Offensive Astros Offense, HOFer Andre Johnson, Texans Revving Up

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Raised.

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Speaker 3 (00:35):
A straight up three o'clock in Houston, Texas. It is
the A Team Sports Talk seven, well at least half
of the eight team.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Wex is out today.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
If you've been listening to Ross on the Matt Thomas
Show without Matt Thomas, you already know where Matt Thomas was.
That's exactly where Adam Wexler is. He's a Memphis So
you know, I'm not going to go through all the
particulars of it. It's just that he won't be here
today and then he'll be back tomorrow and it'll go
back to normal. So Dan Matthews is basically he shoved down,
as Michael Scott would say, and he is in the

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studio with me and Trey is producing the show. So
that's that's your cast of characters for a Monday edition
of The A Team, in which Dan I came in
today not in a great mood.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
About our Astros join the club though, Is there anybody
in Houston? I take a number today. It's been a Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
When I think about how this weekend went, there's a
lot of layers to it. And by the way, as
we go forth in this first hour of three, as
we take you up until six o'clock tonight, and then
the Astros on deck show will get under ways, we
get you ready for a series in Arlington against the
hated Rangers, who, by the way, are still nipping at

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the astros heels. It's incredible to me that no one
can create any sort of separation in this division between
these three teams.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's just in I mean, things have.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Shifted over time, but it's basically been one one a
between the Astros and the Mariners. Right now. The Mariners
have the slight upper hand, uh, and then the Rangers
are like a not so distant third second technically whatever
you want to call it. But man, there are a
lot of ways to look at where the Astros stand.

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And I keep coming back to the same thing, where
has this offense gone? Will it ever come back? It will?
And it's not just the offense in general, although it's
easy to say that how about the fact that.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Jordan Alvarez, especially at home.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
This is this is like a microcosm of last year's Well,
they can't win at home, He can't hit at home,
and even when he does hit, it's singles and he
usually stays on base because no one else can hit.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Well, he's not the only one. I mean, you know,
as I have, you know, documented on my social media account,
and I know that probably most of you are getting
annoyed at this point, but the facts are the facts.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
He's not the only one.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I mean, Jose Altuve right now, for all intents and purposes,
is lost at the plate and that sucks. Same deal
with Alex Bregman. And I mean, you know, it's kind
of one of those things that singles are nice, but
damn man Like, I mean, it kind of comes to
a point with this team where it's where's the three
run homer, where's the two run double?

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Like?

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Where are just a clutch hit? I mean, I mean,
yesterday it would have sufficed. And it's also too I mean,
we'll get into this as the show goes along. I mean,
people want to complain about, oh, you know, great, we've
got Arrogetti going today. It doesn't matter, Like it really
does not matter at this point. Like I saw people
getting on Renelle Blanco the other night. See you walk somebody,
that's what happens. I go, you can't pitch that way,

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Like you have to be able to go out there
and say, hey, I got to make my pitches. And
sometimes it doesn't happen. But giving up a two run
homer shouldn't be fatal to you, and it has been
for the better part of the last.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Two and a half weeks.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I always made the comparison because the Astros are still
a contending team, if for nothing else than to make
the postseason. That's like the the that's like the basement
level here that we expect here in Houston with this
you know club, the way it is as constructed, as
crazy as that is, but it's like it's so shades
of two thousand and five when you had and then look,

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that staff was way better than this one simply because
it was healthy. You know, Clemens Pettit, Oswald, Brandon Backie,
that's your front four and a lot of times particularly
and again this is this is by memory, this is
by feel. I don't have numbers in front of me
to confirm this, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Especially

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when the Rocket would pitch for whatever reason, he would
just get the shaft from the offense more more so
than everyone else in the rotation. It was like, well,
it's one nothing fill in the blank because he made
one bad pitch. I hope they can scratch across two
runs in this game. That's how yesterday was. The entire time.
I'm like Spencer Erigetty is out there his balls off,

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and now we've got a situation where all right, it's
the sixth inning, this is it. We gotta go all right,
seventh inning, go down meekly in the eighth, go down
even more meankly, meekly in the ninth. And you said
it keep going down the line. In this lineup, nobody,
and I mean nobody was getting a clutch hit yesterday.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, I mean Dana Brown said at numerous times and
all Parrot, what he has said is that this team
goes with Alex Brugman, and it needs to be much
more than him. This team goes with Jose al Tuvy,
it goes with Jordan Alvarez, and people might say, oh, well,
why is it just those three guys fault. Well, here's why,
because you expect great things out of those guys. I
like getting good things out of John Singleton, but those

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are shelf life. The same deal goes with Mauricio Dubon
and Chas McCormick and all of these other guys, and
the good stuff that you got from Jake Myers. It's nice,
but he's not out in center field because of his bat.
It's nice when you get the power, but more often
than not, that's not going to be counted on. And
you talked about it too with you know, the five
kind of shades of that. It's kind of the meet
the meet the new Boss, same as the old boss.

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And Spencer Urrikeetty's that guy because the last few times
he's been out there, he's not pitched bad, he just
hasn't gotten any sort of run support whatsoever. And that's
the thing with this team that I think you look
at is you're just kind of like, when when does
when does this offense have their moment? Like I was
thinking about it today riding in for the show. There's
a handful of times that Saturday game early on in

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the season against the Rangers, the Guardians game that they
had when you know, Victor Carrattini hit the walk off
home run. But aside from that, I mean, people want
to complain about the pitching. Miss me with that man,
because if anything, the pitching has been even better than
what we could have hoped that it could have been
this year.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Now, that's definitely the case, and you got some I'm
gonna call it cautiously optimistic news as opposed to good news.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
But it this way.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
The next two segments of the program after this one
are going to be a comparing contrast exercise. It's not
quite a Venn diagram as we get set for kid
to go back to school sooner rather than later, but
it will be, you know, a comparing contrast glass half empty,
glass half full, and the reasons why and there are
multiple reasons for each scenario. But yeah, I can't. I

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just can't complain about the pitching of late and even
you know Spencer Arighetti, that's that was as frustrating as
it gets yesterday because he did he pitched his balls off,
but Renel Blanco did the night before.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
The fact that you say.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Kakuchi is the only guy that walked away with a
win this weekend, and it was shaky for the start
of his game, he kind of did like a it's
not it's not quite an inverse of what happened with
the other two starters this weekend, but you know, shaky
start strong, and I mean strong, finish like as in

(07:47):
almost record setting with the consecutive strikeouts. I just I
can't really fault anybody who was a pitcher this weekend,
even if you know some of them, like you know, Saturday.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Night was a little bit of it kind of got
out of hand.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
But in his offense right now is it leaves a
lot to be desired, So clearly a lot of astros
to get to, both good and bad, but a lot
of bad.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And then over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
I don't know. I don't know if you get choked up,
if you get emotional about certain sporting events or certain
aspects of outside of sporting events that go along with it.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
I e.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
A Hall of Fame induction ceremony. I vividly remember a
few years back when Warren Moon went in. I didn't
really get choked up about it. And maybe it's because
there wasn't really that moment in his speech, and maybe
it was because I just wasn't really as attached to
him as maybe some Houstonians because I was a little
bit younger even when they left town, you know, just

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growing up, I just wasn't as big an Oilers fan. Sure,
And I get why people are, and I get why
they're they're die hard and they're kind of in There's
some people in this town that are kind of in
a purgatory because they didn't want to embrace the Texans,
but they also didn't want to follow the Oilers to Nashville.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
See, I mean, because I think it's two fold. It's
number one tho.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well, I mean, and I get it because I mean
it was kind of the story that did not have
the happy ending. It had anything but a happy ending.
We hated the team because we hated the owner, and
that kind of clouded the way that we thought about them.
But also to nostalgia wins because kind of baked into
all of that as well, is it's kind of you
have like an unfinished feeling, like it's a breakup where

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you don't get that closure of one or the other.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, here, I'm going to give you my side of it.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
She just said I'm out and she completely blocked you,
and you have no way of being able to get
in touch with her anymore. I mean, that's basically what
that was, and I mean it sucks, but it's also
to at the same time, I mean, I think that
you also have seen the positive end of that, where
you do have those people who say, all right, they're
gone there in Tennessee, I don't worry about them anymore.
And they showed up this weekend in Canton, and I

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thought that was pretty cool. You know what's funny about
that scenario you lay out, or the analogy you lay out,
is that that all applies, But I would add a
caveat or a like a like a wrinkle to it.
You still work with the person because they're in your division.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Sure there's not they did block you, they did cut
you off, right, but you still have to see how
they're doing all the time, who they're dating.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
You see you see them at the bar. Yeah, I
mean maybe that's happened to time or two. Who knows,
but I mean, you know, yeah, it does. But it's
also though at the same time, I think it's kind
of like where you get to a certain point where
all right, I'm past it, I'm done. Even if I
see them, it doesn't hurt. It doesn't kind of take
my breadth away of oh god, they're here, like it's
none of those things.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And CJ.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Stroud and Will Anderson and Demiko have helped make that happen. Well,
they're very much younger and sexier they are.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
And it's also too with CJ.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
You've never had what you have right now in him,
so that's even better you.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
CJ right now is probably competing with Warren Moon for
the great gatest quarterback in the history of this city.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, is that fair to say? No, it's absolutely.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I mean because he if he continues, this could very
well be in Canton one day.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So I don't think that's unfair.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
And you know, it's not like, yeah, exactly, you don't
have this long, illustrious list of quarterbacks in Houston lore
that have gone into where you know, Warren Moon and
this weekend Andre Johnson went to And that's that's what
I wanted to get to, and we'll get to that
in a couple of segments. Here Andre Johnson going into
the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the way it
went down and the way he you know, I think

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we saw a side of Andre Johnson that I think
it's safe to say I had never seen and I
put that in literal terms because I covered him day
in and day out for most of his career, especially
on the TV side.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
We'll hear from Andre, we'll hear from Dana Brown, but
we're gonna hear from Joe Aspoted next because I'm gonna
tell you why it's glass half empty for the Houston
Astros when we come back here on a Monday edition
of the eighteen.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Back I'm Clinton had Adam Wexler the eight on Sports
Talk seven ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Eighteen rolling along here on a Monday edition of the program,
wex is out acn Dan Matthews sitting in. Well, you're
actually technically in my spot and then I'm in Wex's spot.
That's true, you know, it's all it's all all goes
down here. Good, Okay, let's talk about the glass half full.
Just kidding, Let's talk about the glass half empty here
for your Houston Astros. Don't worry. This is like when

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you ask somebody, all right, you want the good news
of the bad news first, and you always go bad
first every time because you want to get it out
of the way, right, well that and then also too,
I mean you want to give some sort of optimism
and hope. So yeah, that's what you got there, you go.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That'll be next segment.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
So, uh, the Astros losing two out of three to
the Rays, probably the most excruciating of which was yesterday
where you had basically one I mean, honestly, I look
at it, at least from a starter's perspective, as two
bad swings, one each with these two starters.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
No, you know what it was. It's a football example.
It's your first drive of the game. You got into
the red zone. You didn't even get to kick a
field goal, like, you didn't even get to have it
blocked or miss it left or right, you fumbled the
football and they were covered, or you threw a pick
and that was the best one you had. And then
after that, Gordy's in there, he's not going to like
this analogy, but you pretty much went LSU in the

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twenty twelve PCs National Title game. You didn't you didn't
get across the fifty yard line, both LSU guys.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
So you guys can duke that out right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
I mean, like family, Well, I mean, it's it's more
than anything now it's kind of therapeutic to kind of
get it out. I mean, maybe Arctic. Maybe a coffee
table was broken that night. Maybe it was I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm not judging because I've broken numerous pieces of furniture.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well, my dad judged because at the time I was
living with him and he was like, hey, what happened
to the coffee table? Yeah, let's talk about that, all right.
Well you're buying a new coffee table.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I mean, if you don't own it, that is another
wrinkle to the situation.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Well at the time, that's where my money went. But
you know, glass half empty though with the Astros right now,
because yeah, I mean, let's break them down to build
them back up.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, no, you have to. It's kind of like boot camp.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
And I'm not gonna look at this as tough love
because we already know, we know the issues. We know
not only what they have to do, but that they
can do it.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
This is kind of what we were seeing from the
offensive perspective to start the year.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's how they got dug into the hole they were in.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
The pitching coupled with it was the reason that the
hole got so big in my opinion, you've got good
pitching right now and help is on the way. And
in the case of Yusay Kakuchi, at least for one start,
it looks like health has also arrived. This offense, I mean,
is nails on chalkboard bad? No, it's it's absolutely bad.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
I mean, it's the point where it's, you know, man,
you know we're really hoping they can come through now
that you're almost kind of feeling like as a fan,
you know what, that's on me for believing that this
could be the case. I mean, that's kind of how
it's feeling right now, and it's frustrating. And Joe Spatta
speaking with the media yesterday, because I mean, whenever you
want to get some answers, you go straight to the source.
And one of the things he was asked, I think

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by Chandler was does he see guys at the plate
pressing too much?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
It will come across shortly, we promise on Sports Talks
seven nine.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
No.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
I just think that we're going through a little bit
a little funk. I don't necessarily call it pressing. We'll
start getting some big hits here, you know, pretty.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Soon, all right, So that's all fine, And good. But
it continues on where you know, in the same vein
talking about the at bats that the guys had in
this series.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
You know, the Rays are known for pretty good pitching,
and as you guys be aware, you know, they threw
some big arms at us, and they have stuff, you know,
good fastball, they have stuff that make you you know,
you know, they have whiff you know in their in
their you know.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Their style of pitching. So I think that's what I saw.

Speaker 8 (16:15):
But you know, we have a very important road trip
ahead of us, and we'll turn the page and be
we get ready for the Rangers.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
All right.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I appreciate this optimism because throughout all parts of this season,
if there's one thing you can point to with Joe,
it's been optimism. And probably in some cases where you're
like geez man, Like remember when we had Chandler on
he said that he and Brian McTaggart would joke of, hey,
this is gonna be the day he snaps, like he's
going to finally snap, and he hasn't done it, which
is pretty tough for.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
First year managers.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
But here, as me as a fan hearing that, at
that point, I get tipping the hat. I get doing
all of those different types of things. But it also too,
I think goes a long way, even with your guys
in that clubhouse, if you say, yeah, we're not getting done,
like we've got the guys who can be able to,
as Joe Davis said, turn the game upside down, and
they're not turning the game upside down. And while you

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don't have number thirty in the lineup, it exacerbates it
even worse when number twenty seven looks the way that
he does at the plate, when Number two, after twenty
seven gets on base, rolls over to third base for
a rally killing double play. And as you said also
as well with Jordon Alvarez, he's not doing what Jordon
is supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Twenty home runs on August fifth. He has not hit
a home run since July third. Does that sound too?

Speaker 4 (17:36):
For My last one was in Seattle and it was
the third game, final game of that series, so after
the All Star break later, still I think it.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
You know what July third is. July third was the
last time Jeremy Pania had hit a home run compartic
this year. That's why I had that game in my head,
not that he's lighting the world on fire either. No,
and it's again goes back to everything we've been saying.
It's it's not a matter of you know, it's not
like it's first base, which is its own problem right now,

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and we'll get to that. These are guys that have
done this in the past, these are guys that will
do it again, and these are guys that need to
start doing it again very very soon. The Alex Bregman
twenty twenty four campaign has had its ups and downs,
if you want to go that route, but the downs
have been far more in the valley than any of

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the ups have been at the top of the mountain, Bingo.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And that's the problem too, is he kind of created
it for himself when he set it into live microphones
in spring training of I feel like I'm going to have,
in so many different words, the best season of my career.
All right, fine, bet when you do that, then you
got to build up on it, man, because I can.
I love the pockets of power that he's shown, but

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I need those pockets to be deeper, man, Like I mean,
from what you're getting out of him right now, he's
tremendous with the glove over at third base and he
again yesterday, but it's also to at the same time,
if you're going to get that huge payday and you're
going to be that guy, then dude, you got to
be that guy. And I think that a lot of
people's antenna is up with him already from that playoff

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series they had years ago against Nate Valdi and the
Red Sox where he posted that video and then it
Valdi went out there and shoved and you're just kind
of like, dude, I get the confidence, but at the
same time, man like, if you're going to announce your
presence with authority, then Bud, you've got to announce your
presence with authority.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
And he hadn't done that.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, every time you mentioned Nate Uvaldi, I think about
what a bum he is against the Astros. I'm sure
he's really, really good. You're going to be completely unabated
to the quarterback with me today. I mean, I understand
you get the eye rolls and you know the judgmental
looks usually from that share when you say that, I
don't think that you're going to get as much blocking
from me today. Well listen, and I'm trying. I'm actually

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looking so he and he's going to be the starter
tonight for the UH for the Rangers, Hunter Brown obviously
going for Houston, and I'm just looking. I hadn't actually
looked at the rest of this matchup, but obviously Fromber's
gonna go intomorrow's game and then the finale on Wednesday Night, Texas.

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Currently it says undecided where you say Kakuchi would be
up in the Astros rotation, so I don't know if
we'll see him. I don't know what his last last
start was like, what he looks like, the what the
what's going on with their rotation? But what for whatever reason,
and you bring up that Red Sox series very very

(20:34):
bitter over here.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
To this day about twenty eighteen. It's funny.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
You can literally go down every single year of this run,
and if it didn't end in an Astros World Series,
I can tell you, like to a t what that
season represented to me. Typically in the in the postseason,
you think of eighteen, you think of the fact that
they were eventually found out as being cheaters. Mookie bets
Joe Kelly and the snow cone oversized waffle snow cone

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glove of Andrew Bennettendi in left field, and Joe taking
runs off the board with down two Vay's home run.
I mean Lance mccullor's pitching with his arm on backwards,
Jose Altove playing with his knee on backwards. That's twenty eighteen.
Go to twenty nineteen. I don't need to tell anybody
about Garrett Cole looking like a riled up wild animal

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in the bullpen and then not getting into the game.
I don't need to tell you guys about everything that
was stupid about twenty twenty, the COVID year. I don't
need to tell you guys about the fact that everybody
being upset at Lance mccullor's right now for being hurt.
He was your ace the next season in twenty twenty one,
because oh, by the way, Justin Verlander had Tommy John
and he was out.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
And he ran out of pitching in that series.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
In twenty Pro twenty twenty two, you finally came back
and you won the whole thing. And then last year,
we know what happened with this very team that you're
going to be playing, and then this upcoming series completely
playing over their heads. Who knows what Adolas Garcia is
doing off the field. Yeah, I said it, and they
look like a flash in the pan. So go down
the list. Here we are in twenty twenty four. We

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are spoiled. We have been spoiled, and it's why we
are doing segments back to back that are glass half full,
glass half in.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
But it's also though too. I mean, you create those
expectations and you know, I mean we have it even
in our own imaging of playing for this great city
and you know, winning and doing all those different types
of things.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Then you got to do it.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
And that's kind of what I think a lot of
people look at this twenty four team and they're like, dude.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Have that moment, Like have those moments plural?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, you're looking form. They need to start cropping up,
and now would be a very good time since the
team that you're playing in the next three they're right
behind you, nipping at your heels and the standing. So
we will get to that and why the glass is
actually half full. Got some good news coming up. You
will hear about it when we return here on the
A Team Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 3 (23:34):
Team Sports Talk seven ninety X out for today.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
He'll be back in tomorrow for the rest of the week.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Dan Matthews sitting in Adam Clanton with you on a
Monday edition of the program. All right, before we get
to you know, the glass half Full and the positivity,
we do have a caller on hold that wanted a
vent and I figured, coming out of Glass Half Empty
ASTROS segment, you know, preceding this one, might be a
good time to go to Cyprus and uh see what

(24:01):
our buddy Kyle is up to. Kyle, you're up next
here on the phone line seven one three ninety what's
going on?

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Man?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I appreciate you?

Speaker 10 (24:09):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
I need to vent after that performance. I mean, here's
Eric Getty, first year pitched is ursoff Man and got nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Got zero.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
And you know, you look at it a couple of ways. One, yeah,
people have down, but what's our record? What we won
two and lost five. Sometimes there's there's something at play,
whether it's leadership on the team or the new manager.
So everybody used to rag on Dusty. Well, you know,
maybe he was doing things behind the scene. Ju said

(24:40):
it just now the same team not but a different effects.
The other thing, Painy has gotta sit. He's got to
sit for a game or two. Get his head right.
That was so pathetic. It's like, oh, I'm gonna swing
at this slider. Oh well, throw him another one, throw
him another one. I mean, what was it four k's.
It's just it's it's beyond reprehensible when you when you

(25:02):
cheft somebody like Irragatty and then you see nobody stepping up,
nobody is being a leader in there, and then we
get rid of the only kid that brought a bunch
of enthusiasm, had the fans going. Everybody loved low Perfedo.
I mean, you know, Cabbage, he does nothing for anybody.
I mean, there were other options that could be made.

(25:23):
I just you know, I want to believe, but I
just I don't see it happening this year. I just don't.
It's just something's wrong. And like I said, it's on
the field, it's in the dugout, and it's in leadership,
and that's not good when it's all three.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I appreciate you guys, man, I'm so pissed off.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
It's unbelievable, all.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, Kyle, appreciate the phone call.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Look, it's it is baseball more than any other sport.
I feel like you get you get a call like
that where you're a game out of first place, and
I realized it's not the most competitive division this year.
I feel like we got calls like that and felt
like that all of if not most of last year,

(26:06):
even win the division till the very last day.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
No, I mean, you were sweating it out and it
was different where you're kind of like, oh, you mean,
like we might not be in this thing, like that's
the real possibility. And I get, you know, having that,
especially too when things have been as good as they've
been and you've kind of coasted through August and Septembers
of the past, but it just seems like that's not
going to be the case.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Anymore.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
And you know, I think that kind of like off
Kyle's point is you want to give the benefit of
the doubt because these guys, when it's all said and done,
have usually come through in those spots. And that's kind
of the scary part of all this of wondering, is
this going to be finally be the year that the
damn breaks and we don't make the postseason and it's

(26:48):
having to watch other teams again? Like that sucks, man.
Like I love parades in downtown, that's what I want,
but it's also too at the same time. I mean,
it's kind of like what I said with Joe Espada,
I don't think that you air on the wrong side
of in addition to tipping the hat yesterday like he
did to say, but let's be honest here, guys. I mean,
for the better part of the last two and a
half three weeks, our group has just not gotten it done.

(27:10):
And you're putting your pitchers in a really tough spot,
and those guys know that they've got to come through.
They've they've got to be able to make things happen
at the plate, and if they don't, then we don't
win ball games.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
And that's how it's been playing out now. And look
going back to last year. Listen, I'm not gonna sit
here and act like I was the biggest fan of
Dusty Baker. From an ex's and o's managerial standpoint, I
absolutely respect what he was able to accomplish in the game.
I respect the father figure type of mentorship, psychology side

(27:47):
of things, that kind of thing, But tactician wild wise,
I was never the biggest I mean, this is the
guy that was telling us, you're gonna thank me for
sitting Yainr Diaz. Well, there's a very strong art to
be made that if you hadn't maybe you you break
through in the uh in the ALCS, and I realized
when he got opportunities, uh, he didn't always come through.

(28:10):
But I just I can't, in good faith, as ridiculous
as this might sound on the surface, compare honestly any
of these seasons with others, because in baseball that's just
so difficult to do. Every day of last season, where
they went all the way to Game seven of the ALCS,

(28:31):
I felt like something was quote unquote off I said
this last year on the air.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I've talked about it this year.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I just from the from the time Dylan Cees worked
them over on opening Day and they didn't get a win.
After they got their rings, I just felt like it
and look at how it wound up. This season is
like that on steroids, only you were never feeling like
you were out of it at all. Last year you
were always right there and it's like, oh, great, the
Rangers won again. You had a claw your way back

(29:01):
just to get to where you're at right now. But
the odd thing to me about this season is that
most of the time, when you dig yourself a hole
like that in baseball and you claw your way back
to some extent, and maybe it's perceived versus reality, you
feel like, Okay, did this team expend too much energy
getting back to competing. I don't feel like that's the

(29:23):
case here. If anything, they should be several games in front.
But because of the slumping that they've done from an
offensive standpoint, that's why you're not. Otherwise, Seattle is like,
oh crap, we better have Randy Rose Arena drove in
driving all these runs. Better have Justin Turner be a
guy who we went out and got like, hit a
grand slam off a guy's face. Yeah, that I don't

(29:45):
feel like, you know, the Seattle Mariners are just this juggernaut,
that much better team. Do they have the best rotation
in baseball pound for pound probably? And what's that gotten them?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Well, I mean because they can't hit the baseball and
that's what you know, what you're going going.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Through right now?

Speaker 4 (30:00):
They are and that's the season and that's something that
they've never really ever fixed. And I mean they had
an opportunity, and you shipped away some of the guys
that could help fix that. I mean, I think if
you have Teoscar Hernandez and Hanio Suarez on this team
right now, you're not talking about being down by one.
You're talking about being five or six back of those
guys right now, because I think that's what you subtracted

(30:21):
from that lineup. But you know, kind of getting back
to the Joe in Dusty comparison here is that I
can also understand it from Joe's perspective, where if he
comes across as slightly being overreactive, then he can lose
that clubhouse because Dusty could get away with it because
I think deep down guys would have said, all right,
he played the game at a high level. He's managed
at a high level. If he's saying that about me,

(30:42):
then he's probably right. I think that probably if Joe
pushes too hard on that, then you do have some
of the guys in that clubhouse saying, who the hell
are you? Like seriously, like, what have you done in
this game in order to be able to, you know,
say the things that you're saying about me. So I
think that's kind of the catch twenty two that he's
running into right now is the unfortunate problem. But I mean,

(31:04):
you know, the good thing is you're still in a
good spot and they can turn it around. I mean,
you know, it's kind of the old thing humility is
a week away on the football field. Well, humility has
happened to you on the baseball field, and you can
also be on the good side again. Where kind of
the comparisons that you brought up to last year's team,
Remember it was a trip to Arlington that kind of

(31:24):
flipped things around for them last year.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, and real quick, before we go to break Dana
Brown on the good news the glass half full with
regards to Justin Verlander.

Speaker 10 (31:33):
What's gonna happen is he's going to get one more
light bullpen like that what you would normally throw in
between starts, and then he'll get a start, probably at
one of our minor league affiliates. Most likely it's going
to be Corpus. I think that's what lines up. But
he'll get a rehab start up to ninety four today
and in this session, and so that's a good sign.

(31:55):
Felt pretty good after. You could see the difference in
when you talk to him. I mean I talked to
him yesterday, say he felt really good. And so those
are all good signs that you know JV's coming back.
And so we can get JV back right before we
get that stretch of eighteen games. Maybe go those six
man rotation, give these guys a breather and get on

(32:16):
a roll.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, that's what you're hoping for if you're the Astros
and you get a good lander. I mean, it's nice
to have the name, but you've got to have the
guy that can eat those innings and they can get
those outs. And obviously he's going to need to have
some offense to support him. That these guys this weekend
in large part didn't get all right. When we come back,

(32:38):
we will wrap up the three o'clock hour hearing more
from Dana Brown about the first base position that's next.

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Speaker 2 (34:09):
Winding down the three o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
It's a Monday edition of the eighteen Sports Talk seven ninety.
Dan Matthews in for Adam Wexeler Over there, my name
is Adam Clinton, Trey producing for somebody asked if Trey
Campbell was back. Yeah, no, no wait you know what
like in everybody named Tray that I've ever worked with,
all two of them here, I've really liked. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Usually Trays are affable, good dudes, and but Trey Walker,
but this.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Tray and the Tray that the aforementioned tweet was about
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Speaker 4 (34:46):
But although former Tray old Tray, Yeah, he's doing pretty
well with the stand up comedy game and he's up
in Austin now he is. Yeah, he's been on kill
Tony Tony Hinchcliffe and now that's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
That is a huge deal. Was he on the same
night as the two presidents made an appearance? So the
next one.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I don't think he was on that night, but the
next step for him will be sitting in with Rogan.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
I'm in Mexico and I get that sent to me
by no less than like four different people. It was.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
It was tremendous.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
And I'm like, I'm I'm laying there one night and
you know, kids are asleep, she's out, and I'm laughing
so hard at why.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Am I drawing a blank on Jane Gillis? Was Shane Gillis?
Next time he's in town, We're getting him in studio.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Oh my gosh. It's like a no brainer. And I'm like,
she wakes up, she goes, what are you laughing at him?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Like you gotta see this.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
She's like, you idiots, because you know, she just sees
somebody dressed up as Trump and she thinks I'm looking
at politics again, Like no, no, it's Shane Gillis. It's
a comedy bit. It's kitting. She's just like, shut up.
So anyways, all.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Right, it'd be nice to be able to laugh about
these things.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Well, you gotta laugh to keep from crying on days
like this. The favorite people just don't look at your
four oh one k for like, I don't know the
next ninety days or so.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I would say that if a Monday could be a Monday,
today's been the Monday Ist.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
So all this is to say that our current tray
very chillaxed, very laid back, and I'm a fan, and
he's producing the show today. Wex is back tomorrow, and
Dana Brown is here now because not only did we
so you heard it at the tail end of the
last segment on the The Glass Half Full. You know
Justin Verlander is gonna be back sooner rather than later.
I'm not going to even talk about the Luis Garcia

(36:27):
situation because, as I said last week, it's a gravy.
Whatever you get from him, whatever you frankly we're going
to possibly get from the now for all intents and purposes,
shut down Lance mccullor's junior. All of that is under
the gravy category. That's how I would say, you know,
you would you would look at that. So let's talk
about not only of justin Verlander. But let's talk about

(36:49):
what the plan is at first base, because again, you know,
nobody thought you were gonna get a world beater at
first base with John Singleton, but you were certainly improving
on Jose Brau, which is to say you don't have
a dead person at first base. Okay, the bar was
very low, and this is not an offense at John Singleton.

(37:10):
He had the only offense of the night Saturday. And
he's had some pretty good moments, not only this season,
but remember he drew that walk last year. He was
a big part of why it was a three run
homer for Josel Tuve in Game five, even before that,
I mean the moment of the regular season last year,
he drew the walk to get it started with Kyle
Tucker and the Grand Slam in Baltimore, right right, So

(37:31):
I mean he's he's not. He has a flare for
the dramatic. It's just not some of the steady, everyday
numbers you'd like to have at that position.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
I just like to see more bat flips because I
mean it seems like if he puts the ball off
a barrel, then you're getting a bat flip.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And I haven't seen a ton of batflips.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Loot because Yondi Dia is the one that hit the
home run that just scraped the wall on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
No, I ud maybe it was in right field. Yeah
that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to right field. I think
it was.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
But now he had the leadoff double against Kakuchi and
then yeah, the two run homer by Dylan Carlson. You
just kind of like, wow, yea twenty twenty four, let's
just keep on coming.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Literally, And that's why when I hear Joe as spot
of talking about, you know, you got some good pictures.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
What were the Astros thrown out there this weekend?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I was gonna streak out, strikeout, strikeout, strike out.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
You got to support these guys.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
And that's why I had irrational anger, especially Saturday night,
as the Astros would get up there and in the
inning was over before you could blink, because it was
just the most non competitive bats you've ever seen. Meanwhile,
everybody these no names, I almost swore the slap nuts
that would go up to the plate and just I mean,

(38:40):
they're just that's what it was. They were getting slappies.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Some of them were legit, No, I mean, and I
get that, but it's also too again. I mean, I'm
going to repeat myself because it is I mean the
beginning in the end. I mean, it is the alpha
and the omega of this Astros lineup. When you don't
get anything out of twenty seven to two and forty four,
then you can't expect anything from anyone else. Jeremy Pania
is who he is. Jeremy Pane is a two fifty

(39:05):
two to sixty guy that has started to chase that
outside slider again, and that's not good. You don't want that.
But there's a shelf life on John Singleton. There is
beyond a shelf life on Mauricio Dubon. Anything you get
offensively production wise from Mauricio Dubon is an added bonus
because that's not who he is.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
He in a gravy category.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
He absolutely is in a gravy category.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
I mean in Chaz is that guy right now too,
Where Chaz gave you a great year last year, but
I mean you haven't been able to count on him
at all this year and that's not been fun.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Well, let's get to the planet first base, as it
pertains to what we're talking about here. Dana Brown, Astro's
GM about that exact position.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
NA.

Speaker 10 (39:43):
That's clips of coming attractions. You know, we have to
you know, figure out you know, look if we're going
to get some production and we're going to give some help.
You know, that's why we have a minor league system.
The guy's planned very well.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
You know.

Speaker 10 (39:56):
You look at a guy like Leoni came up last night.
He looked pretty good at the play, you know, look
good in right field, and so sometimes you have to
go with the kids, you know, and it's just part
of what we do in baseball. You know, you see
other organizations calling up young players that are playing well.
You know, guess what, we have good young players as well,
and we're gonna have to call them up, you know.
If if you're not trading them, call them up. And

(40:18):
so we're going to see what they can do if
we get the opportunity, and we're giving them a real
good look. So I say, we should be ready.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
If you're not trading them, call them up. And that's
why I went with pedro Leone, not a first baseman.
Did get his first hit, he busioed it.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
He did do that.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yeah, any single he tried to turn into double, he
said with jose L two base two thousand hit last year.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Hey, that looks fun Let me try that.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yes, it's so funny that those two guys at that
position two thousand and three thousand, respectively. That's exact same
way I mean. And again, look, we all looked at,
at least I did. I looked at Craig Bigio as
a guy who probably stuck around at least two seasons
too long trying to get that mark. I listen, if

(41:06):
I'm that close to three thousand and I can do it,
I'm probably doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Well.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Bernie Mack did as well, and I mean he had
to do a lot more to be able to try
to get to that point.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I can, of course, yeah, not very well.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
But no, I mean he's got a point right there,
and he specifically mentioned Shae Whitgumb and Zach Decenzo. I mean,
it kind of is to a point where maybe it
is a little bit of desperation that you might be
sitting in those meetings with Joe Aspata and saying, we've
got to find something like you love what Singleton's been
able to give you. That's not an everyday option for

(41:39):
this team.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
No, And you're looking at a very real possibility where
you're having to fill both corners this offseason one way
or the other if you don't somehow come to a sweetheart.
I don't even know if I want to call it
a hometown discount, because I honestly don't even know what
the market is for an Alex Bregman right now. But
if you're in a situation where you're having to replace

(42:01):
both of those spots this offseason, twenty five could be
pretty pretty tricky to uh, to just think about. But
it'll be a very very uh hopefully the stove is hot.
Let's put it that way this year, because you still
have some money to spend if you're the Houston Astros.
The Houston Texans spent some money once upon a time
on Andre Johnson. He's a Hall of Famer. Now he's

(42:22):
a first at Rockets hall of Famer. We will discuss
him next.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Two lifelong Houston sports guy's named Adam Talking your Team.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Our number two of three here on Sports Talk seven
to ninety. It is the A Team. On a Monday
edition of the program, wex out today. He will be
back tomorrow. Dan Matthews sitting in my name, of course,
is Adam Clanton Trey producing for us up until six
o'clock tonight. Astro's dropping two out of three over the
weekend to the Tampa Bay Rays or what's left of them.
That's another problem I have, Dan. We're gonna get to

(43:06):
Andre Johnson, I promise you. I just I can't.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Man, I was irrationally angry.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
So I'm struggling with how much I want to reveal
about how I was watching yesterday's game. Because if I'm
gonna talk about how mad I was, but I'm gonna
tell you the environment in which I was watching the game,
it's gonna it's gonna super contradict and it's gonna super
be douchey on my part.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Well, I mean, if you've already read the band aid,
just go ahead and deal with the bleeding.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
All right, Here it goes. And I took an asp
in this morning, so it's gonna be a I'm a bleeder. No,
we got a there's an old reference right there. There
is nothing better in Houston, Texas and really anywhere. But
you know, I think we get a little bit more
of this as far as the calendar goes. There is

(43:56):
a nice stretch where once it's pool weather, which is
like i'd say anytime, you know, Memorial Day forward, you
think it's gonna be like, oh, it's it's warm enough,
and then you put your toe on that water and
then you can do that until late September and get
away with it.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I'd even say early October.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I think you're right good, Well, it depends on how
much you are you a cold plunger. You know, you
gotta you gotta have a tolerance for the temperature of
that water.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
It probably could use it a lot more, be good,
But on the.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
First few days of August, that water's probably gonna be warm.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Let's let's face it, it's not gonna be cold.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah, you're probably you know how like a lot of
people have like heaters for their pool. I mean, I
guess if there's a way that like you can, like, hey,
can I make it even cooler, I'm sure that probably
jacks up the price.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
But whatever, whether it's your pool, whether it's a community pool,
whether you're.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Your pool at the beach, no community pools, because community
community pools are kids.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I'm trying to keep it, you know, I know, casting
a wider night.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I know that you don't imvibe I do, so you know,
it's one of those things that you want to be
able to kind of be uninhibited in that.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
In that case, floating in a pool watching a day
game typically a Sunday Astros baseball game that's elite is elite.
So imagine I'm doing that and it is my backyard.
So it's just great, yeah, because it's got to be
your bull. Yes, and got the kid out there with me,
The wife joins eventually probably four or five innings in,

(45:21):
and it's just there's nothing like it unless it's a
one nothing special against what's left.

Speaker 11 (45:27):
Of the roast.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I was gonna say, I mean, any good vibes that
you could possibly have, because was what the family yesterday.
They have a pool at their house and they were
all out there, but I was I mean, I don't
know if it was basically Stockholm syndrome or whatever it
was at that point, but you know, you shouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
That irrationally angry in that setting. That's what I'm getting at.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
And one of my buddies pointed out, They're like, hey,
let it out, buddy, because they're showing my Twitter feed
and I was letting it out pretty good, and I
mean a lot in some cases, and it'll look I mean,
it's just my honest opinion, and it was frustrating to watch.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
What do you want me to do?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
So what I had to do was remind myself that, hey,
this is the same. First of all, come on, it's
a game. Secondly, come on, look at the setting. But thirdly,
if you want to like not do those first two things,
just keep in mind that over the weekend, and officially
it was made after the game. Andre Johnson was the
first ever Houston Texan Hall of Famer, and I cannot

(46:21):
think I know JJ is going to be the next
one in first ballot, not even a question. And frankly,
his speech will probably be a little bit more electric,
eyeballs on it, whatever you want to call it, because
of who his personality is.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Well it's also too, I mean, he is kind of
a little bit more verboth than right than that's what
Andre is.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
He was there this weekend.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
You kind of got like a feeling, which I'm going
to get to that in just a second, but you
kind of got a feeling which I knew it was
coming with Andre of he doesn't like talking about himself. No,
and that's the ultimate like very Hakim Olijuan. Well, I
mean it's it's not only that. I mean, it's you know,
why do we why can we not stand the Grammys
in the Academy Awards anymore? Because he got a bunch
of people who are doing that, and you're just kind

(47:05):
of like, you did a nice movie. Outside of that,
you really don't have like he exactly exactly. So I
mean that's where andre I mean, he repeated himself of man,
I'm happy as hell up here. And that's the other
part of it as well of why people and I
talked about this on the Saturday Show spent their time
and money because you knew that it would mean a

(47:26):
lot to him, and the fact that even before the
speech he had mentioned of people running into him here
in Houston saying I'm going I'll be with you and right,
I mean, like where you know, it's one of those
things that with people like him that you know work
so hard and they were, they were incredibly productive in
their career. It's pretty awesome, and you want to be
able to let them know like, hey, you did so

(47:48):
much for us, let's do this for you.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Kind Yeah, and look he mentioned running into that woman
at a store. I think that's the thing about Andre.
You talk about being soft spoken, you talk about the
comparison I mean with the greatest athletes in the history
of the city.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Are Andre and Hakim Elijuan in.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Very different ways, but very similar in that they were
soft spoken. And because today's especially culture in sports, lends
itself to the more braggadocious, you know, the the the verbal,
the outlandish whatever, guys like that I think tend to
fall between the cracks, not only with regard to how

(48:25):
fans and media especially remember them and treat them. I
cannot tell you how many times I see, you know,
Shack ahead of Hakem. I don't think it's just numbers.
I think it's personality driven. Well, it's also too, I
mean where Shaq played, I mean playing in LA helped him,
and also too, I mean he played a lot longer

(48:46):
as well. But it doesn't take away from the accomplishments
of the guys. We're talking about, these soft spoken types.
So I was very curious as to what kind of
speech we would get. I knew how the delivery would go.
But I will say that for Andre being who he is,
and how he continues. I mean, he's very consistent with
how he presents himself and how when you hear him speak,

(49:09):
he's the ultimate speak softly man, a few words, but
it makes an impact when he does. I was very
interested to hear how this speech would go, and one
of the seminal moments, obviously, was when he was thanking
his Texans teammates, my Texan teammates.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
What you guys mean to me? Man, y'all don't. I
don't think you guys ever, even though, man, you guys
mean so much to me. We've been through so much together.
It took us a while to get things to where
we wanted to be. It was no overnight success, but
day in and day out, we came to work and

(49:46):
we worked our tails off. And I'm very thankful for
you guys. Man, you guys are my brothers. I love y'all.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I mean, that's the kind of stuff that I don't
doubt it. You guys might not know how much I love, yeah,
because he just doesn't look. I don't know how he
spoke to his teammates when we weren't in there with
cameras and microphones, but I do know this. You you look
at a guy like Andre Johnson, and it's very much

(50:18):
more about how he carried himself on and off the field.
That's why the Courtland Finnigen thing is so ridiculous and
so memorable.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
It's so character for him.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Well it's also too, I mean it's kind of like
what you said, the perception of people. I mean, where
he talked about it with Will Kunkle. Even Courtland's own
teammates were coming up to him and saying, yeah, he
had it coming, man, Like you know.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
If it weren't him, it was gonna be somebody else.
We we understood why you did it.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I mean, it's kind of you know the baseball example
of a guy gets hit by a pitch and it's like,
all right, well you know he was in the wrong
and we understand why. So I mean that's and it's
also too, I mean, you remember this. I was in
that locker room too. There was a presence about Andre,
like when he would just step into the room, like
he wasn't a loud guy. He didn't announce that he
was entering into the room. He kind of just came

(51:04):
in and if it was his day to talk to
the media, we'd talk with them. But aside from that,
you kind of had that enough respect for him of
looking for the camp just just let you know, let
him go about his business because clearly what he does,
he does it well, So I mean, why kind of
get his way in that regard.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Well, I just remembered seeing Andre walk through the locker room,
and I'd be like, well, if I looked like that,
I'd never wear a shirt no matter what the temperature
was outside, Just walk around without my shirt on all
the time.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Because he's freaking built of grain. He'sn'n Adonis. There's there's
no doubt about it. And you know, I mentioned about
JJ Watt and I always loved this of people, and
I still get this question, Oh is he going to
come back? Did you see the photo that they had
of he and Andre on either side of his bust.
I pointed out, I was like, he's Andre's size, Like
he's probably lost about fifty pounds a Yeah, since he

(51:48):
played like dudes retired. Now he's done dudes, doing Miller
like commercials and doing TV with CBS's that's his life now,
that's what he wants to do.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Yeah, I don't think he necessarily want to get back
into the grind of day to day when juxtaposed with
what you just mentioned he's got. It's like Jimmy Johnson, well,
why wouldn't he come back and coach? Why would he.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
See And that's and that's the thing is a lot
of these guys on TV, you get to play the
part without actually doing the part. Like a lot of
these guys that are coaches when they go into TV,
they're like, wait, you mean I get to watch film,
I get to talk to coaches and players and all
these different types of things, and I don't have the
owner breathing down my neck. Of course, I'm gonna stay
doing this.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah, now, I just I couldn't get enough of the speech,
and we're gonna next segment, we're gonna play some more
from it. Because I was very like I said, I
was very interested to see it. I didn't get to
see it live, and then because of the weather delay,
it bumped on the DVR, so I had to go
find it after the fact. But I wanted to watch
it in its entirety. And I was also interested to see, uh,

(52:49):
how Gary Kubiak, you know, introduced him to put him
into the Hall of Fame. I did like the fact
that it was Gary. I thought that was uh. I
thought it was interesting because, you know, much like the mcnairs,
I think there was a time and this is just me.
It's not from anything I know. I'm just observing what

(53:10):
we all saw. Anybody could have watched this. I think
there was probably a time where Andre Johnson might not
have been the biggest Gary Kubiak fan from the standpoint of, well,
we're getting down to the field because of me, and
then you're not throwing me a jump ball in the
end zone. There's a reason that Andre Johnson never had
double digit touchdowns here in Houston.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Well, it's also too I mean, I think we can
look back on it now and say, I think Gary
was kind of I wouldn't say abused, but he was
underappreciated by Texans fans.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Oh, for sure. It's it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
It'll be interested interesting to see how much more that
relationship and that, you know, that element of Texans history
ages as the years go by, especially with what's on
the roster now. More from Andre Johnson's Hall of Fame
Weekend next, him and Adam are so.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Houston that it's weird to not be wearing shorts well,
Marmie queuing on Christmas Day, Adam Platon on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
You know, it was a it was a very interesting Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I mean, you know, it's one of thoks. We don't
we don't have to yell anymore. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
It was.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
It was a very interesting deep deep breath. Uh, it
was a very interesting Hall of Fame weekend. I'll just
I'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Not from the state. Look, Andre Johnson was I mean,
probably couldn't have scripted it any more perfect. It was genuine,
the u the humbleness, the appreciation, and as you said,
and he pointed out multiple times in his speech, the
genuine happiness that he was feeling came across the screen.

(55:12):
If you happen to be up there and you've made
it back because apparently some of you guys had difficulty
because of weather, I guess like it. It came across
on the screen, I know that much. And it came
across in some of the things that he said. Now
you heard last segment, you know, thanking his Texans teammates.
But I thought it was interesting that he talked about

(55:34):
the Texans organization and the future of the Texans organization
for for a few reasons. Obviously, when you say something
like that, you're kind of putting your name on the line,
You're kind of putting your reputation on the line because
you are, in your own way, believing that there's more
to come. Now, we already know that there's gonna be
guys or at least one guy for sure in the

(55:55):
past that played for the Texans. It's Texans that's going
to be number two, and that's JJ Watt. We've already
talked about him, but he's talking about some of the
guys that are not only on the roster right now,
but we're there in attendance. I'm not saying I didn't
expect a CJ. Stroud and a Tank Dell to be there.
I certainly don't think I expected to see Michael Jordan

(56:16):
walking around. But Dwight Freeny's guest and Julius Pepper's idol, respectively,
was in the crowd. But yeah, like Andre Johnson's like, look,
there's more to come, and he talked about that when
he talked about the Texans organization and what could happen
to some of those guys one day very soon from now.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
To the team that Houston, Texans. Is that out here, man,
I hope you guys really take this in, enjoy it
chaerishit because one day one of you guys gonna be
standing up here. Man. I love you, brother, I appreciation.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I mean, he's talking about CJ. Stroud. Let's face, he's
talking about CJ. Shroud.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
We have It's been frankly unbridled in this studio, during
this time of day, the love that we have given
a kid that hasn't even completed an entire solid seventeen
game season yet. But I think that's I think there's
something to that. I think it's I think it's warranted.

(57:24):
The key is going to be this season throughout, is
he having the encore you want?

Speaker 6 (57:28):
Well?

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I mean, and that's the thing is, there's no reason
to believe that he would take a step back, even
though it's going to be better competition this year that
you're facing us the make and make out that in
film on him, because I mean, it's kind of already
in this scenario A fool me once because remember too,
before all of the Tony Buzby stuff happened with DeShawn Watson,
he was Houston's guest. Like everybody loved Deshaun Watson, like

(57:51):
he stepped up during Hurricane Harvey, and you thought this
guy's awesome, like he's everything is advertised that Dabbo and
everybody told us that he was out of Clemson. Then
you found out who you like to climb into the
dms on Instagram and things kind of spiraled out of
control after that.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Wouldn't you love to have a conversation with Dabbo about
him now.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Off the record, Yeah, I mean that'd be the only
way that you could get him to say anything, because
I mean, you know, it's kind of like in coaching,
it's like politics, you're always campaigning well and you know,
coaching you're always recruiting, and especially now with a transfer
portal and everything. But yeah, he would never go on
the record of being like, oh boy, kind of missed
on that one.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Like you would think that if it's that pronounced that
you would have an inkling of it.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Well, it's also too, I mean, I think with Deshaun,
I mean, you know, it's kind of a you know,
just full heel turn because he's still to this day
is talking about what the media is saying about him
when it's like you don't even exactly, and that's just
that's the whole point about it as well, accountability with him,
And that's exactly it. I mean, it's you know, the

(58:58):
things that it was, you know, one, two, three, four,
twenty two, Like that's not a mistake at a certain point,
so maybe soon enough you kind of say to yourself, yeah,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
The greatest of people.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
Well, and if it's just at the very least mistakes
were made, like at least give us that.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Man, here's my thing. You know, athletes, entertainers, celebrities have
been extorted in the past, and they will be extorted
again if it is extortion, though, why isn't this happening
with anyone else to the extent of that many cases?

Speaker 4 (59:36):
And that's exactly, I mean, the whole thing of you
know a lot of times and this is going to
come across as victim blaming, but it's also too it's
kind of like you're not fully off the hook in
this case. Does that make sense, like we're you know,
why why was that scenario even allowed to happen at
a certain point.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Well, I think if you look at what we know,
the depositions, the the written you know, the facts or
at least the allegations they are in written form. And
then these cases, whether they're anonymous or in some cases,
you know, the identity of the accuser was revealed. Accusers

(01:00:16):
was revealed. Let's just take the number. Let's just play
the numbers game, like how many of those are that
versus how many? It's when there's that many, the fact
that you can even make that statement, you can get
mad at me all you want.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
It's just no, I just don't believe that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Oh they all just made it up, or one of
them made it up, and then they all follow suit
because they're just trying to get money out of this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
You know. If that's the case, don't settle.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Well, I mean it's not only you know, don't settle,
but it's also too. I mean, it's kind of to
a certain point where remember in Major League when it's
Tom Berenger's character in Renee Russo talking about a woman
that showed up with a paternity suit, and he's like, oh,
it was a hoax. But then Renee Russo's point was, yeah,
but you obviously were with her. Like that's kind of
That's kind of where I'm going with it, Like, you know,

(01:01:00):
like maybe like you didn't necessarily do anything wrong criminally
or you know, even you know, civilly in this case.
But it is also too to a certain point where
it's like there's enough smoke and fire there, man, like that.
That's what I think kind of in play with all
of this. But I mean, you know, kind of tying
this back to CJ. I mean, the beauty of it is,
what's the worst thing that we can point to with

(01:01:21):
him is maybe he gave Amber Rose a ride to
her hotel and then people were like, oh god, CJ,
don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I was one of those people.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
No, I get that, but I mean it's also too
at the same time, I mean, he seemingly is. I mean,
and you know, he talked about it again this weekend
in terms of how his public perception is and everything
of the sort, Like I think he understands it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
And it's also too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
It's part of what I think is like the overall
team building aspect that Nick Cassario has is dude, go
get guys from programs in college that are used to winning.
So then when you get to this level, the things
that you're being asked to do, you already have a
four year head start and doing that, and CJ is
one of those guys. Yeah, and this goes all back
to Andre Johnson, the first ever Texans Hall of Famer,

(01:02:04):
wouldn't want to have it any of the way. I
think it's you know, not that I thought there would
be a scenario where JJ would beat him, because then
that just means that basically his over and over and
over not getting in lines up with the first year
of eligibility because JJ's gonna be a first battle. Well,
but here's also the thing too as well, with both
of those guys, you don't have Demiko in the building
if it's not for those guys speaking up the way

(01:02:26):
that they did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
I mean I remember the press conference that JJ Watt
had when they announced that Bill O'Brien had been fired,
and I mean, you want to talk about shots across
the bow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Hey, he was not a fan.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
He pretty much said, this guy made you hate us,
and you guys all loved us for years, and that
sucks because we had a great thing going with you
all the fans out there, and then with the JACKI
Easterby stuff where you had Andre Johnson of all people
telling at the time, Deshaun Watson, stand your ground, don't
stand for having that clown in the building. And I

(01:02:58):
mean he straight up himself on Twitter going there has
been nothing good happening in that building, and it's just
kind of I mean at the time, I obviously wasn't
back here in Houston, but I'm still paying close enough
attention to the Instagram post was amazing, but like my
whole thought was, how blind can you be to see
that nothing good is happening in that building.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Because of that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Guy in the one guy who's conditioned to love you
in every single circumstance is compelled enough to say, hey,
I hate this guy. You should hate him too, because
he's ruining your franchise.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
It was out of character, again, not what we're used to,
but needed to be said. And that's why I say
when he says something, it makes an impact. Like what
he said very quickly is because we go to break
to his mom, who was in the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
This was a fantastic part of the speech.

Speaker 7 (01:03:45):
I want to thank my mom all your hard work, sacrifice, dedication.
It didn't go unnoticed the way you raised me and
my little brother. It was a hall of fame effort. Today, Ma,
you going to Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
I mean, if that didn't get you, I was gonna
say that that was the part for me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
And she's there, you know, all the elements were there,
and you know you've seen these speeches before. It's not
the first time that mom has been shouted out. But
you could just tell again a quiet guy like Andrea
making it known just how important it was that she
raised him, and you know, making a point to let
her know that he recognized that and gave her that moment.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Well, it's also I mean, you know, it goes all
the way back to when he was drafted that he
had that moment with his mother, and also now too
where it's hey, I'm not here without you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
No, it's it goes without saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
And it was just a great weekend and well deserved
for the first ever Houston Texans Hall of Famer. The good,
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Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Now the good Good, the bad that's not good, and
the ugly don't make me good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
With the A Team, we're.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
Still wing you the good the bad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
It is signature segment time here on a Monday edition
of the A Team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
And because it's Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Well, I mean, we all know what the rules are
when WEX isn't here, right, signature segment time here on
the A Team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Well, it's not a new signature segment that comes later. No,
that is is y very nice Baine reference right there,
that comes later. It's true.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
All right, the good, the bad and the ugly from
over the past forty eight to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
You know, seventy two ish hours. We'll go forty eight.

Speaker 9 (01:06:52):
This.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I have an idea how this might go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
You have the good, I had the bad, or actually
WEX was scheduled to have the bad, I had the ugly.
We'll probably we'll probably co op the final two. Okay,
but I have ideas where this is going to go.
But I'll let you go with the good first, obviously,
because that's your assignment.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Yeah, I mean, so you know the obvious good locally
is Andre. It certainly wasn't what was happening in minute
May Park other than you know, Friday night that was
good ish. But you know, for all of the good
things on the course that Scotty Scheffler has done, I
do a lot of golf for mine, either good or.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Bad, you do do a lot of golf.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
And this one I think is warranted because Scotty Scheffler
taking the gold medal in the men's individual for golf
there in Paris, and they play the national anthem and
he holds it together pretty good. But then once it
gets to the end, you know, Home of the Free,
Land of the Brave, that's when the waterworks start coming
out for him, and you're kind of like, you know

(01:07:51):
how they say you can't put a price tag on that,
Like that's it right there. He's earned millions on the tour,
he's won a couple of green jackets, not gold jackets, jackets,
and has been one of the best players on the
tour for everything that I just threw out there, But like,
that's that moment right there, like where the pride and
everything kind of bubbled up for him where he's like,
holy crap, man, like this is one of the coolest

(01:08:13):
things that I think I could have ever done in
my entire career. And I think it's like most of us,
Like you watch these athletes like Simone Biles numerous times
up there of hearing the national anthem played, where I
think that emotion kind of comes through where you're like,
I just did this for my country, like that's a
cool moment, and I just thought that was really really
awesome and really good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
No, it is. It's national pride as it pertains to
the Olympics typically goes hand in hand. I think it's
funny at times because I feel like, in a weird way,
this gets highlighted during this time of every four years

(01:08:53):
or every two years, I guess in this case, and
then maybe the rest of the time when that's not happening,
you look at national pride is maybe a different in
a different direction. But that has to do with like
other factors, I guess. So you know, sometimes you can
point out some hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I'll just leave it at that, sure.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
But no, it's definitely a good thing to see, Like
it was the Olympics were on yesterday when we were
eating dinner in a restaurant and my son looks up
and he's like he continuously like lately he's about to
be sick, He's about to go into kindergartens. He keeps
surprising my wife and I with just how observant he is,

(01:09:35):
whether it's like piping in with something that he heard
in a conversation that we said that maybe we didn't
think he was necessarily listening to as closely, because he
certainly has a selective hearing at times, especially if his
iPad is involved, but also just like, oh, I've had
a field trip at that place over there that we're
passing by in the car and we're like, how did
you remember that that's where that is?

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
He just he impresses us. So yesterday the Olympics were.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
On on a TV in the bar area at the
restaurant that we were at, and he sees that from
where we're sitting and whatever the event was, because I
wasn't paying attention, USA had finished first, and he goes, man, yes, Usa,
I knew our country was gonna win, And we're like,
what is just like we didn't even know that he
even got the concept of that. It was literally like

(01:10:19):
a list of how the country's finished, and it had
to have been at least ten deep, and he sees
the flag at the top because he can't read necessarily
United States of America. He sees the flag and it's
not you know, those those lists. Relative to the screen,
it's not that big. So we know two things. He's
paying attention and his vision isn't great, isn't bad. So
we were just like, wow, you know, and he gets it,

(01:10:42):
so it was pretty cool. The bad, obviously is going
to be anything Astros offense related. And it goes without
saying from over the weekend specifically you drop to it.
What did I say on Friday to wex, you need
to sweep this series?

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Yeah, and that was kind of ringing in my ears
all week and long, where I take two or three
objective completely missed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Oh my gosh, especially on Saturday was probably the worst. Well,
Yesterday was probably the worst, then Saturday, and then you
at least one to salvage at the beginning of the series.
The series, I don't know, just really really disappointing in
light of it. In the end, you got off the
hook because the Mariners lost again.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of the only saving grace
from all of this is you know, and again pointed
it out on Twitter at Dan Matthews, hou one T
and Matthews. So it's all caps so I'm yelling at you.
You know that, But I was like, look, it doesn't
underscore what you're not doing. And that's the problem of all.
This is the fact of the last two and a
half three weeks that you have not hit. It's a

(01:11:44):
reason why you have not padded your lead when you've
had a lead or even been able to cut into
the lead once you fall behind.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
The ugly might seem like it's out of left field,
but as we're into August and college football be here
before you know it. When you have the following quote
from a former player anonymously talking about the locker room
atmosphere under Dion Sanders at Colorado, this isn't ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
This isn't this isn't bad. This is ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
It's like a real life Grand Theft Auto video game.
There are many distractions with fights that seems in the locker.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Room, guns.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
And money floating around. The environment is unlike any I've
come from before. Now again, they went one to eight
in their final nine games after that, and again, look,
anybody can get off to the type of start that
they did when you consider the opponents and everything like that.
Depending on any given schedule, this sounds to me, like
a Gilbert Arenas Washington Wizard's locker room. This sounds like

(01:12:52):
some of the stuff like Latrelle's Freewell choking out PJ. Carlissimo,
like out of character. This isn't just regular run of
the mill. Oh, this team has fights or scraps in
the locker room that probably should stay in house guns.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
I mean, it kind of underscores the whole thing about
why culture is so important, but it's also too as well.
Of people will say, oh, what about the cowboys of
the mid nineties. Mike Lervin himself would even talk about, Yeah,
we partied hard, but guess what, when it was time
to practice, we were there. It didn't matter how hungover
we were or anything like that. We were there. So
I mean, it's about being able to have it both ways,

(01:13:30):
but then knowing, Hey, that other one's got to go
out the window because this one's the one that matters.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
And I think, you know, when you put this on
top of Whatmani McClain had to say, the former player
who's still anonymous said about that situation, he was taking
a lot of heat from everyone. At the same time
Coach Prime was saying he was in the doghouse and
needed to improve. He was getting bullied by Shiloh Sanders.
After the Oregon State game, Shiloh slapped him several times,

(01:13:55):
which left Cormani screaming quote, I'm going to kill you repeatedly.
After that, you could tell he wasn't mentally there. It's
hard when the coach, coaches you trust, are calling you
derogatory names on the practice field. Jordan Seaton came out
and said some things talking about bullying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I mean the list goes on and on and on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
So, Dion, the the bloom is off the rows and
now the rubber is gonna meet the road, and let's
see what he's got in year two.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Do you think A and M fans now are probably
looking at some that we're saying, hey, they should hire
him and saying, I guess we were right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
The Aggies can ill afford to make another bad coaching higher.
I just that funny. Yeah, this is this is gonna
be something interesting to keep an eye on. All right,
we are going to come back. We're gonna give away
concert tickets for free, because that's what we do here.
On the A Team Sports Talk seven nineties, we wind
down the four o'clock hour. Next, I want to tell
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Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
The A Team now continues.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Winding down the four o'clock hour. Here on the A
Team Sports Talk seven ninety wex out today acn, Dan
Matthews and Treys our producer. We take you up until
six o'clock tonight. You got football at five coming up
at the top of next hour. Plenty to talk about
from over the weekend, with Andre Johnson going into the

(01:16:29):
Hall of Fame and with you know, just the feel
good vibes and in that vein.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Let's give away something right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Let's give away a pair of tickets to see Santana
on the One NIS Tour.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
You gotta say that carefully, Dan, I was gonna say.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
I almost thought at first, you're gonna go Onesie, but
not a Onesie tour, the one NISS Tour.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
So yeah, I have never seen Santana live. I'd actually
like to go to this show, particularly because it in
Toyota Center, which means that it is a August twenty
third show indoors.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
That's key, No, that's huge, especially too, we were going
to possibly make the matchbox twenty show this weekend, but
ended up not happening and then lightning delay there, so
a good thing we didn't try to go. Plus, I
mean me and Gordy went and saw sticks and it
was like surface of the sun hot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
It was okay, just.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
In that vein.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Were you sitting under the pavilion? Yeah, we were under
the pavilion. Were you under a fan?

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
We were under a we were adjacent to a fan.
I don't think we were really getting much of the
fans wind.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Okay, because I've been to a I believe it was
June or July last summer. I went to a show
out there and I was like, just isn't that bad?
Maybe I caught it on a good night. I'm going
to go to a show this weekend. I'll tell you
about that a little bit. But let's get these tickets away.
Pair of tickets to see Santana on the one in
this tour by the way, tray, I put the answer
in the rundown if you scroll down. But this is

(01:18:00):
pretty obvious, and because it's Monday, I'm saying that for
everybody involved, including the callers at seven one, three two
seven ninety. Basically, if you don't get this right on
the first try. Whoever gets through first, Well, I have
questions about your mental capacity.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
And do not ask Trey what the question is and
the other part of it as well. Do not ask
when Trey tells you what you are trying to win? Well, hey,
do you have any of these? No, we're not marshalls. Okay,
all right, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Uh, by the way, this is a hal I don't
care anybody says this is a hall. A pair of
tickets to see Santana on the one this tour with
special guests Counting Crows Live August seventeenth at Toyota Center.
I misspoke earlier because tickets for that one are on
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tickets to see Sammy Hagar on his Best of Both

(01:18:51):
Worlds tour with special guests lover Boy August twenty third
at the Woodlands Pavilion. Tickets are on sale for that
one at ticketmaster dot com. So two different concerts, a
pair of tickets to each. It's so easy seven one three,
two one two five seven ninety. Who did we say
would have the most obviously different Hall of Fame speech

(01:19:15):
from Andrea Johnson? This is a no brainer in that
if you don't know this and you're the first one
that gets through, you might not have a brain.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Doesn't mean what that No, it's it's not sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
I mean there is kind of one of those situations
where you know from Wizard of Oz starts to come
into play right there, and you know that's you know,
you try, you try your best to be nice. But
as but as my mom told me, you know, Bud,
you can't save everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
No, you cannot, you cannot, all right, So look over
the weekend. Obviously the feel goods with with the Texans
versus the not so feel goods with the Astros. But
the good thing about baseball, We've said this a million times,
no rest for the weary. That could be good if
you are wanting to put a weekend like the Astros

(01:20:06):
just have behind you. It can also be not so
good if you're I don't know if you if you're
if you're basking in the glory of something and then
sometimes you get caught up in it, like, for example,
a walk off win over the Dodgers and you think,
all right, sweeps on the way, and then you end
up winning or losing your next three in a row
as it stands here. I don't want to call this

(01:20:26):
a trap, but it could look that way. And here's
what I mean by that. You're going to Arlington, where
you have been really, really good since that building opened.
We all know we've made the jokes about the lows.
Astros has just been good in that building, even in
the especially in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
The inside the stadium is really nice. I actually will
give them that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Yeah, concourses, amenities, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
You're way way.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Too far up from the standpoint of the cameras, though.
I don't like that. I don't like any stadium you
can automatically tell when you turn it on. And there's
NBA arenas like this, the vantage point of the cameras
which gives the viewer at home what they're how they're
going to look at any given game. I think the

(01:21:14):
I want to say, not the United Center. There's an
NBA arena that feels like this where you can tell
that where the cameras that are going to give you
your your main shots for the game at any given
time are just further up. I can't remember which one
is I want. For some reason, I wanted to say
it with Chicago, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
I want to say maybe Memphis maybe one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
I think Utah is one of them because that's a
very tall building and that the it's the stands are
more vertically inclined.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Like you'll know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
If you go to Toyota Center for any event, it
doesn't have to be Rockets game. If you're not in
the lower bowl, you go up top, it's like, whoa steep?
I was gunya say, Sat Peter?

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Is that you? Hey? What's up? Buddy? Fly for you?

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
I mean you're on like the roof of you know,
the Sistine Chapel.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
Baby and shooters have talked about that too at Toyota Center, right,
just because of the room behind the basket.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Tracy McGrady used to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
It like, I mean, that's what kind of surprised me
when I went to now Crypto dot Com. But it'll
forever be Staple Center. I mean it looks like just
like this massive building and from the outside it kind
of is. Then you get inside and you're like, it's
not as large as I thought it was going to be.
It's kind of more compact than honestly I thought it
was going to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Be well, that's how at least, and again having been
up in the press box, having spoken to Blum about this,
for example.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
You know what's up man? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
He hates the vantage point and he's not shy about
saying it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Besides, it's the Rangers. But I can't see anything nice
about these guys. The hell's wrong with you, man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
They're trying to breathe down your neck. They have gotten healthier.
Josh Young is back. He is in the lineup tonight.
He's batting clean up. By the way, it's going to
be Smith Seeger, Simeon Young, Langford Low Arcia patting seventh,
Tavaris and Kelly al Tuvey is gonna lead off. Bregman Alvarez,

(01:23:08):
who's dhing Yaina will be batting cleanup and catching Pania
Myers Chaz in left field to Bond at first base,
and pedro Leone is getting the start in right field,
with Hunter Brown going opposite Andrew Heiney tonight. So in
case you're wondering about the lineups that gets you ready

(01:23:29):
for the opener of this series, we will get you ready. However,
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Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Why You're ready?

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Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
FOOTBA America is a special game football at five. Well,
should we wait five more seconds until it's officially five o'clock, Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
No, it's five o'clock somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
It's true. It always is all right as we are
straight up five o'clock here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
It is the eighteen third and final hour of a
Monday edition of the program. It's been heavily heavily Astros
and Texans today, probably a good place to start your
Houston Texans. Dan. By the way, in for Adam Wexler,

(01:25:30):
he'll be back tomorrow. My name is Adam Clanton. Trey
is producing as we take you up until six o'clock tonight.
Astros and Rangers starting a three game set tonight with
Hunter Brown going opposite Andrew Hey. But this is it's
not earth shattering news unless when Dimico says what he's

(01:25:51):
about to say is we will play it for you.
It involves a certain someone. Here's what Dimiko had to
say about who will be playing in the texans upcoming
second preseason game. This would be Friday, night. Here's what Demiko,
the head coach of yr Houston Texans, had to say
when it.

Speaker 12 (01:26:10):
Comes to the snaps in preseason. I think everybody's trying
to teams don't play start or some play all right.
I truly believe in that a guy needs to get
reps in a preseason game.

Speaker 7 (01:26:20):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:26:21):
We don't go to the ground, as you see the
way we practice. We try to keep guys up and
be as safe as possible in practice. I think everybody
needs that opportunity to go to the ground a couple
times in the game and just get up, dush yourself
off and know you know you're good, right, and I'm okay,
Like I can go to the ground and get up.
So you just have to go through and play live
reps of football before live action comes in September. So

(01:26:45):
you'll see our ones go out and get reps this
week versus Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
We'll see our ones go out and get reps this
week versus Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
How many ones, Well, I mean I think you'll see
all of the ones. You see number seven, Yeah, he'll
see number seven for a series.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
So that's what I'm saying. Like again, I go back
to what I said last week, I didn't expect to
see any of them in that because it's an extra game,
which means really, I mean, this is how I look
at preseason, fair or not. It's just extra chances for
you to hurt guys that don't need to get hurt
in games it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Don't count and bingo, that's the number one. But I
mean it's also too at the same time. I mean,
if you listen to what he said right there talking about, look,
we do everything possible to make sure that we get
through the practice weeks healthy. That's objective number one, But
then the other one too as well. I mean it's
kind of one of those things that with his team
now he feels a little bit better about getting those

(01:27:38):
guys reps. He gave those guys reps last year out
of necessity. I think that now it's kind of going
to be looking at the situation who are we playing against?
Like last week, you're thinking to yourself, there's zero reason
to have CJ. Stroud go out on the field and
play in that game. Maybe the fans of Ohio would
have loved it, but in terms of what it does
for all about that, but what it does for us,
it does nothing. And it's also too who you play

(01:28:00):
against a young, un inexperienced.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Team, seventh stringers. So this week you're.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
Playing against a veteran team that has a coach that
I guarantee you he'll talk to his guys and Demiko
the same deal as well, about nobody needs to go
out here and be a hero. You're gonna get your chances,
you're gonna get your handful of plays, but then you're
back here on the sideline, pads are off, everything like that,
and your day is done. And I guarantee that Mike
Tomlin is a guy that probably says the same thing.

(01:28:26):
I don't need any hit stick hits out here. I
don't need any hero ball out here. They're trying to
stay healthy. You're trying to stay healthy, so let's accomplish that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Let's move on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Yeah, and staying healthy is the key, which means, okay,
if you if you must have CJ. Stroud out there
one series, please go three and out. Is it bad
that I want them to go three.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Out on a series?

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
It's not bad because I mean, you just want every
single opportunity where I think, you know, again mixing the
sports examples here, I mean it kind of starts to
mold in a little bit of the World Baseball Classic
in jose L Twov wearing a fastball off his thumb,
and you're just kind of like, damn it, man, Like
did that really need to happen?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Like did we really need to have guys playing in
this thing?

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
You know what's funny about that is and I was
one of those people, and I got so much blowback.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
That was actually the beginning of the end of me
on social media.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Just I mean, I just got tired of all of
you out there that's listening, Like, I got tired of
that aspect of it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
And it's your interactions to followers. I'm telling you, man,
it changes your life.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Yeah, and I get I mean, look because people.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
At that point choose to be angry with you, and
if that's the case, I can't help that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Yeah, no, it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
But again, you get you get in, you get accused
of being in your own echo chamber. But at the
end of the day, I've gotten to the point now where,
especially in an election year for example, m M. Not
that I tried to stay away from that kind of stuff,
at least on Twitter X whatever you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Want to call it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Now why would you talk about NFL notifications like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
There's just some really stupid, stupid stuff out there.

Speaker 7 (01:30:11):
But I just.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
I don't like unnecessary injuries that can be prevented. Oh
so if it happens in a regular season game, that
was my favorite retort from Okay, well al Tuba got
hit on the thumb in this, in my opinion, meaningless.
I know it's not meaningless to the players I know about,

(01:30:35):
you know, pride and all that kind of stuff for
your country. I don't care. I just don't care because
at the end of the day, I think the games
that he plays for the Houston Astros are more important.
I think the games that c J. Stroud's plays that
actually count in the standings are going to be far
more important than any sort especially in this case. But like, well,
it can happen in those games. Okay, fine, So you

(01:30:56):
feel any better if it happens in those games, Yes,
because they matter. I mean, it's about the scenario. I
mean because last week.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Yes, if you played in this game last year, then CJ.
Stroud plays. Because you're saying I don't know enough. Now
we're telling everybody it's a competition. But if we're really
being honest with ourselves, we didn't move up in the
draft and do what we did to have him sit
on the bench and have Davis Mills playing games. That's
just not serving anybody. And they of course ended up

(01:31:25):
not going that route, which was nice. But you have
offensive continuity, so you don't have to worry about that.
You don't have to worry about, oh, getting your timing
rights and everything like that. That's a bunch of garbage
in certain terms, but in this case right here, I mean,
you can't expect him the second week of September to
go out there and immediately be fresh and ready to
go game ready without actually getting some looks on the field.

(01:31:47):
And let's see, last year, he played what the first
quarter in the first preseason game, and I'm doing this
all for memory, and I feel like he played into
the second quarter of preseason game number two and then
that was it. He doesn't need any more than a
handful of series, Like I guess, the one coming up
after this game, I guess is going to be the
one that's like the old when you had four preseason games,

(01:32:09):
the one that you at least played the first half
and then after that it was going to be all right,
whoever's still here, you get your opportunities now to make
the team. I think you're going to see a far
more paired down version of that. And it's also too
you're not showing anything exotic offensively or defensively, because you
don't want to put any extra film out there that
could be used against you later on in the season.

(01:32:31):
So I don't really think you're worrying about that. And
it's also I would think that, yeah, you want to
see him throw a couple of passes, but I know
about the receiver room, I know about the tight end room.
To your point of going three and out, I think,
if anything, the objective would be, hey, showcase what those
guys can do in the backfield, because we have to
weed out some of these guys, and we're going to

(01:32:51):
have some guys that probably have a chance to play
for other teams, but we at least need to make
sure that we're not sending the wrong guy out the
door and keeping.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
The wrong guy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Yeah, and I think I mean as much as I
downplay starters and specifically CJ. Stroud getting out there in
a meaningless preseason game, it is not obviously completely meaningless
because at the end of the day, what these games
really are, particularly back in the day, the fourth preseason
game before the schedule changed, is okay, who's on a bubble?

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
Well, there was that, I mean, and it's also though too.
I mean, if you're talking about those guys, then the
special teams reps are the ones that matter the most
because that's where those guys are going to shine for
your team, if they make the fifty three, and if
they're even guys that suit up on game day and
are not inactive for you. But you have certain spots
that I think you need to look at and shore up,

(01:33:45):
and interior defensive line is one of them. So you're
probably going to be giving those guys a little bit
more looks. We saw Juice Scruggs and Kenyon Green playing
the game on Saturday or excuse me, on Thursday night
last week, and for Kenyan it was because he didn't
play at all year, and for Juice Scruggs, it was, hey,
you kind of late in the season became our starting
center and that's a spot we really need to solidify.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Yeah, And speaking of Kenyon Green, he's excited to play
against Pittsburgh this week in this second preseason game.

Speaker 7 (01:34:15):
That's gonna be exciting.

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
You know, still as hard nosed, physical team, So you
know that's is gonna get us prepared for the regular
season going against you know, defensive lines like that, and
you know the linebacker crew they have, so it's gonna
be you know, a great.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Battle, maybe one of the most. Keep your eye on
this guy guys for the twenty twenty four Texans because
of where he was taken, because of what you expect
from someone that's taken where he was taken in the draft,
because of the position he plays.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Because I keep beating that dead horse.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
I just cannot You can't have a good enough offensive line.
You can't continue adding to it enough. You might have
the five guys that you know, snap in, snap out
for the most part, you know, rotations be damned, these
are going to be the five that I want in
front of CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Stroud more often than not.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
They've got the biggest, baddest offensive line in the entire NFL.
And I'll still be like, draft another one, draft another one. Well,
I mean, and that's the thing is both offensive and
defensive line. There is not a single coach in the
world who looks at those spots and says, man.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
I got too many of these guys. What am I
to do? I mean, you want to have even more.
It's like pitching in baseball. You can never have enough.
So I mean that's a point that is incredibly valid,
especially too when you factor that that was a group
probably much more than wide receiver last year, that we
looked at and said this, and he's not going to
play and we've got a rookie quarterback. Damn, this could

(01:35:42):
be a really tough year, and it turned out to
be an awesome year. And I mean, you know, what
do you have Whenever you have a surprising element of
your team, bolster it and make it even better and
give yourself even more of an opportunity to succeed next year.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
No, you can't bolster enough, Like I said, can't be
enough protection for a guy, for a kid. I say,
kid is a guy. I mean, he's one of the
best quarterbacks in the league already. You cannot put enough
good guys in front of him, rotate them, whatever you
want to call it. I just I want to protect
this kid at all costs, so to speak. And I'm

(01:36:16):
hoping that that's exactly what happens for Nick Cassario and
his staff moving forward. And you know again, you keep
him up right, you keep that jersey clean, good things
are gonna happen. He's proven that when he's flushed out
he can still make things happen. But I'd rather not
have CJ. Stroud running for his life. I'm just funny
that way. So we'll see if that's what the Texans
continue to do. And we'll get to some other news

(01:36:37):
and notes of an NFL variety when we come back
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Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Eighteen. Rolls along here on Sports Talk seven ninety Monday
edition of the program wex Out Today, Back tomorrow for
the remainder of the week. Dan Matthews sitting in. Hello,
Dan Matthews perusing the twitters.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Brian McTaggart with a nice little note right here that
Joe Aspota meeting with the media right now and his tweet.
Kyle Tucker did a bunch of stuff in the outfield
today in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Luis Garcia remains an throw.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
One of those not surprising at all and one of
those mildly positively surprising.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
Well, yeah, I mean because I think, if nothing else,
we've kind of gotten to a little bit of an
impasse right here with Tucker where it's like, all right,
like when's he gonna start running, Like when's he going
to start doing things that actually would make you believe
huh Hey, we can send them to Sugarland or to
Corpus CHRISTI here pretty soon, and once we do that,
then maybe a week later we could see him back
with the major league club.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
By the way, that's the most if you know Brian
McTaggart at all, personally, and I'm assuming most of the
people listening don't. The cry kid does well. He learned um.
But just knowing Brian, I love that tweet because he
tweets his personality better than, if not the best, out

(01:38:51):
of anybody in the media here in Houston.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
It's just kind of like self effacing almost right, Like
he doesn't take himself that seriously like you appreciate Chandler.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
It's it's similar, but Chandler and we affectionately refer to
him as the most bitter twenty five year old we
all know.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
Oh Chandler suffers no fools now, and he has no
patience for any of your shenanigans.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
And he will try that. He will let you know
he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
He leans and he does not like nothing you can
say or do on social media will bother him in
the least.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
He's kind of intimidating too, Like you know, he's an
LSU guy. I love LSU, so you know, you think
like there'd be enough there, But it's also too where
I'm like, I don't want to draw the ire of
this guy, like I don't, So I tried lightly, Hey buddy,
how you doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
To see you all right?

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
I just say this because this Brian McTaggart tweet aspot
has said Kyle Tucker did a bunch of stuff on
the outfield today in Houston. If that was just the
only part of the tweet, that would be good enough
for me as to what I'm talking about this on
brandness of this tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
He did a bunch of stuff, a couple of things here.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
First of all, if that's what Brian make taggart tweeted,
that's exactly how Joe a spot to put it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Sure, he did a bunch of stuff, What does that mean?
What did he do?

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Like Tiffany, one of our best listeners responded, huh, what
does that even mean? Exactly? That's probably in part what
Brian was thinking. But it's also though too.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
I mean, you know, let's be honest here with ourselves
and everyone, which hopefully we always are. The Astros do
this to themselves like that's kind of like the frustration
that I think the fan base has with the Kyle
Tucker situation is because we've been, you know, doing this
entire song and dance for the last couple of years.
Last year it was Lance McCullers and it was Michael

(01:40:37):
Brantley where you're like, hey, all right, you know it
sounds good, sounds like they're gonna turn their shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
What Yeah, Like, how did we even get there?

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
By the way, beginning of June not a good time
for two of the mainstays in this era of Astro's dominance.
You haven't seen Kyle Tucker and you haven't seen Justin
Verlander since early June. That's what it comes down. Sounds like,
at least though Verlander is on his way back. He
did the up and down live bullpen batting.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
Practice whatever you wanna call it, morning, and then he's
gonna throw another bullpen and it sounds like he's at
least trending towards we will be seeing him sometime next weekend,
either in Corpus or in sugar Land with the Space Cowboys,
and it sounds like he needs a couple of those,
so maybe the following weekend. That's when you look at
the starting rotation and you say, huh, number thirty five

(01:41:25):
on the lineup card, that's nice to see.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Nice to see.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
And our own Chris Gordy, I believe, is the one
that took the video of Justin Verlander doing that very
work yesterday morning, Hey guys, how you doing. The second
part of mc tagger's tweet is again so on brand.
Luis Garcia remains a no throw, just a total dad
joke that is is laced with fact obviously, and again

(01:41:51):
it's it's the gravy category, Lance mccollors, Luis Garcia, We're
gonna look at this, We're gonna look at Christian Hoveer
this way. Unfortunately next year, it's just the timing and
the injury itself of what we're dealing with. I just
hope that Kyle Tucker is able to round into form

(01:42:12):
to where he can contribute when this team needs him
the most, which is not next month, but actually the
month after that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
Well, I mean, because it's also too. I mean, you're
in dire straits right now with how bad the offense
has been. And it's not just one guy, it's not
just two guys. It's basically, my cousin, Vinny, the entire
store had the flu, Like this entire offense has the
flu right now, and it's evident in what we're seeing
on the field. I mean, you know, yesterday three hits,
all singles. Three, that's all they got. The entire game

(01:42:40):
and two of them came from one guy who should
not be hitting singles. You want to see if he's
got multiple hits. Oh, there's extra bases that are attached
to those hits.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Well yeah, I'm just me personally when it comes to,
you know, the astros and there, what's the best way
to put the forthcomingness of their injuries? Who is it
that I was reading yesterday? Is a member of the media,

(01:43:12):
is an ex employee of this station?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Oh? Interesting?

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
At what point do you admit, if you're the Astros,
that you either weren't forthcoming enough or you misdiagnosed Kyle
Tucker's And.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
I'll tell you what, you know, nobody thinks. It's one
of those scenarios that I'll try to clean up as
best I can. It's doing one thing in one hand
and wishing in the other, and see which one fills
up first. I know what you're talking about, because I
would say that probably your wishes will not be granted.
And I mean, look, far be it from me to
say that their strategy doesn't work, because well, clearly on

(01:43:50):
the baseball side of things, it absolutely has worked. Because
you see what the fruits of the labor are in
terms of the results on the field. But at the
same time though too, I mean it's annoying from our
perspective because I think, if nothing else, it can have
the propensity to create a situation for yourself. Like I
guarantee you, Joe Spot it probably comes away from being

(01:44:10):
asked about Kyle Tucker again and probably to somebody he
confides in and says, had to answer that question again.
It's kind of like, why do you keep putting him
in that situation? Is my question, I guess in a
roundabout way, I'm trying to get.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
To yeah, him and Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
Part of me. I had a conversation with somebody about
this that was like, you know, if for nothing else,
maybe take some of the heat off of Kyle Tucker.
Now you might not think he has heat on him,
and he may very well not in the grand scheme
of things. In other words, like we'll take, for example,
Kyle Tucker this season versus Lance McCullers junior for the

(01:44:49):
past better part of two years.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
That's the thing, though, I mean, at least you have
a sample size with Kyle Tucker. You've got nothing with
Lance well, and with Kyle Tucker, his reputation going into
this season, and big reason why a lot of people
think and still think he's going to get three hundred
plus million when the time comes is because, in large
part because of not only how good he is, but
because of how durable he's been. And that's the thing too,

(01:45:12):
is I mean, I'll bring up shelf life again because
that's what was so ridiculous when they started their run
without Kyle Tucker, where people were like, see, we don't
need him. I'm like, the hell you don't. And now
you're seeing exactly the hell you don't playing out and
you're very like, that's that's the the urgency of all
of this is you're like, God, like, we badly need
him back in this lineup right now, and it's increasingly

(01:45:34):
evident every single game they play.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
You know what, I think about a lot. I think
about this often. You see that on Twitter. I think
about how many times his name was attached in trade
rumors to maybe potential actual deals being made, and how
many times, either on the record or off the record,
we heard or it was reported that Jeff Luno was like,

(01:45:56):
he's absolutely one hundred percent off limits.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
And you see why, well.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
I mean, in the beginning, you didn't really get it
because I mean we saw him come up the twenty
nineteen World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Ye, the check swings, everything.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
He had a reputation of not coming through in the clutch,
all of those different types of things.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
But he quickly grew out of that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
And now you see the guy that hits a Grand
Slam in the World Series and you're like, oh, yeah,
he's that guy. And then somebody that he gets on base.
Oh he just stole second, that's nice. Oh he just
threw somebody out at home, that's even more nice. Like
those are things that you're missing right now. And you
don't just replicate those players like they come along. You
do everything you can to be able to keep them

(01:46:34):
and you want them in the lineup. And again, it's
incredibly painfully obvious that this team misses him in every
single way right now.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Yeah, and it can be contagious hitting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
We all know that. I don't know if just having
him in the lineup would just automatically cure all ills,
because again, he comes back his timing and all of
the stuff that made him such a dominant player and
made him honestly, I mean, he was in if not
the end MVP conversation. He was definitely at the upper
echelon of all of the you know, main stay hitting numbers.

(01:47:07):
You would want to see a good or several good
players on your team approach. That's what's so painful about
Jordon right now. It's like, Okay, this is like Jordon light,
this is like diet Yordon twenty home runs in the
beginning of August. That's just not what we're used to.

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
But then that's the problem, though, is because you're expecting
so much more out of Jordon, which frankly he's capable of.
He's capable of being able to fulfill that request, but
it's also too at the same time. I mean, not
having Kyle Tucker in this lineup puts even more pressure
on him, more on Bregmant, more on al Tuve, And
then it's also too The even worst trickle down effect

(01:47:43):
is trying to get Jeremy Pania to not swing over
sliders that are about six inches off the outside corner.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Before Alex Bregman hit that walk off against the Dodgers,
you saw one of the least competitive at bats that
you'll see from Jose al Tuve. Unfortunately, it's kind of
his mo over the course of his career kind of
feast or famine. He will swing it dumb stuff and
sometimes good things will happen, sometimes bad things. But you're right,

(01:48:09):
Jeremy Paynia, particularly yesterday, back to some of the things
that was not only maddening about earlier this year, but
even last year. We will have some more to discuss
on the Astros. And someone that plays football is making
people upset. That's next, Houston. It's you're a home team
here anytime anywhere.

Speaker 7 (01:48:31):
I love your home team. We'll go, Rock'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
I probably make a lot of people mad when I
say this, fine, oh boy, won't be the first or
last time. I just think it's hilarious how mad people
get about certain things and then not add other things.
With regards to just a lot of situations in sports.
I will lose whatever is less than zero seconds of

(01:49:14):
sleep over the Chiefs paying Harrison Bucker, and I think
it's hilarious how many people are so upset about his
controversial remarks, but you didn't hear a peep from them
when X player was doing this over here, Why player
was doing It's just selective outrage at its finest. He's

(01:49:39):
a kicker, that's the first thing. I mean, yea, yeah,
then we're talking football. Yes, not to completely crap on
the kicking position, but I'm going to completely crap on
the kicking position if you choose to die on that hill.
Because again, I mean, I wonder like if if a

(01:50:00):
this guy said what he said, that people getting their
feelings about that play quarterback, maybe he was a top
ten quarterback, because I would think you could be able
to you could rank Harrison Bucker among the top ten
kickers in this league.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
You're giving the playbook right now of why and it
always cracks me up. Oh so, and so they're so boring. Yeah,
it's intentional. They're boring. They're boring because then they know
they don't have to deal with anybody being like, you know, oh,
I can't believe you said that, and twisting their words
and taking it out of context.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
I mean things of course we don't do in today's society. No,
we would never do that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:40):
So I mean there's a reason why certain guys just say,
you know what, I'll just go the canned responses and
if you think I'm boring, it's less stress.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
In my life. Well you remember last year when.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
CJ. Stroud went to the podium, No, no, no, this
was an on field interview, right, and he evoked the
name of Jesus Christ and it was edited out by
certain media outlets. Sure, and then other media outlets called
that out and it became this thing for like, you know,

(01:51:13):
a twenty four hour news cycle, because that's how this goes,
which is what this will be except for the you know,
like was it was Serena Williams that called him out
at the now nobody watches it award show.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
For yeah it was, Yeah, it was that said a
ward show.

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
I mean they tried to make fetch happen again for
like a night and it's like the only reason this
is in the news is because.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
He got paid.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
Well, it's also too, I mean it's not only that.
Then You've also got people out there who are upset
with a certain country music star, Morgan Wallen, wearing what
they thought was a butcker jersey, and it's like, guys,
it's his show, it's his performance. He's got all the
creative license to it. If he wants to go out
there wearing the shirt, that's fine, and if you don't
want to go, that's also fine. It kind of like

(01:52:01):
to me, it's almost like food choices, like say, you
know you don't like mayonnaise. I love mayonnaise on burgers.
You not liking mayonnaise does not do anything to me,
Like I'm just like, okay, fine, you eat yours the
way you want to eat it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
I'll eat mine the way I want to eat it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
Like it's like just across the board how people feel
like their worldview has to be what everybody else has.
And you're gonna live a really short life if that's
the case, because it's going to be a long one.
In terms of coming away disappointed, I just.

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
Loved when Ian Rappaport tweeted this deal came about and
the replies were just fantastic and not not from the
standpoint of what some of you are probably thinking, just
like just the snark, and I remember why I just
don't go back and forth with certain people on the
Twitter streets.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
If you will, I think I've effectively retired from that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
I don't know, so something will probably get me going,
but not this, not some kick getting an extension in
Kansas City. You have to also realize that not even
twenty percent of the population is on said social media.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
Well, see that's the problem. It's not real life. That's
the problem I have that I agree with. But then
people get fired over stuff they put on that not
real life. Only twenty percent of the entire world uses it,
And then I'm like, well that's disproportionate.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
If it's not real life, then why is someone losing
their job over it?

Speaker 4 (01:53:26):
Because that's the thing is there are people who honestly
look at it like almost with some sort of like
religious zeal to it, of like it is their religion,
and it's just it's an incredibly unhealthy way to live
your life. And it's incredibly hypocritical for me to say like, oh,
you know, don't be on social media when I'm on
social media all the time. But it's to your point,

(01:53:47):
like stuff that people would say to me used to
bother me, but then you talked about it, and if
I'm in an echo chamber, so be it. I don't care,
because it really comes down to a certain point of
are my bosses happy, is my fiance happy with me?
Does my family love me? That's really gonna be the
extent of the people that I care about hearing from.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Well, that's where the lines get blurred with me, because
sometimes maybe it's not my boss that's unhappy, but maybe
it's somebody who knows my boss that's unhappy about something
I did or said on on social media. And now
all of a sudden, it's like a thing. And I
just it's just fascinating to me because and I like
full disclosure, and like my boss, Brian Erickson, we've had

(01:54:27):
conversations about this in the past. We've had conversations about
it recently, and he has said to me at times,
it's not real life Twitter's not real life Twitter is
you know, twenty percent whatever of the real population. And
then I've had another conversation with him where it's like,
you know, be careful what you're saying because this person

(01:54:49):
over here might not be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
About that part.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
And so I'm and I've told him this, it's nothing
I haven't said, you know, off the air with him. Well,
what am I supposed to you know, which way am
I supposed to go? Does it depend on the issue?

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
Well, I mean, I mean we're in an opinion business,
right and it's also though, too, it's like, despite your
best efforts, no matter what you do, whenever you have
a strong opinion, strong takes, whenever you have those, you're
gonna have some people. And that's the beauty of this
business is because you're supposed to elicit a response. If
nobody cares and they're kind of like, man, I could
take them or leave them, then guess what, You're not

(01:55:19):
going to be in this business.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
For very long.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Yeah, you want to be you don't want to be boring.
You want to have not you know, a hot take,
you know, Harry, but you wanna you want to separate
yourself and have an opinion, but don't be a phony.

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
Is I think kind of what you're getting to is
because I mean, there are honestly things that I see
or I read or whatever it is, and people are like, oh,
that's an incredibly hot take. And you, even in this business,
get to know some people personally that I almost even
want to reach out to them and say, you don't
even believe this man, right, come on, like what are
we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Like like, you're not that guy, don't be that guy.
You don't have to be that guy. That's the key, right,
that last phrase right that you don't have to. And
that's that's kind of the.

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
Rap, because you're living for other people and you're not
living for yourself. And like, when you do that, it
doesn't matter what your best efforts are, you're not going
to end happily in that relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Like I mean, it's just like any relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
When you're living for your partner, then you're kind of
forgetting about who you are, and that's why the relationship
eventually comes to an end because again, you lose who
you are.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Clant, you sold out, you don't. You know, you're not
You're not authentic anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:56:33):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
You don't you're worried more about Yeah, I like, I
like my paychecks. This just in any one of you
would say the same thing. But you're not in the
business we're in. And that's where the difference comes to
that point right there, I mean, who gives a damn? Like, seriously,
who cares? Some people do?

Speaker 6 (01:56:51):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:56:52):
And look, I mean the fact that people care enough
about you in that way, I guess is sort of nice,
But isn't it more important why your kids?

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Well, I've said this before.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
It is a very very odd thing that I'm in
the business I'm in, and I'm very uncomfortable in front
of people I don't like. I don't consider myself to
be any sort of celebrity or even know like because
it's it's just it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
But that's not what the job dictates.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
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Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
The A team rolling along here on Sports Talk seven ninety,
final segment of the program.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Thanks again to Dan Matthews sitting in for what Fit
fun Man. I've enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:02):
I don't know why I just turned into the plumber
right there. It's been fun man, a really good time.
Make sure you stay tuned for me in TK a
little bit later on. There's so many things I could
say right now. Sometimes I wonder about well, I don't wonder.
Sometimes I wonder about what they're thinking on any given night,

(01:59:24):
depending on what's going on. Like for example, yesterday I
talked about how I shouldn't have even.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
Been upset judging on where I was watching the game
from and the environment that I was in, and the
fact that it's one out of one sixty two, and
yet I could turn that game off at any time,
I could walk away, and they couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
They had to be there for all of the pitches
in every inning. Well it's not only that, I mean
it's also too.

Speaker 4 (01:59:49):
I mean I think a lot of us are kind
of in this hostage situation that is the Astros not
hitting the baseball because I mean, let's be honest here,
we've all felt this throughout this seven plus year run
that this team has been on, and then it suddenly
is an ending right there where you're like, huh, where's
this been?

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
And like we're just like constantly waiting for that.

Speaker 4 (02:00:09):
And that's what, like I think is like the largest
kick to the midsection is that you're just like seemingly
it kind of becomes a point where you're kind of
looking at it and saying, this is on me, isn't it?
Like this is me thinking much more than you know
what they're capable of doing at this point.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
I hope it turns around no better time than the present,
not only because it's the Rangers, but because the Rangers
are behind you in the standings. Immediately, I should say also,
I mean Seattle's off tonight. We had those two games
that we had to make up in the standings. As
far as they've played two more, I believe. I believe

(02:00:51):
this is the first of those two, because I feel
like they've had the same off days ever since we
started tracking this type of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Yeah, they've pretty much been and concurrently on the same schedule.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
So this will be one of those nights where you
can scratch across and get a little bit of percentage
points going your favor. They, by the way, in case
you're wondering, will welcome in the Detroit Tigers to town
beginning tomorrow night, and Luis Castilla will be the starting

(02:01:21):
pitcher in the opener of that set. But man, I'll
tell you what one of the things, just outside of Houston,
it's been really disappointing just judging from what they've done.
And again, it's so crazy because there's still leaps and
bounds the class of their of their division. Dude, the

(02:01:45):
Philly suck right now. Well they're not just in a slut.
They suck. They lost six in a row before they
finally beat the Mariners to salvage that series yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:01:56):
Yeah, I mean it was also too where a lot
of their runs came in bunches and a lot of
home runs late in that game. I think it was
the eighth inning when they erupted for four runs and
I think it was three different home runs boom with
one of them, which, by the way, too with today's
world events for the individual player bets that are out there,
did you know that Nick Costianos tonight for the Phillies

(02:02:16):
is a plus seven hundred to hit a home run?

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
Is somebody gonna apologize when it happened?

Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
Well, it's not only apologies, Like you you are aware
of the Nick Costianos resume, right, like of like world
events happening. Yeah, and then sure enough he homers that
night and you're just kind of like, don't homer tonight.
He will be homering tonight. It's almost a guarantee.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
Last time the Phillies won a series was against the
very same team that they are now starting a series,
that would be the Dodgers. They swept them, including a
ten to one pounding in the opener of that series.
They've lost every single series since, including being swept by
the Yankees and including the Mariners taking two out of three.

(02:02:57):
I thought for sure, and again Mariners were at home,
So that's important because the Mariners are very good at
home and they're very crappy on the road. I thought
maybe the Phillies would do the Astros a solid, especially
since the Astros decided to mess around and lose two
out of three to the freaking Tampa Bay Rays.

Speaker 4 (02:03:14):
But not say, I mean it was pretty much the
complete opposite of what you and Wex said needed to
happen this weekend. There's still six games up on the race.
I mean, they also have not been playing well whatsoever.
And I mean kind of like we talked about earlier
with Kyle Tucker, it's the same deal now with Ronald
Acunia Junior.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
Like it's like, yeah, you were able to do it
that one year.

Speaker 4 (02:03:35):
You Usually when you lose a guy that hit forty
home runs at least and stole seventy bases, when they're
not in your lineup, it's kind of hard to replace
that guy.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
It's crazy too, because.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
The only division right now that doesn't have sixty or
more wins in first place is the Astros in the
Al West, and that's it's barely I mean, the Mariners
do have fifty nine wins to the Astros.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
Fifty seven.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
But as I mentioned, Astro is going to catch up
on the games played portion of the calendar tonight with
the Mariners off before beginning that series UH tomorrow night
against the Detroit Tigers. Astros, of course beginning their series
with the UH Texas Rangers coming up here tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:04:13):
Well, I mean it just kind of underscores what's you know,
all along hit the baseball, score runs, you're gonna win
the game. And that's what the Astros have been this
entire season. When they've done that, they've won. When they haven't,
it's not been a good proposition. And I mean they're
not playing great baseball right now. But the beauty of
it is you can't go back and fix what you've done,

(02:04:33):
but you can handle what's in front of you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
And that's what they have the chance to be able
to do. What we were talking about earlier. Broken furniture.

Speaker 3 (02:04:39):
By the way, I swear if Adulas Garcia goes off
from the seven hole because it's the Astros and whatnot,
it's just I can't you should you should beat up
on this Rangers team. I don't care that they're getting
healthier and they're they're actually not by the way. Yeah,
it's lost sures a so, which is like the least
surprising thing ever, shoulder fatigue, fifteen days see you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
At least they didn't say discomfort.

Speaker 4 (02:05:05):
Discomfort, contusion, those are words that they're kind of cuss
words around her way.

Speaker 3 (02:05:11):
Where is the strikeout? I know he's ahead of Justin right.
I wonder if Justin will then pass him. I know
it's fifteen days and that's probably about the time Justin's
coming back back. I will I just that's that's humorous
to me. Well, it's also too me. Just two hate
each other. I've heard that, which is kind of strange.
They will say they don't on you know, publicly, they're

(02:05:33):
just friends.

Speaker 2 (02:05:34):
I don't think they like each It's.

Speaker 4 (02:05:35):
Kind of like when Garrett Cole and Trevor Bauer were
teammates in college and everybody was like, hey, you're both
really good pictures.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Are y all friends?

Speaker 7 (02:05:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
Okay? Easy enough?

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
And I guarantee it never will say this publicly. I
guarantee you that it sticks in Justin Verlander's craw that
not once but twice he's faced off against a Max
Scherzer team and lost in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
It's not a good feeling for a ring.

Speaker 10 (02:06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:06:00):
I mean that's the other part of it as well.
And I mean with Justin, I think you kind of
look at this as you know, these last couple of months,
and it might be the last couple of months that
you pitch in Major League Baseball. I mean, I don't
know what he's going to do past this, but what
else does he really need to accomplish. He's kind of
done at all. The resume is there.

Speaker 3 (02:06:17):
I don't know that Justin Verlander's gonna be able to
pitch till he's forty five, like he was on record
as saying, I just don't know if the body will allow.
But it'll be interesting to see how this latest chapter
of these hated rivals goes down. I hope to be
telling you guys good morning tomorrow. I'll tell you that
I would love to see a videos time. It's more
than past time, all right. Thanks again to Dan Matthews

(02:06:39):
for filling in today for WEX. He will be back tomorrow.
Thanks to Trey for filling in producing, and thanks to
you guys for listening back at it with the usual
lineup tomorrow at three o'clock. Ross VII ou Well has
a live Carbock Brewery version of the On Deck Show
coming up as he gets you ready for Astro's V. Rangers,

(02:07:00):
Part one of this three game series. We will talk
to you guys again tomorrow at three o'clock

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