Are You Convinced?

Are You Convinced?

What happens when two experts with very different views go head-to-head over the key issues surrounding young people today?  Tension!? - disbelief!? - - The "dynamic duo" are back! Joining forces to shine a light on a wide range of topics impacting children and young people. Each episode the duo will take turns to persuade each other to see an issue in an entirely new way. They will bring guests in to bolster or judge their position and at the end of the debate, they will ask that all important question… "Are You Convinced?" Ndidi Okezie (CEO of UK Youth) and Laura McInerney ( Co-founder of Teacher Tapp) are back in the hot seats! The pair are known to disagree in the most entertaining of ways. Get ready for a fun ride. Subscribe today and join in. We know you'll be hooked from the start.

Episodes

June 8, 2022 55 mins

*Content warning: contains discussion of self-harm and suicide.*

Please call the Samaritans on 116 123 or contact jo@samaritans.org if you are in distress or need help with any of the issues discussed.

Is professional burnout inevitable? Ndidi doesn't think it is but Laura thinks it is inevitable for some people.

This weeks guests are Samuel Kasumu, a former Special Advis...

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Do schools deserve an extra £15billion? Laura thinks that other people deserve it more and for once, Ndidi pretty much agrees!

This weeks guests are Former head of the Education Endowment Foundation and former Covid Education Recovery Commissioner, Kevan Collins and senior adviser to Ark schools and a senior fellow at the Institute for Government, Sam Freedman...

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May 11, 2022 44 mins

Is univeristy worth it? Ndidi thinks it's an important key to unlocking a bright future but Laura isn't sure on the financial balance around it

This week's guests are Shakira Martin, Head of Student Experience at Rose Bruford College and David Gallagher, Chief Executive Officer at NCFE

The group discuss what a degree represents, whether univeristy is important for life skills and the value of...

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April 28, 2022 44 mins
Have GCSEs had their day? Laura thinks they can't be the be all and end all, Ndidi agrees but isn't sure there's a better alternative. This weeks guests are Daisy Christodoulou, Director of Education at No More Marking and Tom Sherrington, Education Consultant and author. 

The group discuss whether more or less of the curriculum should be assessed, the purpose of GCSEs and what those alternatives could be.

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Should young people have the day off school to attend protests? Laura thinks so but Ndidi isn't sold on the logistics of it. This weeks guests are chief operating officer of the school student-led activist organisation Burst the Bubble UK, Eli Sassoon and founder & CMO of Thred Media, Jenk Oz.

The group discuss how to encourage activism in the classsroom, whethe...

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July 6, 2021 4 mins
Laura and Ndidi share highlights and audience reactions to the season.  
 
A special thank you to everyone that has taken the time to engage, tweet, rate and review us. We've seen all your comments and we're excited that you love the show as much as we love making it. 
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Can youth workers support young people at risk of violence better than teachers? Surprisingly, Laura thinks so, and Ndidi has always been behind a joined-up approach between schools and youth centres to tackle this ever-difficult issue. But how can we get tangible results that support young people in this situation?

 

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Ndidi worked in the formal Education sector for a number of years; first as a teacher, then at Education charity Teach First before moving on to Pearson. But it's only since she began working in the youth sector, as CEO for UK Youth, that she realised the wealth of expertise outside of the formal education bubble. She thinks teachers and youth workers should be trained together.

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From September 2020 all schools across England were mandated to teach sex and relationship education including the very important topic of consent. However, there are many things that are supposed to be on the curriculum that aren't. Laura puts forward her proposition that consent should be taught in schools, in conjunction with police to highlight the legal aspects young people need to know. Ndidi disa...

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May 11, 2021 45 mins

Ndidi is exhausted that race is still framed as a topic of debate. She wants to stop talking about race, and focus on lived experiences of people from Black, Asian, and ethnic minorities to better understand and improve experiences for young people and adults.

We are joined by Jon Cornejo who is an anti-racism consultant, as well as an organiser at Charity So White. Amjad Al...

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*Content warning: discussion of self-harm, suicide and other mental illness.*

 

Please call the Samaritans on 116 123 or contact jo@samaritans.org if you are in distress or need help with any of the issues discussed.

 

Even before coronavirus hit, many young people were struggling with the...

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In a post-pandemic environment, will a cross-sector strategy secure young people's futures? Ndidi tries to convince Laura that this is vital, but Laura thinks otherwise.

With special guests Anne Longfield, former Children's Commissioner of England, and Jonathan Simons, Director at Public First and Head of The Education Strategy along for the ride, get ready for disagreement,...

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March 31, 2021 1 min

Ndidi Okezie (CEO of UK Youth) and Laura McInerney (Co-Founder of Teacher Tapp) are back. Joining forces to shine a light on a wider range of topics impacting children and young people.

Each episode our duo will take turns to persuade each other to see an issue in an entirely new way. They will bring guests in to bolster or judge their position and at the end of their time, they will ask that all important question…"Are You Convinc...

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Please Note: This episode is from our previous series called Go With Me On This

 

The final episode of our pilot series is on the difficult and often taboo topic of Knife Crime. In this emotional episode, Ndidi argues that 'Schools cannot be expected to solve knife crime', whilst Laura passionately seeks to convince her otherwise. This episode throws up a few surprises for both Ndidi and Laura as they try to change each other's min...

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Please Note: This episode is from our previous series called Go With Me On This
 
In this episode it's Laura's turn to take the stand and defend what some see as unthinkable. In this heated conversation Laura believes that there are other ways to prepare children for the world of work than careers education, and that there are better ways to use the school's time. It's a tough task, but Laura can be very ...
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Please Note: This episode is from our previous series called Go With Me On This

In this episode, Ndidi argues that the mainstream media are the biggest influence on the brand of teaching. Is Ndidi's 'brand' of debate going to swing Laura and guests around to her way of thinking? And will she be able to convince you? Listen to the episode and tell us on Twitter
 
This week's guest experts are Lord Jim Knight, Chief Education Advis...

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Please Note: This episode is from our previous series called Go With Me On This

In this episode, Laura argues that parents should leave the educating of their child to the school. Is she going to be able to sway Ndidi and guests around to her way of thinking? Will she be able to convince you? 

 
This week's guest experts are Mark Lehain, Head of Parents and Teachers for Excellence, and Sonia Meggie, award winning diversity consulta...

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Please Note: This episode is from our previous series called Go With Me On This
 
In this episode, Laura argues that knowledge should be the single biggest priority in a school's curriculum. But she faces strong opposition to this idea from Ndidi and guests Oli de Botton, Headteacher and co-founder of School 21, and Lewis Iwu, co-founder of Purpose Union and author of the book 'Words That Win'.
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