December 5, 2024 • 11 mins
Astros.com/MLB.com's Brian McTaggart joins The A-Team, after he released a report on the Astros 6-year, $156 million dollar contract offer to Alex Bregman. McTaggart talks about why the offer looks the way that it does. Plus, what are some contingency plans for the club, if indeed Bregman is playing elsewhere in 2025?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great to be joined by the great Brian McTaggart Astros
dot com, MLB dot Com beat writer for your local nine,
as he has been for a long long time. This
offseason was likely to go as it has Brian, with
us wondering what the endgame will be for third baseman
Alex Bregman, quite honestly, what the landscape of free agency
would look like league wide. I know there are meetings
(00:22):
scheduled for the Monday through Thursday portion of next week.
You reported today a formal offer has been made to
Alex Bregman. Where do you think things are? And know
what what do you think about that offer?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, I think the Astros have sort of been wait
and see mode.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But realistically, I mean, I think most people in the
organization think they're they're just not gonna be able to
get to a point in years or money that they'll
be able to resign him. And I think they're, you know,
they're gonna wait to see what shakes out over the
next week. We get to Dallas, you know, when Soto signs,
and it seems like that could come here sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I think the market will shake for you a little.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Bit, and you know, Bregman's the next big name on
the market as far as position players, but I still
think the money in the years are going to be
too much. I mean, Crane a couple of weeks ago,
you know, reiterated his stance, and you know it's the
stance's work for him where he doesn't give out these massive,
long term ten, eight, nine year deals for hundreds of million.
You know, he's never done it and they just continue
(01:23):
to win. So you know, he'd rather somebody else pay
Alex Bregman when he's twenty eight or thirty eight, thirty
nine years old.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I think in the next week we'll know a
lot more.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
You know, not to put you completely on the spot,
but I'm going to I think that's kind of the
next The next natural place to go is to ask you.
I mean, you've seen this guy every single game, You've
covered him his entire career as an astro. If two
hundred million is the magic number, so to speak, here
is Alex Bregman worth two hundred million dollars?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know that's tough to say. You know, he's a
very good player. He's not what he was teen in nineteen,
probably never will be. But I think the next two
three years, four years of his career. I still think
he could be in an elite third baseman. You know,
you're worth what someone's willing to pay you. But you know,
if he doesn't sign with the Astros, you know they
(02:15):
they could improve their team. If they, you know, sign
a mid level third basement and go out and hit
a home run at first base and spend less money,
they could be better than they were last year. I mean,
everybody wants this core to stay together. You know, jose
Al tub pretty much pleading with him to sign. Bregman
just lets you know how important important he is to
(02:36):
this team. And he is a leader. I mean, you know,
he was in every mound visit. We all know the
stories of him helping out the pitchers this year. He's
a pillar in that clubhouse. All that stuff has to
be factored into it as well. That's not going to
change the Astros philosophy where they're going to all of
a sudden give him two million, two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
To play here the next seven or eight years. Well,
and that's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You know, you just mentioned the contingency plan, which is
in your head line of your article on MLB dot com.
You know, is that the contingency plan or is that
least the the the timeline or the chain of things,
like you do have maybe a stop gap situation or
just you take a hit at third base from a
talent and leadership standpoint, but then you go get you
(03:16):
know what would be a home run at first base
if that were the scenario that were to unfold.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, if they don't sign him, I mean, maybe they
go and get Christian Walker for a couple of years,
who's probably the best free agent first basement on the market,
three time Gold Glove winner. I mean he would fit
very nicely. And then maybe at third base you kind
of patch it together a little bit. You know, one
name I've mentioned a few times with Jorge Polanco who
was with the Maritors last year.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Didn't have a great year. It's coming off surgery. But
you know, he's a.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Guy that maybe you could get eight nine million, you know,
I hope he has a rebound year and then maybe,
you know, at first base, like I said, you know,
make a make a bigger impact deal. Maybe you know,
you look into acquiring someone like you know, gold Schmid,
who's thirty six and on the decline, but maybe you
can get a good year or two out of him,
you know, being back in his hometown.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So there's a lot of ways they can go here.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But you know, the corner infield is their biggest needs,
their biggest need. However, they want to, you know, piece
it together, but they can't wait forever until Bregman. If
this is going to drag out until January, then I
think we'll see them start to make moves to sort
of move on. But once Soto makes his decision, I
think things will move pretty quickly, not only for Bregman,
(04:29):
but I think for the Astros.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Do you think there's a chance they actually signed somebody
to real money before an Alex Bregman decision has been made,
Because you just said if it gets into January, you
know you think they're you would have to move on.
I think if it gets to January and they don't
have a decision on him and they haven't already moved on,
they're in huge trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I mean, I think I think in the next two
weeks will probably know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I mean, they're not They're not gonna wait forever for Bregman.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I mean, I think, like I said earlier, I think
most people in the organization know he's obbly not coming back.
So I don't think it's that big of a stretch
for them to say, Okay, let's let's just go to
our contingency plan here, sign this guy, you know, beef
up some production at first, and then move on at
that point. I mean, if they were if they were
a team that was willing to make a two hundred
and two hundred and forty fifty million dollar offer for Bregman,
(05:16):
and maybe they hang.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
In it longer.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But I mean they're already, you know what, forty five
million dollars short on probably where they need to be
to make a real push for him. So I don't think, yeah,
they're not going to wait very long. I mean, you know,
the next week is going to tell us a lot,
But yeah, they're I think you're right. I mean, I
think by January we're gonna, even if Bregman's still out there,
will know which direction Astros are going, and it won't
(05:38):
be with Alex Bregman.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Brian McTaggart, astros dot com, and willb dot com a
beat writer. Do you think uh soon to be big
brother Knox will be going to more Phoenix Suns games.
Do you think he'll be seeing Celtics games in the future.
Do you think maybe he'll become a Lakers or a
Clippers fan, maybe a Bulls fan, any idea, Maybe a
Raptors fan.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I don't tell me he's gonna go to see home
games at Madison Square Garden, Please God?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
How about the How about the Mets?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
If he goes to New York and he signs with
the Mets, I can at least stomach it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Brian, Yeah, that would be That would be a tough one.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Of all the core players that have left and gone
on to other teams, I think for Astros fans, Bregman,
who's probably at the top of the list of most
beloved next to Altuve, who's not going anywhere, but Bregman
going to the Yankees, I think would be.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Uh, that'd be.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The toughest to swallow. Look, we know he was a
Jeter fan, and one of the reasons he war number two.
His family's got deep ties to Washington Baseball, going back
generations with his grandfather. You know, I think you know
Washington is an up and coming team. The Red Sox
make a lot of sense with that short porch and
left field. I think Bregman needs somewhere where he can
really pull the ball just like Mini made. You know,
(06:51):
he lives and he's spent the last couple offseasons now
in Phoenix, So I don't know if the d Backs
are a big player, but yeah, he was at the
Suns game the other day.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But it's gonna be interest.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And if I had to guess, I would say he
goes somewhere on the East coast. Boston, New York's, Washington
wouldn't completely roll out some other locations, but I think
he'll wind up on the East coast.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Dana Brown has said very clearly about biggest priority being
Alex Bragman. He also acknowledged conversations we're being had with
other free agents here and Justin Verlander, and there's been
a lot of reports about some creative ways to put
the team together next year, which might include Ryan Presley.
So about those two pitchers, do you think the Astros
are truly interested in a deal? Likely very short term?
(07:33):
I'm sure one year with Justin Verlander, and do you
believe there are real opportunities and they'd be interested in
moving Ryan Presley? To a place where he'd obviously accept
and that he can dictate that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, he's got a no trade clause, which makes it
makes it tricky. But yeah, I mean if they if
they need to free up some payroll, you know, I
think Presley is the direction they go. The fact he's
got no trade clause, like I said, makes it a
little more difficult. I think at the end of the day,
he's probably back here. I was told early in the
offseason that they didn't have an interest in bringing back Verlander,
(08:09):
but certainly that's going to come down to money as well.
I mean, if Erlander finds is just not a market
for him, and maybe he comes back to the Astros
on a very friendly deal. I mean, Astros have already
paid him tons of money, a lot of it not
to pitch, so you know, I wouldn't completely rule it out,
but I still think Verlander coming back to Long Shot.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I'll ask you the same question I asked Wex if
Bregman departs and maybe even if the contingency plan, you know,
goes according to plan, and you know, whatever you end
up having, don't the Astros seem like even after all
of that, they'd still be the favorites in twenty twenty
five in the Al West, I.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Think so, I mean, it depends on what, you know,
some of the other teams do in the off season.
But yeah, I mean I think as they stand now,
they're they're the best team. I mean, and they're not
gonna sit here and stand still. I mean, they're gonna
make some moves here to improve themselves. You know, if
they can address the corner infield spots, which they will,
uh maybe they get a center fielder or an outfielder,
(09:09):
uh to you know, beef up that situation. I think
they'll be in the market for a reliever. They could certainly
use another depth starting pitcher probably like every team. So yeah,
I still think they're the team to beat. I mean,
you know, the Rangers have a lot of talent, but uh,
you know, they're gonna lose some of it in free agency.
You know, a lot of those guys were banged up,
you know, some of their you know, like, what are
(09:30):
they going to get out of de gram Voldie's gone.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So unless one of those other teams makes a big.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Splash, I'm talking about the Rangers and the Mariners because
I still don't see the the Angels being a player,
and you know, hey, they signed Sevarino today, so you know,
maybe they're on the uh. Maybe they're gonna start spending
some crazy money going to Sacramento, which is kind of crazy,
But I mean, I still think the Astros are, unless
they completely flub this offseason, are going to be the
class of the aos.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Final thirty seconds for us here, Brian, do you feel
like the meetings coming up next week in Dallas will
start multiple major money deals being agreed to.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I think they will.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I mean, these things have generally been a big bore,
but you know, the stuff I'm reading about Soto seems
like a decision could be coming, you know, maybe by
the end of the weekend, and I think that's really
gonna break the really break things free. Whether the Astros
get involved that earlier or not, I'm not sure. But
you know, we had a deal done today with Severarino,
so maybe, you know, maybe things are starting to happen.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, when everyone in.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Baseball gets together under the same roof and you know,
the the drinks start flowing, things tend to get done.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So we'll see where we're at in a week.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
It's your favorite time of year, the off season. That's
never an off season for you, Brian. We appreciate you
carving out some time on the fly and we'll catch
up very soon.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm sure, all right, Thanks guys. Brian McTaggart.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
MLB dot com is where you can find his work,
including that article on Alex Bregman and or the contingency
plan surrounding the Astros off season.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm a little oppressed now. I'm not even gonna lie
about it.
Great to be joined by the great Brian McTaggart Astros
dot com, MLB dot Com beat writer for your local nine,
as he has been for a long long time. This
offseason was likely to go as it has Brian, with
us wondering what the endgame will be for third baseman
Alex Bregman, quite honestly, what the landscape of free agency
would look like league wide. I know there are meetings
(00:22):
scheduled for the Monday through Thursday portion of next week.
You reported today a formal offer has been made to
Alex Bregman. Where do you think things are? And know
what what do you think about that offer?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, I think the Astros have sort of been wait
and see mode.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But realistically, I mean, I think most people in the
organization think they're they're just not gonna be able to
get to a point in years or money that they'll
be able to resign him. And I think they're, you know,
they're gonna wait to see what shakes out over the
next week. We get to Dallas, you know, when Soto signs,
and it seems like that could come here sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I think the market will shake for you a little.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Bit, and you know, Bregman's the next big name on
the market as far as position players, but I still
think the money in the years are going to be
too much. I mean, Crane a couple of weeks ago,
you know, reiterated his stance, and you know it's the
stance's work for him where he doesn't give out these massive,
long term ten, eight, nine year deals for hundreds of million.
You know, he's never done it and they just continue
(01:23):
to win. So you know, he'd rather somebody else pay
Alex Bregman when he's twenty eight or thirty eight, thirty
nine years old.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I think in the next week we'll know a
lot more.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
You know, not to put you completely on the spot,
but I'm going to I think that's kind of the
next The next natural place to go is to ask you.
I mean, you've seen this guy every single game, You've
covered him his entire career as an astro. If two
hundred million is the magic number, so to speak, here
is Alex Bregman worth two hundred million dollars?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know that's tough to say. You know, he's a
very good player. He's not what he was teen in nineteen,
probably never will be. But I think the next two
three years, four years of his career. I still think
he could be in an elite third baseman. You know,
you're worth what someone's willing to pay you. But you know,
if he doesn't sign with the Astros, you know they
(02:15):
they could improve their team. If they, you know, sign
a mid level third basement and go out and hit
a home run at first base and spend less money,
they could be better than they were last year. I mean,
everybody wants this core to stay together. You know, jose
Al tub pretty much pleading with him to sign. Bregman
just lets you know how important important he is to
(02:36):
this team. And he is a leader. I mean, you know,
he was in every mound visit. We all know the
stories of him helping out the pitchers this year. He's
a pillar in that clubhouse. All that stuff has to
be factored into it as well. That's not going to
change the Astros philosophy where they're going to all of
a sudden give him two million, two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
To play here the next seven or eight years. Well,
and that's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You know, you just mentioned the contingency plan, which is
in your head line of your article on MLB dot com.
You know, is that the contingency plan or is that
least the the the timeline or the chain of things,
like you do have maybe a stop gap situation or
just you take a hit at third base from a
talent and leadership standpoint, but then you go get you
(03:16):
know what would be a home run at first base
if that were the scenario that were to unfold.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, if they don't sign him, I mean, maybe they
go and get Christian Walker for a couple of years,
who's probably the best free agent first basement on the market,
three time Gold Glove winner. I mean he would fit
very nicely. And then maybe at third base you kind
of patch it together a little bit. You know, one
name I've mentioned a few times with Jorge Polanco who
was with the Maritors last year.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Didn't have a great year. It's coming off surgery. But
you know, he's a.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Guy that maybe you could get eight nine million, you know,
I hope he has a rebound year and then maybe,
you know, at first base, like I said, you know,
make a make a bigger impact deal. Maybe you know,
you look into acquiring someone like you know, gold Schmid,
who's thirty six and on the decline, but maybe you
can get a good year or two out of him,
you know, being back in his hometown.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So there's a lot of ways they can go here.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But you know, the corner infield is their biggest needs,
their biggest need. However, they want to, you know, piece
it together, but they can't wait forever until Bregman. If
this is going to drag out until January, then I
think we'll see them start to make moves to sort
of move on. But once Soto makes his decision, I
think things will move pretty quickly, not only for Bregman,
(04:29):
but I think for the Astros.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Do you think there's a chance they actually signed somebody
to real money before an Alex Bregman decision has been made,
Because you just said if it gets into January, you
know you think they're you would have to move on.
I think if it gets to January and they don't
have a decision on him and they haven't already moved on,
they're in huge trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I mean, I think I think in the next two
weeks will probably know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I mean, they're not They're not gonna wait forever for Bregman.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I mean, I think, like I said earlier, I think
most people in the organization know he's obbly not coming back.
So I don't think it's that big of a stretch
for them to say, Okay, let's let's just go to
our contingency plan here, sign this guy, you know, beef
up some production at first, and then move on at
that point. I mean, if they were if they were
a team that was willing to make a two hundred
and two hundred and forty fifty million dollar offer for Bregman,
(05:16):
and maybe they hang.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
In it longer.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But I mean they're already, you know what, forty five
million dollars short on probably where they need to be
to make a real push for him. So I don't think, yeah,
they're not going to wait very long. I mean, you know,
the next week is going to tell us a lot,
But yeah, they're I think you're right. I mean, I
think by January we're gonna, even if Bregman's still out there,
will know which direction Astros are going, and it won't
(05:38):
be with Alex Bregman.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Brian McTaggart, astros dot com, and willb dot com a
beat writer. Do you think uh soon to be big
brother Knox will be going to more Phoenix Suns games.
Do you think he'll be seeing Celtics games in the future.
Do you think maybe he'll become a Lakers or a
Clippers fan, maybe a Bulls fan, any idea, Maybe a
Raptors fan.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I don't tell me he's gonna go to see home
games at Madison Square Garden, Please God?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
How about the How about the Mets?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
If he goes to New York and he signs with
the Mets, I can at least stomach it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Brian, Yeah, that would be That would be a tough one.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Of all the core players that have left and gone
on to other teams, I think for Astros fans, Bregman,
who's probably at the top of the list of most
beloved next to Altuve, who's not going anywhere, but Bregman
going to the Yankees, I think would be.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Uh, that'd be.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The toughest to swallow. Look, we know he was a
Jeter fan, and one of the reasons he war number two.
His family's got deep ties to Washington Baseball, going back
generations with his grandfather. You know, I think you know
Washington is an up and coming team. The Red Sox
make a lot of sense with that short porch and
left field. I think Bregman needs somewhere where he can
really pull the ball just like Mini made. You know,
(06:51):
he lives and he's spent the last couple offseasons now
in Phoenix, So I don't know if the d Backs
are a big player, but yeah, he was at the
Suns game the other day.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But it's gonna be interest.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And if I had to guess, I would say he
goes somewhere on the East coast. Boston, New York's, Washington
wouldn't completely roll out some other locations, but I think
he'll wind up on the East coast.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Dana Brown has said very clearly about biggest priority being
Alex Bragman. He also acknowledged conversations we're being had with
other free agents here and Justin Verlander, and there's been
a lot of reports about some creative ways to put
the team together next year, which might include Ryan Presley.
So about those two pitchers, do you think the Astros
are truly interested in a deal? Likely very short term?
(07:33):
I'm sure one year with Justin Verlander, and do you
believe there are real opportunities and they'd be interested in
moving Ryan Presley? To a place where he'd obviously accept
and that he can dictate that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, he's got a no trade clause, which makes it
makes it tricky. But yeah, I mean if they if
they need to free up some payroll, you know, I
think Presley is the direction they go. The fact he's
got no trade clause, like I said, makes it a
little more difficult. I think at the end of the day,
he's probably back here. I was told early in the
offseason that they didn't have an interest in bringing back Verlander,
(08:09):
but certainly that's going to come down to money as well.
I mean, if Erlander finds is just not a market
for him, and maybe he comes back to the Astros
on a very friendly deal. I mean, Astros have already
paid him tons of money, a lot of it not
to pitch, so you know, I wouldn't completely rule it out,
but I still think Verlander coming back to Long Shot.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I'll ask you the same question I asked Wex if
Bregman departs and maybe even if the contingency plan, you know,
goes according to plan, and you know, whatever you end
up having, don't the Astros seem like even after all
of that, they'd still be the favorites in twenty twenty
five in the Al West, I.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Think so, I mean, it depends on what, you know,
some of the other teams do in the off season.
But yeah, I mean I think as they stand now,
they're they're the best team. I mean, and they're not
gonna sit here and stand still. I mean, they're gonna
make some moves here to improve themselves. You know, if
they can address the corner infield spots, which they will,
uh maybe they get a center fielder or an outfielder,
(09:09):
uh to you know, beef up that situation. I think
they'll be in the market for a reliever. They could certainly
use another depth starting pitcher probably like every team. So yeah,
I still think they're the team to beat. I mean,
you know, the Rangers have a lot of talent, but uh,
you know, they're gonna lose some of it in free agency.
You know, a lot of those guys were banged up,
you know, some of their you know, like, what are
(09:30):
they going to get out of de gram Voldie's gone.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So unless one of those other teams makes a big.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Splash, I'm talking about the Rangers and the Mariners because
I still don't see the the Angels being a player,
and you know, hey, they signed Sevarino today, so you know,
maybe they're on the uh. Maybe they're gonna start spending
some crazy money going to Sacramento, which is kind of crazy,
But I mean, I still think the Astros are, unless
they completely flub this offseason, are going to be the
class of the aos.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Final thirty seconds for us here, Brian, do you feel
like the meetings coming up next week in Dallas will
start multiple major money deals being agreed to.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I think they will.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I mean, these things have generally been a big bore,
but you know, the stuff I'm reading about Soto seems
like a decision could be coming, you know, maybe by
the end of the weekend, and I think that's really
gonna break the really break things free. Whether the Astros
get involved that earlier or not, I'm not sure. But
you know, we had a deal done today with Severarino,
so maybe, you know, maybe things are starting to happen.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, when everyone in.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Baseball gets together under the same roof and you know,
the the drinks start flowing, things tend to get done.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So we'll see where we're at in a week.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
It's your favorite time of year, the off season. That's
never an off season for you, Brian. We appreciate you
carving out some time on the fly and we'll catch
up very soon.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm sure, all right, Thanks guys. Brian McTaggart.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
MLB dot com is where you can find his work,
including that article on Alex Bregman and or the contingency
plan surrounding the Astros off season.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm a little oppressed now. I'm not even gonna lie
about it.
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