December 15, 2025 • 36 mins
President Trump takes a portion of a national press conference to address the Tina Peters situation, and call out Governor Jared Polis for his complete mishandling of her case and Colorado on the whole.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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blessing to live in interesting times and beautiful spring day
for it, maybe a summer day. Glad you're here. If
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you're in Colorado right now, you know what I'm talking about.
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
the number text d an five seven to seventh three nine.
Absolutely glorious out there, though even more glorious would be
about a foot of snow in the mountains and something
down here right for Christmas Eve. What an interesting day.
Glad you are here. And we've got to start out
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with a second of sports, don't we, Because that Bronco
game yesterday it felt like a playoff game. And yeah,
it's all coming together. They are everything we've been talking about,
greatest ownership group in the NFL and in that team
on the field right now. Yeah, there's no reason they
can't win a Super Bowl. So fun times ahead for
a long time to come. It just all depends on health. Right,
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you saw it with Green Bay and Michael Parsons going down.
That's not the reason the Broncos won the game. They
were winning at that point. But I just need to
hopefully keep this team healthy. And then President Trump's reaction
today to Rob Reiner, to the apparently brutal, tortuous murder
of Rob Reiner, apparently by his own son. You know,
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we're going to get into the President's reaction to that
and get your take on or die my own theory
as to why President Trump said the things that he
said the way that he said him because normally, I
mean normally, we don't speak ill of the debt, right,
because they can't defend themselves. So why did President Trump
say the things he said? I have a theory that
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goes beyond the obvious?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Do you remember when that really nice guy from Carbondale
called the show and suggested we change the name of
the show to beyond the Obvious, which I took as
one of the great compliments ever. A big, big over
our question today and for many days to come until
Polis finally commutes the sentence of Tina Peters, as I'm
predicting he will at some point, is how much harm
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is Polis going to be willing to have inflicted on
the state of Colorado so that he can continue to
jail a seventy year old a seventy year old woman,
no prior criminal history, a crime I believe she committed
a crime and was properly charged and convicted, but a
crime without a victim, and a woman who I don't
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think any honest person would dispute the fact that the
reason she's still incarcerated is because of her speech. She
committed a crime, should have been charged, and my opinion,
should have been convicted, but then incarceration and for how
long is a different story. And the governor who's been
so willing to step in and free like a mass
killing trucker things like that to please the laft Yah,
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I think you can be very certain that he would
have done something with Tina peter sentence if it wasn't
for her speech. Now I happen to disagree with what
she says in her speech. I don't believe it's been
proven that twenty twenty election was stolen, but it doesn't
change the fact that that I believe the reason she's
incarcerated right now is because of her speech, and I
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think that's that's a terrible thing. Three O three sevene
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I put it on Polis because Polis has stepped in before,
and certainly if you're going to step in, you step
in first seventy year old woman under the circumstances I've
talked about. But she is unwilling to say that that
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the election was not stolen. And so I think that's
the reason that Polis and the rest of the left
are willing to leave her in there, no matter how
much negative it brings the state of Colorado. And President
Trump today unleash she on Polish Polish, pardon me. We'll
have that sound for you shortly. But so clearly there's
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going to be more negative to come for the States.
So we'll talk about that. And maybe you think Trump's
wrong to be saying those things about polists and doing
the things. He's already initiated the investigation through the Attorney
General's Office of the Colorado Department of Corrections and Prison Conditions, etc.
Other investigations as well, and we can be sure when
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it comes to discretionary federal funds running through the White House,
that Colorado is not going to be getting a Christmas card.
A whole lot more going on in the world I
want to dive into as well. Ryan, what do you
make of this own? It's such a horrible thing, this
murder of Rob Reiner. Listen, Obviously I'm at the end
opposite end of the political scale from Rob Reiner. He
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said some horrific things about President Trump, some horrific things
that were provably false, very untrue, and just full of
spite and venom. But he's still an innocent person and
who was brutally slaughtered. Feel horrible about that. Was his
wife killed as well? Correct? Yeah? By their son? Oh
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can you imagine the horror for both of them. But
apparently he had battled drugs for years. In fact, they
had made a movie together, not about him, but kind
of about him. Yeah. Yeah, man, those drugs are they
just destroy.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, you know, I've dealt with it when my father
with alcohol addiction, and it takes a person wanting to
get better themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You can never heal them from without.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
That must start from within, that process to.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Seek and accept help.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And it seems like there was no shortage of that
effort from Rob Reiner and his wife to provide that
for their son, Nick, just thirty two years old. And Dan,
I'm not sure with your brother, did he suffer from
substance abuse problems or just.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Ans and we were so fortunate that way. It was yeah,
now very severely disabling mental illness. But yeah, he didn't
get into the drugs. And that's the difference, right Ryan,
because I mean, and you talk about alcoholism, which is
inflicted so much harm in this country, but with alcoholism
you don't very often get the psychotic breaks you get
with drug use. That's correct drug use, including Krakawana, you know,
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the marijuana and then the dramatically amped up marijuana that
they hook them young with and hook them forever. You know,
used to be cheach and shown marijuana did all that
harm at two to four percent THHC leaf and now
these drug dealers have cranked it up to eighty eighty
five ninety ninety five percent potency, you know, in order
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to hook these kids for life. But that's where you get, right,
that's where you get the psychotic breaks. So that's where
you get the hallucinations, the delusions, and you get so
many of these horrific crimes. Not that people haven't committed
some crimes while drunk before, but you get these really
horrific crimes when you've got people under the influence. But yeah,
we were very very fortunate that way, and we've been
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very blessed, you know, in terms of our kids that way,
being able to thank God avoid that. I know plenty
of families man best parents you could imagine, And some
of them are parents who don't make much money at all.
Some of them are parents who make a lot of money.
Doesn't matter. You can be the best parent in the world.
And in this drug infused, glorified culture that Jared Polus
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in the left have built in Colorado, it's everywhere for
these kids. So the best parent in the world, you're
still gonna have an awful lot of kids, kids with
great family situations, kids with terrible family situations who are
going to fall prey to it. And that's another topic
for us today, a big one, which is President Trump,
who has done so many historically great things on the
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verge of a historically large mistake. And Laura Ingram speaks
to that as well.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Get you You'll get it.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Getty.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I like to sit down and enjoy and nice joined
at the end of a workday. Oh lovely.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Well, we heard this might be coming, but we hoped
we were wrong. We're hearing that President Trump, who is
notoriously anti smoking and anti drugs, is set to reclassify
marijuana as a less dangerous drug and federal rules and
that this could happen as soon as Monday.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Now.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
I know a lot of cool tech bros and pot
growers and banks and the cannabis lobby. They're feeling pretty.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
High right now.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
But further normalizing weed use is a horrible idea. Marijuana's
currently classified as a Schedule one drug, which puts it
on the same level as heroin and LSD and has
a high potential for abuse. But what the administration is
set to do would categorize it alongside steroids or tile
and all with codeine. Here with me is Kevin Sabbat,
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president and CEO of Smart Approaches to.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Me, and Sabbat does a great job. We've had them
on the show. We will again. So why do you
think President Trump is doing this? We'd love to get
your take on it. And you know, I expect a
bunch of calls and text oh D and I told
you I don't support Trump this and that. Listen. It's
like everything in life. It's like my wife with me.
You know, you take the good with the bad, and
thank goodness, she does. And it's the same with the president.
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You know, you take the good with the bad, and
this would be very, very bad and a self inflicted wound.
The problem is the wound's going to be inflicted on
other people, not this president. He has been and it's
one of the keys to his success. He has been
so anti drug in his own life, in his family's life,
he has been so anti alcohol, and it has served him,
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it has served his family extraordinarily well. And so I
just wish he would I just wish he would not
make this enormous mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
What do you think the external forces are, yeah, that
are pushing him that direction.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I can't even think of who that would be. Yeah. See,
I was going to ask you that, And I'd love
to know what folks are thinking. Three of three seven
one three eight two five five d A N five
seven seven three nine. So you know who's going to
benefit right now? Right who's going to benefit? And now
by reducing the schedule three, what you do is you
just guarantee that a lot more kids are gonna do dope.
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You guarantee that a lot more kids are going to
suffer all the different ways the kids are suffering right
now from dope, you know, from lost futures, lack of
motivation to increase, dramatically increased suicide rates, all the way,
dope ways, Dope ERTs kids. You know you're gonna end
up with more dead bodies on the roadway. You know
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you're gonna have all of these additional harms, and you're
gonna have it because reducing the Schedule three, while it
doesn't legalize it, it vastly fuels the so called legal
marijuana industry because right now they're going to be able
to deduct normal business expenses. So right off the bat,
you're talking about infusing these drug dealers with enormous amounts
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of cash. Yeah, yeah, very sad thing in a just
this massive step toward overall legalization. So ya, why do
you think he's doing it? We'll come back get your
take on that. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, So, how much harm are polists in the left
willing to have inflicted on Colorado in order to keep
a seventy year old in prison three out three seven
one three eight two five five texts DA N five
seven seven three nine and listen. I think Tina Peters
committed a crime. I think she should have been charged.
I think she was rightfully convicted. I know there are
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many good people who disagree with me on that, and
if you think I'm missing something, I'm happy to have
that conversation. As you know this this is the most
open door in Colorado. We take out all comers, and
the people who disagree we send the limo for him.
But with that said, I do not believe she should
be incarcerated. And it's ironic, isn't it. The left so
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opposed to incarceration in general, opposed to incarceration for many
of the hardest core criminals out there. You heard Phil Wiser,
the Attorney General, talk about, yeah, if somebody steals a
car maybe I'm paraphrasing, maybe three or four in three months,
then then yeah, we should keep them in. But they're
going to keep in this seven year old woman who
I believe committed a crime, but there was no victim,
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and I personally believe the reason Polis leaves her in
jail like this and celebrates it along with the Left.
Is because of her speech, not the crime, because she
refuses to say that the election was fairly decided. Hey,
I don't believe she's proved the election was stolen. I
don't believe anybody's proven that. So I disagree with what
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she's saying. But she has a constitutional right to say it.
Polish shouldn't keep her in jail over it. Anyway. President
Trump's some very direct words about Governor Polis just a
short time ago.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
The poorly run state of Colorado with a governor who's
incompetence and frankly, with a governor that won't allow our
wonderful Tina to come out of a jail, in a
high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on an election,
and they said she was cheating.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
She went over she looked at one of the election
scams going on, and because she did that, they put
her in jail for nine years.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
The governor of Colorado.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Is a weak and pathetic man who was run by
Trenda Arragua.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
The criminals from.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Venezuela took over sections of Colorado and he was afraid
to do hernything.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But he puts Tina in jail for.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
Nine years because she caught people cheating, and when she
walked over and got involved in it, they said she
was cheered.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
She caught people cheating on the election twenty twenty, along
with a lot of other people that cheated on that election.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You'll see that coming out more and more.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, a couple of things there that the bigger point is,
obviously President Trump very focused on this. Obviously, the investigation
of the Colorado prison system that DOJ's pursuing is tied
to the President's focus on Colorado. We're going to see
I think many other negative consequences for Colorado, all legal
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within the President's purview because of this mistreatment of Tina Peters.
And it is mistreatment to keep her incarcerated at this
point and to not give a relief from a nine
year sentence. Even though I disagree with much of what
the President said, I believe she did commit a crime.
I don't think that she has proven through the information
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obtained through this crime, that the election was stolen. Listen,
you just can't. You cannot give unauthorized access to people
too sensitive election equipment. You can't do it. You can't
use somebody else's credentials to get somebody in for unauthorized
access to take pictures of software and election Hi. I
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can't do that, and she shouldn't have done it. But
she shouldn't be in jail for nine years, and she
shouldn't be sitting in the kind of cell she's sitting in. Now.
That's pure politics from the left that has gone overboard
to to free hardened criminals from incarceration, including a mass
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killing trucker who became a celebrity on the left because
of Kim Kardashian. Yeah, so that's what's going on. And
I think at this point, policies willing to have the
people of Colorado suffer a great deal so he can
keep her buying bars. I stand by my belief that
he will eventually commute that sentence because he will conclude
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that it's in his best interest politically. Ryan right now,
he's probably believing that this attention from the President is
very good for him in his effort to figure out
where the heck to go in politics after his term
as governor ends, right, because he's term limited and unless
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he's betting on Bennett winning the governor's race and then
appointing him to finish Bennett's term. He has nowhere to go.
I think he's a smart enough guy to know that
he's going to be dead in the water in the
presidential race, but maybe hoping to angle for a VP
or cabinet slot shot a DEM win. M So he's
probably right now, at least for a while, selfishly enjoying
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this attention from the President.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, bad publicity is better than none, although in the
case of Governor Polis, I'm not sure that Rogelle Aguilera Maderos.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Was beneficial to him.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
He was appropriately skewer not only on this program, Dad,
but My nine News Kyle Clark, Marshall Zellinger peppering him
over did you have a phone call with Kim Kardashian thrice?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Kyle Clark asked it three times.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He dodged it well, which is admitting it happened, right,
But he's not man enough to step up and just
say yes. So anyway, we'll continue to take calls and
text on that I did want to get you what
I had promised. The President's Trump regarding Rob Reiner, who
apparently and his wife just brutally murdered, perhaps tortured by
their son. And so here's what President Trump had to say.
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I want to get your take after the break on
whether you think this was this was a mistake by
the president to say these things. Donald Trump posted. President
Trump posted A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood.
Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but once very talented
movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with
his wife Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused
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others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a
mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred
to as TDS. He was known to have driven people
crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump,
with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump
administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with
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the Golden Age of America upon us perhaps like never before.
May Rob and Michelle rest in peace. So what do
you think about that post? We'll come back to that
after the break, and then now listen to the backstory
for this obviously is Reiner was absolutely vicious and said
many many things about President Trump that were just flat
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on troop, many things that were personally vicious and venomous.
But did the President go too far with this tweet?
So want to get your take on that three or
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Dan Capla show.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Lines in Fuego as our tech. So let's fire away.
We'll start with David and Colorado Springs. I want to
tell you about a text I got from a family
member out of state as well on the issue of
President Trump and why is he about to make this
big mistake of downgrading marijuana to a schedule three David
fire away. My friends are on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
So Dan, you're talking about Tina again, and I'm curious
why you feel like she's definitely guilty. She deserves what
she got, you know, let's talk about her actual trial.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
David, whoa big fella. Well appreciate the call, but no,
you began to say she deserved what she got. I've
never said that. I've spent countless hours on air saying
she should not be in prison, she should not have
a nine year sentence, Polish should release her. Separate issue.
I think she's clearly guilty as hell on the underlying
criminal offense, and I think people lose credibility when they
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try to claim she's not guilty. But the idea of
incurs like this, I think is just fundamentally unjustin I
think she's being incarcerated for her constitutionally protected speech. But
what am I missing here? And listen, I'm wide open
to the fact maybe I'm missing something. My understanding of
what came down here, and correct me if I'm wrong,
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is that Tina Peters gave access to a secure election
room and secure election equipment to somebody who was unauthorized.
In order to do that, she had this person use
somebody else's ID, and then the cameras were turned off
while that unauthorized person was in the room photographing the
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software and the hardware, photographs that were then publicly released
prosecuted by a Republican prosecutor convicted by a jury in
Mason County. Am I off on this somehow.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Somewhat because first off, she was set up on this deal,
and if she did she set her up in the trial.
I don't recall. Yeah, because you say you're you say
you're open to anyone. Yeah, I strongly encourage you to
speak with Joel and at least about this deep into it,
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along with another gentleman named Mark Cook.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The Actually, I will.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Talk to anybody who has facts that proved me wrong,
because above all, I have, for thirty years on air
or however long it's been, it's been a relentless search
for the truth. So if somebody has facts that proved
me wrong, I am wide open to it, my friend.
But this seems to be very straightforward that a crime
was committed, but the sentence is outrageously long, and that
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that Polish should commute it right now.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
The sentence is wrong, for sure, But I questioned the
crime still.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
But also let's.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Look back at the actual machine and why she did it.
Because if you go back on the election machine and
the cheating going on, and I agree, because there's a
lot of proofs out there, you say, there's not the
flip side. It goes back to two thousand and four
in Venezuela in terms of the CIA.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
May I updated a little bit, David, since we have
gem lines. Was there any information obtained through Tina Peters
actions that prove that the election was stolen or that
votes were changed.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I don't know there's there was any specific groups on that.
I'm not as Nosville and some but Dan our elections
in the state of Colorado. I know your pro life,
there are pro life and in the fact that twenty
eighteen or whenever that election was so that those are
they manipulate the outcome, then the machines and mail in
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ballots they take it the way they want. I can
care that's about Colorado and President Trump. It's more of
the bigger picture and focus we're.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
David appreciate the call. I would love for you to
be right. I would love for the truth to be
that the reason we've been getting thumped in statewide races
is some sort of rigged voting machines. I would love
for that to be true. I have not seen any
evidence to suggest that true, and I think we are
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deluding ourselves if we sit here and say, oh, the
reason we're losing in these races is because they're rigging
the machines. We've got to be honest about why we're
losing so we can stop losing because the Left is
destroying the state. Brad in Highland's ranch, You're on the
Dan Kaplos Show. With that said, listen if you just
joined the show. My whole point, the reason I'm even
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doing this topic is I don't think Tina Peters should
be in jail any longer. And I think the only
reason Polis is in commuting her sentence is because of
the things she says. Brad, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Hey, I just want to have you had a chance
to look up the appeal that's going to be presented
before the three judges in the Appella's Court on the
fourteenth of January. Have you had a chance to pull
it up and take a look at it?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
No, what I have pulled up. I've pulled up the
federal Habeas Corpus pleadings, but I have not seen interesting too, Yeah,
which refer to the Colorado Repellate pleadings.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Correct. So if you go to Tinapeters dot.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
Us, if you go down to the bottom, you can
find the file, and it's the second file.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I urge you to read it.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
It's a really great document, well put together. Listen, we
don't know the reason why and that's that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
With this jury.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I think the jury came to the right verdict because
they were they were given all the right information to
come to that verdict. There were information that was withheld
from the jury that is very important to this story.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Hey, can you because does the does he? And I
had called Tina Peters attorney a long long time ago.
I wanted him on air, never got a call back,
and he's always welcome on the show. I see he's
doing other interviews. But but do any of the facts.
Are these facts intended to justify the actions that would
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otherwise be criminal, because my understanding is the core facts
are not in dispute that she gave access to a
secure election system.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
To why does she do it?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Well, that's my put. Okay, that's you know who?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Do you know who? Colin?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I'm just asking, okay, And I've got to say, I've
got a simple question on the table for you, which
is a question. I just posed these additional facts you
want me to see, which I'm happy to and I
will do these facts go to an excuse a justification
for doing what would otherwise be criminal. Absolutely, Okay, that's
I just wanted to understand. Okay, So the defense is the.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Gentleman who got the bad stand. Okay, if you just
do you mind or do you need to talk? I
let you go.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
No, but I'm yeah, I'm not gonna have you do
that to me. So if you want to have a
respectful back and forth, we'll have a respectul back and forth.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
I just want to try to get a point if
I can get a few sentences out real quick, and
I'll be very brief. Colin Hayes is a gentleman who
got the badge. Okay, he was also an informant for
the FBI. That is something that is new in the
court documents. These are things that the judge would not
allow to be presented. The guy who got the badge
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never got press prosecuted, never got charges.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Nothing ever happened to the gentleman. Well, what the bat?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well the stuff for a second, brad Well, The reason
it didn't happen is because the guy who got the
badge didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You mean that he went into the system without security?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No, no, no, let's make sure he didn't do anything wrong.
Let's make sure we're talking about the same thing here.
When you say the guy who got the badge. Are
you talking about Gerald Would who the badge was originally
issued to, because it was issued to him properly. Gerald
Would didn't do anything wrong, as I understand the facts.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Conan Hayes that no one wants to talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, So we're in agreement that gerald Would did not
do anything wrong wrong right that Keena Peters had a
badge issue to gerald Would.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Under federal law, if you have someone who is a
federal informant or a federal person giving federal evidence to
the to the FBI, you can't expose them.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's law.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
She could be just as much trouble by exposing a
federal informant as she would be. So the reason the
cameras were off was to protect the federal informant. He
just informed on the MOB. It's all in the court filings.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So was he working for the FBI when he came in?
I'm sorry, is the claim that he was working for
the FBI when he came in?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Those are the questions we needed answer?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
No, no, no, no, Brad, I'm asking you, is it your
under says.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
In an APPID David. In an APPID, David turned over
to the lawyer that the judge refused to review that.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
He was, Okay, so what you're telling us, and I'll
be very anxious to read these pleadings, sure, is that
the individual who was allowed to use the badge in
somebody else's name. So the individual who was not authorized
to enter the room was working for the FBI at
the time.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right so she okay, well, the IC department to do it.
She asked for the IT department. They said no.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
So when Mason County IT said no, it puts her
in a unique corner. Her job under state law and
federal is to preserve She's fine.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
All so, I just want the record to be clear
as I have to hit this break right now. You're
telling us the guy that the badge was given to,
not in his name, was working for the FBI at
the time.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That's what he told her.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, all right, well, I'll read whatever Brad wants me
to read. But right now, what appears to be undisputed
is that she gave unauthorized access to somebody using the
badge for somebody else and had the video cameras turned
off while this unauthorized access occurred. You're on the Dan
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Caplas show.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
President of Trump this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
The poorly run state of Colorado with a governor who's
incompetent and frankly, with a governor that won't allow our
wonderful Tina to come out of a jail, in a
high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on an election,
and they said she was cheating.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
She went over, she looked at one of the election
scams going on, and because she did that, they put
her in jail for nine years.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
The governor of Colorado.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Is a weak and pathetic man who was run by
Trenda Arragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections of
Colorado and he was afraid to do anything.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
But he puts Tina in jail.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
For nine years because she got people cheating and when
she walked over and got involved in it, they said
she was cheered.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
She caught people cheating on the election twenty twenty, along
with a lot of other people that cheated on that election.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
You'll see that coming out more and more.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, the presidents, You're right that Polish should not be
keeping Tina Peters in jail. He should commute that sentence,
just as he stepped in to unimaginably save the mass
killer Trucker who became a cause of Kim Kardashian and
the left. Tina Peters. I believe she did commit a crime,
and I believe she was rightfully convicted, But this ongoing
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incarceration is fundamentally unjust. And I believe Polis leaves her
in there because of her speech, not because of her crime,
because she insists the election was stolen and refuses to
stop saying that. I disagree with her on that. I
haven't seen proof the election was stolen, but she has
a First Amendment right to say that, and she shouldn't
be in jail. Three oh three seven one three eight
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two five five text d A N five seven seven
three nine. President Trump today tweeting about the horrific brutal
killing of Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle, apparently by
their son who'd been battling UH the demon of drug addiction,
and the President's sad in part. I read it at
(31:22):
length earlier. I'll just read you an operative phraser. Two.
Rob Reiner a tortured and struggling but once very talented
movie director and comedy stars passed away together with his wife, Michelle,
reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive,
unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known
(31:43):
as Trump derangement syndrome. He was known to have driven
people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump.
And then it ends with May Rob and Michelle rest
in peace. Listen. Trump has been historically great. We're blessed
to have had him as present. But this is wrong.
This is just flat wrong. If you disagree with me,
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we'll send the limo for you. I'd love to have
that conversation. I understand Rob Ryner lied about the president.
He said horrifically venomous, unfair things about the president, but
the man and his wife are just brutally murdered. I
just think that tweet was wrong. Uh, Dan, We've got
(32:24):
so many texts on this. I'll wait. I because I
am told that we have Eerie Mike with us, which
is always a cause for great celebration. Eerie welcome back. Hey, thanks, Lyle,
appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I kind of agree with the president.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I think Rob Royner had a coming.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I'm sorry to hear that. I think you're wrong to
believe that.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, I sure did. I mean he was he was terrible,
he had TDS, and you deserve to be I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Think so I've got to disagree with you on that.
I do. That's just not.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm I'm being facetious. Uh hell uh.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Trump is a piece of.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Crap, That's all I can say.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Anybody who would think this, the level of maturity here
is supported is a piece of craft.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So you're like Benjamin, but you've gone back to kindergarten
at this point, Mike, I mean can't know.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm just I'm stating that what my opinion is that
he's a useless piece of craft.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's like my mom always told.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Me, who would say that.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I never I'll never forget swearing around her And she
just said, hey, that's a sign of ignorance. You're a capitalist.
You're better at swear crap. Crap crap is a swear word,
same family, but just a younger cousin. Let me let me,
let me let that said.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
He's a piece of He's a piece of cecies.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
How's that I think it is? I do think do
you think it's better round. Let me retry scientific, let
me rect is it is less pjority.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Attracted that he's a piece he's a piece of CC.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Is there any explanation you want to attach to that?
Or is this just kind of a name calling?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You read the quote, I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here
looking at.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
The quote you read, Well, what about those who would
say this?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Be supportive of somebody who would say that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Now we're getting somewhere intellectuals. So, but your point then
is I should not continue to support President Trump in
office because of this tweet.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
No, you asked the audience, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
If I called and I gave you my opinion, yeah,
which was a waste of everybody's time. But then you
went on to say something interesting, which is gets now wrong.
It's it's now wrong to support President Trump in office
because he did something wrong? Is that the premise? Well, well,
that's a yes or no.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
This is only this is this is well, this is one.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Of anything talked about earlier. Let's talk about this one.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
He lied about what happened with Well, let's talk about
but I didn't a liar.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I think it's do you think we can do a
little gofund me there for decaf for Mike. Decaff will
be a caf Okay, start, Yeah, And I'd love to
have every now and then Mike calls and we have
a truly adult conversation where we disagree about certain things
and reason it through. Now the concept might introduced, which
is okay, because President Trump did something wrong here, I
(35:34):
think everyone would agree this tweet was wrong. Because President
Trump did something wrong, you shouldn't support him anymore. I'd
love to have that conversation because obviously, if that's going
to be the standard, nobody can support anybody. But no,
it's like everything else in life. You take the good
with the bad, and the good from President Trump overwhelms
the bad exponentially, over and over again. We've been blessed
(35:56):
and fortunate to have Trump as president twice, but every
now and then and he's going to do something wrong.
The other thing he's about to do wrong is reduce
marijuana to Schedule three. That will be a disaster. Here
on The Dan Kapla Show,
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. It is a
blessing to live in interesting times and beautiful spring day
for it, maybe a summer day. Glad you're here. If
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you're in Colorado right now, you know what I'm talking about.
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
the number text d an five seven to seventh three nine.
Absolutely glorious out there, though even more glorious would be
about a foot of snow in the mountains and something
down here right for Christmas Eve. What an interesting day.
Glad you are here. And we've got to start out
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with a second of sports, don't we, Because that Bronco
game yesterday it felt like a playoff game. And yeah,
it's all coming together. They are everything we've been talking about,
greatest ownership group in the NFL and in that team
on the field right now. Yeah, there's no reason they
can't win a Super Bowl. So fun times ahead for
a long time to come. It just all depends on health. Right,
(01:04):
you saw it with Green Bay and Michael Parsons going down.
That's not the reason the Broncos won the game. They
were winning at that point. But I just need to
hopefully keep this team healthy. And then President Trump's reaction
today to Rob Reiner, to the apparently brutal, tortuous murder
of Rob Reiner, apparently by his own son. You know,
(01:25):
we're going to get into the President's reaction to that
and get your take on or die my own theory
as to why President Trump said the things that he
said the way that he said him because normally, I
mean normally, we don't speak ill of the debt, right,
because they can't defend themselves. So why did President Trump
say the things he said? I have a theory that
(01:46):
goes beyond the obvious?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Do you remember when that really nice guy from Carbondale
called the show and suggested we change the name of
the show to beyond the Obvious, which I took as
one of the great compliments ever. A big, big over
our question today and for many days to come until
Polis finally commutes the sentence of Tina Peters, as I'm
predicting he will at some point, is how much harm
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is Polis going to be willing to have inflicted on
the state of Colorado so that he can continue to
jail a seventy year old a seventy year old woman,
no prior criminal history, a crime I believe she committed
a crime and was properly charged and convicted, but a
crime without a victim, and a woman who I don't
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think any honest person would dispute the fact that the
reason she's still incarcerated is because of her speech. She
committed a crime, should have been charged, and my opinion,
should have been convicted, but then incarceration and for how
long is a different story. And the governor who's been
so willing to step in and free like a mass
killing trucker things like that to please the laft Yah,
(02:57):
I think you can be very certain that he would
have done something with Tina peter sentence if it wasn't
for her speech. Now I happen to disagree with what
she says in her speech. I don't believe it's been
proven that twenty twenty election was stolen, but it doesn't
change the fact that that I believe the reason she's
incarcerated right now is because of her speech, and I
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think that's that's a terrible thing. Three O three sevene
three eight two five five the number text d A
N five seven seven three nine. And when I say that,
I put it on Polis because Polis has stepped in before,
and certainly if you're going to step in, you step
in first seventy year old woman under the circumstances I've
talked about. But she is unwilling to say that that
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the election was not stolen. And so I think that's
the reason that Polis and the rest of the left
are willing to leave her in there, no matter how
much negative it brings the state of Colorado. And President
Trump today unleash she on Polish Polish, pardon me. We'll
have that sound for you shortly. But so clearly there's
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going to be more negative to come for the States.
So we'll talk about that. And maybe you think Trump's
wrong to be saying those things about polists and doing
the things. He's already initiated the investigation through the Attorney
General's Office of the Colorado Department of Corrections and Prison Conditions, etc.
Other investigations as well, and we can be sure when
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it comes to discretionary federal funds running through the White House,
that Colorado is not going to be getting a Christmas card.
A whole lot more going on in the world I
want to dive into as well. Ryan, what do you
make of this own? It's such a horrible thing, this
murder of Rob Reiner. Listen, Obviously I'm at the end
opposite end of the political scale from Rob Reiner. He
(04:46):
said some horrific things about President Trump, some horrific things
that were provably false, very untrue, and just full of
spite and venom. But he's still an innocent person and
who was brutally slaughtered. Feel horrible about that. Was his
wife killed as well? Correct? Yeah? By their son? Oh
(05:07):
can you imagine the horror for both of them. But
apparently he had battled drugs for years. In fact, they
had made a movie together, not about him, but kind
of about him. Yeah. Yeah, man, those drugs are they
just destroy.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, you know, I've dealt with it when my father
with alcohol addiction, and it takes a person wanting to
get better themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You can never heal them from without.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
That must start from within, that process to.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Seek and accept help.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And it seems like there was no shortage of that
effort from Rob Reiner and his wife to provide that
for their son, Nick, just thirty two years old. And Dan,
I'm not sure with your brother, did he suffer from
substance abuse problems or just.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Ans and we were so fortunate that way. It was yeah,
now very severely disabling mental illness. But yeah, he didn't
get into the drugs. And that's the difference, right Ryan,
because I mean, and you talk about alcoholism, which is
inflicted so much harm in this country, but with alcoholism
you don't very often get the psychotic breaks you get
with drug use. That's correct drug use, including Krakawana, you know,
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the marijuana and then the dramatically amped up marijuana that
they hook them young with and hook them forever. You know,
used to be cheach and shown marijuana did all that
harm at two to four percent THHC leaf and now
these drug dealers have cranked it up to eighty eighty
five ninety ninety five percent potency, you know, in order
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to hook these kids for life. But that's where you get, right,
that's where you get the psychotic breaks. So that's where
you get the hallucinations, the delusions, and you get so
many of these horrific crimes. Not that people haven't committed
some crimes while drunk before, but you get these really
horrific crimes when you've got people under the influence. But yeah,
we were very very fortunate that way, and we've been
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very blessed, you know, in terms of our kids that way,
being able to thank God avoid that. I know plenty
of families man best parents you could imagine, And some
of them are parents who don't make much money at all.
Some of them are parents who make a lot of money.
Doesn't matter. You can be the best parent in the world.
And in this drug infused, glorified culture that Jared Polus
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in the left have built in Colorado, it's everywhere for
these kids. So the best parent in the world, you're
still gonna have an awful lot of kids, kids with
great family situations, kids with terrible family situations who are
going to fall prey to it. And that's another topic
for us today, a big one, which is President Trump,
who has done so many historically great things on the
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verge of a historically large mistake. And Laura Ingram speaks
to that as well.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Get you You'll get it.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Getty.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I like to sit down and enjoy and nice joined
at the end of a workday. Oh lovely.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Well, we heard this might be coming, but we hoped
we were wrong. We're hearing that President Trump, who is
notoriously anti smoking and anti drugs, is set to reclassify
marijuana as a less dangerous drug and federal rules and
that this could happen as soon as Monday.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Now.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
I know a lot of cool tech bros and pot
growers and banks and the cannabis lobby. They're feeling pretty.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
High right now.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
But further normalizing weed use is a horrible idea. Marijuana's
currently classified as a Schedule one drug, which puts it
on the same level as heroin and LSD and has
a high potential for abuse. But what the administration is
set to do would categorize it alongside steroids or tile
and all with codeine. Here with me is Kevin Sabbat,
(08:47):
president and CEO of Smart Approaches to.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Me, and Sabbat does a great job. We've had them
on the show. We will again. So why do you
think President Trump is doing this? We'd love to get
your take on it. And you know, I expect a
bunch of calls and text oh D and I told
you I don't support Trump this and that. Listen. It's
like everything in life. It's like my wife with me.
You know, you take the good with the bad, and
thank goodness, she does. And it's the same with the president.
(09:11):
You know, you take the good with the bad, and
this would be very, very bad and a self inflicted wound.
The problem is the wound's going to be inflicted on
other people, not this president. He has been and it's
one of the keys to his success. He has been
so anti drug in his own life, in his family's life,
he has been so anti alcohol, and it has served him,
(09:31):
it has served his family extraordinarily well. And so I
just wish he would I just wish he would not
make this enormous mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
What do you think the external forces are, yeah, that
are pushing him that direction.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I can't even think of who that would be. Yeah. See,
I was going to ask you that, And I'd love
to know what folks are thinking. Three of three seven
one three eight two five five d A N five
seven seven three nine. So you know who's going to
benefit right now? Right who's going to benefit? And now
by reducing the schedule three, what you do is you
just guarantee that a lot more kids are gonna do dope.
(10:06):
You guarantee that a lot more kids are going to
suffer all the different ways the kids are suffering right
now from dope, you know, from lost futures, lack of
motivation to increase, dramatically increased suicide rates, all the way,
dope ways, Dope ERTs kids. You know you're gonna end
up with more dead bodies on the roadway. You know
(10:28):
you're gonna have all of these additional harms, and you're
gonna have it because reducing the Schedule three, while it
doesn't legalize it, it vastly fuels the so called legal
marijuana industry because right now they're going to be able
to deduct normal business expenses. So right off the bat,
you're talking about infusing these drug dealers with enormous amounts
(10:50):
of cash. Yeah, yeah, very sad thing in a just
this massive step toward overall legalization. So ya, why do
you think he's doing it? We'll come back get your
take on that. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, So, how much harm are polists in the left
willing to have inflicted on Colorado in order to keep
a seventy year old in prison three out three seven
one three eight two five five texts DA N five
seven seven three nine and listen. I think Tina Peters
committed a crime. I think she should have been charged.
I think she was rightfully convicted. I know there are
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many good people who disagree with me on that, and
if you think I'm missing something, I'm happy to have
that conversation. As you know this this is the most
open door in Colorado. We take out all comers, and
the people who disagree we send the limo for him.
But with that said, I do not believe she should
be incarcerated. And it's ironic, isn't it. The left so
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opposed to incarceration in general, opposed to incarceration for many
of the hardest core criminals out there. You heard Phil Wiser,
the Attorney General, talk about, yeah, if somebody steals a
car maybe I'm paraphrasing, maybe three or four in three months,
then then yeah, we should keep them in. But they're
going to keep in this seven year old woman who
I believe committed a crime, but there was no victim,
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and I personally believe the reason Polis leaves her in
jail like this and celebrates it along with the Left.
Is because of her speech, not the crime, because she
refuses to say that the election was fairly decided. Hey,
I don't believe she's proved the election was stolen. I
don't believe anybody's proven that. So I disagree with what
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she's saying. But she has a constitutional right to say it.
Polish shouldn't keep her in jail over it. Anyway. President
Trump's some very direct words about Governor Polis just a
short time ago.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
The poorly run state of Colorado with a governor who's
incompetence and frankly, with a governor that won't allow our
wonderful Tina to come out of a jail, in a
high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on an election,
and they said she was cheating.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
She went over she looked at one of the election
scams going on, and because she did that, they put
her in jail for nine years.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
The governor of Colorado.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Is a weak and pathetic man who was run by
Trenda Arragua.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
The criminals from.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Venezuela took over sections of Colorado and he was afraid
to do hernything.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But he puts Tina in jail for.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
Nine years because she caught people cheating, and when she
walked over and got involved in it, they said she
was cheered.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
She caught people cheating on the election twenty twenty, along
with a lot of other people that cheated on that election.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You'll see that coming out more and more.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, a couple of things there that the bigger point is,
obviously President Trump very focused on this. Obviously, the investigation
of the Colorado prison system that DOJ's pursuing is tied
to the President's focus on Colorado. We're going to see
I think many other negative consequences for Colorado, all legal
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within the President's purview because of this mistreatment of Tina Peters.
And it is mistreatment to keep her incarcerated at this
point and to not give a relief from a nine
year sentence. Even though I disagree with much of what
the President said, I believe she did commit a crime.
I don't think that she has proven through the information
(14:35):
obtained through this crime, that the election was stolen. Listen,
you just can't. You cannot give unauthorized access to people
too sensitive election equipment. You can't do it. You can't
use somebody else's credentials to get somebody in for unauthorized
access to take pictures of software and election Hi. I
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can't do that, and she shouldn't have done it. But
she shouldn't be in jail for nine years, and she
shouldn't be sitting in the kind of cell she's sitting in. Now.
That's pure politics from the left that has gone overboard
to to free hardened criminals from incarceration, including a mass
(15:20):
killing trucker who became a celebrity on the left because
of Kim Kardashian. Yeah, so that's what's going on. And
I think at this point, policies willing to have the
people of Colorado suffer a great deal so he can
keep her buying bars. I stand by my belief that
he will eventually commute that sentence because he will conclude
(15:43):
that it's in his best interest politically. Ryan right now,
he's probably believing that this attention from the President is
very good for him in his effort to figure out
where the heck to go in politics after his term
as governor ends, right, because he's term limited and unless
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he's betting on Bennett winning the governor's race and then
appointing him to finish Bennett's term. He has nowhere to go.
I think he's a smart enough guy to know that
he's going to be dead in the water in the
presidential race, but maybe hoping to angle for a VP
or cabinet slot shot a DEM win. M So he's
probably right now, at least for a while, selfishly enjoying
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this attention from the President.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, bad publicity is better than none, although in the
case of Governor Polis, I'm not sure that Rogelle Aguilera Maderos.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Was beneficial to him.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
He was appropriately skewer not only on this program, Dad,
but My nine News Kyle Clark, Marshall Zellinger peppering him
over did you have a phone call with Kim Kardashian thrice?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Kyle Clark asked it three times.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He dodged it well, which is admitting it happened, right,
But he's not man enough to step up and just
say yes. So anyway, we'll continue to take calls and
text on that I did want to get you what
I had promised. The President's Trump regarding Rob Reiner, who
apparently and his wife just brutally murdered, perhaps tortured by
their son. And so here's what President Trump had to say.
(17:16):
I want to get your take after the break on
whether you think this was this was a mistake by
the president to say these things. Donald Trump posted. President
Trump posted A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood.
Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but once very talented
movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with
his wife Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused
(17:38):
others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a
mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred
to as TDS. He was known to have driven people
crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump,
with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump
administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with
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the Golden Age of America upon us perhaps like never before.
May Rob and Michelle rest in peace. So what do
you think about that post? We'll come back to that
after the break, and then now listen to the backstory
for this obviously is Reiner was absolutely vicious and said
many many things about President Trump that were just flat
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on troop, many things that were personally vicious and venomous.
But did the President go too far with this tweet?
So want to get your take on that three or
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Dan Capla show.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Lines in Fuego as our tech. So let's fire away.
We'll start with David and Colorado Springs. I want to
tell you about a text I got from a family
member out of state as well on the issue of
President Trump and why is he about to make this
big mistake of downgrading marijuana to a schedule three David
fire away. My friends are on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
So Dan, you're talking about Tina again, and I'm curious
why you feel like she's definitely guilty. She deserves what
she got, you know, let's talk about her actual trial.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
David, whoa big fella. Well appreciate the call, but no,
you began to say she deserved what she got. I've
never said that. I've spent countless hours on air saying
she should not be in prison, she should not have
a nine year sentence, Polish should release her. Separate issue.
I think she's clearly guilty as hell on the underlying
criminal offense, and I think people lose credibility when they
(19:56):
try to claim she's not guilty. But the idea of
incurs like this, I think is just fundamentally unjustin I
think she's being incarcerated for her constitutionally protected speech. But
what am I missing here? And listen, I'm wide open
to the fact maybe I'm missing something. My understanding of
what came down here, and correct me if I'm wrong,
(20:16):
is that Tina Peters gave access to a secure election
room and secure election equipment to somebody who was unauthorized.
In order to do that, she had this person use
somebody else's ID, and then the cameras were turned off
while that unauthorized person was in the room photographing the
(20:39):
software and the hardware, photographs that were then publicly released
prosecuted by a Republican prosecutor convicted by a jury in
Mason County. Am I off on this somehow.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Somewhat because first off, she was set up on this deal,
and if she did she set her up in the trial.
I don't recall. Yeah, because you say you're you say
you're open to anyone. Yeah, I strongly encourage you to
speak with Joel and at least about this deep into it,
(21:14):
along with another gentleman named Mark Cook.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The Actually, I will.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Talk to anybody who has facts that proved me wrong,
because above all, I have, for thirty years on air
or however long it's been, it's been a relentless search
for the truth. So if somebody has facts that proved
me wrong, I am wide open to it, my friend.
But this seems to be very straightforward that a crime
was committed, but the sentence is outrageously long, and that
(21:43):
that Polish should commute it right now.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
The sentence is wrong, for sure, But I questioned the
crime still.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
But also let's.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Look back at the actual machine and why she did it.
Because if you go back on the election machine and
the cheating going on, and I agree, because there's a
lot of proofs out there, you say, there's not the
flip side. It goes back to two thousand and four
in Venezuela in terms of the CIA.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
May I updated a little bit, David, since we have
gem lines. Was there any information obtained through Tina Peters
actions that prove that the election was stolen or that
votes were changed.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I don't know there's there was any specific groups on that.
I'm not as Nosville and some but Dan our elections
in the state of Colorado. I know your pro life,
there are pro life and in the fact that twenty
eighteen or whenever that election was so that those are
they manipulate the outcome, then the machines and mail in
(22:52):
ballots they take it the way they want. I can
care that's about Colorado and President Trump. It's more of
the bigger picture and focus we're.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
David appreciate the call. I would love for you to
be right. I would love for the truth to be
that the reason we've been getting thumped in statewide races
is some sort of rigged voting machines. I would love
for that to be true. I have not seen any
evidence to suggest that true, and I think we are
(23:23):
deluding ourselves if we sit here and say, oh, the
reason we're losing in these races is because they're rigging
the machines. We've got to be honest about why we're
losing so we can stop losing because the Left is
destroying the state. Brad in Highland's ranch, You're on the
Dan Kaplos Show. With that said, listen if you just
joined the show. My whole point, the reason I'm even
(23:43):
doing this topic is I don't think Tina Peters should
be in jail any longer. And I think the only
reason Polis is in commuting her sentence is because of
the things she says. Brad, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Hey, I just want to have you had a chance
to look up the appeal that's going to be presented
before the three judges in the Appella's Court on the
fourteenth of January. Have you had a chance to pull
it up and take a look at it?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
No, what I have pulled up. I've pulled up the
federal Habeas Corpus pleadings, but I have not seen interesting too, Yeah,
which refer to the Colorado Repellate pleadings.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Correct. So if you go to Tinapeters dot.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
Us, if you go down to the bottom, you can
find the file, and it's the second file.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I urge you to read it.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
It's a really great document, well put together. Listen, we
don't know the reason why and that's that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
With this jury.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I think the jury came to the right verdict because
they were they were given all the right information to
come to that verdict. There were information that was withheld
from the jury that is very important to this story.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Hey, can you because does the does he? And I
had called Tina Peters attorney a long long time ago.
I wanted him on air, never got a call back,
and he's always welcome on the show. I see he's
doing other interviews. But but do any of the facts.
Are these facts intended to justify the actions that would
(25:12):
otherwise be criminal, because my understanding is the core facts
are not in dispute that she gave access to a
secure election system.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
To why does she do it?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Well, that's my put. Okay, that's you know who?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Do you know who? Colin?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I'm just asking, okay, And I've got to say, I've
got a simple question on the table for you, which
is a question. I just posed these additional facts you
want me to see, which I'm happy to and I
will do these facts go to an excuse a justification
for doing what would otherwise be criminal. Absolutely, Okay, that's
I just wanted to understand. Okay, So the defense is the.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Gentleman who got the bad stand. Okay, if you just
do you mind or do you need to talk? I
let you go.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
No, but I'm yeah, I'm not gonna have you do
that to me. So if you want to have a
respectful back and forth, we'll have a respectul back and forth.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
I just want to try to get a point if
I can get a few sentences out real quick, and
I'll be very brief. Colin Hayes is a gentleman who
got the badge. Okay, he was also an informant for
the FBI. That is something that is new in the
court documents. These are things that the judge would not
allow to be presented. The guy who got the badge
(26:28):
never got press prosecuted, never got charges.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Nothing ever happened to the gentleman. Well, what the bat?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well the stuff for a second, brad Well, The reason
it didn't happen is because the guy who got the
badge didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You mean that he went into the system without security?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No, no, no, let's make sure he didn't do anything wrong.
Let's make sure we're talking about the same thing here.
When you say the guy who got the badge. Are
you talking about Gerald Would who the badge was originally
issued to, because it was issued to him properly. Gerald
Would didn't do anything wrong, as I understand the facts.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Conan Hayes that no one wants to talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, So we're in agreement that gerald Would did not
do anything wrong wrong right that Keena Peters had a
badge issue to gerald Would.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Under federal law, if you have someone who is a
federal informant or a federal person giving federal evidence to
the to the FBI, you can't expose them.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's law.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
She could be just as much trouble by exposing a
federal informant as she would be. So the reason the
cameras were off was to protect the federal informant. He
just informed on the MOB. It's all in the court filings.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So was he working for the FBI when he came in?
I'm sorry, is the claim that he was working for
the FBI when he came in?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Those are the questions we needed answer?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
No, no, no, no, Brad, I'm asking you, is it your
under says.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
In an APPID David. In an APPID, David turned over
to the lawyer that the judge refused to review that.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
He was, Okay, so what you're telling us, and I'll
be very anxious to read these pleadings, sure, is that
the individual who was allowed to use the badge in
somebody else's name. So the individual who was not authorized
to enter the room was working for the FBI at
the time.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right so she okay, well, the IC department to do it.
She asked for the IT department. They said no.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
So when Mason County IT said no, it puts her
in a unique corner. Her job under state law and
federal is to preserve She's fine.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
All so, I just want the record to be clear
as I have to hit this break right now. You're
telling us the guy that the badge was given to,
not in his name, was working for the FBI at
the time.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That's what he told her.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, all right, well, I'll read whatever Brad wants me
to read. But right now, what appears to be undisputed
is that she gave unauthorized access to somebody using the
badge for somebody else and had the video cameras turned
off while this unauthorized access occurred. You're on the Dan
(29:05):
Caplas show.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
President of Trump this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
The poorly run state of Colorado with a governor who's
incompetent and frankly, with a governor that won't allow our
wonderful Tina to come out of a jail, in a
high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on an election,
and they said she was cheating.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
She went over, she looked at one of the election
scams going on, and because she did that, they put
her in jail for nine years.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
The governor of Colorado.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Is a weak and pathetic man who was run by
Trenda Arragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections of
Colorado and he was afraid to do anything.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
But he puts Tina in jail.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
For nine years because she got people cheating and when
she walked over and got involved in it, they said
she was cheered.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
She wasn't cheating.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
She caught people cheating on the election twenty twenty, along
with a lot of other people that cheated on that election.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
You'll see that coming out more and more.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, the presidents, You're right that Polish should not be
keeping Tina Peters in jail. He should commute that sentence,
just as he stepped in to unimaginably save the mass
killer Trucker who became a cause of Kim Kardashian and
the left. Tina Peters. I believe she did commit a crime,
and I believe she was rightfully convicted, But this ongoing
(30:40):
incarceration is fundamentally unjust. And I believe Polis leaves her
in there because of her speech, not because of her crime,
because she insists the election was stolen and refuses to
stop saying that. I disagree with her on that. I
haven't seen proof the election was stolen, but she has
a First Amendment right to say that, and she shouldn't
be in jail. Three oh three seven one three eight
(31:01):
two five five text d A N five seven seven
three nine. President Trump today tweeting about the horrific brutal
killing of Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle, apparently by
their son who'd been battling UH the demon of drug addiction,
and the President's sad in part. I read it at
(31:22):
length earlier. I'll just read you an operative phraser. Two.
Rob Reiner a tortured and struggling but once very talented
movie director and comedy stars passed away together with his wife, Michelle,
reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive,
unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known
(31:43):
as Trump derangement syndrome. He was known to have driven
people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump.
And then it ends with May Rob and Michelle rest
in peace. Listen. Trump has been historically great. We're blessed
to have had him as present. But this is wrong.
This is just flat wrong. If you disagree with me,
(32:04):
we'll send the limo for you. I'd love to have
that conversation. I understand Rob Ryner lied about the president.
He said horrifically venomous, unfair things about the president, but
the man and his wife are just brutally murdered. I
just think that tweet was wrong. Uh, Dan, We've got
(32:24):
so many texts on this. I'll wait. I because I
am told that we have Eerie Mike with us, which
is always a cause for great celebration. Eerie welcome back. Hey, thanks, Lyle,
appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I kind of agree with the president.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I think Rob Royner had a coming.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I'm sorry to hear that. I think you're wrong to
believe that.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, I sure did. I mean he was he was terrible,
he had TDS, and you deserve to be I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Think so I've got to disagree with you on that.
I do. That's just not.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm I'm being facetious. Uh hell uh.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Trump is a piece of.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Crap, That's all I can say.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Anybody who would think this, the level of maturity here
is supported is a piece of craft.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So you're like Benjamin, but you've gone back to kindergarten
at this point, Mike, I mean can't know.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm just I'm stating that what my opinion is that
he's a useless piece of craft.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's like my mom always told.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Me, who would say that.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I never I'll never forget swearing around her And she
just said, hey, that's a sign of ignorance. You're a capitalist.
You're better at swear crap. Crap crap is a swear word,
same family, but just a younger cousin. Let me let me,
let me let that said.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
He's a piece of He's a piece of cecies.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
How's that I think it is? I do think do
you think it's better round. Let me retry scientific, let
me rect is it is less pjority.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Attracted that he's a piece he's a piece of CC.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Is there any explanation you want to attach to that?
Or is this just kind of a name calling?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You read the quote, I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here
looking at.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
The quote you read, Well, what about those who would
say this?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Be supportive of somebody who would say that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Now we're getting somewhere intellectuals. So, but your point then
is I should not continue to support President Trump in
office because of this tweet.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
No, you asked the audience, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
If I called and I gave you my opinion, yeah,
which was a waste of everybody's time. But then you
went on to say something interesting, which is gets now wrong.
It's it's now wrong to support President Trump in office
because he did something wrong? Is that the premise? Well, well,
that's a yes or no.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
This is only this is this is well, this is one.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Of anything talked about earlier. Let's talk about this one.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
He lied about what happened with Well, let's talk about
but I didn't a liar.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I think it's do you think we can do a
little gofund me there for decaf for Mike. Decaff will
be a caf Okay, start, Yeah, And I'd love to
have every now and then Mike calls and we have
a truly adult conversation where we disagree about certain things
and reason it through. Now the concept might introduced, which
is okay, because President Trump did something wrong here, I
(35:34):
think everyone would agree this tweet was wrong. Because President
Trump did something wrong, you shouldn't support him anymore. I'd
love to have that conversation because obviously, if that's going
to be the standard, nobody can support anybody. But no,
it's like everything else in life. You take the good
with the bad, and the good from President Trump overwhelms
the bad exponentially, over and over again. We've been blessed
(35:56):
and fortunate to have Trump as president twice, but every
now and then and he's going to do something wrong.
The other thing he's about to do wrong is reduce
marijuana to Schedule three. That will be a disaster. Here
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