October 9, 2024 • 41 mins
- What's your secret code word/language with your partner/friends?
- Matty's committed a cardinal couples sin...
- Matty tests PJ on the Laneway line up (is this artist real or fake? Cause some of the names these days are WHAAAT?)
- Battle of The Hits: Craig David edition!
- John Campbell joins the show to talk his new show and catch up with old mate Matty!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Hits Drive with medi and PJ. Thanks to Chimis
were House, the Real House of Fragrances and on that,
Hello and welcome to the podcast. I know we're not
supposed to bring attention to the fact that it's your
husband's birthday, but you guys going up for dinner, don't know,
I very low key be a big occasion.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, I'm certainly not allowed to post about it because
he made me promise I wouldn't do any kind of
social media posting for his birthday. It's been very hard
to hold.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
On to that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You're going to be fine. You're going to be fine.
I just don't get sentimental after a few bubbles because
I know you well and you're like, oh god, let
me just take one little scent, just one little scent,
a cute little blue No. Now, you kindly provided me
details of where you're going for dinner. You know how
much I love this because I love small town and
the range of eateries that we have.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Scarce can be a da.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So you've already been looking at them in.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You Yeah, I do you know how many ingredients I
have had to google?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is it one of those?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah? So what do you reckon in endavas d iv indeve.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It sounds almost like an anchovy or something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, well, hang on, I just locked it up.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It is a leaf vegetable belonging to the genus Kacorium,
which includes several similar bitter leafed vegetables. Uh checker, Oh
like chickery. Okay, maybe like redishio. I don't know, but
that's not the only ingredient I've had to google. Also
(01:32):
had to google bagnacorder. Do you know what that is?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Is it a cheese? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Fuck, I haven't had.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's a hot dish and dipping sauce in Pierre Montese
and provencla cuisine that is used to dip vegetables in.
It's prepared using olive oil, topped anchovies and garlic. Mate,
where are you going? Okay, here's another one, gubbagule.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Is it like a salami?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I can't even find it on Google? Oh, here we go.
It looks like kind of like a meat. Yeah, it
looks like a looks like a.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Here's a question. Here's a question for you, and maybe
this is this might be a good people's poll. Actually, yeah,
So when you go to a restaurant like this with
there's lots of words that you don't know. Do you
a ask the wait staff to translate them menu or B?
Do you do a sneaky little google under the table?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'd google it? I google it? You do want to
look culture?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Oh my god, I can't believe that you guys have
the pic? Do you think that wasn't the most obscure?
It's cheese, just in case you're.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Wondering, But you had to google that?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I know, and that's what I do in the restaurant.
I don't think i'd ask them, do you not? BJ
hates when we're out for dinner. He thinks I'm so boring,
so I'll be like what They'll be like, do you
know what you're gonna order? And I'll be like, what's
the what's the favorite here?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I hate that too, and I can't explain why I
hate it. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Because it's unoiginal and boring, which is not actually like
my personality type. I don't get it, but I think
I panic and I'm like, well, look, I can I
can trust in the weight stuff to give me a
good solution here.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I guess I also but I always just think food
is so subjective, like one person love one thing, and
I just think it's the worst thing.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
On the meaning Usually if there's something that's like, you know,
consistently go on like.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Hotcakes, it's got to be good. So I but I
hate it.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
He's like, you're so like he loves to try and
call me boring or dull when he not like he
knows that whys outside much?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Do you want me to send you photos of the
food that we're here?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Please? Please?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Be just tending your bakery open at the golf course.
Do you know how exciting that is? Like literally seek
out new places opening, It's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Even in a city like this, You've still got you've
still gotta you've still got to like sift out the
ship ones.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And sometimes it's quality over quantity. You know, are you
gonna dress? Are you going to wear that?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I weared that wrong because I really like that shirt
you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Thanks, but no, I am putting on it. I'm putting
on a collared shirts.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You really are putting in a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I know, I've come back. I don't know what
it was I came back from holiday, you know, I
know what it was. I was in Sydney, and Sydney
people were so fashionable and I went to this rooftop
bar that was like it was on a Friday night
and it was where all of the like accountants and
(04:54):
lawyers and stuff go the your pros, yeah, and they
all just looked so good. And I thought, I've turned
into this like absolute slob on radio, I turn up and.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Like I think we all do though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I never do my hair. I put a head on
wear like a baggy, oversized jumper. And I'm not saying
there's anything wrong with that, but I just felt like
I kind of just wanted to start putting a little
bit of effort into my make it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Till you make it so like if you feel like that,
like if you dress like it, you feel like it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I've got a lot, I've got all of these
nice clothes that I just found. It was never wearing
because I was just putting on my like, you know,
my sloppy usually.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Reserved sloppy, Like your sloppy is still my manicure.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Collar shirt today?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Cool college shit, it's quite lose and baggy.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's really nice.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Thank you. We're basically wearing the same color. It's like
an army khaki.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
What I forgot? Remember I said I got a I'm
so bad at this.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Is this about the thing that you will meant to
go to tonight? Yes, it's not too late.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Send them a message.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So I I do want to two things because there's
two situations that are I'm dealing with right now. One
is that I realized today I as VP for an
event that I'm that I can't go to now. But
it's not just like a Some events that we get
invited to are like drinks and nibbles and if you
(06:28):
tune up grade if you don't, it wouldn't really matter.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You know, your presence won't be missed.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But this one is a play. So there's reserved seats
for me.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Oh that's so good. Could you get anyone to go
last minute?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Maybe?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But would they love maybe? Hey this is my mate.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Bro, So I've got to cancel. But the other thing
is I've got an event next week that I haven't
ris VP for that. Maybe it's too late for me
to o VP to that.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
You mclin you Madie McClain, suit your power all right?
You don't ever done. I'm so bad anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Coming up in the podcast, we have the lovely John
Campbell on to talk all things Maddy McLain and what
it's like working with him, no and all seriousness. He's
got a new true crime series on TVNZ Plus and
he comes on to talk more about that and actually
the experience of getting to know all of the people
close to this investigation.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We realized you and I that were very old because
we didn't recognize a single.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I spoke myself in the eye, all right, Ah, yeah,
I don't know how did that? It was so sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We realized we didn't recognize a single name on a
festival lineup. So we played a little fun game with
the Battle.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Of the Hats made a return with iturs and we
kind of broke the rules, but it was fun, and
we talked about your secret code language that you have
either with family of friends. Lots of fun coming up
in the show and wait and have a wonderful dinner.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Medie.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Thank you very much, Bye, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
The podcast.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Something my partner and I do.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I want to know if this is a universal practice
or if we're.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Quite unique doing this thing.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So whenever we need to know if the other person
is really telling the truth. Not that we're like constantly lying,
but you know when it's like, no, come on, sis,
be honest.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We you cannot lie when you say actual actual, So
I'll go bj ectual actual and he'll go extu ectual,
and then you know that the other person has been
like soup. You cannot lie on that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's a lot of trust, though, that's a lot of trust.
Especially yes, but with a little prankster like BJ, you've
got to know that actual actual means actual actual.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
B J wouldn't lie on actual actual.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
No, Na.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Not actually had an X and we did promise promise.
Oh god, I really throw it out there. Do you
have like a little phrase that you'll say, maybe it's
not even the Ryan, but like a friend.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Like when you're just checking that they're being completely one
hundred percent on us.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, I don't. I don't think I ever have a
phrase for that. But I've definitely got code words. I've
got definitely got things that we say, like what wow.
Ryan and I when we were on our honeymoon last
year in Europe, we saw this really rather attractive man
(09:44):
and he was right on a boat. So for our
whole honeymoon. Whenever we'd see a cute boy, we'd say body,
and body was just body like body, body was there
with a word that would alert us, like, well there's
a rather attractive.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Man, boody, Yeah, and it's not too obviously.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Remember we talked about on planes and how is it
flight attendants or people.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Who were they've got their own secret code words.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Isn't it your b or bob? And it was like
babe on water or something.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It was true.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
So I thought we could dive into this a bit
more this afternoon because I had to do it to
be J.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This morning, I wanted to know if he had washed
something that Toddler put in his mouth. And I was like, actual, actual,
just tell me, did you wash it? It's all good
if you did it.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And that's not act actual and actual actual he had
washed it?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
He had because he said actually told me. After actual ages,
I knew that he was.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Mary and PJ. Mary and PJ the podcast.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That we want to know what is your language?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Your secret language with family or friends or maybe it's
like a code word that you use and only you
and that person. No, oh, wait, one hundreds to join
the show. You context a few.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Naughty texts coming. How many of those can we get across?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think we can read this. I think we can
read this one. This is like a this is a
code word that someone didn't get.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Okay, right, someone said.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I worked in retail with a girl that didn't know
what dt if meant. So her day was filled with
random guys asking her if she was dt if she
thought it meant dedicated, trustworthy, and faithful.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's a nice interpretation that you stay with that.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, being is doing us?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh under been? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Not don what's your secret language?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So we had our second daughter about a couple of
years ago, and it was just through the time that
our five or six year old was starting to learn
that lie. So were then say to her, do you
swear on baby Lily's life? I feel guilty for even
saying that was probably a lot nicer than that.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, but did it work, Ben? Did she understand the
gravity of the situation?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It does?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
We're off, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I always draw the line because people be like, do
you swear on someone's life? And I got I never.
I just can't do it. I actually swear on someone I.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Love's last Maybe switch it up to actual, actual Ben,
that might be a little bit safer.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He was joining us. Hurts Hi, Ever, what's your secret
code word?
Speaker 7 (12:24):
OHI guys and their family.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
We have an awkward extended family member.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
So when we end up talking about them, we call
them at SEU next Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Right, Okay.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
That stops the kids from having any access to who
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
All right, and it goes over goes over everyone's head.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, I think your calling for help. It's about you
coming away.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
A couple of good texts here page someone said with friends,
whenever we say the word apple, it means you are
and you're saying too much for the people you'll with.
We've all been there, right, you're in a social circle
and your loose lips start to see cheese.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
One it was one of my colleague beest friend and
I said sign language deady to alert each other if
there's a good looking guy in the room the podcast.
You know how, sometimes there are those days where you're
just like, wow, I feel ancient.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I feel like a fossil.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Today was one of those days when the news came
out about the lane Way Festival lineup announcement. Now, if
you don't know what Laneway is, it's been around for
quite a while. Hour it's a festival that's in Australia
and in New Zealand, and basically all of the hip
coal young artists performed there.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Like I've been in the past, and in the past
I have known some of the artists, but I too
looked at today's lineup and thought, I don't know any
of these people.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
We were so many of them are I still like
because I you know, I thought I was pretty cool
and a'll turn off back in the day and go on.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Check out these sick red artists from the UK. I
literally looked at this lineup. I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Same I thought it was AI. I thought AI had
generated these fake band names.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Other than Charlie Xcyx.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It was a massive obviously British pops out the way
man and she's had a huge yeah, basically creating this
phenomenon of like Brett Summer. So a lot of people
excited that Charlie's coming.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But other than that, I knew no what.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I literally thought, this is a job.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I thought, I've gone through and had a look
at the lineup, and what I've done is I've pulled
out some of the artists that are performing, and then
I've made up some artists' names myself, and I want
to see if you can determine who is fake and
who is real. Oh so some of these people are
performing at Laneway, and some of these names I just
made up on the spot.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The first one is Barry can't swim, very.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Barry can't swim. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I want to say it's made up, but I also
feel no, I think it's a real band.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Is it? It's a real band?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, this is them Barry can't swim?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, this sick track?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Okay? What about what about skivity.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
S givity? No, you're trying to have one on me,
because that's not.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Everyone givity s givitykivity.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Is just kivity is just what the youth say that
I don't thget. It's a band.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Okay. What about beans on Toasts?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
No, you're taking the post. That is not a band.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, that's not a band.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Don't go well.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Okay, what about I dress, I dress, I dress, I dress.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, I reckon that's.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm doing very well.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, rock on man?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay? And by Sip by sip real or fake? Where
do these.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Names come from? Bicep. I reckon, you came up with that.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, that's a real band and they are playing a
lane way yep. Oh okay, we're gonna quickly finish on
one more. Yeah, I beg you your honor.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I can't tell you seriously, you're doing the face when
you're trying not to laugh.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I reckon, you've made a beginning. They could see hard
to decipher.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh, there's one.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Way to make yourself real older many.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
And the podcast.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I Love my Husband.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Never had a good sign when you start your chat
with it, because you know that there is a massive.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But dot dot no I need it's almost it's not
a butt from from my point of view of but
he's done something. I need to preface how much I
love him so that he knows that the thing that
I've done shouldn't get in the way of how much
I love him.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Okay, okay, so you're in the dog box. You want to.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Gravel, Well, I will be in the dog box. He
doesn't realize what I've done yet, but I need to
come clean. I need to confess and I just need
to get it off my chest.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So better than having the chat with that, why don't
we do the practice chat.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Why don't you?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, So we get home, I'm there looking handsome at
the bench in the kitchen and I'm like, hey, babe.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
First of all, it's Matt or nothing.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Hi Matt. How was your day?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It was good? Ryan? How are you?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Good?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Why do you look you look a little sweaty?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No no, no, no no no no no no no no
no no, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Okay, you look you look guilty straight out the gate?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Ok.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Sorry, so not a good start.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No no, no no, no, all was good. Just needed just
just need a little chat here. It's nothing major, mate.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Mate, your mate me up back? Did I might check
down the shrimp on the barbie?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's nothing, it's nothing major, But I just I needed
you to know that. You know how we started watching
a couple of episodes of that show together. Well yeah,
it's been a while and between watching the first couple
of episodes and we've actually moved on to a new show.
But I wanted something to watch myself this morning before
(18:49):
I went to work.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I'm so glad you brought this up.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm so excited to sit down with you and we
can watch it tonight because I've got a.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Block of chocolate, and I thought, oh.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What a great way to just end the windesday. I'm sucks.
I'm so glad you brought it up.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah. Cool. So I definitely will sit down and watch
it with you, and it definitely won't be the second
time that I'm watching those.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Oh my god, I did this the other day. I
did this the other day.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Can't help myself?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
What nobody wants it?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No? No, Because what happened was we started a show,
then we put that to the side while we binge
watched Nobody watch wants This? And in this morning, I
was sitting at home, going, I want to watch something
before I go to work, and I thought, well, I
don't even know if we're going to do that show Togain.
I don't know if that's going to be an a
together show. So I just forged ahead and kept watching
(19:38):
it by myself.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So when was the last time you guys actually watched
the show?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Maybe a week and a half ago.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Now you you're good. I reckon out of sight, out
of mind. That was a secondary watches the other one.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's out of some mind. It's out of sight, out
of mind, except for the fact that when you open
up Netflix, you know it says like recently viewed, it's
going to be their front end seat.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Can you go on your app right now on your
phone and just start watching I don't know a clueless
or like something that he'd expect you to be watching.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, I watched a bit of Legally Blonde and it's
his birthday. To do it today. You can't break it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't break it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Get into your app now, just throw them a little.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Perfectly, throw them a rogue one and then get ready
to rewatch that episode for the second time.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And laugh hysterically all of.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
The podcast Battle of the Heads.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yes, in his Battle of the Heads with a little
bit of a twist this week, we have had two
songs to work out what we believe is the best.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Song from Craig Davis.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's a bit of a stretch because we spun a
wheel of random letters and whatever letter we landed on,
we go with an.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Artist that began with that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Now we went with D and D got really hard,
so we went Greg David.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah. A few people pointed out there were actually quite
like quite a lot of a lot of other options.
There's Domice Summer, There's Dolly Parton, there's the Doors there's
David Bowie, Yeah, Juran Duran. There's lots of artists, but
we've landed on Craig David and this is where we are.
This is where we are peg and we'll just go
to roll.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
With okay, So I reckon. There's only really like two songs.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, there's more.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
There's more.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I will lead with.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I would love to hear on the radio today. I
haven't heard the song in ages. It was released as
the third single from Craig's debut studio album Born to
Do It in two thousand. It reached number three over
in the UK and number one here in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
That's how much we love it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
As Kiwi's it actually went on to be the most
successful song of two thousand and one. This is a
chune and I'm slowing it down with walking Away.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It is good.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But can I tell you? Born to Do It, the
album that came out in two thousand had actually a
number of bang it. There was walking Away, there was
Seven Days, There was Rendezvous, the song that I sang
to audition for our high school musical.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
At at high school, it's right, you actually sung in
front of the whole school.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, it's my audition song, did you not go seven days?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I didn't go seven days?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh my god, I was so sure you meet seven days.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
No, I've gone for a song that has such a
smooth and infectious R and B beat that just gets
under your skin. It is such a fun song to
listen to. It brings me back to many a high
school party back in the early two thousands. It is
Craig David's epic, epic classic Fill me in to.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Keep them as'll be?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Oh, that's alf tales.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Were okay, they have both good songs, but I still
am just crazy walking away.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
There's something like really emotive about it that makes you
want to just pay it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You've done your pitch. You've done you pitch.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Put like headphones on and walk dramatically.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Have your like to vote for Maddies, fill me in
for Craig David call right now, Oh wait, one hundred
the hats or you can go walking away. Please weigh
in with your boat. We're gonna pick out best of
three and then the winning song. We're playing two songs.
You can also text through four for eight seven Team
Maddy or PJ for Battle of the Hat.
Speaker 10 (23:58):
Maddy and PJ, Mady and PJ the podcast The Battle
of the Heads.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
In the meantime, we are playing around a battle of
the hits, and the artist is Craig David, Matty and
I have come to the table with what we believe
is Craig's best song. First ut with me with walking Away.
(24:33):
It's good, it's good you've come to the table, sort
of taking it up and.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Arch well, I've just gone for a slightly different take.
I've gone for one of his more upbeat songs. I've
gone with fill me in to keep all that welcome strolling.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Now, this is the fun part where you get to
bag in with what you believe is the be song.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Gi Smith, you put.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A juice is Heira? Before we get to the phones.
So is just going to give us a quick little
rundown of where we stand at the moment with the stats.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yes, and the stats are up to date now, I
promise sitting on PJ is leading with fifteen points, Maddie
coming in at fourteen.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Don't let that dissuade you. Don't feel like you need
to do a petty vote.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I don't want to win with the petty vote, but
I would like to.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Win okay Son, the hats team Maddy, your team PAJ
the winner, best of three, we will play out in
its entirety.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Rebecca is up first. Hi, Rebecca, how are you good?
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
How are you such fake?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There was such faux friendliness win over Rebecca's vote?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Did really know?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I was just like, don't let that sway you. Rebecca.
You vote however you want to vote?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Okay, how would you like to vote?
Speaker 7 (25:58):
So I'm going to go with Maddy this?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What why?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
It's more of a thang out?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yes, I Agreebeca, it's slow, Yeah, I agree. You want
to dance? You want to dance on a Wednesday afternoon?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
All right, Rebecca, you have a great day. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Through gritted tea. All right.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Would it be a bit of conversation with Jackson? Hello Jackson?
Who would you like to vote for a J?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
P J?
Speaker 9 (26:25):
All the way?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Jackson? Jackson?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Okay, there is one of peace.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Which means Larissa on one hundred the hurts? The power
is in your hands. Who would you like to vote
for PJ? With walking away for Craig David to be song?
Would you like to go team Metty for filling in?
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Wow, I'd just like to say I'm really sorry, PJ,
but the whole office who wants Matty Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Thank you. It's not aloud no, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I thought I thought they husky voice famili I was.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Like, hang, thank you very much. Are you okay, Paige, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Fine, I'm fine. I just thought I had it in
the bag.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I just really felt like an emotive ballade for Wednesday Afternoons.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
People want to be here this week and they want
to go with Craig David's incredible so on the winner
of Battle of the Hits this week it's fill me in.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I'm going to say, I'm going to say.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Feel May and the podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Earlier in the show, we were talking about you know
you're old when you don't recognize any of the names
on the festival lineup.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yes, Lane Way announcement came out today. We knew no one.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Charlie x Well, I got another one for you. I've
realized that mums started sending me videos or like reels
on Instagram of very adult things, and today's was a toozy.
It was her sharing a little hack where someone was
getting a bunch of avocados before they were even ripe,
and then scooping them out and then rolling them into balls,
(28:39):
and then freezing them in the freezer, and then taking
them out and then defrosting them in the microwave, because
you know, you often buy these buy avocados and they're
either too hard, they're too soft, they go yes rotten
before you even get to use them. So Mum was saying,
scoop them up, roll them into balls, put them in
the freezer. Wham bam, thank you, ma'am. And I thought
that is how I know I am old with my
(29:00):
mother is sending me these kinds.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Of no, no no. The testers, did you enjoy the video?
Was it satisfaction for you or were you like rolling
your eyes?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Maddy and PJ. Maddy and PJ the podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, it is an honor to introduce our next gift
to the show.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
In fact, I feel like I shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I feel like Matty knows this man very very well.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Maddy.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Would you like to do the honor of introducing our
next games?
Speaker 11 (29:30):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I feel very lucky because I got a big beer
hug from him when he walked in, and I haven't
had him for a very long time.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
It's funny because you don't really hug in the workplace anymore,
and that's appropriate. I think people need to be safe
at work. But you and I out hugs are consensual.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Absolutely lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely anyway, John Campbell, so.
Speaker 11 (29:53):
Lovely to see you three.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's lovely to have you, and thank you so much
for coming into the studio.
Speaker 11 (29:58):
Thanks for having me. I'm on your radio show. Really honored.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. PJ was saying, it's like the x
is meeting.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, we can share.
Speaker 11 (30:13):
God. He was so squeaky clean.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
He's such a good boy, a little too good getting naughty. Yeah,
are you? Yeah, I've taken a leaf out of good.
Speaker 11 (30:23):
I think we're only here the once. A little bit
of naughty's.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, Yeah, I agree, as long as you don't hurt people, No, no, no, no, no,
it's just yeah, a little bit of cheap Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Less Man couldn't hurt her fly, he couldn't.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
For people who don't know, I work with Many for
three years on Breakfast. It was Many show. I just
arrived on it, did a three year cameo and then
stagger it off. But it was beautiful to it with you.
It's beautiful to watch you and it was beautiful to
watch your relationship with the country, and I feel like
you guys are replicating that now on this you know
the way.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's really lovely, I think.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
And you've always you always remind us to be hopeful,
to be kind.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's not about it's not about me, John, It's not
about me.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
You've always made it about.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Look, John, we have got you in today because you've
been working on a fascinating new six part series crime
series which you can get on TV ANDZ Plus. It's
called The Woman at the Bottom of the Stairs. And
instead of me explaining, here is a little taste of it.
Speaker 11 (31:23):
Mandy said.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Police told Mandy they were taking Rachel's death seriously because
of the previous crime against her. Neither thing had even
occurred to Mandy, and words like that once said can't
be unheard, especially when Rachel was indeed just a month
away from testifying against the alleged ringleader in that horrible crime.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It is a heavy stories.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
PJ and I have started watching it and it is
truly gripping but awful. It's a horrible story that has
happened to this woman, Mandy about her daughter Rachel, who
was found at the bottom of the seat of concrete stares.
But there's more to the story, right, which is where
you've picked it up.
Speaker 11 (32:05):
Yeah, there may or may not be. This is the
really confusing thing. Who knows whether there's more to the story.
But what Mandy says, and at first I thought, is
this grief? Is this some mother joining dots that don't
warrant joining. But because she's lost this beautiful she's lost
her girl, you know, she's lost her daughter. But what
Mandy says is, I don't know how my daughter died.
(32:25):
And Mandy says it's because the police didn't do an
adequate job. The police say we did do an adequate
job and she fell. But Mandy is simply not persuaded
of that. And I think losing your daughter in those
circumstances and then being uncertain about what exactly the circumstances
circumstances are is unbelievable. In this woman, this sort of
force of nature from Livin, you know, it's swimming instructor
(32:47):
from Livin, who just somehow managed to get into my
email in box and persuade me to give her a call.
And I gave her a call. And it's an extraordinary story.
But Actually, she is a remarkable person. She's a you know,
I just admire her so much. She's become her daughter's voice.
And her daughter can't talk obviously now because she died
(33:09):
at the Bottom of the stairs, but Mandy is speaking
for her in a way that feels like the most
extraordinary manifestation of love.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
We are joined by John Campbell talking his new true
crime series available now on TVNZ plus.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
More from him.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Next Maddy and PJ. Mady and PJ the Podcast.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
We are joined by the lovely John Campbell this evening,
who has been doing some incredible work on a new
six part crime series called The Woman at the Bottom
of the Stairs.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
It's available on TV and Z plus.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's true, it's incredible, And what PGNI was saying was
your ability to get people to open up to you
very quickly with very intimate stories is such a skill
and it's amazing to watch watch it unfold because Mandy
really trusts you with this very heavy story.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
John, It's funny I often say to people, being me
is like a get into jail free card. You know
I'm not get out of jail free card. Well, mineus
a get so I to just turn up at things
and you know, whatever's going on, people just say, oh, hi,
John Campbell, like it's the most natural thing in the
world that I'm there. I guess that's because I know
I've been on the telly for so long. But you
still require them to trust you. And Mandy had to
(34:23):
trust me with something. There's nothing bigger than your daughter's
the loss of your daughter's life. So so I went
down and visit I've seen it. I've been to visit
her three times and live in and you know, there
was the first interview was a little bit brittle and
a little bit slightly guarded, and then the second interview
and she opened up to me and I didn't know
how many times I've spoken to her on the phone, hundreds.
So it's a trust develop a trust relationship.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Sorry, PJ No, I was just going to say, you know,
you investigate these pretty heavy stories and it must be
all consuming. Do you find that you can sort of
mentally detach from everything that you discover along the way
or is it actually quite hard mentally when you're going
through this.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
I don't because I love the show because it's a
glass halfull optimism show. You know, you make you often
help me if I'm having a tough day, so I
don't want to give you an an existentially big part.
I'm finding it harder now.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:16):
I think I've been doing it for so long and
you cram you just I just pack everything down, you know,
into the bone marrow, just whack it down, bang bang bang,
down it goes. But I'm running out of room to
jam it in, so I'm finding it's near the surface.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
So that I mean, it's a really interesting thing to
consider that after thirty years of telling stories which are
often said some some of the biggest, saddest stories in
the history of this country, you run out of room
to kind of pack it away.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's all right, so interesting you'd almost think it might
go the other way. Yeah, you desensitize time.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I think you've actually possibly a good a good thing.
Yeah right. It means you still care it.
Speaker 11 (35:51):
Yeah, that's right. I care very much. Yeah about you,
Medie mostly.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Wow, So that's what I do.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
Also, that's the other thing, is I just burn to
change it. Yeah, that's a man, that's a classic.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah. No, this is honestly such an amazing series. And
you've told this story with real heart and with real care.
And it's gripping. It's really it's an intense watch, but
it's fascinating. You can't look away.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
Thank you. Thanks having me on your radio station.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You got We'd love to have you longer.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
Someone one of us arrived late. I'll give you a clue.
I'll scramble his name.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Con Jam the woman at the bottom of the stairs
that is on TV Plus Now. John, thank you so
much for coming in. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
And keep up your wonderful work.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Thank you, John. We'll go up for luck just soon,
all right. I love it, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
And the podcast, the People's Poll, the People's Poll, everybody
comes together.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's the People's Poll, and it's the People's whole time.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And we check this up on our Instagram page. The
hats drive every day up on our story. You can
go and wait in. Today we are talking road rage.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yes, because we all feel it, some more than others.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I would say more people feel it towards me than I.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, I don't get I don't get mad road rage
because I think I as maybe someone who isn't always
the greatest of drivers. I do appreciate that sometimes you
make a mistake in the car we've all been there,
and I don't think anyone is like anyone. No one
is safe from sin, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, I feel like you would be pro to a road.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm really not. I not really. What I get a
little bit for what I do is I get a
little bit frustrated with people when they like don't go,
you know, if it's turn to go or the lights
of turned green and someone doesn't move. But I don't
get road rage.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Would it's so s you hot on the horn?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I'll give. What I do is I give a little
tot when I need them to know something I don't.
I don't blast the horn because I'm annoyed that they
cut in front of me or something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
You know, Yeah, I would say I don't. Usually it
would not be my like default behavior. However, if there's
like an eminent, like real threat and like it's you know,
they're right there and they're about you know, I feel
like I do I need to if they're elleterally.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
About to come into me or whatever.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
But otherwise I will probably just yell profenities inside the car.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, yes, I do do that.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I do do that externalizing outside of the car. Yeah,
So the question is do you honk when you have
road rage?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Years or no?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's that simple. How many hot on the horns are
out there?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Many?
Speaker 9 (39:05):
In the podcast that the People's Poll, the People's Poll,
everybody comes together, it's the People's pole.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
All right, we are talking road rage on the People's
Poll today. Are you raging on the on the horn?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It's the question.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, someone sticks and said, eye blast the horn for
about five seconds?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Can I just tell you that's decent?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Five seconds is longer than you would think. I'm going
to give you a little I'm going to give you
I'm going to time it myself and I'm going to
give you a little I'll do Okay, Okay, here we go.
It's like this that is aggressive, right.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, you don't need to do that. I'd say a
solid two seconds as long enough.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I mean, I kind of I kind of love it.
I love the sasiness. But five seconds is a long time.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
It sounds like something's just fallen on the steering wheel
or there's been like a car crash or something.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Do you know what I mean? Yes, well, I would
say the majority of people have said they do honk. Yes,
I'll admit it. I do honk yep if I have
road rage. Sixty one percent of people said yep, I'll honk.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Still quite a lot of people that don't. Here's a question,
what about the thank you wave? What do you do
to let the other person know that you're grateful that
they let you in an already? Are you a simple
little with your hand, like a little wave.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I'll often do a little wave. But if i'm if
they've let me in and I've gone in front of them,
then I'll do the hazard lights. It's a little ah okay.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You don't even go biby.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
No for trucks, randomly for trucks if I'm passing them.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, yeah, there's truck language. It's not a hatchbag a conversation,
is it?
Speaker 11 (40:56):
No?
Speaker 10 (41:00):
MPJ Mediam PJ The podcast The Hits
The Hits Drive with medi and PJ. Thanks to Chimis
were House, the Real House of Fragrances and on that,
Hello and welcome to the podcast. I know we're not
supposed to bring attention to the fact that it's your
husband's birthday, but you guys going up for dinner, don't know,
I very low key be a big occasion.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, I'm certainly not allowed to post about it because
he made me promise I wouldn't do any kind of
social media posting for his birthday. It's been very hard
to hold.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
On to that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You're going to be fine. You're going to be fine.
I just don't get sentimental after a few bubbles because
I know you well and you're like, oh god, let
me just take one little scent, just one little scent,
a cute little blue No. Now, you kindly provided me
details of where you're going for dinner. You know how
much I love this because I love small town and
the range of eateries that we have.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Scarce can be a da.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So you've already been looking at them in.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You Yeah, I do you know how many ingredients I
have had to google?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is it one of those?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah? So what do you reckon in endavas d iv indeve.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It sounds almost like an anchovy or something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, well, hang on, I just locked it up.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It is a leaf vegetable belonging to the genus Kacorium,
which includes several similar bitter leafed vegetables. Uh checker, Oh
like chickery. Okay, maybe like redishio. I don't know, but
that's not the only ingredient I've had to google. Also
(01:32):
had to google bagnacorder. Do you know what that is?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Is it a cheese? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Fuck, I haven't had.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's a hot dish and dipping sauce in Pierre Montese
and provencla cuisine that is used to dip vegetables in.
It's prepared using olive oil, topped anchovies and garlic. Mate,
where are you going? Okay, here's another one, gubbagule.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Is it like a salami?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I can't even find it on Google? Oh, here we go.
It looks like kind of like a meat. Yeah, it
looks like a looks like a.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Here's a question. Here's a question for you, and maybe
this is this might be a good people's poll. Actually, yeah,
So when you go to a restaurant like this with
there's lots of words that you don't know. Do you
a ask the wait staff to translate them menu or B?
Do you do a sneaky little google under the table?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'd google it? I google it? You do want to
look culture?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Oh my god, I can't believe that you guys have
the pic? Do you think that wasn't the most obscure?
It's cheese, just in case you're.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Wondering, But you had to google that?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I know, and that's what I do in the restaurant.
I don't think i'd ask them, do you not? BJ
hates when we're out for dinner. He thinks I'm so boring,
so I'll be like what They'll be like, do you
know what you're gonna order? And I'll be like, what's
the what's the favorite here?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I hate that too, and I can't explain why I
hate it. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Because it's unoiginal and boring, which is not actually like
my personality type. I don't get it, but I think
I panic and I'm like, well, look, I can I
can trust in the weight stuff to give me a
good solution here.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I guess I also but I always just think food
is so subjective, like one person love one thing, and
I just think it's the worst thing.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
On the meaning Usually if there's something that's like, you know,
consistently go on like.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Hotcakes, it's got to be good. So I but I
hate it.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
He's like, you're so like he loves to try and
call me boring or dull when he not like he
knows that whys outside much?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Do you want me to send you photos of the
food that we're here?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Please? Please?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Be just tending your bakery open at the golf course.
Do you know how exciting that is? Like literally seek
out new places opening, It's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Even in a city like this, You've still got you've
still gotta you've still got to like sift out the
ship ones.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And sometimes it's quality over quantity. You know, are you
gonna dress? Are you going to wear that?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I weared that wrong because I really like that shirt
you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Thanks, but no, I am putting on it. I'm putting
on a collared shirts.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You really are putting in a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I know, I've come back. I don't know what
it was I came back from holiday, you know, I
know what it was. I was in Sydney, and Sydney
people were so fashionable and I went to this rooftop
bar that was like it was on a Friday night
and it was where all of the like accountants and
(04:54):
lawyers and stuff go the your pros, yeah, and they
all just looked so good. And I thought, I've turned
into this like absolute slob on radio, I turn up and.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Like I think we all do though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I never do my hair. I put a head on
wear like a baggy, oversized jumper. And I'm not saying
there's anything wrong with that, but I just felt like
I kind of just wanted to start putting a little
bit of effort into my make it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Till you make it so like if you feel like that,
like if you dress like it, you feel like it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I've got a lot, I've got all of these
nice clothes that I just found. It was never wearing
because I was just putting on my like, you know,
my sloppy usually.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Reserved sloppy, Like your sloppy is still my manicure.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Collar shirt today?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Cool college shit, it's quite lose and baggy.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's really nice.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Thank you. We're basically wearing the same color. It's like
an army khaki.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
What I forgot? Remember I said I got a I'm
so bad at this.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Is this about the thing that you will meant to
go to tonight? Yes, it's not too late.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Send them a message.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So I I do want to two things because there's
two situations that are I'm dealing with right now. One
is that I realized today I as VP for an
event that I'm that I can't go to now. But
it's not just like a Some events that we get
invited to are like drinks and nibbles and if you
(06:28):
tune up grade if you don't, it wouldn't really matter.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You know, your presence won't be missed.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But this one is a play. So there's reserved seats
for me.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Oh that's so good. Could you get anyone to go
last minute?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Maybe?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But would they love maybe? Hey this is my mate.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Bro, So I've got to cancel. But the other thing
is I've got an event next week that I haven't
ris VP for that. Maybe it's too late for me
to o VP to that.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
You mclin you Madie McClain, suit your power all right?
You don't ever done. I'm so bad anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Coming up in the podcast, we have the lovely John
Campbell on to talk all things Maddy McLain and what
it's like working with him, no and all seriousness. He's
got a new true crime series on TVNZ Plus and
he comes on to talk more about that and actually
the experience of getting to know all of the people
close to this investigation.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We realized you and I that were very old because
we didn't recognize a single.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I spoke myself in the eye, all right, Ah, yeah,
I don't know how did that? It was so sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We realized we didn't recognize a single name on a
festival lineup. So we played a little fun game with
the Battle.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Of the Hats made a return with iturs and we
kind of broke the rules, but it was fun, and
we talked about your secret code language that you have
either with family of friends. Lots of fun coming up
in the show and wait and have a wonderful dinner.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Medie.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Thank you very much, Bye, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
The podcast.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Something my partner and I do.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I want to know if this is a universal practice
or if we're.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Quite unique doing this thing.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So whenever we need to know if the other person
is really telling the truth. Not that we're like constantly lying,
but you know when it's like, no, come on, sis,
be honest.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We you cannot lie when you say actual actual, So
I'll go bj ectual actual and he'll go extu ectual,
and then you know that the other person has been
like soup. You cannot lie on that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's a lot of trust, though, that's a lot of trust.
Especially yes, but with a little prankster like BJ, you've
got to know that actual actual means actual actual.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
B J wouldn't lie on actual actual.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
No, Na.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Not actually had an X and we did promise promise.
Oh god, I really throw it out there. Do you
have like a little phrase that you'll say, maybe it's
not even the Ryan, but like a friend.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Like when you're just checking that they're being completely one
hundred percent on us.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, I don't. I don't think I ever have a
phrase for that. But I've definitely got code words. I've
got definitely got things that we say, like what wow.
Ryan and I when we were on our honeymoon last
year in Europe, we saw this really rather attractive man
(09:44):
and he was right on a boat. So for our
whole honeymoon. Whenever we'd see a cute boy, we'd say body,
and body was just body like body, body was there
with a word that would alert us, like, well there's
a rather attractive.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Man, boody, Yeah, and it's not too obviously.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Remember we talked about on planes and how is it
flight attendants or people.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Who were they've got their own secret code words.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Isn't it your b or bob? And it was like
babe on water or something.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It was true.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
So I thought we could dive into this a bit
more this afternoon because I had to do it to
be J.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This morning, I wanted to know if he had washed
something that Toddler put in his mouth. And I was like, actual, actual,
just tell me, did you wash it? It's all good
if you did it.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And that's not act actual and actual actual he had
washed it?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
He had because he said actually told me. After actual ages,
I knew that he was.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Mary and PJ. Mary and PJ the podcast.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That we want to know what is your language?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Your secret language with family or friends or maybe it's
like a code word that you use and only you
and that person. No, oh, wait, one hundreds to join
the show. You context a few.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Naughty texts coming. How many of those can we get across?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think we can read this. I think we can
read this one. This is like a this is a
code word that someone didn't get.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Okay, right, someone said.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I worked in retail with a girl that didn't know
what dt if meant. So her day was filled with
random guys asking her if she was dt if she
thought it meant dedicated, trustworthy, and faithful.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's a nice interpretation that you stay with that.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, being is doing us?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh under been? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Not don what's your secret language?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So we had our second daughter about a couple of
years ago, and it was just through the time that
our five or six year old was starting to learn
that lie. So were then say to her, do you
swear on baby Lily's life? I feel guilty for even
saying that was probably a lot nicer than that.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, but did it work, Ben? Did she understand the
gravity of the situation?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It does?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
We're off, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I always draw the line because people be like, do
you swear on someone's life? And I got I never.
I just can't do it. I actually swear on someone I.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Love's last Maybe switch it up to actual, actual Ben,
that might be a little bit safer.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He was joining us. Hurts Hi, Ever, what's your secret
code word?
Speaker 7 (12:24):
OHI guys and their family.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
We have an awkward extended family member.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
So when we end up talking about them, we call
them at SEU next Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Right, Okay.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
That stops the kids from having any access to who
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
All right, and it goes over goes over everyone's head.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, I think your calling for help. It's about you
coming away.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
A couple of good texts here page someone said with friends,
whenever we say the word apple, it means you are
and you're saying too much for the people you'll with.
We've all been there, right, you're in a social circle
and your loose lips start to see cheese.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
One it was one of my colleague beest friend and
I said sign language deady to alert each other if
there's a good looking guy in the room the podcast.
You know how, sometimes there are those days where you're
just like, wow, I feel ancient.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I feel like a fossil.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Today was one of those days when the news came
out about the lane Way Festival lineup announcement. Now, if
you don't know what Laneway is, it's been around for
quite a while. Hour it's a festival that's in Australia
and in New Zealand, and basically all of the hip
coal young artists performed there.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Like I've been in the past, and in the past
I have known some of the artists, but I too
looked at today's lineup and thought, I don't know any
of these people.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
We were so many of them are I still like
because I you know, I thought I was pretty cool
and a'll turn off back in the day and go on.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Check out these sick red artists from the UK. I
literally looked at this lineup. I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Same I thought it was AI. I thought AI had
generated these fake band names.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Other than Charlie Xcyx.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It was a massive obviously British pops out the way
man and she's had a huge yeah, basically creating this
phenomenon of like Brett Summer. So a lot of people
excited that Charlie's coming.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But other than that, I knew no what.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I literally thought, this is a job.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I thought, I've gone through and had a look
at the lineup, and what I've done is I've pulled
out some of the artists that are performing, and then
I've made up some artists' names myself, and I want
to see if you can determine who is fake and
who is real. Oh so some of these people are
performing at Laneway, and some of these names I just
made up on the spot.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The first one is Barry can't swim, very.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Barry can't swim. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I want to say it's made up, but I also
feel no, I think it's a real band.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Is it? It's a real band?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, this is them Barry can't swim?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, this sick track?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Okay? What about what about skivity.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
S givity? No, you're trying to have one on me,
because that's not.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Everyone givity s givitykivity.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Is just kivity is just what the youth say that
I don't thget. It's a band.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Okay. What about beans on Toasts?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
No, you're taking the post. That is not a band.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, that's not a band.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Don't go well.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Okay, what about I dress, I dress, I dress, I dress.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, I reckon that's.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm doing very well.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, rock on man?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay? And by Sip by sip real or fake? Where
do these.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Names come from? Bicep. I reckon, you came up with that.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, that's a real band and they are playing a
lane way yep. Oh okay, we're gonna quickly finish on
one more. Yeah, I beg you your honor.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I can't tell you seriously, you're doing the face when
you're trying not to laugh.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I reckon, you've made a beginning. They could see hard
to decipher.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh, there's one.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Way to make yourself real older many.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
And the podcast.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I Love my Husband.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Never had a good sign when you start your chat
with it, because you know that there is a massive.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But dot dot no I need it's almost it's not
a butt from from my point of view of but
he's done something. I need to preface how much I
love him so that he knows that the thing that
I've done shouldn't get in the way of how much
I love him.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Okay, okay, so you're in the dog box. You want to.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Gravel, Well, I will be in the dog box. He
doesn't realize what I've done yet, but I need to
come clean. I need to confess and I just need
to get it off my chest.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So better than having the chat with that, why don't
we do the practice chat.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Why don't you?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, So we get home, I'm there looking handsome at
the bench in the kitchen and I'm like, hey, babe.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
First of all, it's Matt or nothing.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Hi Matt. How was your day?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It was good? Ryan? How are you?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Good?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Why do you look you look a little sweaty?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No no, no, no no no no no no no no
no no, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Okay, you look you look guilty straight out the gate?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Ok.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Sorry, so not a good start.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No no, no no, no, all was good. Just needed just
just need a little chat here. It's nothing major, mate.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Mate, your mate me up back? Did I might check
down the shrimp on the barbie?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's nothing, it's nothing major, But I just I needed
you to know that. You know how we started watching
a couple of episodes of that show together. Well yeah,
it's been a while and between watching the first couple
of episodes and we've actually moved on to a new show.
But I wanted something to watch myself this morning before
(18:49):
I went to work.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I'm so glad you brought this up.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm so excited to sit down with you and we
can watch it tonight because I've got a.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Block of chocolate, and I thought, oh.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What a great way to just end the windesday. I'm sucks.
I'm so glad you brought it up.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah. Cool. So I definitely will sit down and watch
it with you, and it definitely won't be the second
time that I'm watching those.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Oh my god, I did this the other day. I
did this the other day.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Can't help myself?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
What nobody wants it?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No? No, Because what happened was we started a show,
then we put that to the side while we binge
watched Nobody watch wants This? And in this morning, I
was sitting at home, going, I want to watch something
before I go to work, and I thought, well, I
don't even know if we're going to do that show Togain.
I don't know if that's going to be an a
together show. So I just forged ahead and kept watching
(19:38):
it by myself.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So when was the last time you guys actually watched
the show?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Maybe a week and a half ago.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Now you you're good. I reckon out of sight, out
of mind. That was a secondary watches the other one.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's out of some mind. It's out of sight, out
of mind, except for the fact that when you open
up Netflix, you know it says like recently viewed, it's
going to be their front end seat.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Can you go on your app right now on your
phone and just start watching I don't know a clueless
or like something that he'd expect you to be watching.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, I watched a bit of Legally Blonde and it's
his birthday. To do it today. You can't break it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't break it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Get into your app now, just throw them a little.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Perfectly, throw them a rogue one and then get ready
to rewatch that episode for the second time.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And laugh hysterically all of.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
The podcast Battle of the Heads.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yes, in his Battle of the Heads with a little
bit of a twist this week, we have had two
songs to work out what we believe is the best.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Song from Craig Davis.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's a bit of a stretch because we spun a
wheel of random letters and whatever letter we landed on,
we go with an.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Artist that began with that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Now we went with D and D got really hard,
so we went Greg David.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah. A few people pointed out there were actually quite
like quite a lot of a lot of other options.
There's Domice Summer, There's Dolly Parton, there's the Doors there's
David Bowie, Yeah, Juran Duran. There's lots of artists, but
we've landed on Craig David and this is where we are.
This is where we are peg and we'll just go
to roll.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
With okay, So I reckon. There's only really like two songs.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, there's more.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
There's more.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I will lead with.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I would love to hear on the radio today. I
haven't heard the song in ages. It was released as
the third single from Craig's debut studio album Born to
Do It in two thousand. It reached number three over
in the UK and number one here in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
That's how much we love it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
As Kiwi's it actually went on to be the most
successful song of two thousand and one. This is a
chune and I'm slowing it down with walking Away.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It is good.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But can I tell you? Born to Do It, the
album that came out in two thousand had actually a
number of bang it. There was walking Away, there was
Seven Days, There was Rendezvous, the song that I sang
to audition for our high school musical.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
At at high school, it's right, you actually sung in
front of the whole school.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, it's my audition song, did you not go seven days?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I didn't go seven days?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh my god, I was so sure you meet seven days.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
No, I've gone for a song that has such a
smooth and infectious R and B beat that just gets
under your skin. It is such a fun song to
listen to. It brings me back to many a high
school party back in the early two thousands. It is
Craig David's epic, epic classic Fill me in to.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Keep them as'll be?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Oh, that's alf tales.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Were okay, they have both good songs, but I still
am just crazy walking away.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
There's something like really emotive about it that makes you
want to just pay it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You've done your pitch. You've done you pitch.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Put like headphones on and walk dramatically.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Have your like to vote for Maddies, fill me in
for Craig David call right now, Oh wait, one hundred
the hats or you can go walking away. Please weigh
in with your boat. We're gonna pick out best of
three and then the winning song. We're playing two songs.
You can also text through four for eight seven Team
Maddy or PJ for Battle of the Hat.
Speaker 10 (23:58):
Maddy and PJ, Mady and PJ the podcast The Battle
of the Heads.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
In the meantime, we are playing around a battle of
the hits, and the artist is Craig David, Matty and
I have come to the table with what we believe
is Craig's best song. First ut with me with walking Away.
(24:33):
It's good, it's good you've come to the table, sort
of taking it up and.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Arch well, I've just gone for a slightly different take.
I've gone for one of his more upbeat songs. I've
gone with fill me in to keep all that welcome strolling.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Now, this is the fun part where you get to
bag in with what you believe is the be song.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Gi Smith, you put.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A juice is Heira? Before we get to the phones.
So is just going to give us a quick little
rundown of where we stand at the moment with the stats.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yes, and the stats are up to date now, I
promise sitting on PJ is leading with fifteen points, Maddie
coming in at fourteen.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Don't let that dissuade you. Don't feel like you need
to do a petty vote.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I don't want to win with the petty vote, but
I would like to.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Win okay Son, the hats team Maddy, your team PAJ
the winner, best of three, we will play out in
its entirety.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Rebecca is up first. Hi, Rebecca, how are you good?
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
How are you such fake?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There was such faux friendliness win over Rebecca's vote?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Did really know?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I was just like, don't let that sway you. Rebecca.
You vote however you want to vote?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Okay, how would you like to vote?
Speaker 7 (25:58):
So I'm going to go with Maddy this?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What why?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
It's more of a thang out?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yes, I Agreebeca, it's slow, Yeah, I agree. You want
to dance? You want to dance on a Wednesday afternoon?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
All right, Rebecca, you have a great day. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Through gritted tea. All right.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Would it be a bit of conversation with Jackson? Hello Jackson?
Who would you like to vote for a J?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
P J?
Speaker 9 (26:25):
All the way?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Jackson? Jackson?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Okay, there is one of peace.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Which means Larissa on one hundred the hurts? The power
is in your hands. Who would you like to vote
for PJ? With walking away for Craig David to be song?
Would you like to go team Metty for filling in?
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Wow, I'd just like to say I'm really sorry, PJ,
but the whole office who wants Matty Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Thank you. It's not aloud no, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I thought I thought they husky voice famili I was.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Like, hang, thank you very much. Are you okay, Paige, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Fine, I'm fine. I just thought I had it in
the bag.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I just really felt like an emotive ballade for Wednesday Afternoons.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
People want to be here this week and they want
to go with Craig David's incredible so on the winner
of Battle of the Hits this week it's fill me in.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I'm going to say, I'm going to say.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Feel May and the podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Earlier in the show, we were talking about you know
you're old when you don't recognize any of the names
on the festival lineup.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yes, Lane Way announcement came out today. We knew no one.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Charlie x Well, I got another one for you. I've
realized that mums started sending me videos or like reels
on Instagram of very adult things, and today's was a toozy.
It was her sharing a little hack where someone was
getting a bunch of avocados before they were even ripe,
and then scooping them out and then rolling them into balls,
(28:39):
and then freezing them in the freezer, and then taking
them out and then defrosting them in the microwave, because
you know, you often buy these buy avocados and they're
either too hard, they're too soft, they go yes rotten
before you even get to use them. So Mum was saying,
scoop them up, roll them into balls, put them in
the freezer. Wham bam, thank you, ma'am. And I thought
that is how I know I am old with my
(29:00):
mother is sending me these kinds.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Of no, no no. The testers, did you enjoy the video?
Was it satisfaction for you or were you like rolling
your eyes?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Maddy and PJ. Maddy and PJ the podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, it is an honor to introduce our next gift
to the show.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
In fact, I feel like I shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I feel like Matty knows this man very very well.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Maddy.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Would you like to do the honor of introducing our
next games?
Speaker 11 (29:30):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I feel very lucky because I got a big beer
hug from him when he walked in, and I haven't
had him for a very long time.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
It's funny because you don't really hug in the workplace anymore,
and that's appropriate. I think people need to be safe
at work. But you and I out hugs are consensual.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Absolutely lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely anyway, John Campbell, so.
Speaker 11 (29:53):
Lovely to see you three.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's lovely to have you, and thank you so much
for coming into the studio.
Speaker 11 (29:58):
Thanks for having me. I'm on your radio show. Really honored.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. PJ was saying, it's like the x
is meeting.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, we can share.
Speaker 11 (30:13):
God. He was so squeaky clean.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
He's such a good boy, a little too good getting naughty. Yeah,
are you? Yeah, I've taken a leaf out of good.
Speaker 11 (30:23):
I think we're only here the once. A little bit
of naughty's.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, Yeah, I agree, as long as you don't hurt people, No, no, no, no, no,
it's just yeah, a little bit of cheap Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Less Man couldn't hurt her fly, he couldn't.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
For people who don't know, I work with Many for
three years on Breakfast. It was Many show. I just
arrived on it, did a three year cameo and then
stagger it off. But it was beautiful to it with you.
It's beautiful to watch you and it was beautiful to
watch your relationship with the country, and I feel like
you guys are replicating that now on this you know
the way.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's really lovely, I think.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
And you've always you always remind us to be hopeful,
to be kind.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's not about it's not about me, John, It's not
about me.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
You've always made it about.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Look, John, we have got you in today because you've
been working on a fascinating new six part series crime
series which you can get on TV ANDZ Plus. It's
called The Woman at the Bottom of the Stairs. And
instead of me explaining, here is a little taste of it.
Speaker 11 (31:23):
Mandy said.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Police told Mandy they were taking Rachel's death seriously because
of the previous crime against her. Neither thing had even
occurred to Mandy, and words like that once said can't
be unheard, especially when Rachel was indeed just a month
away from testifying against the alleged ringleader in that horrible crime.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It is a heavy stories.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
PJ and I have started watching it and it is
truly gripping but awful. It's a horrible story that has
happened to this woman, Mandy about her daughter Rachel, who
was found at the bottom of the seat of concrete stares.
But there's more to the story, right, which is where
you've picked it up.
Speaker 11 (32:05):
Yeah, there may or may not be. This is the
really confusing thing. Who knows whether there's more to the story.
But what Mandy says, and at first I thought, is
this grief? Is this some mother joining dots that don't
warrant joining. But because she's lost this beautiful she's lost
her girl, you know, she's lost her daughter. But what
Mandy says is, I don't know how my daughter died.
(32:25):
And Mandy says it's because the police didn't do an
adequate job. The police say we did do an adequate
job and she fell. But Mandy is simply not persuaded
of that. And I think losing your daughter in those
circumstances and then being uncertain about what exactly the circumstances
circumstances are is unbelievable. In this woman, this sort of
force of nature from Livin, you know, it's swimming instructor
(32:47):
from Livin, who just somehow managed to get into my
email in box and persuade me to give her a call.
And I gave her a call. And it's an extraordinary story.
But Actually, she is a remarkable person. She's a you know,
I just admire her so much. She's become her daughter's voice.
And her daughter can't talk obviously now because she died
(33:09):
at the Bottom of the stairs, but Mandy is speaking
for her in a way that feels like the most
extraordinary manifestation of love.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
We are joined by John Campbell talking his new true
crime series available now on TVNZ plus.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
More from him.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Next Maddy and PJ. Mady and PJ the Podcast.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
We are joined by the lovely John Campbell this evening,
who has been doing some incredible work on a new
six part crime series called The Woman at the Bottom
of the Stairs.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
It's available on TV and Z plus.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's true, it's incredible, And what PGNI was saying was
your ability to get people to open up to you
very quickly with very intimate stories is such a skill
and it's amazing to watch watch it unfold because Mandy
really trusts you with this very heavy story.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
John, It's funny I often say to people, being me
is like a get into jail free card. You know
I'm not get out of jail free card. Well, mineus
a get so I to just turn up at things
and you know, whatever's going on, people just say, oh, hi,
John Campbell, like it's the most natural thing in the
world that I'm there. I guess that's because I know
I've been on the telly for so long. But you
still require them to trust you. And Mandy had to
(34:23):
trust me with something. There's nothing bigger than your daughter's
the loss of your daughter's life. So so I went
down and visit I've seen it. I've been to visit
her three times and live in and you know, there
was the first interview was a little bit brittle and
a little bit slightly guarded, and then the second interview
and she opened up to me and I didn't know
how many times I've spoken to her on the phone, hundreds.
So it's a trust develop a trust relationship.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Sorry, PJ No, I was just going to say, you know,
you investigate these pretty heavy stories and it must be
all consuming. Do you find that you can sort of
mentally detach from everything that you discover along the way
or is it actually quite hard mentally when you're going
through this.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
I don't because I love the show because it's a
glass halfull optimism show. You know, you make you often
help me if I'm having a tough day, so I
don't want to give you an an existentially big part.
I'm finding it harder now.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:16):
I think I've been doing it for so long and
you cram you just I just pack everything down, you know,
into the bone marrow, just whack it down, bang bang bang,
down it goes. But I'm running out of room to
jam it in, so I'm finding it's near the surface.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
So that I mean, it's a really interesting thing to
consider that after thirty years of telling stories which are
often said some some of the biggest, saddest stories in
the history of this country, you run out of room
to kind of pack it away.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's all right, so interesting you'd almost think it might
go the other way. Yeah, you desensitize time.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I think you've actually possibly a good a good thing.
Yeah right. It means you still care it.
Speaker 11 (35:51):
Yeah, that's right. I care very much. Yeah about you,
Medie mostly.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Wow, So that's what I do.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
Also, that's the other thing, is I just burn to
change it. Yeah, that's a man, that's a classic.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah. No, this is honestly such an amazing series. And
you've told this story with real heart and with real care.
And it's gripping. It's really it's an intense watch, but
it's fascinating. You can't look away.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
Thank you. Thanks having me on your radio station.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You got We'd love to have you longer.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
Someone one of us arrived late. I'll give you a clue.
I'll scramble his name.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Con Jam the woman at the bottom of the stairs
that is on TV Plus Now. John, thank you so
much for coming in. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
And keep up your wonderful work.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Thank you, John. We'll go up for luck just soon,
all right. I love it, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
And the podcast, the People's Poll, the People's Poll, everybody
comes together.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's the People's Poll, and it's the People's whole time.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And we check this up on our Instagram page. The
hats drive every day up on our story. You can
go and wait in. Today we are talking road rage.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yes, because we all feel it, some more than others.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I would say more people feel it towards me than I.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, I don't get I don't get mad road rage
because I think I as maybe someone who isn't always
the greatest of drivers. I do appreciate that sometimes you
make a mistake in the car we've all been there,
and I don't think anyone is like anyone. No one
is safe from sin, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, I feel like you would be pro to a road.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm really not. I not really. What I get a
little bit for what I do is I get a
little bit frustrated with people when they like don't go,
you know, if it's turn to go or the lights
of turned green and someone doesn't move. But I don't
get road rage.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Would it's so s you hot on the horn?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I'll give. What I do is I give a little
tot when I need them to know something I don't.
I don't blast the horn because I'm annoyed that they
cut in front of me or something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
You know, Yeah, I would say I don't. Usually it
would not be my like default behavior. However, if there's
like an eminent, like real threat and like it's you know,
they're right there and they're about you know, I feel
like I do I need to if they're elleterally.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
About to come into me or whatever.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
But otherwise I will probably just yell profenities inside the car.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, yes, I do do that.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I do do that externalizing outside of the car. Yeah,
So the question is do you honk when you have
road rage?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Years or no?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's that simple. How many hot on the horns are
out there?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Many?
Speaker 9 (39:05):
In the podcast that the People's Poll, the People's Poll,
everybody comes together, it's the People's pole.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
All right, we are talking road rage on the People's
Poll today. Are you raging on the on the horn?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It's the question.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, someone sticks and said, eye blast the horn for
about five seconds?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Can I just tell you that's decent?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Five seconds is longer than you would think. I'm going
to give you a little I'm going to give you
I'm going to time it myself and I'm going to
give you a little I'll do Okay, Okay, here we go.
It's like this that is aggressive, right.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, you don't need to do that. I'd say a
solid two seconds as long enough.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I mean, I kind of I kind of love it.
I love the sasiness. But five seconds is a long time.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
It sounds like something's just fallen on the steering wheel
or there's been like a car crash or something.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Do you know what I mean? Yes, well, I would
say the majority of people have said they do honk. Yes,
I'll admit it. I do honk yep if I have
road rage. Sixty one percent of people said yep, I'll honk.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Still quite a lot of people that don't. Here's a question,
what about the thank you wave? What do you do
to let the other person know that you're grateful that
they let you in an already? Are you a simple
little with your hand, like a little wave.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I'll often do a little wave. But if i'm if
they've let me in and I've gone in front of them,
then I'll do the hazard lights. It's a little ah okay.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You don't even go biby.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
No for trucks, randomly for trucks if I'm passing them.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, yeah, there's truck language. It's not a hatchbag a conversation,
is it?
Speaker 11 (40:56):
No?
Speaker 10 (41:00):
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