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June 18, 2025 70 mins

In the latest episode, Rachel continues her enlightening dialogue with Jon Atack, a prominent expert on authoritarian cults. This episode serves as a critical reminder of the psychological tactics that leaders employ to manipulate their followers, often leading them to act against their own interests.


The conversation kicks off with Rachel and Jon discussing the nature of leadership and the subtle ways in which individuals can be led astray. Atak, who has dedicated his career to understanding cult dynamics, shares compelling insights into how leaders can sway followers by playing on their emotions and fears. He emphasizes that the ability to think critically is essential in recognizing and resisting these manipulative behaviors.


Jon highlights the importance of understanding the mechanisms of control that are often at play within various societal structures, including politics, religion, and even personal relationships. He argues that many individuals fall victim to these tactics due to a combination of cognitive dissonance and emotional conviction, which can cloud their judgment and lead to compliance with harmful ideologies.


Throughout the episode, Bernstein and Atack explore the broader implications of these dynamics, touching on how educational systems often fail to equip individuals with the tools necessary for critical thinking. Atack's work, including his influential book "Opening Our Minds," sheds light on the pervasive nature of cultic behaviors and their prevalence in everyday life.


Find out more about Jon and his work at:

⁠https://jonatack.co.uk/⁠


Listen and watch the second half of the conversation now at:

⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠


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Watch Video Episodes of IndoctriNation on YouTube:

⁠https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS&si=WY1uOVw5E_4GFu_A⁠



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