October 9, 2025 • 35 mins
Jacki Marsh, mayor of Loveland joins Dan to discuss her decision to offer space in the town's city hall building to homeless residents during severe weather, drawing criticism from some city council members.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
I feel like to be living through history.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Life gets so fast, and then you get these moments
where all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I mean, something they're going to be talking about for you.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Know, centuries to come in the history books, assuming that
this peace deal in the Mid East actually goes through,
and all indications right now that it will.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So this is cool.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is so cool, right because at a moment like this,
you get to think about all the good things that
can come from this from come from this Mid East
piece deal, and that to me, that's as good.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
As it gets.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Three or three seven one three eight two five five
the number text d A N five seven seven three nine,
And what I mean by that is, yeah, this particular
piece deal and the importance of it and everything else
as good as it gets in the sense that I'll okay,
now you can think of this whole new world of possibilities,
all the different ways that it can make life in
America and around the globe, more peaceful, better, more prosperous,
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and kind of endless possibilities.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Right, and because so.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Much is so much turmoil, you know, just springs out
of the Mid East, this ongoing battle between good and evil.
And how much better for us here in the US
and for the world if you now end up with
what President Trump envisioned, which is a very prosperous Mid East,
you know, peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors, taking
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out you know, the demons who are constantly trying to
commit another Holocaust in Israel and instead replacing it with
free enterprise, business prosperity. And yeah, just transforming kind of stuff.
So that's cool. And I also believe that that's happening
in another fronts as well, and has the potential to
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happen here in Colorado and across Americans other ways.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
We talk about so cool stuff. We'll keep an eye
on it. We have lots of fun sound.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now, let me ask in your heart of hearts, whether
you're a Democrat, Republican, something in the middle heart hearts,
what percentage of say, top Colorado Democrats, So you take Bennett,
Hick and Looper pollis wiser, the whole bunch of them,
that congressional delegation. What percentage do you think are rooting
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for this piece deal to fail?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Love your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Three O three seven, one, three eight, two five five
The number takes d A N five seven, seven through nine.
The fact that that's even a credible question, I think
it's beyond credible. I think it's it's a very fair
and important question. It just shows, you, know what, what
politics in America has become, where it's it's so venomous
and so polarized. I'd be real curious as to what
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number flashed into your mind as soon as you heard
the question and before you had the chance to analyze,
you know what?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, what percentage of all those top de Kretz do
you think are rooting for the Trump peace deal to fail?
Would rather see this ongoing bloodshed and misery and destruction
in the Mid East than see Trump get the credit
for what is going to be you know, historic understates
it right, it's going to be one of the mammoth
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accomplishments in the history of the US presidency. And don't
have to believe me, here's Joe Scarborough.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Is their belief is been.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
If anybody who's going to be able to resolve it
would be Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's on the Israeli side of the ledger.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I know you and I have been in meetings before
together speaking with Arab leaders and Arab diplomats who say
the same thing. Only Donald Trump can resolve this issue.
He understands us, we understand him, which again very unique
that you're hearing that not only from the people on
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the streets of Israel, but also hearing that from Arab
diplomats and leaders.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, so credit to Scarborough.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, I think there's some network politics and other things
going on that's causing.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This rare spasm of intellectual honesty. But good to hear.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And then we'll have other examples from other lefty outfits
just going to the point that it's undeniable.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
This would be.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Point of like what a top ten, top twenty at
the most accomplishment by a US president in the history
of our country.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So we'll have some fun playing that sound. But what
is your number, Ryan, what's your number?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
What percentage of all the top Democrats in Colorado are
hoping this peace deal falls through?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I don't know how they're going to play it though, Dan.
They might be privately hoping that it doesn't help President
Trump politically, but would their public posture be that of
I hope it fails.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm just asking for Ryan's flash number for everybody listening.
Just your flash number, the first number that comes in
your mind, not the analysis.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, I think Texter says eighty percent.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I don't think it's that high. I don't know. I
think somebody that's astute politically, let's say a Joanah Goose.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm not talking about what they're going to say publicly.
I'm talking about their heart of hearts.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And that numbers certainly higher, maybe north of fifty percent.
I don't know about eighty though, maybe somewhere in that
neighborhood though, sixty I'll say sixty percent, three advised.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Interesting. I'd love to hear from folks in that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What percentage of top and extended nationally if you want,
But I like to start locally, of these top Colorado
elected Democrats are rooting for this piece deal to fall through? Yeah,
I think the number is much much much higher, higher, higher,
much much much higher. Speaking of which, light a candle
for Phil Weiser. You know, campaign I assume is about
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to end because the wife of I think his top
campaign advisor just endorsed Bennett, and so that I think
is a sign, a bit.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of a sign there. And the iron Brittany Peterson, by.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The way, I think folks know she's a congressperson from
Colorado and her husband has been, if not the top guy,
one of the top guys in the Bennett campaign and
the pardon me, in the Wiser campaign, and so I
think her now endorsing Bennett. Yet I think that Wiser
campaign's about to well.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To run out of gas.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
What endorsements does Wiser have in his quiver?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think he has some impressive endorsements, but Bennett overwhelmingly
has has the top endorsements.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do those even matter anymore?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I think other than the ripple effect on fundraising, you
know that sort of thing, I'm not sure that they do.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Ryan right, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But but yeah. And Britney Peterson, I'm sure wants to
position for, you know, the US Senate seat should Michael
Bennett become elected governor, because he's made it clear his royalty,
Bennett that he's going to decide who fills that Senate seat,
so he doesn't have the decency to leave the seat
while he campaigns for governor, he stands in the schoolhouse
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door and prevents Colorado from having its first senator of color,
its first female senator, because it Bennett did the right
thing and stepped down right now while he ran for office.
Then certainly we'd end up with either Joan Nogose, who's
of color, or Brittany Peterson, a female, as the US Senator,
filling Bennett's spot. They'd be appointed. One of the two
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would be appointed by Polis and so Bennett is the one.
How ironic that we have a Democrat who could just
say one word and guarantee us. I mean, it's a disgrace.
This state has never had a senator or governor of color,
a female neither, right, I mean, that's an absolute disgrace.
And it's on Democrats. It's on Democrats who are total
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hypocrites when it comes to that, pretend to be so
dei and enlightened and then kick people of color in
the crotch. And you see what happens to women in
the Democratic Party. I haven't seen the female governor, haven't
seen the female senator. We're about to have a female
governor in Colorado, and listen, all these lefties would be
bad governors and senators because of their ideology, but some
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of them are very smart and very skilled and very
qualified I put that in quotes, other than their bad ideas.
And we're gonna have Kerry Kennedy as our first female governor.
She was on track for that. And then Jared Paoulis,
you know, middle aged white guy steamrolls are with his
money and there goes that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So yeah, and it's the one preventing that right now.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But I think Britney Petterson, just like everybody else, trying
to position themselves to be anointed.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Though, hey, it's not over yet.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Let's hope the GOP candidate can pull that race out.
So we have lots to talk about the SEPI. The
mayor of Loveland can to join us at four point
thirty six afford to that an issue I'd love to
get your take on. It's generated a lot of controversy
in that beautiful city where we happen to win the
state championship in softball as if Ryan cares but gradulation
and who was the MVP of that state tournament? We'll
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have to look that up. Was it Dan Caplis? You
know it might have been, Oh might have been, but
Loveland's beautiful airy anyway, a lot of controversy because the
mayor opened the doors to city hall and allowed homeless
to move in overnight after a local shelter had been
closed and there was a bad storm, So controversy over that.
And so she'll join us at four thirty six and
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much more I had, including I think we just had
the largest baby on record, born to kind of a
normal size woman too.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What do you think? How big do you think that
baby is? You're on the Dan Campla Show.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
In the month or.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
So after October seventh and Israeli, a senior official saying
to me, we are so disoriented and traumatized by this war.
The United States is going to have to make decisions
for us. Joe Biden could never do that, and Donald
trumpt was able to do it and did it at
the decisive moment when he said ventually this war must end.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, that's David Ignatius Washington Post revens so much fun
today planes sound from lefty outlet's switch to their credit
our praising Trump for the beyond historic nature of this now.
Of course, we're all assuming this will happen, and I
do think Phase one, which is the exchange of hostages,
is going to happen. It's signed, but I don't think
it gets this far if it wasn't for the fact
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that Hamas at this point has been castrated. It's been
castrated because Katar, Turkey, other Arab states at this point
have clearly cut it off, and so it's done unless
one of those other states takes a turn. And we
all know right Hamas is Iran, but without the support
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of those other states, it just can't operate in that region.
So Phase one, exchange of hostages, all indications are, yeah,
that's going to happen, and.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Then a phase two. Excuse me not.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Getting emotional that peanut butter, though it'd be fine to
get emotional over this.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's a world changing.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Phase two will be the actual reconstruction board, which gets
together headed by Trump, lat Air, Bleeders and some others,
and then it oversees the physical reconstruction of Gazas. So anyway,
that's that's what's tracking right now. Beautiful thing to see
our fat peanut. Nashville woman gives birth to nearly thirteen
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pound baby who shattering the hospital record, and Shelby Martin
normal size woman by all appearances, thirteen pound baby.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Now, the obvious quests were you, I was nine and
a half pounds, pretty big.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, that's big.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Lizzie, my baby's sister, who I think you've met, she was.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Ten and a half, ten and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
She was a bowling ball with a full head of hair. Wow,
very healthy baby, But wow at thirteen pounds sa A
thirteen thirteen how many ounces?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It just says thirty thirteen pounds.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
So the question that I would have would be a
natural childbirth or cesarean.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh no, this was you know, this is vaginal was yeah? Yeah,
at least the piece I read. Let me double check.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
That there in there?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But no, what would you guess the biggest baby on
record is? It was to survive infancy? What the biggest
prior to that?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You mean? Because this is a world record, you're saying, right.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No, no, no, this is a hospital record, like a
Tennessee record, but like.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Worldwild record is bigger than that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, fourteen and a half pounds twenty two?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh, come on, yeah, that's not an infant. It's a toddler.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, no, it's twenty two.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Though, there was a twenty two year old born in
the States in eighteen seventy nine who unfortunately passed away
within hours. But then a twenty two pounder who did
I say, twenty two year old, twenty two pounder and
then he had twenty Yeah, that would be tough, tough pregnancy,
twenty two years and then had twenty two pounder who
did survive.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But that was in Italy, so the information is power. Yeah.
I was ten ten pounds.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
That's a big baby.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But yeah, yeah, and Joe and Caroline were both seven
that's about half Jim.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, that's about average in the US.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Three out three seven, one, three, eight, two five five
the number Leaticia James indicted by a grand jury. Oh,
multiple counts nowtin mortgage fraud.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Related Stearn tables.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
CNN headline is hilarious. It's Leticia James who defeated Donald
Trump in court? Really is there is there one, literally
one person in America who thinks that that particular prosecution
was legit was anything other than a gross abuse of
of our just system. It's one of the reasons he
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won right a lot of people just don't want to
Banana Republic get.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
And Dailey Wyer just reposted her from a post that
she put out on May thirty, twenty twenty four. No
one is above the law.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, and you know from again, we don't of the
inside stuff, right, we don't have subpoena power, we can't
look at the prosecutor's files. But mortgage fraud, right, everything, Yeah,
and then the specific allegations, if I remember, I includes
stuff like claiming she was her father's something just for
mortgage purposes, and then claiming that a residence of hers
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had four bedrooms when it has five. And apparently the
significance of that is I think that the tax rate
goes way up if there's a fifth bedroom, stuff like that,
and so yeah, generally mortgage fraud related stuff. Now from
the outside, from everything I could tell from the outside,
you know, the case against her may may actually stick.
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And for those who are upset that James Comy, who
truly did so much evil, so much evil, and so
much harm to this country, but I think Comy was
probably smart enough to keep his evil outside the criminal realm.
For those upset that Comy was in purplek yesterday I
think reason for that is is I think the charges
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against him are highly unlikely to stick, whereas the charges
against James, just from what I can tell from the outside, yeah,
may very.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well be be well supported. Three all three seven one
three eight.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Two five five text d A N five seven seven
three nine. And then Mayor of Loveland again at four
thirty six. I'm really interested to get your take on
this because it's a lot of controversy up in Loveland
over the mayor designing open the doors to city Hall
and allow the homeless to stay there. I think it
was Sunday night when a storm hit a shelter there
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had recently been shut down. So she'll join us at
four thirty six to talk about that controversy, and then
this business. At least my sense that Phil Wiser's campaign
for governor's going to end soon.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think another.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Clue, right, his wife just not Wiser's wife, but I
thought the wife of Wiser's top advisor just endorsed the
other guy sitting in Congressmoman Brittany Edterson, just endorsed Wiser's opponent.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I thought you were walking into like a Rodney dangerfield.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Jokers like h Endorse, the other guy thought, But it's
a close second when your top advisor's wife, Yeah, what
endorses the other guy?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
How could that even be?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well it happened.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean, she's a sitting congressoman, I'm sure wants to
be senator. Get out ahead of it. And Bennett believes
he's going to be governor, and then a point is
successor in the US. And all I'm saying is the
irony of this, all of them on the left to
be bad right, just because of bad ideas and leftist ideology.
But if you're talking about otherwise, the skill set to
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be governor, Wiser is light years ahead of Bennett. I mean,
he's being dusted in the primary and he's going to lose,
but but in terms of skill set, light years ahead
of Bennett, which means, of course the Democrats will reject.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
What truly is on Senator Michael Bennett's resume, like what.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Has he done? That's the point.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't doubt that Bennett is good at He's just
not good at this, you know, he's just not good
at elective office.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
When because nobody has ever done less with.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
More When Comrade Kyle Kyle Clark night New is affectionally
known by me refers to Senator Bennett as a cicada
who comes around every thirteen years to be heard from.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's not great, no, And that's the reality.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He's an electoral blob, right, I mean, you look at
Wiser and he's a and you know, I mean he's unaccomplished.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He's unaccomplished.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm sure he's a great husband and father and all
those things that really matter, but in terms of what
the people hired him to do, he's he's just unaccomplished.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
He's a blob.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Wiser And again they don't be bad in office because
lefty stuff. But Wiser, you know, Wiser is very accomplished.
And Wiser's perpetual motion, and he's filing all these bs
lawsuits against Trump and everything else. But with Wiser, you
have a pulse, you have high energy, you have accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You have a skill set.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And so he's far more qualified to fulfill the fund
of governor than Bennett. But again, that is not a
criteria within the Democratic Party. Let's hope, let's hope the
GUOP nominates somebody who can beat Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Alrighty, what else is going on in the world? There
is so much I do.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I need to talk to you about this Michael Bloomberg
stuff and see if you think it's a pipe drink.
So we have Bloomberg and he's putting a million and
a half bucks into this ballad issue in Denver trying
to prevent kids, and I think it's very worthy, you know,
from having all of these different flavored vapes.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But if you're going to put a million and a
half into that, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You put a billion and a half into repealing sixty four.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Kamara Jackie Marsh to the show. She's mayor of Loveland, Colorado.
If you haven't been a loveling, it is a fantastic place.
And controversy up there because you know, there was shelter
closed and then there was some bad weather and the
mayor open city haul up one night I think it
was Sunday night to homeless people to come in and
stay and then controversy within the city over there.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Meta Mayor, welcome to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Well, thank you, thank you for having me, and.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Please do sort of set the stage for everybody I threw,
I think the skeleton out there of this issue, but
tell people the story through your eyes.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Well, like many cities, you know, we are struggling with unhoused,
which I believe is because is the lack of affordable housing.
I believe the largest group growing group of seniors, which
makes sense, right, we haven't fixed incomes things like that.
So at any rate, you know, we have had what
some might call a temporary shelter. It's literally FEMA tents.
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They're large, five people can comfortably fit in them, with
cots and things like that. We've had that going since
April of twenty three. We came close to having a
permanent shelter option at a local church, except we're had
a council member killed that discussion kind of with no
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no date for it to return. So we're back to
kind of scrambling to find a permanent solution, you know,
with you know, our nonprofits and faith community kind of
running it. So we're back to kind of where do
we go. So it was determined to close what's called
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the South through a road facility. That's where the tenths
have been. We've had on average in the summer months
upwards of fifty people, No, forty two fifty people a
night in the winter, you know, poor weather, you get
more than that. But you know, the last September, let's
say August September, have been between i'd say forty two
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two and fifty people. So on Tuesday, a week ago,
that facility was closed. So you know, you close it
and you lock the door. And because people have been
saying there, you know likely you know, they let go
of their tints and their sleeping bags, and a lot
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of times, you know, unhoused don't have It's not like
you and I. You go from you know, summer to
winter and you go to your closet or your dresser. Okay,
time to bring out the winter gear. Well, you know,
I had a few of our unhoused you know, actually
kind of show me their belongings. When one woman opened
up her backpack, she wanted me to see what there's
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not a change of clothing. So you have people leave,
you know, FEMA tents where we had heaters in the
winter and air conditioning in the summer. Nothing fancy. This
is not face and they had to leave every day.
This was a place for them to sleep and relative safety.
Only at night Okay, so you do that, so you
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you send them out. They have no tents, they have
no sleeping bags, and limited warm you know, you know,
winter clothing and the you know.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You had a storm hit right on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Yeah, so I've spent Saturday night out with them, you know,
so they had moved there, you know, we have. The
community has been great. The Loveland community has been donating tents,
donating sleeping bags, donating food, donating all kinds of things.
It's not enough yet for all of the people, and
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not for today. From but down the road. A lot
of what's been donated is not winter grade, so people
are going to be in in their own tents in
the snow. These tents are not equipped for it. In
the sleeping bags are not you know, winter grade below
the era. But that's going to be a problem going forward.
Out with them Saturday night, had great conversations with many
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of them. Many of them are employed. They just don't
make enough to afford a place to live. So I
go home. Well, actually, when you know, morning came Sunday morning.
I had been out in the cold with them since
what five six pm the night before, and as we said,
standing around chatting A couple of them looked at me
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and said, Jackie, you need to go home. Your lips
are purple. No.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
I had on two long sleeved shirts, a jacket, a
heavy jacket, a full length wool coat, glove, a next scarf,
and a blanket over and I croz forty three free.
I was, it's not It's not like being out for
thirty minutes. You're out like twelve hours. Your body drops.
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So sday, I get home and I have the luxury
of taking a nap and a shower, and I start
to Some of them asked me if I would come
back Sunday night, and I said, well, I'll check on you.
I'll come by about dinner time, make sure you're okay.
So I'm watching the weather, which originally looked like thirty
five percent chance of rain at nine pm and it
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wouldn't last long. But as I'm watching it, it's now
going to be from seven to ten pm and it's
looking like pretty heavy rain. I did a text our
city manager and city attorney and tell them the forecast
is changing. You know, if it rains, can I bring
them in? So the city manager started, you know, emailing,
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phoning staff to see if they could open up what
has been our day shelter. But he wasn't. Nobody was
answering phones and returning calls or emails. Understandable, it's Sunday afternoon,
you're doing things with your family and friends. So about
five PM, I think, and I wasn't paying attention to
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it time, but it starts to rain. Prior to the
rain starting, several of the announced and I moved what
we could, you know, food, paper plates, things like that
into one of the tents because we knew it would
get destroyed and stayed out so you know, I sent
the city manager and city attorney another text telling them, okay,
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can I move them in? It's about to start raining.
Once it did start raining, I had to make a call.
Do I let these people sit out in what looks
like a prolonged storm because by now it is extended,
it's now due to start it five and go to
I don't know, ten eleven pm. So I had to
make a decision do I let them get wet bearing
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in not mine? There were people up that did not
have a tent, did not have sleeping bags. Some of them,
quite a few actually were wearing shorts and t shirts.
Do I let them sit out knowing it's going to
be as cold it was it was the night before,
but now it's going to be wet. So I made
the call. You know, I own that We had a
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very nice group of church people who I guess have
been providing Sunday dinners. They came inside and you know,
you know, provided the food and I'll say they were
very grateful not to be out rain themselves. And as
the evening went on, it was just wave after wave.
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It ended up raining till four am, and it rained
heavy for many hours.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And may I ask and thank you for that explanation,
Mayor Jackie Marsha of Longman kind enough to be with us,
and then where the folks required to leave at a
certain time, where they and are they allowed to come
back or what is the longer term solution now?
Speaker 8 (26:43):
As any, So the rain ended at four am. You know,
there were about fifteen people inside, many people, the total
of fifty to sixty people and all if you count
inside and outside, but the ones that felt they had
tents that could you know, stand up, they stayed outside,
although there were a couple of tent failures and those
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people came in during the night, so four am everybody left.
The place was left pristine. You'd never have known anybody
was in there. I had a meeting with the city
manager at nine am Monday mornings, and as I'm coming
down the stairs from my meeting, there are some of
the unhoused in the hallways in the same chairs they
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were in a few hours earlier, you know, staying warm.
So I think there's some misperception. I think when people
think you let them into a city building that they
had access to information or.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
To city hall.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Is you have a lobby, you have always council chambers
in the bathroom, and any time during a workday people
can come in and wander around. They're not prohibited from
going to this building, to that building, down that hall,
up those stairs. They can go where they want, but
nobody can it into a.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Door and me, as ask your honor in the last
few minutes seconds actually we have together, may ask the
long term plan. Now are they now staying each night
or has there been some other accommodation.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
So the starting Monday, the city manager announced that the
day center will now be open twenty four seven, four
thirty days. He has a temporary youth permit and we
are rapidly looking at a more permanent solution. I can't
go into that. It's not atk information, but there's light
at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, Well, hey, really appreciate your time on this and
I wish you guys all the best to look up there.
I know it's a really, really hard problem and I
understand the concerns on the other side over hey, long term,
how do we handle this?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
But appreciate you coming on to explain it.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Well, thanks for having me and keifarunhoused, you know, close
to your heart.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Please absolutely well, thank you, Mayor Jackie Mark So I
want to come back, get your tick and that we're
blessed with a lot of listeners up in Loveland.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I just no matter where you come down on the issue,
I respect the fact that here's an elected official, walked
the talk, went out, slept outside with the folks the
night before. I understand the humanity of it in the
moment and can't say I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Have done the same thing myself.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But what about the other side of this argument, what's
your reaction to it and the long term solution for
the homeless?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's so obvious and easy. I can't believe we have
a ton of chats. You're on the Dan Caplas.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Show and now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
First song ever you've played on the show without deep meme,
which I'm all for.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Let me present one possible interpretation of that one after
the fact. Sure, but it just popped into my head.
You just interviewed the Lovely Mayor of Lovely. It seems
like a very sweet person and her heart's in the
right place, and you and I were talking about how
authentic and genuine she was discussing this issue with regard
to the homeless. We appreciate me or Jackie Marsh of
Loveland for joining us, but there's a determination whether some
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of our listeners out there might feel like there will
be no sugar tonight for the homeless. Letting them stay,
not putting them up, Inviting that element into city Hall
that was where it was originally stage correct.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Seems like a stretch to me. That court, yes, but yeah,
if you missed it. Mayor Jackie Marsh, she had stayed
outside the night before with the homeless, and then storm
came in. She led him in the city Hall and
then they figured out somewhere else for folks to go.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So yeah, I appreciate her joining us.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I think the controversy in Loveland, I think was spinning around,
you know, the belief that there should have been more
pre planning, etc. For that, and then there should have
been other authorizations to open city Hall.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I get the concerns.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
All I'm saying is I respect somebody who faced with
that situation. You've got a bunch of humans in front
of you, and you've had a shelter just close and
so I guess, and a lot of folks weren't prepared
now to move back outside, and you've got a cold,
driving rain starting. I respect the humanity of opening the
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door with the key you have and giving them a
warm place to save for the night.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think the test, you know, for a lot of
us listening is what would Jesus do? What would Jesus
do in that situation? Three all three seven one three
eight two five five the number text d an five
seven seven three nine want to get.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
To our phone lines?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
These texters they think I'm some kind of circus animal,
right who they can just you know, poke with the
stick and bait and I'll start snarling.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
At him, this unfortunate soul. Dan.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Unfortunately, Catholic Charities is focused on helping illegal aliens. Who
would send a text like that? I mean, what do
they think I am? Catholic Charities is focused on doing
what Jesus said to do, feed the hungry, clothes, the naked,
(31:59):
shelter the homeless. Yeah, they're focused ontoon what Jesus said
to do.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You got a problem with that.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I'd love to hear the argument on the other side,
Tracy and Longmont, you're on the Dan Caplis show.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Ooh it's a singing cowboy?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Oh the same? You know what. I didn't call it
with a song. I should have, but I didn't run.
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
There used to be a place over there in Loveland
on South Lincoln called the one one thirty seven connection,
And there was this old Catholic lady and I knew
her quite well. Her name was val I can't remember
her last name. And she supported the homeless people for many,
many years. And there's a place called the Kitchen over
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there where she fed all those people. And all those churches,
Saint John's, which that's a Catholic church. There's many denominations
over there. You know, they've done quite a bit for
many years for those people.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Walk in to talk.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, you know, you know, they provide you know, when
they do offer a lot of advantages to people if
they do want to get their lives straightened out and
do something other than what they're doing. You know, you know,
it's a difficult No, it's a difficult situation, you know.
I mean, what is it really going to take to
(33:23):
bring affordable housing back, you know, to where labor is
representative by the hours?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh, you know, you got to stop electing Democrats. See,
the Democratic Party is all about fighting for scraps. They
want to keep people poor, not themselves, but they want
to keep enough people poor, and they sure as I
want to keep minorities down because the only way the
Democrats win is if people don't make enough money.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Once people start making sixty sixty.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Five grand, the majority are voting Republican Kibo Dan.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I make minimum ways. So what is that? Almost sixteen
bucks an hour? And I've worked at day labor Jimp services.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
I've been there.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I've been out here for seventeen years. I've been tending.
I'm still tendant.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well, you're homeless, yourself.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh, I am homeless. I've been homeless for seventeen years
and I've never took anything for the government, no assistance, nothing.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, Tracy, why do you choose to stay homeless.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Because the follow Moses, you know, they put a contention
on me. I spoke to you about the symbolism and
things and the metaphysical things. It's really hard to discuss
these things to people because it's outside the realm, you know.
I mean, they'll come at you, you know, with all
sorts of things. But you know, you know, even Jesus said,
(34:42):
whosoever loves their mother and father more than me is
not worthy of me. But you know that kind of
ended because you know that the Shirts thought it really
found it had a foundation in America.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Tracy may ask you a question, and if it's too personal,
just tell me. But obviously you're a fun guy, you're
a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You you could probably.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Organize your life in such a way that you would
not be homeless, right, But but you you prefer this lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And yeah, well you know it's not preferred. You know,
it's just you know, I live within my means, you know,
and I don't need to you know, I don't want what.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You're working and start to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
The music means we're about to get cut off, but
it sounds like you work a regular job.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh you know what I do, and there's something else
I want to tell you about it. It's almost as
metaphysical as a state feeling Tracy.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Can we talk off air only because we're nine seconds
from a hard.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Break that I've got it taken? Yeah, and everybody else
on line, I'll get right back to here. You're on
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
I feel like to be living through history.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Life gets so fast, and then you get these moments
where all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I mean, something they're going to be talking about for you.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Know, centuries to come in the history books, assuming that
this peace deal in the Mid East actually goes through,
and all indications right now that it will.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So this is cool.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is so cool, right because at a moment like this,
you get to think about all the good things that
can come from this from come from this Mid East
piece deal, and that to me, that's as good.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
As it gets.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Three or three seven one three eight two five five
the number text d A N five seven seven three nine,
And what I mean by that is, yeah, this particular
piece deal and the importance of it and everything else
as good as it gets in the sense that I'll okay,
now you can think of this whole new world of possibilities,
all the different ways that it can make life in
America and around the globe, more peaceful, better, more prosperous,
(01:11):
and kind of endless possibilities.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Right, and because so.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Much is so much turmoil, you know, just springs out
of the Mid East, this ongoing battle between good and evil.
And how much better for us here in the US
and for the world if you now end up with
what President Trump envisioned, which is a very prosperous Mid East,
you know, peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors, taking
(01:36):
out you know, the demons who are constantly trying to
commit another Holocaust in Israel and instead replacing it with
free enterprise, business prosperity. And yeah, just transforming kind of stuff.
So that's cool. And I also believe that that's happening
in another fronts as well, and has the potential to
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happen here in Colorado and across Americans other ways.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
We talk about so cool stuff. We'll keep an eye
on it. We have lots of fun sound.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now, let me ask in your heart of hearts, whether
you're a Democrat, Republican, something in the middle heart hearts,
what percentage of say, top Colorado Democrats, So you take Bennett,
Hick and Looper pollis wiser, the whole bunch of them,
that congressional delegation. What percentage do you think are rooting
(02:25):
for this piece deal to fail?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Love your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Three O three seven, one, three eight, two five five
The number takes d A N five seven, seven through nine.
The fact that that's even a credible question, I think
it's beyond credible. I think it's it's a very fair
and important question. It just shows, you, know what, what
politics in America has become, where it's it's so venomous
and so polarized. I'd be real curious as to what
(02:50):
number flashed into your mind as soon as you heard
the question and before you had the chance to analyze,
you know what?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, what percentage of all those top de Kretz do
you think are rooting for the Trump peace deal to fail?
Would rather see this ongoing bloodshed and misery and destruction
in the Mid East than see Trump get the credit
for what is going to be you know, historic understates
it right, it's going to be one of the mammoth
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accomplishments in the history of the US presidency. And don't
have to believe me, here's Joe Scarborough.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Is their belief is been.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
If anybody who's going to be able to resolve it
would be Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's on the Israeli side of the ledger.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I know you and I have been in meetings before
together speaking with Arab leaders and Arab diplomats who say
the same thing. Only Donald Trump can resolve this issue.
He understands us, we understand him, which again very unique
that you're hearing that not only from the people on
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the streets of Israel, but also hearing that from Arab
diplomats and leaders.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, so credit to Scarborough.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, I think there's some network politics and other things
going on that's causing.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This rare spasm of intellectual honesty. But good to hear.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And then we'll have other examples from other lefty outfits
just going to the point that it's undeniable.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
This would be.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Point of like what a top ten, top twenty at
the most accomplishment by a US president in the history
of our country.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So we'll have some fun playing that sound. But what
is your number, Ryan, what's your number?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
What percentage of all the top Democrats in Colorado are
hoping this peace deal falls through?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I don't know how they're going to play it though, Dan.
They might be privately hoping that it doesn't help President
Trump politically, but would their public posture be that of
I hope it fails.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm just asking for Ryan's flash number for everybody listening.
Just your flash number, the first number that comes in
your mind, not the analysis.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, I think Texter says eighty percent.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I don't think it's that high. I don't know. I
think somebody that's astute politically, let's say a Joanah Goose.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm not talking about what they're going to say publicly.
I'm talking about their heart of hearts.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And that numbers certainly higher, maybe north of fifty percent.
I don't know about eighty though, maybe somewhere in that
neighborhood though, sixty I'll say sixty percent, three advised.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Interesting. I'd love to hear from folks in that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What percentage of top and extended nationally if you want,
But I like to start locally, of these top Colorado
elected Democrats are rooting for this piece deal to fall through? Yeah,
I think the number is much much much higher, higher, higher,
much much much higher. Speaking of which, light a candle
for Phil Weiser. You know, campaign I assume is about
(05:48):
to end because the wife of I think his top
campaign advisor just endorsed Bennett, and so that I think
is a sign, a bit.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of a sign there. And the iron Brittany Peterson, by.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The way, I think folks know she's a congressperson from
Colorado and her husband has been, if not the top guy,
one of the top guys in the Bennett campaign and
the pardon me, in the Wiser campaign, and so I
think her now endorsing Bennett. Yet I think that Wiser
campaign's about to well.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To run out of gas.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
What endorsements does Wiser have in his quiver?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think he has some impressive endorsements, but Bennett overwhelmingly
has has the top endorsements.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do those even matter anymore?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I think other than the ripple effect on fundraising, you
know that sort of thing, I'm not sure that they do.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Ryan right, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But but yeah. And Britney Peterson, I'm sure wants to
position for, you know, the US Senate seat should Michael
Bennett become elected governor, because he's made it clear his royalty,
Bennett that he's going to decide who fills that Senate seat,
so he doesn't have the decency to leave the seat
while he campaigns for governor, he stands in the schoolhouse
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door and prevents Colorado from having its first senator of color,
its first female senator, because it Bennett did the right
thing and stepped down right now while he ran for office.
Then certainly we'd end up with either Joan Nogose, who's
of color, or Brittany Peterson, a female, as the US Senator,
filling Bennett's spot. They'd be appointed. One of the two
(07:17):
would be appointed by Polis and so Bennett is the one.
How ironic that we have a Democrat who could just
say one word and guarantee us. I mean, it's a disgrace.
This state has never had a senator or governor of color,
a female neither, right, I mean, that's an absolute disgrace.
And it's on Democrats. It's on Democrats who are total
(07:39):
hypocrites when it comes to that, pretend to be so
dei and enlightened and then kick people of color in
the crotch. And you see what happens to women in
the Democratic Party. I haven't seen the female governor, haven't
seen the female senator. We're about to have a female
governor in Colorado, and listen, all these lefties would be
bad governors and senators because of their ideology, but some
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of them are very smart and very skilled and very
qualified I put that in quotes, other than their bad ideas.
And we're gonna have Kerry Kennedy as our first female governor.
She was on track for that. And then Jared Paoulis,
you know, middle aged white guy steamrolls are with his
money and there goes that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So yeah, and it's the one preventing that right now.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But I think Britney Petterson, just like everybody else, trying
to position themselves to be anointed.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Though, hey, it's not over yet.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Let's hope the GOP candidate can pull that race out.
So we have lots to talk about the SEPI. The
mayor of Loveland can to join us at four point
thirty six afford to that an issue I'd love to
get your take on. It's generated a lot of controversy
in that beautiful city where we happen to win the
state championship in softball as if Ryan cares but gradulation
and who was the MVP of that state tournament? We'll
(08:52):
have to look that up. Was it Dan Caplis? You
know it might have been, Oh might have been, but
Loveland's beautiful airy anyway, a lot of controversy because the
mayor opened the doors to city hall and allowed homeless
to move in overnight after a local shelter had been
closed and there was a bad storm, So controversy over that.
And so she'll join us at four thirty six and
(09:14):
much more I had, including I think we just had
the largest baby on record, born to kind of a
normal size woman too.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What do you think? How big do you think that
baby is? You're on the Dan Campla Show.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
In the month or.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
So after October seventh and Israeli, a senior official saying
to me, we are so disoriented and traumatized by this war.
The United States is going to have to make decisions
for us. Joe Biden could never do that, and Donald
trumpt was able to do it and did it at
the decisive moment when he said ventually this war must end.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, that's David Ignatius Washington Post revens so much fun
today planes sound from lefty outlet's switch to their credit
our praising Trump for the beyond historic nature of this now.
Of course, we're all assuming this will happen, and I
do think Phase one, which is the exchange of hostages,
is going to happen. It's signed, but I don't think
it gets this far if it wasn't for the fact
(10:25):
that Hamas at this point has been castrated. It's been
castrated because Katar, Turkey, other Arab states at this point
have clearly cut it off, and so it's done unless
one of those other states takes a turn. And we
all know right Hamas is Iran, but without the support
(10:45):
of those other states, it just can't operate in that region.
So Phase one, exchange of hostages, all indications are, yeah,
that's going to happen, and.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Then a phase two. Excuse me not.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Getting emotional that peanut butter, though it'd be fine to
get emotional over this.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's a world changing.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Phase two will be the actual reconstruction board, which gets
together headed by Trump, lat Air, Bleeders and some others,
and then it oversees the physical reconstruction of Gazas. So anyway,
that's that's what's tracking right now. Beautiful thing to see
our fat peanut. Nashville woman gives birth to nearly thirteen
(11:24):
pound baby who shattering the hospital record, and Shelby Martin
normal size woman by all appearances, thirteen pound baby.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Now, the obvious quests were you, I was nine and
a half pounds, pretty big.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, that's big.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Lizzie, my baby's sister, who I think you've met, she was.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Ten and a half, ten and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
She was a bowling ball with a full head of hair. Wow,
very healthy baby, But wow at thirteen pounds sa A
thirteen thirteen how many ounces?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It just says thirty thirteen pounds.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
So the question that I would have would be a
natural childbirth or cesarean.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh no, this was you know, this is vaginal was yeah? Yeah,
at least the piece I read. Let me double check.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
That there in there?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But no, what would you guess the biggest baby on
record is? It was to survive infancy? What the biggest
prior to that?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You mean? Because this is a world record, you're saying, right.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No, no, no, this is a hospital record, like a
Tennessee record, but like.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Worldwild record is bigger than that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, fourteen and a half pounds twenty two?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh, come on, yeah, that's not an infant. It's a toddler.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, no, it's twenty two.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Though, there was a twenty two year old born in
the States in eighteen seventy nine who unfortunately passed away
within hours. But then a twenty two pounder who did
I say, twenty two year old, twenty two pounder and
then he had twenty Yeah, that would be tough, tough pregnancy,
twenty two years and then had twenty two pounder who
did survive.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But that was in Italy, so the information is power. Yeah.
I was ten ten pounds.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
That's a big baby.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But yeah, yeah, and Joe and Caroline were both seven
that's about half Jim.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, that's about average in the US.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Three out three seven, one, three, eight, two five five
the number Leaticia James indicted by a grand jury. Oh,
multiple counts nowtin mortgage fraud.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Related Stearn tables.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
CNN headline is hilarious. It's Leticia James who defeated Donald
Trump in court? Really is there is there one, literally
one person in America who thinks that that particular prosecution
was legit was anything other than a gross abuse of
of our just system. It's one of the reasons he
(13:46):
won right a lot of people just don't want to
Banana Republic get.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
And Dailey Wyer just reposted her from a post that
she put out on May thirty, twenty twenty four. No
one is above the law.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, and you know from again, we don't of the
inside stuff, right, we don't have subpoena power, we can't
look at the prosecutor's files. But mortgage fraud, right, everything, Yeah,
and then the specific allegations, if I remember, I includes
stuff like claiming she was her father's something just for
mortgage purposes, and then claiming that a residence of hers
(14:21):
had four bedrooms when it has five. And apparently the
significance of that is I think that the tax rate
goes way up if there's a fifth bedroom, stuff like that,
and so yeah, generally mortgage fraud related stuff. Now from
the outside, from everything I could tell from the outside,
you know, the case against her may may actually stick.
(14:41):
And for those who are upset that James Comy, who
truly did so much evil, so much evil, and so
much harm to this country, but I think Comy was
probably smart enough to keep his evil outside the criminal realm.
For those upset that Comy was in purplek yesterday I
think reason for that is is I think the charges
(15:02):
against him are highly unlikely to stick, whereas the charges
against James, just from what I can tell from the outside, yeah,
may very.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well be be well supported. Three all three seven one
three eight.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Two five five text d A N five seven seven
three nine. And then Mayor of Loveland again at four
thirty six. I'm really interested to get your take on
this because it's a lot of controversy up in Loveland
over the mayor designing open the doors to city Hall
and allow the homeless to stay there. I think it
was Sunday night when a storm hit a shelter there
(15:36):
had recently been shut down. So she'll join us at
four thirty six to talk about that controversy, and then
this business. At least my sense that Phil Wiser's campaign
for governor's going to end soon.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think another.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Clue, right, his wife just not Wiser's wife, but I
thought the wife of Wiser's top advisor just endorsed the
other guy sitting in Congressmoman Brittany Edterson, just endorsed Wiser's opponent.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I thought you were walking into like a Rodney dangerfield.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Jokers like h Endorse, the other guy thought, But it's
a close second when your top advisor's wife, Yeah, what
endorses the other guy?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
How could that even be?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well it happened.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean, she's a sitting congressoman, I'm sure wants to
be senator. Get out ahead of it. And Bennett believes
he's going to be governor, and then a point is
successor in the US. And all I'm saying is the
irony of this, all of them on the left to
be bad right, just because of bad ideas and leftist ideology.
But if you're talking about otherwise, the skill set to
(16:38):
be governor, Wiser is light years ahead of Bennett. I mean,
he's being dusted in the primary and he's going to lose,
but but in terms of skill set, light years ahead
of Bennett, which means, of course the Democrats will reject.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
What truly is on Senator Michael Bennett's resume, like what.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Has he done? That's the point.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't doubt that Bennett is good at He's just
not good at this, you know, he's just not good
at elective office.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
When because nobody has ever done less with.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
More When Comrade Kyle Kyle Clark night New is affectionally
known by me refers to Senator Bennett as a cicada
who comes around every thirteen years to be heard from.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's not great, no, And that's the reality.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He's an electoral blob, right, I mean, you look at
Wiser and he's a and you know, I mean he's unaccomplished.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He's unaccomplished.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm sure he's a great husband and father and all
those things that really matter, but in terms of what
the people hired him to do, he's he's just unaccomplished.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
He's a blob.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Wiser And again they don't be bad in office because
lefty stuff. But Wiser, you know, Wiser is very accomplished.
And Wiser's perpetual motion, and he's filing all these bs
lawsuits against Trump and everything else. But with Wiser, you
have a pulse, you have high energy, you have accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You have a skill set.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And so he's far more qualified to fulfill the fund
of governor than Bennett. But again, that is not a
criteria within the Democratic Party. Let's hope, let's hope the
GUOP nominates somebody who can beat Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Alrighty, what else is going on in the world? There
is so much I do.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I need to talk to you about this Michael Bloomberg
stuff and see if you think it's a pipe drink.
So we have Bloomberg and he's putting a million and
a half bucks into this ballad issue in Denver trying
to prevent kids, and I think it's very worthy, you know,
from having all of these different flavored vapes.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But if you're going to put a million and a
half into that, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You put a billion and a half into repealing sixty four.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Kamara Jackie Marsh to the show. She's mayor of Loveland, Colorado.
If you haven't been a loveling, it is a fantastic place.
And controversy up there because you know, there was shelter
closed and then there was some bad weather and the
mayor open city haul up one night I think it
was Sunday night to homeless people to come in and
stay and then controversy within the city over there.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Meta Mayor, welcome to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Well, thank you, thank you for having me, and.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Please do sort of set the stage for everybody I threw,
I think the skeleton out there of this issue, but
tell people the story through your eyes.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Well, like many cities, you know, we are struggling with unhoused,
which I believe is because is the lack of affordable housing.
I believe the largest group growing group of seniors, which
makes sense, right, we haven't fixed incomes things like that.
So at any rate, you know, we have had what
some might call a temporary shelter. It's literally FEMA tents.
(19:56):
They're large, five people can comfortably fit in them, with
cots and things like that. We've had that going since
April of twenty three. We came close to having a
permanent shelter option at a local church, except we're had
a council member killed that discussion kind of with no
(20:17):
no date for it to return. So we're back to
kind of scrambling to find a permanent solution, you know,
with you know, our nonprofits and faith community kind of
running it. So we're back to kind of where do
we go. So it was determined to close what's called
(20:38):
the South through a road facility. That's where the tenths
have been. We've had on average in the summer months
upwards of fifty people, No, forty two fifty people a
night in the winter, you know, poor weather, you get
more than that. But you know, the last September, let's
say August September, have been between i'd say forty two
(21:00):
two and fifty people. So on Tuesday, a week ago,
that facility was closed. So you know, you close it
and you lock the door. And because people have been
saying there, you know likely you know, they let go
of their tints and their sleeping bags, and a lot
(21:20):
of times, you know, unhoused don't have It's not like
you and I. You go from you know, summer to
winter and you go to your closet or your dresser. Okay,
time to bring out the winter gear. Well, you know,
I had a few of our unhoused you know, actually
kind of show me their belongings. When one woman opened
up her backpack, she wanted me to see what there's
(21:41):
not a change of clothing. So you have people leave,
you know, FEMA tents where we had heaters in the
winter and air conditioning in the summer. Nothing fancy. This
is not face and they had to leave every day.
This was a place for them to sleep and relative safety.
Only at night Okay, so you do that, so you
(22:02):
you send them out. They have no tents, they have
no sleeping bags, and limited warm you know, you know,
winter clothing and the you know.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You had a storm hit right on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Yeah, so I've spent Saturday night out with them, you know,
so they had moved there, you know, we have. The
community has been great. The Loveland community has been donating tents,
donating sleeping bags, donating food, donating all kinds of things.
It's not enough yet for all of the people, and
(22:41):
not for today. From but down the road. A lot
of what's been donated is not winter grade, so people
are going to be in in their own tents in
the snow. These tents are not equipped for it. In
the sleeping bags are not you know, winter grade below
the era. But that's going to be a problem going forward.
Out with them Saturday night, had great conversations with many
(23:04):
of them. Many of them are employed. They just don't
make enough to afford a place to live. So I
go home. Well, actually, when you know, morning came Sunday morning.
I had been out in the cold with them since
what five six pm the night before, and as we said,
standing around chatting A couple of them looked at me
(23:25):
and said, Jackie, you need to go home. Your lips
are purple. No.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
I had on two long sleeved shirts, a jacket, a
heavy jacket, a full length wool coat, glove, a next scarf,
and a blanket over and I croz forty three free.
I was, it's not It's not like being out for
thirty minutes. You're out like twelve hours. Your body drops.
(23:53):
So sday, I get home and I have the luxury
of taking a nap and a shower, and I start
to Some of them asked me if I would come
back Sunday night, and I said, well, I'll check on you.
I'll come by about dinner time, make sure you're okay.
So I'm watching the weather, which originally looked like thirty
five percent chance of rain at nine pm and it
(24:14):
wouldn't last long. But as I'm watching it, it's now
going to be from seven to ten pm and it's
looking like pretty heavy rain. I did a text our
city manager and city attorney and tell them the forecast
is changing. You know, if it rains, can I bring
them in? So the city manager started, you know, emailing,
(24:36):
phoning staff to see if they could open up what
has been our day shelter. But he wasn't. Nobody was
answering phones and returning calls or emails. Understandable, it's Sunday afternoon,
you're doing things with your family and friends. So about
five PM, I think, and I wasn't paying attention to
(24:57):
it time, but it starts to rain. Prior to the
rain starting, several of the announced and I moved what
we could, you know, food, paper plates, things like that
into one of the tents because we knew it would
get destroyed and stayed out so you know, I sent
the city manager and city attorney another text telling them, okay,
(25:19):
can I move them in? It's about to start raining.
Once it did start raining, I had to make a call.
Do I let these people sit out in what looks
like a prolonged storm because by now it is extended,
it's now due to start it five and go to
I don't know, ten eleven pm. So I had to
make a decision do I let them get wet bearing
(25:42):
in not mine? There were people up that did not
have a tent, did not have sleeping bags. Some of them,
quite a few actually were wearing shorts and t shirts.
Do I let them sit out knowing it's going to
be as cold it was it was the night before,
but now it's going to be wet. So I made
the call. You know, I own that We had a
(26:04):
very nice group of church people who I guess have
been providing Sunday dinners. They came inside and you know,
you know, provided the food and I'll say they were
very grateful not to be out rain themselves. And as
the evening went on, it was just wave after wave.
(26:24):
It ended up raining till four am, and it rained
heavy for many hours.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And may I ask and thank you for that explanation,
Mayor Jackie Marsha of Longman kind enough to be with us,
and then where the folks required to leave at a
certain time, where they and are they allowed to come
back or what is the longer term solution now?
Speaker 8 (26:43):
As any, So the rain ended at four am. You know,
there were about fifteen people inside, many people, the total
of fifty to sixty people and all if you count
inside and outside, but the ones that felt they had
tents that could you know, stand up, they stayed outside,
although there were a couple of tent failures and those
(27:04):
people came in during the night, so four am everybody left.
The place was left pristine. You'd never have known anybody
was in there. I had a meeting with the city
manager at nine am Monday mornings, and as I'm coming
down the stairs from my meeting, there are some of
the unhoused in the hallways in the same chairs they
(27:28):
were in a few hours earlier, you know, staying warm.
So I think there's some misperception. I think when people
think you let them into a city building that they
had access to information or.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
To city hall.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Is you have a lobby, you have always council chambers
in the bathroom, and any time during a workday people
can come in and wander around. They're not prohibited from
going to this building, to that building, down that hall,
up those stairs. They can go where they want, but
nobody can it into a.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Door and me, as ask your honor in the last
few minutes seconds actually we have together, may ask the
long term plan. Now are they now staying each night
or has there been some other accommodation.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
So the starting Monday, the city manager announced that the
day center will now be open twenty four seven, four
thirty days. He has a temporary youth permit and we
are rapidly looking at a more permanent solution. I can't
go into that. It's not atk information, but there's light
at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, Well, hey, really appreciate your time on this and
I wish you guys all the best to look up there.
I know it's a really, really hard problem and I
understand the concerns on the other side over hey, long term,
how do we handle this?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
But appreciate you coming on to explain it.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Well, thanks for having me and keifarunhoused, you know, close
to your heart.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Please absolutely well, thank you, Mayor Jackie Mark So I
want to come back, get your tick and that we're
blessed with a lot of listeners up in Loveland.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I just no matter where you come down on the issue,
I respect the fact that here's an elected official, walked
the talk, went out, slept outside with the folks the
night before. I understand the humanity of it in the
moment and can't say I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Have done the same thing myself.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But what about the other side of this argument, what's
your reaction to it and the long term solution for
the homeless?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's so obvious and easy. I can't believe we have
a ton of chats. You're on the Dan Caplas.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Show and now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
First song ever you've played on the show without deep meme,
which I'm all for.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Let me present one possible interpretation of that one after
the fact. Sure, but it just popped into my head.
You just interviewed the Lovely Mayor of Lovely. It seems
like a very sweet person and her heart's in the
right place, and you and I were talking about how
authentic and genuine she was discussing this issue with regard
to the homeless. We appreciate me or Jackie Marsh of
Loveland for joining us, but there's a determination whether some
(30:07):
of our listeners out there might feel like there will
be no sugar tonight for the homeless. Letting them stay,
not putting them up, Inviting that element into city Hall
that was where it was originally stage correct.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Seems like a stretch to me. That court, yes, but yeah,
if you missed it. Mayor Jackie Marsh, she had stayed
outside the night before with the homeless, and then storm
came in. She led him in the city Hall and
then they figured out somewhere else for folks to go.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So yeah, I appreciate her joining us.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I think the controversy in Loveland, I think was spinning around,
you know, the belief that there should have been more
pre planning, etc. For that, and then there should have
been other authorizations to open city Hall.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I get the concerns.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
All I'm saying is I respect somebody who faced with
that situation. You've got a bunch of humans in front
of you, and you've had a shelter just close and
so I guess, and a lot of folks weren't prepared
now to move back outside, and you've got a cold,
driving rain starting. I respect the humanity of opening the
(31:07):
door with the key you have and giving them a
warm place to save for the night.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think the test, you know, for a lot of
us listening is what would Jesus do? What would Jesus
do in that situation? Three all three seven one three
eight two five five the number text d an five
seven seven three nine want to get.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
To our phone lines?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
These texters they think I'm some kind of circus animal,
right who they can just you know, poke with the
stick and bait and I'll start snarling.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
At him, this unfortunate soul. Dan.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Unfortunately, Catholic Charities is focused on helping illegal aliens. Who
would send a text like that? I mean, what do
they think I am? Catholic Charities is focused on doing
what Jesus said to do, feed the hungry, clothes, the naked,
(31:59):
shelter the homeless. Yeah, they're focused ontoon what Jesus said
to do.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You got a problem with that.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I'd love to hear the argument on the other side,
Tracy and Longmont, you're on the Dan Caplis show.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Ooh it's a singing cowboy?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Oh the same? You know what. I didn't call it
with a song. I should have, but I didn't run.
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
There used to be a place over there in Loveland
on South Lincoln called the one one thirty seven connection,
And there was this old Catholic lady and I knew
her quite well. Her name was val I can't remember
her last name. And she supported the homeless people for many,
many years. And there's a place called the Kitchen over
(32:45):
there where she fed all those people. And all those churches,
Saint John's, which that's a Catholic church. There's many denominations
over there. You know, they've done quite a bit for
many years for those people.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Walk in to talk.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, you know, you know, they provide you know, when
they do offer a lot of advantages to people if
they do want to get their lives straightened out and
do something other than what they're doing. You know, you know,
it's a difficult No, it's a difficult situation, you know.
I mean, what is it really going to take to
(33:23):
bring affordable housing back, you know, to where labor is
representative by the hours?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh, you know, you got to stop electing Democrats. See,
the Democratic Party is all about fighting for scraps. They
want to keep people poor, not themselves, but they want
to keep enough people poor, and they sure as I
want to keep minorities down because the only way the
Democrats win is if people don't make enough money.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Once people start making sixty sixty.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Five grand, the majority are voting Republican Kibo Dan.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I make minimum ways. So what is that? Almost sixteen
bucks an hour? And I've worked at day labor Jimp services.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
I've been there.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I've been out here for seventeen years. I've been tending.
I'm still tendant.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well, you're homeless, yourself.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh, I am homeless. I've been homeless for seventeen years
and I've never took anything for the government, no assistance, nothing.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, Tracy, why do you choose to stay homeless.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Because the follow Moses, you know, they put a contention
on me. I spoke to you about the symbolism and
things and the metaphysical things. It's really hard to discuss
these things to people because it's outside the realm, you know.
I mean, they'll come at you, you know, with all
sorts of things. But you know, you know, even Jesus said,
(34:42):
whosoever loves their mother and father more than me is
not worthy of me. But you know that kind of
ended because you know that the Shirts thought it really
found it had a foundation in America.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Tracy may ask you a question, and if it's too personal,
just tell me. But obviously you're a fun guy, you're
a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You you could probably.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Organize your life in such a way that you would
not be homeless, right, But but you you prefer this lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And yeah, well you know it's not preferred. You know,
it's just you know, I live within my means, you know,
and I don't need to you know, I don't want what.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You're working and start to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
The music means we're about to get cut off, but
it sounds like you work a regular job.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh you know what I do, and there's something else
I want to tell you about it. It's almost as
metaphysical as a state feeling Tracy.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Can we talk off air only because we're nine seconds
from a hard.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Break that I've got it taken? Yeah, and everybody else
on line, I'll get right back to here. You're on
the Dan Kapla Show.
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