December 10, 2025 • 35 mins
News breaks of a sanctioned oil tanker being seized by the United States off the coast of Venezuela.
Callers respond to whether stores should be prosecuted for failing to apprehend and punish shoplifters.
Callers respond to whether stores should be prosecuted for failing to apprehend and punish shoplifters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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to a great text right out of the game. We
got a bunch to get to Dan. I wonder if
the best thing you can do for your eight year
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old is move to Australia. And to me, that's so
interesting because obviously you see so many more people leaving
Colorado right now than had been leaving and fewer people
coming here. But I do wonder. I'm gonna ask Amy,
And once she gets back tonight we have prayers please,
And I'm sorry to keep it anonymous, but a very
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close family member, not our children, not my wife, but
a very close family member, very very very ill. And
Amy flies back in tonight. But I'm gonna ask her. Hey,
let's see the kids were eight or younger right now,
with the way Colorado is right now, do you think
we stay or do you think we'd move? That's a
(01:04):
great question. Yeah, how about you, Ryan, Let's say that
you had a child tomorrow, would you stare Go. He's
pondering that seat. It is a great talk radio question.
I'd love to hear from you on that. Three or
three seven, one, three eight two five five. Actually he's
turning some sound for me in a hurry. Thank you
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for that, my friend, d An five seven seven, three nine,
Because when I'm trying to remember how old the kids were,
they were pretty young. They were about that age, and
my wife was uber talented news anchor and she had
opportunities all over the country, and we actually I remember
we flew out to San Diego and took a good
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hard look at at whether we're going to move out there,
and then obviously decided to stay here. But that would
have been more of a career generated move. But right
now that the way Colorado is to deeriorated under leftist
rule and the way it will continue to inevitably until
that rules changed. Yeah, that's a good question because our
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kids were a little bit older when the scourage, the
cancer of legalized Krakowana hit Colorado, and that has to
be just such a burden for all parents, Democrats, Republicans,
all ages. So love your take on that. You can
always text us d An five seven seven, three nine,
and then we're talking about shoplifting. I'll get to some
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of those texts. George Brockler joined us this new ordinance
in Douglas County where stores will be violating the law
if they don't report shoplifting, because apparently you've got some
of these big corporate chain deals where as a matter
of policy now they're not reporting shoplifting to law enforcement
and they're just letting people get away with it. And
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so that obviously is going to attract more criminals to
Douglas County, and the county has a right to try
to block that. So what do you do about that
consensus it appears among our Texters. I'm not arguing with
that is that no employees should not be trying to
stop shoplifters. What I don't like is when employees get
fired for trying to stop a criminal. Dan I worked
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for a jewelry company where an employee chased, grab and
run thief to the parking lot. That thief shot and
killed the employee see ultimate tragedy. And I would never
ever ever support a company that required employees to try
to stop shoplifters. I would not encourage employees to try
and stop shoplifters, but I don't think employees should be
fired for that. And then you get to those other
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considerations like the King Soupers case where we had so
many of those store workers on and there the concern
was that the shoplifter was dangerous because of the type
of instrument he had in his hand. I don't remember
the particulars. So yeah, just don't punish employees, but wouldn't
encourage it, and and sure SEK would not require it.
Would you do that? Would you try to stop a shoplifter?
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Maybe you have? Uh, bro, I'm still wrestling with our
faulty technology here. Can you give me the names to
the callers? Is it Fred and Elizabeth or Fred and Elizabeth?
I'm choking, I'm choking. I'm choking. Ladies, Firs, Jennifer, you're
on the Dan caplis so' welcome?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
How are you to we having the dream? How about you?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You always are?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Have you gorgeous night?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I mean yeah, have you ever shoplifted?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I don't think I have.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, you'd remember it if you had.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Maybe, I mean did.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I do anything?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, I don't know, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, No, I have an eye.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
On things as a kid, you don't realize.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You're doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I've done incredibly dumb things, but not that one. Yeah,
So what are you thinking about all that?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well, I was listening to you talk about, you know,
if you had younger kids, would you consider moving out
of Colorado? Ryan earlier today talking about you know, what's
going on down under where they're barring kids from social media.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And you know, it's interesting because he's more emphatic about
allowing the right for them to do that. But I
have a daughter that you know, she had a cell
phone at eleven because I we just didn't know enough
back then, and I thought I was protecting her because
she could always be able to contact me, right, And
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it led, it led to a whole bunch of problems
because they're online, they get involved with the social media.
Did I regret it?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I really regret it, Absolute poison, no upside, all downside. Now,
are there phones out there where the kids could not
access social media?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You know slip phone?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah yeah, but you're afraid she'd be ostracized and eleven
year old at the flip phone. But I'm with you
that that is just such an awful, tortuous world. Of
social media, especially for kids. I don't think it's overly
healthy for any of us. There's some real redeeming value,
like a tremendous news source from X if you know
how to sift through the garbage, right.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think this was ten years ago too. We did
not hear the implications like we know them now, and
I wish I had known then what.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
I know now.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I thought about your question about as an adult with
adult children. Now I think about moving out of Colorado
based on what the PUC, the Public Utilities Commission just
did recently to start reducing emissions down to you know,
another forty one percent in the next decade. And I
have natural heat gas or natural gas heat excuse me?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah? Yeah, although the first we can get a doctor
for you.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah joking, Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But you know when you think that a commission has
that kind of power, yeah, that I have to change
my home heating system. It costs me ten to fifteen grand.
What kind of state is this?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Can you bring me back to that one. I've been
trying a lot of cases. I might have missed that issue.
Are you saying Polus is now making you change out
your heat?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
The Public Utilities Commission is going ahead with cutting emissions
greenhouse gases by forty one percent by twenty thirty five.
The plan that was approved four years ago that emissions
only needed to be cut to twenty two percent, and
it's causing the utilities. I mean, the utilities had already
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figured out their budgets what it was going to take
to comply. Now they have to double their efforts to
get down to forty one percent, and they want to
be emission free by twenty fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know what saying that is going to be? Yeah,
I follow, you know, you know it's so remarkable and
just shows the total dishonesty of police in the left.
Here is wait a second full throated supporters of the
quote legal marijuana industry, which is you talk about energy consumer,
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you talk about the ultimate greenhouse gas emitter. Is this
whole marijuana industry that they are wholeheartedly in supportive. So
anybody who pretends to care about you know, those emissions,
any of that stuff, who supports legal marijuana, that just
tells you they're a total phony. But day, thank you
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so much for your call. Really, Oh I'm sorry, I
didn't mean to cut you off. Come on back, come
on back here. What were you going to say?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I was just gonna say, it's a double standard.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Double standard. What, well, you're being way too kind to him.
It's flat out dishonesty and deception. No, it's flat out
dishonesty and deception. They say they care about things, they
really don't. They prove they don't care in these other ways. Yeah,
take a look at the marijuana industry, Take a look
at how much energy it consumes. Take a look at
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the greenhouse gas emissions. And anybody who supports legalized marijuana,
anybody aware of the reality of the energy consumption and
greenhouse gas emissions, anybody who supports legal marijuana. What they're
telling you right there is that they know, they know
for a fact in their mind that greenhouse gas emissions
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are not endangering us as a society, or else they
wouldn't support legal marijuana. And anybody who tells you, oh,
we've got a limit energy consumption, this, this, that if
they're supporting legal marijuana, they're just telling you that they
are a total phony on all of that. But you
tell me, I mean, maybe you have young kids right now,
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that question I asked, I mean, if our kids who
are now twenty four and twenty seven. If our kids
had been say eight and eleven, seven and ten, if
they were those ages in Colorado right now, would we move?
Are you think if your kids are those ages? Are
you thinking a moving? Should you be? You're on the
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Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast. I
love this, and then we'll go to the phone lines.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So we'll start in Elizabeth with Fred three all three
seven three eight two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine one of my favorite texts
of the year. Dan, it sounds like you might be
happier and less bitter if you go ahead and leave.
Life is too short to stay somewhere. You have so
many complaints about You need a new adventure. Yeah, it's
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just a lefty who cannot respond to any of my
criticisms of the left. No, my friend, it is very
very possible. In fact, I've proven and many others have.
It's it's easy to love a place like this place,
and to love a place so much that you want
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to fix what's wrong. That is a very easy balance
to strike. I was talking about a different issue. I
was talking about the kids and the issue that came up, was, Hey,
if you had young kids right now, if our kids
we were say eight eleven or seven and ten right now,
would we leave Colorado for their best interest, for their safety,
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for their health. That's the issue, Dan says, a texture,
we have an eighteen month and another on the way.
Our family roots run too deep to leave. Somebody has
to stay and fight it out, otherwise it'll never get better.
Completely respect that attitude, particularly as a guy who I
think I've proven on air over the years willing to
risk and endure a lot to fight the good fight.
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But I'm sure it's the same for our texture as
it is for every sane person out there. Your children
come first, and the best interest of the child comes first. Now,
our text is in the best position to determine how
to strike all those balances for his or her family
and their children. But if our kids were that young
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age right now in a Colorado being overrun with high
potency marijuana, a Colorado run by the Left in such
a way that crimes exploding, all these other threats are exploding,
The danger of death on the roadways is exploding, all
because of the Left, you know, And in our situation,
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we're blessed because I have a good, steady paycheck and
Amy had a great paycheck for a lot of years
that you have. You know, we can afford to put
our kids in a school where they can get a
competitive education. But for a lot of parents who are
very hard working people. Colorado is also a state where
you know, you're so often stuck in government run education
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because the Left doesn't want you to have true school choice. Now,
some of that government run education is really good, but
a lot of it's really bad. Fred and Elizabeth, you're
on the Dane Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Yes, that's a real tough issue with this, the shoplifting.
You I want to see him go to jail, But
how do you do that? You know, are you going
to tell your employees to stop them? And if the
employee gets hurt or if the shoplifter gets hurt, you
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wind up with a lawsuit. So then you say, okay,
well we'll how to security. Well, how many do you
need and how much you're going to pay? You know,
a guy steals a two hundred dollars drill that really
costs home depot one hundred dollars. But you've got a
guard that you're paying two hundred dollars a day, and
are they armed. If they are, you've got to pay
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a higher insurance premium in case stand up escalating a
situation and somebody gets shot. It's unfortunately, it's cheaper to
let him steal it than to suffer the repercussions of
a lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, Fred, you laid that out really well. I think
called Douglas County scene is you got to report you
just within four days, you got to call the county.
You got to report it. I don't think. I don't
know if the law says this, but you should let
the county look at the video and let the county
do what it can do.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Well, Yeah, they're so busy do they really have time
a couple of days later to track somebody down. I
saw a guy walk out of a store the other
day and it was fishy, and I followed them and
they got in a car with no license plate. So
I call the Parker Police and the guys. We're not
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going to chase them because the chances are they'll speed up,
and if there's an accident somebody gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is it worth Yeah, No, it wouldn't be worth the
chasing you did the right thing. Thank you for that.
But what George Brockler the DA was telling us at
four thirty six was no, in Douglas County, they will respond,
And I completely believe that. I mean, not every county
is created equally, and in Douglas County and it's not
the only great county, but in Douglas County, you know
that they they have the resource, they have a lot
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of good people in place. They pride themselves on low crime,
and one of the reasons they have low crime is
they want the reputation. You commit crime in Douglas County,
you're going to stay in Douglas County, but not where
you want to be staying.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I agree with that. I mean, Jaron Wakeley is a
great guy. He's a friend of mine. George Barkler's a
great friend of mine. But here's the problem. Remember, it
doesn't apply in the towns so Castle Parker, at least
that's what the paper report today.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah. No, I think that's right.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Incorporated area. Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah? And my understanding from George on the show is
that it's really aimed at these big national chains and
I don't know whether they're disproportionately in the in the
unincorporated areas. But Fred, I get all of your concerns,
and I hope no employee out there tries to stop
a shoplifter, but I don't want him fired if they do.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
No, I concur man. I mean you and I are
on the same page. I'm just saying, yeah, clear economics.
A lot of these big box says, hey, it's a
price to do the business.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Sorry, but I'll tell you, and I'd love to know
from you, Fred, if I haven't had this happen. But
if I'm standing there and somebody's grabbing something off the
shelf and running out the door. Dependent on the circumstances,
and I'm not recommending this for anybody else, I might
stop them, or i'd have to. I'd have to evaluate
the whole circumstance obviously, who's around, what other danger, everything else.
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But I'm sure for you and me and everybody listening,
the instinct would be to stop them, because I think
God creates us with this powerful sense of right and
wrong and justice, and I think just instinctively you'd want
to stop them.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Well, we all want to stop them. But I'm not
a young man, and what if the guy flies is
a knife but if you know, what if they what
if they shoot you? I mean, these are the things
you don't know. If we live today that has too
much senseless violence and people are hesitant to step out
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because of the personal risk.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh no, I hear you a name man, great call,
really logical call. And I know this goes without saying,
but for all of my fellow concealed carry folks, yeah,
there would be no justification for using a firearm in
those circumstances. A clear bright line, not over property, not
over property only you know, very very very serious imminent
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risk of death or serious bodily injury. And even then
you got to be really really careful, depending upon which
county you are in. So anyway, I want to get back.
I don't want to cheat a caller here by going
to call shortly before we pop this break. But if
you just joined us, thank You've got some great calls
coming in. On two different things. One is, if your
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kids are young, are you thinking of moving outside of
Colorado because of how the Left is making this state
so much more dangerous for kids? Or like the text,
are you saying no, somebody's got to stock stay here
and fight and separately shoplifters new ordnance in Douglas County.
Do you think that stores should face criminal punishment if
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they do not report, They're not required to stop them,
but if they do not even report shoplifters to law enforcement.
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You're listening to the Dan Caplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Wow five point thirty six. Glad you are here, just
looking at this breaking news on the US seizing an
oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela. Reportedly a very
large tanker carrying sanctioned oil from Venezuela to ron. So
we'll keep you posted on that story. I know we
have some text today as well, just talking about President's Trump,
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president Trump's actions with regard to Venezuela, et cetera. Big
picture there three or three someone three eight two five
five the number text d an five seven seven three nine.
Big picture is I think what you have with President
Trump is you have a man in a hurry, and
he's a man in a hurry to use the power.
He has to use this window. And it's a small window,
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a short window four years, but it's in many ways
really two because then of the kind of the lame
duck phase after that, which doesn't affect his commander in
chief capability. But he's in a hurry and there's a
lot he wants to get done. He's had a lot
of time to think about it before his second term,
and the he just wants to clean up as much
as he can around the world without a war, as
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much as he can to help protect this nation before
the next presidency because he knows it could be a Democrat.
We hope not for the good of the country in
the world, but it could be. And he's just trying
to get as much done as he can. And I
really do respect that, and I understand people can debate
this particular tactic or that tactic, but he is a
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man in a hurry to make America safer and I
do appreciate that. Hey, one of the things we're kicking
around this afternoon is if you have young kids right now,
are you thinking about leaving Colorado? Because how the Left
has made this state so much more dangerous from them
growing up, everything from just Kraklean everywhere, to more dangerous roads,
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to more crime, etc. And then a second issue, not
really related, but crime component that is Douglas County. This
interesting ordinance they just kicked in that makes it illegal
for stores in the unincorporated part to fail to report
shoplifters law enforcements. So they're not saying you have to
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stop shoplifters or detain them or any of that. You
just have to report it to law enforcement within four days.
Because Douglas County concerned that wrong messages being sent to
shoplifters and it's going to cause more of it out there.
So what are your thoughts on those two? We'll get
to some text and then back to the phone lines. Dan,
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I have called stores and told them I won't come
in until they tell vagrants to get away from the
front door. The stores tell me to call the cops myself.
Dan infuriate the left goo hyperbolics say gas prices are
going down, Trump is seizing oil tankers. A lot of
different thoughts. There no question gas price is going down.
I think Americans see and appreciate that. And the opposite
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of what we had with Biden. Dan, I told Walgreen's
employees when I saw thieves walking out with stuff, the
employees didn't even look up. They say they can't do anything.
Then they take my money for what I and that's
a beautiful thing. Is are we ever going to reach
the point short of some kind of world calamity where
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normal people just decide, Okay, I'm not going to pay either,
I'm just going to walk out. No, I don't think
we are. I think there is very close to zero
danger that non criminals are going to just all of
a sudden decide, well, they're allowing it, so I'm just
going to take something. No, because I think, yeah, you
have that deter In fact, you have some people or
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don't do it because they're afraid they'll caught. But the vast, vast,
vast majority of people don't do it because it's wrong.
And yeah, because it may be informed by their faith,
just their their basic sense of virtue and right and wrong,
but they don't do it because it is wrong. Maybe
I'm wrong on that. And maybe with more and more
stores going to hey, we don't even care, take what
you want, We're not going to report it, do you
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think more normal people start doing it? I just can't
see that. And we all know if that does start
to happen, then changes the math for the store. They're
going to change their approach and they are going to
start hiring more security, reporting it more often, et cetera.
Let's see, Dan, I like what ISLM does steal? Get
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your hand cut off? I don't think that's what's happening
in most places. I hope it is not. And don't
get me wrong, Hey, I think shoplifting is. You need
to come up with a better term. They're just thieves,
they're just criminals. The term shoplifting seems to somehow discount
it pun intent. No, I think it should be punished
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more severely. This goes back to part of what I
was talking about yesterday. We need to reimagine, as the
woke would say, we need to reimagine incarceration because we
think of jails in terms of where have you spent time? Ryan,
I'm just trying to see if he's listening, because he's
now Ryan is heroic back there? Well, oh it is?
Speaker 5 (23:23):
It is?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Did that go out on air? Ryan was describing the
type of storm that's going on back there right now,
and that was not fur There's some bodily functions yet
we're wrestling with some tech issues. But that Ryan has
not been in jail. I just threw that out there.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
No, let me get us attention closest I ever got
Dan was spring Break nineteen ninety seven South Beach, Miami
area of Florida, and I was legal. I was, you
know what, twenty two going on twenty three at that time,
trying to get into a club. And there were police
right outside and they like kind of whisked me away
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in line like a stop post. Not even joking, so
that's not a real idea, Like what are you talking about.
It was a Michigan, Ida and I'm in Florida and they're, oh, yeah,
spring breaker, right, and I'm they almost put in the
back of the squad car, and I didn't know what
to do.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
In that moment. What what I got?
Speaker 8 (24:15):
I got a credit card, I got other forms of identification.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Then they saw that they go, okay, wait a minute,
you have for jerks to me, what are you doing? Yes,
you got no street credit like those of us who've
done some hard time. Yes, yeah, I should have got
a tap. That's where I missed the opportunity. Now this
was I do give serious consideration to whether this is
my guardian angel saving me for Amy. And because this
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was back in Boulder college years out on a date,
it went great, really interested in this very nice young
lady and driving home and all of a sudden, a
couple of cars all this and that, and it was
apparently an unpaid ticket like maybe a eating ticket or something,
straight to jail and they made her walk home and
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so dat. So yeah, this is Boulder. I couldn't tell
you the year, but I could figure it out if
I had to. Somewhere in their late seventies maybe, but yeah.
So not an ideal end of the day, but worked
out great because I ended up being saved for my wife,
who I wouldn't trade for anything. And uh but yeah,
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off to jail, took the bell, took the shoelaces, everything else.
You get thrown in jail because of an unpaid ticket
in Bolder, Yeah, quite the experience. Now. I mean, I
don't know about Boulder, but most places you couldn't find
your way into jail unless there were how many bodies? Right?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Crazy times crazy, But I made sure I paid my
tickets after that on time three oh three seven three
eight two five five five seven seven three nine. Dan,
I agree with reporting shop lifting. I want the stats.
I want to know if we're I'm moving is safer
than where I am. So what I think is it's
more about the stats. I certainly don't want employees trying
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to stop it, but I do think they should be
the first ones to down nine one one. Yeah. No,
I don't want employees trying to stop it either. I
just don't want them fired if they do try to
stop it. I can't imagine there's a business out there
right now that encourages employees to stop it. I think
if there is, unless we're talking about professional security obviously,
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but I would be opposed to any business in it
right now encouraging or requiring employees to try to stop it.
I do think it's a little bit crazy that some
of these, some of the big national chains don't have
fully armed security in there, if nothing else, just to
deter to deter the threat of a mass shooter. And
I know that's a long shot, but it's a small
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chance of something catastrophic. And the other thing is to
deter shoplifters, just the deterrent value of having an arm
guid there. Ryan, we spent so much time on air,
got the King Supers over on Holly and Orchard King
five and it's my normal King Supers, right, and I
think it was I wasn't in there today, but very
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very often when I'm in there now, they have very
obvious armed security.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Same at mine in Greenwood Village. I think we're talking
about the same one. Well, Yosemite is when I oh.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yosemite, Yeah, I go to that one too sometimes. Yeah,
which makes perfect sense, and my guess is it works
out from dollar wise. I also think the customers deserve it,
because the customers shouldn't have to pay for the shoplifters,
and the customers should have that additional protection against the
small chance of some kind of shooter in there. Totally.
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I feel safer with the security guard in there.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
I feel better about my shopping experience knowing that that
security guard is there.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yees.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So if you looked at the balance sheets of all
these national chains, they could certainly afford to do it,
and my guess is that they'd come out on the
last end in the end, you and I certainly would
because we wouldn't have to be paying for these shoplifters.
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are young, have you given a thought to leaving Colorado
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because of what the left is doing? If your kids
are older as ours are now would you leave now
if they were still that age? You're on the Dan
Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And now back to the Dankapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm broadcasting out of our Denver studio today and just
heart a spot here for a doctor Paul Couldrelly. And
that's wild because he has worked on both of our
children's eyes and done a fantastic job. So nice to
hear that spot on the show. Three on three seven
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back to the phone lines here. Lots of text as
we talk about these dueling topics, both of them fascinating.
Should stores be required by law to report shoplifts? Douglas
County now requiring that? And are you thinking about moving
out of Colorado if you have young kids because of
what the Left is doing to the state, which is
making it a whole lot more dangerous for kids. We'll
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start with John. You're on the Dankaplis.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
She'll welcome Hi, Dnne and say hello to your wonderful wife.
I proably remember her as an anchor and miss her
being an a Oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
She was tremendous I ran into somebody yesterday who actually
saw me proposed to her on air. Oh and I thought, wow, yeah,
I glad somebody was watching.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I have one question for you, this reporting shoplifting. How
are they going to know whether you were really reported
or not?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
That is brilliant, my friend. Let's think that one through.
So if the law that says you have to report it,
they don't, I think it would. They would only find
out if it was reported by some other witness, right
a citizen or an employee.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
And if they don't report it, he said, there's a fine.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, I think it's up to one thousand bucks. And
this is in the unincorporated part of Douglas. We had
George Brockler and with us at four thirty six. It
sounds like this is aimed at some of the big
national chains. Another way they might find out is if
they then bust the person they bust that that criminal
in connection with something else, and then all of this
comes out as as part of you know, the investigation,
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a plea deal, et cetera. But as George explained the
idea behind the ordinance, it's not like George was behind
this and said got the impression he may not even
support it, but but I think the idea here is
to just empower these these corporate chains with with what
they need, to convince the people who are calling the
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shots to just put reporting into their protocol. I think
that's the gist of this ordinance.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Well, sometimes I look at it and see it's a
way of them generating revenue. Yeah, and just like with this,
Denver's wastewater tax is ridiculous. It's the same time we're.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Having some technical issues here. John very much appreciate the call.
I don't think this one is a revenue deal because
I doubt it will be enforced often at all. So
it's not one of those things that I think could
produce a lot of revenue for the county. Andrew, you're
on the dan Kaplas. You'll welcome.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Hi. Just a funny story from about forty years ago.
My brother Beck in Pennsylvania was assistant manager of a
jewelry store and he was in his young early twenties,
and you know, they usually only put a few items
out for the customer to look. So the customer stole
a watch. So my brother was like, oh, you want
to give me that watch that you took, and he
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pretended he didn't have it. So my brother, without saying anything,
just walked to the front door and just locked the door.
So the guy was now locked into the jewelry store. Wow,
he suddenly remembered that he had stolen the watch and
gave it to my brother.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Ah, your brother's pretty gutsy.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Well, yeah, I guess back in the day it would
be a little different than it is now things are
a little more normal. But yeah, he just locked the
door and wow, you know the guy was now locked in,
so he had.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
To That is a great tactic. Thank you for that. Wow. Ryan,
who do we have on line too? It's like the
old Frasier show right with their screen down. You sure
it's not Michael Bennett. And we just got the promo
for tomorrow we're going to be talking about is it
an automatic disqualifier for Michael Bennett? The guy's running for
governor of Colorado. He just did a one to eighty
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and now supports redistricting in Colorado to take away Republican
congresstional seats. That should be I mean, there are so
many things that disqualifies Bennett, but that should be automatic,
no matter which side of the aisle. You're on Michael
in Bennett. You're on the Dan Caplis. You'll welcome.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Thank you for pronouncing that correctly because normally exees me
about being Michael Bennett.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I was wondering with this theft that's going on, Dan,
and I think George Blocker would be one of the
guys that could promote this, and that would be just
put a AI in these stores. You have security program
that boughts your your theft through camera and then nowadays
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they're going to start having a remote control robotic security
within the store. But nevertheless, you could use this as
a database throughout the stores, whether you're King super Safe
or anywhere, and if they've been spotted with theft, or
they could actually watch you come in the store and
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notify the police that you're there and that you've stole
you know, within other stores in other districts.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh great thinking, and it's part of the excitement of
thinking what AI might bring that don't have to be
our last call today. Obviously with AI, you know we've
got the two sides of the ledger. There are going
to be a whole lot of jobs lost. I think
far more jobs than we realize right now. Lost because
of AI. On the other hand, it's going to make
I think a lot of life easier and cheaper and
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safer and in some ways better. And then overhanging all that, okay,
is AI going to destroy the world? But what a
time to be alive. Ryan, thank you so much for
all that you do, including fighting these tech battles today
back there, and Doug. Grateful for your time today as well.
Please do be careful out there. Three or three seven, one, three, eight,
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to a great text right out of the game. We
got a bunch to get to Dan. I wonder if
the best thing you can do for your eight year
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old is move to Australia. And to me, that's so
interesting because obviously you see so many more people leaving
Colorado right now than had been leaving and fewer people
coming here. But I do wonder. I'm gonna ask Amy,
And once she gets back tonight we have prayers please,
And I'm sorry to keep it anonymous, but a very
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close family member, not our children, not my wife, but
a very close family member, very very very ill. And
Amy flies back in tonight. But I'm gonna ask her. Hey,
let's see the kids were eight or younger right now,
with the way Colorado is right now, do you think
we stay or do you think we'd move? That's a
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great question. Yeah, how about you, Ryan, Let's say that
you had a child tomorrow, would you stare Go. He's
pondering that seat. It is a great talk radio question.
I'd love to hear from you on that. Three or
three seven, one, three eight two five five. Actually he's
turning some sound for me in a hurry. Thank you
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for that, my friend, d An five seven seven, three nine,
Because when I'm trying to remember how old the kids were,
they were pretty young. They were about that age, and
my wife was uber talented news anchor and she had
opportunities all over the country, and we actually I remember
we flew out to San Diego and took a good
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hard look at at whether we're going to move out there,
and then obviously decided to stay here. But that would
have been more of a career generated move. But right
now that the way Colorado is to deeriorated under leftist
rule and the way it will continue to inevitably until
that rules changed. Yeah, that's a good question because our
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kids were a little bit older when the scourage, the
cancer of legalized Krakowana hit Colorado, and that has to
be just such a burden for all parents, Democrats, Republicans,
all ages. So love your take on that. You can
always text us d An five seven seven, three nine,
and then we're talking about shoplifting. I'll get to some
(02:31):
of those texts. George Brockler joined us this new ordinance
in Douglas County where stores will be violating the law
if they don't report shoplifting, because apparently you've got some
of these big corporate chain deals where as a matter
of policy now they're not reporting shoplifting to law enforcement
and they're just letting people get away with it. And
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so that obviously is going to attract more criminals to
Douglas County, and the county has a right to try
to block that. So what do you do about that
consensus it appears among our Texters. I'm not arguing with
that is that no employees should not be trying to
stop shoplifters. What I don't like is when employees get
fired for trying to stop a criminal. Dan I worked
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for a jewelry company where an employee chased, grab and
run thief to the parking lot. That thief shot and
killed the employee see ultimate tragedy. And I would never
ever ever support a company that required employees to try
to stop shoplifters. I would not encourage employees to try
and stop shoplifters, but I don't think employees should be
fired for that. And then you get to those other
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considerations like the King Soupers case where we had so
many of those store workers on and there the concern
was that the shoplifter was dangerous because of the type
of instrument he had in his hand. I don't remember
the particulars. So yeah, just don't punish employees, but wouldn't
encourage it, and and sure SEK would not require it.
Would you do that? Would you try to stop a shoplifter?
(04:00):
Maybe you have? Uh, bro, I'm still wrestling with our
faulty technology here. Can you give me the names to
the callers? Is it Fred and Elizabeth or Fred and Elizabeth?
I'm choking, I'm choking. I'm choking. Ladies, Firs, Jennifer, you're
on the Dan caplis so' welcome?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
How are you to we having the dream? How about you?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You always are?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Have you gorgeous night?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I mean yeah, have you ever shoplifted?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I don't think I have.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, you'd remember it if you had.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Maybe, I mean did.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I do anything?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, I don't know, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, No, I have an eye.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
On things as a kid, you don't realize.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You're doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I've done incredibly dumb things, but not that one. Yeah,
So what are you thinking about all that?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well, I was listening to you talk about, you know,
if you had younger kids, would you consider moving out
of Colorado? Ryan earlier today talking about you know, what's
going on down under where they're barring kids from social media.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And you know, it's interesting because he's more emphatic about
allowing the right for them to do that. But I
have a daughter that you know, she had a cell
phone at eleven because I we just didn't know enough
back then, and I thought I was protecting her because
she could always be able to contact me, right, And
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it led, it led to a whole bunch of problems
because they're online, they get involved with the social media.
Did I regret it?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I really regret it, Absolute poison, no upside, all downside. Now,
are there phones out there where the kids could not
access social media?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You know slip phone?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah yeah, but you're afraid she'd be ostracized and eleven
year old at the flip phone. But I'm with you
that that is just such an awful, tortuous world. Of
social media, especially for kids. I don't think it's overly
healthy for any of us. There's some real redeeming value,
like a tremendous news source from X if you know
how to sift through the garbage, right.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think this was ten years ago too. We did
not hear the implications like we know them now, and
I wish I had known then what.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
I know now.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I thought about your question about as an adult with
adult children. Now I think about moving out of Colorado
based on what the PUC, the Public Utilities Commission just
did recently to start reducing emissions down to you know,
another forty one percent in the next decade. And I
have natural heat gas or natural gas heat excuse me?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah? Yeah, although the first we can get a doctor
for you.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah joking, Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But you know when you think that a commission has
that kind of power, yeah, that I have to change
my home heating system. It costs me ten to fifteen grand.
What kind of state is this?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Can you bring me back to that one. I've been
trying a lot of cases. I might have missed that issue.
Are you saying Polus is now making you change out
your heat?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
The Public Utilities Commission is going ahead with cutting emissions
greenhouse gases by forty one percent by twenty thirty five.
The plan that was approved four years ago that emissions
only needed to be cut to twenty two percent, and
it's causing the utilities. I mean, the utilities had already
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figured out their budgets what it was going to take
to comply. Now they have to double their efforts to
get down to forty one percent, and they want to
be emission free by twenty fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know what saying that is going to be? Yeah,
I follow, you know, you know it's so remarkable and
just shows the total dishonesty of police in the left.
Here is wait a second full throated supporters of the
quote legal marijuana industry, which is you talk about energy consumer,
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you talk about the ultimate greenhouse gas emitter. Is this
whole marijuana industry that they are wholeheartedly in supportive. So
anybody who pretends to care about you know, those emissions,
any of that stuff, who supports legal marijuana, that just
tells you they're a total phony. But day, thank you
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so much for your call. Really, Oh I'm sorry, I
didn't mean to cut you off. Come on back, come
on back here. What were you going to say?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I was just gonna say, it's a double standard.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Double standard. What, well, you're being way too kind to him.
It's flat out dishonesty and deception. No, it's flat out
dishonesty and deception. They say they care about things, they
really don't. They prove they don't care in these other ways. Yeah,
take a look at the marijuana industry, Take a look
at how much energy it consumes. Take a look at
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the greenhouse gas emissions. And anybody who supports legalized marijuana,
anybody aware of the reality of the energy consumption and
greenhouse gas emissions, anybody who supports legal marijuana. What they're
telling you right there is that they know, they know
for a fact in their mind that greenhouse gas emissions
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are not endangering us as a society, or else they
wouldn't support legal marijuana. And anybody who tells you, oh,
we've got a limit energy consumption, this, this, that if
they're supporting legal marijuana, they're just telling you that they
are a total phony on all of that. But you
tell me, I mean, maybe you have young kids right now,
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that question I asked, I mean, if our kids who
are now twenty four and twenty seven. If our kids
had been say eight and eleven, seven and ten, if
they were those ages in Colorado right now, would we move?
Are you think if your kids are those ages? Are
you thinking a moving? Should you be? You're on the
(10:05):
Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast. I
love this, and then we'll go to the phone lines.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So we'll start in Elizabeth with Fred three all three
seven three eight two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine one of my favorite texts
of the year. Dan, it sounds like you might be
happier and less bitter if you go ahead and leave.
Life is too short to stay somewhere. You have so
many complaints about You need a new adventure. Yeah, it's
(10:33):
just a lefty who cannot respond to any of my
criticisms of the left. No, my friend, it is very
very possible. In fact, I've proven and many others have.
It's it's easy to love a place like this place,
and to love a place so much that you want
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to fix what's wrong. That is a very easy balance
to strike. I was talking about a different issue. I
was talking about the kids and the issue that came up, was, Hey,
if you had young kids right now, if our kids
we were say eight eleven or seven and ten right now,
would we leave Colorado for their best interest, for their safety,
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for their health. That's the issue, Dan says, a texture,
we have an eighteen month and another on the way.
Our family roots run too deep to leave. Somebody has
to stay and fight it out, otherwise it'll never get better.
Completely respect that attitude, particularly as a guy who I
think I've proven on air over the years willing to
risk and endure a lot to fight the good fight.
(11:38):
But I'm sure it's the same for our texture as
it is for every sane person out there. Your children
come first, and the best interest of the child comes first. Now,
our text is in the best position to determine how
to strike all those balances for his or her family
and their children. But if our kids were that young
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age right now in a Colorado being overrun with high
potency marijuana, a Colorado run by the Left in such
a way that crimes exploding, all these other threats are exploding,
The danger of death on the roadways is exploding, all
because of the Left, you know, And in our situation,
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we're blessed because I have a good, steady paycheck and
Amy had a great paycheck for a lot of years
that you have. You know, we can afford to put
our kids in a school where they can get a
competitive education. But for a lot of parents who are
very hard working people. Colorado is also a state where
you know, you're so often stuck in government run education
(12:44):
because the Left doesn't want you to have true school choice. Now,
some of that government run education is really good, but
a lot of it's really bad. Fred and Elizabeth, you're
on the Dane Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Yes, that's a real tough issue with this, the shoplifting.
You I want to see him go to jail, But
how do you do that? You know, are you going
to tell your employees to stop them? And if the
employee gets hurt or if the shoplifter gets hurt, you
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wind up with a lawsuit. So then you say, okay,
well we'll how to security. Well, how many do you
need and how much you're going to pay? You know,
a guy steals a two hundred dollars drill that really
costs home depot one hundred dollars. But you've got a
guard that you're paying two hundred dollars a day, and
are they armed. If they are, you've got to pay
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a higher insurance premium in case stand up escalating a
situation and somebody gets shot. It's unfortunately, it's cheaper to
let him steal it than to suffer the repercussions of
a lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, Fred, you laid that out really well. I think
called Douglas County scene is you got to report you
just within four days, you got to call the county.
You got to report it. I don't think. I don't
know if the law says this, but you should let
the county look at the video and let the county
do what it can do.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Well, Yeah, they're so busy do they really have time
a couple of days later to track somebody down. I
saw a guy walk out of a store the other
day and it was fishy, and I followed them and
they got in a car with no license plate. So
I call the Parker Police and the guys. We're not
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going to chase them because the chances are they'll speed up,
and if there's an accident somebody gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is it worth Yeah, No, it wouldn't be worth the
chasing you did the right thing. Thank you for that.
But what George Brockler the DA was telling us at
four thirty six was no, in Douglas County, they will respond,
And I completely believe that. I mean, not every county
is created equally, and in Douglas County and it's not
the only great county, but in Douglas County, you know
that they they have the resource, they have a lot
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of good people in place. They pride themselves on low crime,
and one of the reasons they have low crime is
they want the reputation. You commit crime in Douglas County,
you're going to stay in Douglas County, but not where
you want to be staying.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I agree with that. I mean, Jaron Wakeley is a
great guy. He's a friend of mine. George Barkler's a
great friend of mine. But here's the problem. Remember, it
doesn't apply in the towns so Castle Parker, at least
that's what the paper report today.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah. No, I think that's right.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Incorporated area. Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah? And my understanding from George on the show is
that it's really aimed at these big national chains and
I don't know whether they're disproportionately in the in the
unincorporated areas. But Fred, I get all of your concerns,
and I hope no employee out there tries to stop
a shoplifter, but I don't want him fired if they do.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
No, I concur man. I mean you and I are
on the same page. I'm just saying, yeah, clear economics.
A lot of these big box says, hey, it's a
price to do the business.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Sorry, but I'll tell you, and I'd love to know
from you, Fred, if I haven't had this happen. But
if I'm standing there and somebody's grabbing something off the
shelf and running out the door. Dependent on the circumstances,
and I'm not recommending this for anybody else, I might
stop them, or i'd have to. I'd have to evaluate
the whole circumstance obviously, who's around, what other danger, everything else.
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But I'm sure for you and me and everybody listening,
the instinct would be to stop them, because I think
God creates us with this powerful sense of right and
wrong and justice, and I think just instinctively you'd want
to stop them.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Well, we all want to stop them. But I'm not
a young man, and what if the guy flies is
a knife but if you know, what if they what
if they shoot you? I mean, these are the things
you don't know. If we live today that has too
much senseless violence and people are hesitant to step out
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because of the personal risk.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh no, I hear you a name man, great call,
really logical call. And I know this goes without saying,
but for all of my fellow concealed carry folks, yeah,
there would be no justification for using a firearm in
those circumstances. A clear bright line, not over property, not
over property only you know, very very very serious imminent
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risk of death or serious bodily injury. And even then
you got to be really really careful, depending upon which
county you are in. So anyway, I want to get back.
I don't want to cheat a caller here by going
to call shortly before we pop this break. But if
you just joined us, thank You've got some great calls
coming in. On two different things. One is, if your
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kids are young, are you thinking of moving outside of
Colorado because of how the Left is making this state
so much more dangerous for kids? Or like the text,
are you saying no, somebody's got to stock stay here
and fight and separately shoplifters new ordnance in Douglas County.
Do you think that stores should face criminal punishment if
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they do not report, They're not required to stop them,
but if they do not even report shoplifters to law enforcement.
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You're listening to the Dan Caplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Wow five point thirty six. Glad you are here, just
looking at this breaking news on the US seizing an
oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela. Reportedly a very
large tanker carrying sanctioned oil from Venezuela to ron. So
we'll keep you posted on that story. I know we
have some text today as well, just talking about President's Trump,
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president Trump's actions with regard to Venezuela, et cetera. Big
picture there three or three someone three eight two five
five the number text d an five seven seven three nine.
Big picture is I think what you have with President
Trump is you have a man in a hurry, and
he's a man in a hurry to use the power.
He has to use this window. And it's a small window,
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a short window four years, but it's in many ways
really two because then of the kind of the lame
duck phase after that, which doesn't affect his commander in
chief capability. But he's in a hurry and there's a
lot he wants to get done. He's had a lot
of time to think about it before his second term,
and the he just wants to clean up as much
as he can around the world without a war, as
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much as he can to help protect this nation before
the next presidency because he knows it could be a Democrat.
We hope not for the good of the country in
the world, but it could be. And he's just trying
to get as much done as he can. And I
really do respect that, and I understand people can debate
this particular tactic or that tactic, but he is a
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man in a hurry to make America safer and I
do appreciate that. Hey, one of the things we're kicking
around this afternoon is if you have young kids right now,
are you thinking about leaving Colorado? Because how the Left
has made this state so much more dangerous from them
growing up, everything from just Kraklean everywhere, to more dangerous roads,
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to more crime, etc. And then a second issue, not
really related, but crime component that is Douglas County. This
interesting ordinance they just kicked in that makes it illegal
for stores in the unincorporated part to fail to report
shoplifters law enforcements. So they're not saying you have to
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stop shoplifters or detain them or any of that. You
just have to report it to law enforcement within four days.
Because Douglas County concerned that wrong messages being sent to
shoplifters and it's going to cause more of it out there.
So what are your thoughts on those two? We'll get
to some text and then back to the phone lines. Dan,
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I have called stores and told them I won't come
in until they tell vagrants to get away from the
front door. The stores tell me to call the cops myself.
Dan infuriate the left goo hyperbolics say gas prices are
going down, Trump is seizing oil tankers. A lot of
different thoughts. There no question gas price is going down.
I think Americans see and appreciate that. And the opposite
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of what we had with Biden. Dan, I told Walgreen's
employees when I saw thieves walking out with stuff, the
employees didn't even look up. They say they can't do anything.
Then they take my money for what I and that's
a beautiful thing. Is are we ever going to reach
the point short of some kind of world calamity where
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normal people just decide, Okay, I'm not going to pay either,
I'm just going to walk out. No, I don't think
we are. I think there is very close to zero
danger that non criminals are going to just all of
a sudden decide, well, they're allowing it, so I'm just
going to take something. No, because I think, yeah, you
have that deter In fact, you have some people or
(21:58):
don't do it because they're afraid they'll caught. But the vast, vast,
vast majority of people don't do it because it's wrong.
And yeah, because it may be informed by their faith,
just their their basic sense of virtue and right and wrong,
but they don't do it because it is wrong. Maybe
I'm wrong on that. And maybe with more and more
stores going to hey, we don't even care, take what
you want, We're not going to report it, do you
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think more normal people start doing it? I just can't
see that. And we all know if that does start
to happen, then changes the math for the store. They're
going to change their approach and they are going to
start hiring more security, reporting it more often, et cetera.
Let's see, Dan, I like what ISLM does steal? Get
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your hand cut off? I don't think that's what's happening
in most places. I hope it is not. And don't
get me wrong, Hey, I think shoplifting is. You need
to come up with a better term. They're just thieves,
they're just criminals. The term shoplifting seems to somehow discount
it pun intent. No, I think it should be punished
(23:02):
more severely. This goes back to part of what I
was talking about yesterday. We need to reimagine, as the
woke would say, we need to reimagine incarceration because we
think of jails in terms of where have you spent time? Ryan,
I'm just trying to see if he's listening, because he's
now Ryan is heroic back there? Well, oh it is?
Speaker 5 (23:23):
It is?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Did that go out on air? Ryan was describing the
type of storm that's going on back there right now,
and that was not fur There's some bodily functions yet
we're wrestling with some tech issues. But that Ryan has
not been in jail. I just threw that out there.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
No, let me get us attention closest I ever got
Dan was spring Break nineteen ninety seven South Beach, Miami
area of Florida, and I was legal. I was, you
know what, twenty two going on twenty three at that time,
trying to get into a club. And there were police
right outside and they like kind of whisked me away
(24:00):
in line like a stop post. Not even joking, so
that's not a real idea, Like what are you talking about.
It was a Michigan, Ida and I'm in Florida and they're, oh, yeah,
spring breaker, right, and I'm they almost put in the
back of the squad car, and I didn't know what
to do.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
In that moment. What what I got?
Speaker 8 (24:15):
I got a credit card, I got other forms of identification.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Then they saw that they go, okay, wait a minute,
you have for jerks to me, what are you doing? Yes,
you got no street credit like those of us who've
done some hard time. Yes, yeah, I should have got
a tap. That's where I missed the opportunity. Now this
was I do give serious consideration to whether this is
my guardian angel saving me for Amy. And because this
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was back in Boulder college years out on a date,
it went great, really interested in this very nice young
lady and driving home and all of a sudden, a
couple of cars all this and that, and it was
apparently an unpaid ticket like maybe a eating ticket or something,
straight to jail and they made her walk home and
(25:05):
so dat. So yeah, this is Boulder. I couldn't tell
you the year, but I could figure it out if
I had to. Somewhere in their late seventies maybe, but yeah.
So not an ideal end of the day, but worked
out great because I ended up being saved for my wife,
who I wouldn't trade for anything. And uh but yeah,
(25:27):
off to jail, took the bell, took the shoelaces, everything else.
You get thrown in jail because of an unpaid ticket
in Bolder, Yeah, quite the experience. Now. I mean, I
don't know about Boulder, but most places you couldn't find
your way into jail unless there were how many bodies? Right?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Crazy times crazy, But I made sure I paid my
tickets after that on time three oh three seven three
eight two five five five seven seven three nine. Dan,
I agree with reporting shop lifting. I want the stats.
I want to know if we're I'm moving is safer
than where I am. So what I think is it's
more about the stats. I certainly don't want employees trying
(26:07):
to stop it, but I do think they should be
the first ones to down nine one one. Yeah. No,
I don't want employees trying to stop it either. I
just don't want them fired if they do try to
stop it. I can't imagine there's a business out there
right now that encourages employees to stop it. I think
if there is, unless we're talking about professional security obviously,
(26:28):
but I would be opposed to any business in it
right now encouraging or requiring employees to try to stop it.
I do think it's a little bit crazy that some
of these, some of the big national chains don't have
fully armed security in there, if nothing else, just to
deter to deter the threat of a mass shooter. And
I know that's a long shot, but it's a small
(26:51):
chance of something catastrophic. And the other thing is to
deter shoplifters, just the deterrent value of having an arm
guid there. Ryan, we spent so much time on air,
got the King Supers over on Holly and Orchard King
five and it's my normal King Supers, right, and I
think it was I wasn't in there today, but very
(27:11):
very often when I'm in there now, they have very
obvious armed security.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Same at mine in Greenwood Village. I think we're talking
about the same one. Well, Yosemite is when I oh.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yosemite, Yeah, I go to that one too sometimes. Yeah,
which makes perfect sense, and my guess is it works
out from dollar wise. I also think the customers deserve it,
because the customers shouldn't have to pay for the shoplifters,
and the customers should have that additional protection against the
small chance of some kind of shooter in there. Totally.
(27:43):
I feel safer with the security guard in there.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
I feel better about my shopping experience knowing that that
security guard is there.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yees.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So if you looked at the balance sheets of all
these national chains, they could certainly afford to do it,
and my guess is that they'd come out on the
last end in the end, you and I certainly would
because we wouldn't have to be paying for these shoplifters.
Three or three someone three eight two five five texts
d An five seven seven three nine. If your kids
are young, have you given a thought to leaving Colorado
(28:14):
because of what the left is doing? If your kids
are older as ours are now would you leave now
if they were still that age? You're on the Dan
Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And now back to the Dankapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm broadcasting out of our Denver studio today and just
heart a spot here for a doctor Paul Couldrelly. And
that's wild because he has worked on both of our
children's eyes and done a fantastic job. So nice to
hear that spot on the show. Three on three seven
one three eight two five five. The number text d
A N five seven seven three nine. We'll get right
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back to the phone lines here. Lots of text as
we talk about these dueling topics, both of them fascinating.
Should stores be required by law to report shoplifts? Douglas
County now requiring that? And are you thinking about moving
out of Colorado if you have young kids because of
what the Left is doing to the state, which is
making it a whole lot more dangerous for kids. We'll
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start with John. You're on the Dankaplis.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
She'll welcome Hi, Dnne and say hello to your wonderful wife.
I proably remember her as an anchor and miss her
being an a Oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
She was tremendous I ran into somebody yesterday who actually
saw me proposed to her on air. Oh and I thought, wow, yeah,
I glad somebody was watching.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I have one question for you, this reporting shoplifting. How
are they going to know whether you were really reported
or not?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
That is brilliant, my friend. Let's think that one through.
So if the law that says you have to report it,
they don't, I think it would. They would only find
out if it was reported by some other witness, right
a citizen or an employee.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
And if they don't report it, he said, there's a fine.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, I think it's up to one thousand bucks. And
this is in the unincorporated part of Douglas. We had
George Brockler and with us at four thirty six. It
sounds like this is aimed at some of the big
national chains. Another way they might find out is if
they then bust the person they bust that that criminal
in connection with something else, and then all of this
comes out as as part of you know, the investigation,
(30:37):
a plea deal, et cetera. But as George explained the
idea behind the ordinance, it's not like George was behind
this and said got the impression he may not even
support it, but but I think the idea here is
to just empower these these corporate chains with with what
they need, to convince the people who are calling the
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shots to just put reporting into their protocol. I think
that's the gist of this ordinance.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Well, sometimes I look at it and see it's a
way of them generating revenue. Yeah, and just like with this,
Denver's wastewater tax is ridiculous. It's the same time we're.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Having some technical issues here. John very much appreciate the call.
I don't think this one is a revenue deal because
I doubt it will be enforced often at all. So
it's not one of those things that I think could
produce a lot of revenue for the county. Andrew, you're
on the dan Kaplas. You'll welcome.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Hi. Just a funny story from about forty years ago.
My brother Beck in Pennsylvania was assistant manager of a
jewelry store and he was in his young early twenties,
and you know, they usually only put a few items
out for the customer to look. So the customer stole
a watch. So my brother was like, oh, you want
to give me that watch that you took, and he
(32:06):
pretended he didn't have it. So my brother, without saying anything,
just walked to the front door and just locked the door.
So the guy was now locked into the jewelry store. Wow,
he suddenly remembered that he had stolen the watch and
gave it to my brother.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Ah, your brother's pretty gutsy.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Well, yeah, I guess back in the day it would
be a little different than it is now things are
a little more normal. But yeah, he just locked the
door and wow, you know the guy was now locked in,
so he had.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
To That is a great tactic. Thank you for that. Wow. Ryan,
who do we have on line too? It's like the
old Frasier show right with their screen down. You sure
it's not Michael Bennett. And we just got the promo
for tomorrow we're going to be talking about is it
an automatic disqualifier for Michael Bennett? The guy's running for
governor of Colorado. He just did a one to eighty
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and now supports redistricting in Colorado to take away Republican
congresstional seats. That should be I mean, there are so
many things that disqualifies Bennett, but that should be automatic,
no matter which side of the aisle. You're on Michael
in Bennett. You're on the Dan Caplis. You'll welcome.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Thank you for pronouncing that correctly because normally exees me
about being Michael Bennett.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I was wondering with this theft that's going on, Dan,
and I think George Blocker would be one of the
guys that could promote this, and that would be just
put a AI in these stores. You have security program
that boughts your your theft through camera and then nowadays
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they're going to start having a remote control robotic security
within the store. But nevertheless, you could use this as
a database throughout the stores, whether you're King super Safe
or anywhere, and if they've been spotted with theft, or
they could actually watch you come in the store and
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notify the police that you're there and that you've stole
you know, within other stores in other districts.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh great thinking, and it's part of the excitement of
thinking what AI might bring that don't have to be
our last call today. Obviously with AI, you know we've
got the two sides of the ledger. There are going
to be a whole lot of jobs lost. I think
far more jobs than we realize right now. Lost because
of AI. On the other hand, it's going to make
I think a lot of life easier and cheaper and
(34:33):
safer and in some ways better. And then overhanging all that, okay,
is AI going to destroy the world? But what a
time to be alive. Ryan, thank you so much for
all that you do, including fighting these tech battles today
back there, and Doug. Grateful for your time today as well.
Please do be careful out there. Three or three seven, one, three, eight,
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two five five write it down. We want to hear
from you tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show.
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