October 4, 2024 • 11 mins
Jeremy White from Jeremy and Joe (morning) Show on WGR (Bills Flagship Station) in Buffalo joins The A-Team. He talks about what this Bills offense looks like without Stefon Diggs. He puts to bed any indication that Diggs was ever a locker room cancer in Buffalo. Jeremy has strong feelings about how he thinks the Bills will look inside NRG Stadium on Sunday against the Texans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wex over there ac right here, both named Adam.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Just for the benefit of our guest here as we
start the second hour, Jeremy White, who handles the mornings
on wg R in.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Buffalo, the Bill's flagship station.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Conveniently enough, Texans and Bills this weekend here in Houston
at NRG Stadium. Jeremy, thanks for taking the time out
to chat with us about this one. And I said
at the beginning of the show, I feel like, if
you look at the schedule this week, top to bottom,
this is probably the most compelling matchup definitely in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Jarony's got a lot of implications for down the road,
right Like, I was looking at the Texans scheduled day
and the Chief schedule on the Ravens schedule, and those
four might be the four best teams in the AFC,
or expectations are, and they don't play each other. So
you know, for Bills fans who've been watching one Seed
Racist last couple week seasons, we've been tracking who they beat,
(00:53):
who they have time.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Breakers over, and they already even lost to Baltimore and we're.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Taking Tenant, you know, Texas the Texan Tier when North
Houston would be in a tiebreak over the Texans in
the One Sea Race. So you know, Bill stans end
a booking games like this as big games, but also
how it fits into the postseason, which of course will
be focused on.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, there's no question about it.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
We're gonna pop you off the air to see if
we can clean up the voice modulator you unfortunately put
on your phone unintentionally, and hopefully that will clear things
up for ourselves and our listeners. Jeremy White from Radio
there in Buffalo, the same thing we brought up as
the show began. Even though it sounds silly, they've been
to the postseason so many times it sounds less silly.
(01:34):
But yeah, this is a tiebreaker game five games into
the season, and Jeremy will welcome you back in here.
There's a quarterback matchup that I think the rest of
the country should be interested in between C. J. Stroud
and Josh Allen different stages of their careers, but certainly
the two most likely probably three along with Lamar Jackson.
If somebody is going to upend the Chiefs and Mahomes,
(01:55):
it's gonna be one of these three guys in the AFC.
If they can prevent them from again dominant. I was
looking back at Josh Allen's career. He's gone four straight
games to open this season without an interception. He's only
gone four straight games without an interception one other time
in his career, and that was all the way back
in twenty nineteen. What is it about this year's team,
this full season? I assume with Joe Brady's offense that
(02:18):
you think has had him clicking so well.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well, that's the thing. Like the passing game for Josh
Allen and these Bills is a shorter air yards passing
game with more yards after catch by design. This has
been like a two to three year transition from Brian
Davile as the offensive coordinator a few years back. Then
it goes to Ken Dorsey and it's a team to
wop yards and they were thirty second in the NFL
(02:42):
in yakyards. With Ken Dorsey in a full season one
they were the thirty first, and then Dorsey got a
second season, got fired halfway through. I kind of think
it's a bit of chasing something they didn't really have
to chase. But nevertheless, they are here now and now
they are a yackyard team. So what's different about Alan
the fewer interceptions, I guess because the ball isn't traveling
(03:03):
as far, so Safer throws easy button throws. You know,
he says zero interceptions through four games. I don't necessarily
think that's the best thing. You know, he's a guy
that throws down the field. He's a guy that can
rip it pretty much anywhere. And to this point in
his career, you know, you'll see the stats that he
leads the league in interceptions since his time in the league.
A lot of bill fans kind of don't care because
(03:25):
he's such an exciting player. He's such a good player
that take a bogey birdie golf. For sure, there's some bogies,
there's more birdies, and this guy is worth letting him
off the leash. Even he uses that phrase sometimes. So
they've got him under control and that can be good.
But there are gonna be times that they got a
lot of loose and hopefully those aren't too few and
far between them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Talking to Jeremy White of w g R in Buffalo,
Texans and Bills this Sunday here in Houston with a
new and kickoff. All right, So the elephant in the room,
I guess would be Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
One elephant in our room right in Houston, clearly did
a couple. I guess this is probably a two parter.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Did Were you amused at how much was made about
Stefan Diggs being a bad locker room guy by maybe
some members of the national media, or maybe you agree
with that. That's the first part of the question, And
the second part is where you did you think that
the Bills offense would drop off when that transaction was made?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And you know, are you surprised that it really hasn't.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, well, you won't find a bigger Digs fan than me, period.
Like I liked him before the Bills went and got him,
and when he forced his way out of Minnesota, as
it said, I was thrilled. He had great success here.
He was a huge part of what they did. I
am amused. Among other things, I some Bills fans like
(04:46):
to rewrite the history of his time here. He was dominant,
he was amazing, he was cool. Like I said, you
won't find a bigger fan. Things got tense, and you
know it pumps to find anybody to tell you really
what happened. Jeremy Fowler wrote a big piece on the
divorce between Digs and the Bills and quoted a bunch
of team sources and there wasn't any team source in
(05:06):
there saying that he demanded targets. My impression of Diggs
has always been he is manic about winning. He's insane
about wanting to win. And when they went from AFC
championship team to divisional round exit, divisional round exit, divisional
round exit, he started to ask questions, why are we
plateauing here? Why aren't we moving forward? And the Cincinnati
(05:28):
game two years ago, the Bills losing the playoffs by
seventeen at home to Cincinnati. That's the game that happens
in the DeMar Hamlin season. So it's kind of been
like the haze of post Hamlin and the team was
a shell of itself. And you could say that guys
weren't focused and guys really had trouble focusing, and that
is a reasonable case to make. But Diggs laser focused
on the sideline. Diggs is raising his arms at Allen
(05:51):
and we don't know what said. No one ever has
heard what was said. Was it get your head in
the game, was it what are we doing out here?
Was it wake up? The point is I'd ever had
a problem with that on any level. You know, you're
in a big game and someone's upset that you're losing.
That's what it's supposed to look like to me. So Digs,
to me, is a guy that's always been able to
go between the lines and put anything that's on the
(06:12):
outside to the side during the hambling game. Some of
the reporting on this from Tyler Dunn, who writes about
the Bills at length of other NFL stuff. He reported
that Diggs were one of the guys that when they
thought they were going to go out and have to
play again, he started to move people to do it.
So I've always got the impression that Digs is someone
that's very good at compartmentalizing and focusing everything there can
(06:33):
be on the field, and some players aren't good at that.
Some players can't take someone that intense all the time. So,
you know, the expiration date on the relationship between Digs
and the Bills came. I'm not happy about it. I
do think they will continue to miss them. I still
think they do miss him now, or a player of
his caliber. In this offense. You know, it's got a success,
(06:53):
it's got Josh Allen, but he's a great player. He's
one of the Bill's best players of all time. And
I am not one to rewrite history and act like
I'm glad he's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's an opinion.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
A lot of people here share all the things about
he wants to win again.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's new here.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
He's on a one year deal here, so granted there's
some differences, but I think a lot of people see
it here in Houston similarly for about who the person
is and the leader that he is, and how helpful
he's been. Curious from a how do you rationalize this
standpoint only in that they're still running the Brady offense
this year quite obviously not Tom Joe. When they made
that switch last year, it was their intention and it
(07:29):
played out to limit how much Digs was a focus
of their offense. He was a lot less of a focus.
He got the ball less, they targeted him less, they
did other things, and they won a bunch of football
games to close out the year. They won six out
of seven and basically stole the division. He can still play.
He's going to be a bigger part of the offense
here than he was in the late stages of their
(07:50):
offense there. Why did that I guess work for the
Bills last year, which they're continuing this year.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Part of the reason that it worked is that their
defense came. I mean, if you go look at the
games that they won, they did score a bunch of
points in a loss to Philadelphia, and then they got
some wins late in the season. They beat the Chiefs,
which was big. They beat Dallas by running the football
and that's great. I mean, everybody runs on Dallas. We've
seen that, right, and then they got to win over
San Diego on a last minute kick over easton six.
Like it's it's a little bit of rewriting that stretch
(08:20):
of Bill's football to say Joe Brady fixed things. What
happened was the Bill stopped turning the ball over and
they got their defense to play healthy. Matt mllono missed
most of the season last year. It took the Bills
a long time to find answers at linebacker and to
kind of bring things together defensively, because early in the
season their losses were a loss to Denver where they
had twelve men on the field for the game winning kick.
(08:41):
That's not on step On Diggs. The game they give
up game winning drives to mac Jones, not on Diggs.
An overtime kick return touchdown, punt return touchdown, not on Diggs.
So it was one of these things where all of
a sudden, the win loss, even though it's not related
to one wide receiver, became a talking point. So you know,
if the Bill use that as a bit of a
(09:01):
lever to pull, that's fine. They got out from under
his money. They are going to clear their caps. They're
going to be sixty two million dollars clear next year,
taken on the dead dead money. When you have Josh Allen,
you kind of have that buffer. You can have a
transition year and still win eleven games. So no matter what,
Josh Allen, it's gonna look good. Right now. At receiver,
(09:22):
it looks eh. They've got Khalil Shakir, who's a nice player.
He's broken out quite a bit. He is out for
this game, so that's bad news. They've got Dalton Kincaid,
a talented tight end that really has not yet broken
out the way that people thought they would pass that.
I mean, these are prayers. Curtis Samuel eight million dollars
a year they brought in and he has not really
(09:42):
been a big part of their offense just yet. We
might see some of that this week. Marquez Valdez, Scantling
and Mac Collins and Keon Coleman. These are receivers that
you're kind of hoping turn into something. But it's long
been my opinion that Bill's fans, these Bills fans that
rewrite the Bigs era, they don't really understand just how
good and how important he was. He's He's a star
(10:04):
with gravity that polls defenses and made everything easy for
people behind him. And the sin for the Bills during
the Digs era was they let it drift. Their receiver
room went from Diggs and Beasley and Emmanuel Sanders and
gave Davis to just Digs and Davis and then guys
that couldn't really get on the field. So I think
they do miss him. Their offense is still good, It's
(10:24):
always gonna be good with Josh Allen, but the worst
it should really ever be is like tenth. So if
it's eight, I don't necessarily think that's going great. I
think that's near the floor of what you should be.
We'll see where Joe Brady goes. I think he's got
some good ideas, some good concepts, but I am not thinking,
Oh Diggs is gone and they'll never miss them again.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
All right, ten seconds for you, Jeremy on the way
out the door, who is four and one?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
After the game, I think Houston because of the injuries. Really,
I mean, Shakira is big. Taylor rap is out, that's big.
At Oliver is out, that's big. The Bills ruled out
a bunch of guys today and they don't have anybod
who should here. So I Shakir not in the slot,
that's a big problem.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Agreed, We'll see what happens. Jeremy. We really appreciate the
time and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Thanks guys,
Wex over there ac right here, both named Adam.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Just for the benefit of our guest here as we
start the second hour, Jeremy White, who handles the mornings
on wg R in.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Buffalo, the Bill's flagship station.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Conveniently enough, Texans and Bills this weekend here in Houston
at NRG Stadium. Jeremy, thanks for taking the time out
to chat with us about this one. And I said
at the beginning of the show, I feel like, if
you look at the schedule this week, top to bottom,
this is probably the most compelling matchup definitely in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Jarony's got a lot of implications for down the road,
right Like, I was looking at the Texans scheduled day
and the Chief schedule on the Ravens schedule, and those
four might be the four best teams in the AFC,
or expectations are, and they don't play each other. So
you know, for Bills fans who've been watching one Seed
Racist last couple week seasons, we've been tracking who they beat,
(00:53):
who they have time.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Breakers over, and they already even lost to Baltimore and we're.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Taking Tenant, you know, Texas the Texan Tier when North
Houston would be in a tiebreak over the Texans in
the One Sea Race. So you know, Bill stans end
a booking games like this as big games, but also
how it fits into the postseason, which of course will
be focused on.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, there's no question about it.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
We're gonna pop you off the air to see if
we can clean up the voice modulator you unfortunately put
on your phone unintentionally, and hopefully that will clear things
up for ourselves and our listeners. Jeremy White from Radio
there in Buffalo, the same thing we brought up as
the show began. Even though it sounds silly, they've been
to the postseason so many times it sounds less silly.
(01:34):
But yeah, this is a tiebreaker game five games into
the season, and Jeremy will welcome you back in here.
There's a quarterback matchup that I think the rest of
the country should be interested in between C. J. Stroud
and Josh Allen different stages of their careers, but certainly
the two most likely probably three along with Lamar Jackson.
If somebody is going to upend the Chiefs and Mahomes,
(01:55):
it's gonna be one of these three guys in the AFC.
If they can prevent them from again dominant. I was
looking back at Josh Allen's career. He's gone four straight
games to open this season without an interception. He's only
gone four straight games without an interception one other time
in his career, and that was all the way back
in twenty nineteen. What is it about this year's team,
this full season? I assume with Joe Brady's offense that
(02:18):
you think has had him clicking so well.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well, that's the thing. Like the passing game for Josh
Allen and these Bills is a shorter air yards passing
game with more yards after catch by design. This has
been like a two to three year transition from Brian
Davile as the offensive coordinator a few years back. Then
it goes to Ken Dorsey and it's a team to
wop yards and they were thirty second in the NFL
(02:42):
in yakyards. With Ken Dorsey in a full season one
they were the thirty first, and then Dorsey got a
second season, got fired halfway through. I kind of think
it's a bit of chasing something they didn't really have
to chase. But nevertheless, they are here now and now
they are a yackyard team. So what's different about Alan
the fewer interceptions, I guess because the ball isn't traveling
(03:03):
as far, so Safer throws easy button throws. You know,
he says zero interceptions through four games. I don't necessarily
think that's the best thing. You know, he's a guy
that throws down the field. He's a guy that can
rip it pretty much anywhere. And to this point in
his career, you know, you'll see the stats that he
leads the league in interceptions since his time in the league.
A lot of bill fans kind of don't care because
(03:25):
he's such an exciting player. He's such a good player
that take a bogey birdie golf. For sure, there's some bogies,
there's more birdies, and this guy is worth letting him
off the leash. Even he uses that phrase sometimes. So
they've got him under control and that can be good.
But there are gonna be times that they got a
lot of loose and hopefully those aren't too few and
far between them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Talking to Jeremy White of w g R in Buffalo,
Texans and Bills this Sunday here in Houston with a
new and kickoff. All right, So the elephant in the room,
I guess would be Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
One elephant in our room right in Houston, clearly did
a couple. I guess this is probably a two parter.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Did Were you amused at how much was made about
Stefan Diggs being a bad locker room guy by maybe
some members of the national media, or maybe you agree
with that. That's the first part of the question, And
the second part is where you did you think that
the Bills offense would drop off when that transaction was made?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And you know, are you surprised that it really hasn't.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, well, you won't find a bigger Digs fan than me, period.
Like I liked him before the Bills went and got him,
and when he forced his way out of Minnesota, as
it said, I was thrilled. He had great success here.
He was a huge part of what they did. I
am amused. Among other things, I some Bills fans like
(04:46):
to rewrite the history of his time here. He was dominant,
he was amazing, he was cool. Like I said, you
won't find a bigger fan. Things got tense, and you
know it pumps to find anybody to tell you really
what happened. Jeremy Fowler wrote a big piece on the
divorce between Digs and the Bills and quoted a bunch
of team sources and there wasn't any team source in
(05:06):
there saying that he demanded targets. My impression of Diggs
has always been he is manic about winning. He's insane
about wanting to win. And when they went from AFC
championship team to divisional round exit, divisional round exit, divisional
round exit, he started to ask questions, why are we
plateauing here? Why aren't we moving forward? And the Cincinnati
(05:28):
game two years ago, the Bills losing the playoffs by
seventeen at home to Cincinnati. That's the game that happens
in the DeMar Hamlin season. So it's kind of been
like the haze of post Hamlin and the team was
a shell of itself. And you could say that guys
weren't focused and guys really had trouble focusing, and that
is a reasonable case to make. But Diggs laser focused
on the sideline. Diggs is raising his arms at Allen
(05:51):
and we don't know what said. No one ever has
heard what was said. Was it get your head in
the game, was it what are we doing out here?
Was it wake up? The point is I'd ever had
a problem with that on any level. You know, you're
in a big game and someone's upset that you're losing.
That's what it's supposed to look like to me. So Digs,
to me, is a guy that's always been able to
go between the lines and put anything that's on the
(06:12):
outside to the side during the hambling game. Some of
the reporting on this from Tyler Dunn, who writes about
the Bills at length of other NFL stuff. He reported
that Diggs were one of the guys that when they
thought they were going to go out and have to
play again, he started to move people to do it.
So I've always got the impression that Digs is someone
that's very good at compartmentalizing and focusing everything there can
(06:33):
be on the field, and some players aren't good at that.
Some players can't take someone that intense all the time. So,
you know, the expiration date on the relationship between Digs
and the Bills came. I'm not happy about it. I
do think they will continue to miss them. I still
think they do miss him now, or a player of
his caliber. In this offense. You know, it's got a success,
(06:53):
it's got Josh Allen, but he's a great player. He's
one of the Bill's best players of all time. And
I am not one to rewrite history and act like
I'm glad he's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's an opinion.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
A lot of people here share all the things about
he wants to win again.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's new here.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
He's on a one year deal here, so granted there's
some differences, but I think a lot of people see
it here in Houston similarly for about who the person
is and the leader that he is, and how helpful
he's been. Curious from a how do you rationalize this
standpoint only in that they're still running the Brady offense
this year quite obviously not Tom Joe. When they made
that switch last year, it was their intention and it
(07:29):
played out to limit how much Digs was a focus
of their offense. He was a lot less of a focus.
He got the ball less, they targeted him less, they
did other things, and they won a bunch of football
games to close out the year. They won six out
of seven and basically stole the division. He can still play.
He's going to be a bigger part of the offense
here than he was in the late stages of their
(07:50):
offense there. Why did that I guess work for the
Bills last year, which they're continuing this year.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Part of the reason that it worked is that their
defense came. I mean, if you go look at the
games that they won, they did score a bunch of
points in a loss to Philadelphia, and then they got
some wins late in the season. They beat the Chiefs,
which was big. They beat Dallas by running the football
and that's great. I mean, everybody runs on Dallas. We've
seen that, right, and then they got to win over
San Diego on a last minute kick over easton six.
Like it's it's a little bit of rewriting that stretch
(08:20):
of Bill's football to say Joe Brady fixed things. What
happened was the Bill stopped turning the ball over and
they got their defense to play healthy. Matt mllono missed
most of the season last year. It took the Bills
a long time to find answers at linebacker and to
kind of bring things together defensively, because early in the
season their losses were a loss to Denver where they
had twelve men on the field for the game winning kick.
(08:41):
That's not on step On Diggs. The game they give
up game winning drives to mac Jones, not on Diggs.
An overtime kick return touchdown, punt return touchdown, not on Diggs.
So it was one of these things where all of
a sudden, the win loss, even though it's not related
to one wide receiver, became a talking point. So you know,
if the Bill use that as a bit of a
(09:01):
lever to pull, that's fine. They got out from under
his money. They are going to clear their caps. They're
going to be sixty two million dollars clear next year,
taken on the dead dead money. When you have Josh Allen,
you kind of have that buffer. You can have a
transition year and still win eleven games. So no matter what,
Josh Allen, it's gonna look good. Right now. At receiver,
(09:22):
it looks eh. They've got Khalil Shakir, who's a nice player.
He's broken out quite a bit. He is out for
this game, so that's bad news. They've got Dalton Kincaid,
a talented tight end that really has not yet broken
out the way that people thought they would pass that.
I mean, these are prayers. Curtis Samuel eight million dollars
a year they brought in and he has not really
(09:42):
been a big part of their offense just yet. We
might see some of that this week. Marquez Valdez, Scantling
and Mac Collins and Keon Coleman. These are receivers that
you're kind of hoping turn into something. But it's long
been my opinion that Bill's fans, these Bills fans that
rewrite the Bigs era, they don't really understand just how
good and how important he was. He's He's a star
(10:04):
with gravity that polls defenses and made everything easy for
people behind him. And the sin for the Bills during
the Digs era was they let it drift. Their receiver
room went from Diggs and Beasley and Emmanuel Sanders and
gave Davis to just Digs and Davis and then guys
that couldn't really get on the field. So I think
they do miss him. Their offense is still good, It's
(10:24):
always gonna be good with Josh Allen, but the worst
it should really ever be is like tenth. So if
it's eight, I don't necessarily think that's going great. I
think that's near the floor of what you should be.
We'll see where Joe Brady goes. I think he's got
some good ideas, some good concepts, but I am not thinking,
Oh Diggs is gone and they'll never miss them again.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
All right, ten seconds for you, Jeremy on the way
out the door, who is four and one?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
After the game, I think Houston because of the injuries. Really,
I mean, Shakira is big. Taylor rap is out, that's big.
At Oliver is out, that's big. The Bills ruled out
a bunch of guys today and they don't have anybod
who should here. So I Shakir not in the slot,
that's a big problem.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Agreed, We'll see what happens. Jeremy. We really appreciate the
time and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Thanks guys,
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