September 26, 2024 • 11 mins
Ryan "Hacker" Green from the Jacksonville Jaguars flagship station, 1010 XL joins The A-Team. He talks about the winless Jaguars coming to Houston this weekend, after getting embarassed by the Buffalo Bills on Monday Night Football. He talks about the chances that Doug Pederson could be on the hotseat. Plus, what is wrong with Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As promised from earlier in the show, first guest of
the day is in Jacksonville joining Adam and Adam here
on Sports Talk seven to ninety. That is Ryan Hacker
Green ten ten XL. There in Jacksonville. Talked a little
bit about the matchup this weekend between the Jaguars who
come to town to take on the Houston Texans, and Ryan,
we appreciate the time, and I'll hit you with this question,
(00:20):
which I believe that you know the answer to. What
does the number three hundred and five mean?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Three hundred and five is the number of days it's
been since Trevor Lawrence won a football game as the starter.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Ironically enough, it was in Houston last season.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Trevor Lawrence eight starts, eight losses since that day, including
all three this season. Our listeners here in Houston know
that I once thought he was going to be very good.
I gave him all the benefit of the doubt for
having to be the quarterback during the Urban Meyer era
and everything that went along with That team had no
chance to win because they were led by someone who's
(01:00):
not capable of coaching an NFL football team. But it's
been very easy for me to say no it's on
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Trevor Lawrence is not a good NFL quarterback. Proved otherwise.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Trevor, what have you seen over those last eight games,
these several seasons with Doug Peterson? Why are things where
they are with Trevor and the offense and the team?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, look, I think that's fair, and that's what the
Jaguars earned on Monday night when they went out and
flat out embarrassed themselves on national TV. I mean that
was a disgraceful performance. And believe me, all our shows
on ten ten XL all week long. I had to
stay up to do a twelve thirty to two thirty
in the morning postgame show after that nonsense. So I
was pretty fired up, as you can imagine. Why hasn't
(01:42):
it worked out? Well, there's a lot of reasons, and
I'll try to be brief. The offensive line hasn't been
very good. They can't run the ball, and because they
can't run the ball, obviously teams don't fear the run,
so they can put guys back in pass coverage. The
wide receivers have been okay. Kirk has been bad the
first two games. He was actually all right on Monday
(02:04):
Night football. Evan Ingram's injured. Their Pro Bowl tight end
is hurt and has missed of the last two games.
And Trevor just quite frankly, has lost a lot of
his confidence. I think when he's getting teed off on
by opposing d lines and there's some questions about the
play calling with Doug Peterson and Press Taylor, it is
becoming a soapopper here, guys. I mean that's the bottom line.
(02:25):
When he was forty seven to ten the fashion of
the Jaguars did on Monday night. We're looking for answers
to a lot of questions and we don't have a
lot of answers right now.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Humor me briefly, since you brought up the additional coverage
you had late that night after the game, you had
a former player Leon Searsly and a former coach, Dave Campbo,
both in the NFL at this level with you. What
were their thoughts on what they saw that night and
in general for this one and three football team.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, Leon, I think he used the term disgraceful. It
was an embarrassment. I mean, all the verbigs you would imagine.
Coach Campo tries to be a little more Stipil than
Leon and I were, but at one in the morning
we kind of teed off, so we really didn't care.
But the coach just said, look, it looks like a
team that's lost, a team that has no direction.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And there are questions about Doug Peterson.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now, I mean, the bottom line is they've lost what
eight out of nine going back to last season. Doug
Peterson is an under five hundred coach now in forty
regular season games here in Jacksonville. It is not good,
and that's an understatement. There were expectations coming in. I
think most of us picked Houston to win the division,
but I thought most of us also picked Jackson will
(03:32):
be second and be competitive and right now being one
of the three zero to three teams. After you extended
Trevor Lawrence, extended Joshua Hinz, Allen Tyson Campbell fully looking
got contract extensions as well.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
The owners fed up. The owner's angry.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
There's reports that the owner was the angriest shot Con
was the angriest he's been in his time as jack
War owner watching what he watched on Monday night. So
clearly the hot seat talk has really been raped.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Shot it up here in Jacksonville this week when it
comes to Dug Peterson.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
We're talking to Ryan Hacker Green of ten ten XL
Radio in Jacksonville, and yeah, I mean, I can imagine
because we kind of here in Houston we went through
not the same scenario because Deshaun Watson wanting to be
out of Houston and then everything else that came from
a legal standpoint that just right on the heels of that.
(04:23):
It was unlike anything I've ever seen anywhere. But you know,
when a quarterback, I don't want to say lose his
favor because I don't know if that's happened in Jacksonville yet,
but I.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Was talking with WEX about this just earlier this week.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
He was the latest once in a generation guy at
the top of the draft, and you had every reason
to believe early on he would be that guy. Is
it is it worse obviously because of the contract they
just gave and how much of that is similar to
what might be going on in Dallas, where you know
the alternative is to basically blow it up, so you
(04:56):
either have to pay the guy who might not be
the guy, or go that route.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Do you say that applies in Jacksonville?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I think a couple of things, Adam, when it
comes to Trevor Lawrence. Number one, he's not as bad
as he's looked the first three games. That goes back
to what I said about his confidence. I also think,
you know, you brought up the contract. That's a lot
to live up to, man, fifty five million dollars a year.
I think he's out there pressing a little bit. You know,
we've watched the all twenty two of the last three games.
(05:24):
He's trying to do things that, quite frankly, he shouldn't
be doing. He's not taking the eight yard sure thing,
and you know, the down and out on the sideline,
He's trying to go the twenty five yard you know,
go route. He's airmail in the ball. Brian Thomas Junior
was wide open on that interception that DeMar Hamlin had
Monday night.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's a terrible throw. There's no defense for that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But that's also a throw that Trevor makes ninety nine
percent of the time. So I know what it looks
like now is absolute garbage. And I get that Trevor
is better than what he's shown the last three games.
Having said that, the generational talk that to me was
nonsense from the beginning. There's one generational guy, and he
resides in Kansas City, and until somebody beats him. I
(06:04):
don't want to talk about any other current quarterback being
generational because Mahomes is the only one. I still think
Trevor potentially could be very good, but I do think
he is trying to live up to that contract.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There's a confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Issue potentially, there's an issue with the play calling between
oc Press Taylor and head coach Doug Peterson. Again, a
lot more questions than we have answers, but they're saying
all the right things. This week, I'll be very interested
to see, Look, if they're ever going to have our
backs against the wall, if they're ever going to have
a look yourself in the mirror moment, it'll be this
Sunday in Houston, after getting flat out humiliated.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
On national television.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So I'm very curious to see how the fifty five
million dollar man, Trevor Lawrence responds to that criticism this
Sunday out there in Houston.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Well, it leads me to the next obvious question, because
while I think it's a little bit different since you
guys are in the division as the Texans, so maybe
that kind of shade your answer a little bit more
than would if it was just another market that's not
in the AFC South.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
What do you think of CJ. Stroud? And also that.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Needs to include the first three games of this season
where I don't think he's overwhelmed anybody from an expectation
coming into this season, especially standpoint, because we heard that
kind of talk. Well, this is a guy that could
be the closest thing to Mahomes. I agree with you
wholeheartedly that there's only one guy like that until there isn't.
But what do you think right now through three weeks
(07:28):
of the twenty twenty four NFL season of a CJ.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Stroud?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I know we hate Carolina for taking Bryce.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I can tell you that much. We talk about
that all the time. Carolina is on our naughty list,
no question about it. No, Cj'stroud is a good player, man.
I mean he came in here his rookie year. I
think it was Week three last year. And aside from
your two hundred and sixty pounds full back, we're turning
a kickoff for a touchdown, which was interesting. Stroud had
a great game in beating Jacksonville, and look Trevor repaid
(07:56):
the favor out there in Houston when the.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Field goal hit the crossbar. Last year, you see, that
was Trevor's.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Last win as the starting quarterback of the Jaguars. But
I think this CJ. Stroud Trevor Lawrence rivalry could be
a good one for years to come. Now, what Houston
has done is they went out and they got a
Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They went out and they got it Joe Mixon.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Jacksonville got Christian Kirk. Okay, that's all right. Gabe Davis, Okay,
he's not Stefan Diggs. I do think though, Brian Thomas
Junior is a guy that not a lot of people
were talking about. Because the Jaguars are zero and three.
He and Maliite Neighbors are the only two rookie wide receivers.
I believe to have at least forty five yards receiving
(08:35):
in each of the first three games. Brian Thomas Junior
is going to be a stud and I think a year,
probably next year at the latest, he will be quote
unquote wide receiver one here in Jacksonville. Gave Davis will
be kind of the second guy, and I'm not sure
how much longer. Kirk's going to be here following this season,
But you need the guy, right C. J. Stroud has
Nico Collins and now he has Stefon Diggs. Trevor needs
(08:57):
that guy, and I think Jacksonville has finally got.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Him that guy with Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Ryan, to a lesser degree, I think people here, myself included,
weren't real excited about how Jacksonville manipulated the twenty twenty
four draft to get assets and then also be able
to draft Brian Thomas Junior. I totally agree and think
he may even be a wide receiver one sooner than that,
just because of the competition at the position. I just
think he is a bigger, better talent than that. Just
(09:23):
real briefly here about a minute on the other side
of the football, because as much as Trevor Lawrence and
the offense clearly took a while to get anything going
against Buffalo, they also were giving up touchdowns every single
time the Bills had the football their opponents. And that's
a Deshaun Watson led team and a two A lead team,
and now Josh Allen led team.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Are there.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Season statistics a little skewed because of what Allen did
is this a team that you can throw the ball
against with relative ease, which is kind of what the
numbers suggest.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I mean, they held a healthy Miami team in Week
one to twenty points in Miami. The Cleveland only scored
one touchdown on them in a and eighteen points.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The rest were field goals.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I mean the defense was decent up until night, and
Monday night was a flipping disaster. Again, a lot more
questions than answers, because we thought the defense was pretty
good the first two games. They had lost those games
because of the ineptitude of the offense. Obviously that was
completely out the door on Monday with what Josh Allen did.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And the defense has some injury problems.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Tyson Campbell has been out Fullia Lucan's going to miss
this game potentially, Devin Lloyd maybe in jeopardy because he
missed practice today with a knee. So injuries are starting
to pile up. But no, I mean the defense has
been better than the offense. I do think it is
skewed because of the Buffalo game, because again Miami and Cleveland,
the defense performed a lot better in those two contests.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Great stuff, Ryan, We really appreciate the time. I personally
owe you one and I'll let you know on that
here shortly, but we really appreciate the time joining us here.
It's really good stuff you have there, both on the
air as you mentioned after dark and even covering a
coach Napier's team, which has also been kind of an
interesting way to do things. But we certainly appreciate you
joining us this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Hey fellaws, anytime.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Take care of Ryan Hacker Green right there from ten
ten XL in Jacksonville, Jaggs, Texans. Remember last time they met,
The Jaguars did beat them when matt Amandola's field goal
came up short from fifty for shame yards
As promised from earlier in the show, first guest of
the day is in Jacksonville joining Adam and Adam here
on Sports Talk seven to ninety. That is Ryan Hacker
Green ten ten XL. There in Jacksonville. Talked a little
bit about the matchup this weekend between the Jaguars who
come to town to take on the Houston Texans, and Ryan,
we appreciate the time, and I'll hit you with this question,
(00:20):
which I believe that you know the answer to. What
does the number three hundred and five mean?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Three hundred and five is the number of days it's
been since Trevor Lawrence won a football game as the starter.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Ironically enough, it was in Houston last season.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Trevor Lawrence eight starts, eight losses since that day, including
all three this season. Our listeners here in Houston know
that I once thought he was going to be very good.
I gave him all the benefit of the doubt for
having to be the quarterback during the Urban Meyer era
and everything that went along with That team had no
chance to win because they were led by someone who's
(01:00):
not capable of coaching an NFL football team. But it's
been very easy for me to say no it's on
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Trevor Lawrence is not a good NFL quarterback. Proved otherwise.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Trevor, what have you seen over those last eight games,
these several seasons with Doug Peterson? Why are things where
they are with Trevor and the offense and the team?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, look, I think that's fair, and that's what the
Jaguars earned on Monday night when they went out and
flat out embarrassed themselves on national TV. I mean that
was a disgraceful performance. And believe me, all our shows
on ten ten XL all week long. I had to
stay up to do a twelve thirty to two thirty
in the morning postgame show after that nonsense. So I
was pretty fired up, as you can imagine. Why hasn't
(01:42):
it worked out? Well, there's a lot of reasons, and
I'll try to be brief. The offensive line hasn't been
very good. They can't run the ball, and because they
can't run the ball, obviously teams don't fear the run,
so they can put guys back in pass coverage. The
wide receivers have been okay. Kirk has been bad the
first two games. He was actually all right on Monday
(02:04):
Night football. Evan Ingram's injured. Their Pro Bowl tight end
is hurt and has missed of the last two games.
And Trevor just quite frankly, has lost a lot of
his confidence. I think when he's getting teed off on
by opposing d lines and there's some questions about the
play calling with Doug Peterson and Press Taylor, it is
becoming a soapopper here, guys. I mean that's the bottom line.
(02:25):
When he was forty seven to ten the fashion of
the Jaguars did on Monday night. We're looking for answers
to a lot of questions and we don't have a
lot of answers right now.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Humor me briefly, since you brought up the additional coverage
you had late that night after the game, you had
a former player Leon Searsly and a former coach, Dave Campbo,
both in the NFL at this level with you. What
were their thoughts on what they saw that night and
in general for this one and three football team.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, Leon, I think he used the term disgraceful. It
was an embarrassment. I mean, all the verbigs you would imagine.
Coach Campo tries to be a little more Stipil than
Leon and I were, but at one in the morning
we kind of teed off, so we really didn't care.
But the coach just said, look, it looks like a
team that's lost, a team that has no direction.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And there are questions about Doug Peterson.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now, I mean, the bottom line is they've lost what
eight out of nine going back to last season. Doug
Peterson is an under five hundred coach now in forty
regular season games here in Jacksonville. It is not good,
and that's an understatement. There were expectations coming in. I
think most of us picked Houston to win the division,
but I thought most of us also picked Jackson will
(03:32):
be second and be competitive and right now being one
of the three zero to three teams. After you extended
Trevor Lawrence, extended Joshua Hinz, Allen Tyson Campbell fully looking
got contract extensions as well.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
The owners fed up. The owner's angry.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
There's reports that the owner was the angriest shot Con
was the angriest he's been in his time as jack
War owner watching what he watched on Monday night. So
clearly the hot seat talk has really been raped.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Shot it up here in Jacksonville this week when it
comes to Dug Peterson.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
We're talking to Ryan Hacker Green of ten ten XL
Radio in Jacksonville, and yeah, I mean, I can imagine
because we kind of here in Houston we went through
not the same scenario because Deshaun Watson wanting to be
out of Houston and then everything else that came from
a legal standpoint that just right on the heels of that.
(04:23):
It was unlike anything I've ever seen anywhere. But you know,
when a quarterback, I don't want to say lose his
favor because I don't know if that's happened in Jacksonville yet,
but I.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Was talking with WEX about this just earlier this week.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
He was the latest once in a generation guy at
the top of the draft, and you had every reason
to believe early on he would be that guy. Is
it is it worse obviously because of the contract they
just gave and how much of that is similar to
what might be going on in Dallas, where you know
the alternative is to basically blow it up, so you
(04:56):
either have to pay the guy who might not be
the guy, or go that route.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Do you say that applies in Jacksonville?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I think a couple of things, Adam, when it
comes to Trevor Lawrence. Number one, he's not as bad
as he's looked the first three games. That goes back
to what I said about his confidence. I also think,
you know, you brought up the contract. That's a lot
to live up to, man, fifty five million dollars a year.
I think he's out there pressing a little bit. You know,
we've watched the all twenty two of the last three games.
(05:24):
He's trying to do things that, quite frankly, he shouldn't
be doing. He's not taking the eight yard sure thing,
and you know, the down and out on the sideline,
He's trying to go the twenty five yard you know,
go route. He's airmail in the ball. Brian Thomas Junior
was wide open on that interception that DeMar Hamlin had
Monday night.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's a terrible throw. There's no defense for that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But that's also a throw that Trevor makes ninety nine
percent of the time. So I know what it looks
like now is absolute garbage. And I get that Trevor
is better than what he's shown the last three games.
Having said that, the generational talk that to me was
nonsense from the beginning. There's one generational guy, and he
resides in Kansas City, and until somebody beats him. I
(06:04):
don't want to talk about any other current quarterback being
generational because Mahomes is the only one. I still think
Trevor potentially could be very good, but I do think
he is trying to live up to that contract.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There's a confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Issue potentially, there's an issue with the play calling between
oc Press Taylor and head coach Doug Peterson. Again, a
lot more questions than we have answers, but they're saying
all the right things. This week, I'll be very interested
to see, Look, if they're ever going to have our
backs against the wall, if they're ever going to have
a look yourself in the mirror moment, it'll be this
Sunday in Houston, after getting flat out humiliated.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
On national television.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So I'm very curious to see how the fifty five
million dollar man, Trevor Lawrence responds to that criticism this
Sunday out there in Houston.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Well, it leads me to the next obvious question, because
while I think it's a little bit different since you
guys are in the division as the Texans, so maybe
that kind of shade your answer a little bit more
than would if it was just another market that's not
in the AFC South.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
What do you think of CJ. Stroud? And also that.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Needs to include the first three games of this season
where I don't think he's overwhelmed anybody from an expectation
coming into this season, especially standpoint, because we heard that
kind of talk. Well, this is a guy that could
be the closest thing to Mahomes. I agree with you
wholeheartedly that there's only one guy like that until there isn't.
But what do you think right now through three weeks
(07:28):
of the twenty twenty four NFL season of a CJ.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Stroud?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I know we hate Carolina for taking Bryce.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I can tell you that much. We talk about
that all the time. Carolina is on our naughty list,
no question about it. No, Cj'stroud is a good player, man.
I mean he came in here his rookie year. I
think it was Week three last year. And aside from
your two hundred and sixty pounds full back, we're turning
a kickoff for a touchdown, which was interesting. Stroud had
a great game in beating Jacksonville, and look Trevor repaid
(07:56):
the favor out there in Houston when the.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Field goal hit the crossbar. Last year, you see, that
was Trevor's.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Last win as the starting quarterback of the Jaguars. But
I think this CJ. Stroud Trevor Lawrence rivalry could be
a good one for years to come. Now, what Houston
has done is they went out and they got a
Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They went out and they got it Joe Mixon.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Jacksonville got Christian Kirk. Okay, that's all right. Gabe Davis, Okay,
he's not Stefan Diggs. I do think though, Brian Thomas
Junior is a guy that not a lot of people
were talking about. Because the Jaguars are zero and three.
He and Maliite Neighbors are the only two rookie wide receivers.
I believe to have at least forty five yards receiving
(08:35):
in each of the first three games. Brian Thomas Junior
is going to be a stud and I think a year,
probably next year at the latest, he will be quote
unquote wide receiver one here in Jacksonville. Gave Davis will
be kind of the second guy, and I'm not sure
how much longer. Kirk's going to be here following this season,
But you need the guy, right C. J. Stroud has
Nico Collins and now he has Stefon Diggs. Trevor needs
(08:57):
that guy, and I think Jacksonville has finally got.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Him that guy with Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Ryan, to a lesser degree, I think people here, myself included,
weren't real excited about how Jacksonville manipulated the twenty twenty
four draft to get assets and then also be able
to draft Brian Thomas Junior. I totally agree and think
he may even be a wide receiver one sooner than that,
just because of the competition at the position. I just
think he is a bigger, better talent than that. Just
(09:23):
real briefly here about a minute on the other side
of the football, because as much as Trevor Lawrence and
the offense clearly took a while to get anything going
against Buffalo, they also were giving up touchdowns every single
time the Bills had the football their opponents. And that's
a Deshaun Watson led team and a two A lead team,
and now Josh Allen led team.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Are there.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Season statistics a little skewed because of what Allen did
is this a team that you can throw the ball
against with relative ease, which is kind of what the
numbers suggest.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I mean, they held a healthy Miami team in Week
one to twenty points in Miami. The Cleveland only scored
one touchdown on them in a and eighteen points.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The rest were field goals.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I mean the defense was decent up until night, and
Monday night was a flipping disaster. Again, a lot more
questions than answers, because we thought the defense was pretty
good the first two games. They had lost those games
because of the ineptitude of the offense. Obviously that was
completely out the door on Monday with what Josh Allen did.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And the defense has some injury problems.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Tyson Campbell has been out Fullia Lucan's going to miss
this game potentially, Devin Lloyd maybe in jeopardy because he
missed practice today with a knee. So injuries are starting
to pile up. But no, I mean the defense has
been better than the offense. I do think it is
skewed because of the Buffalo game, because again Miami and Cleveland,
the defense performed a lot better in those two contests.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Great stuff, Ryan, We really appreciate the time. I personally
owe you one and I'll let you know on that
here shortly, but we really appreciate the time joining us here.
It's really good stuff you have there, both on the
air as you mentioned after dark and even covering a
coach Napier's team, which has also been kind of an
interesting way to do things. But we certainly appreciate you
joining us this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Hey fellaws, anytime.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Take care of Ryan Hacker Green right there from ten
ten XL in Jacksonville, Jaggs, Texans. Remember last time they met,
The Jaguars did beat them when matt Amandola's field goal
came up short from fifty for shame yards
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