade?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
This is the time to be alive? Was the eighties?
I'm like, yeah, you know it was pretty cool? But
what was like if you had to go back to
a certain set of years, what would you go back to?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Well, nineteen eighty five, that's easy. Why I had an
undefeated Little League midget level baseball season this great summer.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I remember it well. I was in fifth grade.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
That's how I remember what grade I was in what
year in the eighties was it eighty five? I was
in fifth grade, so it matches the year, and there's
great music on MTV. Tigers had just won the World
Series the year before. It was it was a good
time in.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
My life, Kelly, what about you?
Speaker 8 (15:57):
Well, I got to tell you. So in eighty four,
growing up in Los Angeles, we had the Olympics and
I had just kind of made the switch from gymnastics
to diving, and I actually was able to go and
see Greg lugainis all of the divers, and I actually
got a chance to meet him because he was very
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gracious with his time. So that's one thing. But also
the year eighty four I got to go with Ryan
on this MTV was huge and you just kind of
were getting into the cable channels. So yeah, you didn't
only have you know, CBS, NBC and ABC and you
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know maybe a Fox affiliate or well there was WB.
We had something called the W maybe, So I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Know, I don't mess with her story, right, but eighty
four was great. So well, that was the year I
graduated in high school. That was awesome. And I had
a sixty six Mustang that was my baby. I loved
that car and we used to cruise Nevada Avenue in car.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It could have been a character on the Breakfast Club.
You were the same major as those students.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I could have I could have been. I loved all
those movies. What was his name, John that did use?
Oh did he do Breakfast Club?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
He directed it?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And Sixteen Candles and Weird Science and all those amazing shows.
And then Tom Cruise had Top Gun come out that year, I.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Believe, Yeah, well eighty six, Oh that was eighty all
in that mid eighties realm there.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, it was so fun and we just I mean,
things were so basic in monument. We just did stuff
like go out in the middle of a field and
have a kid love it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Let's go do that right now?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay, beer beer, beer, more beer. That's the theme of
the show. This is hiding and all fulling in for
Dan Kaplis. We'll be back after the break to talk
elections with CJ.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Carbo.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Hey, no, hno, it's Heidiganal filling in for Dan Kaplis.
We were having some fun talking about the eighties beforehand.
Great song, right and how do you come up with
this stuff so quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It's just there.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
The eighties were awesome, but we're not in the eighties anymore.
That's when Republicans ruled Colorado and Reagan was president. Heck, yeah,
that was a crazy cool time. I have a friend
of mine on now as my guest, CJ Garbo. CJ,
Welcome to the show. You are an incredible writer and
a great on the ground source of what's happening politically
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in Colorado. And you wrote a piece that really got
my attention in Rocky Mountain Voice about election integrity, what's
happening with our elections and a lot of people are
getting more and more comfortable speaking out about this issue.
Why did you write this piece?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Thanks Heidi, thanks for having me. Glad to be here.
And I think you get the nail on the head.
I think that President Trump's leadership and I think that
he's probably the foremost authority having experienced the very unusual
election anomalies that have never occurred. I don't think there's
any historical precedent for all the things that happened. And
he's leading, and he's not leading from a place of
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I believe political bias or any animus. I think he
is genuinely interested in making sure that elections are fully transparent,
that the American people can have faith and trust in
our election systems, regardless of who's elected or what political
party is running, and ultimately gets the vote of the people.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So CJ. Why does the ruling class panic so much
every time we talk about election reform if the system
is supposedly so secure, especially in Colorado? They do this.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Well, I think because the evidence and reasonable suspicion says otherwise.
You look at the twenty election, the four am vote spikes,
the lockout pole watchers, the hidden suitcases of balance, the
statistical anomalies that defy mathematical probability. These are not secure.
These are cover ups, and the media repeats the lie
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to protect the regime, not the people. When truth is
suppressed and obvious fraud is ignored, this system is broken,
and so the Republican Party right now, we're the only
force willing to call it out, and we're the only
ones are willing to fight to restore this integrity. I
think that that's exactly why the people in power are
shaken by.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
This well, and the Democrats love to say is in
questioning elections dangerous because it undermines faith in democracy. And
I would argue the opposite, What say you on that front.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
Completely of truth? You know, blind obedience to a corrupt
system is what destroys democracy. A true republic depends on accountability, verification,
or transparency. If you can't question anything, you can't question
how the mostes are countered, or who controls the process,
then we don't have democracy. By the very definition of that,
you have tyranny. The skies to these elections, Republicans are
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not un reminding democracy. They're they're trying to defend it.
And I think that's exactly why they're trying to twist
and kind of or heard those terms. They're saying that
what every honest American knows deep down, we have been
cheated and it must end.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I think I talk a lot about fairness and
how I believe Americans want fairness above everything else. Like
I think that's why Trump won resoundingly in the Sasas election.
They saw what was happening to him, the attacks on him,
the assassination attempt, and said this is enough, like stop this,
stop this, stop doing this. It needs to be fair.
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We need to have fair elections and I think that's
where we're at right now. But how serious do you
think Trump's team around him, Pam BONDI Cash Pttel those
guys are about making people held accountable, or holding people
accountable for the things they've done, if there were things
done in the last elections.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
I think they're very serious, and I think that the
average voter or the average republic can probably sees what
they're doing as very restrained, and I think that's a misread.
I think what they're doing is that they are being
very diligent to make sure that they have all their
t's crossed, all the i's dotted, so that when prosecutorial
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action comes, and should accountability come with using the DJ
and it's going to get to the level of arrests
and charges, they want to make sure that they can
speak with full authority and full transparency and have a
full record of account of everything that happened, and why
they're doing this and why it's not politically loaded, why
it's motivated by justice and not partisan politics.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So CJ. I know you talk a little bit about
this in your article, but what do you think the
solution is. Is it one day voting, is it paper ballance,
what's your take on what the solution is to clean
this up.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
I think it's kind of a pulling multiple levers. I
do think it involves going back to how voting was
done and how we've knew it's been secure prior to
same day voter registration, prior to mail in ballots. I
think that we have traded security for convenience. I think
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that if we go back to a system that we
knew was transparent, that we knew had great auditibility, and
then see how the results pan out, I think that
that's probably the best way to start. And I think
that President Trump is absolutely added in the right directions
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with at least talking about having this discussion well.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And unfortunately, I don't think we live in a state
where Jenna Griswold is the Secretary of State, Phil Wiser
is the attorney general and Jared Poulos is the governor
are going to cooperate if he asked them to do
things differently. But that's a battle we've got to take
on as conservatives in this state or anyone who cares
about election integrity. And one thing I've realized since my election,
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and we did a lot of audit work and research afterwards,
because there were some anomalies that were really odd in
Colorado in that twenty two election, like the twenty election,
and one of the things we realized was the county
commissioners have a lot of power over how our elections
are played out because they hire and fire the county attorneys,
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and they also work very closely with the county clerks.
And a lot of county clerks in this state are
terrified because of what happened to Tina peter Is, because
of the rhetoric coming out of the Secretary of State's office.
And so sixty percent of our county commissioners in Colorado,
I think I've got that number right. It's about that
number are conservative, believe it or not, our registered Republicans.
And if the county commissioners would start to take a
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stand and ask their county clerks and their county attorneys
to do some research, do some auditing, do some things
that might make Jenna Griswold uncomfortable, but might restore trust
in their constituents, I think we could make some progress.
So I wrote an article last week about an effort
by Colorado Institute for Fair Elections Coffee, the group I
talked about earlier in the show, they put out a
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letter to all sixty four county clerks asking them for
a meeting and saying, hey, let's just talk about some
issues like inaccurate voter rolls or audits not fully compliant
with generally accepted government standards, or restricted public access to
election records, or how ballots are tracked inside election offices
but once they leave the office the chain of custody breaks,
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and finally inadequate dropbox video surveillance. They sent letters, certified
letters to sixty four county clerks. They got two responses.
Two responses Wow. One from Lake County, which was not
a friendly response at all, basically said go jump in
a lake, no pun intended. The other one was from
El Paso County Clerk Steve Schleiker, who was actually incredibly
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gracious and wrote a four page response to our request
because I helped them with this and actually ended up
meeting with us for a couple hours, and I wrote
about the meeting Bill Lahman and I did, and he
is making some good changes. Of course, we don't agree
on everything, and I'm not sure it's the end all
bl to fixing what happens in the trust Department with
our voters. But your piece and my piece together might
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really inform people in Colorado on Rockymount Voice dot com
what's happening with our elections and how they can make
a difference by going and speaking up of their county
commissioner meetings or talking to their clerks or even the
county attorney in that case, because it really does matter
at the local level when it comes to fixing our elections.
What do you think about that approach.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
I love the approach, especially when you're making it about
having everybody come forward with a discussion, because I don't
think there's anything that's ever happened bad or came up
poorly from discussion. I think that's a start of transparency.
I think it shows good faith, and I think that
if this was the gold standard of the most secure
election in history, I think that the people that ran
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it should be proud of that and be willing to
give a full record of account and demonstrate and prove it.
I mean me personally, if I did something very very
well and I had people doubting it, my behavior would
be eager to disprove it. I would not be shutting
people down. I would not be shutting down conversations. In fact,
I would be probably hyper vigilant with my transparency for
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no other reason, to demonstrate beyond all reasonable doubt that
what I'm saying is true, what I'm saying is accurate.
Here's why I believe what I believe, and let me
demonstrate it to you in a way that convinces you,
because I would not feel good people going out there
believing a lie, and I would not believe people just
to believe me, just to take my word for it,
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or with some rhetoric just spouting out most secure election
and history, well, most secure election in history doesn't answer
the questions that Americans what they saw and have every
right to question and have every right to doubt. This
takes a conversation, and this takes getting down to the
nitty gritty details. And I think that how you're approaching
it is exactly the first steps to what I would
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call meta and this is the medicine that would restore
trust in our election process.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, thank you, CJ. We're in agreement. I think Ryan
talked about the same approach earlier on the show. So
I am really excited to have you on the show
and would love to have you on again when I'm hosting.
I think you have such a great insight into Colorado.
So thank you. And this is Heigan All filling in
for Dan Kaplis. We'll be back after the break to
wrap up with our last segment.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
They Senator wiener I got an idea. Wants to add
more density to the Palisies because that's what we need.
We need ninety five story buildings in watts that were
former single family homes.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
That's good.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Let's have more school buses fill with kids stuck in
gridlock traffic trying to evacuate a natural disaster that was preventable.
That you and all your politician friends don't care if
a town birds out because then you get to have
your vision to rebuild it. In your sick and twists
a little fantasies. It's not time to play legos with
our community.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (29:01):
Only thing you should be doing is worrying about your
state park fuel that surrounds towns, that burn towns down.
Make sure waters in the reservoirs so the helicopters can
get the water and put it on the fires. That
you guys don't even put out in your state parks
from six days earlier. That's what you should focus on.
See all these school buses. We don't need more density
in the Palisades, So you better take your little SB
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seventy nine back in the trash with SB nine and
stop playing with the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I forgot to say, thank you. Oh this is hiding.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
If filling in for Dan Kaplis and Ryan, that's our
buddy Spencer Pratt, who had on their BINGO card that
Spencer and Heidi would be holding the governor of California
accountable and the mayor of LA.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's awesome.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
We need we need.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
More Spencers out there right now, speaking up being uncancellable. Now,
you and I were pretty mouthy. Maybe somewhere hiding right,
I know, but I just wanted to play that clip.
So if you want to watch some fun fire going on,
watch Spencer on TikTok or Twitter. Give Gavin Newsom a
hard time. He might just prevent him from being our
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next president. So go Spencer. All right, we got a
couple of callers. I'd like to go to Waylan and
Colorada Springs. Who has a question for me? Hi Whalan,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Hey Hei, do you thank you for taking my call?
You know it's awesome. You guys mentioned all these great
movies and stuff, but nobody mentioned war Games, which is
all about hacking into Nora's computers. Oh, some of that
was filmed here in the case your park in downtown
Colorado Springs and just outside of chau where Nord is really.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh my gosh, Okay, we got to go back and
watch it.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
You know, I grew up. I graduated in nineteen ninety one.
I we Colorado Springs since seventy five. I grew up
in the era where the word micro and aggressions weren't
even in the same paragraph, much less smashed together into
one word. And also, who do you run from again?
Because it would be a great privilege to vote for
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you again?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh, thank you, Whalen, Thank you so much. Well, I
just made it through a crazy battle of breast cancer,
so I'm still healing from that and working through it.
So I think there's some great people running and I'm
happy to support and help whoever I can, you know,
take on the machine here in Colorado. But I'm worried
about the statewide races I hope we can pull off
(31:25):
a miracle, but I'm focused more on helping the school
board races, the city council races, the help Rose Pugleci
and Cleeve Simpson keep the legislature from becoming a super majority.
So I'm really really focused on the local level and
building Rocky Mountain voice so that we can keep beating
back the liberal media here and get our message out.
So thanks for calling in Whalen, I really appreciate it.
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Now I want to go to Dave and Aurora, who
has a comment on Colorado athletes. Dave, welcome to the show.
Speaker 11 (31:53):
Right Heidi, thanks for taking my call, and yeah, your
expertise is really profound and thinks.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 12 (32:04):
This was a topic. This was a topic months ago.
Who would you put on Mount Rushmore for athletes for
a Colorado and first, my first one definitely would be
Byron Wizard White, Yeah, yep. Okay. Number two would be
Mikayla Shiffrin.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Nice, okay.
Speaker 12 (32:28):
Number three would be Hailer one, Oh yeah, for golfer
and football player from Colorado.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yep.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
And now it becomes kind of difficult, but I gotta
put John Elway.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I was just going to say, it's got to be
John Elway, right.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, I mean, although you guys like there's a certain
guy up in Boulder who's kind of brought back see
you from the dead. I love Dion and I think
he's doing amazing things. I don't know if he's ready
for the Mount rushmore yet. Let's let him win a
couple of seasons.
Speaker 12 (32:58):
But yeah, and and then, and then Chauncey Billups from Denver,
Denver George Washington High School.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 12 (33:08):
All the all these people have been in and out
of the covers of Sports Illustrated. In fact, could you
tell me, uh Haylorwin had a brother, Philerwin. Philer own
was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Taylor un was
on the cover of the Sports Illustrated. Which one do
you think was first?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Don't know, got a wrap.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
But Chauncey Billup was part of the Going to Work
Pistons that won the World championship.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
And yeah you got that in Ryan.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
There we go under the wires.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
All right, Thanks everybody, have a great weekend, Happy Friday.
We'll see us soon.
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, hello, welcome to the Dankplas Show. This is Heidiganal
filling in. It's a great Friday afternoon. It's going to
be a beautiful weekend. Ryan, Is there any football going
on this weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
There is, It's week zero they call it.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And there are several games on Saturday, I think five
D one level games, f FBS games. Colorado not in
action yet.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No next Friday night right again in Georgia Tech go buffs.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And you can hear it right here on six point
thirty k Nice in Denver and Denver. And I'm glad
you brought that up, because we will still have the
Dan Capliss Show for our affiliates in Fort Collins and
Pueblo and local listeners here in Denver that would like
to hear the show. You want to go online to
our app and that's through the iHeartRadio interface.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Nice. That sounds a little complicated, but.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh no, no, it's just a balload the app. You click,
you go, you listen.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Okay, got it, you'll have to show me. All right,
we've got Scott Chamblin. I'm gonna throw the football over
to him. No pun intendant and Scott, I'd love to
hear your take on what's happening down at the Capitol.
Welcome to the show. Thank you, Heidi.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
You know I've been at the Capitol all day today,
all day yesterday and it's been pretty awful.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Ah, I'm sorry, what's what's the highlight of the day,
the horrible highlight of the day.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Well, so I'm the exactive director of Colorado Right to
Life and so we've been watching all the related bills
that you would think a right to life organization would
be watching. And so the big one is Senate bill too.
That's SB twenty five B hyphen there there two, which
is basically giving the middle finger to the big beautiful bill.
(02:04):
And instead of if you're unfamiliar to the Big beautiful bill,
it repealed all the funding for playing parenthoods and similar organizations.
And so what this bill does sent a bill too,
it spends more of the taxpayers dollars to fill the
funding gap that was created by the big beautiful bill
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for playing Parenthood.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, Scott, how does that? How does that work when
they've got to cut a billion dollars out of the budget,
they're adding money to the budget.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Well, I think it works the same way as if
let's say your family is also running at a budget deficit,
and you get a credit card and then max out
the credit card by going to Disney World.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, okay, got it, got it. So tell me some
have there been any funny stories down there? You're so
good at using humor to push back on these guys.
What's been a comical moment from the day that stands out?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
A comical moment? That's a good question. Done too much
comical stuff today? Though, the debate on cinnabil too during
committee that is with witnesses and the proponents and whatnot,
has been does Plan Parenthood provide primary care? I said
(03:32):
it did not because they don't actually have any like
primary care doctors there. They have ob g i n's
and they have urns. And Representative write In decided to
on record question the Plan parent had lobbyists and asked
mister Shamblin. Uh said that obgy ns are not doctors.
(03:56):
Can you speak to that? So that was a little
bit comical to how insane it is that she would
twist my words like that.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's what they do, That's what the Democrats do all
day long. And someone who hasn't been twisting his words,
which as an influencer, which you are, you're great on
social media. It's been really fun to watch. Is Spencer
Pratt pushing back on Gavin Newsom? Now, I don't know
if people everybody knows who Spencer Pratt is. You may
have heard of Heidi Montag. Spencer and Heidi were the
stars of the show. I think it was called Laguna
(04:29):
Hills or The Hills back in the day, and we're
reality stars and they were villains and Spencer's family and
his house, him and Heidy's house, and Spencer's mom and
dad's house. I believe we're both burned down in the
Pacific Palisades fire. And actually Heidi contegs from Crested Butte, Colorado.
So he's been here a couple of times. I've met him,
(04:49):
We've had barbecue with him, and he's actually a really
nice guy. But he has taken Gavin Newsom to task
on social media. Have you been watching that.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I have an unfortunate I've been spending the last two
or yeah, about one two weeks focusing on special Session. Well,
you got to go check it out on social media.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's hilarious and Gavin Newsom's actually responding. And I just
heard that Newsom hired like this whole team of young
social media influencers to help him combat Trump and figure
out how to push back and fight back against him
on social media, which is going to be hysterical to
play out and watch what happens. I do you think
Gavin Newsom's running for president?
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I think he's propping himself up for it, going on
all the podcasts like Trump did. And you know, if
he does, I'd love to run a social media I
think it would be the funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Ever, how about you run social media for Polus for president.
I hear he's got that on the agenda, so that
would be quite entertaining.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
You know, I tried to get into the Senate Bill
three signing last session or earlier this year, and for
some reason I wasn't on the invite list. So I
don't think he he likes me that much.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Darn darn Scott. How can people follow you and follow along?
And are you doing your video testimony sessions coming up
in this next legislative session? Are you doing any in
the special session?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So I am now a lobbyist as I run Colorado
Right to Life, and so I I do a little
trying to be a tiny bit more professional, and I'll
still for a little bit of it. Then personally, you
can watch me on X at Scott P. Schamblin and
then for updates on Senate Bill two, you should follow
(06:41):
Colorado RTL. That's at Colorado RTL RTL like really anywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Else Roger Tom like Larry Ye, Right to Life got.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And Senate Bill two passed the Senate on third reading
this morning. Then they rammed it into House Committee same day,
a couple hours later with no alert to the people.
And then it just passed that about an hour ago.
And we're expecting it and might hit the House floor
(07:13):
for second reading tonight. We haven't left yet. We're going
to be here all night.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well you're also going to be with me next Tuesday night.
I believe it is at our uncanceled uncanceled event over
in Jefferson County. And I was telling Ryan earlier this
story about what happened with having to move the party,
and it's almost sold out now. It turned out to
be a blessing and lots and lots of people are
going to show up to support House District thirty and
(07:41):
twenty three over there Titian and Lindsay and have a
really really good time, lots of prizes, fun events. I
think we need to do more of this in Colorado
and pushback and stay strong and show up where they
don't want us to show up. Did you go to
any of the toxic town halls?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I haven't had a chance. I've been. I was at
an event out on the Western Slope in Delta County
and then I've had a few other events, but I'd
like to.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, I think I think we're going to have a
good time Tuesday night and show people that Republicans don't
just go away. We're all about having fun and making
it making it cool again to be conservative in Colorado
and growing out our network across the state. And part
of that is having events and standing strong when we
get when they try and cancel us. Right, and lots
(08:29):
of restaurants and businesses are getting attacked right now from
the left, and I think people are starting to get
some you know, a real strong spine and starting to say,
you know what, no more, We're not going to be bullied.
And there's you know, a lot a lot of people
in this state. Probably about if you add the unaffiliateds
that typically vote Republican and the Republicans registered Republicans, we've
(08:50):
probably got a good one and a half million people
in this state that can't be canceled. I hope. But
it's been great talking to you, Scott. Good luck down
at the capitol. I hope you can stop this bill
from going through. And thank you for the work you
do at Color to write to Life as well.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Thank you, Heidi. We'll talk Sam.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So, guys, Scott's down at the capitol. Rose is down
at the Capitol. I don't know how long this special
session is going to last, Ryan, if you have any
insight into that, but or how many bills they're going
to try and get through. It seems like a lot
of these things don't really tie to the actual budget
down there, but apparently they cram that in however they can.
But what's have you heard? How long this is going
(09:31):
to happen?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
For?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
No I've been reaching out to the various members of
leadership there, including Representative ty Winter, who's the assistant minority leader,
along with Rose Paglacias, the minority leader of the Republicans
in the House. And it's basically what Rose was talking
about earlier. Every Republican sponsored bill was shot down. There's
no surprise there. But it's just interesting to me to
have her describe exactly what the Democrats are trying to do.
(09:55):
It is bold, it is audacious. It is terrifying that
they were trying to do these end arounds tabor, you know,
trying to inflict pain and taxing us somehow with fees,
you know, not having to pass it through a ballot measure.
And I don't know how they're going to arrive at
balancing the budget without cutting some programs. And it sounds
(10:16):
like Rose said the Democrats were not open to cutting
anything from the budget, not one thing, right. Is that
what I heard correctly?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I think that's what you heard correct and that that's
not gonna work. It doesn't work well with your family budget.
It's not going to work well with the state budget either.
So I know we've got a head to break. I
always have so much fun bantering with you, Ryan, and
we've got it.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Guise.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
We've got a lot going on in this stay good,
bad ugly. But this is Heidi Ganal. I'm filling in
for Dan Kaplis. We'll be right back to talk more
about what's happening in Colorado politics.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Hello, this is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis
on a beautiful Friday afternoon. We've got a fun weekend ahead.
I want to hear what your plans are. Pop me
a text or give me a call. The call line
is three O three seven one three eight two five five.
Did I get that right, Ryan?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It nailed it?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh few, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Getting older memory real bent out of shape about the
toll free number, which he's right, it's antiquated. We don't
need toll free anymore. Right, everything's local or the same price.
So you didn't want to do the eight five to
five anymore? He thought three o three was the way
to go. But then I'm telling him, Look, not everybody
who listens to this program, because it is syndicated throughout
the front range is three oh three, so they might
(11:31):
have know that point of reference either. But it is
three O three seven one three A two.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Five five, and tell me the text line. Tell everybody
the text line. And I want everybody to text me
their thoughts about what's happening in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Five seven seven three nine and start it dan da
N and then say whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well kind of if it's profane.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
We can't read it on the airwell to edit it,
so don't give us extra work to do.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Keep it clean, and don't make me laugh out loud
if I look at that. What do you have planned
this weekend?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
What question?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Might be com miserating with my buddy Christian Tode at
a beer gardener too.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
That's what I was asking about Tuesday and you said beer.
I said where, and that's all that you needed to do.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I will slip you the address Friday.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Please do, please do, and I'll make sure and make
an appearance.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, we're gonna have Rob whittwere as a speaker who
wrote the Blueprints. Yeah, okay, that's the book about the
four billionaires that took over Colorado, including one Jared Polis
and boy did they do a number on this state
over the last two decades. And then Lindsay Dotco, who's
with Jeff co kids first, who you know very well,
and myself. It's going to be a great time. But
(12:37):
the point of that whole conversation is stand strong, don't
back down from these bullies, these leftist bullies, and what's
happening at the capitol. Educate your family, your friends, your
neighbors on what's really going on and these bills they're
passing and what they're doing to your pocketbook. Don't let
them get away with these fluffy talking points that it's
all President Trump's fault because of the tax cuts you
(13:00):
put through. That's ridiculous. That's just ridiculous that they're blaming
the budget hole on tax cuts. More money in our
pockets rather than their pocket Again.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
How does a state budget become dependent on whatever the
federal government is doing. It's a state budget. Do your
own budget. Whatever comes federally, that's gravy. You don't count
on that as part of your own state budget. It's
the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, and Ryan, you left an interesting sheet of paper
in front of me of the memo that was shared
with Playbook DC, featuring a new blacklist of words Dems
shouldn't use because they don't want to get canceled, right,
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
think they're trying to see more moderate, less crazy, right,
that's crazy. So among the blacklisted terms, don't use the
(13:50):
word privilege. It's just don't talk about violence as an
environmental violence because climate change kind of went away, didn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I was I just think of a Nick Swardson and
his roller skating character and Reno nine one one just exaggerated.
I know you weren't murdered, Like it's environmental violence.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh my god, violence is violence. It's so nuts.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Or they say like silence is violent.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No, it's not silence not violence. Is that really a thing?
I I don't know. Okay, don't stay triggering. That's my
favorite thing.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I am triggered by that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Me too, Me too, I'm triggered by that. Don't talk
about microaggressions anyway, that's.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
One of my least favorite You know what, we it's
gen xers growing up on the playground in elementary school
through middle school through high school.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We took a lot of macro aggressions, okay, and we
got through it. Okay, microaggressions own that microaggression.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
The shut up.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Okay, this is a rude question to ask on air,
But what you would you graduate from high school?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Ninety two?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Night?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh you're a pop Kelly. It's up to you if
you want to say, are you an eighties? Nineties? Thousands kids?
Speaker 8 (14:58):
What I graduate? I did in ninety.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh I'm an old, old stinker. I graduated in eighty four.
Well that's great from in monument at Lewis Palmer High School.
And you know, I love how the eighties nostalgia's coming back.
And once you watch these videos, right, they hit your
stream all day long. But like last night at one
and the more, I couldn't sleep, and all of a sudden,
it's like, don't you miss the eighties? Wasn't the eighties?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Grade?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
This is the time to be alive? Was the eighties?
I'm like, yeah, you know it was pretty cool? But
what was like if you had to go back to
a certain set of years, what would you go back to?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Well, nineteen eighty five, that's easy. Why I had an
undefeated Little League midget level baseball season this great summer.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I remember it well. I was in fifth grade.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
That's how I remember what grade I was in what
year in the eighties was it eighty five? I was
in fifth grade, so it matches the year, and there's
great music on MTV. Tigers had just won the World
Series the year before. It was it was a good
time in.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
My life, Kelly, what about you?
Speaker 8 (15:57):
Well, I got to tell you. So in eighty four,
growing up in Los Angeles, we had the Olympics and
I had just kind of made the switch from gymnastics
to diving, and I actually was able to go and
see Greg lugainis all of the divers, and I actually
got a chance to meet him because he was very
(16:19):
gracious with his time. So that's one thing. But also
the year eighty four I got to go with Ryan
on this MTV was huge and you just kind of
were getting into the cable channels. So yeah, you didn't
only have you know, CBS, NBC and ABC and you
(16:39):
know maybe a Fox affiliate or well there was WB.
We had something called the W maybe, So I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Know, I don't mess with her story, right, but eighty
four was great. So well, that was the year I
graduated in high school. That was awesome. And I had
a sixty six Mustang that was my baby. I loved
that car and we used to cruise Nevada Avenue in car.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It could have been a character on the Breakfast Club.
You were the same major as those students.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I could have I could have been. I loved all
those movies. What was his name, John that did use?
Oh did he do Breakfast Club?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
He directed it?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And Sixteen Candles and Weird Science and all those amazing shows.
And then Tom Cruise had Top Gun come out that year, I.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Believe, Yeah, well eighty six, Oh that was eighty all
in that mid eighties realm there.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, it was so fun and we just I mean,
things were so basic in monument. We just did stuff
like go out in the middle of a field and
have a kid love it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Let's go do that right now?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay, beer beer, beer, more beer. That's the theme of
the show. This is hiding and all fulling in for
Dan Kaplis. We'll be back after the break to talk
elections with CJ.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Carbo.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Hey, no, hno, it's Heidiganal filling in for Dan Kaplis.
We were having some fun talking about the eighties beforehand.
Great song, right and how do you come up with
this stuff so quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It's just there.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
The eighties were awesome, but we're not in the eighties anymore.
That's when Republicans ruled Colorado and Reagan was president. Heck, yeah,
that was a crazy cool time. I have a friend
of mine on now as my guest, CJ Garbo. CJ,
Welcome to the show. You are an incredible writer and
a great on the ground source of what's happening politically
(18:39):
in Colorado. And you wrote a piece that really got
my attention in Rocky Mountain Voice about election integrity, what's
happening with our elections and a lot of people are
getting more and more comfortable speaking out about this issue.
Why did you write this piece?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Thanks Heidi, thanks for having me. Glad to be here.
And I think you get the nail on the head.
I think that President Trump's leadership and I think that
he's probably the foremost authority having experienced the very unusual
election anomalies that have never occurred. I don't think there's
any historical precedent for all the things that happened. And
he's leading, and he's not leading from a place of
(19:17):
I believe political bias or any animus. I think he
is genuinely interested in making sure that elections are fully transparent,
that the American people can have faith and trust in
our election systems, regardless of who's elected or what political
party is running, and ultimately gets the vote of the people.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So CJ. Why does the ruling class panic so much
every time we talk about election reform if the system
is supposedly so secure, especially in Colorado? They do this.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Well, I think because the evidence and reasonable suspicion says otherwise.
You look at the twenty election, the four am vote spikes,
the lockout pole watchers, the hidden suitcases of balance, the
statistical anomalies that defy mathematical probability. These are not secure.
These are cover ups, and the media repeats the lie
(20:08):
to protect the regime, not the people. When truth is
suppressed and obvious fraud is ignored, this system is broken,
and so the Republican Party right now, we're the only
force willing to call it out, and we're the only
ones are willing to fight to restore this integrity. I
think that that's exactly why the people in power are
shaken by.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
This well, and the Democrats love to say is in
questioning elections dangerous because it undermines faith in democracy. And
I would argue the opposite, What say you on that front.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
Completely of truth? You know, blind obedience to a corrupt
system is what destroys democracy. A true republic depends on accountability, verification,
or transparency. If you can't question anything, you can't question
how the mostes are countered, or who controls the process,
then we don't have democracy. By the very definition of that,
you have tyranny. The skies to these elections, Republicans are
(20:59):
not un reminding democracy. They're they're trying to defend it.
And I think that's exactly why they're trying to twist
and kind of or heard those terms. They're saying that
what every honest American knows deep down, we have been
cheated and it must end.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I think I talk a lot about fairness and
how I believe Americans want fairness above everything else. Like
I think that's why Trump won resoundingly in the Sasas election.
They saw what was happening to him, the attacks on him,
the assassination attempt, and said this is enough, like stop this,
stop this, stop doing this. It needs to be fair.
(21:34):
We need to have fair elections and I think that's
where we're at right now. But how serious do you
think Trump's team around him, Pam BONDI Cash Pttel those
guys are about making people held accountable, or holding people
accountable for the things they've done, if there were things
done in the last elections.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
I think they're very serious, and I think that the
average voter or the average republic can probably sees what
they're doing as very restrained, and I think that's a misread.
I think what they're doing is that they are being
very diligent to make sure that they have all their
t's crossed, all the i's dotted, so that when prosecutorial
(22:16):
action comes, and should accountability come with using the DJ
and it's going to get to the level of arrests
and charges, they want to make sure that they can
speak with full authority and full transparency and have a
full record of account of everything that happened, and why
they're doing this and why it's not politically loaded, why
it's motivated by justice and not partisan politics.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So CJ. I know you talk a little bit about
this in your article, but what do you think the
solution is. Is it one day voting, is it paper ballance,
what's your take on what the solution is to clean
this up.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
I think it's kind of a pulling multiple levers. I
do think it involves going back to how voting was
done and how we've knew it's been secure prior to
same day voter registration, prior to mail in ballots. I
think that we have traded security for convenience. I think
(23:14):
that if we go back to a system that we
knew was transparent, that we knew had great auditibility, and
then see how the results pan out, I think that
that's probably the best way to start. And I think
that President Trump is absolutely added in the right directions
(23:36):
with at least talking about having this discussion well.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And unfortunately, I don't think we live in a state
where Jenna Griswold is the Secretary of State, Phil Wiser
is the attorney general and Jared Poulos is the governor
are going to cooperate if he asked them to do
things differently. But that's a battle we've got to take
on as conservatives in this state or anyone who cares
about election integrity. And one thing I've realized since my election,
(24:00):
and we did a lot of audit work and research afterwards,
because there were some anomalies that were really odd in
Colorado in that twenty two election, like the twenty election,
and one of the things we realized was the county
commissioners have a lot of power over how our elections
are played out because they hire and fire the county attorneys,
(24:20):
and they also work very closely with the county clerks.
And a lot of county clerks in this state are
terrified because of what happened to Tina peter Is, because
of the rhetoric coming out of the Secretary of State's office.
And so sixty percent of our county commissioners in Colorado,
I think I've got that number right. It's about that
number are conservative, believe it or not, our registered Republicans.
And if the county commissioners would start to take a
(24:43):
stand and ask their county clerks and their county attorneys
to do some research, do some auditing, do some things
that might make Jenna Griswold uncomfortable, but might restore trust
in their constituents, I think we could make some progress.
So I wrote an article last week about an effort
by Colorado Institute for Fair Elections Coffee, the group I
talked about earlier in the show, they put out a
(25:04):
letter to all sixty four county clerks asking them for
a meeting and saying, hey, let's just talk about some
issues like inaccurate voter rolls or audits not fully compliant
with generally accepted government standards, or restricted public access to
election records, or how ballots are tracked inside election offices
but once they leave the office the chain of custody breaks,
(25:24):
and finally inadequate dropbox video surveillance. They sent letters, certified
letters to sixty four county clerks. They got two responses.
Two responses Wow. One from Lake County, which was not
a friendly response at all, basically said go jump in
a lake, no pun intended. The other one was from
El Paso County Clerk Steve Schleiker, who was actually incredibly
(25:45):
gracious and wrote a four page response to our request
because I helped them with this and actually ended up
meeting with us for a couple hours, and I wrote
about the meeting Bill Lahman and I did, and he
is making some good changes. Of course, we don't agree
on everything, and I'm not sure it's the end all
bl to fixing what happens in the trust Department with
our voters. But your piece and my piece together might
(26:08):
really inform people in Colorado on Rockymount Voice dot com
what's happening with our elections and how they can make
a difference by going and speaking up of their county
commissioner meetings or talking to their clerks or even the
county attorney in that case, because it really does matter
at the local level when it comes to fixing our elections.
What do you think about that approach.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
I love the approach, especially when you're making it about
having everybody come forward with a discussion, because I don't
think there's anything that's ever happened bad or came up
poorly from discussion. I think that's a start of transparency.
I think it shows good faith, and I think that
if this was the gold standard of the most secure
election in history, I think that the people that ran
(26:49):
it should be proud of that and be willing to
give a full record of account and demonstrate and prove it.
I mean me personally, if I did something very very
well and I had people doubting it, my behavior would
be eager to disprove it. I would not be shutting
people down. I would not be shutting down conversations. In fact,
I would be probably hyper vigilant with my transparency for
(27:14):
no other reason, to demonstrate beyond all reasonable doubt that
what I'm saying is true, what I'm saying is accurate.
Here's why I believe what I believe, and let me
demonstrate it to you in a way that convinces you,
because I would not feel good people going out there
believing a lie, and I would not believe people just
to believe me, just to take my word for it,
(27:35):
or with some rhetoric just spouting out most secure election
and history, well, most secure election in history doesn't answer
the questions that Americans what they saw and have every
right to question and have every right to doubt. This
takes a conversation, and this takes getting down to the
nitty gritty details. And I think that how you're approaching
it is exactly the first steps to what I would
(27:59):
call meta and this is the medicine that would restore
trust in our election process.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, thank you, CJ. We're in agreement. I think Ryan
talked about the same approach earlier on the show. So
I am really excited to have you on the show
and would love to have you on again when I'm hosting.
I think you have such a great insight into Colorado.
So thank you. And this is Heigan All filling in
for Dan Kaplis. We'll be back after the break to
wrap up with our last segment.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
They Senator wiener I got an idea. Wants to add
more density to the Palisies because that's what we need.
We need ninety five story buildings in watts that were
former single family homes.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
That's good.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Let's have more school buses fill with kids stuck in
gridlock traffic trying to evacuate a natural disaster that was preventable.
That you and all your politician friends don't care if
a town birds out because then you get to have
your vision to rebuild it. In your sick and twists
a little fantasies. It's not time to play legos with
our community.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (29:01):
Only thing you should be doing is worrying about your
state park fuel that surrounds towns, that burn towns down.
Make sure waters in the reservoirs so the helicopters can
get the water and put it on the fires. That
you guys don't even put out in your state parks
from six days earlier. That's what you should focus on.
See all these school buses. We don't need more density
in the Palisades, So you better take your little SB
(29:24):
seventy nine back in the trash with SB nine and
stop playing with the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I forgot to say, thank you. Oh this is hiding.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
If filling in for Dan Kaplis and Ryan, that's our
buddy Spencer Pratt, who had on their BINGO card that
Spencer and Heidi would be holding the governor of California
accountable and the mayor of LA.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's awesome.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
We need we need.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
More Spencers out there right now, speaking up being uncancellable. Now,
you and I were pretty mouthy. Maybe somewhere hiding right,
I know, but I just wanted to play that clip.
So if you want to watch some fun fire going on,
watch Spencer on TikTok or Twitter. Give Gavin Newsom a
hard time. He might just prevent him from being our
(30:07):
next president. So go Spencer. All right, we got a
couple of callers. I'd like to go to Waylan and
Colorada Springs. Who has a question for me? Hi Whalan,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Hey Hei, do you thank you for taking my call?
You know it's awesome. You guys mentioned all these great
movies and stuff, but nobody mentioned war Games, which is
all about hacking into Nora's computers. Oh, some of that
was filmed here in the case your park in downtown
Colorado Springs and just outside of chau where Nord is really.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh my gosh, Okay, we got to go back and
watch it.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
You know, I grew up. I graduated in nineteen ninety one.
I we Colorado Springs since seventy five. I grew up
in the era where the word micro and aggressions weren't
even in the same paragraph, much less smashed together into
one word. And also, who do you run from again?
Because it would be a great privilege to vote for
(31:03):
you again?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh, thank you, Whalen, Thank you so much. Well, I
just made it through a crazy battle of breast cancer,
so I'm still healing from that and working through it.
So I think there's some great people running and I'm
happy to support and help whoever I can, you know,
take on the machine here in Colorado. But I'm worried
about the statewide races I hope we can pull off
(31:25):
a miracle, but I'm focused more on helping the school
board races, the city council races, the help Rose Pugleci
and Cleeve Simpson keep the legislature from becoming a super majority.
So I'm really really focused on the local level and
building Rocky Mountain voice so that we can keep beating
back the liberal media here and get our message out.
So thanks for calling in Whalen, I really appreciate it.
(31:48):
Now I want to go to Dave and Aurora, who
has a comment on Colorado athletes. Dave, welcome to the show.
Speaker 11 (31:53):
Right Heidi, thanks for taking my call, and yeah, your
expertise is really profound and thinks.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 12 (32:04):
This was a topic. This was a topic months ago.
Who would you put on Mount Rushmore for athletes for
a Colorado and first, my first one definitely would be
Byron Wizard White, Yeah, yep. Okay. Number two would be
Mikayla Shiffrin.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Nice, okay.
Speaker 12 (32:28):
Number three would be Hailer one, Oh yeah, for golfer
and football player from Colorado.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yep.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
And now it becomes kind of difficult, but I gotta
put John Elway.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I was just going to say, it's got to be
John Elway, right.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, I mean, although you guys like there's a certain
guy up in Boulder who's kind of brought back see
you from the dead. I love Dion and I think
he's doing amazing things. I don't know if he's ready
for the Mount rushmore yet. Let's let him win a
couple of seasons.
Speaker 12 (32:58):
But yeah, and and then, and then Chauncey Billups from Denver,
Denver George Washington High School.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 12 (33:08):
All the all these people have been in and out
of the covers of Sports Illustrated. In fact, could you
tell me, uh Haylorwin had a brother, Philerwin. Philer own
was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Taylor un was
on the cover of the Sports Illustrated. Which one do
you think was first?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Don't know, got a wrap.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
But Chauncey Billup was part of the Going to Work
Pistons that won the World championship.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
And yeah you got that in Ryan.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
There we go under the wires.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
All right, Thanks everybody, have a great weekend, Happy Friday.
We'll see us soon.
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