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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh yeah, another beautiful day to fight for the American way.
Glad you are here. Kind of a bonus show for me.
I have not been planning on this one, but as
you know, we have an all star cast of folks
who sit down on this show when I'm gone. And
the person who is going to do the show today
must have that super bug because he's about the toughest
ombre you'll ever meet, and he is down with that bug.

(00:20):
So I hope it doesn't get you, so I get
a bonus show with you. So thank you for that time,
and thank you to Jesse Thomas and Shannon Scott for
making this work on short notice. And I won't regale
you with this whole history. It's such a rich history
with eight fifty KOA, our sister station, and these great
engineers that KOA is attracted over the years, and so

(00:43):
it's the legacy of Kenny Dana known as the Wizard,
and others. So the way they're able to get like
Jesse does Rockies and Shannon does Broncos and see You,
et cetera, and the way they're able to keep these
broadcasts on air against all sorts of challenges is amazing
to me. They were able to pull this one together quickly.
I'm down in Florida. I mentioned you. We come down

(01:04):
here every year right after Christmas. My mom and dad
are buried here, the kids, we all have great memories
here from as long back as we can remember. You're
warmer than we are right now if you're listening to
this show in Colorado. But it's still fantastic to be
here and just get away, and you know how it
is to go back to, you know, places where the
family is vacation together for years. So pull this show

(01:25):
together at the last minute thanks to the great work
of Jesse Thomas and Shannon Scott. So let's have some
fun with it. Three oh three seven one, three eight
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seven three nine. I have a lot of things I
want to kick around with you. It's so different now, though,
when I started doing this show decades ago, because back
in the day, we get into this Christmas season and Christmas,

(01:48):
New Year's Hanukkah and then everything's light, right, you keep
it light. But the twenty four to seven news cycle
now it never rests, and so so many serious things
going on. We'll do all that, but I also want
to do addictions for twenty twenty six something. Yeah, not
to be a jerk, but I'm particularly good at and
have a long history of so spoiler alert when I

(02:09):
give you my predictions, it's going to take a lot
of the suspense out of twenty twenty six. But that's
my job and I'm going to do it. I want
to talk to you about Colorado Person of the Year.
See where you come down on that. It can be
good or bad. We kind of mirror the Time magazine thing,
so it can be somebody great, somebody awful, but who
had the biggest impact. I want to get your predictions

(02:29):
on the twenty twenty six election cycle. A lot of
people think there's no real suspense in Colorado, that everything's
decided and if it has a blue jersey on, it's
going to win. If it has a red jersey on,
it's going to get buried. And maybe it comes down
that way except for some House and Senate seats. But
there's a real possibility for an upset here as well,
because the Democrats are so bad. I mean, they're candidates.

(02:53):
I mean, we talk ideology all the time, but their
candidates are just so incredibly weak. We've talked about for
a long time. The Conservatives are so many great Republican candidates,
and we've seen so many great Republican candidates in Colorado
get beat and then get beat by sizable margins like
nine to twelve points, sometimes bigger. And we're talking really good,

(03:16):
high quality GOP candidates. So this time, you know, we're
gonna have some real good candidates. And look at the Democrats,
my goodness, I mean truly ideology. Aside Michael Bennett, they're
likely goobnatorial nominee. Literally, nobody has ever done less with
more than Michael Bennett. I mean, I'm sure he's a

(03:36):
great father and husband and all that, but if you
talk about in office like professional responsibilities, seriously, can anybody
name somebody who's been a US Senator for even a
year or two who has done less than Michael Bennett
has done? And what's even in there one hundred years?
You know? So no, he really is. He's just a
political blob, but he is likely to be their nominee.

(04:00):
And then and then on the Senate side, thank god,
John Hickenlooper is still with US. I like the man,
but you'd need a milk carton to find out where
he's at. I mean, he does absolutely nothing. And with
both Bennett and Hickenlooper, you know, the hard left of
the Democratic Party in Colorado, which is where all the
energy is and most of the big money is nationally,

(04:23):
you know, they're not very happy with either of these guys,
certainly not the grassroots hard left in Colorado. So there's
an opening there. If we have GOP candidates in the
governor and senators race who can catch fire, there is
an opening there. So let me know what you're thinking.
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(04:45):
Some of the stuff nationally I really need to kick
around with you, especially because it can be brought back locally.
I'm convinced if somebody digs hard enough, you know, the fraud,
the Minnesota fraud story, hopefully is going to open a
lot of eyes, you know, to what the Democratic Party
has been up to nationally. And I would have to
believe that there's a fair amount of that going on

(05:06):
in Colorado. And I've done a lot of good, sometimes
great investigative work over the years on air. I haven't
done any on this, So I'm not trying to say hey,
look here, look there, and you're going to find fraud
in Colorado that's meant to aid the Democratic Party in Colorado.
I haven't looked into that. I don't know factually if
that's true in Colorado. My hunch is that it is,

(05:29):
and I'm hoping that somebody really digs in. Nationally, of course,
we can see it all over the place. The biggest
current example is what's going on up in Minnesota with
so many people from Somalia. Not an indictment of everybody
from Somalia, obviously, but so many people from Somalia involved
in so much massive fraud. And obviously you can see

(05:51):
how the Democratic Party is benefiting from that in lots
of different ways, not just money that backwashes then into
Democrat Party candidates, but closing their eyes to the fraud
on you know, an elected official level, you know, collecting
lion's share of samaland votes, et cetera. So yeah, let's

(06:11):
talk about that and talk about whether this is going
to be kind of a tipping point thing as we
head into the midterms. And you know me, I'm an
eternal optimist, but I am not at all optimistic about
the midterms. I do think that that we're going to
lose the House. GOP is going to lose the House
and the Senate. You know, I know the map sets
up pretty favorably, but I think the Senate's in real jeopardy.

(06:33):
Combination of you know, the normal off ear cycle stuff
which gets broken every now and then, but just the
pent up, just the pen up money, anger intensity on
the Democrat side because Trump beat him again, and not
only did he beat him again on election Day twenty four,
but he's had success after success after success, which I

(06:56):
don't believe is demoralizing the left. I think it creates
some converts among unaffiliated independents and some conservative Democrats, but
I don't think it's demoralizing the left to the point
they won't turn out. I think it's just making them
more determined, you know, to express their frustration and their
anger and the midterms. At the same time, you and

(07:17):
I we've both seen it forever. When President Trump is
not on the ballot, there are a lot of people
who do not show up to vote. There's just not
the same intensity. A lot of those people who shut
up for Trump in twenty four are not going to
show up in these midterms. In twenty six. I think
that's just the reality. So I think as we plan ahead,
there are so many reasons to be optimistic about twenty

(07:39):
twenty six in general, just as a nation, and a
lot of those traced back to the fact that Donald
Trump is our president and that there's so much he
will continue to accomplish without the ability to pass legislation.
And I know, I get it. Democrats. They win the
House again, which I think is likely, they're going to
impeach him again. Who can truly? At this point, all

(08:01):
the Democrats do when they impeach Trump is hurt themselves.
And so I don't think any of us should be
losing sleep about, Oh, they win the House, they're going
to impeach Trump? Truly, who cares? How many times have
they impeached him already? And he just keeps winning because
as we talk about at the time, each time there's
one of these bogus impeachments, you know, it just reveals
to the American Party, American people at the Democratic Party

(08:24):
has become and it's not the Democratic Party I grew
up in as a kid, or I cast my first
votes for when I turned eighteen. You know, it's a
secular far left radical operation at this point that is
so out of touch with even most Democrats. So each
of these bogus impeachments, just like all the phony criminal charges,

(08:47):
you know, all of that just boomeranged on the left,
and I think it will when they win the House,
and unfortunately, I think that's going to happen in November
of twenty six. But what do you think about Colorado
the governor's race. Who do you want the nomine to be?
Who do you think the nominee will be? We all
know it's going to be Michael Bennett on the dem side,
unless there's some shocking upset. I think Wiser's just hanging

(09:08):
in long enough to hopefully get a Senate appointment if
Bennett's elected governor. So we got a lot to do today.
Join us by text or phone. I'm gonna throwback. I
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You're on the Dan Kaplis show.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
The worry in terms of climate change, simply put, hasn't shifted.
It has not reached the majority of Americans. What are
we talking about? Greatly worried about climate change? You go
all the way back to nineteen hundred and eighty nine,
it was thirty five percent, two forty percent, twenty twenty
forty six percent, and in twenty twenty five, look at that,
it's forty percent, the same number as we had twenty
five years ago, back in twenty in two thousand and

(09:49):
then only just five points higher than we had back
in nineteen hundred and eighty nine. Really, we've just seen
consistency on this issue. The bottom line is that the
climate change message that folks who of course believe that
climate change is re and it is quite worrisome, simply put,
has not really worked with the American people. So greatly
worried you say greatly worried? I mean, so people say
they're greatly worried forty percent, But how worried?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Really?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Is it the biggest thing they're worried about? Yeah, it
is not anywhere close to being the biggest thing that
people are worried about. What are we talking about here? Well,
why don't we just talk about top issue facing the US?
Climate change? Well, I got some numbers for you on
the screen right here. You don't have to be a
mathematical genius to know that these numbers are not particularly high.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Top issue facing.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
United States climate change it was three percent and twenty
twenty one two percent in average of polls. In twenty
twenty three, and this year the average poles two one two.
It is very very low on the list of priorities.
I was trying to count it down the gallup pole,
and basically it was so low down, you know, I
was counting all the different issues, almost lost trackers like
fifteenth or twentieth. It was just very very low down.

(10:51):
So the bottom line is, not only are we seeing
that the number has not really moved over the last
thirty six years, but in terms of being the top issue,
it's simply put has not broken through two percent.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
There are just a ton of.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Things that rank way higher in the list of importance.
Even I can count the two in terms of how
people feel it will impact them directly, say.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, I'll just note two things.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Number one, your Harvard education paying off. But number two,
right here, look at this climate change effect on my
home area will be harder to stay here. Look in
twenty twenty three it was twenty three percent. Look at
where we are now seventeen percent. Now, you know, these
numbers are pretty comparable, but they're pretty comparable on the
low side is what we're talking about here as Americans,
simply put, just don't think we'll have the type of
impact that will really change their lives, which again goes

(11:35):
back to the message that Bill Gates was saying, right,
this is not something that's going to be devastating for humanity.
It's something we can work our way out of a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, thank you to Jesse Thomas Bick in the studio.
I'm remote today. I wanted to fire that because it
ties into seeing one of the topics today, which is
all the reasons to be optimistic about twenty twenty six.
And if you disagree with me, obviously we'll send the
limo three or three seven one three eight two five
five text DN five seven seven thirty nine. I've been

(12:04):
optimistic going into every year I can remember, but I
can't remember ever being this optimistic about a coming year.
And the climate change thing, it's more of an indicator
than it is and a core reason for optimism, but
it's another indicator that the American people have figured out
the modern Democratic Party. Now it's just a matter of

(12:25):
peeling away enough people who habitually vote Democrat, and I
understand you're never going to get the hard course, just
never going to get them. But there are and I
know this being a Democrat for so many years and
so many people in my extended family outside the state
or Democrat that they're good, reasonable, patriotic people who, as

(12:46):
they see what the modern Democratic Party has become enough
will peel away to really radically alter the political landscape.
I mean it's not theory, right. I mean we saw
it in sixteen with the election of Trump, we saw
it in twenty four with his second term. And this
is the direction we are going to head if the
GOP does its job right, because it's the reality of

(13:09):
the new owners and operators of the Democratic Party. They
are not like an awful lot of people who are
Democrats climate change. That's why I played that sound er
s Jesse too, because remarkably, and you may have your
own theory on why they've done this, but you talk
about these Colorado Democrats and they dress up their radicalism

(13:30):
better than Democrats in some other places. They do it tactically, obviously,
but you talk about it a hick and luperro Wiser,
all of them, Johnston, they worship at the altar of
climate change. The only bigger altar is abortion, and they
are absolutely chained to those altars. And they know that
they're wrong on abortion. They just know the wrong. Any

(13:51):
idiot knows who takes that pro abortion position, abortion through
up to labor and delivery. They just know that that's wrong,
the wrong basic morality. They know it's wrong medically, they
know it's wrong on every level, but they chain themselves
to it because if you want to be admitted to
the Democratic Party for the purpose of winning office, holding

(14:13):
any kind of real political power, then you have to
bend the knee at that altar. And then second to
that is this whole climate change business. But as you
just heard on CNN with Harriet and the American people
have seen the light look at climate change. It's such
a minuscule concern among many for the American people. Why
do you think the Democrats have chained themselves to it?

(14:36):
And one of the reasons I'm so optimistic is Americans
have rejected that. They see it for what it is.
It's always been a power played by the Democrats. They've
never really cared about actual climate change or its causes.
It's always been a tool to be able to take
control of people's lives, because hey, if you get everybody
to believe, hey, we're all about to die because of

(14:58):
the amount of green house gas emissions, then government can
take control under emergency powers or other justifications, or convince
the electorate to give the government massive, massive control over
the individual will Americans have rejected that they seen what's
really going on, and proof of that, I offer this
to you for any party you may be out on

(15:19):
New Year's Eve or anything else, any other opportunity for
you to get into a little debate with somebody about
man made climate change. If Democrats really believed that was
true and that climate change was going to destroy the world,
well the first thing they'd do is they stop supporting
legal marijuana because legal marijuana that industry is a greenhouse

(15:41):
gas monster. I mean, look it up. Compare it to coal,
you know, compare it to you know, the sources of
greenhouse gas emissions that you always have the left shooting at.
Legalized marijuana industry is a greenhouse gas gas emissions beast.
And if you just say to it at Polis or
anything else, well, then are you prepared to step up

(16:03):
and to post legalized marijuana in order to save the
world from the catastrophe that is man made global warming.
I'm parroting them facetiously. Well, Polis will run screaming the
other way, because no, they're not willing to give up
legalized marijuana. Because another First of all, the left's getting
a lot of money out all that. But for a

(16:25):
very long time, you know, page one, two or three
of the Left's playbook has been legalized drugs because the
Left knows that a drugged population is more dependent on government,
and when it gets dependent on government, is more likely
to vote Democrat. I mean, that's been their play for
a very very long time, and legal marijuana is a

(16:48):
huge step forward for them, a huge step backward for
the country, but a huge step forward for them because
under the guise of freedom of marijuana, that whole business,
they're getting a whole new generation addicted in much much
larger numbers, and you're gonna have many more people dependent
on government. And they're doing that in part by you know,
ramping up the potency of marijuana. You can't even call

(17:11):
it marijuana anymore. The old marijuana two to four percent
THCHC leaf did so much damage until Colorado made the
mistake in twenty twelve. There had never never been another
location in the world that had legalized marijuana in the
very dangerous way that Colorado did on election Day twenty twelve.
But then, of course, now you know, the potency with

(17:34):
the Left's approval and encouragement is ramped up now from
two to four percent to as high as eighty ninety
ninety five percent, you know, through these edibles and other products,
and so they hook them young, they hook them forever.
You know. The adults who use, not all, of course,
but many, you know, become more reliant, if not dependent,

(17:56):
more affected by the stuff. So yeah, I think the
American people are figuring out who the Democrats really are,
and I see in part it reflected in that polling
and global warming, all of which makes me very optimistic
for twenty twenty six and beyond. Now, does that mean
we're gonna win the midterms? No, for the reasons I
mentioned earlier, I think the midterms will go against the GOP.

(18:18):
It's a matter of controlling the margins. But then that
sets up another GOP term in the White House. In
twenty eighth, You're on the Dan Kaplis show, the Possession
for the Rams.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
What were you thinking Oh well, first of all, I
got I gotta give honor God. You know, I'm like
Jesus is put us through con diversity, but in this
moment right here, you got to give his ways. So
I gotta give all the gourd to him. And you know,
it's just so much beast to know that, you know,
God is in, is in control of his whole team,
control of all of us. So you know he's gonna
drives me. He draws us at the team, and I
gotta keep giving him raise on it on the field.

(18:52):
But yeah, I thought he taught the ball.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, beautiful, Thank you, Jesse Thomas. That was Bijon Robinson,
somebody I've never heard about before last night. And one
of these great things you know about Christmas vacation, that
sort of thing, is we're all together and my uncle
father Roger is here, the Catholic priest in Chicago, and
Joe and Caroline and Amy and the whole extended family,

(19:16):
and so you sit around and you watch whatever game's on.
And the game looked like a dog. It was the
Rams and Atlanta Falcons. But we're together. That's what matters.
You throw the game on. That's when I learned about
the guy you just heard from Bijon Robinson and he's
the best back I've seen all year. And then I
wanted to play that sound because it ties into my
theme of all the reasons to be optimistic about twenty

(19:38):
twenty six. And there are some big forces, some big
landscape shifting forces at work in America in the world
that all point too. I think some great things happening
next year. And one is the resurgence of religion, and
not just a number of people going to church, and
not just Catholics Christian Catholics, lots and lots of people

(20:01):
going back to church, going back to services, but very openly.
And it used to be Tim Tebow as kind of
the leader in that, and that was a beautiful time.
But now you see so many more athletes on their own,
just unapologetically using their national platform like Robinson did last
night after that big Falcon win. You know, to give
the credit to Jesus, and you know, from a football

(20:24):
perspective and as well as a faith perspective, but just
a pure X and O Denver Broncos right now should
give up almost about anything they need to to get
that guy. Can you imagine if the Broncos a great
running back. They've had the injury bug at that position.
But you have a guy like that young he's twenty three.
I think he's in his second or third year. Went

(20:46):
to sell Point Catholic High in Arizona and then to
the University of Texas. But he's one of those guys
who's exploding onto the scene. Remember when Terrell Davis came
out of Georgia, I think it was wherever he came
out of and he was a well regarded back, but
then he really came into his own as a pro
and he was the key to Lway getting that PC
needed to win those Super Bowls. This kid, oh my goodness.

(21:09):
If the Broncos could get this kid Robinson team them
up with Nicks, he'd have to give up a lot,
but you could make up for just about anything with
those two three all three seven, one three eight one
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to some of our great text Jump in on anything

(21:31):
that's that's on your mind. This afternoon, we talked about
climate change. Now CNN acknowledging it's fallen off the map
in terms of concern to the American people, which is
more bad news for the Democrats. Of course, their approval
has fallen off the charts. But text or Dan John
Caldera made a good point. If people really believe climate

(21:51):
change is an existential threat to our world, we should
be willing to go to war with China and India
for all the pollution they add with their dirty coal
fire plan. See that's so typical of John to make
a very insightful point like that. And I kind of
love my own point for the Colorado Democrats, which is, Okay,
if you really believe climate change is an existential threat,

(22:13):
are you willing to say no to legal marijuana because
it is a greenhouse gas monster? But that is a
fun party trick. Please pull that out of a party.
They have no good answer to that, Elexa writes us.
In my career, I've seen fraud at almost every company
I've worked at. That's interesting. We're talking about, you know,
the big Smalian fraud up in Minnesota, and it's really

(22:36):
wrong I think to label it the Somali fraud because
while a lot of perpetrators are Somalian, this fraud can't
happen without the elected officials sanctioning it. And I don't
think the elected officials are Somalion. The elected officials want
Somali votes, The elected officials want Somalians to essentially kick

(22:58):
money from the fraud back to them political donations. But
focus really needs to be on these elected officials who
one way or the other have implicitly or explicitly encouraged
from the fraud and they benefited from it directly. And
I love the point Scott Jennings made that this stuff
isn't going to stop until you see some elected officials

(23:20):
going to jail. That's just like if we change the
laws tomorrow to say that let's say a sanctuary city
in state like Denver and Colorado, all of the sudden
they are on the hook for damages money damages to
people who are injured as a result of illegal immigration.

(23:41):
At that point it ends within a week. I guarantee
I spent forty two years of my life representing people
who are seriously injured, catastrophically injured, the survivors of those
killed in all sorts of different situations, be it horrific
motor vehicle crashes, truck crashes, product liability, whatever or sorts

(24:02):
of different horrible causes. And I can tell you that
big jury verdicts change bad behavior. I've seen it happen firsthand.
We just lived it again. They change bad behavior. Big
jury verdicts, righteous verdicts in cases where people have been
seriously injured or killed, have done more to make you

(24:23):
and your family safer than all the legislation passed down
at the legislature. And sometimes there's a direct connection between
the two. So if all of a sudden, you can
sue the city of Denver or the state of Colorado
when you're now paralyzed because somebody who should not have
even been in the country, you know, is out on

(24:45):
the roadways and paralyzes you or commits some horrific crime
against you. If you're able to sue for those damages,
then then yeah, John stan and Polis and all the others,
they change those policies immediately because they'll be voted out
of all office if they don't. So yeah, that's what
we need to do, is the elected officials who have

(25:08):
been Party two permitted failed to crack down on this
massive fraud like we're seen up in Minnesota. They need
to start going to jail, and that's when you'll see
things change. Let me get to some more text, Dan.
Until there is voter idea in stricter voting laws, no
Republican will ever win in Colorado. I hope that texture

(25:29):
calls the show. I know many people. Many people do
agree with that, Texter. I've never seen the proof of that.
I mean, do we know there's some fraud in Colorado? Sure,
and it should be zero tolerance. We shouldn't put up
with any voter fraud in Colorado. Do we know that
mail in voting makes fraud easier? Of course, obviously anybody

(25:50):
who's honest would have to acknowledge that. The big question, though,
is have we ever seen evidence that there's fraud on
a scale in Colorado that would change our election results.
I've never seen that evidence. If somebody has it, that's
the beauty of the privilege of this radio show. We
reach a lot of people in a lot of markets,
and if somebody has that evidence. I've had an open

(26:11):
door policy in our studio for years. If you can
show me that you have real evidence, come on into
the studio, lay it out for everybody. I'd have no
interest whatsoever in concealing that evidence, and I'd have every
interest in making that evidence public. So if you've got evidence,
please bring it to me. I know a lot of

(26:32):
people have concerns, and I'm glad they do, because anybody
who sits here anymore in this country and just trusts
government is out of their minds or they just don't care.
So I'm glad people have concerns, and I'm investigating, and
I'm glad people are digging. And if you get the
evidence that shows we have that kind of fraud, that

(26:52):
all of a sudden, we can, you know, we can
attribute our losses to that fraud. I'll be the first
to air it. Heck, if you just have evidence of
smaller level fraud that we can expose and help get
closer to zero fraud, I'll expose that. So please do
not hesitate to come to me with that. We will
put it on air. But I think the reason we're

(27:14):
getting thumped in Colorado is because demographics have changed in
this state and there are so many more voters of
all races, of all ages, of all demos, so many
more voters from so many different places in the country,
many from California and Washington State, et cetera. Who just

(27:35):
habitually vote Democrat or vote Democrat out of ideology. The
demographics of the state have changed. The Democrats have been
very smart, so they call it diabolical with their money
and their schemes, etc. But they have been able to
spend an awful lot of money to create big advantages
in Colorado. And those groups that will spend big on

(27:56):
conservatives around the country, most of them aren't spending big
on conservatives in coloraduse they don't think they can win.
So we're caughting that vicious cycle, and until we break that,
it's going to be hard to attract much money back in.
Above all, I think we lose to the stereotype. And
as a former Democrat, I can tell you that people,
so many Democrats are much closer to the GOP when
it comes to the actual issues. But the stereotype of

(28:19):
the GOP causes and just the habit of voting Democrat
causes us to lose a lot of races we should win.
So I just don't want us finding false comfort in
the idea that, oh, yeah, more people are voting for us,
but then they steal the votes through ballot rigging. I
think that that would be denial. I think that would
make it much harder for us to make the changes

(28:40):
we need to make to actually win at the ballot box.
Here on the Dan Kapli Show. Well, I'll tell you
the show has been blessed with a lot of great
guests over the years. Take your pick, Jimmy Carter, Bill
maher Mitt Romney, Donald Trump Junior. We've had almost all
the Trumps. We've had all the Trumps except President Trump.

(29:02):
But one of my favorite all time guests, which is
why we keep having him back, is my uncle Father Roger,
capitalist Catholic priest in Chicago, ninety three years old, still
going strong and doing lots of masses, funerals, weddings, etc.
And they always packed the church for his services for
lots of different reasons. Father Odge, welcome back to the

(29:22):
Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
How you doing.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well? I am living the dream, my friend. And the
great thing is Father Rog and I get to spend
along with the family this week between Christmas and New
Year's together often, so we're actually in the same place
in different rooms right now. But I would think Father Rog,
it's fair to say we probably disagree on almost everything politically.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Is that about right, Ah, not everything, but a lot.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I think that's right. So one
of the great things was when the TV was rigged up,
it would only get New Max and Father Rodge had
to watch Newsmax for a couple hours because there was
nothing else on. But we've got to see an ND
back up. But hey, I wanted to get you on
today to talk about what it's like for you to

(30:13):
have an American pope and how weird that it's an
American pope from Chicago right where Father rog has been
just a great, extremely effective Catholic priest in Chicago for
how many years.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Now, sixty seven years, sixty seven years. Things I never
thought i'd see in sixty seven years were the Cubs
winning the World Series in twenty sixteen and the election
of an American pope. And one reason I think that,
you know, we're all presumed that they'd never elect, that

(30:46):
it'd be too political. That we also knew that many
of the men going into the conclave knew that he
was very well qualified. That was never a question. We
all understood that that the political things too large. But
then when they realize this man is a citizen of
Peru as well, and has been out of the country
for so long, and he speaks to all the major

(31:09):
language as well, and is as pride as he is.
Once they realize that they overcame that American thing and said,
this guy's really qualified, maybe as well or better than
anybody else we have. So I think that's something that
and that energized, as you say, the church. Even in
my own parish, I'd say, we're fourteen or fifteen hundred

(31:30):
more people this year than we had last year, and
I think it is the Leo effect. I really do
many more. Yeah, and then we're just one parish. I
don't know if the others had anything like that, because
we have a lot of good things going on that that's,
you know, certainly an indication that people are at this

(31:51):
point proud of him and ready to listen. I don't
know there'll be disagreements that I think that Pride has
brought a lot of people back, and maybe some who
were just listening on TV with a cup of coffee
decided it's time to go back. But I think this
is a good time, a bright time in the church,

(32:12):
and we're very proud of him. And he's from the
South side of Chicago, but honestly, I never personally met him.
But I have a pastor who's now a bishop, and
he used to help my bishop out when he was
just a pastor in the Southeast Side. So when he
went to his oddly mean a visit every five years
in Rome just a month ago or so, when he

(32:33):
walked in the room with other bishops, it was a
case of Hi Bob, Hi John, which must have been
a great feeling for my pastor coming into a room
with a real friend that he's from an area of Chicago.
And now we have another bishop leaving our Joliet Uys
who grew up only fourteen blocks from where Leo grew up,

(32:56):
and he's now going to be the new Archbishop of
New York. So I think that the Leo effect and
his American knowledge will have some effect on decisions that
he makes and the things that he writes about. So
we're quite proud, and it's I think it's a good
time to be in the church.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Wonderful. Hey, my uncle father Roger capitalist Catholic priest for
sixty seven years, ninety three years old, still going strong,
our guests right now, Hey, just perspective from sixty seven
years as a priest. You've seen so much happen within
the church. What advice would you give to parents out
there whose kids might be thinking about becoming priests or

(33:35):
to kids out there who are thinking about it themselves.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, well, it's very difficult. Too often, some changes have
to be made because there is a real personnel shortage
in the church, and so I'm not going to be around.
I don't know what it's going to be, but somehow
we're either going to have to have some kind of
temporary changes so that we get qualified people to be
priests and church. So some changes are going to have

(34:02):
to be made, and I don't want to speculate what
they might be. I won't be around to but it
has to happen. Well, all of a sudden, we have
this interest in the church and in its stockrum, and
you don't have a good personnel to carry it out.
So these next few years should be interesting. Like we
never know what to do with women. We say they're

(34:23):
so important in the church, we got to do this
or that that, we haven't been able to tackle the problem.
We just keep putting it off. And I'm afraid that's
also what's happened with the last Senate that anyway, we're
a longline company, so we'll work something out. I'm sure
that's really to me. It's a good time to be

(34:43):
in the church.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Father Roger, you've got about thirty seconds left. Everybody who's
ever met you, seen you in action, whatever, considers you
one of the finest, if not the finest priests they've
ever known. In our last fifteen seconds, what's the key
to your success?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well, I think that I'm open to listening to people,
and that's one of the things that Leo does well.
And by the way, we were both at the two
five World Series between the White Sox and the Astros.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
And I'll have to leave it there because the music
means we're going to be out on this segment. But
thanks for the time today and look forward to getting
you back soon
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