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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, let's just jump right into it.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Because Fran Brown joins us here at the Bear Bryant
Awards at the Post Do Hotel. It's just been fantastic
interview after fantastic interview. If we do say so ourselves,
it's not us, it's definitely the coaches. It's definitely the content.
Fran How are you enjoying Houston all the snow outside.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I mean, I'm coming from Syracuse, so you know, coming
from Syracuse, this is this is pretty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Sweet game, right, I mean, it's not all having an
out of body experience.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm probably laughing at it.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's not even an So it's just cool. If this
happened there, we probably have a block party.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Well, we'll try to talk some people into that. Your
coaching travels and taking you a lot of places you
would not be new to recruiting the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Spent some time at Baylor.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Tell us about what football from your perspective is here
in Texas as it relates to finding players for you.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
That's one of the meccas of college football.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I mean, coming here to get quarterbacks, you know you're
gonna get fast players.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I think players that are developed.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I think the high school coach was here doing an
amazing job, and I think it.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Rolls through college football.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But I thought just being here when I was at
bell or coaching, just going around and seeing the high school,
seeing the facilities, just seeing the way Texas takes on football,
it was truly it.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Opened my eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But I thought the high school coaches were top notch,
you know, and I thought they did a really good job.
And so I appreciate recruiting here and I built some
meaningful relationships here that still helped me now as being
the head coach at Syracuse University, I've been able to
get a couple good players Dallas that are up there
playing for us, and I've got really good relationships here.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I think that's the one thing. When they know you.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Love football and you're a football guy in Texas, football
is life. So when football is life here in Texas
and they know you love it, you'll build friendships and
relationships that last forever. Me and Joyed McGuire at Texas Tech,
me and him and Blanchell, all of us guys are
still good friends.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Are just seeing those dudes the other day.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean, I'm just thankful and happy to have an
opportunity of always being able to come and recruit Texas.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Ten win season your first year at Syracuse, your first
year as the head coach. Beyond the obvious, we'd like
more wins and continue doing that. What do you take
out of your one that you'd like to build on
to repeat as you move forward.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I would love to be a dart again, being a detailed, accountable, relentless,
tough football team. Keep God first as we do, you know,
make sure I understand and knowing that without the Man
above there is no us. He's the only person that
has been ever perfect, Jesus Christ to Walker's Earth.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So I still try to.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Stay focused on that and then just building men, you know,
men of character, right men, But football is football.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Football is gonna be easy.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But making sure that I'm developing these men in all
aspects of life and not just that being a saying
that most people say, making sure that do it and
show them that, right, And I think you show them
that by spending time with them. So I try to
make sure that I spend a lot of time with
the players. I'm around the players just to make sure
they know that I love them and I care about them,
and not just on the football field, I care about
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them and just life period.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You know, how hard is that right there to convey
to young people when so many of them, even as
young as they are, probably.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
See a bunch of head coaches come into the living.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Room or wherever they're being recruited, and they already know
it's kind of a business, or at least it's perceived
that way.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
How do you cut through.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
All that and convince a young person, Hey, I'm not
that guy.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
That's it's not the same.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I'm just consistent. I stay to who I am.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
There's two fails, two sides to it, right, So for me,
it could go against me because I may when you
look at most of college football, right, the athletes, a
lot of them, it's African American men, right, So when
he took a lot of them and seeing it's like, okay,
I look like the typical cousin uncle, something of that nature.
And you're listening to me and talking and it's like, oh, snap,
piece different. Well let me hear what he has to say.
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You know, his message is completely different. I can I understand,
and I know what it takes to build amand and
I'll make sure sure they understand that. In parents and
then once they sit there, you can see that, Wow,
it doesn't matter what color you are.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
He knows how to build character.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
He knows how to build a man, and he's gonna
make sure that you're a successful man. Because everyone's not
gonna be consistent. They'll change, right. I'm gonna be with
you through the upstudid downs. You get injured, You're coming
with us. I'm gonna still take care of you. You're
still gonna be treated the same. Everything will be the
same no matter who you are, because I build meaningful relationships.
I've always done that my entire life. You know that
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if I call you my friend, then you only way
of that friendship of break is if you do something
because I'm gonna do everything I can to hold up
my end of the deal, my end of the bargain.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
A lot of times coaches aren't being held accountable, and
sometimes people let them get away with it because they
may have a higher name or a certain statue where
he could say or kind of do whatever he wants.
But you I just feel like like it's not about
what Adam says, It's about how I may Adam feel. Right,
So I want to Adam, Adam. But now I'm just
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say bigg right, the bigger. It's not like you may
say your friend, he's a good guy, that's this, and
he may say, I don't know, man, he just didn't.
I didn't feel this. Whatever you feel was real, don't
go against that. And I think a lot of times
they tried to tell the parent or they tell the kid,
he's taking it the wrong way.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
No he's not.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
He's taking what he felt because why didn't his friend
feel the same way, because his friend's better, because his
friend it is this, because it may be certain things.
So I just go off of how you treat him. Man,
if you just go off of it, you go around
how I treat you, and you may not like me
because I tell you the truth, right, And I'm gonna
tell you the truth no matter what it is, because
you're not gonna come back and say I lied to you. No,
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I told you wouldn't probably do this. Now I'm sit
in living room and ah you the truth. Yes, Yo,
you're gonna come here. I don't know if you can
play over them, you have an opportunity to play, but
this dude, their training. How can I tell this guy
that you're gonna start over him when he been there
with me for a year.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
And a half.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That's your opening line, isn't it. I can't go right.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
If I can just come and tell you all you
come play for us right now next year, then I
can't cope like you had him with you for two years. Now,
you as a young kid, need to think about what
he's telling you, and then think about what I'm gonna
tell the next kid after you. So now everybody in
the room, and you wonder why they say I don't
like the coaching. People run into the portal and they
doing this. It's gonna be very hard for a kid
to go to the portal for me, you know why
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A lot of times they go. Let's say we got
ten kids that went in the portal. Seven of them
I told to go because you're not gonna.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Make it here.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Three out of the other three two of them knew
they probably wouldn't play, and one of them can't take
the truth. So it's just gonna be like, I mean,
you're not gonna leave me because I lie to you.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You're gonna leave because you can't play here. You're gonna leave.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Because I told you. The best thing for you to
do is go somewhere else and listen. Go make it
look like it's.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Maybe, make it look like you don't want to go.
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It doesn't matter with now, I know where our relationship is.
I could care less what Twitter or X or whatever.
I can care less what X or all that stuff means. Whatever,
you know our relationship. Do what you gotta do to
get where you need to go. You know, and I
think that. I mean, you've been listening to a lot
of coaches, right, Yeah, you can see the difference.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
It ain't no, I'm not likely.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Why is it? Why do I want to play? For
all of them?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
It's really good and the message that you share is
incredible and we understand certainly what can happen there and
is happening at Syracuse, you know, looking at talking with
coach Fran Brown of Syracuse here at the Bear Bryan Awards,
looking at your path to where you are today. You
were a cornerback, You've coached the defensive backs for a
long time. Your last stop was as defensive backs coach
with Houston Texans cornerback Kamari Lassiter. Yeah, obviously have to
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ask you about him. And I just talked to him
on Monday after their season ended, his rookie season ended,
and it's no different when than the first time I
talked to him after they drafted him. For me, I'm
curious your standpoint of who he is, what he is,
what you thought he might be as a player. He
never lacked the belief, felt like he belonged here before
he ever got here, felt like he needed to be
on the field because that's where he feels like his
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talent takes him, and worked hard to make sure that
played out that way. Just some of your thoughts about
your time with him and what you see from him
this year on into his future.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
He's playing the same way that he played in college.
He's a confident young man.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
He's physical, right, so most corners don't like the contact
the way he likes contact. But he's a physical young man.
But he studies the game right. We're in there in
the morning's at seven o'clock. His entire career, two years straight,
we're in the office early in the morning, seven o'clock
and he's in there with the guys, running the meetings
and going through stuff with me and just getting through it. Now.
My first year there, me and him learning the defense together.
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He never played until I got there, so we learned
it and I'm going through it with him and going
back and forth. But he just loves the game of football.
His mom's amazing lady, his popkin is an amazing man.
So he comes from good home. The characters there, right,
god fearing kid, Grandma, amazing aunts, like this whole family.
But when it comes to wanting to compete, I just
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put him on the best wide out, go get him.
So we knew whoever he was playing. As they got
to it. They let him a little sickcam coach. He
could cover him. You know, let's put this guy on
that guy and he can cover him. But he comes
to practice day in day out like there's no He
gets upset when he can't practice. He had a foot
injury and we would minimize his reps and he like
that was the first time that he ever snapped out
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was at me because I had to minimize his reps.
And he told me, Coach, stop effing taking me all reps.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I want practice.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And I said, but listen, we need you in the game,
so I need you to chill like we got you.
Coach Smart wants just to happen so you could play
through the year.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
And he uh, he was like, all right, I got you.
I just coach.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I gotta practice like and he'll sneak back in like
he'll you coaching another corner, Kamaria.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Take the guy out and go back and be doing
out there like you like.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And now guess who's getting yelled at Kirby Smart coming
at me.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
We done said this, what are you doing? I gotta coach.
I'll get it. Fix your guys.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, Kirby knows that Kamari's sneaking back in, but he's
just getting at me, and it's it was a blessing
to coach him, because that's why you coach college football,
for guys like that that just want to play. Like
in the uh they about to play Florida State in
the bowl game. I should everybody opting out. You know
I'm playing. I'm playing because Smart had to tell you, hey,
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you're not gonna play the laster this game. We already
win and you're not playing the entire.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Game killing him.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Oh, he just wants to play, wants to practice.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
He a little kid, though, like if he was here now,
and I'll bet I bet you can't run and flip
up the wall. He could do a backflip up the
wall like he's he does like all that stuff. Like
he's just a big kid. You know, I'm very happy
that I got to coach him. I'm so thankful that
he's had the rookie year that he had. But I
believe his better football's ahead of him because he's going
to work so hard. There's so many things he'll call
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about he's upset when he got beat by something, and
there's different things.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
So I mean, that kid's.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Gonna have one hell of an offseason in my opinion,
and just watch the better footballs ahead of him. So
I recruited, uh Petrie. So here's another kid that I
recruited that plays there in Houston. So, like I mean,
those guys just being able to work together and play together,
it'll be fun. I think Great on Arnold's not with
those guys no more a few season. Coach great and
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Arnold also, So it's a bunch of those guys getting
the opportunity to coach.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So I like it down here in Houston. They doing
a good job.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Their coach is an amazing coach.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You know, he's done a hell of a job over
his career, just what he's been able to put together
and what he stands for his character. I'm happy those
guys all landed with such a fine head coach.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
He can come hang out with us. I like that conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Baylor football player Houstonian Jalen Petrie certainly a good one
here in Houston, and unfortunately his season ended early with injury. Kamario,
I'm sure super proud of the way he finished his
season the big game against the Chargers. They weren't throwing
to the wide receivers when they played Kansas City for
a reason, with Lastar on one side and Sting on
the other. But I certainly appreciate all your insight and
everything you brought to our interview today. Be sure the
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best of luck here and continued success with the with
the Orange.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, you guys be saved. God bless you. Happy to
be on the Age Show.