November 5, 2025 • 32 mins
On this week’s edition of Inside the (Rob) Parker, Rob is joined by Sportico senior MLB writer Barry Bloom as the guys put a bow on the 2025 Major League Baseball season. During the conversation, Parker and Bloom tell us what went wrong for the Toronto Blue Jays in the World Series, if the Los Angeles Dodgers should be viewed as a dynasty, how guys like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens can sneak into the Hall of Fame 'through the backdoor', and much more! Finally, Rob hits us with his latest appearance on MLB Network.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live
in MLB America. This is inside the Parker. You give
us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop
on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame
voter number fifty seven, Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Come on, I've been covering Major League baseball for almost
forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,
in LA.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I love this game. Let's go. Welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm your host, Rob Parker, and what a show we
have for you today Barry Bloom, the senior writer for
sportico dot com, and we will have.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
A deep dive on the World Series.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Also Hall of Fame talk as that's gonna approach, how
the health of Major League Baseball where it is in
twenty twenty five, and much more.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto,
if I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer
or broadcaster, old or new.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Now let's welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Barry Bloom, senior writer for sport A call better than
that one of my longtime friends, brother in from the
Baseball Writers Barry, how are you, my man?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I'm doing great, kind of like trying to recover from
covering the World Series, but I've been busy every day,
so you know, baseball offseason goes into the baseball season.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And we should say, with the closure of this twenty
twenty five World Series, that's fifty five zero years in
the books covering Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Man. Next year will be my fortieth.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But my god, fifty years covering the national pastime.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean, that's that's quite an accomplishment. Barry, how does
that feel?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's crazy?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I believe it. I mean, you see it a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know when you even for me, you know, when
you see Vladimir Guerrero Junior and his son being a star,
you know how many players that you've covered, and and
then you see for me. I can remember when Darryl
strawberry sonsy Daryl Strawberry's son made it to the NBA,
you know what I mean, And I went to talk
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to him and I just looked at it. I said,
I remember when you were two or three running around
in the clubhouse, and here you are in the NBA,
which is shocking to me.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, I'll tell you A funny story about that. When
I was covering Bud's run to Aaron and Druth and
all that, Tony Gwinn Jr. Came up from the minor
leagues with the Brewers. They were playing the Giants in
San Francisco and Tony gets his first major league hit.
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It was a double, something like twenty nine years to
the day his father had his first hit and it
was a double. And I was at both games.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's unbelievable, right.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
So I said to Barry afterwards. I told him the story,
and he says, you're gonna carry You're gonna cover our
grandchildren's games.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The other one for me is Cecil and Prince Fielder
in Detroit, right, because I used to go out to
lunch often with Cecil, and guess who was at the
table was just the three of us, Me, Cecil and
a ten.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Twelve year old Prince.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, And then of course he wound up going, you know,
to Detroit and those guys hitting the same amount of
home runs in their career, which is unbelievable, the same
exact number. And to see, you know, Prince, this ten
year old kid. I used to have lunch with his dad.
Be a star in the major leagues was.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Just amazing to me. But let's go here.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
We're here to talk about the twenty twenty five World
Series and it's just a simple answer for.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Me, and I would love to hear your take. Did
the Blue Jays choke or did the Dodgers win this
World Series?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's funny. I had another friend of mine, Stan Fischler,
the Mayven, longtime hockey writer. He's now living in Israel,
and he says.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That, right.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Stan Fishler, when I was growing up, was on a
sports channel with the Olidis.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm sta exactly, but he's he's living in Israel, in
that siege there, and he sends me a note yesterday
asking me the same question. And you know, we go
back to all the chokes, and I think the only
choke in this World Series to me was Jeff Hoffman.
That Jeff Hoffman could have led up a one out
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home run to Miguel Rojas of all people, to tie
that game in the ninth inn with Showy Toddie. I'm
looking at it. I'm going, well, the deck Terricle, Wow,
Tony could make the last out of this World Series.
And then all of a sudden, Rojas puts it right
underneath me in the in the press box for sitting
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into the left field seats. I couldn't even see it
go in because the overhand goes over over the left
field corner, so I had to watch it on replay
to see where it went. But I mean, that's a choke.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm would Marry, I'm with you, like and you can't.
And we talked about you know this. You can't pitch
from behind in baseball. Okay, you can't. Rojas is up there,
he's a major league player.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Okay, he made it to the major league. He knows
you can't walk him. Am I right? Because shohey is.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
On deck exactly, You're not gonna walk him.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Ge't walk him. You gotta throw it over the plate.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's three to two count again, if that's an O
two pitch or whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And if you're gonna lose, you gotta lose on your
best stuff. Throw a fastball, make this guy hit it out.
And it's a choke. Job that is I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And then the Blue Jays barry, how many guys can
you leave on base?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Even in that game?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I will say for the rest of it. I
think the Dodgers just made the plays. I mean, every
ball that the Blue Jays hit in Game six and
Game seven at the end, if it's to the left
of the right, either way, they win that game. You know,
if the ninth inning, if kind of phileffic gets a
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better jump at third, they don't throw him out at
the plate, and that's the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They win.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The line drive to Kiki Hernandez at the end of
Game six, where he's positioned perfectly, pulls himself in seven
feet because he wants to get a better throw at
the plate if he needs to make it, and then
throws a dart to second base because Barger was off
second base too far. I mean, those are the things
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that they made mistakes. But Gee made the plays. I mean,
on the last double play of the game. You know,
I'm watching this, and you know they've got uh, you know,
uh Alejandra Kirk at the plate first and third, and
you can argue, should the abunted Gladdie over that, blah
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blah blah. Okay, but still so, now it goes to
Ohen one strike two. They've got the infield in on
Owen one for the play at the plate. Now, oh
and two. I watched this and I go to Rich
Griffin sitting next to me. They just put the ball.
They just pulled the ball the the infield back into
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double play deft at which they knew because Kirk's the
slowest batter in the league, and they had Yamamoto throw
the ball in exactly the right place for Kirk to swing.
Hit it off the end of his bat break his bat,
hit it right to Mookie Wilson at short. Mookie runs
over the bet.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Rookie Bets.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, rookie Bets basically steps on the base.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh, it's an easy double play. I mean, you couldn't
have but they made the play. But here, but Barry,
here's my thing. I hear all that, and I'm not
going to take that away. The Dodgers batted two oh three.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, Bets didn't hit Freddy Freeman, didn't hit Max Months,
he didn't hit I could go up and down the
line on where they were. And the Blue Jays left
sixty six men on base.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Seventeen.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What were they four for seventeen with runners and score?
I mean, like the numbers are eye popping as far
as you know, like getting a run in the last
three innings of Game seven, they had a runner on
second base with nobody out and didn't score any of
those guys. I mean, I just kept looking at us saying,
I cannot believe that when that moment came, that they
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couldn't produce, you know what I mean, one hit, not
ten hits, one hit in one of those situations. And
I was just surprised. I really thought the Blue Jays
they outplayed the Dodgers. They outscored them thirty four to
twenty six, thirty four to twenty six in the series.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
The Dodgers hit two oh three.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I mean I look up and down, and other than Yamamoto,
they beat up Blake Snell twice. Right, I mean, Barry, if.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I chose the one into the series that they would
do that, and they and they got a three run
home run off of Otani in Game seven, you wouldn't
tell me that the Dodgers would win that series.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Simply they chased Snell out of game in the ninth
inning of Game seven.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Ten they got right, That's what I looked.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Up, rob, I mean, the Yankees were outscored the Pirates
sixty five nineteen in the nineteen seven sixty World Series.
Their wins were ten nothing, fifteen to three, and and
you know, and and fifteen nothing or something. You know,
but and then they lost. All four games were very
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close games. The only games the Pirates scored any runs
was Game seven, they won ten to nine the Masarowski's
home run. So all of this doesn't matter. The fact
that that that the Dodgers batted two of four, that
they were outscored, blah blah blah blah blah. I mean
they had a pitcher who let up what one run
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in the or two runs in the whole run. Yeah,
he had a complete game, right.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But two games don't beat you though it's a four games.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Three was three games because he came in and won
the wins. Came in, so he wins three games. Now
all you have to do is have another win.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
No, they won.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm not gonna take it away from them. They won
and will go from there, I'll guess. Barry Bloom from
Sportico dot com a senior writer who's been covering Major
League baseball for fifty years. Guy, I've known my entire
career out at the ballpark, Barry, Let's turn to Baseball's
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in a nice The last few years especially. I just
think it's in a good spot as far as young
star players and the numbers are starting to turn around.
We saw the Dodgers Yankees World Series, which is really
good for baseball. First time since nineteen eighty one, those
two teams met in a fall Classic.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
This year, the numbers were eye popping.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean, the Game seven of the NBA Finals drew
sixteen point nine and Major League Baseball's Game seven drew
twenty six million, twenty five point nine. And the real
interesting thing to me, Barry, is this that the numbers
from Toronto don't factor in, so that twenty five point
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nine is without having another team, you know what I
mean in the United States, that's an incredible number, because
they said a number in Canada was eleven million.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah. Well, I've been consider the number of people watching
in Japan too, Japan, right, So I mean, like, you know,
my consideration of this is that, you know, you had Japan,
Latin America, Canada, US all represented in this World Series,
with players from all over the place, and it's like
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this baseball is really where it wanted to be when
it started the World Baseball Classic in two thousand and six.
You know, they've internationalized the sport, and they've created places
around the world that are playing baseball now and producing
major league players like from Israel and Italy players never
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never played. The money that went into the federations internationally
all around the world. That that's a hidden topic that
the growth of baseball has happened because of all that.
Now you're seeing it all happen and coming together at
the same time with going into the World Baseball Classic
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again next year where Sasaki O Tani Yamamoto are gonna
play again for Team Japan and they're going to be
the team to beat and the USA is going to
have to put a hell of a team out there
to you know, to get them. And then went down
to the list strike the last time against against Trout,
Atani against Trout. We're there and you know my thing
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is with baseball, just don't screw it up. At this point,
it's like you're heading in such a great, great direction.
I mean, Magic Johnson said this the other night after
the win. Baseball is there, it's worldwide, it's growing. Let's
do this and keep it going.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Right, no doubt about it. I mean, it's it's in
a great spot. And any other thing. So many young stars,
Barry and you know in the game. And I think
sometimes we look at the game and go, why is
baseball dipped or why is it gone down? Well, when
you lose Bonds and Jeter and you know a lot
of these all time clemens, all these great players, Pedro
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Martinez who all retired, Mariano Rivera during a stretch, right
of a five or six year stretch, you're going to
take a dip, right, and they did take a dip.
But now every team you look at there's one or
two young stars, you know that that are people are
looking forward to seeing. Even in Pittsburgh with Paul Skeens,
you know, and and and and.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Tyrek Schoobil in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I can go on and on and on where you
have some all time greats, the young players who can
eventually be all time greats who.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Are on these teams.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You know, even the A's with Rooker, and they've got
a bunch of young guys too that are fun. And
you know what, by the time they if they do
and finally get to Vegas, they're going to have a
good team that's gonna be out there. It's going to
challenge in the AO West you know, I kind of
agree with you. You know, I looked at it, and
you know, I look at it sometimes from the Hall
of Fame perspective, that we had so many players in
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our era, you know, And I call it our era
because that's the height of like when newspapers and we
were all covering.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It, and when newspapers were king my man, we were
at that euro you know, we elected something like twenty
four players from that era into the Hall of Fame,
and we would have had a lot more if Bonds
and Clemmens and Maguire and they d.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Right all those rights.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Guys should be in the Hall of Fame, but they
were all kind of like blackbull because of steroids. So
but now if you look at it where we are,
I worry about what we have for the Hall of Fame.
This this balat this year has is dreadful. It's the
worst that I want to say.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It is Barry I see and I'm an done a
deep dive yet, But just the naked eye looking at
the ballot, I see zero.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well, you know, if maybe Bell Trandell get elected because
he's a holdover, but the only reason he would get
elected is because there's no new people on the ballot
who even have got probably going to return to the
ballot next year, the year after. And so you as
you look at it, now, you've got position players, you
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know coming up. You know, you've got Cabrera, You've got
poll Holes, you know, you've got Molina, You've got so
and that's it right as far as starting pictures go.
Now you're squeezing pictures who are still playing. And Kershaw
just retired.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right, it's going to be five years for him, five years.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, But they're all guys that are going to come in.
You know, Verland there has you know, close to Turner
in seventy wins, so he's authentic. But I mean Sure's
and Kershaw are going to go in with two hundred
and nineteen, two hundred and twenty wins. And you're pigeon
holding these guys in. You know, you're pigeonholding these guys
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in on a much different criteria than you did with
former Hall of Fame pictures.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Now, let me let me ask you this. Okay, I
got that, and that's fair. Things have changed a little
bit and criterias have changed a little bit. Were you
on the Contemporary Committee? Because I gotta admit I'm having
an issue with someone's been on the ballot ten fifteen
years they don't get voted in. I don't understand. To me,
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the contemporary committee sounds feels like a back door, like
like you're like like when they let Harold Bains in
or used to be called a Veterans Committee, or Alan
Trammel or Jack Morris or guys who were on the
ballot for the entire time, they didn't get voted in.
And now I don't even understand what the criteria, Like
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I thought the committee would be for somebody who might
have been overlooked for a reason or something you figured
out and said, hey, you should take another look, but
just to recycle the same guys who didn't make it
and put them on that ballot.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I don't know how that makes any sense.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Well, but that's the way the Veterans Committee has always been,
as you pointed it out. And when they shortened our
ballot from fifteen years to ten years, it created a
whole new class of people who we don't vote for,
who maybe we should have voted for but didn't have
enough time on our ballot, like Burt Blylevin who got
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it in his thirteenth year, or Rains got in late.
I mean there's a lot of guys, you know what Marris,
you know, we probably should have voted in. And he's
a guy who got in the Veterans Committee of the
next year. I mean there are guys Tommy John we
should have voted in.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh, I don't know about Tommy John. He played twenty
five years, eleven wins. I'm gonna disagree.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
With one undred and eighty something wins.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, but he I just twenty five years. That this
is not special.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
We've got worse people in the Hall of Fame than
to Tommy John. Well, I'm just yeah, okay, But you know,
the point is that, you know, you've got also the
special class of people like Bonds and Clemens who are
getting another look at this and this is their second time.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right, like like they already had to look with the committee,
which is made up of former players and team broadcasters
more to me quote unquote favorable group that already denied them,
what would be the reason to put them on the
contemporary ballot again.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
That's now they have a new role that if you
don't get it x amount of votes two times on
the ballot, you can never be on it again. And
because Bonds and Clemens were on it once already, they
were grandfathered in, so they get two more shots at it.
But a lot of the guys who are this ballot,
if they don't get in and they've been on a ballot,
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that all of these people on this ballot, they're going
to have one more shot at it and that's it.
I think I agree with you where okay, give them
one shot, maybe two. But the repetitive nature of it,
where Garvey has been on the ballot like five times, right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Like like what's going to change? His stats haven't changed.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I don't understand what Lodges was on it. I don't
know how many times before he finally was elected. And
you know, and then people you get depending on the committee. Yeah,
there are no broadcasters on it.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's well that was the Veterans Committee, because they used
to have committee.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
You don't have broadcasters on it. It's you know, some Hall
of famers, some Hall of Fame executives, a historian, a
couple of baseball writers. You know, that's what makes up
that committee. But you know, still you have to have
a favorable mix on that committee to get some of
those guys in, you know, like the year Baines got in,
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I mean Roland and LaRussa and you know Reinstorf if
they were all on that committee and they pushed for
him to get in. And the year first time Dick
Allen was on it, and he was on it about
three or four times before he got in, he lost
by a vote because Bob Watson was sick, he couldn't
be there. They wouldn't let him do it by phone.
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It was like the dead Williams rule, you're not So
they replaced him with Dave Don Prowski, who didn't vote
for Wow. So I mean, and I always sent to Garvey,
you know, while Lasorda was alive. You need like Peter
O'Malley and Losorta and a mix of people on that
committee Claire Smith me, you know, who are all favorable
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to you to talk, you know, make a presentation and
talk you in. But if you don't have that, you're
not going to get in. It's really not a fair process.
But the Hall of Fame, none of it is a
fair process. I mean the fact that the guys that
we talked about are not in and not going to
get in until somewhere down the road. When there's a
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more enlightened approach to the Hall, You're gonna probably have
a steroid committee that's going to vote these guys in
because they belong in. You can't have a Hall of
Fame that doesn't have the top hit hit guy, Pete Rose.
You know, the top homer guy, Bob you know, and Bob.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I'm gonna we'll we'll part ways on Pete Rose only
because the integrity part of baseball is a big part.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You put it on to just put it on the
on the plaque. Yeah, this is a museum, it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, but his stuff, Barry is in the Hall of Fame.
Your acting as if he's white. Out of the Hall
of Fame. All of his you not have.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You know, like Clemens was the second highest win total
in his era, behind Maddox. He had three point fifty four. Socially,
is the only guy in history the hit sixty home runs.
Palmiero is one of the few guys to have.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
And none of these guys are in the Hall of Fame.
I think actually they will be voted in, But now
we're alive.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, I'm not so sure that everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't want it to be the Basketball Hall of
Fame or the Pro Football Hall of Fame where they're
just putting ten or twelve people in at a time.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Who really weren't the all top grades. Don't. I don't
want to see that happen. But these are pop no
no say in general in general.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And they're just tainted by you know, you know, either
like Rose with the gambling or the other guys with
the steroids. And you know, it's like they have an
ethos there where there's like one or one and a
half percent of the total baseball players are in the
Hall of Fame, and that's the way they want to
keep it. So I don't think that's ever going to change.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It should always be that, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Last thing, I don't believe that this Dodger team is
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
They won in two thousand and then they've won the Less.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Two, so that makes three World Series championships in six seasons.
I believe a dynasty is three in a row or
three out of four.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
The last team to do that was the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I believe that's a real dynasty when a team has control.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
If the Dodgers win.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
This year, they're a dynasty. Three in a row, you know,
but it's like the Giants. The Giants won three in
that five or six year span as well, but every
year after they won the World Series didn't even make
the playoffs the following year. There's no way you can
call that a dynasty. Where are you on a dynasty?
And we'll leave it at this. What's like your criteria
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to call on the team a dynasty?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah, I totally agree with you on this one. The
Dodgers are not a dynasty yet, but they are built
to repeat. Yeah, in this playoff era, it's awfully tough.
I mean they had to win twelve games to win
to win the playoff us in the World Series this year,
you know, to go when you have to start in
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a wild card round and then go through three other rounds,
it's getting to be like the NBA or the NHL
where you have four full rounds, four out of seven
and you have to win to win the championship. So
you a lot of things injury wise, everything has to
go right. You could have a great regular season, it
doesn't matter if things fall apart in those rounds. So
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for them to be a dynasty, you go back to
the Yankee era that you mentioned even then it was
like three out of uh, you know, it was three rounds.
You know, the first round is obviously the DS was
always five.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Games, right, three out of five right back in.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
You know the Yankee Great Errors of the fifties and sixties. Mean,
there was always that joke with Jeter and Yogi about
how tough it was for them to win the World
Series in his era as compared to Yogi's era, and
then Yogi would just hold up his hands, Yeah, he goes,
you can come over. The rings are in my house.
You can come over and see him anytime you want.
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But I mean there is something to all that. And
so for the Dodgers to really win again, to three peat,
as pat Riley coined back in the day in Magic, stay,
you know for that if they do it again this year,
and they are built to do it with that team
they have, and I think they have the kind of
guys you know, like betts Otani, they're Yamamoto, They're like
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they've won in Japan, they've won over here. They want
to they have the motivation to do it every year.
I mean, Mooki this is his fourth title already with
two different teams. I mean, so he wins one more,
he equals Jeter, so it and all the core floor.
So to me, if the Dodgers win, can repeat it
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again next year and do a three peat, which would
be unheard of in this era. But then their dynasty.
But I also think you have to include you know,
you win twelve out of the thirteen l West titles.
The one year you lose, you lost by a game
to the Giants, then you beat them in the NLDS,
So I mean that record is pretty superlative and that's
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a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, but we saw the Atlanta Bridge win fifteen or
sixteenth straight NLLES title.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
They got one level series right, exactly all right.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
His name is Barry blue Man covers Baseball fifty years
sportico dot com. Check out his column there at the
website and Barry always a pleasure, my man. Thank you
for spending some time with us here on inside the
Parker and enjoyed the off season, my man.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Okay, thanks Parking, this is a lot of fun. Thanks
for having me on.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
In case you missed Rob Parker on the MLB nex Words,
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Speaker 6 (27:56):
Showdown Time within now controversial Rob Parker rob great to
have you back on after the World Series. Look, that
was a tremendous World series. But we all have a
few minutes here. Is this a dynasty? What your first
take on that?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
No, it's not a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
First of all, the Blue Jays choked and gave the
Dodgers a world championship.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That parade today in La BK.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Should have been in the north pole because that was
a Christmas present from the Blue Jays to the Dodger.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
They didn't choke it away. They should have won number
of times they didn't. But the Dodgers did win, and
they did win it some. Then they hit a home run.
They'd all run in the ninth, they hit all run
on the eleventh. They won it. They won it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, no, no, no, they choke when you give up.
They were let me tell you this. They were one
ninth place hitter out away from this being a billion
dollar flop. And did you could say they hit a
home running the ninth. If Otani hit a home running
the ninth, I would buy in.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
It doesn't count. If Miguel Rojas sins it, that's come on,
that's crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You can't give it up to Rojas's but he did,
but he hit a home runoff Hoffman.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
That's that's how it works. I look at it two.
You know what they now, I've got to give it up.
And I was saying, if they lose this, they will
not be up there with the Bronx Zoo Yankees, or
the Big Red Machine now they are, or the Blue
Jays of ninety two ninety three. They won two in
a row, three and six. In this day and age,
rob b Fair, we're not talking about Casey Stengel now
talking about Jacob Rooper. In this day and age. You
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can't win five straight, four straight like the old Yankees.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, no, no, that was twenty five years ago, not
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You have to win three in a row or three
out of four to be a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
The Giants won every other year, they don't count as
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
They never even won back to back.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
But this team did. But this team did, this team
did three and six row win.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I mean, you need to win at least.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm saying that the even though the Giants won three,
they never won back to back even once. I'm just saying, right,
if they won three out of four I would buy
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Three in a row. Oh, a dynasty. The Yankees won
ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Yeah, and they're different. No, they won and they spoiled us.
They spoiled us in the wild Card Era, winning round
after round. We thought, oh, this will happen, and it won't.
They're the Yankee Club, the Bernie Yankees. They're truly special.
All right. What about shoe, Hey Otani? Are you giving
it up for Otani?
Speaker 7 (30:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The guy makes seven hundred million dollars and he's been
almost a zero in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
This year he slung seven hundred. He slung seven hundred
in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Rock he did hold on. He did nothing last year
when they won.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Can you admit that he didn't pitch and he didn't
hit at all and he had the shoulder.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, this year, all right, I'll give you. He had
a couple of big but he had a big game the.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Night, the three for three night or four for four nine,
He had that one big night.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
He started two games. Number, he had a five this number,
he had a five hundred on base slugging seven seventy
eight in the World Series. You have to be a
little more fair, Rob.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Come on, wait a minute, and he also gave up
seven earned runs.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
He did in twelve innings, pitched okay.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Two of them were cashing but yeah, yeah, that first
start was good, but right, the second one was not great.
To give up a three run home run, he gave
up two and then two more were cashed in, so
he pitched okay, he pitched okay.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Beat the average.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
The postseason is two and it is two thirty nine
in the World Series is two thirty nine with three
home runs. I'm not saying he didn't do anything, but
but you cannot coming off of that say this guy's
the greatest baseball player of all time.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
I know he said you're reacting to that sort of hyperbole.
I'm not saying that, but I'm a little more fair.
I'm pumping the brakes. You're jamming on them and pulling
the emergency brake. Take it easy, Rob, we gotta go.
Good stuff. I like the debate. Thank you, my friend, RBK.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Thank you, In the words of New York TV legend
the Lady Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this
time until next time.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Rob Parker out d Cad Davin. This could be an
inside of Parker.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
See you next week, same bat time, same bat station,
From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live
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us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop
on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame
voter number fifty seven, Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Come on, I've been covering Major League baseball for almost
forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,
in LA.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I love this game. Let's go. Welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm your host, Rob Parker, and what a show we
have for you today Barry Bloom, the senior writer for
sportico dot com, and we will have.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
A deep dive on the World Series.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Also Hall of Fame talk as that's gonna approach, how
the health of Major League Baseball where it is in
twenty twenty five, and much more.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto,
if I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer
or broadcaster, old or new.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Now let's welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Barry Bloom, senior writer for sport A call better than
that one of my longtime friends, brother in from the
Baseball Writers Barry, how are you, my man?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I'm doing great, kind of like trying to recover from
covering the World Series, but I've been busy every day,
so you know, baseball offseason goes into the baseball season.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And we should say, with the closure of this twenty
twenty five World Series, that's fifty five zero years in
the books covering Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Man. Next year will be my fortieth.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But my god, fifty years covering the national pastime.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean, that's that's quite an accomplishment. Barry, how does
that feel?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's crazy?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I believe it. I mean, you see it a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know when you even for me, you know, when
you see Vladimir Guerrero Junior and his son being a star,
you know how many players that you've covered, and and
then you see for me. I can remember when Darryl
strawberry sonsy Daryl Strawberry's son made it to the NBA,
you know what I mean, And I went to talk
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to him and I just looked at it. I said,
I remember when you were two or three running around
in the clubhouse, and here you are in the NBA,
which is shocking to me.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, I'll tell you A funny story about that. When
I was covering Bud's run to Aaron and Druth and
all that, Tony Gwinn Jr. Came up from the minor
leagues with the Brewers. They were playing the Giants in
San Francisco and Tony gets his first major league hit.
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It was a double, something like twenty nine years to
the day his father had his first hit and it
was a double. And I was at both games.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's unbelievable, right.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
So I said to Barry afterwards. I told him the story,
and he says, you're gonna carry You're gonna cover our
grandchildren's games.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The other one for me is Cecil and Prince Fielder
in Detroit, right, because I used to go out to
lunch often with Cecil, and guess who was at the
table was just the three of us, Me, Cecil and
a ten.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Twelve year old Prince.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, And then of course he wound up going, you know,
to Detroit and those guys hitting the same amount of
home runs in their career, which is unbelievable, the same
exact number. And to see, you know, Prince, this ten
year old kid. I used to have lunch with his dad.
Be a star in the major leagues was.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Just amazing to me. But let's go here.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
We're here to talk about the twenty twenty five World
Series and it's just a simple answer for.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Me, and I would love to hear your take. Did
the Blue Jays choke or did the Dodgers win this
World Series?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's funny. I had another friend of mine, Stan Fischler,
the Mayven, longtime hockey writer. He's now living in Israel,
and he says.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That, right.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Stan Fishler, when I was growing up, was on a
sports channel with the Olidis.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm sta exactly, but he's he's living in Israel, in
that siege there, and he sends me a note yesterday
asking me the same question. And you know, we go
back to all the chokes, and I think the only
choke in this World Series to me was Jeff Hoffman.
That Jeff Hoffman could have led up a one out
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home run to Miguel Rojas of all people, to tie
that game in the ninth inn with Showy Toddie. I'm
looking at it. I'm going, well, the deck Terricle, Wow,
Tony could make the last out of this World Series.
And then all of a sudden, Rojas puts it right
underneath me in the in the press box for sitting
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into the left field seats. I couldn't even see it
go in because the overhand goes over over the left
field corner, so I had to watch it on replay
to see where it went. But I mean, that's a choke.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm would Marry, I'm with you, like and you can't.
And we talked about you know this. You can't pitch
from behind in baseball. Okay, you can't. Rojas is up there,
he's a major league player.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Okay, he made it to the major league. He knows
you can't walk him. Am I right? Because shohey is.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
On deck exactly, You're not gonna walk him.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Ge't walk him. You gotta throw it over the plate.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's three to two count again, if that's an O
two pitch or whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And if you're gonna lose, you gotta lose on your
best stuff. Throw a fastball, make this guy hit it out.
And it's a choke. Job that is I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And then the Blue Jays barry, how many guys can
you leave on base?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Even in that game?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I will say for the rest of it. I
think the Dodgers just made the plays. I mean, every
ball that the Blue Jays hit in Game six and
Game seven at the end, if it's to the left
of the right, either way, they win that game. You know,
if the ninth inning, if kind of phileffic gets a
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better jump at third, they don't throw him out at
the plate, and that's the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They win.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The line drive to Kiki Hernandez at the end of
Game six, where he's positioned perfectly, pulls himself in seven
feet because he wants to get a better throw at
the plate if he needs to make it, and then
throws a dart to second base because Barger was off
second base too far. I mean, those are the things
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that they made mistakes. But Gee made the plays. I mean,
on the last double play of the game. You know,
I'm watching this, and you know they've got uh, you know,
uh Alejandra Kirk at the plate first and third, and
you can argue, should the abunted Gladdie over that, blah
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blah blah. Okay, but still so, now it goes to
Ohen one strike two. They've got the infield in on
Owen one for the play at the plate. Now, oh
and two. I watched this and I go to Rich
Griffin sitting next to me. They just put the ball.
They just pulled the ball the the infield back into
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double play deft at which they knew because Kirk's the
slowest batter in the league, and they had Yamamoto throw
the ball in exactly the right place for Kirk to swing.
Hit it off the end of his bat break his bat,
hit it right to Mookie Wilson at short. Mookie runs
over the bet.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Rookie Bets.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, rookie Bets basically steps on the base.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh, it's an easy double play. I mean, you couldn't
have but they made the play. But here, but Barry,
here's my thing. I hear all that, and I'm not
going to take that away. The Dodgers batted two oh three.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, Bets didn't hit Freddy Freeman, didn't hit Max Months,
he didn't hit I could go up and down the
line on where they were. And the Blue Jays left
sixty six men on base.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Seventeen.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What were they four for seventeen with runners and score?
I mean, like the numbers are eye popping as far
as you know, like getting a run in the last
three innings of Game seven, they had a runner on
second base with nobody out and didn't score any of
those guys. I mean, I just kept looking at us saying,
I cannot believe that when that moment came, that they
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couldn't produce, you know what I mean, one hit, not
ten hits, one hit in one of those situations. And
I was just surprised. I really thought the Blue Jays
they outplayed the Dodgers. They outscored them thirty four to
twenty six, thirty four to twenty six in the series.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
The Dodgers hit two oh three.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I mean I look up and down, and other than Yamamoto,
they beat up Blake Snell twice. Right, I mean, Barry, if.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I chose the one into the series that they would
do that, and they and they got a three run
home run off of Otani in Game seven, you wouldn't
tell me that the Dodgers would win that series.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Simply they chased Snell out of game in the ninth
inning of Game seven.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Ten they got right, That's what I looked.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Up, rob, I mean, the Yankees were outscored the Pirates
sixty five nineteen in the nineteen seven sixty World Series.
Their wins were ten nothing, fifteen to three, and and
you know, and and fifteen nothing or something. You know,
but and then they lost. All four games were very
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close games. The only games the Pirates scored any runs
was Game seven, they won ten to nine the Masarowski's
home run. So all of this doesn't matter. The fact
that that that the Dodgers batted two of four, that
they were outscored, blah blah blah blah blah. I mean
they had a pitcher who let up what one run
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in the or two runs in the whole run. Yeah,
he had a complete game, right.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But two games don't beat you though it's a four games.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Three was three games because he came in and won
the wins. Came in, so he wins three games. Now
all you have to do is have another win.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
No, they won.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm not gonna take it away from them. They won
and will go from there, I'll guess. Barry Bloom from
Sportico dot com a senior writer who's been covering Major
League baseball for fifty years. Guy, I've known my entire
career out at the ballpark, Barry, Let's turn to Baseball's
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in a nice The last few years especially. I just
think it's in a good spot as far as young
star players and the numbers are starting to turn around.
We saw the Dodgers Yankees World Series, which is really
good for baseball. First time since nineteen eighty one, those
two teams met in a fall Classic.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
This year, the numbers were eye popping.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean, the Game seven of the NBA Finals drew
sixteen point nine and Major League Baseball's Game seven drew
twenty six million, twenty five point nine. And the real
interesting thing to me, Barry, is this that the numbers
from Toronto don't factor in, so that twenty five point
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nine is without having another team, you know what I
mean in the United States, that's an incredible number, because
they said a number in Canada was eleven million.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah. Well, I've been consider the number of people watching
in Japan too, Japan, right, So I mean, like, you know,
my consideration of this is that, you know, you had Japan,
Latin America, Canada, US all represented in this World Series,
with players from all over the place, and it's like
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this baseball is really where it wanted to be when
it started the World Baseball Classic in two thousand and six.
You know, they've internationalized the sport, and they've created places
around the world that are playing baseball now and producing
major league players like from Israel and Italy players never
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never played. The money that went into the federations internationally
all around the world. That that's a hidden topic that
the growth of baseball has happened because of all that.
Now you're seeing it all happen and coming together at
the same time with going into the World Baseball Classic
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again next year where Sasaki O Tani Yamamoto are gonna
play again for Team Japan and they're going to be
the team to beat and the USA is going to
have to put a hell of a team out there
to you know, to get them. And then went down
to the list strike the last time against against Trout,
Atani against Trout. We're there and you know my thing
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is with baseball, just don't screw it up. At this point,
it's like you're heading in such a great, great direction.
I mean, Magic Johnson said this the other night after
the win. Baseball is there, it's worldwide, it's growing. Let's
do this and keep it going.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Right, no doubt about it. I mean, it's it's in
a great spot. And any other thing. So many young stars,
Barry and you know in the game. And I think
sometimes we look at the game and go, why is
baseball dipped or why is it gone down? Well, when
you lose Bonds and Jeter and you know a lot
of these all time clemens, all these great players, Pedro
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Martinez who all retired, Mariano Rivera during a stretch, right
of a five or six year stretch, you're going to
take a dip, right, and they did take a dip.
But now every team you look at there's one or
two young stars, you know that that are people are
looking forward to seeing. Even in Pittsburgh with Paul Skeens,
you know, and and and and.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Tyrek Schoobil in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I can go on and on and on where you
have some all time greats, the young players who can
eventually be all time greats who.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Are on these teams.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You know, even the A's with Rooker, and they've got
a bunch of young guys too that are fun. And
you know what, by the time they if they do
and finally get to Vegas, they're going to have a
good team that's gonna be out there. It's going to
challenge in the AO West you know, I kind of
agree with you. You know, I looked at it, and
you know, I look at it sometimes from the Hall
of Fame perspective, that we had so many players in
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our era, you know, And I call it our era
because that's the height of like when newspapers and we
were all covering.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It, and when newspapers were king my man, we were
at that euro you know, we elected something like twenty
four players from that era into the Hall of Fame,
and we would have had a lot more if Bonds
and Clemmens and Maguire and they d.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Right all those rights.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Guys should be in the Hall of Fame, but they
were all kind of like blackbull because of steroids. So
but now if you look at it where we are,
I worry about what we have for the Hall of Fame.
This this balat this year has is dreadful. It's the
worst that I want to say.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It is Barry I see and I'm an done a
deep dive yet, But just the naked eye looking at
the ballot, I see zero.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well, you know, if maybe Bell Trandell get elected because
he's a holdover, but the only reason he would get
elected is because there's no new people on the ballot
who even have got probably going to return to the
ballot next year, the year after. And so you as
you look at it, now, you've got position players, you
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know coming up. You know, you've got Cabrera, You've got
poll Holes, you know, you've got Molina, You've got so
and that's it right as far as starting pictures go.
Now you're squeezing pictures who are still playing. And Kershaw
just retired.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right, it's going to be five years for him, five years.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, But they're all guys that are going to come in.
You know, Verland there has you know, close to Turner
in seventy wins, so he's authentic. But I mean Sure's
and Kershaw are going to go in with two hundred
and nineteen, two hundred and twenty wins. And you're pigeon
holding these guys in. You know, you're pigeonholding these guys
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in on a much different criteria than you did with
former Hall of Fame pictures.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Now, let me let me ask you this. Okay, I
got that, and that's fair. Things have changed a little
bit and criterias have changed a little bit. Were you
on the Contemporary Committee? Because I gotta admit I'm having
an issue with someone's been on the ballot ten fifteen
years they don't get voted in. I don't understand. To me,
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the contemporary committee sounds feels like a back door, like
like you're like like when they let Harold Bains in
or used to be called a Veterans Committee, or Alan
Trammel or Jack Morris or guys who were on the
ballot for the entire time, they didn't get voted in.
And now I don't even understand what the criteria, Like
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I thought the committee would be for somebody who might
have been overlooked for a reason or something you figured
out and said, hey, you should take another look, but
just to recycle the same guys who didn't make it
and put them on that ballot.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I don't know how that makes any sense.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Well, but that's the way the Veterans Committee has always been,
as you pointed it out. And when they shortened our
ballot from fifteen years to ten years, it created a
whole new class of people who we don't vote for,
who maybe we should have voted for but didn't have
enough time on our ballot, like Burt Blylevin who got
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it in his thirteenth year, or Rains got in late.
I mean there's a lot of guys, you know what Marris,
you know, we probably should have voted in. And he's
a guy who got in the Veterans Committee of the
next year. I mean there are guys Tommy John we
should have voted in.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh, I don't know about Tommy John. He played twenty
five years, eleven wins. I'm gonna disagree.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
With one undred and eighty something wins.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, but he I just twenty five years. That this
is not special.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
We've got worse people in the Hall of Fame than
to Tommy John. Well, I'm just yeah, okay, But you know,
the point is that, you know, you've got also the
special class of people like Bonds and Clemens who are
getting another look at this and this is their second time.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right, like like they already had to look with the committee,
which is made up of former players and team broadcasters
more to me quote unquote favorable group that already denied them,
what would be the reason to put them on the
contemporary ballot again.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
That's now they have a new role that if you
don't get it x amount of votes two times on
the ballot, you can never be on it again. And
because Bonds and Clemens were on it once already, they
were grandfathered in, so they get two more shots at it.
But a lot of the guys who are this ballot,
if they don't get in and they've been on a ballot,
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that all of these people on this ballot, they're going
to have one more shot at it and that's it.
I think I agree with you where okay, give them
one shot, maybe two. But the repetitive nature of it,
where Garvey has been on the ballot like five times, right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Like like what's going to change? His stats haven't changed.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I don't understand what Lodges was on it. I don't
know how many times before he finally was elected. And
you know, and then people you get depending on the committee. Yeah,
there are no broadcasters on it.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's well that was the Veterans Committee, because they used
to have committee.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
You don't have broadcasters on it. It's you know, some Hall
of famers, some Hall of Fame executives, a historian, a
couple of baseball writers. You know, that's what makes up
that committee. But you know, still you have to have
a favorable mix on that committee to get some of
those guys in, you know, like the year Baines got in,
(21:00):
I mean Roland and LaRussa and you know Reinstorf if
they were all on that committee and they pushed for
him to get in. And the year first time Dick
Allen was on it, and he was on it about
three or four times before he got in, he lost
by a vote because Bob Watson was sick, he couldn't
be there. They wouldn't let him do it by phone.
(21:22):
It was like the dead Williams rule, you're not So
they replaced him with Dave Don Prowski, who didn't vote
for Wow. So I mean, and I always sent to Garvey,
you know, while Lasorda was alive. You need like Peter
O'Malley and Losorta and a mix of people on that
committee Claire Smith me, you know, who are all favorable
(21:44):
to you to talk, you know, make a presentation and
talk you in. But if you don't have that, you're
not going to get in. It's really not a fair process.
But the Hall of Fame, none of it is a
fair process. I mean the fact that the guys that
we talked about are not in and not going to
get in until somewhere down the road. When there's a
(22:07):
more enlightened approach to the Hall, You're gonna probably have
a steroid committee that's going to vote these guys in
because they belong in. You can't have a Hall of
Fame that doesn't have the top hit hit guy, Pete Rose.
You know, the top homer guy, Bob you know, and Bob.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I'm gonna we'll we'll part ways on Pete Rose only
because the integrity part of baseball is a big part.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You put it on to just put it on the
on the plaque. Yeah, this is a museum, it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, but his stuff, Barry is in the Hall of Fame.
Your acting as if he's white. Out of the Hall
of Fame. All of his you not have.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You know, like Clemens was the second highest win total
in his era, behind Maddox. He had three point fifty four. Socially,
is the only guy in history the hit sixty home runs.
Palmiero is one of the few guys to have.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
And none of these guys are in the Hall of Fame.
I think actually they will be voted in, But now
we're alive.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, I'm not so sure that everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't want it to be the Basketball Hall of
Fame or the Pro Football Hall of Fame where they're
just putting ten or twelve people in at a time.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Who really weren't the all top grades. Don't. I don't
want to see that happen. But these are pop no
no say in general in general.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And they're just tainted by you know, you know, either
like Rose with the gambling or the other guys with
the steroids. And you know, it's like they have an
ethos there where there's like one or one and a
half percent of the total baseball players are in the
Hall of Fame, and that's the way they want to
keep it. So I don't think that's ever going to change.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It should always be that, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Last thing, I don't believe that this Dodger team is
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
They won in two thousand and then they've won the Less.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Two, so that makes three World Series championships in six seasons.
I believe a dynasty is three in a row or
three out of four.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
The last team to do that was the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I believe that's a real dynasty when a team has control.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
If the Dodgers win.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
This year, they're a dynasty. Three in a row, you know,
but it's like the Giants. The Giants won three in
that five or six year span as well, but every
year after they won the World Series didn't even make
the playoffs the following year. There's no way you can
call that a dynasty. Where are you on a dynasty?
And we'll leave it at this. What's like your criteria
(24:42):
to call on the team a dynasty?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah, I totally agree with you on this one. The
Dodgers are not a dynasty yet, but they are built
to repeat. Yeah, in this playoff era, it's awfully tough.
I mean they had to win twelve games to win
to win the playoff us in the World Series this year,
you know, to go when you have to start in
(25:05):
a wild card round and then go through three other rounds,
it's getting to be like the NBA or the NHL
where you have four full rounds, four out of seven
and you have to win to win the championship. So
you a lot of things injury wise, everything has to
go right. You could have a great regular season, it
doesn't matter if things fall apart in those rounds. So
(25:28):
for them to be a dynasty, you go back to
the Yankee era that you mentioned even then it was
like three out of uh, you know, it was three rounds.
You know, the first round is obviously the DS was
always five.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Games, right, three out of five right back in.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
You know the Yankee Great Errors of the fifties and sixties. Mean,
there was always that joke with Jeter and Yogi about
how tough it was for them to win the World
Series in his era as compared to Yogi's era, and
then Yogi would just hold up his hands, Yeah, he goes,
you can come over. The rings are in my house.
You can come over and see him anytime you want.
(26:09):
But I mean there is something to all that. And
so for the Dodgers to really win again, to three peat,
as pat Riley coined back in the day in Magic, stay,
you know for that if they do it again this year,
and they are built to do it with that team
they have, and I think they have the kind of
guys you know, like betts Otani, they're Yamamoto, They're like
(26:33):
they've won in Japan, they've won over here. They want
to they have the motivation to do it every year.
I mean, Mooki this is his fourth title already with
two different teams. I mean, so he wins one more,
he equals Jeter, so it and all the core floor.
So to me, if the Dodgers win, can repeat it
(26:55):
again next year and do a three peat, which would
be unheard of in this era. But then their dynasty.
But I also think you have to include you know,
you win twelve out of the thirteen l West titles.
The one year you lose, you lost by a game
to the Giants, then you beat them in the NLDS,
So I mean that record is pretty superlative and that's
(27:17):
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, but we saw the Atlanta Bridge win fifteen or
sixteenth straight NLLES title.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
They got one level series right, exactly all right.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
His name is Barry blue Man covers Baseball fifty years
sportico dot com. Check out his column there at the
website and Barry always a pleasure, my man. Thank you
for spending some time with us here on inside the
Parker and enjoyed the off season, my man.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Okay, thanks Parking, this is a lot of fun. Thanks
for having me on.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
In case you missed Rob Parker on the MLB nex Words,
here's his latest appearance on MLBINA.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Showdown Time within now controversial Rob Parker rob great to
have you back on after the World Series. Look, that
was a tremendous World series. But we all have a
few minutes here. Is this a dynasty? What your first
take on that?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
No, it's not a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
First of all, the Blue Jays choked and gave the
Dodgers a world championship.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That parade today in La BK.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Should have been in the north pole because that was
a Christmas present from the Blue Jays to the Dodger.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
They didn't choke it away. They should have won number
of times they didn't. But the Dodgers did win, and
they did win it some. Then they hit a home run.
They'd all run in the ninth, they hit all run
on the eleventh. They won it. They won it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, no, no, no, they choke when you give up.
They were let me tell you this. They were one
ninth place hitter out away from this being a billion
dollar flop. And did you could say they hit a
home running the ninth. If Otani hit a home running
the ninth, I would buy in.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
It doesn't count. If Miguel Rojas sins it, that's come on,
that's crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You can't give it up to Rojas's but he did,
but he hit a home runoff Hoffman.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
That's that's how it works. I look at it two.
You know what they now, I've got to give it up.
And I was saying, if they lose this, they will
not be up there with the Bronx Zoo Yankees, or
the Big Red Machine now they are, or the Blue
Jays of ninety two ninety three. They won two in
a row, three and six. In this day and age,
rob b Fair, we're not talking about Casey Stengel now
talking about Jacob Rooper. In this day and age. You
(29:25):
can't win five straight, four straight like the old Yankees.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, no, no, that was twenty five years ago, not
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You have to win three in a row or three
out of four to be a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
The Giants won every other year, they don't count as
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
They never even won back to back.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
But this team did. But this team did, this team
did three and six row win.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I mean, you need to win at least.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm saying that the even though the Giants won three,
they never won back to back even once. I'm just saying, right,
if they won three out of four I would buy
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Three in a row. Oh, a dynasty. The Yankees won
ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Yeah, and they're different. No, they won and they spoiled us.
They spoiled us in the wild Card Era, winning round
after round. We thought, oh, this will happen, and it won't.
They're the Yankee Club, the Bernie Yankees. They're truly special.
All right. What about shoe, Hey Otani? Are you giving
it up for Otani?
Speaker 7 (30:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The guy makes seven hundred million dollars and he's been
almost a zero in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
This year he slung seven hundred. He slung seven hundred
in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Rock he did hold on. He did nothing last year
when they won.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Can you admit that he didn't pitch and he didn't
hit at all and he had the shoulder.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, this year, all right, I'll give you. He had
a couple of big but he had a big game the.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Night, the three for three night or four for four nine,
He had that one big night.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
He started two games. Number, he had a five this number,
he had a five hundred on base slugging seven seventy
eight in the World Series. You have to be a
little more fair, Rob.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Come on, wait a minute, and he also gave up
seven earned runs.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
He did in twelve innings, pitched okay.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Two of them were cashing but yeah, yeah, that first
start was good, but right, the second one was not great.
To give up a three run home run, he gave
up two and then two more were cashed in, so
he pitched okay, he pitched okay.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Beat the average.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
The postseason is two and it is two thirty nine
in the World Series is two thirty nine with three
home runs. I'm not saying he didn't do anything, but
but you cannot coming off of that say this guy's
the greatest baseball player of all time.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
I know he said you're reacting to that sort of hyperbole.
I'm not saying that, but I'm a little more fair.
I'm pumping the brakes. You're jamming on them and pulling
the emergency brake. Take it easy, Rob, we gotta go.
Good stuff. I like the debate. Thank you, my friend, RBK.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Thank you, In the words of New York TV legend
the Lady Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this
time until next time.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Rob Parker out d Cad Davin. This could be an
inside of Parker.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
See you next week, same bat time, same bat station,
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