BENNY BLANCO, DAVE BURD & KRISTIN BATALUCCO: Friends Keep Secrets… Or Do They? (Friendship, Weddings, Love)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Friends on Purpose on three one two, three Friends on Purpose?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You thought that was being loser ish?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
I do.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, we just were born to be best friends. Me
and Benny met at this Mexican restaurant and.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
He said, what can you bring to the table?

Speaker 5 (00:16):
And I was like what.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I thought? He's so sweet and he's so himself, and
he told me a story that lasted forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Benny, Dave Kristen, welcome to On Purpose. He Jay, Hi, Bennie,
come on, Hey, did you know what This is the
first time we've had three people on the show together
first adver times. You know that this is the first
time someone has come on their own with their fiance,
then wife, and now with their best friends. Yeah, so

(00:44):
we've never done that before either. Many all sorts of
you're bring all sorts of records. You're competing with Michelle Obama,
who's been on the show twice. You've been on three times.
This is your third time. So Dave, I'm a huge fan,
always have been. The first time I met you.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I've known you for maybe under a year, but I
love you.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's been ever since I've met you, I've loved you.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Wow, I didn't he doesn't say it back.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I know he loves me, but I said it already said.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
He just said he was very hard, very hard to look.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And Kristin, I've become a huge fan of you. I
can't believe that we're here.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm glad that you still like me.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
But honestly, the guys, this is awesome. It's so great
to have all three of you in the room. I
do want to know how you all three met, because
I have no idea. I don't think I've ever asked
you that before.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, I guess I'm the glue between the two of
the three. You know, I met Benny. He basically from
the day I put any music out. He actually the
first day I released anything, he tweeted like something positive
about me. Yeah, so he like it was, you know,
on a first day to have a guy like him
reach out. And then I, yeah, I like said something.

(01:55):
We were like kind of communicated back and forth a
little bit, and then we almost saw each other one
of my concerts and we didn't hang out. And then
I don't the first time we met. We don't know
for sure when the very first we can't place it.
My memory of like the first real memory I have is.
We met at this uh Mexican restaurant, and I think

(02:15):
he was maybe trying to sign me or maybe just
trying to explain the value that he could add to
my life and my career, and I really didn't see
any value added.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Potentially, that's what he said. Did you say that? He said?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
He said, well, what can you bring to the table?
And I was like, what that was like his first
thing he said to me.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Now, in hindsight, I was totally wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
All of your how did you win to move?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Just proof in the pudding.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
I think it was instant.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Also independent of our respective talents merging and being able
to add to each other's talent careers. We would be
best friends if we were like in Arkansas and we
both were plumbers, you know what I mean, Like we
just are born to be us friends. And then I
met Kristen years later, and then they met because.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I want to know, I thought, yeah, I was you
tell the story.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I met Kristen years later. Bowling Alley, a writer on
my TV show Vanessa, kind of set us up. And
Kristin didn't know that I was going to more or
less scout me scout her.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I was being scouted.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Romantic not for the show.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
No a romantic partner.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I always told Vanessa because I love this woman.
Vanessa was one of the main writers on my show
and she's a great person. I always said keep it
because I was just a hopeless, romantic single guy for
like a decade, and I would say, don't you have
any friends, don't you know anybody? And then she would say, yeah,
I'm looking around. And then Kristin had been in a
relationship for pretty much her whole life, and then she
kind of got single for like a three week period,

(03:51):
and then Vanessa was bowling with her and she realized,
oh my god, Dave. And then she texted me while
she was at the alley being like, hey, I don't
know what you're doing. Was like ten pm, and she
was like, I don't know what you're doing, but I'm
with someone who might be your wife. And I dropped
everything I was doing and immediately went over there late,
joined them late. They were already done bowling by the
time I got there, so I got to take everyone's turn,

(04:12):
and then we just started talking about.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Nachos, Daniel bowl as Strake.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I bought a strike. First thing I did. I bolt
a strike like that was my first I just've a
good athlete that.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh you didn't.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I didn't know, so I think I was doing my
own thing, chatting up the group.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, she was doing her own thing. Then we started
talking about I remember one of the first things I
said to her were like, what are those? And I
pointed to a plate of nachos and she said those
are nachos And I said, I know, I'm just making
small talk.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I like that. I thought that was such a good
like intro.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah, and that was his first intro, Like it was Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean he sat down next to me and said
what are those? And I liked that. He was like,
I'm just making small talk. I feel like it was
like the intro into his personality.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
And you were trying? That was oh yeah, were you trying?
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Instantly I saw her and I was like, oh my god, Vanessa,
good call.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well, no, you said you didn't like it because I
was wearing glasses.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I said, it wasn't love at first sight.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I was gonna ask was an instant connection for me because.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
She was wearing these big glasses. Yeah, she doesn't often work.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
On I was going through a lot and I was
wearing the same clothes for like two weeks straight, and
this is my first venture out. Yeah, not shades, Like no,
they were like, because it was I think I drove there.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah, I drove me home.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, because she was she never lives in Venice or
lived in Venice, and I was living in Venice and
she happened to be staying in Airbnb for that week
in Venice, so it only made sense sorry to be like,
can I get a ride home? So then I had
like an extra forty minute ride where we just talked.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
No, he told me a story that lasted forty minutes.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Really, what was the story?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I thought, he's so sweet and he's so himself, and
I was like I was really happy to I felt
like you had such an ease to you that was rare,
like you were really willing to be like vulnerable. But
I also was like, the story's very long.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
The story was about me pooping my pants. Ye, and
you chose that it's my funniest best story. But it
was like him talk the entire practice, but it's like
a fifteen minute story. And I was like, yeah, I've
said it so many times. And then ironically I believe
that you guys probably met from the first time at
a bowling alley because remember right before remember for my
TV show premiere, season one, I had all my friends

(06:16):
come in from out of town and we all met
at the bowling alley the one time, and Kristen was
there and I was like, don't make it that, like,
don't say anything that I don't want you to say.
Remember that.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Maybe I remember too. I remember two times specifically. I
remember once, like in the very beginning of their relationship.
I remember once after your actual premiere and we like
all walked up to the AA. I remember that time,
and I remember like.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
In in that time being like this girl's really cool.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I was like like nothing, not thinking that that was
your first impression, and he's like, meet my girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
No, no, no, no, they was not his girlfriend. It
was a girl.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
He was like, no, no, in my mind I was
his girl.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
And then it is the best time.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
And then the turning point really in their relationship I
think was that night at like our birthday party. That
was like that was I remember it so clearly.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I did I do that? What it was for you? Kristen,
you remember it different.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's a bad memory, it.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Wasn't it was it wasn't the best. You weren't the
you weren't like exhibiting the best behavior.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I was lashing out. Do you want to hear what happened?

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I do want to hear what happened? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
It was.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
We met in like January thirty first, we had our
birthday party, like six weeks later. We have joint birthday
parties every year. And look what I'm about to say
is pathetic, but they really were like the super Bowl
of like, being a single man, I never would even
have a birth I would never would even throw myself
a birthday party if it weren't for Benny. So now

(07:52):
all of a sudden, every year I'm having like the
most upscale birthday parties planned by him completely where all
these people and women and they know it's like my party,
and like so there's just this building icebreaker where like
people want to come up to me and talk to me.
And I just had this feeling that we were gonna
start dating. And you know, if you know me, you

(08:15):
know that I have trouble like wrapping my head around
not necessarily commitment, but just like I'm going to turn
over every stone kind of guy and everything I do,
and it really As I continue to tell the story,
I want you to know that I'm ashamed of my behavior.
This is not something that I'm proud of. But I
think I just knew that we were going to end

(08:36):
up dating, and but it was too early to be like,
I didn't have to commit yet, to be quite honest,
which is a really misogynistic thing to say, And I
knew that I didn't have to commit, and I also
knew my days were numbered of having romantic freedom because
I felt like I was about to be totally in
a committed relationship and I think, I don't know, I
just kind of like overreacted. And but for whatever reason,

(08:57):
I went into the night being like, I'm not committed
to tonight. We're not I'm not necessarily going home with
Kristen tonight. I'm going to do my own thing.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
But can I Because because I didn't do, you're making
it seem like I went in there being like we
have to be we're married, Kristen. He went in there
with like I think there was like seven of girlfriends
of mine, and I played it so like I don't
like to play it cool. It's very hard for me
to play cool. I'm glad that any thought I was
cool when he first met me, but that's not me.
And so I was like, Okay, well this is fun.

(09:25):
I like a party. I'm just going to be like
free and not expect anything from him. So I didn't
all night, and then as the night came to an end,
it was kind of like, well, we all know the
expectation that we're going to like hang up, we haven't
hung out yet, and he just had such a like
you had such a I knew exactly what he was doing,
like I could sense what he was doing. And then

(09:46):
I think I was like, well, this is lame. And
then it got into a little bit of a like
I would say at the end.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
I'd like to interject, I'd like.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
To started talking to other guys he was talking, I
like to interject.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
It this moment there was a flirt battle going on
back and forth, and it was like so strange. It
was like, yeah, it was like so strange and and
childish in the moment a movie.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
And we were in such a small area because now
it was like the after party. It was like such
a like it it was like fifty people total. And
I remember going to the bathroom. There was like a
communal bathroom you go into and I was like with
Dave and we were drunk, and he.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Was just like, what do you say?

Speaker 4 (10:36):
He was talking about how this was like one of
the best nights of his life, and he was like, no,
he's the first time be hearing the story.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, sometimes I forget the details. And then it was
it was a sad time.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Basically, not really he was. It wasn't in the moment.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
And that night she was talking about like leaving, and
like before we went into the bathroom and she was
like visibly upset it.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
She was about to leave. She might have even just walked.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
She did, and I was like, okay, there was like
maybe you don't run after. I don't remember if there
was tears or anything.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
That's I'm providing.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
So she walks out and.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
I remember talking to Dave and I was like, Dave,
I was like, what are you doing. I was like,
she's so cool, she's beautiful, and I was and and yeah,
it was like his sentiment was kind of like the
what he was saying where he's like, what if there's more?

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Like I'm so like he was like, this is.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
All there is more? No, no, that was everything he
just said was the subtext. But really all you said
I remember specifically, were like, I don't know. You were like,
I kind of like Battle Luca.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And then it's all he was.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
And then and then and then at the end, I.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,
I don't know, check like I really I like Battle Luca.
And then and then I called her, and then he
called her and in the car it was like out
of a movie.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And then we never split up.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
For what was it for you that? When this is it?
No more stones to be turned over?

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Like I'm not the kind of guy that did what
I said I just did at the thing. So I
just felt a little bit bad about I'm just not
that guy. And it's like, what am I looking for
someone else when I have such a great person who
wants to hang out with me. Now at that point,
I don't think either one of us necessarily knew we
were going to get married. I don't think you knew
we were going to get married six weeks then.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Remember I think the first thing I said, like on
our second date, I was like, is this a dead end?

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Well?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, so I was.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I was angling for marriage.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
So our second day, she said, she said, this is
a dead end. It is a second date us if
us not getting married is a dead end, it's totally
possible that this is a dead end. But if you're
saying it's a dead end if we aren't actually married,
I can't answer that question.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Because it's a second But Kristin for your said, like
you're angling for marriage on the second day, like you're
really clear about what you want. A. What's making it
clear that this is the guy you want to be with?
And B what's making you confident to be so clear
about what you want? Because I think so many people
who listen to the show, I know they actually feel
quite scared, yeah, on their second date, to actually be
honest about what they're looking for.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, I went into it being like I was thirty
and I'd come out of a long relationship, and I
felt like like I had this whole narrative in my head,
which I think the narrative is true, that it's like
why should women have to kind of play like this
game of let them chase you? Or like I feel
like they're so often even with my friends, like even
with Dave, they'd be like don't be too aggressive, like

(13:29):
don't because I very much always just said what I wanted,
which was like I like taking out with you, let's
hang out again. And I felt like I didn't want
to waste time like letting him drive the relationship, so
I just thought it's better off that I figure out
if we're a bad fit, then like let it go
too long. Also, I'm only getting older, and.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
It is remarkable how infrequently I want on a lot
of dates. I dated a lot of people over a
ten year, not really any seriously, but I want on
a lot of dates. And it's very rare that I
was held accountable, and like you know where I feel
like oftentimes there are games that are played that that
are totally predisposed to advantage the man, and I was

(14:12):
very much down to lean into that because it advantaged me.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I was ready to debate, like I was. I was
like waiting for him to do for the challenge. Yeah,
like here are all the reasons why it, like why
I'm not ready or whatever. And then I kind of
always came into the situation like we were always able
to talk about it. Like you would be overwhelmed with
like your work, and you thought that because if you're
dating somebody, that means that you can't work and have
like a career. Yeah, so I was always up for

(14:37):
the debate.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Do you want to chime in, Bennett?

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I just think I think no.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I was thinking about it because it's like, I think
we're actually in a time where, like I think it's
sexy when a woman does that, Like when like when
Selena was doing that to me, like she was just
like her like very much.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, we would talk about it, so yeah, we would.
I'd be like, you have to go for these you
have to go after that.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, And it made me like it made me be
like whoa, Like it was like cool, It's like cool.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
I was like, oh my god, yeah, I want like
cause you know David saying like, uh, you know, you
know sometimes when you're dating someone, they might not want
to say something to rock the boat. And like I
love when Selena would turn over it'd be three in
the morning and we were dating for like threes and
she'd be like, well, what are we And I was
like what And then she was like, well, when I
go to New York this weekend, what am I going
to tell people we are? And I was like it,

(15:27):
like she like caught me so off guard. It's cool
to have that dynamic where like both person both people
are like on that same level. And I think I
do see it, like I feel like I do, cause
a lot of my friends are like that where I
see women starting to do that a lot more now,
and I think it's I think it's cool, Like I

(15:47):
think it shows like such a confidence, Like you know,
some people look at it, like some of my friends
look at it like, oh, like that's so neatier. That's
so I'm like, that's a person telling you exactly what
they want, Like I don't want to play these games,
like and when you're and.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
It's okay to be needy, like I think it's okay
to insist exactly how you are.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
And will say that in the morning, she'll say like
she'll be like, today's a needy day, and she'll bea
And and when you are with someone who can because
it's so hard when you're trying to play a guessing games,
like when you're trying to talk with your partner who
doesn't express themselves, it's so difficult to meet them in
the right place, and then they're like harboring all this

(16:24):
resentment but yeah, like Selena will wake up in the
morning and she'll say, Okay, today's like a needy day.
I need you to be like extra nice to me,
extra gentle, and then you are set up for success.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Because you know what to do I should say on
behalf of day, Like I did, trust my instincts, which
was that I could tell that Dave like I knew
who he was as a person, and I knew it
was just his anxieties that were kind of like overriding
this entire situation. It wasn't like I was like totally
shooting in the dark.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Totally when I look back on it, like, it is
crazy to me that now that I know her and everything,
that I wasn't after the first day, week whatever, being like,
oh my god, that's the person I'm gonna like to me,
it's so obvious like that she is my soulmate. But
it was the only reason I wasn't. But truly, the
only reason I didn't see it was because of my
own anxieties wouldn't even allow me to see it. Because
as soon as we started spending more time together, I

(17:13):
was like, She's the funniest, most beautiful, perfect I couldn't
even believe that I was.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
It was a debate and what I said to myself,
I said, I always I feel like I was in
a lot of relationships where I didn't always feel like
I was the one that like chased or I had
like all of the agency, and I would after my
last relationship before Dave, I was like, I want to
chase the person I marry, and I want to be
the one that's like choosing because so often you kind
of I don't know. I felt like so so many

(17:39):
of my past relationships were more like you know, like
you're you're being pursued, yeah or something, or like it's
just easier to stay whatever then go So with Dave. Well,
before Dave, I was like, I want to like chase
my husband, Like I want to be like I really
know that I want this, not like.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
This is easy, but I feel like it set them
up for such success because when I look at them,
there couldn't be more even in a relation, and like
I feel like that's when a relationship wins, Like no
person has the upper hand in the relationship.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
There's no like bad, Like there's like funny like banter
back and forth, and I.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Love that, but it's like they truly like watching both
of them, they truly want each other to win, and
then that's when I feel like that's when the relationship works.
I've been in relationships where the person is secretly like competitive, Yeah,
they're like competitive. Or I've been in relationships where something
good happens to me and I'm keeping it from the

(18:34):
person because I'm scared there, or like I had a
time where like I like won some big award and
I went into a closet to answer the call and
be excited because I was too scared. Yeah, and like
that's like the worst type of relationship to be in.
Like I want to be in a relationship where like
my partner is like cares more about like they like
feel like they care more about you than their own thing.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
And you feel that way too. And you guys are
just like the ultimate cheerleader for each other.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well you guys. I mean what's amazing though, is that
you guys are living the dream because you guys are
best friends and then your wife and your best friend
are really great friends. Yea, and that's so special. And
the fact that you guys used to do your birthdays together,
the fact that you also got married in the same year.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yes, and she's so close to Selena too.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's perfect.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I'm so happy it were like you know when you
know when one of your friends dates someone that you're like,
oh and like.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
And you never know, it's crazy you have done?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
What would you have done?

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Oh my god, I've been that guy. I've dated someone.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Where my friend. I've dated multiple people where. I mean
one time I broke up with the person I was
with and my friends wanted to throw me a party
like and I said, I said, well, why didn't anyone
tell me when I was in it? And they said,
what are we supposed to tell you? They said, we
made we made gestures and and yeah, Dave, have you

(19:56):
ever made gestures to Benny in that way?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Has slightly in his own way, not as blunt.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I keep it real if anyone's behaved, I don't care
who you are, if anyone's behaved, I just like to
speak about the facts at hand, So I always fact me.
I'm a helping hand with anyone who wants to analyze
the facts at hand. But you know, love is a
particular thing that sometimes transcends fact.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
So pretty good, right, Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, you've like fountain.
I was like, what that is beautiful? I get what
you're saying. It's like when you when you know someone
you have a friend and they're like really into this person. Yeah,
you're kind of like, well, maybe there's a part that
I don't want to mess up because they see something
I don't see.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's not your place necessarily to be like, you know,
I know you love this person, but just so you
know you shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah. I don't know. What was it like though, going
from this part you get married a month apart, like
to be at each other's wet.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Levels partying, high level party, stressful.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
We were so tired. I feel like we were all
really tired. I was really tired.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I liked it, I mean I really enjoyed it. To me,
I was like, our wedding was the best night of
our lives and it was so great. And I just
remember being so happy that I had his wedding. Yeah,
I was like, and the fun isn't done. And I
remember selling. I said to her, I said, we should
really try to have as much fun as possible, because
nights don't always have this upside potential of how fun

(21:15):
a night can be. The way and like we just
had the most Like very rarely do you go into
a night where it has the potential to be the
most fun night of your life, and our wedding of
course had that potential. It felt so good, but it
actually was, like you know, I would have called a
fact a fact if it was in any way shorter
than I would have, especially because we're paying all this
goddamn money, But it really was.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, it was the best night.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It was so perfect. And then I just remember being
so excited for his and his was perfect.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
And we had the bachel threat between we had like
we had. It's like we kept saying that we're like
kicking off like it was our wedding, and then we
had in between our wedding and their wedding, we each
separately went on like you know, I went to like
Selena's and Day went to Benny's, and then we had
then we had the wedding, so it was like a
fun two months.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Kristin, what was your favorite thing about Benny and Selina's wading.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Probably the vows. It's so like watching your close friends
get married and like hearing what no no, I.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Was remembering how his face moved and he would cry.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, I couldn't see anything because I was behind
a pool, but I heard the vos.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You didn't get or anything.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I did get the front roasie, but I didn't know
if people were going to sit between me and Benny's family,
so I like sat all the way to the side.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
She just had she had she had an architectural issue
blocking her.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
But that was the best part.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Tell us about the vows.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Their vows were so good, and I think well and
Dave officiated, which I also obviously enjoyed. I just loved hearing.
It's like it was nice to kind of hear them
be serious, like you're not. It's so rare that you're
going to like hear your friends, you know, say their
love is like what they're doing in your bows, you.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Know, especially Okay, so my perspective, by the way, I
couldn't have a better view, Like they're like I'm like
right there and they're right here.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, and so because you official, yeah, so have you
done one before?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, I've actually never even given a best man speech,
so like the whole thing. And then it's also such
a tricky because like the I'm almost giving a best
man speech, but it's also right there at the altar,
so you can't even there was a lot of pressure,
but I really felt born for that moment. And it
was really look Selena like when the curtain went away

(23:38):
and it was her and she started she like literally
I'm loathed to say that she looked like a princess,
but she just looked like a fairy tale.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Like the sun that it was like the most the
sun like was setting behind her, and they had like
these beautiful tents. So when she this is what I
did see a little bit of when she was like walking,
it was like it was like majestic.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, and like you know, she pulls out this like
I don't even written this hand this book of scriptures
or that is like her vows that were like written
by hand, and she like lost five days earlier that
Benny had. She like wrote her vowels for like a
year and then she lost them like right before the
wind and then Benny found pulled it.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, you found it on the day and she a
few days before.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
But like her vowels are just like you know, and
and then Benny, like you know, obviously Benny has a
high level of emotional capacity and sensitivity but he's definitely
a joker, and to see him just break like and
become just a shell of a man, like his face, like,

(24:42):
it's never like when Selena when the curtain got revealed.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
And his face was like.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Because I was trying not to okay, So when we
did the first look, I was like, oh, oh this
is easy.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
I'm not even crying.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
But when she came out to the music, my face,
I was like, I'm not ready to cry this early.
So I was like, I was like, like, I can't
even do it. I was like, I recently watched the
video back and it's.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's weird to see someone's face so often and then
realize you've never seen their face do a certain thing.
It is a weird feeling to feel that.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, I'm never nervous, and I was before it happened.
All of a sudden got so nervous and like ten
times I was like should I have them print mine
ow bigger?

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Should I do it small? And like I asked him
all these questions and then he.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Made me walk out to like everyone's seated, I'm thinking
the things about to start, and he made me walk
out alone, like down the aisle essentially and like double check,
and he had multiple printouts of the thing already sitting
up there.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
I remember being so nervous, and then for some reason,
the second I turned into the room, everything melted away
and it was like I wasn't nervous at all anymore,
and it was it was so cool to see THEIRS
was like training. Yeah, THEIRS was like training, and THEIRS

(26:07):
was I really can't stress it was the best wedding
I'd ever been to in my life.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I think also it's because it's like the people like
I care about.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I've never like I cried so much at their wedding
during their vows, I was bawling, and you think about
your friends, but then like to see them do this
thing that's so like final. It was so beauty, and
they're both so well spoken and funny but also serious
and like, yeah, I don't usually see Dave serious. I

(26:38):
never see Kristen's here, Like we're all those people who
kind of like make like I'll probably be laughing at
like my friend's funeral, like cause I like can't like
it's it's it's it's like a coping mechanism. And to
watch them do that was so fun and everything was perfect,
and their week their wedding was one of the best
weekends of my life.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
And then I was like, oh my god, I have
my own to look forward to.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
And I had that feeling where I was so scared
that mine wasn't going to live up to what it
was in my head and it was so far beyond
what like. The only thing I didn't like is cocktail
Hour because I kept having to say hi to everyone,
and I said, am I going to be doing this?

Speaker 5 (27:18):
The whole night?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
I tried to get you to do the thing you
didn't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, we didn't do it. We did do it, and.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
We took we should have. We basically went Dave and
I like had to go to the bathroom. So we
before Benny and Selena had.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Seen this was our wedding. Wow, we knew about this.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Did you do this? Like? Were they? They take you
into the reception before the guests come.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
They pluck you from cocktail Hour five minutes early, take
you to where the band does and where dinner is,
and they like let you see it all. Yeah, the
band playing just for you, and it was like our
favorite part of our wedding. And then we had to
go to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
So we went into Benny and Selena's before they had
seen it, and we were like, oh my god, this
is incredible. They have to see it. So we were
like should we pull them away? And pulling them away
was like it.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Was so hard, so hard, like I thought, you know what,
I felt like they were being bombarded. They were, and
I was just like, they're missed. They're only going to
the tentting that they're saying it was the most beautiful
tent and you go to see now they're going to
say not not empty, but they but I but I
made them do it drags. I was just like I
just had this instinct that I knew better and that
they didn't.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Know what was your wedding?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Like, gosh, I think, do I remember this correctly? Was
yours like some sort of thing like outside near like
a brick like.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
No, no, no, no, that was just that was just.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
This year is a tenure wedding? Ten years? Oh?

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Actually, I don't care about your wedding. I want to know.
I want to know this. This is my real question
a podcast. I have a question for you.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I have I have many more ques going.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
I got one that you asked one question I have
one ques one question.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
No no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
It's such a good question. I just want to word
it the right way. Okay, you're ten years in.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Touney by Jay.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
My wife, you're ten years in.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
What have you learned in this time that you that
you thought you knew when it was ten years before,
and what do you want like the next ten years
to be?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Like? Yeah, question, good question, good question. On the answer,
it's similar to the way you're even talking about each other.
I feel like you think you love your partner the
most you could love them on your wedding day, and
then you realize you had no idea how much you
could love them, like ten years on. It's just like
I thought I loved my wife like the most I
could ever love her, and then you actually go through life.

(29:41):
You go through challenges, you go through ups and downs.
We got married, changed jobs, moved country, and moved home
all in the same year. Wow, and so like, we
went through so much, and I feel like that could
either break you or make you closer. And for us,
it just brought us closer than the pandemic. We were
stuck together every day and it brought us closer. And
I think that I could have been. So I feel
like when you've been through so much life together, you

(30:02):
just have so much proof that you love each other
through so many different versions of each other. And I
think that's the other thing that I feel like I've
been in love with a different person in ten years
because my wife has been so many different versions of herself.
She'll probably say I have been pretty much the same,
but I feel like I feel like she has changed

(30:23):
so many times in beautiful ways, And so you're learning
to fall in love again. So this idea of oh,
I know you every move and I know everything about you,
it's like I actually don't, and I feel like I'm
constantly on my toes. And because we end up spending
a bit of time away from each other every year
because of work, I feel like we're still dating, which
is really fun.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Actually, I love the.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Fact that we don't see each other all the time.
Then there's a sense of like I can't wait to
get back to you, and so we see each other
too much now all day not too much for me. Yeah, yeah,
I was like I was trying to convince my wife
to do a reality show with me because I was like,
I just want to be with you all day now,
like that would be my She's like, we're never doing
a reality TV Yeah, yeah, thank you. I don't know

(31:06):
who else would because there wouldn't be much drama. We'd
have to create some drama, Like you'd have to find
ways I'd have to invite drama. Yeah. But did you
guys ever think, like we're here to talk about friends,
keep secrets. The show not a podcast, not a live stream.
Did you ever believe that you guys would be doing

(31:26):
a show together?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I think it makes sense, ever, yes, because we I
don't think we saw I didn't necessarily see it coming,
but it really kind of was this perfect storm of
things happening at the right time. And like Kristen was
very she was always, even as I was making Dave
in my always on TikTok and always being like, there's

(31:48):
something that's so rewarding about real human behavior. And she
was always kind of on the forefront of knowing that
consumption patterns are really changing, and that was something that
I really respect her opinion about a lot of things,
and that was something that was in my head. And separately,
me and Benny had kind of just flirted with the
idea of a podcast for years, but I never really

(32:10):
saw it as a thing that I wanted to do.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
And what changed.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
I think one day I was like, but what if,
like we like rigged our house, and what if you
take the same like creativity that the two of you
have and you try to change what this is versus
trying to like fit the mold of what everything else is.
And I feel like that's when you were And I
think Benny like separately had the same idea because we
all got on the phone and he was like, yeah,
we can literally like he was like I was, So

(32:34):
I just think it was a perfect storm for you
to be like, oh, this is exciting.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Once I started thinking about the potential to reinvent things
and make things different, then I got really excited about it.
And then only when we started doing it did I
really like fall in love with everything. Because I say
this to them all the time. My me even going
for it as a comedic presence only happened because I

(32:59):
was trying to entertain my friends and be like the
funny guy to my friends, and that is my when
I am the happiest when I'm around my best friends,
and I'm like seeking the joke and trying to make
them laugh, and then I went for it. I try,
you know, I became a comedian, made my show Dave,
and like a show like Dave, it requires so much
like hard work, I believe, and like everything that seems

(33:21):
like it's all so fun and light, and like the
amount of brain power that goes into executing it is
so next level that actually making the show Dave can
be torturous. Whereas as soon as we started doing this,
I've never had more. It's just like I was the
inner child and he was like now having fun with
my best friends again. And then even seeing the footage

(33:44):
of it and understanding how it all was working to me,
I think back to Kristen's original thesis, there's nothing more compelling.
I think COVID actually caused us because the shows stopped
being made and people were just at home, and then
TikTok was blowing up and we were just seeing over
and over again human beings being themselves and being really
entertaining and fun to watch. And so I think at

(34:04):
the end of the day, things are only as good
as that the characters that that are there and we're
just being ourselves, and there really is nothing pure than
like having a great time with your best friends, and
it's all everything that's happening is so real and organic
and like they're like the amount of hard laughs that
are happening with all three of us as we're filming
it is I've been talking for a long time.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
I'm realizing.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I realized how.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
All for that space. Okay shows, Okay. I still remember
the first called when you called me up. It was like,
I think me and you know, me and Dave and
Kristen want to start this show. And in my head
I was like, oh great, you know, we'll put some
microphones down, we're going to sit down. It will be
another interview show. You guys will have great guests. And
then as these things evolved, I was just like, your
guys create a vision. The way you're shifting up the industry,

(34:54):
the way this show is gonna change the way people
think about what a podcast is. One interview is it's amazing,
and honestly it's been such a joy, like seeing you
guys put in the work, put in the hustle. But
also the most important thing is I feel like whenever
I've seen it, I got to walk into one of
your episodes when I was coming to do a photo.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Sho of that.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
But then I just got to walk into an episode
It's great, which is insane. Yeah, and I'm like, I
couldn't believe just how crazy real authentic and you know
people throw those words around. Yeah, so I don't even
like using those words because nowadays everyone's like, oh, it's
so authentic, it's so this it's not even that, it's
just is what it is, like it is just three friends.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I don't even know what's coming.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, we getting these random conversations and arguments that have
become so passionate that I feel like anyone watching a
group or anyone in their own group of friends is
able to relate to, like it's really just us kind
of living and existing and it's a fly on the
wah observation of that.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I think what's fascinating about it on a more thoughtful
level is one of the things I'm trying to do
with the work I'm that we're putting out in the
world is trying to make people feel less alone. And
I feel like this show makes people feel alone.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
She always says there's a loneliness epidemic.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Well, because there is, but I felt like I realized.
I do think after COVID, like all of our social
lives have slowed down, or if they haven't, there was
like there was definitely like a period where socializing beyond
the anxiety of like COVID kind of create there was
like a learning curve to kind of get back into
it and putting yourself out there. And I really resonate

(36:24):
with like TikTok. And it's not like I love watching
people in like Michigan or like Random State, you know,
like home videos essentially of like people hanging out. And
I feel like one cool thing about us is I
mean especially Benny and not Dave is cool, but like
I feel like when we met Benny, you are such
a good host. You always like have us over and
like we have so much fun and we meet new people,

(36:45):
and I think we now have the opportunity to like
bring people into that experience, which is what I like
on TikTok.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I'll tell you some I was.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
I was with my friend the other day and we
were hanging out and he like just went through a breakup.
You know, I don't ever watch myself back. I'm not
like a guy that does that. I don't like once
it's there, it's there. I like, I'll ask my manager.
I'll say, hey, did I say something stupid? And I'll
be like, ah, this was stupid, and I'll say, okay,
take it out. Like I'm not like, a, I don't wanna.

(37:18):
I can't do that in any like I don't want
to look at a magazine. I don't want to do
any of that. But my friend wasn't feeling great, and
I said, let me put on an episode of our
new show. And I put it on and at first
he's like staring at it and he's laughing uncontrollably, and
he's like, it's just like following along to everything. And

(37:42):
it got to the point where we start having our
normal conversation and it's just playing in the background, and
it's just like it just we were like in it.
But then we go do our own thing, and then
we come back to it and we're like, it was
so cool to have. It's like a constant friend in
the corner. And it was like whenever there was like

(38:02):
a lull in the conversation, we would just start watching
that's the thing again, and it was and it and
we were laughing and we would like pause it and
then talk about like our own stories. We're like, oh
my god, that reminds me of and to me, I
feel like we live in a world where there's constantly
so much static and noise of like not great things,

(38:24):
and I feel like there's a way to put something
good into the earth without like pushing, like pushing it
down people's boats, like trying to do like some educational
like it's it's like when we did Earth, like we
made Earth and it had a really good sentiment behind it,
but it was talking about like your penis and a

(38:45):
babboons butt. Like It's like, like, I think there's a
way to do something good for the world and not
take yourself so seriously and we talk about real life
shit on this podcast.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
It's not a podcast, but I was waiting for that.
It's not only Yeah, it's multi media.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
He wants to change the name to multi media multi media.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
No one like me? Yeah, right, scenes with it like nineties,
it's classic, vintage, vintage.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
No one wants so it's still friends, keep Secrets.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
You wanted to change the name.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
To Yeah, you like send a serious tax.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's amazing. I never forgot that to it. I just.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Hadn't made it to you yet shut down. It's not
the right idea, I don't think, Benny replied, no, But.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's what I love about what you guys can do. Like,
you guys are doing something that not a lot of
people can do. You guys can have fun, be ridiculous,
talk about crazy stuff, and have a moral message to
wrap it up with, which is insane or not. And
I think that's the beautiful thing that you're making people
feel close. But for you, Dave, like you're working with
your wife and your best friend. Yeah, in the same space. Yeah,
I feel like you have the hardest job because that's yeah.

(39:56):
I just wanted to empathize. It was like, take a
moment to acknowledge that you're you're in the middle, Like,
how how does working with friends loved ones is hard? Anyway?

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
How are you managing it? Look?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I really had no fear going into it because I
just know both of them so well and I've I
just feel like I wouldn't become this close with anyone
if they if the person couldn't analyze whatever facts at
hand that are and talk about them fairly, logically or whatever.
So I'm we get in little spats and arguments all

(40:31):
the time.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
What's the roles usually who starts to fight, who continues?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Three of us are equally annoying to A Like, yeah,
it really varies, and all of us do different things.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
I love, but I love all of them. They're so fun.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
But I just go on.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I just know that there's really no argument or moment
that could ever be the type of thing that we
couldn't logically talk about it and arrive at the facts
at hand. So ultimately I have no fear. I also
have a pretty high tolerance for like under standing him,
understanding her, understanding when to leave things be. And I
think all of us kind of do and we're all
so close that I don't know. For me, it's literally

(41:07):
like I work so hard that nothing makes me happier
than getting to work so hard and hang out with
my best friend and wife while doing it.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
And I think we all communicate the same way, like
we can kind of get like revved up and get
like not aggressive but passionate.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
We're all aggressive, but we.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Don't take it like I feel like we'll do it
and then like two seconds later we'll be like we'll
be fine. And I think that's like it's unique to
kind of find people that communicate the same way that
you do in these moments. I mean, we can definitely
get on each other's nerves, but it's never like like
it's never like taken personal.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Really, I'm never mad at any That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Oh, you are annoyed, you get annoyed.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
No, but I'm never it's like what she's saying, Yeah,
like it goes.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Ever mad at anyone.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
We get revved up together.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, Like, I don't think I could ever like be
like actually really angry at you guys. I don't think
that could ever be a thing. We're also none of
us are that type of person. He's only been angry
at me one time in his entire life, and the
reason was we were coming home from Coachella and he
was really tired and he hadn't slept in the type

(42:13):
of like situation, he had had a full night sleep
in a few days and he needs a full night's sleep,
and he's getting his stuff out of the car and
I'm getting myself out of the car and I kind
of like like kicked his knee or something, and and yeah,
I can't even remember think like I like was like, yeah,
pushed me from I was like, yeah, I was like

(42:34):
pushing him like as a joke, and he was like no.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
He pushed me playfully. You hit my shin hit the
like the car and hurts so much my sh He
goes get.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Off of me, and he was and then I laughed
at him. It was he was angry for about fifteen seconds.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
So how do you guys make decisions?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Then a group conversations?

Speaker 3 (42:57):
It can get a vote. No, it's rapped up, it
got ribbed up.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
I like to bring the vote in, but she she'll
never insert her.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I don't want the vote. I want us to talk
it out.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
I like the vote.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
He likes the we we it's a two three like
the vote.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I definitely think what what I I've noticed that I
do sometimes feel this isn't like a bad thing. I
can tell that I'm like a little bit more sensitive
than the two of them, Like I think it's like
a guy girl thing. Maybe not. I don't want to
make such an assumption, but I would say that, like
I would say that I am the more sensitive one
of the three of us.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Would you guys not, Well, I'm not sensitive. I'm not
sensitive about that type of stuff like I'm that sensitive,
like I'm crying in a movie a song, like, yeah,
I'm not sensitive, And I don't think Dave is either,
Like if someone is just like like I want someone
to tell me. Also in the studio, like I don't
like the sugar coating, like just be if someone's just like, oh,
like that that didn't work, Let's do this, I'm like, oh, great,

(43:51):
like let's try it.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, I like that too.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I'm chill.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
You're well, she's sensitive in a different way that I get. Yeah,
Like me and Dave have been doing this. We've been
in the foreground putting ourselves out there for many many years.
This is Kristen's like first thing. This is like everyone's
first impression on her is like it's not like she's
like back in the day where like it would be

(44:16):
like Michael Jackson would perform once and you'd be like, man,
I wonder what he's like as a guy.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
There was like no other media.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
We're seeing like every like nook and cranny, like she
like she'll like she'll burke like sweat, yeah, and she's
so honest and it's so rare that you see it's funny.
I like her and Selena. I see why they're such
good friends because it's like there's so many similarities where
like I feel like sometimes like you and Selena have

(44:44):
this thing where you're both like so brutally honest about
how you're feeling, and it's like it's so comedic too,
it's like funny, it's like hard. I like can't explain it. Yeah,
Like you're just saying like you're sweating, Like I feel
like like most like especially because you guys are like
so well put together and like no, no, but like

(45:05):
she don't say the same thing. She'll be like, I'm
sweating and I'm having like an anxiety attack right now,
like and I love that about you guys, And I
do feel like there's also a lot of yous out there,
And I think like you're going to inspire people so
much because you wear.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Your insecurity is on your sleeve in a cool way.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
And I like it.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
I like that it's cool.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
How does it feel for you, Christian, Like, obviously this
is a big deal. Is the first time you're going
to be here's the first interview you're doing, right, And.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I almost didn't come. I was going to say that
I had the stomach flu. I was like, I was
like thinking, I would have taken that. You would have known?
Why wouldn't it? Well, you shouldn't have room, but I
but I knew that.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
No.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I actually like this interview. I'm doing fine. Yeah, there
is like a spit bubble that keeps coming.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Smile, that's a little bit.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Right before we did this, she had a full thing
of lipsick across her whole mouth, and I told her
right before Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
As an argument ever lasted longer than the recording of
one of the episodes.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
No, no is anyone but asleep.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Walk around?

Speaker 5 (46:32):
No, No, you can if you don't know, I don't. No,
I can't be the first.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Man to ever reposition your butt.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Jay said that nobody has ever used the bathroom during
an interview ever except.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Him once with Kevin.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I felt so embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
I can't Kevin, do you if I used?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
And then did you use this one?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
You know?

Speaker 5 (46:53):
I always ask people like I always wonder like do
they use the bathroom? No?

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Like when like Adele is performing, like is she ever?
Just like oh my gosh, I ate something crazy like
like does like like does anyone have to poop?

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Earned the best, like find a routine for moments in
their life, right, Like that's how athletes.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
My stuff is always right before I have.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
To go to the bath like IPE when I'm nervous,
which is so nice for our podcast because I get
up and go to the bathroom like I would say,
like four times an episode. Well not really, it's honestly, yeah,
i had to as soon as I sat down, but
I've already gone. It's just nerves. Like it's like to me,
it's a nerve based thing. It's not. Actually, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Do you think you're PE's nerve based?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
It's not pee, But I'm surprised at how often I'll
have to poop, like thirty minutes before a concert.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, I can relate to that.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
I can relate to what is that nerve that's all
your are have to like evacuate before and when I
used to, like I do it before five minutes before
going when I was when I was younger, when I
like first, like really in New York, like first got
on the dating scene. I use to any time I

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was going to have a date with a girl and
she was about to come over and we were going
to leave, I would like I'd have to poop like
two minutes before.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
It would happen.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Every time until like I got really comfortable with it,
and I would and I would be I would be honest,
like I used to use that as one of my
like icebreakers or like my other.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
No, I would just like be like my other icebreaker,
I would say is.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
I would say, I don't usually do this these, but
what's the worst thing you've ever done in your entire life?
And then we'd both say the worst thing we ever
did in our whole life. And I'd be like, Okay,
now I feel like I know you and I also
have blackmail on you in case like this doesn't go up.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
How did you come up with that? Did it work? Break?

Speaker 5 (48:44):
I didn't do it. I didn't do it with Selena.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
I feel like you always think like I like, through dating,
I was like, oh, like I met my soulmate, Like, oh,
I met the person I could spend the rest of
my life. But it's so different when you actually meet
the person that you are going to spend the right
to your life. But it was such a different feeling
and all, and I like went back and I was like,
whoa those feelings when I was younger like that, it

(49:08):
was so different because it just clicks, you know what
I'm saying, It's in a different way.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
What's silliness reaction when she sees you cry at the
altar like on the wedding day? Like, what's her reaction
to that? Trying to compare it to Roddy's reaction to
me crying.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I think she cried, and then while it was all
going on, we were laughing and just like talking to
each other, like while everything was happening.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
I've cried.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
I've cried in front of her plenty of times. No,
I I cry, I cry, I'm cry. I'm an icey,
so I'm a little fish.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, dude, that makes sense. All my closest male friends.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Of really, what are you?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I'm a I'm a virgo.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
My mom is vir virgo, but I don't really identify
I'm on the cusp.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I'm pretty pretty like you do have some very virgal
when's you're birthday sixth September.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Have you ever had like a person on here that's
an expert at all that strology?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yes, I had an astrology expert Jenny Nichols a couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
And that did that person make you feel like it's
actual kind of scientific fact, because I'm you know, whenever
anyone brings up sign or anything, I want to be like,
what the care we talking like that stuff so kindsequential,
But then there are so many times where it seems
spot on. Did that expert say that it's real?

Speaker 2 (50:26):
You should have them one? Yeah, we should, Yeah, that
would be really cool. It's the cliff not you know,
I'm I'm kind of like you, so I I have
an understanding of like Eastern astrology, which is very deeply scientific.
The number of astrologies that available are non existent now,
Like it's hard, but it does exist. And I've had

(50:48):
people tell me crazy things like predict they predicted like
how many kids they would have in the first name
of their partner and all that kind of stuff. And
then you have what we have today where you have horoscopes, which,
of course the daily horoscope you really is like the
made up and so it's kind of finding that balance.
Her take was there's lots of truth to it. It's
all based on the planets and how they align. There's
lots of ways of checking the system and making sure

(51:10):
that it's valuable insight, but the amount of people that
are actually doing that today are very little, so it's
almost like there's a lot of Mike's not enough real MC's.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Maybe that's kind of when I moved to La, the
amount of people that seem to operate off of that
having so much consequence bloom, Like, I feel like I'm
on an island as the only guy who's like, this
isn't real.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, I've just brought a weird pattern that all my
best male friends are born in March.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Yeah, it's just just strange. Born in March.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Jack, Well, we haven't had enough time yet, but I'm
looking forward to it. But seriously, my best friend growing
up was fourteenth to March. My best friend who is
my best man at the wedding sixteenth tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I'm fifteen.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
My closest friend in La is eighteenth of March. Wow,
it's just it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
And I'm eighth of March.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Same as my sister who I'm really good friends with.
Eighth of March.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yeah, pist season virgos.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
Well, I assume there are so many I knows in cancers.
Really that's the same as cancer.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Thanks, we got to talk to that.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Well, well, yeah, maybe you should have them on the show,
all right. What I wanted to do is I wanted
to play a game that we created for you. So
your show is called Friends Keep Secrets. We came up
with Friends Don't Keep Secrets. Really creative things, you know.
But we played a couple's game with Benny, so we
thought we'd play a troples game with you.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I'm gonna give you one of these. We did this
for Bennie and Selina.

Speaker 7 (52:29):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
This is all about Kristin first. Cool. So the way
this work is the players will write down their partners
potential answers to questions before comparing answers. So this is
all about Kristin. We're both going to guess. We're all
going to guess what hopefully Kristen writes down, and then
we're going to see and then we're going to do
each of you and you've write down your arm.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
We're right now what we think Kristin is rinning correct?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Correct. If Kristin could change one thing about Dave, what
would it be.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I always had a fear of playing this type of
I just would feel bad about like, do I not
know anything about the people that I'm so close with,
but I am confident.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
In your answer. I feel like, you know this is
so fun like it's like, uh, I literally say it
out loud all the time.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
So the question is, if Kristin could change one thing
about Dave, what would it be. Christen, please reveal your
answer that he.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Likes wine what I don't like wine.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
The one thing I would change would be that you
like to drink wine you don't like change it.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I don't think you understood. Hold on, shouldn't she be No,
if Kristin could change one thing about Dave, what would
it be? She would change that you would like wine,
that you wouldn't change that.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I don't like wine?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, correct, correct? So what did you write?

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I thought this was definitely the answer how I chew
and smack my lips when.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I eat mine, was going on dates or being more fun?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Well, I think that they're all.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I'm certain she was going to put that.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
I thought you. I was one hundred percent sure you
were going to say that.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
I mean I literally say all the time I say
I wish you drank wine.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I mean wine is kind of in the same world
being fine.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
The reason I didn't I don't write this.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Did you think about that.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
No, but you're also really good about not getting annoyed
when I get annoyed with you about that?

Speaker 5 (54:08):
But were you thinking about mine a little too?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Well, I guess I figured yours would be that I
knew what he was gonna write.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
My mom has been complaining about the way that I
smacked my lips my whole life.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Well, you have a little bit of a problem.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Yeah, okay, what's all right?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Okay? So the next one is what's something Benny and
Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Actually, I'll just keep mine. There's two. There's two that
I actually know.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
So the question was, what's something Benny and Kristin always
sided with each other on that drives Dave crazy? Kristin,
please really.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Okay, I have two. The second the second one that
I'm about to say, I know he'll get mad about,
so you don't have to say it. Okay. Well, I
like to stir the pod. Okay, one working less two
because I would say putting music.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
No, No, Benny's on my side.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yeah, Dave said, Well, I'm something more coming off nicer.
While texting, I.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I wrote that I can be two hands on.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
No, I love that. Wait, look this is nice. This
is good feedback.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
We love your hands on.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
I thought you were going to I thought one of
you guys was going to say, are we.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Bad at this game?

Speaker 2 (55:22):
This is good. It's a hard game.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
We're learning new things about about each other.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
That we did know.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
The texting is a good guess.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
And the things that you're, the things that you think
you're that people don't like you. Actually they love it.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah nice, I love you.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, all right. When was the last time Kristen admitted
that she was wrong?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Hmm?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
What makes you think I remember wrong?

Speaker 4 (55:48):
There's too much wavering to know, because she'll go up
and down about the right and run.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Depends on what mood I'm in, I would say, I
would say, I think I can't remember. I'm just gonna
have a little do you know something? The last you
can give a time frame, Yeah, I'm doing that.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Yeah, like last month, ten years ago. They're gonna twelve
years ago, twelve months ago.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
I mean, I don't even know if I'm actually Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
You could ride that down if you want.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I'm trying to think. I mean, I'm so infrequently wrong,
it really it's hard to catch me.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I like the thinking going on. This is good. She's wrong.
What was the last time, she goes, Benny, you know
what I'm wrong? I admit it.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Well, we film it was the time that we filmed something.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Remember, only if she's caught in the act on the like, only.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
If I see the footage.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah, she's oh, yeah, that is that is I know. Yeah,
it's just a specific argument. There's an up.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, there's a few.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Yeah, what was I Oh, you.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Don't know if I'm wrong. I have to see the footage.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Saw.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
Basically, no, you don't even need to. It doesn't matter
free too much.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Basically, they got in an argument that Kristen was claiming
that Benny kind of said something brought something up to
get under her skin, and Benny was like, you're the
one who brought this thing up in the first place.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
She was like, no, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
And then we went into the control room and we
said play us back or how we even got here,
And then we watched the footage as we're filming the thing,
and Kristen did actually.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Brought it up, but you know, I get it.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Okay, next we did good.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
All right, we're going to switch to Dave now, this
is what about Dave. Who does Dave trust most for
on his feedback, not just in the group, in the world.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Oh, I know exactly what you're doing. I think I
know what you're But to me, the that's is actually
pretty simple.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
The answer is answers.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
All right. So the question was who does Dave trust
most funest feedback? Dave, please reveal.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Benny and Kristen. Is the answer to that question?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Now?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
I know they both probably think Jack and Henry No.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Oh, I said, what did you write?

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I said, me and Kristen, And then I said friends
from home. But I was thinking of the Joiner situation.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
But it wasn't. It was just that he was right.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
So yeah, both of them. Like look Benny, for music,
I no song would ever come out without having him
hear it and analyze it, critique hits, say it's worthy,
point out whatever flaws could exist. Christen's the the exact
same thing for like TV and film, like any script
or thing like I really trust both of their instincts.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
What did you write?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
I wrote, his mom or me or Jeff Schaffer or Benny.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
My mom told me not to be a rapper, she said, okay,
So but I think, yeah, just those two no questions.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I love that both of you are not narcissists. He
didn't write themselves, right, No.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Yeah, that's knew the it's not being a night.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
I just knew the answer.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Yeah, okay, what's our next?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
All right? So if you called Dave because you ran
someone over, would he help you bury the body? What
do you call the cops? Or would he tell you
to call the cops?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Reactions?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
It's Dave's wait.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
You know you're saying I kill I ran something?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, yeah, you ran someone over? Wait yeah yeah, And
then you call these guys and I'm saying, would you
tell them to wait wait wait confused.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
One of them?

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Sorry sorry if you called it sorry, If yes, my bad.
Thank you so much for correcting me. I was wrong.
Let this be in my statement that I admit it's wrong.
If you ran someone over and you called Dave, what's
he going to tell him what happened? Would he help
you bury the body? Would he call the cops himself?
Or would he tell you to disappear?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Disappears?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I'm matting at that. I'm changing what if I had
the opportunity to change it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
But is it our fault though? Or was it an accident.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
It's an accident. Obviously you didn't do it on purpose.
What would Dave tell you to do? This is this
is a test of Dave's character.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yeah, I like framing it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Yeah, I feel like I know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I feel like I have the black marker Oliver, because
I've been doodling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
All right, Dave, what would you do? I can see
your's day, But they would disappear. They would tell you
you tell him to disappear. I never want to see
you again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Wow, I was kidding about the second sentence. But I disappear,
I disappear, Get out of here, go good.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
I said he would analyze all the facts at hand.
That's what I would do.

Speaker 8 (01:00:51):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
That's a great answer that conversation, Kristin, What did you
said he would.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Tell he would to call the cops? I think at
the end, I think he.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
Would have to analyze all the facts at hand.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I talk about this. This is the first question we've
really had.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Don't you agree.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
I definitely wouldn't bury the bot like I think I
would talk. I can't get I can't get wrapped up
in criminal activity like that. But nor would I call
the cops like behind their back. Ever, I think I
would try to convince that person why the thing to
do is just call the cops.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
I think you'd have to analyze all the facts or.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Disappear, yet disappear you would do the right thing ultimately. Yes,
but here's what. I'm not willing to bury a body
for you or anyone. I am willing to perhaps hear
of something and just pretend that I never heard of it. Yeah,
that's changed the subject.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Change the subject, chang.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
He does you do a lot of OCD around that subject?

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
All right, all right, okay, we'll do We'll do Benny.
We'll do Benny. A couple of questions on Benny good
stuff with Dave. What's something Benny pretends doesn't bother him
but actually does?

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
He doesn't really ever pretend he does.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I did, Okay, I'm sure I'm gonna try to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
You can have to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Kristen could get this right?

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
What is it? Or do I do mine? First?

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Putting things in my fridge incorrect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I was gonna say that, I don't think you pretend
that that doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I do for anyone else except Kristen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
I was gonna say it. Then I'm like, you're so
overt least that's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Why you didn't let me put your stuff in the
fridge today. No, no, no, no, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
I just wanted to be taken out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
If he puts out something musically that has the potential
to go number one and it doesn't go number one,
he'll say to everyone else, I'm not bothered by not
going number one, but I think it bothers him to
not go number one, go number two. If number one

(01:02:49):
is a cheat. You know, certain songs they have no chance,
certain albums they have a chance. So not going number one, they're.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Saying, if it's achievable, you're saying, if it's a cheating,
if like, if I'm gonna go if I'm going to
go sixty, doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
But if I'm going to go number two, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
If you have the expectation that a number one is
within reach and you go three or two or ten,
you're annoyed, which I will tell you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
I'm going to tell you answer after.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
And then my other thing is, uh, Benny's favorite line
as of this year is I don't care about anything.
I've never heard Benny say anything more than I don't
care about you about anything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
And I think.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Oftentimes that will say that when we're talking about something
that we both care about, and if it seems like
I want something that he doesn't wantah, he will say
I don't care about anything, but I know he cares.
He just wants to stop talking about it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Yeah, okay, and then I'll answer them all act good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah, go on, Christy, mine is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Not sticking with the plan, like with a plan or
the plan, which is kind of in relation to like,
I think I don't care about anything. If you, I think,
if you if you start to feel the loss of
control instead of that, Benny will just be like, I
don't care about anything, doesn't matter, Benny, you have to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Defend yourself this thing I don't feel.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
I don't even understand it, really, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
What do you mean it's not sticking with the plan?

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
What more do you need to understand?

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
I don't understand that I don't care about anything. Is
like this to me when I'm having a conversation with someone.
I'll just use Dave as the example. When I'm talking
to someone and like usually pretty quickly into a conversation,
I can figure out whether this person is going to

(01:04:39):
be like even receptive to like the information that I'm saying,
or whether I think that they're they have like something
made up in their mind and like there's such a
minute chance of me changing it. And then I say,
in my head, I say, well, is this ever going
to change? Is it that important if it doesn't, And

(01:05:02):
then just to nip it in the butt, I'll be like,
I don't really care about it. And then that's my
thing with the number one thing. It used to be
very true to me. That used to be so true
to me. I was fixated on getting the number one
at any cost, like even if it was number forty.
Like I was like I like had to I used
to be when I was younger. I used to really

(01:05:25):
really care so much that I felt like I wasn't
even enjoying the things in front of me because I
was like so like i'd get the number one, like
in something, I'd be the best at it, like I'd
have like a number one Billboard record, and then I'd
be not even like celebrating. I'd be like, yeah, that's cool,
and then like move on to the next thing, and

(01:05:45):
I wouldn't even think about it. And I feel like
I feel like that was so true to me for
so many years of my life and honestly until pretty recently,
until probably like four years ago, and then it was
really solidific honestly with with Selena, because I felt like
I won, I want it, and I already did. I

(01:06:07):
already know that, Like I solidified what I wanted to do,
and it was like the first time in my life
where I didn't care. That doesn't mean that if it
is in sight, I'm going to do everything in my
physical power to try to do the best thing I can,
because that's just the type of person I am. I
love the competition, I love striving for the greatness, but
it doesn't have the same importance that it did have

(01:06:28):
on me for so long.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
It used to have me in like a choke hold.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
And then like I felt like I was finally freed
of that, like in the last like four or five years,
and it was like so free.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
But I understand both sides, I completely do. I understand.
Like I used to be the guy looking every week
at the chart seeing if we were.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Getting close, and I was so I put so much
importance on it, and I don't even know why I did,
because I didn't even care when I got it, Like,
but I think I did care, but I was so
fixated on getting the net.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
I'm probably just leaved when you got Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Yeah, I think I was probably just relieved and it
was like such a rat race, and I'm so happy
to be free of it. But I do also understand
that side of me when I was so into it,
because I'm like, yeah, that's cool to do that, but
it is also cool to be like totally free of it.
And I think the healthy medium is probably somewhere in
the well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Thank you guys. Thinking of a playing that started off
some really intense conversations. We can do a few more.
I can take you to an ending. Three questions I'd
like to.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Do a few.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Should cancel all your plans after I'm staying all right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Okay, these are more fun ones. Who is most likely
to survive a zombie apocalypse? Now you get to free

(01:07:58):
for all right anywhere?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
When it has to be out of the three of us, yes,
three to one?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Reveal Oh why Benny everyone the same best? And why Ben?

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
I just have more skill?

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Like I'm the last question those two, and I just
think men physically are stronger than women? What physically?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
But why would that have to come in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
It's just I'm gone.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I thought it was like going by like resourcefulness.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Well, then I definitely would win because I feel like
I can strategically.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Christians pretty athletic too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
No, I just mean, well, yeah, I don't know. My
instinct was the same.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
That's not me. I haven't rated each other on difference. Okay,
what's all right? The next question is who takes the
longest to apply to text? You're pretty responsive.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Respond to every Oh, Kristen.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
No, Christen's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Christ is terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
I thought you always made fun of me. I never response.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Actually, I actually think Christian's worse than you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Just don't respond because both of them that she responded,
Kristen didn't never texted me since we met. So that
says it will.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Respond to only me, and she responds to me relatively timely.
Benny will respond to and she doesn't respond to anyone else.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Ever, No, that's not true. Let me say this. I
mean I do, I did. I do have a little
bit of anxiety with texting. Yeah, so, I and I
don't like to ever feel like I have to do
some like I don't wake up in the morning and
read my text like I think that's where I am
going wrong. And now I have like I think, sixteen
hundred unread text messages.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
It's gonna be it's gonna be a lot more dms.
And well, I don't look.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
At my dms. I've never looked at them. She's not
in public, but I don't even look at my friends
DA Dave is still not going to be public.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
No, I don't think you should.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Anny Benny responds to every text like no matter what, agree,
it's just there's like a seventy two hour back up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Yeah, and he does it. You know, he's doing it
in the morning, and it will like sometimes he'll respond
to like a text that doesn't even make sense anymore,
and you'll just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Get like ha ha ha ha ha, respond to like
a group chat like two days later and it's so
not relevant anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
But everyone's moved on.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
I'm catching up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, my text and spurts like you'll you'll if I'm
like paying attention to my phone, I'll have a I'll
be there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Kristen, like you know, her parents will be like, hey,
do you think you can tell Kristen to respond.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
To I got a text on the way here from
my mom that was saying, hey, could you read the
family text and please respond no way? And I thought,
I am in the car.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
She's the worst that text. She really is the same.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
My phone's a beeper, it's just for emergency.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
I'll respond instantly with way too much, with too much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
I appreciate that because then I feel like there's text
you to the text and like we can actually get somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
They I'll text you just so you know that I'm capable.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I'm waiting for that text. I've been texting with these
guys for like a year and a half now, Yeah,
well okay, next one. Who would accidentally start a cult?
God reveal.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
I'm one of the people. I'm trying to think. We
wouldn't be your yours.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
You're you have more of like the soothing thing like
your your Your message could like read like being like trank. Well,
like no one wants to join our The.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Reason I said Kristen, I only said Kristen because.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I could definitely be like a cult Kristin.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Everyone likes Kristen, and Kristen loves everyone she meets and
thinks she's going to be the best friend. So it's
like so many people that she runs into. She could
end up thinking that they're going to be close and
then all of a sudden there's like, you know, a
cult somehow, I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:11:38):
Know, style your hair to be like us today. Yeah,
I was like, it's very always like that. You guys
all have like it's the first time we've had three
people with Cuddy.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
You got the staff? Do they give you all? I'm
making them up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
You guys do have the same hairstyle.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
We have like variations of longer, would it like throw out? Yeah,
it's like my head's like my head is like this
naturally yeah. Yeah, but it's like I feel like it's
it's like evolution of hairs, like me to Dave to Bennett.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
Right, it's like that it's evolution.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
It is evolution. What do you guys say, evolution? Evolution
like evolutions aluminium? Yeah, aluminum, aluminium, aluminium, aluminium.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
There's another iron, A few words. There's one word that
I can't think of it now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
And the food, the food, what do you call it?

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Yeah, you always say.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
It's like also people say they say so in America
you would say, like his name is Dave, but like
if we were British, we would say he's called Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
How do you say innovative? That's innovative.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
That's what you said.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
It's I to think about it now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Nonchalant you said funny too. Oh no, you said it
said something different.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I say, do you want me to be less? Chalan wow?

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I like chalantalone?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
All these are the last three because these are you
don't have to write for these anymore. These are questions
given by so before the show. You can keep those
white boys the no't keep. I asked you each for
a question you'd like me to ask the other two
people in the room.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Oh yeah, so it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
So these are the answer questions you gave. We'll start
with Benny. So Benny's question to both of you, and
the answer has to be in one sentence. I'll maybe
let you expand. The question from Benny is how do
you separate work from your relationship? If you're disagreeing in work,
does it spill over into personal and vice versa.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I would say that we well, I think you've been
a part of it. Dave and I are really it's
just like the one thing that's great about our relationship
and now I feel similarly with Benny is that we
can you can like have arguments and we can get
upset with each other and then like instantly kind of
once we feel like we've turned over the stones in
the argument or like gotten to a place it's never

(01:14:10):
carried over, Like we've never been Have we ever been
mad more than a day? Even if a day, I
don't think we've ever been mad for a full day.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I've never been mad.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Oh you guys, Yeah, are you asking about us too?

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
You said something about me?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yeah, sorry, going to take it away.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I think he asked the question because we work so
like beyond even just our multi media creation. You know,
any script she writes, I'm a part of that with her.
Any script I write, she's a part of that with me.
So it's really she's not a part of my musical
process though. That's my I get separation there because she

(01:14:50):
likes more poppy stuff that I am just like.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
No, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
She doesn't like she's the opposite. She likes less pop.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
One time, I gave you a bunch of thoughts. She
doesn't like to show me his music.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I hate showing her. She doesn't listen to lyrics. Yeah,
so I could show her a recording of me where
the verses are we know how and she would like
that just as much as me like doing really clever lyrics.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
He also we we tried. He tried to show me
his music once, but it was so I had to
he literally like pulled up the chair directly in front
of the computer. It was blasting, the speakers were blasting,
and I wasn't allowed to move, and I just it
had to be under his.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Hate was the experience because you have to say there.
I tell him I'm not sitting there, don't show me
the music.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Yeah, So then this is what we.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
The question to answer Benny's original question, how do we separate?
I mean we, I selfishly don't always feel the need
to because I when we're talking about work or whatever
we're working on, I find it so inspiring and fun
and like I'm just like, to me, there's like nothing

(01:16:00):
more fun to talk about now, So I look at
it as like this is great. I get to have
fun with my best friend and we're being productive at
the same time. Now, you know, sometimes I feel like,
you know, I remember when I originally started dating Kristen
and I learned that she kind of has the same
exact interest and passions professionally as I do. I did
have the thought, oh, man, like is it would I

(01:16:23):
be better off marrying someone who was like an English
teacher and there was like complete separation of church and state.
But now seeing the opposite, I'm so happy that we
get to connect over the thing. Like you know, I
think there's just such a joy to me when I
get to talk about the things I care the most
about in life, which unfortunately is work. Now I'm not

(01:16:44):
working like some corporate drudgery job. I'm working on like
the self expression of my soul. So it's different to
be like, oh, there's no separate I'm not like working
in an accounting firm. Like I'm talking about, you know,
how to tell these stories that I feel born to tell,
and she's it's fun, like we're talking about funding creative shit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
But you've helped me become I would say that like
you've you've given me more confidence professionally. The good thing
about us working together is you've given like I feel
like over the few years that we've kind of like
really co meshed our professional lives. I kind of come
come from a place of like more self doubt and
like insecurity, and he's really helped me get like the

(01:17:22):
kind of confidence to even be doing this and writing
and stuff. I feel like it's been really I'm so
thankful that you're like a good mentor and a husband.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Great answers, guys, beautiful, really nice. That felt good.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
But we should we should we should go on more
dates without talking about Yeah, that's the newest.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Thing that I had to say. I think sometimes I
will be like, especially with the anxiety that I've had,
which I'm on a new path forward and I'm a
new person and I no longer create this self inflicted
torture of like anxiety about the podcast in particular. But
there was a period where I was like, we have
to stop talking about work all the time because I

(01:18:01):
can't like mentally break away from it. And it was
I just I wasn't but no, I'm now, you can
sign me up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
When was the time where I was like, I don't
want to talk about this right now, and you kept
talking or you were homed doesn't matter, yeah, because I
was about to do something with music where I just
had to be in like the state of mind that
and I was in such a good mood. I had
no anxiety about anything with like the podcaster or whatever
you want to call it, and she I said, I
don't want to talk about it right now, and she

(01:18:31):
just wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Well, this is an interesting I did start going to
therapy because I was like, it's important that he can't
always be the like I have such a tendency when
I have anxiety to like, for me to get over
my anxiety, I have to say every thought that I have,
which it used to be okay. I mean, I'm sure
it's exhausting for him, but it used to not be
so related to what he was doing. So therapy has

(01:18:54):
been helpful because instead of like taking him on, which
is still very supportive, but like I don't have to, like,
I felt like I was like bringing him down. So
the therapy now is a lot easier for me to
like just mentally spiral and then I'm not putting it
on you. So we've learned a little. We've we've kind
of like started to create some boundaries.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
And I learned know now not to get her worked
up when she's in bed and I don't know not
to like if I sometimes I'm I come in and
I come with the idea of like we should do
this that, and then she and yeah, she needs to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Well no, I just would get like wrapped up and excited.

Speaker 8 (01:19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Me and my wife felt like so like I'm the
one who comes to bed and wants to chat and
talk and yeah, and she does not want to and
she's like, first thing in the morning, wants to chat
and talk. And I'm like, ye, I need to like
gear up slowly so I get that. Yeah, that's beautiful, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
You to though I have to thought in the morning though.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
So this was Kristen's question for Benny and Day. Do
you guys talk about me when I leave the room?

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
You have to answer, honestly, not really?

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Now cool?

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
Not really.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
This was a hard thing to a hard question.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I couldn't, but it's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Only time I remember that is at New Year's when
I was like, what are you guys talking about? And
then Dave said, I'm not at liberty to tell you,
and then he said he said, and he was just
and then I was like all right, and then we
just started talking about something else. And then when you
came over, you were like, are you talking about me?

(01:20:21):
And we weren't talking about you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Question I asked a lot this paranoia that as soon
as I leave the room, But I know that it's
mostly more of a joke. I know you guys are No,
we never really talked. Oh do you guys say positive
Do you say positive things behind my back?

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
He said no. Yeah, I've said like we do.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
I've said like I was so blown away by how
well Kristen's done, Like I remember we talked about that before.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
So you told you we talk about you the way
I don't know we guys talk about their wives or
it's not like we're not like talking about you professionally
that often.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Yeah, there's never, and there's never.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Do you never?

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
You can't have this fear, Dave's never.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
I live on. I always am like.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Thinking about like, are they all guys are talking about me?

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
And if they and if you guys are talking about
either there's a reason or like they're upset with something
or I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Yeah, yeah, I think I care. I care too much
what people think. So I'm always like, even though it's
like kind of half joking, I will I thought everybody
felt this way. Be like a lot of people do, yeah,
like be like as soon as I leave I'll be like,
I wonder, even if it's not bad, I just wonder
if they're being like, yeah, she was talked a lot
that time, or she said that really a bad question.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
She has so much self doubt and like circular thoughts
of negativity that are our brains are like, I think
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
I think so much of that is women's conditioning in
society even and women in society, like that's my take
on I was going and serious, deadly serious. When I
took to all my male friends, they will feel the
same way. And then I took to my my friends,
they all feel that way, like what that's that's you know,
you can't then just ignore it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Yeah, And I think it's been a little bit more.
It's been more exaggerated just because of the like the
uncertainty about all of this being public.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I feel like I live your hairs in your mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
I'm sorry you can't see it from me to I
didn't see it either.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
I told you to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
I tell him to do this thing, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Yeah, it's been exacerbated because you're dealing with me and
Bennie are also even though yes we're men, we're like
even public for so long yeah, we're like the two
no one believes in themselves more than me and Benny,
like we don't know. So it's like that compared to
self doubt, it makes it feel even more of a yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
But I'm doing a lot better because I realized that.
I realized that so much of my self doubt is
like my default narrator, like in my head. And I
feel like this podcast will help me. I don't know,
I could just crumble you guys for seeing me again
not in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
A bad way where you're so aware. I think, you know,
I think part of it is just as hard as
you are in yourself. You don't give yourself enough credit
as well, but like you're so aware of what's going
on in your mind. I think if you're not aware,
that's when it's really bad.

Speaker 8 (01:23:14):
Great.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I like to hear that, yeah, yeah, ok, yeah, all right.
Final question This was Dave's question. I saved what I
believed to be the best for last. Thank you Dave's question. So,
Dave's question to Kristin and Benny is if I died,
how often would you guys hang out or see each other?

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Wow? I feel like if you die, that'd be so
heartbreaking and we'd be sharing. We'd be like experiencing similar pain.
Well me more. But I can't speak on half of Benny.
Maybe I don't know frequently, I don't know like as
much as we could.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
But check first, obviously I would enit all the things,
do I know how you had like them? And I'd
find a way. Yeah, fine, well first I was talking
about the show. Then for then i'd edit. Yeah, I'd
make sure to get the right features. That we've spoken

(01:24:13):
enough of it, i'd be able to at least there's
like fifteen songs. I could cobble together something great and
I would and I would do that, and I would make.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Sure not but would you hangs cobble?

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
No, no, to make something like truly like, yeah, do
it hanging out with me?

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Isn't that the question?

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
No, no, this was she would she'd be clearly would
you involve her in the clearly no no, no no,
but I would involve her, and I roll out no, no,
I didn't involve her.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Would I still be invited to like the dinner parties?

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
Yeah, I think I would hang out with you. I
think you would.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Well, I'd like you to feel like my my dave role,
like I feel like you. I feel like I'd be
calling you like every day.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
And it would be so you can't you have to
we have to protect you at all.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Or would you guys be so reminded of me when
you saw each other that you'd actually have to never
see each other ever again?

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
No, no, we'd see each other all the time I died.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Would you guys just replace me?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
What for the show? No?

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Just be a two person show? Right? No, it would
be done?

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Or would we keep I don't know. I wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
I wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I'm glad you got all the footage though, Yeah, no
one's dying.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I hate talking about this, even though I know we've
got footage again and everyone needs facts. But you, guys, Bran,
I am so I mean, just spending time with you
makes me just love the show even more. But I
want to say to all of you, like truly, you
guys trusting me, giving me this opportunity to do this
with you has been a highlight of my professional career,
like to work with all three of you, because it's

(01:25:48):
very rare that when you're like you know, when I
started my podcast seven years ago, I never thought i'd
be helping create something amazing with the vision of all
three of you, and I feel so lucky and fortune that.
So thank you for the gift, thank you for the blessing,
and thank you for the opportunity just the.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
Same way we love you. You're our mentor definitely no, no, no,
I know you're your your You're like the you're You're
so good to bounce all this stuff. I feel like
you've already laid you know, laid the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
We're just trying to. I don't think it's that you
guys had a vision, you know what you're building. I
think it's been It's been fun getting the opportunity to
be a part of it. That's how I feel about it.
So thank you for letting me a bit part of
your crazy vision.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Thank you for hearing our desires and not scoffing at
them and doing your best to make it all happen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Yeah. Absolutely, friends keep secret, excited.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Friends, Friends on purpose on three Friends on Purpose.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
If you love this episode, you will really enjoy my
episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critique and
how to speak to yourself with more compassion.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
There's blessing in the breaking and every moment that you
encounter in your life, even if it's just road rage,

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