May 7, 2020 • 32 mins
Professional golfer and nurse, Sarah Hoffman, steps into the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon and talks about her decision to step in as a nurse and what life is like day-to-day at the hospital. Sarah also talks about the grind on the Symetra Tour and she reveals her favorite volunteer caddie story.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, a production of
I Heart Radio. Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon.
I am your host, Shane Bacon, and we're starting something
new this week, Fun Positive. If you will, We're gonna
do a few episodes in a row with people in
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and around the golf community that are helping out and
going above and beyond during this COVID pandemic. And we
are starting with a young lady who plays golf on
the Symmetric Tour named Sarah Hoffman. And Sarah is a
nurse some of the year and a golfer some of
the year, and she bounces back and forth between both jobs.
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And she went back to the hospital once all of
this became obviously a huge thing. Sarah went back to
the hospital that she has worked at in the winters
when golf is on hiatus and said, I'll help out
any way possible. And I had a chance to chat
with here for a good amount of time, about half
an hour. We talked about the decision to go back
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and what it was like, and the golf game and
where it is at this current state, and how little
golf she's been able to play and the plans for
the rest of the year. It was a great conversation,
and this is something that I'm gonna keep doing over
the next few weeks. Is I'm gonna talk to some
people in and around the golf community that have done
something different, as that guy said above and beyond to
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help out any and always possible, And I just figured
it would be a way for you to maybe know
a little bit more about people that are doing these things.
That is the hope to all you out there. I
hope you're being safe. I hope you're being smart. I
hope you're staying healthy. I hope you were being positive.
That is also a big part of this, trying to
stay positive through all this. I know a lot of
states are opening up golf. More and more states are
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doing that. Just again, be smart when you do that.
Golf is a great way to go out and do something.
Arizona has allowed golf basically this entire time. I don't
think there was day golf was shut down in the
state I live in. But we've you know, just I
bring my own water bottles and I wet my towel
before I go to the golf course. Now I've got
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to obviously rewat it a couple of times because it's
like a hundred and thirty degrees in Arizona right now.
But you know, I bring hand sanitizer. I attached it
on my golf bag, and I'm just trying to do
little things that I know would cause me to touch
stuff that I don't want to touch when I'm on
the golf course. So just try to think. Think of
all the stuff you touch when you're on a golf course.
If you have an old golf glove, like an old
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nasty glove that you want to throw away, use that one.
If you've got to pick up, you know, range range
ball buckets, or if you've got to use it to
punch in a code to get your range balls. Little
things like that always helpful, just easy ways to avoid
touching stuff. As we continue to go through this, let's
let's get to Sarah. I want to I want you
all to hear her story, and we welcome into the
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clubhouse somebody. I'm I'm excited to chat with Sarah Hoffman,
a professional golfer on the Semmetra Tour. But that it's
not why we're going to chat Sarah. I want to
chat about some other things. But before we get to
those things, I wanted you too. You know, we've got
golf people listening and people that know a lot about
the PGA Tour and the LPGA Tour. Can you just
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explain to people a what the semetritory is and how
long you've been out there in your career through professional golf. Yeah, awesome,
thanks for having me, Shane. Um. So, the Smutra Tour
is the developmental tour for the LPGA, So it works
like the Corn Farry Tour whereat the end of the year,
there's UM ten cards that are up for grabs, so
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the top ten on the money list every year go
directly to the LPGA and then um based on how
you finish on the money list, you can go to
certain levels of Q School and try and earn your
way out of the LPGA through that way as well.
And how long have you been playing, you know, bouncing
on the semmeritore. I know you've played some LPGA as well.
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Know you've played some Q school as well. How long
have you been out on the Semetric Tour. So I've
been trying on the Semetric Tour since two thousand sixteen.
In two sixteen, I got partial status for the seventeen
season and I played four events, and then last year,
two thousand nineteen was my first full year on Sumetra.
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And this is why I had you on, not because
I don't want to talk about your golf game, because
I would like to talk about your actual golf game.
But we are going through unprecedented times. Everybody listening knows
that obviously, with COVID and and self isolation and quarantining,
it is a weird time in society and civilization. And Sarah,
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you have done something that I think everybody will be
massively impressed with, something that I feel like a lot
of people a can't do and maybe wouldn't do, is
you put the golf clubs away. Obviously, Symmetric Tour is
on hiatus now, as every professional sport is. But you're
someone that as a nursing degree and you've gone back
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to help out. And I just wanted to start with
the decision there because I know you spent a lot
of the off season at at a at a hospital.
You said, it looks like you spend basically October to
January at a hospital, and then you get back into golf.
The decision personally for you to get back into a
hospital and try to help out. Yeah, so the decision
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to go back to the hospital was a little bit
limited on information. We knew. We had played the first
event on so much with part and then our California
swing got canceled, and so I was just waiting for
an update to figure out when we were supposed to
resume season UM. I was in Atlanta at the time
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and trying to get a travel contract, which means anywhere
from Usually it's a third team week contract UM, but
due to the pandemic, they for offering shorter contracts from
four to eight weeks, and so I was trying to
figure out what contract I could sign that wouldn't I
wouldn't interfere with my ability to play as many tournaments
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as I could on Sumetra, especially if we're going to
have a limited season with limited events. I knew I
couldn't necessarily afford to give up an event or to
to UM to the field where they could be making
money and and I couldn't, So I was waiting for
an update. Once we got an update, I tried to
get a travel nursing job in Atlanta, but I've never
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worked as a travel nurse, so that position didn't come.
But um, you know, I had this temp job at
Michigan Medicine, and Michigan was one of the hotbeds. Um
is one of the hotbeds, and so I, uh, it
was a tough decision. I think it's hard when there's
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any amount of uncertainty that um, it's it's kind of
easy to go to the worst case scenario in your head.
So when I would think about the worst case scenario
and potentially developing COVID nineteen myself or passing it on
my as if I were to stay with my parents,
then I would be absolutely terrified. But that um, when
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I started to think about how much the community with
carping up, and how people were donating ppe so personal
protective equipment such as maths, and people were even making
maths for health care workers, and how so many people
were willing to work at home to help spread or
to help stop the spread of COVID nineteen. Um, I
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knew that if I looked back when this all was
over and I just took the time to only work
on my golf game and and sit on the couch
when I had the skills necessary to go back to
the hospital and help my co workers on the front line,
that I would regret not doing everything everything in my
power to help you. Talk about worst case scenario. I
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feel like we as humans, we especially as Americans, tend
to and and golfers for matter, I mean golfers, we
look at a hole and go, there's water left and
out of bounds. Right, you know, this is brutal out
by I hope I just keep it on the planet.
How has it been for you in terms of what
you thought maybe worst case scenario and what it has
been like for you in the hospital day to day. Yeah.
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So when I made the decision, we were we were
in the peak UM and so Michigan Medicine had two
patients I think was their their peak um, which meant
there were in the sick U, which is a surgical
I SU. There were um two patients per room where
normally there's only one patient. And they had opened up
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a rick you, which was a special special i SU
for COVID positive patients, and they had opened one unit
and then they had to end up opening a second
second unit, and so it was starting to get um,
starting to get to that worst case scenario that are
we going to have enough ventilator's situation and UM luck
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the Michigan's governor H. Gretchen Whitmer put in some pretty
strict stay at home orders and UM fortunately for the hospital, UM,
Michigan residents were UM following those orders and their efforts
made a direct IMPACTUM on the front line. So by
the time I got got to Michigan and started working
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at the end of April, we were already seeing UH
decline in the amount of cases. So in the beginning,
UM my my floor had UH positive COVID patients and
UM fortunately by the time I got there, so far,
we haven't had any COVID positive patients on on my unit.
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You know, I was reading a little bit about you
on the Semmetric to our website. I was reading about
your collegiate schedule with your nursing degree and also playing,
and I mean, you had an unbelievable collegiate career, three
time Women's Golf Association Division to All American at Grand
Valley State University. I mean, you're you're you're a great
collegiate player. But there were there were days when you
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were in school and you'd be in class from nine
am to nine pm. You credit your coach with changing
your scheduling, and I've already mentioned your work schedule now
where you go in from October to January. Do you
consider yourself a golfer that's also a nurse or you
a nurse that's also a golfer. That's a good question.
I don't know if I've ever thought about it. Um.
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I think when I'm golfing, I'm a golfer that's also
a nurse. And I think when I'm nursing, I'm a
nurse that also happens to be a golfer. Yeah, I
mean it just as as I kind of read through
bios and stories on you, and and and current stories
about you making this decision to go back to the hospital,
you know, it really does paint this picture of this
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person that has always balanced these two things. And you know,
I don't I don't think a lot of people understand
the life that a symmetric tour player is choosing. I mean,
we read about corn corn Ferry a lot. You know,
I'll occasionally see a mini tour story pop up here
and there. But you are both trying to make money
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as a golfer, and you also have a job, as
you call it, on the side that helps pay the bills.
And I mean this is a job in a hospital
helping people. So it's not like you know, you're working
at a circle k or you're driving an uber. I mean,
you're doing unbelievable work when you're not on the golf course.
And I think that's what seems to be so impressive.
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Are there other people like you out on tour that
are doing this full time in two different landscapes. I
know a lot of girls have part time job at
the off season. I don't know of anyone that has
like a full time position like this. No. Yeah, I
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mean it's just that that has been the thing that
that has seemed so impressive. And and something else is
is you talk a little bit about, you know, feeling
like this was something you had to do. You said
everyone and realize we had to come together as a strong,
united front to provide the best possible care for all.
You talk a lot about the difference really in the
way you approach golf versus the way you approached nursing.
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You talk about golf being so individual and how the
mindset is yours and years alone, and then you get
to a hospital and you've got to do it as
a team, and you've got to lean on others. I'm
assuming right now that's probably never been more true. Is
you're having to lean on other people to make sure
everybody does what they're supposed to do. And really that
kind of bleeds out into the community, right, I mean,
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if people aren't staying home and following orders, that's going
to affect other people. Yeah, I mean this is a
team effort for sure. And uh again, I think nurses
and doctors get a lot of credit in the media,
but um, I mean there are so many other people
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in the community that are doing their part that because
of their job, are inherently taking taking fire risks of
potentially contracting COVID Night Team themselves. But I mean in
the hospital, we have the nutritional services that are delivering
patient meals, and we have ebs that are environmental services
that are cleaning all the rooms, and we have people
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dropping off equipment for the units, and we have our
clerks and our managers and supervisors and educators and respiratory
therapists and physical therapists and occupational therapists, and I think
it's um, it's awesome and I've appreciated all the words
of support. UM, but I think you know, and then
people in the community that people delivering packages and groceries,
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store clerks and gas station attendants and UM, I just
it's a team effort to achieve the best outcome. Yeah,
what is what has morale been like? You know, we've
read stories of certain hot spots where you know, hospital
workers are are exhausted, they're working these crazy long hours,
they're working in their day easy bleed into other days.
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What has morale been like a Michigan medicine for you
and your group of people? And what is how has
that been different than when you normally work obviously without
the pandemic. Yeah, so without the pandemic. We UM are
an orthopedic trauma unit, which means UM. Usually we we
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see a lot of elective surgeries, a lot of elective
hit surgery, near knee replacements, shoulders, ankles, you know, you
name it. UM. A lot of those ortho surgeries are elective.
So UM, with this pandemic going on, all those elective
surgeries have been canceled. UM. So we're seeing a patient
population that's very different from what we're used to. So
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my unit is UM stepping up as a whole. Are
educators are sending us emails daily to update us on
the new patient population. But it's UM. It has to
be a team effort when you're taking care of patients
that you're not normally used to seeing as much. It's UM.
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The thing about nursing is you have this base knowledge
that allows you to take care of a wide range
of patients UM. And the thing about nursing is you
have to be willing to ask questions when you're on
share of something. And so we're using each other as
resources and using our management UM as resources and just
doing doing the best we can. And we've just kind
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of settled into into this new normal of wearing masks
for thirteen hours a day and being different patient populations
than UM. It's a it's a time where we feel
like we're even more important in our patients lives because UM.
The patients that we're seeing, you know, because they weren't
elective surgeries, they've been emergency, emergency situations where these patients
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would love to have their their support system there, their
loved one there. And due to COVID nineteen, visitors are
no longer allowed at the hospital except for extreme exceptions,
and so they're facing this unknown time, an emergency situation
without their loved ones as well. So we're really trying
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to step up and be there, be there for a
patient as well. We're gonna take a quick break and
be right back. Yeah, this is unfamiliar territory. I mean
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it is for everyone. You're a person that goes through
schooling to learn, as you said, about everything, I mean,
you've got to know things about everything so you can
be helpful in all scenarios. Are you reading at night?
Are you are you having to take a break? You
know what? What is what is protocol for a nurse
during this to feel like you're educated enough to have
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in certain scenarios because it's something that nobody knew much
about four months ago. Yeah, for sure, I definitely read
as much as I can um and our educator has
been great about sending daily emails and helpful tips and
and things like that. But also it's just the team
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I work with at Michigan Medicine is so great, and
the doctors have been understanding that we're not necessarily working
with patients that were used to and they've also helped
to educate us about what is normal? What is abnormal?
When the page when did not be concerned? And um,
I think everyone's just learning, learning how to be a
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little bit more flexible and maybe give each other a
little bit more grace, um, in order to make sure
that we're all doing what we need to be doing
for the best outcomes for our patients. Alright, golf question,
when's the last time you touched the golf club? Actually
this morning, so yeah, I got to play nine holes
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this morning. Um. Michigan reopened um golf courses, So I
had the since the second week of March. I hadn't
touched a club until Saturday. Um. Yeah, how was the game?
How was the game on Saturday? The game on Saturday
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was a little bit of almost like beginner's luck. And
then today the harsh reality that golf is a tough
game kind of slapped me in the face. Yeah, yeah,
you know, I was. I was. I was talking to
a good friend of mine that works with us at
Fox who lives in California, and their golf courses have
been closed for six weeks. They just opened up last week,
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and I told him, I said, You're gonna go out
today and shoot even par one under and then the
next round you're gonna shoot eighty five because the first
round it always like where do you put your hands?
And how do you grip this? And it all feels
so it feels like a new game and you're just
trying to go through the motions. And then the second
round is the one where all the bad thoughts get
back in your head. Oh, that couldn't be Yeah, that
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couldn't be closer to the truth. So what is it?
What is your plan for the rest of the year
in terms of play? I mean you do you have
a do you have a set date? Is semestric to returning?
What are your plans in terms of your golf No,
Obviously the situation is dynamic and kind of always strangers.
So we had originally got an email that we're going
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to start a mid June and Harris Michigan. We just
recently received another update that July, I believe it's fix
speak of July. UM in Cincinnati is our our target
start date UM, and so my goal or my plan
is to work in the hospital for another month, month
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and a half and then UM quarantine for two weeks
and then be able to UM start practicing for a
couple of weeks before or before season starts. I think
it's gonna be interesting because normally I like to play
three weeks in a row, maybe four weeks in a row,
and take a break. But with a short season, I
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think we're gonna have close to potentially thirteen weeks in
a row. So I'm not so young as one up there,
So I gotta start ramping up my workout routine so
I can keep up with everybody. Call Rory and see
if he'll send you as peloton. I mean, that is unbelievable.
Thirteen straight weeks is unheard of. I mean, that's gonna
be uh, that is gonna be some serious leaning on
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the I gotta get nine or ten hours of sleep
every night type of thing. What is what is it like? No,
you know, a veteran in the Semetric Tour, You've done it,
You've done it for a number of years. What is
the Symmetric Tour like? Does it feel very European tory?
When when I say that, I mean camaraderie, you guys
staying together, host housing. What is the Symmetric Tour feel
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in terms of the players and participants week to week?
It's just feels like a grind. It feels like, Uh,
it's like the question of do I want to get
Subway because it's cheap for dinner, or do I want
to go get something that I know is gonna like
really nourish my body to be able to perform well.
It's this question of like, finances are always always on
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the mind, and it's leaning heavily. Last year, I played
twenty events. I stayed in host housing for eighteen of
those twenty events. UM. I used a volunteer caddy. I
never paid for a caddy last season. UM. I definitely
am following on a budget, as they say. And I
think that's gonna be the tough part when we get
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back because there's been talks of not having caddies to
limit you know, community exposure, and there believe there won't
be any host housing for this year, so that's gonna
increase expenses and UM, so that's gonna be a tough challenge.
But yeah, I think the semetric tour um, because everyone
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is in this sort of struggle together. UM, there is
a sense of commodity and it's um, it really felt
like a first day back at school for our first event.
UM to kick off the season and it was so
good to see everybody and to catch up and um,
you know, I was excited to get the ball rolling.
And then unfortunately, uh we had this second off season here,
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so um, it'll be it'll be good to get back.
And UM, I'm we're fortunate, you know, in we played
for the most amount of money that that the Cemetri
has ever played for before Mike Nichols, and like one,
I've done a great job of stepping up and increase
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our average purse sizes to make it to make it
more affordable and to make us playing for more money
every week. And I just I don't know how the
how the women did it before before they stepped up
to the play and started raising more money for us. Sarah, listen,
I can't promise a lot of stuff here, but I
will promise you this. If you've got to play thirteen
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straight weeks and they don't allow you a caddy, I
will find some push card company to send you a
free push card. I I don't, like I said, I
don't know. I don't have a lot of pool here
in this world, but I think I can maybe make
that happen with what you've done. In your community and
for people, and your selflessness and your commitment to giving back.
I think we can probably find a click gear company
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to send you some some sort because if you're hoping
your bag for thirteen weeks, I mean, this is like
a golf iron man or something. I know. I'm I'm
gonna hold you to that, gonna need that, and maybe
like a water bottle or something. I don't, I don't know.
We can work this. We can, we can note this
lean and YETI let's get you the best water bottle possible.
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These are gonna be the gifts you get. You're coming
on the podcast dot you were, you know, you're discussing
your schedule in volunteer attis I just have to ask,
I'm assuming you have an unbelievable volunteer caddy story. I
don't want you to put throw anybody under the bus,
but if you want to just not use names or
tournaments and just give us your best volunteer caddy story,
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I'm sure people would love to hear it. Oh my goodness,
there are so many um these people are golfers, I'm assuming, right,
I mean, you're getting you're getting at least local caddies
or club caddies or or golfers in some regard. I mean,
you know, you're you're getting caddies that that at least
know what's going on. I mean, sometimes it's not always
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I was. I've been I've been very fortunate with all
of my caddies, with all my volunteer caddies, that they
just really want to be there for me and help
me out. And I appreciate it. Um. One, you know,
listeners at home. One of the one of the horror
stories luckily didn't happen to me, but happened to someone
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I was playing with. And I'm not going to name names,
but someone was hitting the ball amazingly well and I
think was three under with maybe six or seven holes
to go and ended up three putting her last five holes, Um,
five out six or five out seven holes or whatever
it was, Uh, to finish a couple over and um.
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The next day she told her caddie, Hey, I'm on
the putting green when you get here, just you know,
so he could help, he could find her a little
bit easier. And uh, he goes, oh good, I hope
you were there all night last night. And then Dard
hanging around. Uh, she hits one close and you know,
we're saying nice, nice pot or whatever or a night
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and shot, and he looks at me like, do you
think I can let her put with her driver? And
I was like yeah, And it was just kind of
some comments like that, and and she made a birdie
and he's like, oh finally, and I you know, I
kind of helped myself. I was like, I would like
to see you do better, and unportantly for him, unfortunately
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for him, he did. He she made the cut and
he didn't make the cut, so she she she carried
her back for the last day. But that was that's
definitely an exception to the rule. For the most part,
everyone's just trying to help us out and they want
to do whatever whatever is best for us. You know
what what I envision in my head, Sarah about a
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volunteer caddy is as I've been to events and seeing
the volunteers and how excited they are about their job.
Is I bet at times it's just about scaling them back.
You know, Hey, man, I got this. I actually I
got the read. I know a club it is. I'm good.
I bet that's more than the guy. That's underwhelming because
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so many people are so excited to help out because
you know you're you're you're getting a professional golfer. I mean,
you're getting a bag of somebody that knows what they're
doing and that I caddied. That is very very rare
when you're when you're a club caddy or a course caddy,
just with every day, every day play. Oh yeah, one
third percent. And I feel like I always have the
conversation with my volunteer caddies of thank you so much
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for what you're doing. I appreciate it. Uh, you're here
to limit my physical expenditure for the week, so I
don't have to carry my own bag, and I would
love to talk to you about anything besides golf. Um.
So that's my that's my take on it. UM. I've
had a caddy that we had a practice round. He
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did great. We got to the first hole and as
a part five hit okay, drive got up to the
green side bunker and two he goes, oh, don't go in,
don't go in. I'm like, no, that's okay. We're you know,
green side and two on a part five we can
get that up and down for Bertie and then you know,
we get to the next hole and the pins talked
and he goes, oh, gosh, that's a that's a tough pen.
I'm like, yeah, you know it is. And in my head,
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I'm like, why did you say that? When we get
to the third hole and he goes, okay, what are
you thinking here? And I just had to say, remember, listen,
remember that conversation we had about we can talk anything
besides golf. He's like, oh, yeah, okay, okay, and then
he totally got it, and with him, I shot my
season well the next day and made the cut and
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you know, made top twenties. So I think that's, uh,
that's very true. Just reminding them. They're so excited and
they just want to help so much. But um, you know,
unless you have the same caddy every week, it's really
hard to trust somebody and they don't know my game.
They don't know if I hit puts hard or soft,
or if I you know, aim a little bit right
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and push it or pull it, you know whatever. They
just don't know my game. So um, having a new
caddy every week, it's, uh, it can be a little
bit of a challenge, but um, I'm just appreciative to
be able to talk about you know, their kids and
grandkids and what they do for fun and stuff like
that helps keep me loose on the course and you know,
definitely saves me some energy. Yeah. Any and just no golf,
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I mean, just we'll talk about anything. I will. I
will literally discuss all topics as long as golf is
not the main focus here in between shots. I do
love the uh there. I had a good friend of
mine caddying for me years ago in a State Open
qualifier and I shot you know, I shot thirty nine
on the front. I didn't play very well, and he's
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given me the oh my goodness, we've gotta make some
birdies on the back, and you know it's one of
those where you want to say, no, no, man. I know,
like I'm well aware that that wasn't great, and I'm
also well aware of what needs to happen on the back.
And I make two or three birdies and I got
it back to even and we get to eighteen and
hands me a driver and he says, let's not mess
it up now. And you're like, oh my god, so positive,
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just unbelievable positive speak. You know, caddying is not an
easy job, and I just I I respect the hell
out of people that know how to do it well.
And the professionals out there that are great at it
are really really good at their job because they know
how to handle a person in the situation, at the
time and the conversation. So shout out to them, Sarah,
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I really appreciate it. You know, you're a saint. Thank
you so much for what you're doing. I hope that
you and everybody are staying safe. I hope that that,
you know, I mean, it continues to get better in
your area. It seems like that's that's the case, at
least the way the way you're you're talking about it,
And like I said, I think people are going to
really uh really appreciate you know, what you've done in
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your decision to kind of go back to the hospital. Well,
thank you so much and thanks for having me on
and I'll look forward to that free push cart, push
cart and water bottle. You can follow her. It's Sarah Hoffman.
That's Sarah with an h Sarah Hoffman Golf. That's on Instagram. Sarah,
are you not on Twitter? Is that that nobody young?
No young people are on Twitter anymore? Right, Yeah, I'm not.
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You need to get a come on it's making a comeback.
It's I'm telling you, it's making you gotta you gotta
you gotta just dive in, dive in and laugh. That's
all I can ask Sarah. I appreciate the time. Yeah,
thank you so much. We're gonna take a quick break
and be right back. A big, big thanks to Sarah
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Hoppin for joining us, and a reminder you can follow
her on Instagram at Sarah with an h Sarah Hoffman
Golf on Instagram. Follow her and we will continue to
track her progress and her successes this year. Great story,
unbelievable young lady, and I was I was pumped to
have her on. If you guys get a chance to play,
go out and have some fun, be smart, be safe,
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and we'll be back next week with more of these
feel good podcast focused around the golf community and what
we are doing to uh, you know, to shift maybe
the focus that's normally what certain companies or people are doing,
but all the shifting is to help other people and
that is the point of this. I hope you guys
have a great week. We will check back in soon.
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I Heart Radio. Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon.
I am your host, Shane Bacon, and we're starting something
new this week, Fun Positive. If you will, We're gonna
do a few episodes in a row with people in
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and around the golf community that are helping out and
going above and beyond during this COVID pandemic. And we
are starting with a young lady who plays golf on
the Symmetric Tour named Sarah Hoffman. And Sarah is a
nurse some of the year and a golfer some of
the year, and she bounces back and forth between both jobs.
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And she went back to the hospital once all of
this became obviously a huge thing. Sarah went back to
the hospital that she has worked at in the winters
when golf is on hiatus and said, I'll help out
any way possible. And I had a chance to chat
with here for a good amount of time, about half
an hour. We talked about the decision to go back
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and what it was like, and the golf game and
where it is at this current state, and how little
golf she's been able to play and the plans for
the rest of the year. It was a great conversation,
and this is something that I'm gonna keep doing over
the next few weeks. Is I'm gonna talk to some
people in and around the golf community that have done
something different, as that guy said above and beyond to
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help out any and always possible, And I just figured
it would be a way for you to maybe know
a little bit more about people that are doing these things.
That is the hope to all you out there. I
hope you're being safe. I hope you're being smart. I
hope you're staying healthy. I hope you were being positive.
That is also a big part of this, trying to
stay positive through all this. I know a lot of
states are opening up golf. More and more states are
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doing that. Just again, be smart when you do that.
Golf is a great way to go out and do something.
Arizona has allowed golf basically this entire time. I don't
think there was day golf was shut down in the
state I live in. But we've you know, just I
bring my own water bottles and I wet my towel
before I go to the golf course. Now I've got
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to obviously rewat it a couple of times because it's
like a hundred and thirty degrees in Arizona right now.
But you know, I bring hand sanitizer. I attached it
on my golf bag, and I'm just trying to do
little things that I know would cause me to touch
stuff that I don't want to touch when I'm on
the golf course. So just try to think. Think of
all the stuff you touch when you're on a golf course.
If you have an old golf glove, like an old
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nasty glove that you want to throw away, use that one.
If you've got to pick up, you know, range range
ball buckets, or if you've got to use it to
punch in a code to get your range balls. Little
things like that always helpful, just easy ways to avoid
touching stuff. As we continue to go through this, let's
let's get to Sarah. I want to I want you
all to hear her story, and we welcome into the
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clubhouse somebody. I'm I'm excited to chat with Sarah Hoffman,
a professional golfer on the Semmetra Tour. But that it's
not why we're going to chat Sarah. I want to
chat about some other things. But before we get to
those things, I wanted you too. You know, we've got
golf people listening and people that know a lot about
the PGA Tour and the LPGA Tour. Can you just
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explain to people a what the semetritory is and how
long you've been out there in your career through professional golf. Yeah, awesome,
thanks for having me, Shane. Um. So, the Smutra Tour
is the developmental tour for the LPGA, So it works
like the Corn Farry Tour whereat the end of the year,
there's UM ten cards that are up for grabs, so
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the top ten on the money list every year go
directly to the LPGA and then um based on how
you finish on the money list, you can go to
certain levels of Q School and try and earn your
way out of the LPGA through that way as well.
And how long have you been playing, you know, bouncing
on the semmeritore. I know you've played some LPGA as well.
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Know you've played some Q school as well. How long
have you been out on the Semetric Tour. So I've
been trying on the Semetric Tour since two thousand sixteen.
In two sixteen, I got partial status for the seventeen
season and I played four events, and then last year,
two thousand nineteen was my first full year on Sumetra.
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And this is why I had you on, not because
I don't want to talk about your golf game, because
I would like to talk about your actual golf game.
But we are going through unprecedented times. Everybody listening knows
that obviously, with COVID and and self isolation and quarantining,
it is a weird time in society and civilization. And Sarah,
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you have done something that I think everybody will be
massively impressed with, something that I feel like a lot
of people a can't do and maybe wouldn't do, is
you put the golf clubs away. Obviously, Symmetric Tour is
on hiatus now, as every professional sport is. But you're
someone that as a nursing degree and you've gone back
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to help out. And I just wanted to start with
the decision there because I know you spent a lot
of the off season at at a at a hospital.
You said, it looks like you spend basically October to
January at a hospital, and then you get back into golf.
The decision personally for you to get back into a
hospital and try to help out. Yeah, so the decision
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to go back to the hospital was a little bit
limited on information. We knew. We had played the first
event on so much with part and then our California
swing got canceled, and so I was just waiting for
an update to figure out when we were supposed to
resume season UM. I was in Atlanta at the time
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and trying to get a travel contract, which means anywhere
from Usually it's a third team week contract UM, but
due to the pandemic, they for offering shorter contracts from
four to eight weeks, and so I was trying to
figure out what contract I could sign that wouldn't I
wouldn't interfere with my ability to play as many tournaments
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as I could on Sumetra, especially if we're going to
have a limited season with limited events. I knew I
couldn't necessarily afford to give up an event or to
to UM to the field where they could be making
money and and I couldn't, So I was waiting for
an update. Once we got an update, I tried to
get a travel nursing job in Atlanta, but I've never
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worked as a travel nurse, so that position didn't come.
But um, you know, I had this temp job at
Michigan Medicine, and Michigan was one of the hotbeds. Um
is one of the hotbeds, and so I, uh, it
was a tough decision. I think it's hard when there's
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any amount of uncertainty that um, it's it's kind of
easy to go to the worst case scenario in your head.
So when I would think about the worst case scenario
and potentially developing COVID nineteen myself or passing it on
my as if I were to stay with my parents,
then I would be absolutely terrified. But that um, when
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I started to think about how much the community with
carping up, and how people were donating ppe so personal
protective equipment such as maths, and people were even making
maths for health care workers, and how so many people
were willing to work at home to help spread or
to help stop the spread of COVID nineteen. Um, I
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knew that if I looked back when this all was
over and I just took the time to only work
on my golf game and and sit on the couch
when I had the skills necessary to go back to
the hospital and help my co workers on the front line,
that I would regret not doing everything everything in my
power to help you. Talk about worst case scenario. I
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feel like we as humans, we especially as Americans, tend
to and and golfers for matter, I mean golfers, we
look at a hole and go, there's water left and
out of bounds. Right, you know, this is brutal out
by I hope I just keep it on the planet.
How has it been for you in terms of what
you thought maybe worst case scenario and what it has
been like for you in the hospital day to day. Yeah.
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So when I made the decision, we were we were
in the peak UM and so Michigan Medicine had two
patients I think was their their peak um, which meant
there were in the sick U, which is a surgical
I SU. There were um two patients per room where
normally there's only one patient. And they had opened up
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a rick you, which was a special special i SU
for COVID positive patients, and they had opened one unit
and then they had to end up opening a second
second unit, and so it was starting to get um,
starting to get to that worst case scenario that are
we going to have enough ventilator's situation and UM luck
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the Michigan's governor H. Gretchen Whitmer put in some pretty
strict stay at home orders and UM fortunately for the hospital, UM,
Michigan residents were UM following those orders and their efforts
made a direct IMPACTUM on the front line. So by
the time I got got to Michigan and started working
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at the end of April, we were already seeing UH
decline in the amount of cases. So in the beginning,
UM my my floor had UH positive COVID patients and
UM fortunately by the time I got there, so far,
we haven't had any COVID positive patients on on my unit.
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You know, I was reading a little bit about you
on the Semmetric to our website. I was reading about
your collegiate schedule with your nursing degree and also playing,
and I mean, you had an unbelievable collegiate career, three
time Women's Golf Association Division to All American at Grand
Valley State University. I mean, you're you're you're a great
collegiate player. But there were there were days when you
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were in school and you'd be in class from nine
am to nine pm. You credit your coach with changing
your scheduling, and I've already mentioned your work schedule now
where you go in from October to January. Do you
consider yourself a golfer that's also a nurse or you
a nurse that's also a golfer. That's a good question.
I don't know if I've ever thought about it. Um.
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I think when I'm golfing, I'm a golfer that's also
a nurse. And I think when I'm nursing, I'm a
nurse that also happens to be a golfer. Yeah, I
mean it just as as I kind of read through
bios and stories on you, and and and current stories
about you making this decision to go back to the hospital,
you know, it really does paint this picture of this
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person that has always balanced these two things. And you know,
I don't I don't think a lot of people understand
the life that a symmetric tour player is choosing. I mean,
we read about corn corn Ferry a lot. You know,
I'll occasionally see a mini tour story pop up here
and there. But you are both trying to make money
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as a golfer, and you also have a job, as
you call it, on the side that helps pay the bills.
And I mean this is a job in a hospital
helping people. So it's not like you know, you're working
at a circle k or you're driving an uber. I mean,
you're doing unbelievable work when you're not on the golf course.
And I think that's what seems to be so impressive.
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Are there other people like you out on tour that
are doing this full time in two different landscapes. I
know a lot of girls have part time job at
the off season. I don't know of anyone that has
like a full time position like this. No. Yeah, I
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mean it's just that that has been the thing that
that has seemed so impressive. And and something else is
is you talk a little bit about, you know, feeling
like this was something you had to do. You said
everyone and realize we had to come together as a strong,
united front to provide the best possible care for all.
You talk a lot about the difference really in the
way you approach golf versus the way you approached nursing.
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You talk about golf being so individual and how the
mindset is yours and years alone, and then you get
to a hospital and you've got to do it as
a team, and you've got to lean on others. I'm
assuming right now that's probably never been more true. Is
you're having to lean on other people to make sure
everybody does what they're supposed to do. And really that
kind of bleeds out into the community, right, I mean,
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if people aren't staying home and following orders, that's going
to affect other people. Yeah, I mean this is a
team effort for sure. And uh again, I think nurses
and doctors get a lot of credit in the media,
but um, I mean there are so many other people
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in the community that are doing their part that because
of their job, are inherently taking taking fire risks of
potentially contracting COVID Night Team themselves. But I mean in
the hospital, we have the nutritional services that are delivering
patient meals, and we have ebs that are environmental services
that are cleaning all the rooms, and we have people
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dropping off equipment for the units, and we have our
clerks and our managers and supervisors and educators and respiratory
therapists and physical therapists and occupational therapists, and I think
it's um, it's awesome and I've appreciated all the words
of support. UM, but I think you know, and then
people in the community that people delivering packages and groceries,
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store clerks and gas station attendants and UM, I just
it's a team effort to achieve the best outcome. Yeah,
what is what has morale been like? You know, we've
read stories of certain hot spots where you know, hospital
workers are are exhausted, they're working these crazy long hours,
they're working in their day easy bleed into other days.
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What has morale been like a Michigan medicine for you
and your group of people? And what is how has
that been different than when you normally work obviously without
the pandemic. Yeah, so without the pandemic. We UM are
an orthopedic trauma unit, which means UM. Usually we we
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see a lot of elective surgeries, a lot of elective
hit surgery, near knee replacements, shoulders, ankles, you know, you
name it. UM. A lot of those ortho surgeries are elective.
So UM, with this pandemic going on, all those elective
surgeries have been canceled. UM. So we're seeing a patient
population that's very different from what we're used to. So
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my unit is UM stepping up as a whole. Are
educators are sending us emails daily to update us on
the new patient population. But it's UM. It has to
be a team effort when you're taking care of patients
that you're not normally used to seeing as much. It's UM.
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The thing about nursing is you have this base knowledge
that allows you to take care of a wide range
of patients UM. And the thing about nursing is you
have to be willing to ask questions when you're on
share of something. And so we're using each other as
resources and using our management UM as resources and just
doing doing the best we can. And we've just kind
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of settled into into this new normal of wearing masks
for thirteen hours a day and being different patient populations
than UM. It's a it's a time where we feel
like we're even more important in our patients lives because UM.
The patients that we're seeing, you know, because they weren't
elective surgeries, they've been emergency, emergency situations where these patients
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would love to have their their support system there, their
loved one there. And due to COVID nineteen, visitors are
no longer allowed at the hospital except for extreme exceptions,
and so they're facing this unknown time, an emergency situation
without their loved ones as well. So we're really trying
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to step up and be there, be there for a
patient as well. We're gonna take a quick break and
be right back. Yeah, this is unfamiliar territory. I mean
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it is for everyone. You're a person that goes through
schooling to learn, as you said, about everything, I mean,
you've got to know things about everything so you can
be helpful in all scenarios. Are you reading at night?
Are you are you having to take a break? You
know what? What is what is protocol for a nurse
during this to feel like you're educated enough to have
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in certain scenarios because it's something that nobody knew much
about four months ago. Yeah, for sure, I definitely read
as much as I can um and our educator has
been great about sending daily emails and helpful tips and
and things like that. But also it's just the team
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I work with at Michigan Medicine is so great, and
the doctors have been understanding that we're not necessarily working
with patients that were used to and they've also helped
to educate us about what is normal? What is abnormal?
When the page when did not be concerned? And um,
I think everyone's just learning, learning how to be a
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little bit more flexible and maybe give each other a
little bit more grace, um, in order to make sure
that we're all doing what we need to be doing
for the best outcomes for our patients. Alright, golf question,
when's the last time you touched the golf club? Actually
this morning, so yeah, I got to play nine holes
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this morning. Um. Michigan reopened um golf courses, So I
had the since the second week of March. I hadn't
touched a club until Saturday. Um. Yeah, how was the game?
How was the game on Saturday? The game on Saturday
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was a little bit of almost like beginner's luck. And
then today the harsh reality that golf is a tough
game kind of slapped me in the face. Yeah, yeah,
you know, I was. I was. I was talking to
a good friend of mine that works with us at
Fox who lives in California, and their golf courses have
been closed for six weeks. They just opened up last week,
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and I told him, I said, You're gonna go out
today and shoot even par one under and then the
next round you're gonna shoot eighty five because the first
round it always like where do you put your hands?
And how do you grip this? And it all feels
so it feels like a new game and you're just
trying to go through the motions. And then the second
round is the one where all the bad thoughts get
back in your head. Oh, that couldn't be Yeah, that
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couldn't be closer to the truth. So what is it?
What is your plan for the rest of the year
in terms of play? I mean you do you have
a do you have a set date? Is semestric to returning?
What are your plans in terms of your golf No,
Obviously the situation is dynamic and kind of always strangers.
So we had originally got an email that we're going
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to start a mid June and Harris Michigan. We just
recently received another update that July, I believe it's fix
speak of July. UM in Cincinnati is our our target
start date UM, and so my goal or my plan
is to work in the hospital for another month, month
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and a half and then UM quarantine for two weeks
and then be able to UM start practicing for a
couple of weeks before or before season starts. I think
it's gonna be interesting because normally I like to play
three weeks in a row, maybe four weeks in a row,
and take a break. But with a short season, I
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think we're gonna have close to potentially thirteen weeks in
a row. So I'm not so young as one up there,
So I gotta start ramping up my workout routine so
I can keep up with everybody. Call Rory and see
if he'll send you as peloton. I mean, that is unbelievable.
Thirteen straight weeks is unheard of. I mean, that's gonna
be uh, that is gonna be some serious leaning on
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the I gotta get nine or ten hours of sleep
every night type of thing. What is what is it like? No,
you know, a veteran in the Semetric Tour, You've done it,
You've done it for a number of years. What is
the Symmetric Tour like? Does it feel very European tory?
When when I say that, I mean camaraderie, you guys
staying together, host housing. What is the Symmetric Tour feel
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in terms of the players and participants week to week?
It's just feels like a grind. It feels like, Uh,
it's like the question of do I want to get
Subway because it's cheap for dinner, or do I want
to go get something that I know is gonna like
really nourish my body to be able to perform well.
It's this question of like, finances are always always on
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the mind, and it's leaning heavily. Last year, I played
twenty events. I stayed in host housing for eighteen of
those twenty events. UM. I used a volunteer caddy. I
never paid for a caddy last season. UM. I definitely
am following on a budget, as they say. And I
think that's gonna be the tough part when we get
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back because there's been talks of not having caddies to
limit you know, community exposure, and there believe there won't
be any host housing for this year, so that's gonna
increase expenses and UM, so that's gonna be a tough challenge.
But yeah, I think the semetric tour um, because everyone
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is in this sort of struggle together. UM, there is
a sense of commodity and it's um, it really felt
like a first day back at school for our first event.
UM to kick off the season and it was so
good to see everybody and to catch up and um,
you know, I was excited to get the ball rolling.
And then unfortunately, uh we had this second off season here,
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so um, it'll be it'll be good to get back.
And UM, I'm we're fortunate, you know, in we played
for the most amount of money that that the Cemetri
has ever played for before Mike Nichols, and like one,
I've done a great job of stepping up and increase
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our average purse sizes to make it to make it
more affordable and to make us playing for more money
every week. And I just I don't know how the
how the women did it before before they stepped up
to the play and started raising more money for us. Sarah, listen,
I can't promise a lot of stuff here, but I
will promise you this. If you've got to play thirteen
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straight weeks and they don't allow you a caddy, I
will find some push card company to send you a
free push card. I I don't, like I said, I
don't know. I don't have a lot of pool here
in this world, but I think I can maybe make
that happen with what you've done. In your community and
for people, and your selflessness and your commitment to giving back.
I think we can probably find a click gear company
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to send you some some sort because if you're hoping
your bag for thirteen weeks, I mean, this is like
a golf iron man or something. I know. I'm I'm
gonna hold you to that, gonna need that, and maybe
like a water bottle or something. I don't, I don't know.
We can work this. We can, we can note this
lean and YETI let's get you the best water bottle possible.
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These are gonna be the gifts you get. You're coming
on the podcast dot you were, you know, you're discussing
your schedule in volunteer attis I just have to ask,
I'm assuming you have an unbelievable volunteer caddy story. I
don't want you to put throw anybody under the bus,
but if you want to just not use names or
tournaments and just give us your best volunteer caddy story,
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I'm sure people would love to hear it. Oh my goodness,
there are so many um these people are golfers, I'm assuming, right,
I mean, you're getting you're getting at least local caddies
or club caddies or or golfers in some regard. I mean,
you know, you're you're getting caddies that that at least
know what's going on. I mean, sometimes it's not always
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I was. I've been I've been very fortunate with all
of my caddies, with all my volunteer caddies, that they
just really want to be there for me and help
me out. And I appreciate it. Um. One, you know,
listeners at home. One of the one of the horror
stories luckily didn't happen to me, but happened to someone
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I was playing with. And I'm not going to name names,
but someone was hitting the ball amazingly well and I
think was three under with maybe six or seven holes
to go and ended up three putting her last five holes, Um,
five out six or five out seven holes or whatever
it was, Uh, to finish a couple over and um.
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The next day she told her caddie, Hey, I'm on
the putting green when you get here, just you know,
so he could help, he could find her a little
bit easier. And uh, he goes, oh good, I hope
you were there all night last night. And then Dard
hanging around. Uh, she hits one close and you know,
we're saying nice, nice pot or whatever or a night
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and shot, and he looks at me like, do you
think I can let her put with her driver? And
I was like yeah, And it was just kind of
some comments like that, and and she made a birdie
and he's like, oh finally, and I you know, I
kind of helped myself. I was like, I would like
to see you do better, and unportantly for him, unfortunately
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for him, he did. He she made the cut and
he didn't make the cut, so she she she carried
her back for the last day. But that was that's
definitely an exception to the rule. For the most part,
everyone's just trying to help us out and they want
to do whatever whatever is best for us. You know
what what I envision in my head, Sarah about a
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volunteer caddy is as I've been to events and seeing
the volunteers and how excited they are about their job.
Is I bet at times it's just about scaling them back.
You know, Hey, man, I got this. I actually I
got the read. I know a club it is. I'm good.
I bet that's more than the guy. That's underwhelming because
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so many people are so excited to help out because
you know you're you're you're getting a professional golfer. I mean,
you're getting a bag of somebody that knows what they're
doing and that I caddied. That is very very rare
when you're when you're a club caddy or a course caddy,
just with every day, every day play. Oh yeah, one
third percent. And I feel like I always have the
conversation with my volunteer caddies of thank you so much
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for what you're doing. I appreciate it. Uh, you're here
to limit my physical expenditure for the week, so I
don't have to carry my own bag, and I would
love to talk to you about anything besides golf. Um.
So that's my that's my take on it. UM. I've
had a caddy that we had a practice round. He
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did great. We got to the first hole and as
a part five hit okay, drive got up to the
green side bunker and two he goes, oh, don't go in,
don't go in. I'm like, no, that's okay. We're you know,
green side and two on a part five we can
get that up and down for Bertie and then you know,
we get to the next hole and the pins talked
and he goes, oh, gosh, that's a that's a tough pen.
I'm like, yeah, you know it is. And in my head,
(27:50):
I'm like, why did you say that? When we get
to the third hole and he goes, okay, what are
you thinking here? And I just had to say, remember, listen,
remember that conversation we had about we can talk anything
besides golf. He's like, oh, yeah, okay, okay, and then
he totally got it, and with him, I shot my
season well the next day and made the cut and
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you know, made top twenties. So I think that's, uh,
that's very true. Just reminding them. They're so excited and
they just want to help so much. But um, you know,
unless you have the same caddy every week, it's really
hard to trust somebody and they don't know my game.
They don't know if I hit puts hard or soft,
or if I you know, aim a little bit right
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and push it or pull it, you know whatever. They
just don't know my game. So um, having a new
caddy every week, it's, uh, it can be a little
bit of a challenge, but um, I'm just appreciative to
be able to talk about you know, their kids and
grandkids and what they do for fun and stuff like
that helps keep me loose on the course and you know,
definitely saves me some energy. Yeah. Any and just no golf,
(28:54):
I mean, just we'll talk about anything. I will. I
will literally discuss all topics as long as golf is
not the main focus here in between shots. I do
love the uh there. I had a good friend of
mine caddying for me years ago in a State Open
qualifier and I shot you know, I shot thirty nine
on the front. I didn't play very well, and he's
(29:15):
given me the oh my goodness, we've gotta make some
birdies on the back, and you know it's one of
those where you want to say, no, no, man. I know,
like I'm well aware that that wasn't great, and I'm
also well aware of what needs to happen on the back.
And I make two or three birdies and I got
it back to even and we get to eighteen and
hands me a driver and he says, let's not mess
it up now. And you're like, oh my god, so positive,
(29:37):
just unbelievable positive speak. You know, caddying is not an
easy job, and I just I I respect the hell
out of people that know how to do it well.
And the professionals out there that are great at it
are really really good at their job because they know
how to handle a person in the situation, at the
time and the conversation. So shout out to them, Sarah,
(29:57):
I really appreciate it. You know, you're a saint. Thank
you so much for what you're doing. I hope that
you and everybody are staying safe. I hope that that,
you know, I mean, it continues to get better in
your area. It seems like that's that's the case, at
least the way the way you're you're talking about it,
And like I said, I think people are going to
really uh really appreciate you know, what you've done in
(30:19):
your decision to kind of go back to the hospital. Well,
thank you so much and thanks for having me on
and I'll look forward to that free push cart, push
cart and water bottle. You can follow her. It's Sarah Hoffman.
That's Sarah with an h Sarah Hoffman Golf. That's on Instagram. Sarah,
are you not on Twitter? Is that that nobody young?
No young people are on Twitter anymore? Right, Yeah, I'm not.
(30:41):
You need to get a come on it's making a comeback.
It's I'm telling you, it's making you gotta you gotta
you gotta just dive in, dive in and laugh. That's
all I can ask Sarah. I appreciate the time. Yeah,
thank you so much. We're gonna take a quick break
and be right back. A big, big thanks to Sarah
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Hoppin for joining us, and a reminder you can follow
her on Instagram at Sarah with an h Sarah Hoffman
Golf on Instagram. Follow her and we will continue to
track her progress and her successes this year. Great story,
unbelievable young lady, and I was I was pumped to
have her on. If you guys get a chance to play,
go out and have some fun, be smart, be safe,
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and we'll be back next week with more of these
feel good podcast focused around the golf community and what
we are doing to uh, you know, to shift maybe
the focus that's normally what certain companies or people are doing,
but all the shifting is to help other people and
that is the point of this. I hope you guys
have a great week. We will check back in soon.
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