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October 11, 2024 123 mins
Adam Wexler and Adam Clanton talk about what's going on in Houston sports and more on October 11th 2024.

  • Texans ready for the Patriots.
  • Sounds like Joe Mixon could be a go. 
  • Drake Maye debut time. 
  • Others need to step up for Nico Collins. 
  • Texas hasn't faced a tough test yet, according to Crhis Gordy.
  • Stone Cold Locks
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Teams.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A Team.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome into the Friday edition of the eighteen sinal cast
on Space City Home Network. Wex and AC along with
Dan here with you, and as expected, we've got a
lot of football to discuss. The NFL Weekend began last night.
The Texans football weekend will be Sunday at noon against
the New England Patriots on the road at the New

(00:39):
England Patriots welcoming Drake May to the NFL as a
starter and after three days of practice, Lucky for us,
we get to open the show with the latest on
who's going to help CJ. Stroud beat the New England
Patriots and who's not going to help CJ. Stroud help
them beat the New England Patriots. Although there are no surprises,

(01:00):
and since you guys are staunch listeners of the program,
you heard a lot of these best guesses yesterday and
they're all pretty much true. Kamari Lassner, Jimmy Ward, Robert
Woods are all out for Sunday's game. Be the first
miss game and heck, almost the first miss play for
Kamari Lassner and his rookie season, having been on the
field for all of the first five games and playing

(01:20):
very well. They've already played a game without Jimmy Ward,
and they'll now play a game without Robert Woods as
a special teamer or a part of their wide receiving core. Obviously,
Nico Collins is out this week, but not listed on
the injury report because he's not a part of the
roster since he was placed on IR listed as questionable
as expected. Practiced in yesterday, practiced today both on a

(01:44):
limited basis. That's Joe Mixon and he is listed as questionable.
I would guess only I guess that number twenty eight
will once again suit up for the Texans, as he
did in the first two games of the year. Derek
Barnett was a full participant in practice today, so all
the progress need to be seen likely has been seen.
Even though he's listed as questionable, he should be back

(02:05):
in the Texans rotation at defensive end. Kurt Highness, who
did not make a season debut a week ago after
being having his practice window opened, it listed questionable this
week again with the calf, and wouldn't be too surprised
if that also played into the game to see him
on the inactive list, and that's it with injury designations.
Damian Pierce no injury designation, full participant today. He will

(02:28):
make his presence known, hopefully in some form or fashion
in this game. But all of their running backs I
think will be playing. He along with Acres and Daria Goomble.
While you are healthy. The tackles that missed practice earlier
this week both practiced in full today, Titus Howard his hamstring,
Laramie Tunsel his ankle, and both are expected to start

(02:49):
in their normal spots. Kenyon Green also a full participant
after some practice time missed. So lot of good things
to say about the Texans injury situation for those that
are following the excellent reporters that we're practiced today. They
all noted that Mario Edwards Junior was not at practice today,
so it was a little curious, but listed as not
injury related a personal matter and he has no injury

(03:11):
designation attached.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Are very good.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
He will also be a part of the Texans making
Drake May's.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Day awful well. And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
If if Kamari Lassiter is not playing and you're still
able to do that. That's a very very good thing.
Like he's a rookie quarterback, but you still don't know
what you're in for. You have an idea, but you're
you're still questioning everything going into this thing. I'm not
saying if they were playing, say Jordan Love next week,
that automatically guys like Lassiter and Ward would be out there,

(03:42):
because it is. It does come down to the actual
injury itself. But as we know, sometimes these things are
exaggerated or.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
What I don't think they're exaggerating. Let's not have Kamari
Laster out there. You're familiar with who's behind him, right, Well, No,
that's and in that he's played as much as he
has exactly nobody's been behind him. Literally, nobody's been out
there for him because it has been necessary because A
he's been healthy and B he's been good. Good is
the is the main reserve corners have been just that

(04:10):
this year. They've been watching they play nothing but safeties
and the two corners. Yes, yes, they'll be fresh. There's
also a reason why they are reserves.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, he has been good.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
At one point, I don't remember if it was NFL
dot Com, but after the first quarter poll, he was
the front runner for the Defensive Rookie of the Year,
which would be fantastic because you're obviously putting him opposite
Derek Stingley Junior, who will be out there by the way,
that's a very good thing. But yeah, this defense getting
after Drake may has been a subplot, a storyline. You

(04:42):
heard us talk about it with a guest yesterday on
the New England side of things, and it's it's the
it's what they the Patriots, their fan base, whatever you
want to call it, fears the most when it comes
to this matchup. I can't remember who is it that's
on who is it that's on the other side of
their schedule this week? And then of course they played

(05:03):
a a I guess not so hot competition going in
sandwiching this Texans game and specifically this Texans defense, which
I still get Patriots.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, the Patriots just played the Dolphins. Prior to that,
they played the Niners. Well, when you say the Dolphins
go to play the Jaguars, when you say they just
play the Dolphins, that's not really I mean, I think
everybody out there knows the two is not a part
of the Dolphins right, So it was a low scoring
game with two quarterbacks who are not starting caliber players
at this time in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
And yet and again, there's a couple of things going
into this from a stone cold lock standpoint, which of
course will come up in the four o'clock hour, like
it does each and every Friday. I almost wanted to
double down on how confident I am at the size
of the workload for Joe Mixon now that he's only questionable.
And the over under on this game is one of

(05:55):
the lowest on the schedule this week, and I gotta
think that has way more to do with Drake May.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
But it also says, hey, even though CJ.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Stroud has passed for three hundred plus yards each of
the last two Sundays, we're not expecting them to just
blow up the scoreboard, even against the rookie quarterback.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, they haven't done it all year, so I don't
consider twenty nine points their season best.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
They blowing up the scoreboard, so I wouldn't expect that.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
And honestly, I'm not sure what Vegas thinks because there
wasn't a real change. I think if Jacoby Brissette was starting,
the number would be even lower. I mean it's it
didn't go down. Why because because he's awful? Well, no,
I know that, I mean I don't know how much,
how much more clearly over the last couple of days,
since I knew Ray would be there, And I've been

(06:39):
saying it all year, I understand why they did it.
But you're watching it play out. Hey, we're gonna play
the guy we don't care about. And it's a harsh
way for me to say it, but that's what they're showing.
He gets hit, we don't score whatever. We're protecting our
guy by knowing that we can't literally protect him on
game day, right, so we don't want him out there.
And now that you know, can we make it through
twelve games? Can we make it through ten games? I
think that's really all you're left to decide, And they

(07:02):
decide we can make it through twelve games because they
have no chance to outscore the other team. The only
way they can win is if the other team literally
basically doesn't score any points. They're averaging less than twelve
points a game the last four weeks. They've lost all
four of those games. The same quarterback. They have running
game issues more from personnel than ability, and that's one
note on their side that's definitely worth mentioning. We brought

(07:23):
it up throughout the week and even yesterday curiously because
we weren't sure what the situation would be. But Roandre
Stevenson clearly their best back, and I think Antonio Gibson
is a good reserve, but he's not playing. Stevenson is
out with the foot injury, so it will be Gibson
and others trying to help Drake May, both in pass
pro and giving him an outlet. I wouldn't be surprised

(07:44):
if Antonio Gibson was their leading receiver in terms of
catches on Sunday, coming out of the backfield and being
an outlet and being a valve. And the over under
I Drake may rushing yard is twenty six and a half.
I brought that up yesterday and I want to look
to see you. I'd mentioned he ran for over a
thousand yards when he was in college. He started thirty
games or played in thirty games, ran for twelve hundred

(08:06):
and nine yards, and just so people would know, the
guy drafted two spots in front of him. Caleb Williams
played thirty seven games of college football eleven and Ou
and the others. At SC he ran for just under
a thousand yards. Drake May is at least as capable
as pretty much any quarterback they've played this year of

(08:27):
making yards with his feet.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
And do you design a few plays where he does that?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Probably as long as you are running him to the
edges because you don't want to get him extra hits.
But he actually can be helpful because of his legs,
can be a threat because of his legs. You're facing
third and seven, Well, I don't think that's a given
that if you cover everybody on a pass play, he
can't go get the first down. Jacoby Brissett can't do that,
wasn't doing that and certainly wasn't going to start doing that.

(08:54):
So there is an element to what they bring with
the athlete that's now on the field for the Patriots,
and clearly with I think it goes without saying he
could throw the ball better. Can he be a better
passing NFL quarterback in his first ever start? That remains
to be seen. Does he have these skill set, attributes,
arm period to be better than Jacoby Brissett.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Of course he does, and as of right this second,
the site that we use for props and lines and
all that good stuff to come up with our stone
cold locks doesn't even have Joe Mixon listed.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
When it comes to rushing yards, they kept it very limited.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Neither team has any running backs listed in the over
under category, just the two quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Well, Antonio Gibson is now listed. Oh good, over forty
seven and a half under forty seven and a half.
That's I think that was. That's really low.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, I'm not sure who else they plan on handing
the ball to, but the Texans can be run on now.
Usually it's been quarterbacks, and that's why I keep bringing
it up. Remember the first two weeks of the year,
prior to Aaron Jones having over one hundred yards, DeAndre
Swift had thirty, Jonathan Taylor had forty eight. They've actually
lined up fairly well against the individual backs. And last

(10:04):
week the only reason the number was so low for Cook,
it wasn't really the Texans defense, it was the Bills
play caller on offense having Josh Allen throw the balls
often as he did on a horrific day. I still
can't figure it out five days later, why they didn't
run the ball more. I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I wonder though, like this site in particular, if even
by the end of the show, if a Texans running
back shows up, or if definitely by Sunday at noon,
there's something listed.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's too dangerous for them. Why bother like Joe Mixon,
I don't know, is he going to play ten steps?
He's going to play twenty? Piersackt week, so exactly everybody
that they could have out there on the field, they're
all if we are to believe Mixon is playing, they're
all healthy enough to suit up.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, and I think that's what brand. I'll bring this
up in the next segment. A question I have for
you about the Texans offensive attack on the whole, because
we obviously know that yeah, okay, Joe Mixon's likely going
to be out there, as will Damian Pierce. We also
know that Nico Collins is not going to be out there,
and so you could argue there's almost more questions about

(11:07):
the Texans offense going into this game as there are
because we only know this fun question.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I'll take the text inside having less.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Well, I mean, there's only one guy you're really questioning
when it comes to the Patriots offense, though, there's not.
I mean, they're not adding a whole bunch of guys
that you haven't seen in over a month. That kind
of thing is what I'm getting at. Yeah, it's the
biggest question for sure. I'm not disputing that.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
But st J.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Stroud's out there and that's the main reason to be optimistic.
So we will ask that question. I'll ask wex that
question when we come back here on the A Team
Sports Talk seven nineteen.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
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Speaker 4 (11:55):
I know you all are waiting with breath during the
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It is the A Team Sports Stock seven ninety Space
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and Patriots from New England. And if you have no
Nico Collins in the lineup, you have some semblance of

(12:18):
a running game, but you don't know what the workload's
gonna be, how it's gonna be divvied up, on and
on and on between Joe Mixon and Damian Pierce among others.
I know you mentioned yesterday a scenario where maybe Cam
Akers isn't playing in this game. You just don't know
until you know. But from a receiving standpoint, you're obviously
thinking about Stefan Diggs. You're thinking about Tank Dell whatever

(12:40):
percentage he's at right now, and then Dalton Schultz. But
who is the true outside of the tight end position? Like,
who's gonna be the other option from a receiving standpoint,
And it could your answer could be one of those
running backs. But who do you think Bobby Slowikan company
is drawing things up for, you know, in the event

(13:00):
that maybe those bigger name guys are a decoy.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Or well, they're definitely not a decoy on certain place.
I mean, it's just it's to me, it's Xavier Hutchinson.
There's not much thought that goes into it. He's the
next guy up. You saw that last week. You've probably
known that for from late last year. Different set of receivers,
clearly because there was no mixing out of the backfield
and there was no Stefan Diggs on the roster. But
that's the spot he held then and he still holds

(13:24):
that same spot now. He's capable of doing all the
things that they want their receivers to do in that role.
He can block, he can run, he can actually take
the ball out of the backfield, and obviously he can
just play the position from any of the spots they
want him to line up. I don't think it's gonna
make much of a difference, you know, Nico Collins production says,
obviously he's the best receiver you have.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
He's the best receiver in football.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Thus, if you want to slap wr one on him,
go right ahead. That's not really how their offense is.
It's not really how they're set up to function. Some
weeks it looks like that, and his numbers were always good,
but it's not like that's all that CJ's doing and
looking his way, so, oh my gosh, now he's not there,
What are you going to do? Just that's not the

(14:09):
way this offense is, and certainly not with the personnel
they still have at their disposal. You have a receiver
who's nothing but one hundred catch, you know, eleven hundred
yard machine. I think the one thousand yard threshold we
have been throwing out since we were babies might want
to get retired, considering we have seventeen games to play

(14:29):
every year. So saying on pace for a thousand yards.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Whoopee? Is it just twelve hundred.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's not a huge, huge number anymore. I mean, even me,
mister math, I don't really care what the new number is.
I'm just saying referring to someone as well, he had
a thousand yard season, thus he's really good. Great, how
many games did he miss? It's more about how many
yards per game do you have. It's the same thing
when you grade out these defenses, well, how many yards
did they give up per game? That's like the worst

(14:58):
way to grade out a defense that are there, and
especially when you separate it between running game and passing game.
Like Minnesota, for instance, they give up a billion yards
through the air, but they don't give up a billion
yards per play through the air because everyone's been throwing
the football against them all game long, every week for
five weeks. Why, because they're always behind because they can't
run the football and they're turning them over, so they

(15:20):
have to throw even more because they got to get
the ball back and they got It's pretty easy to
figure out if you just think about it a little bit.
Two weeks ago, there were fifteen targets for Nico and
it was a third consecutive game with ten or more targets,
and in each of those games, Diggs saw six twelve,
nine targets. That's roughly what I expect him to see

(15:42):
again in this game. Last week it was eight and
the majority of the game was played without Nico Collins.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Really no difference.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
He's seen at least targets, six targets and all five
games he's played for with CJ as a Texan. That's
not going to change. And again, I'm not expecting a
thirteen fourteen to fifteen target game for him, expecting Tank
Dell to have his first six catch game. I'm expecting
Tank Dell to pop for sixty five plus yards for
the first time this year. And Xavier Hutchinson probably puts

(16:10):
season best numbers out there. He had thirty one yards
on two catches a week ago. Kate Stover could do that.
They might even have three tight ends active for the
first time in a while since Rerevin Jordan went down
because Quatoriono is at least on the active roster, which
probably says something about the two tight ends on the
practice squad. Still not sure why you have two that
aren't ever active but for practice purposes when you only

(16:33):
had two other ones. I guess there's something there, but
it's more going to be a spreading the ball around.
And Christian Gonzales factors into this whole conversation. He is
an elite cornerback, and how the Patriots decide to utilize
him on this day without Nico Collins. I'm sure the
Texans offensive staff and CJ specifically will be well.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Aware of where he is. Do he takes away one
side of the field.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I don't think that will be the case because it's
unless he's chasing someone, which if I were the Patriots,
that's definitely not how I would play it because I
don't want to chase Steph Diggs all over the field
with Christian Gonzales because that means he's in the middle
of the field on underneath routes all day. Unless the
Texans unveil this brand new game plan for Diggs, that's
what he does for this team. Those are the routes

(17:17):
that he runs. Now he could turn some of those
into bigger plays, and his yak isn't awful. His acts
actually pretty good. It just hasn't We haven't seen a
ten yard pass go for forty. We haven't seen a
fifteen twenty yard pass go for fifty or sixty, and
maybe that's what happens this week. The guy most likely
do that is Tank, and you're not gonna put Gonzales
on him either. Texans do an awesome job, and they

(17:38):
do the same thing when Nico's out there, an absolutely
awesome job of moving their guys around. They play a
ton of three wide receiver sets. I think they should
still do that, and it just means Zavier Hutchinson's out
there a lot more. And they line them up all
over the place. Nico lines up with the slot, lines
up in the slot. Tank, they all do it and
it makes it very difficult on defense.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I think it's so painfully obvious who's going to be
the X factor in this game when it comes to
the passing, and I think Steph Diggs is gonna get his.
But I think this has all the makings of an
explosive day for Tank. Dell like blows that out of
the water. The number that you tossed out there was
so far as sixty two. I just it's not even

(18:20):
it's I don't even think it's necessarily just because Nico's out.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I just think that he's due a lot of ways
of looking at it.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
But yeah, if you've got if you've got a shut down,
lockdown or a little bit less than that corner, and
you're putting them up against Stefan Diggs most of the time,
I don't know. I just I think that all of
the signs point to Tank having a huge type day,
like the kinds of days that he was having with
regularity before he got hurt last season. It's I don't

(18:50):
think it's to say that he's been rusty, or they
haven't tried to get in the ball, or it's just
the way it's worked out, and a lot of these
games have been uneven to start the year anyways. But
this has like all the perfect recipe for everything that
we're talking about for Tank having an explosive afternoon.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Maybe he even is lined up all by himself awaiting
a punt as a punt returner, something he has been
practicing from the moment he became a Texan last offseason,
all through this offseason, all through camp, and even now
when they practice over the course of the week, they've
had to alternate different players back there. One because Simms
was active following his muff punt, they went with some

(19:30):
different guys. Last week as a punt returner and kick returner,
it was Robert Woods. JJ Taylor has been in that role.
It seems likely that JJ Taylor will not be elevated
for this game, and that all their other running backs
are healthy, so they actually are going to have to
do some things differently. If Dez King is a part
of your secondary, and he very well might be this week,
he's another option as a returner specifically to punts, but

(19:52):
I could definitely see.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I'm not against it.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm very concerned when they do it any team, but
I mean last night it's a reasonable example. I mean,
who's returning kickoffs for the forty nine ers, Deebo Samuel?
Is it that big of a deal? I mean, he's
from a physical standpoint, he's extremely that long ergic compared
to tank And maybe that's why you don't feel as bad.
But that's why I don't like return You're not as

(20:19):
likely and maybe the new kick return role, as dynamic
as they are, are a little bit different. How often
are you get unless they're hitting you illegally before the
balls come down and you wait for a fair catch
and they just blow through it. Anyway, those hits can
be vicious, The hits on the return itself aren't all
that often as vicious as what you'd normally get on.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
The reason why I'm so vehemently opposed to it is
not about the talent or who he is and the
regular confines of an offense. Deon Sanders did this for
the Cowboys. You think if something happened to him, they
would have been in a whole lot worse shape. Absolutely,
it's because of his build, and it's because of that injury,
and maybe that's not fair to him, but it happened,
and I can't unsee it.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
You know, I don't want this guy about where he
got hurt.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Doesn't have anything to do with anything you magically, doesn't
have anything to do with his size, doesn't have anything
to do with the play, doesn't clearly was not on
a return.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
It was a guy laying it on his leg.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, Now you can argue about whether or not that's
a place he should have been on that particular play,
but the plays designed for your wide receiver to do
something like that, it definitely was not designed. I think
that was. Well, here's the guy I've got to go get.
So that's where I've got to go, and he's a
team guy. Everybody on the field should be, and he was.
He just got caught up in eighty had eleven punt
returns a year ago. Dis King had the other eight.

(21:33):
And those are probably options one in one A that
Frank Ross is considering. As we sit here with no
Robert Woods and they are thin at wide out with
Collins on IR and Woods unavailable this week, he's out.
It's possible Steven Simms is active for this game for
this reason.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
It's funny because Woods and King were the two names
that came to mind. Woods obviously because he's not gonna
be out. That's why I asked that question, because he,
I think would have been the guy that you would
have said instead of Hutchinson if he was available for
this game. But I as far as returns, I thought
Desmond King was the first, second and third option I
thought they would put out there.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I don't know what they're gonna.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Do, Butte and I absolutely think he should be out
there before Tank Dell.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I don't know. I'm just I'm very protective of him.
He's slight. I can't yeah, I know he's a football player.
It's not it's just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I think he's a somewhat of a not a secret weapon,
but he's an X factor that I want out there
more often than not on offense.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
We'll continue to discuss next.

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Speaker 2 (22:59):
Just in case you were wondering, Texans fans and Jets
fans and Dolphins fans and everybody else in the NFL
fans and maybe most specifically Bills fans, don't worry. NFL
and the NFLPA have released a statement on how the
concussion Protocol was handled last week in the h right
around probably two forty forty five or so during the

(23:22):
Mitch Trubisky era here in twenty twenty four for the Bills.
UH they've reviewed the reports from the UNC that's the
unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant and booth Spotters not North Carolina, and
those reports confirmed that the steps required by the Concussion
Protocol were followed in the evaluation and clearance of JA
protocol has been jointly developed and is jointly administered greatly

(23:46):
appreciate everyone's work.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Here.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm ad libbing.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Basically, they're saying no, no, no, we can stop talking
about that. Everything's fine, He's fine. Josh Allen had about
one sentence worth of commentary on that during the week
when he met with the media, saying, look, I can't
handle anything other than I went in there and they
checked this out and I went back out on the field.
That's about all I've got to say about that. And
he will be available Monday night. When Todd Downing's New

(24:11):
York Jets offense revamped tries to keep pace with Josh
Allen and the Bills, I.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Would like to say that they are going to have
just a whale of a bounce back week, but I
like to give the Jets defense a little more credit
than that. Isn't this like when I'm trying to make
an analogy that's not completely too convoluted. But I just
think it's hilarious that the NFL investigated how the NFL

(24:39):
handled a concussion protocol of a big name quarterback in
the NFL determined that they did everything right on an
NFL sideline in an NFL game.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, who else is going to do it?

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Well?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I know.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
It's just there's certain situations like that that make me
laugh when I mean, there's no checks and balances for this,
and that's fine if you want to do it that way,
but don't expect us to take you completely seriously when
you say, oh yeah players health, Yeah, it's top priority.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It is top priority, as long as not the quarterback
of a close game and it's late.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
See there you go. I mean, you get it, You
get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, even what they did with him, I wouldn't I
shouldn't say anything because this is something we have seen before.
It happened with CJ last year, not in the Jets game,
in a game earlier in the year. And still the
worst part about how many of these are handled is
not how Josh Allen was handled, is not how CJ.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Stroud was handled.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's how two was handled, both in game and then
in between games and then after the next can cut.
It's been awful.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
This time.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
They've handled it as well as any other though. We're
just about ready for his return. He's got one more
game to miss officially because he was placed on ir
and they had their off week in the midst of
those four games, So five weeks. I have not seen
anything that suggests he will not be their starting quarterback
as soon as that period it ends, because all the

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actual concussion protocol steps will have already been completed, he
will have been cleared. They also are awful at quarterback,
and he's shown no resistance individually to not wanting to
be out there.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
And I think he'll be out there is immediately, don't you?
And I know you do.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Recall he had two high profile concussions. I hate to
even designate.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Them the same You had one, but he didn't. But
we haven't or you did.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, but I have to designate them that way because
of how they're covered and how they're the amount of
replays that we saw of them is a big part
of this, even though it's completely stupid to look at
it that way. So don't I have to. That's the
way the NFL does it. So I'm only going to
follow their leaders. Well, they smarter, I am smarter, but
I this is how they do it. And what did

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we say after each of them? We said the same
thing that we're saying right now, how can this guy
go back out there? We're gonna say it again because
it's gonna happen again.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, in this instance, I won't say, how can he
go back out there? I think they've done a much
better job this time. Too bad, it's after his third one.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Too bad.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
After we all know the next time he goes down
awkwardly and hits his head, he's gonna have another one.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
But all you're doing is personal. That's his choice.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
The doctors if they can't prevent him from being cleared,
because he's passed all the tests and the symptoms are
not present, and he's hopefully telling the truth about all
that stuff, and I imagine that he is. At some point,
your own personal health and lifelong health is something I
would think someone who's now guaranteed hundreds of million dollars
are going into your and your family's bank accounts, I

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would think that this time it was handled a little
bit more with some smarts. They didn't even wait to
see how he was doing. They said, that's dumb. The
smart thing to do is say you can't play, And
in the next five weeks you can't play, you're gonna
I'm sure, I would imagine, and we all hope you're
gonna clear concussion protocol. And I think as soon as

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the time opens up, they'll tell us the yeah, he
cleared it blank weeks ago or whatever it was, but
he could not go out there and do anything because
of what they did logistically by putting him on our
which is really the first smart thing I think that
they've done in hindsight with all this stuff. But we
knew present site, they just weren't handling it very well.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
And the thing is it doesn't have to be like
I think.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
It looks even worse because Tua is not slight, but
he's not Josh Allen. Okay, so he's way bigger than
people think, correct, And I wanted to kind of give
that caveat before I continue. But susceptible to concussion quarterbacks
that aren't Josh Allen, that aren't you know, Cam Newton,

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that aren't Dante Culpepper. I'm just thinking of big quarterbacks
off the top of my head. It's kind of like
remember how Shaq used to talk about how he is officiated.
I'm officiated differently because I'm bigger. They are looked at,
in my opinion, when it comes to this particular topic
much differently because they're bigger. I just got done saying
it about Josh Allen. The way he went down, there's

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no doubt in my mind he was concussed. Even if
it was mildly.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
It just isn't.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
It doesn't look as bad because he is so big,
his head still bouncing off the turn.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
It probably didn't look as bad because he wasn't on
his back, he was on his front. He was laying
down when people want to believe the video is showing
his limp arms, his limp body briefly as it was,
but you couldn't really, he couldn't be in a position
where you've got you know, the fingers pointing in ten
different directions.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
He's got ten of them, I mean, and.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Then all the other things, the poses, the locked up.
It wasn't visible to everybody because savage on his hair,
and you also, there was no camera angle that I
saw that showed his face. You couldn't see his eyes,
You couldn't see anything like that. So maybe a little
for me, a little bit less about his size, and
it really I wish people wouldn't think about it like that,

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like your head is. I mean, we act like what's
being concussed, not your two hundred and forty pound body.
You're five to ten pounds head.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It's your cpu, it's your head, it's what runs the
rest of your head hits.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
The turf and the helmet, then it's no different than
if Jalen Hurts hits his head, or if Drake May
hits his head, or if Drake May hits his head,
or if CJ.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Stroud hits his head.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Your head hits he's I shouldn't say no difference, but
it's such a slight difference. The big difference is he
is susceptible to it, right, It's happened so many times.
The medicals on it say, yes, that increases your susceptibility
to another one.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
And the only thing worse I think for a human
body would be repeated shots directly to the heart. That's
about the only thing that would be worse than this,
which is a repeated thing and is just a way
of life in the NFL. I have this conversation all
the time. My little guy's in studio today, off camera.
You can't see him. He does not want to be
on TV. I'm like, he's not gonna play. I have

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this conversation with other dads all the time. I don't
care what level it is. He's not playing football. He
was talking about playing baseball just this morning. That's fine,
and things can happen in baseball too, but it's just
it's it's it's a non starter because of this very thing.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Do I think he's gonna be in the NFL someday? No,
I doubt it.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
It's the law of average just says it's probably not
gonna happen if he were to go out and do this.
But I don't even want it to get that far.
It's just a violent sport and you know that going in.
But the crazy thing is you were talking about all
the millions guaranteed to TUA and all of these guys
because it is the most important position in sport. I
don't think they think about the money even tenth down

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the list. They want to get back out there.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Sure they do, but there are also other people with them, families, doctors, etc.
That are helping them to say there's more at stake here.
Interesting topic as we continue here on the A Team.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Hey, this is Killer B Craig Vigia a three thousand
hit club. You've got Killer A's in the afternoon, though
they have three thousand less hits.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Oh, have some fun. Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler on
Sports Talk.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I think Craig Vigio is going to be heavily involved
in whether or not the Astros bring back Alex Bregman
this offseason. I'm just saying that because he's performing a
liner coming into the segment.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
It is the a team Sports Talk seven ninety. I
feel like I hope that doesn't drag out.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
By the way, we've talked a lot about the Astros
in light of the fact that it's now been over
a week. A couple of days actually passed a week
since they were eliminated, and a lot's happened since then.
By the way, I'm not happy at all about what
happened in Kansas City last night.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well let's get to that in a moment. The just
my quick thought on the timeline of it. I think
the Astros involvement in it won't take forever. His actual
landing spot might take a little bit longer than that.
I don't think we're going to see a repeat of
last offseason, where Scott Boris and the majority of his
high dollar clients were Boris failing and waiting and waiting

(32:54):
and waiting and waiting and just never seemed to come
together for them. It's a little bit different offseason and
necessary he won't. I think he had a little bit
of control. Definitely did not work out in his or
his client's favor. I don't think maybe it will. I mean,
you can look back in hindsight on Montgomery situation. He
got a pretty good sum of money and he was awful,

(33:15):
but now what as he tries to go get more.
Blake Snell got an okay short term deal and then
the second maybe part of the year, four months of
the year, he was unbelievable. Yeah, and probably is in
a good position to get paid.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
He's the astros at one point. Yeah, Matt Chapman got
paid already.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
So after getting seventeen million or so per year over
three years with opt outs, he opted to take an extension.
They gets h one hundred and fifty million, one hundred
and fifty one million, So don't I don't think with
some of the people that are out there, and we've
kind of run through the list a couple of times,
especially on the offensive side with Bregman and Soto and Alonso,
and there are a few others a little bit lower

(33:54):
on the list. I think if the Astros don't have
him signed before he hits free agency, once he hits
free agent, see, I think we'll have enough reporting on
it to know where the Astros stand versus where the
Red Sox and the Phillies and the Cubs and the
Giants and the Mariners and you name it all stand
on what they're willing to put in front of him,

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because he doesn't really need to spend a whole lot
of time meeting with these teams and then waiting to
see what they decide to offer him. Once he gets
out into free agency, they're going to have offers. It's
not going to take a whole lot of time. He
may take a little bit of time to kind of
decide if this is as good as it can get.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Or where do I want to go?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Or the team that I wanted has gotten involved to
the extent that I might actually say yes to them,
and soon after I think the Astros maybe there's a
courtesy here's where we are. Where are you guys now
because we need you to come up a lot, or
he's just moved on.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
But the thing about that is, if he's serious about
a comeback or a stay here, in this case to Houston.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
That needs to be and will be.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
I would as soon point it out before all this
start tapping, so that you know Scott Boris is going
to do Scott Boris things. But at the end of
the day, I mean, look at jose Al Tuve. He
basically the story goes instructed him. I don't want to
go anywhere. I want to stay here, get it done.
I'm not saying Bregman has to or even would consider

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doing that.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Why don't you say the opposite, because he definitely isn't
telling him to do that, right, right, he hasn't told
him to do that, and there's no reason to believe
he's about to start telling him to do that.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
But what if he really does want to stay here,
if any part of him does, which I think Korea did.
I don't think George Springer did. This is all different.
This is not orange colored glasses that I'm looking through here.
I think Korea actually legitimately wanted to stay in Houston,
but it just wasn't. Jeremy Pania absolutely factored into things

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like that. It's just different, Like you said, it's not
just the players, it's different situations. This is very much
not that case, It's it's not just that you would
lose Alex Bregman, it's the alternative is just so, I
don't even think about twenty.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Five, how your offensive third basement next year could be
better than your offensive shortstop depending on Like I don't
I think people realize this, and I'm not sitting here
to try to crush through scenario.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
But Jery Pane is not a good offensive player.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
No.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I know that he's at best, he is average. His
numbers for three consecutive years are screaming at that at everybody.
He's at his moments, he turns a lot of would
be groundouts into infield singles. He showed a little bit
more pop this year than he did the year before,
but overall, in a number of different ways that you
look at it doesn't take walks and from rookie year

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to completion of year three, and he's been healthy for
all of it, I don't.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I guess this is who he is. I think improvements
can be made.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, but he's been three consecutive years of basically being
the same offensive player.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
He's he's a drop off in offense and he's a
drop off in defense. From what you had in Korea,
and it's not it's pretty pronounced. Actually, in both cases,
I would say he's good defender.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I'm not saying he.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Is also available and that should matter. Carlers Korea yesterday,
very brief comment that I made on Korea. He had
a really good year this year, which was absolutely true.
But I didn't have the time before we you know,
send it to commercials and everything to say. But he
only played eighty six games.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing about.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Alexi nine five ops. He was one hundred and fifty
two ops plus and seventy six times he was not
playing for the Twins in a one hundred and sixty
two game season.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
How many games percentage wise roughly has George Springer missed
since leaving Houston. And I know he was older, But
those two departures have absolutely been softened by that exact.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
They've been softened by the fact that the Astros have
been awesome.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Well, that's the obvious part of it. Like I don't,
I'm not broken up for what they then do. I'm
the injurer angle is a part of it, because you
factor that in when you put your offer on the table,
when you consider at age.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
You know, Bregman's next year is he going to be healthy?
Sure he is. What about the next year?

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
So what about when he's thirty four? What about when
he's thirty five? And the same thing for any of those.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
He hasn't always been healthy.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Last three year George has been pretty healthy one hundred
and thirty three hundred fifty four hundred and forty.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Five games since he's been out there.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
But the two years prior two years, I think most
of them he's.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Just one year with Toronto he missed half a season. Oh,
he's been there four years. He missed half a year
and I had switched to Bregman.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
The other three years he's been pretty much out there.
I mentioned this the other day.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Bregman and then Payn are the only two Astros to
play over four hundred games the last two seasons. Yeah,
or three, excuse me, three seasons since Payne arrived, they've
been out there, and definitely in Alex's case this year
playing through it. He I'm not saying he shouldn't have
been out there, based on what he was still able
to do. He absolutely should have kept playing. But I
don't think it was easy and I don't think it

(38:51):
was comfortable, and the difference definitely needs a procedure.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
He hasn't had it already.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Yeah, and it's it's a very small, very easy and
relatively speaking.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I've seen some off season horse racing social media posts
that suggests he hasn't had a procedure yet, but I
couldn't tell you for sure.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah, this is not the time of year you typically
see him in Kentucky, but there he was. But again,
that's a it's a slight procedure microscopic where his recovery
time is like less than four weeks, I think, and
you know that's that's fine, But that's different from soft
tissue leg injuries which really did hamper him not that

(39:32):
long ago, And have to be in the back of
your mind if you're any team that's looking at.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
His medical chart, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Okay, we're gonna batistically like Springer, except he's played a
little more of the last three years that of those
four years that were comparing him Springer's departure. In Bregman's
four years here, he had ninety one games played in
twenty one, the same year Springer missed a little bit
over half a season. The other three years, Bregman's been
able to pretty much answer the bell whenever needed. Late
this year, he missed a handful of games. He still
played one hundred and forty. He still had six hundred

(40:01):
and thirty four played appearances, and by the end of
the season his OPS plus was close to what it
had been over the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
His OPS was a little bit down.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Well to the point where, in Bregman's case, you have
to drag him to the dugout to say you're taking
an off day if he's even eighty percent.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
If they can win some more games to open up
next season and play from a reasonably decent position in
the standings, guys are going to be much more well
rested next year. I'm sure Joe wished he could have
done it differently, but it felt like there just was
no room for air, no margin for air. So they
grinded it out all the way to their two games
in the postseason this year. Unfortunately, that's an hour we
got two more.

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Speaker 1 (41:16):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Teams
series Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
A team opportunity for us here on the A Team
on Sports Talk seven to ninety and right there on
the simulcast on Space City Home Network to share the
airwaves with one of the co hosts of Next Up.
We can do it at five o'clock on Mondays with
Stan Norfleet. We do it here on Fridays or Thursdays
at four o'clock here with Chris Gordy a segment or

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two on the Pigskin or whatever else we have to
get Chris's insight and opinion on. So Chris Gordy now
here with us on the A Team. It is a
big difference from last week's college football schedule, but they're
going to be hard pressed to match the drama of
what last week's schedule provided, especially in the SEC, with

(42:11):
Bama and Tennessee both losing the SEC big surprise still
on center stage this week if you'll allow for the
extremely traditional Big Ten matchup between Ohio State and Oregon
gracing our weekend, but Texas ou weekend and Ole Miss
at LSU in the evening certainly is the stage center.

(42:31):
We'll start with one of the two games you can
hear right here on our family of networks, Texas OU Quen,
you are back in the saddle for Sarks squad.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
A no brainer of a decision, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
I think so.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
I'm just a little in a perfect hot iver have
liked to have gotten them into one of the rental wins.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
You know before, what did you call them rental wins?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
You know it was Mississippi State a rental Yeah, basically
they paid a conference team to play.

Speaker 8 (42:55):
Then they have established themselves as the worst team in
the SEC, And I said that that was my big
take away from last weekend is that I think we
know Mississippi State's the worst team in the conference, but
one through fifteen, I think on any given day, one
through fifteen, the SEC can beat the other team, and
that just happened.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Van Dey beat Alabama.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
So yeah, I think it's a little bit more level
playing field. But you know, Quinny was coming back. Arch
Manning did this thing, did well. I just I need
Quinn to get off to a good start here. We
know he threw the two early interceptions in the game
last year. We know he led them on the go
ahead field goals drive late in last year's game, and
then Oklahoma came back and scored and scored to go
ahead and touchdown and won it. So this is one

(43:36):
of three matchups this weekend has been largely dominated by
one side in recent history. Oklahoma's won eleven in the
last fifteen. Yet I don't know a soul that is
picking Oklahoma to win this game this weekend, and.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
We talk about it because of the new era of
Texans football, Demiico and see Jack. I don't care if
teams beat the Texans when Lovey or Cully or Romeo
or Bill were calling.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
The shots the same way.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I don't really care what Oklahoma was doing pre Venables
or what Texas was doing pre Sark. I mean, should
you really look back at the long history. I get
it that it's a rivalry game, and you can throw
a lot of stuff out the window, but it's Sark's
team fully in place now from a recruiting standpoint, clearly
and has been same thing on the other side.

Speaker 8 (44:15):
Yeah, I get it, But I mean, you know, we
can say Sark is what one and two in this
in this.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Rival right, So it's not even like that some huge advantage.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Yeah, but it's still losing record to me.

Speaker 8 (44:24):
The ultimate walk card in this game is Oklahoma made
a quarterback change a few weeks ago. Jackson Arnold benched
Michael Hawkins in Hawkins played the fourth quarter against Tennessee
where he led him on two scoring drives. And then
it gets Auburn where didn't lead many scoring drives, but
enough to get the win.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
So we really don't know what he is. If he's
out in space and.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
He's running around and doing his thing, he's gonna have
to lead them on some scoring drives. But the big
question is what is Texas's defense? How do they crush him?
And if they limit him, which, by the way, Oklahoma's
wide receivers still all banged up. I mean, Dion Burk's
the transfer from Berdue not gonna play. Nick Anderson, AMC
freshman from a year ago, not going to play. So

(45:03):
it's definitely it's largely advantaged Texas, but it's a rivalry game.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Weird things happen in rivalry.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Games, by the way, other than just saying, well, any
given Saturday, SEC it's college football. How do you win
an emotional game like that against Georgia and then lose
to Vanderbilt the very next week.

Speaker 8 (45:18):
Because Obama's not very good? I mean they're they're wait
a second, what, well.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
The number one team in the country.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
Well they were because not very good.

Speaker 8 (45:28):
Well what we were blindside and that Georgia win because
they dominated the first half so well. And Georgia had
a lot of stupid things. Carson Beck through three terrible interceptions,
they fumbled the ball away and all this. But what
people neglected was that Georgia played their butts off in
the second half, got back into that game, took the
lead late, and then Bama came back to win it.
But the reaction to that game was, my god, Bama's

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so dominant. I was like, wait a minute, I just
saw them blow a second half a twenty eight point lead.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
So maybe quantify that not very good. You know, Alabama's
obviously not the number one team in the country anymore, right,
But who do you think is better than them? How
many teams in this country going into this weekend, because
you don't know what this weekend will be, how many
teams do you think are really better.

Speaker 8 (46:07):
Than That's the tough part. In the NFL, we all
play comparable schedules. It will come out in the wash.
In the NFL. In college, it's not a level playing field.
Texas has not been tested yet. They got a nice
early road win at Michigan, but as the season goes
long and gets we start to see Michigan's not very good,
but so like what's Texas's best resume win. They haven't
gotten to the nitty gritty of their SEC schedule yet.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
We'll see it in time.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
They're gonna play Georgia here, They're gonna play a road
trip at Arkansas, They're gonna play a road trip at
A and M. This will all wash out, but I
still think Texas does not come out unscathed. I think
they're going to lose a game or two along the way,
because this is how it works playing at SEC schedule.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Who do you think is gonna We'll have you back
in here all throughout the year, But I'm already looking
forward to our conversation the final week of November, when
Texas and Texas A and M are playing for both of
them potentially to then play again in the SEC title game.
We can get into to the Aggie situation next week
full because they're off this week. They're not going to

(47:04):
lose another game the rest of the year until they
play Texas.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
If that's a loss, well, I've guaranteed that one as
an Aggie win since the offseason because it's going to
be their super Bowl. I mean Lea Vann wrote a
piece this week saying, tickets to get in the door
already seen them.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
They are going to put.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
I don't care what A and M's record is at
that point, whether it's ten wins or six wins, like
they're going to put everything. They happen to beating the
Long Horns because they want to win that game that badly.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
And I was there for the final matchup before this long,
long vacation they had from each other, and it was
a game winning kick by the long Horns, which is
probably what will happen that night.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
Well, we'll see when we get there if.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
It is their Super Bowl, like you're saying, and I
have every reason to believe you're right, because that's how
this rivalry that's all of a sudden renewed is.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Yeah, just don't walk on the grass.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
It's just well, I don't know how much.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
I don't know if I like that, or the fact
that getting in and out of that place is ridiculous
for an engineering school.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
It's most sec school. So you've been a Darkville, Mississippi.
There's one road in, one road out.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
I've been to Foxborough and that was the only time
it was worse. One road in, one road out. But
that's an NFL stadium and a.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Lot of donuts shops on the way in and out
in Foxborough, very specifically shop they're all duncan Ole.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Miss LSU kind of should end our evening, although Vandy
Kentucky actually kicks off I think half an hour later.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Actually be the most intriguing game.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
But LSUS in an interesting spot.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Every year it seems like we get to the point
where what is Brian Kelly's team is Brian Kelly's kind
of spot in everything because it was really no different
than Notre Dame man, this is the year or this
time they're really good and then they lose, but they
are still really good and their only losses to the
three point I mean, how good do you think LSU
really is and are they in a good spot to

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make it two straight losses for ole Miss.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
It's still a big questions about LSU's defense. But a
lot of things are growing in Lshu's favor here. LSU
is sixteen and six in their last twenty two against
ole Miss. Ole Miss has not won in Death Valley
since two thousand and eight Lane Kiff and has never won.
There is a lot of things work in their favor.
I'm still shocked that ole Miss is a three and
a half point favorite. Their best weapon, Trey Harris, is
questionable for this game. He not only leads the SEC

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in receiving, he leads the country and receiving.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
One thing in ole Missus benefit. Do you guys know?

Speaker 8 (49:15):
Ole Miss leads the country in sacks with twenty four.
LSU is one of the least sacked teams in the country.
They've only been sacked twice. Garrett Nusmart has been phenomenal
for them, so the big thing that's got to give
here is it's good on good. LSU's pass protection is
very good. Can ole Miss disrupt them and get after it?

Speaker 5 (49:31):
One other stet? I like in this one.

Speaker 9 (49:32):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
Do y'all know Brian Kelly's only lost one home game
since he's taken over at LSU. That was the Tennessee
two years ago when Hendon Hooker was there. I just
think everything is working in LSU's favor. If they lose
this game is because their defense still isn't up to
par for LSU standards and they lose a shootout.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
LSU Ole Miss.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
You can hear on KPRC nine point fifty and of
course U t Oklahoma Texas OU tomorrow both games tomorrow
on sports Stock seventy.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
If LSU wins that game him because you're talking about
nine versus thirteen right now, how how far do the
Tigers climb?

Speaker 5 (50:07):
I mean they're in ten, their top ten in the
coaches poll. I don't know why the AP.

Speaker 8 (50:10):
The AP moved Texas up last week to number one
on their by LSU had a bye and they stayed
the thirteen.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
They jumped three teams ahead of them.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
They but I think it didn't I think it's people
are questioning how good is LSU. So this will be
a big feather in their cap a big marquee win.
And the other side, Lane Kiffin, they dropped the two
losses already, I mean they they still got to play Georgia.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
I mean they got more losses coming.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
And his expectations were him from him, were go ten
and to and make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
But it's like he keeps bringing up and goes back
to what you said about, you know, Texas not being
unscathed by the time.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
It doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 8 (50:47):
It matters from a standpoint of you. You win the SEC,
you get a bye in the playoff. That does matter.
I don't want to act like it doesn't matter. But yes,
ten and two, ten and two in the BCS, you're
going to the Capitol one or something.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Ten and two in this ere, you're in the play ibe.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
You're coming here. Where to the Texas Bowl? Oh, you
get a buckle and such that might be. We're debating
what team that could be. It could be Vandy this year,
could be Kentucky. Just so for Vandy wants because of
last year or because of last week, excuse me, they
are sizeable dogs.

Speaker 8 (51:18):
This week, and yeah, I think that's disrespectful. They dominated Alabama.
That wasn't a flu class week. They dominated from the
get go until the very end. I love Kaylen divorce
quote the other night as Coaches Show. He said, yeah,
we just ran out of time, brother, Kaylen, Vandy was
going down the field to score again.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
On your ass.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
You lost by five. You're lucky. You would have lost
by twelve if we added five minutes to the clock.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
A lot of Alabama fan craziness storylines related to that loss.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
I only wanted a yes or no answer. Is this is?

Speaker 5 (51:47):
This?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Was this a real thing for Alabama fans that they
were upset that their head coach wore a T shirt
on the sidelines.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Oh yeah, like this was a coach.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
Don't dress like you're going to play a pickup game
at the YMCA, like were a dan polo or a sweatshirt.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
It was a real thing.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Apparently, let's do not wear a T shirt on the
sidelines if you're the head coach of Alabama or else.
You'll see what happens and they lose to Vanderbilt. If
you're nice enough and can hit us with another segment,
we went into the NFL side of things, some other
football related items as we continue here on a Friday
edition and the four o'clock hour here of the A Team.
All of this a big lead up to Stone Cold Locks.

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Speaker 6 (53:11):
The A Team continues one Sports Talk seven nineties.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Back at it here on the A Team on a Friday,
A lot of football to talk about. College football is
in the part of their year where there's pretty much
college football on every single night, and there has been,
and there was an NFL game last night to kick
off the weekend. Kind of ran through most of what
I think is interesting to people on the college football front.
Will give you thirty seconds here, Gordy on the last

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of those three games that obviously deserves a little national attention.
Is it the toughest test? Will it be a test
at all for Ohio State and Oregon?

Speaker 8 (53:48):
I think this is just my and I cover the
SEC mostly, but just kind of looking from afar, it
feels like Dylan Gabriel has not been what they thought
he was supposed to be. In Oregon, I feel like
they're a little bit of fulls goal there. Oh I
think Ohio State's just loaded this freshman receiver with Jeremiah
Smith or what. He's incredible when Shawn Judkins come over
from all this has been great in the run game,

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like everything Ohio State's done. And then look, they haven't
blown people out tremendously like we thought either. But I
just feel like of the two, this feels like ripe
for the picking and maybe maybe Ohio State only wins
by seven and gets out with the win. But it
just does feel like that could be the start of
the unraveling of Oregon and they end up with three
or four losses this year.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Something you said about Texas kind of reminds me of
the Texans. Don't you feel like the way Gordy is
looking at the Longhorns is how a lot of people
are looking at the Houston Texans this year. Well, they
haven't been tested yet. When they have, they lost, Like,
are they really this good?

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Well, no, they're good.

Speaker 8 (54:42):
I just again, you don't know until they play somebody
really good, and they may not.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Believe what you're saying because the competition is so weak
that the Longhorns have a really good defense.

Speaker 8 (54:54):
I think they're really good. I just again, like, who's
the best quarterback they face? That's test them yet they
haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
That'll be that helps them completely dominate teams in the
run game because there's no threat. So I can see
that and they might be in the same boat this
week when with Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Okay, let's say they handle Oklahoma. I don't want to
say they blow them out. Let's just say it's a
camp like fourteen and a half or something exactly. But
whatever the case, because I do think that's what's going
to happen. What do they have to do against Georgia
to convince you that this win and what's your gut
tell you that game is going to be I know

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that's extremely out in front of things because they haven't
played this game.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
Yeah, I think George has been sleepwalking through some of
their schedule. They they played like otter garbage for two
quarters against Alabama and played much better than the second
half and nearly came back to win that game.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
It would have been all an all time comeback for them.

Speaker 8 (55:48):
And it's a hostile environment TuS close to the tough
environment going into Austin. I think the fans will be ready.
It'll be another hostile environment for them. But if Texas wins,
I don't care. If they win by one point, that's
a hell of a win because George's rosters up and
down load oth for and five star talent at every position.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
And that's life in the SEC. At the end of
the year, you don't have to prove how good you are.
Did you win all your games? Did you manage to
make your way through? And they've done that and bam,
has done that in other years, and I think everyone
would agree if Texas does that, even though after Georgia,
especially if Texas handles Oklahoma and then Oklahoma loses a
game or two more, that will be the one huge
SEC game that they will have had to make. But

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nobody will care because you won that game, and obviously
you won all your other games. Texans go into this
week four and one, four straight losses for the team
they're playing, and a quarterback change, taking out a quarterback
who is incapable of playing at an NFL level and
putting in a quarterback we don't know about, very good athlete,
which is probably being overlooked a little bit. They do
not have Ramandre Stevenson, so Antonio Gibson and others will

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be the run game for the Patriots. Are you one
that is afraid of the Texans the way it seems
like so many in the national LEADIA are like, why
would they do this this week when they have the
Jaguars next week? Why would they put May out there
are now against a capable dangerous Texans d Yeah.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Stanon, I got into it earlier this week on that.
I just think it's a decision the Patriots are making
that decision because in the best interest of the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
This has nothing to do with the Texans.

Speaker 8 (57:15):
Nothing to do with they are playing. They know Jacoby
versset was so bad in the last two weeks. They
run him out there again. They're sending the message to
the team, Hey, we know this guy stinks, and we're
gonna send him out there anyway, like the Cleveland's doing.
You in here, Yeah, you talking about losing a team.
That's how you lose a locker room. This guy gives
this no chance. We are thanking. So Drake May is

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the unknown. We don't know how good he can be.
It is an interesting fact that Demko did struggle with
rookie quarterbacks this year. I don't know why, but.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Those guys won.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I don't know that they struggled with them and his
defensive personnel this year, even though John Grenard and Daniel
Hunter at best is a wash. The rest of their
defense got better because disease is here, because Derek Singley
juniors on the field. What is different though, I would
say it's better if Kamari Lastere was gonna be out there.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
There's a big drop off that hunts.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
Yeah, and then and the bodies behind him is not
there's no clear cut. Oh that's the guy we're gonna
go with. Yeah, but it's just it's just one of
those things like Drake May's got the flim sneaky runner too,
Like we're not talking enough about He had one.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Hundred yard game in his last college last college game rushing.

Speaker 8 (58:22):
So watch him. They get in the red zone, you
hope he runs. Yeah, Okay, well he'll.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Get his knock his block knocked off. Since you brought
it up personal foul roughing the passer.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Happened last week with it.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
They knock him out and they're playing Jacoby Brissett. Do
you think they're gonna care about that flag?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
They're not going into game. There's not bounty gate. Sean
Payton's not their coach. Hey, bounty gate was just a
ruse for something else.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
If you hear all the conspiracy theorists, since you brought
up losing a locker room, how many more weeks does
just Sean Watson start?

Speaker 5 (58:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (58:53):
Did you see Aaron Aaron Shotts of Football Outsiders said,
diving into the numbers it he's on pace for one
of the thirty five worst seasons ever by the NFL quarterback.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
He to this day talks about the statistical wonder that
was the four win season the last time he was
the full time quarterback in Houston. He put up ungodly
numbers and they never won. I've never seen a quarterback, well,
I've never definitely seen a quarterback be involved with everything
that he supposedly allegedly whatever is. But then the pendulum

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swinging as far as his actual on on field play
is insane.

Speaker 8 (59:29):
Well, what I'm more angry about is they are saving
us from the microphone gold that is Jamis Winston. If
they would just make the change, we'd get to hear
Jamis talk every week. He's actually still a pretty good quarterback.
I think he'd win games for Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
That's right, there was I was about to get to
they put him in and they start winning.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Oh my, can you imagine Cleveland fans.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Or last year with Flaco.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
But they're paying Deshaun how much for the rest of
the He's like Joseah Bray with money.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
The money. It gets to a point where who gets
the best chance to win.

Speaker 8 (59:57):
I mean, I know they're saying all the right things,
but yeah, come on, they lose again.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
That it's coming. The quarterback change has to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Cleveland at Philly, they're almost ten point dogs. Then they
play the currently one win Bengals, and then they play Baltimore.
I think that's somewhere in this three week stretch it's
over because there could be three more loss all those. Yeah,
I think there's a real good chance.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
But the Bengals aren't that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
It has no impact on the Texans anymore other than
it's a team you don't have to worry about in
the AFC. Who do the Texans have to worry about
most five weeks into the season. I don't need you
to say the Chiefs. I think we all know that.
Where do you think the hierarchy of the AFC kind
of lands now? One through five? Chiefs are one? Where
the Texans and who are the other three?

Speaker 8 (01:00:38):
I think the Ravens are still I would still put
them ahead of them. I know that they've got a
couple losses, but still the head to head. They were
two and zer against the Texans last year, including a
playoff win, so I'd put the Ravens up there. I
think the Texans are probably just by being in a
bad division, probably the third best team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Keep in mind the only other three and two teams
which is still a game worse than Houston. One of
them is Buffalo. You can't put Buffalo. Another one is Denver,
who's buying them, right, and the other one's Pittsburgh. Yeah,
and then the Texans worse than the third, right.

Speaker 8 (01:01:17):
And that's what's wild is I think there's a few
things are all true here. The Texans record is what
matters most. Wins are what matters most. They have not
looked like the dominant team. We thought they would look
like we'd like them to improve it and get better.
So people mistake that when they hear, like when I'm
critical that Texans, while you're hating all the Texans, it's
not hating off the Texans.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
It's just we just thought they were much better.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
But why are you Why are you hating on the Sexes?
Come on now, I know, well, I mean, maybe beat somebody.

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
You beat the Colts by two, and you beat like
you're beating these teams by just a couple of points.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Is league?

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
There's no there's no poll in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Puts your foot on the throat of your opponent. You
got them beat and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Have the Chiefs done that this year, nobody's doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
The difference the Chiefs are five games.

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
Last year looked looked super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
You had the benefit of the doubt. The tees have
not achieved anything.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
But and it sounds cliche, and it is, but it's
the truth. It is so hard to win in the NFL.
Kraba River go beat the teams, not crying. You were
a good.

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
Team last year and you added Daniel Hunter, you added
Stefon dig you added Joe Mixon.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
You are light years better, but you'll play one game
for you. I'm just saying, like on paper, you're a
better team.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Not if he's not on the paper anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
And honestly, you should have done a better job of
addressing the back of burd I mentioned this briefly and
we've got it for further days.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Daniel Hunter has been really good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Even if people don't see the sacks, they're missing out
on the fact. And with Andrew, depending on which numbers
you're looking at, he's number one in the NFL and pressures.
That's one thing you can decide however you want on that.
He's not been better than John Grenard. Not John Garnard
with the Texans in twenty twenty three, nor better than
John Garnard with the Vikings in twenty twenty four. I
don't think the gap is huge, but Grenard has been phenomenal,

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now running on a second straight year and now playing
for a defense that has been crazy. Like I said,
bigger conversation later on end result, what happens by three
o'clock Sunday in New England with the Texans and the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
I think they win.

Speaker 8 (01:03:15):
I think it's another probably ugly game, you know said
I think I said twenty to thirteen, but it was
just twenty four to thirteen, twenty eight ten. I think
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Twenty eight and ten isn't over by half a point,
twenty four thirteen isn't under by a half point year.

Speaker 8 (01:03:30):
I'd love to say forty nine to three. I'd love
to say run away with it. I just don't think
it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
But yes, a win there six and a half point
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Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Next up with Stan Norfleet. This man right here, Chris Bordiy,
appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Dumbest argument you guys had this week. Come on off
the top of your head five seconds, Rick May, Yeah,
all right, good stuff from Gordia as always and yes,
as you heard, wex men.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Stone cold Locks of the week are straight ahead.

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Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
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Make an answer, guys giving it to you.

Speaker 10 (01:04:31):
You can trust whatever it said, or you could trust
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Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
It's a crap shoot either way.

Speaker 10 (01:04:38):
But these are your stone cold.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Locks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Friday is four thirty three, twenty five in the afternoon.
We like to get you our stone cold locks. That's
what we're gonna do here. Wex ac dan with you,
and of course, even when we fall flat on our
a review of the previous week, one of us got
two more wins than they got a week ago, and
that was all it took to best the two of

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us that are sitting in here. Dan's absolutely thrilling stellar
two out of five correct picks last week Best of
the Bunch, Ac and I picked five games and got
one of them correct, and that was it, so way
too much on the wrong side of it. The three
of us have been running pretty well over the last

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couple of weeks despite an over but we had gotten
a good distance over five hundred as a trio with
our stone Cold Locks, even though we mocked the name
of the segment for obvious reasons. If we're supposed to
be fairly intelligent, we're supposed to recognize the matchups and
pick out the ones that we feel best about and
run with them. Well, we have been, and we now

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need to write that ship as we move forward into
the upcoming week.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
We know our game of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
We've talked a lot about it today, not a whole
lot the previous days leading up to the Red River
Rivalry or shootout.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Very little. Old You are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Texas ou this weekend, middle of the day, so hopefully
you've carved out some time to enjoy it, or are
making your plans or going through your plans right now
to be there for the game. Better than a two
touchdown favorite is where the Texas Longhorns will go into
this game for our purposes. At fourteen and a half
point favorites over under a forty nine, that game must

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be a pick. And of course the Texans this weekend
same story, minus six and a half point favorites at
New England are over under of forty nine. We need
a prop from a player prop from each of us,
and two other wild card selections of your choosing. We'll
start with three picks from you, Dan, your player prop,
and your two wild card games will actually hold on

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to the game of the week this time.

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
I'm gonna go a player prop Joe Burrow over one
and a half passing touchdowns, one from college, one from
the NFL College first LSU as I got it was
plus three against Ole Miss So money coming in on
LSU for that one, and the Lions at the Dallas
Cowboys three point favorite. I am taking Dan Campbell's bunch

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just the way you say it. You say as I
got it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
You make me feel like Bruno while you were on
the phone with Bruno Veto or Rocco earlier today.

Speaker 11 (01:07:22):
No no, no, I followed the rules, followed the rules. I
went through the rubric and I got the line that
is perfect for this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
One, so.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
You I believe it. Probably first one is free.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
You were you were good in having your selections in
earlier than somebody else here myself.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Pretty usual. But it is now at three and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
Oh so it went back up, all right, Just don't
take That's why I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
You know that right when I put it in it
was at three.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
So I guess more money is coming in on old
miss now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
All right, So same from UAC. Let's hear your player
prop and your two wild card selections.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Stroud over a touchdown and half passing touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I mean, come on, well he only had one last week.
He only has seven in five games.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Seas I know I don't want to hear it. I'm
telling you right now this is it. In fact, he
might even blow that out of the water.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
The passing props that we use for those that have
followed us the last couple of Stone Cold Lock seasons,
it's pretty much standard.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
If you're playing, you have a one and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Almost every single quarterback's over under on passing touchdowns is
one and a half unless they're terrible. And the quarterbacks
this week that fall into that category. Deshaun Watson so
point five point five man, the quarterback starting his first
NFL game against the Texans, Drake May and Will Levis
us I'll get to Will Levis, he is making his return.

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Yep the quarterback making his starting debut for the Saints,
also at point half or a half with Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Well, he's also going to have Alvin Kamara to turn
around and hand the ball to both quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
In the Steelers Raiders game, Aidan O'Connell's been named the
starter for Gardner Minshew and Justin Fields. I guess is
hanging on by a thread in Pittsburgh despite the fact
they're three and two. Russell Wilson is expected to be
active and acting as his backup this week. Bon Nicks
also draws an over under of half a touchdown pass

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this week, So rookies for the most part, along with
Justin Fields and of course to Sean Wall.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
By the way, if Mike Tomlin wants to ruin a
good thing, he has going go ahead and just.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Start Russell Wilson as your quarterback, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Your two other games Texans non college game of the week.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Boy Lions at Cowboys. The over under on that one's
fifty two has a juicy number. I am going to
call upon the fact that for starters, Mike or Parsons
is not involved in this thing as saying, I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Just a lot of their defense not involved in this thing, right, which.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
Is a good reason that both of these teams are
gonna somehow combine for more than fifty two.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
One sounds taking over all right, and the Jags and
the Bears early Sunday morning overseas, so the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Fact that they have to get up early, I'm just kidding,
that's us. This has underwritten all over it. Trevor Lawrence,
oh goree a bigger performances the Cults is a division game,
blah blah blah. The Bears that pass rushed by the Jags,
if it does anything like the Texans did to him,
it just screams under. So I will take under forty
four and a half on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
I also looked at that game, but I'll just take
the Bears basically to win it, though if they only
win by one, I'll have a push. Bears are minus
one against the Jags. I've got a college game. I
told Gordy that I was a little surprised that Vandy
was such a sizeable underdog against Kentucky. He called it disrespectful.
I agree. I'll take Vandy at plus twelve and a
half my prop this week. We've talked about it a

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little bit. Tank Dell, seriously, fifty five and a half yards.
I think you can do that. I really feel like
this is the week you have at least fifty six
passing yards through or receiving yards from CJ. So I'll
take you on, Tank Dell. By the way, digs number
was sixty five and a half. I'll start in on
the games we've left. Our game of the week college football.

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I'll take the under in Texas OU. I think one
team's gonna score a bunch of points. I think the
other team is not gonna score a lot of points.
But I was afraid of fourteen and a half, so
I just took the under, and I will take the
Texans to cover the minus six and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Very pleased that it's a shade under seven.

Speaker 11 (01:11:26):
What about you, Dan, I'm gonna go Texas minus fourteen
and a half against OU. All those injuries for OU
and a freshman quarterback not good, and I'm gonna go
to Texans to cover that six and a half at
New England.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
We mentioned it earlier. The Texans have played five games.
This is game number six. They have covered the number
only one time. Dan and I are saying they're gonna
make it to this week. What about you Texans and Texas?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Ou all right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
I'm in lockstep with my co host yet again on
a game Texas Oklahoma under forty nine and the Texans
at the Patriots. Well give though, I just got done
saying Shroud's gonna pass for more under thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
So you're locking in fourteen points from Stroud and expecting
less than twenty four for the rest of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
For everybody else, May He's not gonna be contributing to
this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
So yeah, it's if you were forced to take Drake
Mays over under on touchdown passes, which is un her.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
I would take the over. Oh it's a half. Yeah,
it's a he's one of the guys, which that's right,
you did that. I still what is he gonna do?
What do you do to protect the young quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
He's not gonna get sacked if he drops back forty times.
Let's say we're gonna have what six or seven sacks.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
I'm just saying he's gonna turn around and hand it
off more, is what I'm saying. You're not gonna get
turns the clock.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
No, it won't. They won't.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
They're gonna lose. It's it's just how that's That's where
I'm at on this one. So yeah, very interesting the
games this week. There's like three that are good at all.
I'm talking about NFL and the rest are well, hang on,
let me see if I can do this impression of
wex h or dreadful. Those are the two that you
usually go with. So yeah, those are our stone cold
locks of the week for this week, and we've got

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a lot more to get to here.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
On a Friday edition of the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Show The Eight on Sports Talk seven ninety, there's a
space City Home Networks.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
Todd Kallis, there's the at you got him. It's Adam
Clinton and Adam Websler.

Speaker 11 (01:13:20):
Clinton, stop impersonating me on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
That just makes me miss baseball. TK Blummer. Blummer is
on his SEC tour.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
By the way, yep ole miss LSU tomorrow evening for him.
You brought up baseball earlier. I tabled it till now.
There's one more series of or one more series on
each side to be determined one tonight Padres Dodgers, one
tomorrow afternoon. A couple of different times scheduled for the

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Guardians Tigers series, and it is now a midday game
was supposed to be at night, and weather it's pushing
it a little bit earlier in the day so they
can play it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
But game five's there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
New York teams await their opponents and the respective cs is.
You said you were a little upset about what went
down yesterday in baseball?

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
What had you're so upset? I wanted the Royals to win.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Yankees beat the Royals last night and won the series
by the virtue of that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Win, just basically, I mean, and I saw this thought
put out there a lot on social afterward.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Easiest path ever.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
I mean, Jery Carabas said it with you know, he's
diehard Red Sox guy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
But lots of people were saying this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
A lot of Astros fans are saying this, which is
dumb because you're not there, so you can only you know,
play the teams that are in front of them. And
if you wanted to knock off the Yankees in the ALCS. Again,
then you should have beaten the Tigers and then the Guardians.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Baseball, it's a little hard for me to go with
the easiest path ever, unless that includes somebody on that
team can't play.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
That matters.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Now they became an easier team. They're in the playoffs.
It's baseball. I mean, we know how hard it is
to win. If you're not the Astros. For most years
of our Golden era, it doesn't really matter who you're playing,
because they're there, they can beat you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Arizona showed that last year. The Rangers showed that last year.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Everybody that's beaten the Yankees and the Dodgers over the
past six to eight years has shown that. I don't
I'm not really down for that unless there's that special case,
like let's say the Tigers win tomorrow, but it costs
them t ourg school. He somehow goes down and can't
play in the next series. Well, yeah, that's gonna change
my thought about can you get past the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
That's a huge, huge deal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
You know, if Bobby wit Junior got hurt in Game
one of this series against the Yankees, that stuff is
a little bit different. And it would maybe fall into
the easiest path. And that's why I'm on board with
it when we talk about it in the NBA all
the time, because injuries in the postseason actually to me
seem like they dictate who ends up going further in
the postseason, maybe even winning. But just on its face value,

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they got the Royals because Baltimore could not reach that point. Well,
Baltimore was eight and five against the Yankees this year.
That seems like a tough test. It's the team you
got now, so maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Garret
cole pitch pretty well, went seven innings, ended up giving
up just the one run.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
It was close game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
And their new ish closer has been awesome and demoting
their closer into whatever role he's in now. He pitches
all over the place now Clay Holmes, but Weaver's been
great and that can make the difference in the postseason
when they give the ball to him, it's over. The
other series has looked a little bit less like that
for their closer. Class gave up another run in last

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night's game, but luckily he had a two run cushion
and they still won by one. And that's why that
series is in a game five.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
I just if if the situation is and again they're saying,
these people saying that it's the easiest path to the
World's Series.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Would you prefer the Yankees losing the Alcs again or
get to the World Series thinking something great is gonna
happen and then lose.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Well, you're already saying it's the easiest path when they've
only played one team, right with home field advantage after
an off week, which they earned by being the best
team in the AL. I think if Cleveland wins tomorrow,
they advance, it's kind of impossible not to call them
the second best team. You might not think they're very good,
and maybe that's why you're saying it, so none of

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the matchups matter. You may just might think, oh, the
al sucked this year, so of course the Yankees win
it this year because they don't have any competition.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
But that's kind of not real.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
That the opposite of it, the Yankees aren't even that good, right,
and they just might be the best of the bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Nobody won one hundred games.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
You could argue that, oh, it's because everybody sucked, or
you could say it's because they were very much more
competitive as a league.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Because I can definitely say that, you can say teams
aren't really shooting for that, you could say that. Injuries
certainly seem like they play a massive role across baseball's landscape.
Our perception is that it was like the worst year
ever for injuries, and I don't know that that's accurate,
but it certainly feels that way. But yeah, I'm not
if the Yankees win a ds n ACS and a
World Series. I mean, I'm not discounting it for any reason,

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unless like the one caveat I already gave. But if
they have to beat the Padres or the Mets, if
they get there, it'll be one of those two teams
or the Dodgers. That seems like a realistic foe, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Well, they played a whole one hundred and sixty two
game season, unlike the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Or the Astros.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Yeah, but those two fan bases sitting there saying, we were, oh,
yes you're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
I thought you meant actually this year you met the
Mickey Mouse year. Yeah, Well, of course, played one hundred
and sixty one games this year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
I thought, that's the ankle. That's more than sixty. I'm sorry, Yeah,
I just you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
The playoffs were still you still had to win multiple
rounds of postseason play.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Here's a question for you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
If this happens much like the Rangers last year in
the World Series, will a Yankee mention something about the
Astros because they just can't help themselves?

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
You know what I'll do with that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Will the person asking the question bring it up, maybe
even before they get to the once they arrive at
the over talking Joel Sherman, Well, somebody, whether it's New
York media or just straight up national media. Yeah, you guys,
it's been a long road. You guys have been to
the playoffs so many times. Aaron, you and Giancarlo helped
carry this team. Garrett, it's great for you all to
be here. I'm glad I'm getting to interview all three

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of you at the same time. How how how much
does this mean to you? And how much how do
you feel about the fact that, well, the Astros weren't
in your way this time? Like, is that a real
It's a real question, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
And the funny thing is the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
Have had their way with the Astros in the regular
season more often than not in the last what three.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Seasons during this time?

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Yeah, I mean, I know there was the comeback by
al Tuove the year that they ended up of what
winning the World's I think that was twenty two, it
might have been the year before.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Just if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
This is now their fourth visit to the ALCS during
the Astros Golden era. Well, they haven't won any of
the previous ones.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
And that's because the Astros were standing there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
So now their opportunity without them there seems like a story.
So it doesn't have to be a story, but it
certainly seems like a question. Yeah, so yeah, I think
the Astros will get brought up. They'll get brought up
on the broadcasts. They'll get brought up when they're in
the studio and when they're at the games, pre post
and all the others.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
So yeah, having been eliminated in two wild Card games
and not even a part of the prior round, you're
gonna get to the ALCS and somebody in a national
television position is gonna bring up the Astros again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Maybe not to Boone or them specifically, but while oh
just talking about the last seven years, eater talking about it. Yeah,
I think it'll come up like, oh finally something different,
to different flavor.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I actually think it'll be more about what you brought
up this entire segment. You know what, even though the
Astros clearly were not what they once have been, they
were an eighty eight win team, they won a division
that didn't have another team in the postseason, they didn't
have to they didn't have to get past them, even
though this screams this was the year they would have
could have likely would be favored heavily to beat them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
And how much sweeter it would it have been if
this is the worst version of the Astros they had
to offer and you still couldn't beat them with Juan Soto.
That's the thing though, nobody wanted any part of Juan
Soto in the postseason on the Astros squad.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
And maybe that's how whoever you've asked about it will
answer it. Well, Well, we have we got we got
a clubhouse. A guy right here names one he beat
these guys in the place. Maybe Bill, he's still twenty
one years old. Yeah, probably that's what Joe Buck would
have said.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Yeah, I again, I keep an eye on it, which
is more than I thought I would do. I can't
bring nice to love to watch it. The Astros are
lovedy there's something they're paying attention to. We'll say that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
We've got one more hour in the week and it
begins next here on the A.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Team, The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety two
lifelong Houston sports guys named Adham Talking Your Teams series,
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
How about we talk a little football on the A Team.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Football at five has found its home here as it
does each and every weekday afternoon on the A Team
at five o'clock right here on Sports Talk seven to
ninety and of course we continue to sim will cast
on Space City Home Network most of the angles of
the Texans game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
I hope we've had a chance to at.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Least talk about a little bit to change quarterback for
the Patriots, which I hope most people realize gives them
a better chance to beat the Texans, not a worst chance.
Despite what the Texans defense might do to him, I
think he's actually capable of doing things to them. Injury
report says no injury designation on Damian Pierce. He'll make

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his presence known, hopefully, with the Texans, and in the
case of Joe Mixon, he practiced yesterday limited, he practiced
again today limited. He is listed as questionable. Watching him
move via video from those that were there yesterday and today,
I was not there just Wednesday certainly gives me the

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thought that he is going to be out there and
playing talking about Joe Mixon, but probably not for anywhere
near the thirty carries worth of work he got against
the Indianapolis Colts. I was both unhappy and happy that
he showed his frustration with the manner in which he
goot sideline the hip drop tackle, and how it's been
dealt with in the league, which to say, not at

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all in games.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
And I'm being serious.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
If you hip drop tackle somebody in a game in
the NFL in twenty twenty four, they don't do any
to you during the game. And for something that was
deemed to be illegal and banned as a form of tackling,
I would hope that they would realize a deterrent would
be to do something about it in game. I recognize
the difficulty in making that call as an official in

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the moment at that speed, but there's the same difficulty
with pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, et cetera. And
they make those calls all the time and everyone freaks
out about it. So let us freak out about this.
Make the call when it seems like it's out there.
Wouldn't have hastened his return, It wouldn't have kept him
on the field, But I do think it would help

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limit how often it's seen if the player is penalized,
the other team catches a benefit and the coach has
to deal with the fact that a player just got
hit with a personal foul. But back to the game itself,
Texans going is about a touchdown favorite. I think this
is one of the games this year they should be
on the right side of that number. It's only happened
once so far. I've mentioned a couple times how CJ.

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Stroud's Texans through his first twenty regular season starts, and
I guess you could definitely carry it into his two
postseason starts. They've definitely been a different offense at home
at Energy Stadium, very comfortable. Three hundred plus yard passing
games are the norm. In the fact that he's averaging
over three hundred yards per game passing at home in
his career and they're just not the same. Got about

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a fifteen point passer rating difference, and I'll illustrate that
by saying his passer rating at home would basically be first, second,
or third in the NFL in any given year, his
passer rating on the road would be somewhere in the
twenties eighteen, nineteen twenty, at about ninety one point seven.
That's a pretty significant difference in who you are, and
Nico Collins, unfortunately, is the very same way.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
His numbers at.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Home are absolutely astronomical. He's not going to play at
all in this game on the road. I did not
realize this, and I saw this in one of the
Texan sets of notes. Tek Dell has had a pretty
good start to his career. It was obviously curtailed bit
by his not being available when he got hurt last year,

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and then last week he obviously missed another game, and
he's probably not quite at one hundred percent with that
chest injury. But if tank Dell has one hundred and
thirty one yards receiving this weekend against the Patriots, he's
gonna break the franchise record for most receiving yards through
a player's first sixteen games. He'll break a record held
by Pro Football Hall of Famer Andre Johnson. Where is

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Nico Collins his first sixteen games? I know, well, as
a first sixteen games, I bet you Nico Collins had
about maybe seven or eight hundred yards total, and they
were much more spread out because of injuries. Yeah, he
just was not the player. I mean he played fifteen
games his first two years, which got him or excuse me,

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he played his sixteen game would have been the second
game of twenty twenty two, and he would have been
in the neighborhood of five hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
So this is about twice that. So and that was
all of Andre's rookie season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
He had nine hundred seventy six yards, played all sixteen
games his first year.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
See I knew I sounded smart earlier when I said
he was due for a breakout game pause.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
He's just pointing it out. They're not saying it's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
In one hundred and thirty one yards is what the
toe was, right, that is. I mean, that's a that's
a Nico Collins type game here in twenty twenty four.
But again this is CJ has been able to rack
up the passing yards the last two weeks, even though
it hasn't felt like he was.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
That's true, and he is a different player, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
That's gonna be one of those things that starts getting
attached to him if they find a way to lose
a game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
I guess four and five over that same stretch in
his twenty starts, four and five on the road, nine
and two at home, and one in one. Obviously in
the postseason, in those very same scenarios, Techdell's had two
games of better than one hundred and thirty one yards receiving.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
One of them did come on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
That came in the first ever win for CJ Strauda
in the Texans Game three of last year. If you
recall at a great play down the middle in track
I think just shy of a really long touchdown catch,
and then one of the most well designed and executed
plays of the entire season came later in the game
when Tank Dell. I don't know how they got fooled

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by it as badly as they did. He ended up
basically just running down the right side of the field
and CJ didn't even have to make a pinpoint pass,
just kind of floated up there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
He ran under it and ran it in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
And part of a huge, huge day. You know, we're
all is this kind of like what we were talking
about with Gory. I'm getting the same feeling. The Texans
were four and one, but our expectations were They're gonna
blow people out, their offense is gonna be great, So
there's some disappointment and how they've reached for and a one.
So the expectation is where I'm drawing the comparison. The
expectation is, well, Tank Dell's gonna go off this week.

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I fully am behind. I absolutely visualize, of course it's
gonna happen. But I mean, why should I Why do
I feel so strongly about that?

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Well, because if you said that about Stefan Diggs, then
everybody would be expecting that because he's clear wider ever
one and Nico's out, so he's automatically gonna get the
you know, the yardage that Nico would have gotten, gonna
automatically go to him, which is the dumbest thing you
could ever think.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
It's gonna go somewhere, and it obviously was addressed over
the course of the week with Dimiko and their offensive
coordinator Bobby Slowk We'll start with some of the sound
there about.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Spreading out the wealth.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
It's not only on just one guy to pick up
the slack in Nico's absence from Dimiko, who's a Nico.

Speaker 12 (01:29:24):
Everybody has to get going. So we need everybody, right,
everybody has to step up and own their role. So
we'll see who that'll be for Sunday. We don't know
right now today. Who's gonna make those plays. You never know,
And that's what's exciting about our game. Any given Sunday,
different guys being played maker step and they'll make it plays.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
I mean, that's and that's been his mantra since he
got here. Got now more so about the part about
stepping up, because I mean, when nothing was expected of
this team last year, that's what you were getting. But
you know, in a situation like this where nik was
great last year and then seemingly took even another step

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this year, you do you need somebody to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
And it sounds.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Ridiculous because they've got Stefan Diggs in the offseason and
they have Tank Dell back from his injury last year.
But that's that's where this game when you don't have
a Nico Collins that's where that's gonna come into play.
And I think the fact that Joe Mixon his back
kind of softens the blow of Okay, what are we
gonna do here? Like there's there's more options. He's back.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
I mean, come, you made the announcement yesterday either ahead
of the game.

Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
I know the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Announcement is not official, but he's listed as questionable and
he is definitely trending towards being active for this game.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Uh Dibiko.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Ryan's continuing on this thought about the player stepping up,
asked and answered about possibility for a number nineteen.

Speaker 12 (01:30:45):
Xavier Hutchinson Huts has definitely gotten better through from training
cam through now till now only. He made two big
catches for us in the game this past week, and
he's done a great job blocking was we asked him
him in the in the running game, he stepped up
in block whell. So you know he's maximized as opportunities
as he's continued to show growth and continuing to get better.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
So expect the same thing from him.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Again this last week.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Most of the game, after his second quarter touchdown nine
snaps for Nico Collins, most of the game was played
without him offensively, Stefan Diggs on the field for eighty
seven percent of the snaps fifty nine plays. Take Dell
on the field for sixty eight percent of the snaps
forty six plays, and in between was where Hutch was.
He was on the field for seventy one percent of

(01:31:30):
their offensive snaps forty eight of them, had two catches
for thirty one yards. Tomko mentioned it there the OC
Bobby Slowick meets with the media along with the other
DC and special teams coordinator Matt Burke and Frank Ross.
But Bobby Sloweck did also comment on this scenario and
what they have at their disposal and where things might
go with the football.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
So his commentary a little bit more on Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 7 (01:31:54):
Honestly, the same stuff he's been doing. You know, he's
one of the best separators we have. He's really good
regardless of leverage he has in man coverage, he's one
of the better people I've seen at beating leverage where
they don't want to be beat, you know. And then
at the top of routes, he's extremely explosive. He's good
with the ball in his hands. Probably this year actually,
I think he's been the most efficient ball in the

(01:32:16):
hands receiver we have as far as yards and the
yards that are available and what he's getting. So he's
just going to continue to grow on the offense as
we keep going through the year, and it'll be fun
fun ride.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Mean, I don't think everybody's sitting here is expecting him
to be a fun Nico Collins list ride, but that's
essentially what he's saying there. Twenty four catches for two
hundred and fourteen yards for Stefan Diggs last year, final
five games as Buffalo was phasing him out and basically
telling him to go ahead and request a trade. Twenty

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four catches, two hundred and fourteen yards. He did not
find the end zone even one time during that five
game stretch. Now here with Houston, seven more catches, one
hundred more yards, thirty one catches, three hundred and fifteen yards,
two scores, and the first rushing touchdown of his career,
and he almost well he wouldn't have also had a
rushing touchdown, but he almost threw a touchdown pass to CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Stround.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Why why does it feel like you were gonna get
Stefan Diggs here in the offseason. He was going to
be the guy to put up big, big numbers. And
it's not that he hasn't put up good numbers, but
it's just, I mean, over two hundred yards more receiving
for Nico Collins, and again he's better than the rest
of the league.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
It's not just on his own team. Does that surprise you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Doesn't surprise me at all. But it's a good topic
for us to carry over into the next segment. Here
on the five o'clock hour, Stefan Diggs, where has he
been versus your expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
The eighteen On Sports Talk seven ninety Adam Clinton had Adam,
wait for it, the eight team.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
So you went over the numbers last segment. I've got more.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
Oh, of course you do. I had no doubt, no
doubt in my mind. One number I didn't mention.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
I gave everybody for those that were listening last segment,
and if you were, might even enhance your chances to
win tickets later in the show, because we only give
tickets away to people who've been listening to the show
and have heard something we've said, and thus they can
answer the question we ask that's coming in the final
segment of the show. By the way, let's go see
monster jam with pit passes. Four pack of tickets should
be good. Five games to close out his Buffalo career

(01:34:28):
versus the five games to start his text and career,
and clearly an uptick.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
In usage and production here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
But what I didn't mention is in those ten regular
season games, his last ten regular season games, the team
that Stefan Diggs was playing for is nine to one.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Interesting, do you think Buffalo could have used him last week?
Just They definitely could have.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Used him last week, and they're probably in a similar
situation this week. They have an extra day, but maybe
James Cook's not available. I don't know that they're getting
Khalil Shakir back. But we'll refocus here on the Texans,
who might have a two game lead with the tiebreaker
and hand over Buffalo. After Monday night's game with the Jets,
Bills would be back at three and three, Jets would
be up to three and three, and they'd be tied

(01:35:12):
for the best record in their division. And clearly, if
the Texans beat the Patriots, they don't have a two
game lead over both of them. With a game against
the Jets coming up later this month to close out
the month, the numbers. I wanted to add to the
discussion because you brought up the idea about expectations. Steffan
Diggs comes over and agrees to restructure his deal into

(01:35:32):
a one year deal, fits in with this offense, comes
here to play with CJ. Comes here to play with
the team. It probably has as good a chance to
win in the AFC as the team he left. But
he was gonna leave them anyway, because, as we told you,
I think the manner in which they started to use
them last year was basically telling him they didn't want
him there anymore, and he obliged by saying, all right,
let's move on. So do the expectations you had for

(01:35:55):
Stefan Diggs in a Texans uniform have they matched that?
Did you think he was going to be a clear
target eater, the guy that CJ would be looking at
all the time, the guy that we'd be scoring in
the red zone, the guy that would just have the
most yards, the most catch, whatever the case may be.
Do they match what he's done this year? Before I
give my answer, just point out a couple of things
about his season of three hundred and fifteen yards on

(01:36:17):
forty one targets, with thirty one receptions. Thirty one receptions,
that's one fewer than Nico Collins. Nico obviously missed two
quarters of the last game. The thirty one catches also
has him among just a handful of receivers who even
have thirty catches, and one of them just happened last
night dk metcalf. There's eight players that have thirty one

(01:36:38):
or more catches heading into the week, not counting Dky.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
He's one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
He's still a high volume receivers three hundred and fifteen
yards or closer to the bottom of that list sixty
three yards per game. But what else is up near
the top of the list, Which is the one thing
for sure that meets my expectations. He's a chain mover.
He is a drive continuer. He helps you put points
on the board. He's gonna get you the necessary yards.

(01:37:02):
He's just gonna find a way. If you got a
third and nine, he'll get you eleven. If it's third
and seven, he'll run a seven yard route or a
five yard route where he knows he's got three more
yards to get Number one in the NFL in receptions
resulting in first downs lest teammate Nico Collins, twenty seven
of his thirty two catches have resulted in any first down,
fifth in the NFL and most receptions resulting in a

(01:37:25):
first down is Steph Diggs, fifth in the NFL with
just thirty one catches, nineteen of them have been resulted
in a first down, with Nico opposite him most of
that time. Yep, but it shows you that CJ is
throwing past the sticks a lot to his wide receivers.
They've been in some awful third down distant situations this year,
thanks offensive line. It's a miracle, and they have one.

(01:37:48):
He wears number seven, just like the other two people
in studio with me today are he's the best quarterback
based on PFF numbers on third and fourth down. And
it's not because they're they're facing third and four easy
situations to disguise your play calls, because you don't know
if you're running or running twelve, and they keep converting.
Their third down success rate is way higher than you
would expect it to be based on the numbers they're facing.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
But again that's CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
So to me, now my answer, watching what they did
in training camp, he did go throw a lot of
balls to Stefan in one on one drills, obviously you're
throwing the ball to him, but when they're playing seven
on seven and run eleven on eleven, when they have
joint practice, he definitely was looking his way. I felt
all along that was so he could create more of

(01:38:33):
a connection with a player, the only player basically besides
Joe Mixon he was going to throw the football this
year too, that he wasn't already throwing the ball to
the year before. Everybody else essentially was going to be back.
And he'd had a relationship with and he practiced with
him before, and he's going into year two with But
I never thought it was at the expense of Nico,
because when he would throw it to Nico, it's literally

(01:38:54):
exactly what we're saying through the five games of the season,
Nico for twenty, Nico for thirty, Nico getting one on
one coverage and there he is deep down the field
for another fifty plus yard catch. I think Stefan personally
has been exactly what I thought he would be, Exactly
what I thought he'd provide this team.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
He has been.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
I don't want to say he's undercut expectations for me,
because I didn't know what to expect. Like if Nico
Collins is fresh off assigning that contract and he's younger
and all the things that go into being an advantage
for him, then it's okay. You know, it's fine with me.
I think what is alarming in a good way to me?

(01:39:34):
You have the best of intentions when you bring in
a guy like this of spreading the wealth, and you
can even sit down after getting him, like forget before
he got here, All right, let's do this, let's do that.
Oh we got Steph Diggs. Okay, we got to change
things up a little bit. Best case scenario, best laid plans,
all that kind of stuff, and you sit down and
you actually try to design it. If you had done
all of that and it went according to plan, I

(01:39:56):
still don't know if it could have actually on paper,
in the stats and all that kind of stuff on
the field been as evenly distributed, because yeah, he has
over two hundred more yards to earn fifty more yards,
but the equal distribution and then the drop off for
everybody else, Like okay, Tank Dell, he only has twenty

(01:40:16):
one compared to forty five and forty one targets respectively.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Of those other two.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
But look at Dalton Schultz has twenty two, Like that's
even close. So even your second tier guys, Bobby Slowig Dimiko,
whoever is in charge of this the most on the
offensive staff.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
I'm sure it's a collective thing. I'm not trying to
give Bill O'Brien.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
Yeah, it's just like he's doing a good job of
spring wealth.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Now I get done saying all that. You get done
saying everything.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
It's gonna get skewed now because Nico's out. But I mean,
you couldn't have drawn it up literally drawn it up
better if you're trying to spread the wealth and all
this as everybody's complaining because they're not scoring enough and
the games are too close as their form one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Yeah, almost all of his yards coming after the absence
of Nico a week ago and the one pass interception. Actually,
Brian Baldinger did a really nice review of that play
Baldi's breakdowns on the old X platform.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
We had kind of questioned what was the intent there?

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Where was he trying to go with the football and
was there a DIGS miscommunication with him and where he
was supposed to be? Did CJ make a poor throw
and if what he analyzed was correct, and I went
back and watched it as he did it, and watched
it elsewhere. I don't see how his analysis could have
been wrong. What happened was was great defensive play call
on a tremendous execution by the two linebackers out there.

(01:41:33):
The linebacker who picked off the pass Bernard, was not
defending Stefan Diggs. Initially, he was going across the field
with Dalton Schultz, and with his back turned to c J. Stroud,
he handed him off to Williams and then spun the
other way and ran in Diggs direction, who was at
the time absolutely wide open, and CJ had just let

(01:41:56):
go of the football. He turned around, and now it
kind of looked like, well, why do you throw a
right at Bernard because he wasn't there. I don't think
the throw was good because I actually think it was
turned out to be behind it Digs. But the reason
why the ball got picked off, rather than just maybe
was a good catch by Digs or knocked down or
something like that, was because the Bills just ran a
really good scheme against him. They disguised their coverage tremendously well.

(01:42:19):
Doesn't happen often to CEJ but it did there, and
obviously on an attempt to digs one of the eight targets,
that one ended up going the other way. Texans defense
stood up and there are no points allowed after that,
and Texans still ended up in a reasonably good situation
despite the fact you threw that interception with just that
three point lead there in the fourth quarter, you really

(01:42:39):
gave the Bills a great chance to not only get
the game tied, which they didn't there, but potentially go
in front because of your own mistakes. That's what we
haven't talked about yet all week. Stop losing the turnover battle.
Stop not forcing turnovers. You can't go four straight games
without a turnover, and that's what they're facing if they
don't turn Drake May and the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Over well, and this is the perfect recipe to do that,
given the circumstances who's involved on the other side as
far as the quarterback and all that. But we both
thought that they were going to end Josh Allen streak
of you know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Yeah, I wish in I wish he would have thrown
the ball to as he's el Shaier twice first time.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
That shouldn't have been a pick.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
He just made a really nice play on that scene
route to concaid something I don't think any of their
linebackers heck, maybe ever, but certainly not last year's crew.
That's a play that they don't make. And then on
a scramble he threw across his body and so it
wasn't even a beabie. It was more catchable. Even for
the lot did that, We say, well, that's why they
played defense because they can't catch. I think he'd like

(01:43:43):
to have that one back. I think he'd probably like
to have his ten pounds back. Also that he lost
between Friday and Sunday. Man I said it before earlier
in the week. I can't believe it after he went
through all that from how did we get this win
on defense kind of way? That was his best game
and he played really well the first four weeks, I'll
share was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Maybe maybe there's something to that, since you know, uh
Dream used to put up his best numbers during Ramadan, Like,
just why is it that players It's not just that
there's yeah, but these are the elite athletes playing this game.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
They're playing at the highest level, they're winning. The ultimate
problems trying to stop them.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
Yeah, someone's trying to stop them is right in both cases,
and they're putting up these types of performances.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
They're crazy, really good. Yeah, by the way, we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Have an interview next week about Hakim Elijauan. You guys
are not gonna want to miss, but you're not gonna
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Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Gods, this is the part of the show where we
remind you things we've not yet talked about enough for
things we haven't talked about at all. But we have
a couple things to get to here before we get
into those items.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
One of those.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Things before we get to kJ on the phones is
you brought up their Texans their inability to win in
New England regular season five and oh New England Patriots
against the Houston Texans at your late stadium there in Foxborough,
and two and zero in the postseason. So the Texans
all time mark at New England heading into this game

(01:46:31):
at New England is o and seven.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Take with that what you will.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
They are one of nine teams in the NFL that
hasn't won a game there in the regular season, so.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
We'll see that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Wait, ever, I'm sorry since the stadium opened in two
thousand and two, so not ever.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
That's still horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:46:52):
That is nine now that coincided with the greatest era
of NFL football.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Ever, obviously, So yeah, seven trips to to Foxborough, seven
trips to play the Patriots on the road, and no
victory is for us.

Speaker 4 (01:47:06):
Why I say if the Texans win the Super Bowl,
that stadium talk is gonna start right away.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Well, Brady got the first ring. We gotta build this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
That is possibly coming up later and in case you
missed it, something about what you just said. But let's
get to the phones here as promised, and head out
to let kJ in on the program. Appreciate your patients, kJ,
sorry for that, and welcome in.

Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
What are you up?

Speaker 9 (01:47:27):
Oh what a fellas man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
But listen, y'all guy.

Speaker 9 (01:47:29):
For years man, appreciate real quick. I kind of equate
the Texans ugly four on one record. I'll be his
for in one and this is I'm a dollard Texas plan.
I kind of equate their record till you've been a
struggling Hollywood actor and you backed Tory Speller.

Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:47:48):
You have all the connections with her name and her
family and all the prestige that comes with being associated
with the spellings, But from the neck up you kind
of leave a lot to be desired. And that's the text.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
They win.

Speaker 9 (01:48:01):
Yes, granted they're winning anybody that Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
Here's where I'm torn.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
It is Friday, and it's in the five o'clock hour,
and I want to ask you something, so I will.
Did it take you a long time to settle in
on that as the person you wanted to suggest for
the Texans?

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Or did you Butterface has a dad who's a famous executive.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
That's what he's saying. I think that's I think we
get it. He's calling her a butter face. But I
don't want to leave it there.

Speaker 13 (01:48:31):
First one, yeah, she had a rec up from the
neck up, but the whole time, But the whole time
you see a wait for Jennifer Garner to walk in
the room, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 9 (01:48:45):
We've all had the we've all had jobs and if
you guys probably have one now, but was a p
and if you have leadership, the temperature in the room,
the standard, the blueprint for how things are donald said
by your leader. Jeremy is the leader that offensive line
and everything starts. And I know it sounds cliche, but
having played football as long as I.

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
Did, it's a standard.

Speaker 9 (01:49:07):
That offensive line is only going to go as far
as that leader takes takes them.

Speaker 5 (01:49:11):
Laramie Tonsel, you don't go.

Speaker 9 (01:49:12):
To a steakhouse and get asked for a steak of
potato and they only bring your potato, but you still
play poor price. Laramie Tuntu is a pass blocker only,
yet we're still keep putting this elite label on him.
And I know what PFF says about it, but you're
not elite to me if you're only doing half your
job and you set the tone with the rest of
that offensive line. The offense struggle when the offensive line

(01:49:34):
does to perform. Obviously, the running game is struggling, so
forth and so on. The defense, to some degree struggle
because we're not able to sustain drives consistently, primarily in
the second ad because the offense is getting off the
field quickly. I know a lot of this is body slower.
I'm not saying the onus of the Texan's issues is
Laramie Tuntu. But I do put a lot of blame

(01:49:57):
when it comes to the poor player of the offensive
line on because if he comes out there and plays
like a mall up, what's just as much effort in
clearing holes as he does and trying to keep CJ upright.
Everybody else that's under him would follow suit. I'm buying
into that he's gonna have to sit the throne on
that line.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
You have to start back to you guys. Man love
to show with.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Jad's sake, clearly you have our number, so feel free
to use it for any time.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
Laramie Hunsel to Tory spelling, that guy is a man
after my own heart.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Some of the things he said about Laramie are things
I think people have heard here, and he's right, and
it's not about like he is an elite pass blocking
left tackle and you've got only quarterbacks, so it's extremely
important that he's out there. He's not a great run blocker.
He's this team as a unit, not a great run
blocking team. And then from the leadership standpoint, yeah, I

(01:50:49):
do think that they're going to follow the lead of
their leader, and he is that uh mentioned it earlier
in the show, and in case you missed it, we
should mention it again. Both Laramie Unssel and Titus Howard
missed sometime practice this week and some game time over
the last couple of weeks. Both are without an injury
designation this week, so the expectations they will both be
at their respective tackle positions for the beginning of this

(01:51:10):
game against the Patriots. In moving forward, Also, if Blake
Fisher is asked to spell them at any point due
to injury or otherwise, He's now had playing time at
both spots over the last two weeks. A couple snaps
for LT two weeks ago, all the snaps for Titus
a week ago, and the numbers don't lie from a
penalty standpoint, and the unit as a whole, the offensive

(01:51:31):
line far far too many of them. LT still leads
the league individually, and the Texans still lead the NFL
as a group forty seven penalties, not all offensive line,
but forty seven penalties as a team through five NFL games.
That's way, way, way, one more way too many for
the Texans. But I'll have a Tory spelling on the
brain probably for a little bit. Now, what else have

(01:51:52):
we missed Dan.

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
Maybe I'm on an island here, but tory spelling does
it for me?

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
You're on an is a so maybe it's and it's
like it's a bad island. It's a bad, bad island.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
What's your favorite episode of that show? Donna Martin graduates. Clearly,
my favorite episode is when she got nevermind? What else
do you have for us besides that?

Speaker 5 (01:52:11):
All right?

Speaker 11 (01:52:12):
So, speaking of the Texans and Patriots this week, a
former Patriot, Devin mccordy, friend of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:52:17):
Actually we had him on earlier this year.

Speaker 11 (01:52:19):
He wrote on Twitter earlier this week, wish they would
have made Houston figure this out on game day?

Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
What is this? Who's gonna start at quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
That's a long standing Why bother telling him? If we
don't have to, Drake may is gonna get all the
number one reps Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, He doesn't have to
tell the media. The media has a small window of viewing.
They might not notice for what they get to see,
and if you're trying to keep it a secret, you
would clearly have them leaving practice before any of those
things would take place. I always think it's chrisp unless

(01:52:52):
there's some dramatic difference in their playing style and they're
both established, which is not the case here.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
I don't think it makes a bit of difference.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
And Demiko, whether it's just a public acknowledgment or he
believes it, they're gonna play the way they're gonna play.
They're gonna go after him the same they would go
after any the other quarterback. They're gonna change their game
plan over the course of the game. If they're just
finding out Drake May's out there, Yeah, they're probably gonna
dial it up a little bit more, adding an additional
rusher here.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
And there with a blitzes.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
But they're probably gonna blitz the Patriots twenty five to
thirty percent of the time, and then when the Patriots
become led by Drake may Well, then that number is
probably getting bumped up to forty, just like it did
against Caleb Williams, the team they've blitzed the most this.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
Year and had the most success.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
I don't unless you said the playing styles different.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Like a Lamar Jackson versus a Joe Flacco when they
were both in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Yeah, well that was an.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
If they went into the week after Lamar Jackson came
in for or replaced him, and you didn't know who
was starting the following week.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
They say they were both healthy. That might be a
little different.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
And I realized that the level, the caliber of quarterback
that we're talking about has something to do with this.
But honestly, that's just that's right down the alley of
get yourself ready to play football and do what you
do and make them react to it. And you're not
worried about things like that. You're probably one step ahead
of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
First two comments to the mccordy tweet that Dan brought up.
First one, hate to say it, but Mayo doesn't seem
ready for the big job.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Probably a little much there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Second one, reporters will see him taking the first team
reps as in.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
They know anyway, That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
We shall see final segment of the show here on
the A Team that is next.

Speaker 6 (01:54:38):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:54:43):
Hey, it's Blommer.

Speaker 14 (01:54:45):
The eighteen continues with Adam Clinton and Adam wexlerby. There's
more asses on this show than a certain mix, a
lot of video.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
I like, your mother would not be proud right now.

Speaker 5 (01:54:58):
Baby's got those hot ta.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Week one more go around this week.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
This is the time where we give you an opportunity
here on the A team on Sports Talk seven ninety
and simulcast on Space City Home Network to go enjoy
something tickets to give away here. If you've been listening
to the show, you'll know the answer to this question,
and if you'd like to win tickets a four pack
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(01:55:27):
from Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
You can.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
Tickets are also on selle Now, ticketmaster dot com. If
you've been listening to the show, you don't know the
answer to this question, you might know it anyway, but
presumably you know it because we've told you this and
it didn't happen that long ago that it came up
on the show. A trip to go play the Patriots
on the road has been unkind, to say the least
for the Houston Texans, seeing him a couple times in
the postseason a few more times during the regular season.

(01:55:51):
All told, what is the Texans all time record on
the road at the Patriots? Texts have only been around
since two thousand and two. What's their all time record?
On the road at the Patriots. If you know the
answer to that question, which we told you earlier on
the show seven one three two one two five seven
ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety

(01:56:12):
in the pit passes and the four pack of tickets
to Monster Jam eight days from now, are yours? You
can join our previous winners out there. Aaron, Terry, Steve another.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
That's a quick turnaround on this answer.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
Uh yeah, I mean sometimes I'm curious as we roll
through a show, what should we ask them about? What
something hilarious or obvious or a point we made a
couple of times on the show are usually good things
to go with? Or I say to myself, let me
make sure I say something this particular segment that I
can spin back around and ask them about.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
All right, good luck to everybody involved.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
If you are unaware, though we did mention it with
our guest yesterday, Alex from Alex Barth from Sports Up
ninety eight five in Boston. This is one of the
games where the Patriots will be wearing their throwback uniforms.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
Well, so those are the red tops. I believe they
don't have to be, but they are.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
They have different combinations they'll be going if the white
helmet and the red tops are what they're going with
this week. I bring it up only to say it
will be the eleventh time they've gone throwback.

Speaker 7 (01:57:12):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
They won the first seven of those games in the throwbacks,
and then I'm not sure what changed.

Speaker 3 (01:57:19):
They've lost their last three and when were those played?

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Sometime more recently in twenty twenty two and twenty three twice.

Speaker 4 (01:57:28):
Okay, so after Tom Brady left and stopped being the
best quarterback in NFL history, blah blah blah, blah blah,
they mysteriously stopped winning games in those unis.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
From two thousand and nine to twenty twelve, they won
all five of the games in their throwback jerseys.

Speaker 4 (01:57:46):
Interesting, and it's just one random years there. I wonder
who the quarterback was.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
Maybe it was Matt Castle, maybe it was Jacoby Brissett,
maybe it was Jimmy Garoppolo.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
I am Mallett. Didn't he get a start in New England?

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
I don't believe so, not necessarily during that era field time,
but remember Brady got hurt when his leg got run
into by Bernie and that was pretty much it for
his time.

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
Missed other than to Flake games right now, address him properly.
I loved all the time Bernard Pollard.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
That subject because the NFLPA has brought that up was
also brought up by Travis and Jason Kelsey on their
most recent podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
No Hits on Quarterbacks Are Being Naked.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
The idea that people are well, they actually brought up
one of Jason Kelsey's former teammates is Tory Smith.

Speaker 5 (01:58:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
I don't know if you saw Tory Smith's locker room
related tweet on the subject.

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
I don't know. I did not.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
It was directed at the reporters, male reporters, and he
was noticing what he thought a lot of them were
doing in there, So they brought up that fact. He's like,
first of all, for Jason, super self deprecating, saying, I
don't know why anybody would be in there wanting to
do that, but whatever, and what were they doing? Looking really? Yes,

(01:59:03):
according to Torry Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:59:05):
Well, I mean that's an observation that's I would think,
but fairly obvious if you're going to talk about it
publicly and social.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Angle I was attempting to take was it is pretty easy. Well, yeah,
to avoid even the opportunity for anybody in the locker
room to see or look because you can wear a
towel or pants. I'm not asking you to get dressed
somewhere else. That is a little bit of too much

(01:59:33):
to ask. This is their locker room. This happens to
be their dressing room. But it's not like I'll tell
you there's a big To me, there's been a big
difference from when I first started covering this team just
we'll mention them two thousand and two, and I've covered
them every year they've been here. What it looked like
in the locker room in two thousand and two, three, four, five, six,
versus what it's looked like the last five years from
that standpoint, only totally different. You know, hardly anybody walks

(01:59:58):
around in that manner, like literally almost nobody. I can't
even remember seeing someone who wasn't already covered up, not
just completely, whether it was a big towel, small whatever.
But in the earlier years of this franchise, and obviously
twenty years ago around the NFL, and I've been in
visitor locker rooms as well, it was different.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
It was much more obvious. Might do an impression real quick,
you're ready for this, You're gonna get it right away.
Who am I, guys, let's hang on until he gets
his shirt on. Well that shout out Kevin Cooper.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
Baby, Well that's a Texans policy and I can totally
respect that. But yeah, back then it was it was
more I was more concerned because now there's so many things.

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
I better be in the right place.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
At that time, I wasn't holding a camera or a
phone because it was two thousand and two. But now
that's much and this is still I think people are
missing that. That's actually somewhat of the point of why
they've brought this up, because I think there've already been
instances this year, and there definitely been instances in other
years where phautogs, whether they're holding their camera phone or
they're holding an actual camera, they're shooting something and they

(02:01:02):
don't even realize what's in the background. They have a shower,
and most of the locker rooms have multiple exits and entrances,
whether they're in the middle, one at each end, you
gotta be much more careful than that, or somebody's walking
around in the background, or you're all the way on
the side getting the awesome earshot of somebody. Well, they've
got a teammate dressing right next to them, you better
stop shooting, you better move, or you better be super

(02:01:24):
careful if you plan on using that in any form
on the air or now social media. And I think
that's what the teams. You're completely absolved of any issues
if it never happens.

Speaker 5 (02:01:33):
They're in there.

Speaker 4 (02:01:34):
There is roughly three times the amount of i'll just
call them lenses because they're attached to different things. Then
there were even those handful of years ago. And yeah,
it's there is and this is super inside baseball. But
because of what we're talking about, I have to say it. Yeah,
there's an art form. I'm not even kidding when I

(02:01:54):
say this. There is a Tantino stole. Everybody that's on
this show and everybody that's listening that's in this business
knows what I'm about to say is true. There's an
art form as to how you move about a locker room,
a clubhouse, whatever you want to call it, depending on
the sport you just they're just things that are. They
can be taught, I suppose, but you pick up on

(02:02:17):
them if nothing else over time. If you're worth your salt,
like you just don't aim this that way and you
don't say these things, and you don't go up to
that guy at this time, and you don't go up
to any guy without talking to this person, and some like.

Speaker 3 (02:02:29):
There's just things you do.

Speaker 4 (02:02:31):
And you know everybody makes mistakes when it but if
you make that mistake, now you're in some big trouble
because everybody's seen something they shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (02:02:38):
And that's where I.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
Have texted people in the media to tell them you
need to take that down. I don't know if anybody's
told you yet, but you probably don't want people to
realize that you made a mistake and show you something.

Speaker 4 (02:02:51):
Most if not all of them thankful that you reached
out because they didn't even know in a lot of cases.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
That's what I'm talking about. I don't think there is
in summation Texans Patriots, who do You.

Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
Got definitely the under and I'm gonna take kind of
like what Gordy was talking about. I will take twenty one,
get my over to twenty one to ten Texans the
way under.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
Two of those scores are obviously CJ touchdown passes because
you took the over on that. Yeah, I think the
Texas will put a few more points on the board
wouldn't shock me if they had their season high in points.
But it's gonna be right around that twenty eight to
thirty thirty one number. Patriots will score twice, probably a
touchdown in the field. Yeah, exactly, I'll give it. I'll
give it thirty one to ten.

Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
Okay, Well, we'll see and we'll talk about it on Monday.

Speaker 6 (02:03:38):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety
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