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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nashley and the jam In Morning Show with DJ fourn
It saw taking morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Bostin's number one for hip hop jam in ninety four
or five.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well, let's let's just go ahead and be prepared to
offend with this conversation.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
If you're offended by this conversation, then this is a
cry for help that you need, that you need to
hear for yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
People get offended by this. I just I know it
to be true. I'd be in mommy circles. I know
how people feel about this.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
This is one of those things that to each their own.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
If you're sleeping with your seven year old kid, that's
on you. I'm not that's not for me, but maybe
that's for you. Courtney Kardashian went viral yesterday. She was
doing a podcast and she talked about co sleeping.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
My oldest son slept with me till he was seven.
I mean also part of it. At a certain time,
I would put him to bed in his room, and
then he would come in my room. She comes in,
and then at seven, he just he stopped and he
was like, I'm done with you. I sleep in my
own room. And then my daughter slept with me. Pretty
(01:15):
much till she was eleven.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, this may be too much information because we just met,
but I need to sometimes be able to get to her,
if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, kids there, Well you're.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Gonna have to use others. We figure it out. But yeah,
that's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Also, you just put locks on the theater door.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I will say, her noise is unway.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That both parents being aligned on that is really important.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm just gonna put this into perspective for you guys.
Her daughter Penelope that she's referring to, said she slept
in the bed until she was eleven.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Eleven.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Hey, she's twelve. Okay, so it was last year.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So now let's add in that when mom started dating
Travis Barker and Travis Barker started coming over for sleepovers.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
We're all in the butt.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Penelope's just chilling.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
We're all in the butt.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
My daughters are eleven, they're five for three. Like you
can't have they're like, it's like having an adult in there.
It's a crossing the line, Like you got to cut
the cord. Right, that's way too old, way too old.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Eleven eleven and she's only twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Like she's not there's a codependency.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I still yeah, I still think seven.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Cruz absolutely, And when they come back in the room,
you say, no, go back to bed. It's okay, easier.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Said than done, because I think that for people like
they just want to sleep, so that and that's where
it happens, right when you start sleep training and the
kids going into their own room, like it takes a
couple of days of you maybe not getting good night sleep,
but then to get forever good sleep. Layla has not
slept in our bed one time. And I see people's
(03:03):
photos of having like their two and their three year
olds in bed with them, and I'm like, oh, it
just looks so cozy and so comfy and so cute.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
He's not playing these no.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But couldn't you have that for a little bit and
then hey it's time for bed.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Could still do that? And it still can be done
and broke that happy can be broken within days weeks,
not years.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
She put it this way.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
She doesn't even know, like if I'll say to her, oh,
come lay down in the bed with mommy, she gets
under the coven and goes, we are we playing hide
and seek, like she doesn't understand it, which I'd rather
be that.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
But like we're getting into that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Daisy's three months, Like I said, in a couple of days,
I'll start we'll start sleep training.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
But again people think that that's heartless. But I'll have her.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
She'll be in her own room no later than nowhere
past four months, like four months. I honestly think she could.
She could go in there now, but she's my last babes.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Even if you did it for the next year, that's fine,
that's acceptable. But when you used to doing it at
seven to eleven all that stuff, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Then.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Also, no I'm saying, people think I'm crazy, like you heartless, But.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
The thing is like, how are you supposed to have
them to see with your partner with like a child
in bed with you?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Right?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Well those were people have feeder rooms.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, exactly. Why are you inconvenience in yourself for an
eleven year old?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
That's what I mean. Eleven?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, that's seven and eleven. That's a dependency issue there.
It's either that you caught or your kid too much,
or you yourself need a company.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Also, do we not?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Do we not think what I'm saying is kind of weird.
Like when Travis and her first sleepovers.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Penelope's weird because he's not the biological Yeah, he's coming
into the situation.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
To me, that's very weird. You had. I had one
of my boys, one of my friends, told me this story.
I thought it was crazy because I didn't think it
was It was really a thing that happened like that.
He said he met a shorty and they were kicking it,
and they would always kick it for a while. He
would go over to the crib. They would do they
do right. They're in the bed chilling and her young
and the young daughter would come and get into the bed.
My man's naked in the bed, by the way, and
(04:56):
the kid would just come like it was nothing and
just come right into bed with him. And he's like, Yo,
what is happening here that the kid is used to that?
You get what I'm saying right that that that's normal
to the kid. I'm coming into bed with my mom,
no matter who's in there with it, Bro, who's in
whose name?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm talking saying the girl daddy, right?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I got you first off, the fact that she doesn't
even say hold on baby, look and everyone's getting grass nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Then we started digging into it, a little bit deeper,
and the family was like, awkwardly close. You get what
I'm saying. They just did that.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We don't even need to hear that background. We know
how old would we say that kid was?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Oh man, the kid had to be maybe between six
and eight. It was before ten, but it was old enough.
Why it was weird?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Where they know what like a naked person is.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I'm like, yo, bro, I mean I'm just there,
like I laid up in the crab. We done went
out with them, done the other thing. It's early in
the morning on my shorty scrip and the kid just
walks right in and comes right into bed. I'm like, fam,
what is happening? And the mom never said a thing.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, because that's like her normal data exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's weird. I'm sorry, that's.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Why can't we just stop this like behavior? That's like
wow the card bro?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I'd rather do you do what Ashley's doing and
call her heartless then let your kid be like fifteen, Oh,
I've gotten h I want to have sex, go to
the theater room.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, why yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It fills me on when I posted the first night,
I remember this because the first night that I put
Layla when she slept in her room by herself. I
want to say she was three and a half months.
I posted a picture of me and the fireman alone
in the bed and we were holding hands, and I
was like, wow, it's it's our first nights where you know.
(06:49):
Then the amount of nasty messages I got, you're not
co sleeping, Like how dare you put the baby in
her room by herself. I'm her mother, Yeah, so I
know when she's okay or not to do that. But yeah,
I got a lot of hate from people because again
it's I'm in these circles now, these moms.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
They fill the type of way.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
If you there's the co sleepers and then there's the
non coast sleepers, and for some reason there's beef.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I mean, we're the extreme opposite where like I think
our kids didn't sleep one night in our bedroom. There
was she was they were in like their own room
first night. I'm trying to remember my boys first night,
new born night, new born night, first home from the hospital,
other room.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
No way.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Maybe for our first it was a couple of nights,
but that was it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, I don't think I like my boys slept in
our bed at all, but.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
In the bast and net next to the bed.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
No different room that monitor on. Okay, hey, I'm sorry,
I'm just get yellow.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
They only had on Saturday, so there wasn't a reason
to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
You doing perfect, co sleeper, the perfect. We're not doing
anything in here. This ben collects dust. Come on in,
come on if you are somebody do now do we
think anybody because we all agree on this, so I
don't know if we'll get a co sleeper to call it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, okay, fine, we are judging. You need to be judging.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Maybe somebody that's listening off the phone's already ringing. Maybe
somebody you know is a co sleeper and they they
want to, you know, fight us on this to each
their own six one seven nine three one one nine
four five six one seven nine three one one nine
four five. Courdy Kardashian's eleven year old kid was sleeping
in bet with her in what world? Yeah, we got
(08:46):
to six one seven nine three one one nine five Wait, Hi, everybody,
good morning. Fashing the jam in morning show. Courty Kardashian
went viral yesterday. She was on a podcast and she
was talking about co sleeping. She had this to say.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
My oldest son slept with me till he was seven.
I mean also part of it, like at a certain
time I would put him to bed in his room,
and then he would come in my room.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
My daughter does, she comes in.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And then at seven, he just he stopped and he
was like, I'm done with you. I sleep in my
own room. And then my daughter slept with me pretty
much till she was eleven.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Well, this maybe too much information because we just met,
but I need to sometimes be able to get to her,
if you know what I.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Mean, Yeah, you need to do here. Eleven. That's eleven.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
They're on their phones by that point, so they're on
TikTok while I were sleeping in the same bed.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Candace is in prov Candace, I salute you because I
was like, nobody we've all agreed on the non co
sleeping thing. I'm like, no one's gonna call and fight
for it. But I appreciate you talk to me. How
old is your son?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Right of all?
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Good morning, I love you you every morning.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
We love you too.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
He is seven, so my oldest one's gonna eighteen. He
slept with me, so he was like two. And then
his grandma was like no. He used to put him
in his own bed. He had his own bed, big
boy bed, had his own room. It was difficult, but
I did it. So then I'm like, I'm not doing
that ever again. I have my two meddle children, had
four bays, my two middle ones. I put them in
(10:17):
the bedroot away in my room in the criber basnet,
so there was next to me. But I didn't want
to do that again. But I have my little one
who's seven, and he just never left the bed, and
even when I try, he'll still end up back in
my bed. And my boyfriend, who's not my oldest three
father's children, this is the only baby. So he's like
(10:40):
wow when he's ready. So it just came to the
boy where I don't fight it no more. It does
suck because he is huge, and I end up like
on the edge of the bed and feared that my
eye is gonna get poked up by the nightstand.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
But listen, I'm everybody, Mom, Tell them Mom, have we
have we had the Do you want to go to
your big boy bad call yet?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
And he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
He says, when I turn When he was six, he said,
when I turn seven. Now he turned seven, he said
when I turned eight. So he's not ready. No, no, no,
it will definitely not be sea. My bag is my
bed is not enough, it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean I feel like you were different because you're you.
You want him out, You're not, you know, like.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I think I don't.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Always want him out when he when he sleeps out,
or if I like the other night, I put him
in his bed and then I'm like, I miss him,
but he ended up act in my bed anyway. So
but I'm just so used to with spend seven. He
has already of him right in the middle, you know.
So it's just what I'm used to. I'm not good
with change, Like it's not I'm not going with change.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Not only that so.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Might be a you thing.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
It is.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I mean we even gets from the bed sometimes, like
it's not as the probably people the best girls and
I know, but she's at the end of the bed.
So it's again did you say the.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Chiua the dog?
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
People think that scroses too. I do that too.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's fine, our Candice, Well, thank you, thank you for that,
thank you for the call.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I mean, she's like she wasn't as defensive.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
As the coach sleepers usually get but but but that's
not her son like her son's probably like good.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like no whoever whoever that boy marries. Oh my god,
sin is in.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Hi Sin hi Hi?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
How are you good?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
You have four kids?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I do.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
They have all had their own beds, their own bedrooms,
but I've never pushed them into their own beds or
pushed them out of mind. It's a known thing that
if they want to sleep with me, they can. My
eldest daughter, she's my room. Until she was probably a teenager,
she had her own bed, but she's come in mine.
(13:00):
We just have kind of sleepovers. We talk until we'd
fall asleep, so she'd just stay in my room. And
my middle children they would come in more when they
had like bad dreams, nightmares or whatever, just a comforting
thing when they were younger. And my youngest he really
never slept alone. He sucked in my bed until probably
(13:23):
who was maybe eight years old, nine years old, but
he just kind of chose when it was time to
sleep in his own room. But I just think it's
something that you don't get for the rest of your life.
You only get it while they're young. So I enjoyed
it while they were there.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Okay, I will be honest with you. The teen part
is a little uncomfortable for me.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
But yeah, like the.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Way you're describing the way you're describing it, like, oh,
we were chatting and then we fell asleep, Like I
get what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But she's still sleeping in your bed as a teen
and you know, But I also I don't.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
I'm not gonna be different if I had a bunch
of boyfriends or something like that. But I didn't. I
wasn't ever with their father really, and I was single
for a long time after we broke up. So it
was just me and my kids.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Who is anyone in the bed right now?
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Right now? No?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Okay, all right, all right, you're on, you're on the
EP and off.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah listen.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
Yeah, they've all flown the coop. Yeah, they're all older
now all Yeah. My youngest was probably the longest in
the bed.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But okay, Well, thank you for the call, and thank you.
Like I said, I think people are it's not easy
to call you. Those two were not the usual. They
were both very relaxed, nice. It's not like, well that's
a dependency is super it's clearly both on them.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, like you want that kid in that bed? Someone
Anonymous a call, but she ended up hanging out. But
she said she slept in her bed with her mom
and so she was fifteen. That's a problem. Listen. Her
brother was eleven, I think, she said, and she said
it was their secret Dad didn't know. When Dad would
come home at five am in the morning, they would
split to their bed.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
What what's the secret?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Like what his house? Because they probably knew that if
Dad came home and found a fifteen year old ye
sleeping in bed with the mom. So it'll be like,
are you crazy? What is going on here? Seen films
like I'm sorry to me that somebody who's dependent on
companionship and nah, you got to break that happen on me?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, you know dad leaves a vega. Alright, what I've
seen it, I've watched all the time.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I just want to escape this conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
But I also want to say how proud I am
of use on what the fact that Santi didn't once
mention justin from down the hall's kid.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
That you seek in bed till he was that's you
know what that is.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Growth he's thirteen, he's still in the bit on a
bunk bed. That's my issue.