"Joyful Joyful" (w/ Constantine Rousouli)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look may oh, I see you my own look over
there is that culture? Yes, goodness, lost culture ding, Lost
Culturesa's calling.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Before we got on, I said lost culture, like as
if we had to snap into it.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I feel like we've never had to really hit the
dials before in that way. But we were coming off
of like a spirited discussion about what we will never tell.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We will never tell what we just told. It's actually
the culture number nine. We will never tell what we
just told. And I'm also in my like literal morning showbag.
You are you are warmed up chatterbox. You are doing
a great job. You look so good on that TV.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you when those cameras is really I gotta say,
really good.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So snatched and you wore like a blue moment. Yeah,
blue is the warmest color. Actually, Culture number ten, blue
is the warmest color.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
How has it been so before? You just finished day
two five? I'm having the best time. Isn't it wonderful?
I told matthis we checked in yesterday. I was like,
how was it? He was like, it's great, it was, It's.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
So fun, And I go, I like, totally get white
people did this is a nice gig.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's so much fun. And by the way, the sound
dude who's an icon loves you. Oh, I love him
and you beloved. Get this bowe Yang beloved in thirty rock.
It's actually a real culture number eleven. Get this bow Yang
beloved in thirty rock.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And you know thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Rockefeller Center is in the heart of one of the
greatest cities in the world, New York City, and there
has been an off Broadway musical You're never gonna believe this.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I really do feel like I'm doing the morning show.
You're gonna believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
You're never gonna believe you need to.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
There has to be a list somewhere of like little
filler phrases for talk shows in journal but especially morning
shows were.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Like this, you at this? Yet I found myself doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Coming up, we have a cooking demo from No, No,
No No. My segments were makeover. Loved that we're getting
a make over on Friday. I love the makeovers. Yeah,
this is gonna be funny. And then guy who showed
us how to properly use a plunger.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That's actually really good.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
And you know what I asked him, Guys, listen up,
you can wash the plunger with your toilet water. What
after you plunge, make sure you flush, obviously, put a
little bit of bleacher whatever toiletowle cleaner you have in there,
and then just like you just dip it in, kind
of rinse it out, and then that that's all you
have to do. I always got so stressed out after
my shit covered plungers would come out the toy.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And now thinking, I just want to apologize. I just
moved out of my apartment that I had been renting
from one Matt Rish and I apologies.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Dude, that plunger is covered in poop. You could have
rinsed it.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
No, I couldn't have because I didn't I didn't know.
I didn't have you here to tell me what to do.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Morning TV is so important.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
But I could never talk about poop covered plunge on TV.
You know what I'm saying. This is why I'm so
happy to be here. I feel like I can only
breathe because I'm with my sister and this is not
morning TV.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Although people do listen to it in the morning. Can
you imagine listening to us in the morning. No, No,
I would.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I would say, well, I guess maybe if you want
to be like shocked, into the day.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, get the fag off the rays. I'm not
listening to that.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know what I almost did today is my I
don't think so honey. I don't think so honey that
this podcast has become popular. M I just feel like,
maybe I will do it later, do it later, because
then people are like, why are they screaming during I
don't think so honey, And I'm like, babe, you're joining
us in progress.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's in mediares.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
We scream during that part of the podcast and during
a lot of the other parts of it too.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Here's what I screamed for. Oh wait, I just cut
you off. I'm never gonna believe this. She was an
off Broadway show in New York.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Can I say you literally did not cut me off?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I feel like I diverted. Well, your feelings are in facts, bitch? Okay,
Hey Trump.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's hey Trump, your feelings aren't fact. That's really close
roun Bird twelve, Hey Trump, your feelings.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Aren't fast bitch? Watch that be the headline.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I would love that. Yeah, I mean, should lost coach
start a feud with Trump? We have to move to
Ireland like Rosie m m.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, listen, so what are you scream for?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I screamed for this off Broadway show that's been in
New York for a few years now. It has been
truly a community building, cornerstone for theater, for theater goers,
for people in the community, for tourists from all over
the world. My own mother saw this show, and I
would never take my mom to any Broadway show.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
She slept through Hamilton. See, I don't get that because
it's so loud.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
It's a loud show. But we went on a Sunday
after an SNL and we were all tired.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Lyn manwel this has nothing, has nothing to do with you,
So you did amazing work on Hamilton. It's actually really
close to number thirteen. Did amazing on Hamilton.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Has nothing to do with you that his mom fall asleep.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But listen, I think I know what all you're talking about,
and that show is Titanique. And I know that because well,
our guest is not only one of the original stars
of it, but also the co creator, co writer. And
I feel as though I have to harken back to
the very first time I saw Our Guests, which was
at La Poison Rouge in a iconic production of Crewe

(05:11):
Intentions to the musical Unauthorized, which also starred Amanda Schecktman.
She was playing Sarah Michelle Geller and our guest was
playing Ryan Phillippi. And one of the first things I
ever saw was your bare ass, And now he shows
his ass.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Every guy, damn night night out in public.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
But no, this is like truly a moment in time
because we saw this show Titanique, and we were literally
took to the mics and just let everybody know. And
I've been so proud to see what it's done. I
just saw it in the West End, It's in Australia,
it's in Canada. It's like it's all over the place.
I mean, this is a true success story. It's now
an Olivier Award winning musical. Our guest is an Olivier

(05:54):
Award winner drama desk.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Lucia Ortelle.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
The one except Tony's so I get there until get
their ship together.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
But they kind of just nailed it on some of
the nominations. They just say, we.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Can talk about that, we can talk about that. He's
so wonderful. What a funny writer, performer, talent, friend traveler,
world traveler. We're talking about that always around the world,
always around the world with his hot little friends everyone.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Result, Oh my god, first of all, all to that introduction,
I am so gooped and gagged to be here with
my girls.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
We've got to say the big news, which is yes,
oh my god, titany you can see it in New
York until June fifteenth.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
And then do you want to tell them what's so
special about those final weeks? Yeah? Hot, off the press, everyone, press,
Marlon and Della and I will be coming back into
the show for the final two weeks. And if we,
you know, sell out lots and lots and lots of tickets,
maybe we'll pull a Fantom of the Opera and extend
for another say that on this show. I don't know,
we'll see maybe, you know, all of these last cult

(06:57):
people there figured out there's now.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So many readers, Katie's publicists and finalists like and I
think that Ken Kyle's you have an opportunity here, You
have a big opportunity. Yes, because how many times did
you do.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
It in the in the new space, the bigger space,
the bigger space, like a year? A year? Yeah, because
it was like half a year. It was like six
months at the old UCB space. That you guys know
the asylum, you know, in the basement of a Gristides,
which was wild, just moulled rats and it smelled awful.
It was just really bad. But you know what it
was like our favorite time.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, where were your dress? Like where did you guys
do changes? And where was what was the dress behind
the literally or in like a close But there's no space.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, there's not, absolutely nothing. It was those two rooms
and we split all the boys in one and all
the girls. Huh right.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
And then there were the guts, like those gray brick hallways,
not brick even, it was just like those but those
were the smelly part.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
That was gress. There was always an water on the floor.
Oh absolutely, it was the actual Titanic. I was like,
this is very on brand. Let's go here.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Were there like Grissdi's basement specific jokes in the original show?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes, we at the end of the show, while I
was saying thank you for coming tonight in the basement
of a And then we had to switch it. You
know when we left, when you moved, when we moved
to the theater which is in Union Square, Yes, I
knew where Oh my god, just.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
My god, thee where's that is watching the ghost the
ghost of what is?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I don't remember. All I remember is taking a gummy
and I was so yeah heart radio. I was so
fucking high that I looked up and remember that they
had this like water crazy and I saw it. Okay, well, anyway,
there was this immersive crazy. No one knows what it is.
They're they're up in the rafters in this water thing,
and I thought I was a drowning the panic attack. See.

(08:55):
Immediately left and got food and got food and put
myself because I was like, I've got to get got
to get the fuck out of drowned before I drown
and die. Yeah, I'm on the floor, like, get it
together quick, it happens.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I remember one time I was too high in the
pool and I had to get out because I was
positive I was going to be attacked by a shark.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's these gummies, babe. I think that was myth. That
was math right, That was as gum. That was a
myth attacked with a vivance pilled little rainbow sprinkles.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Y'all don't y'all don't fuck with water though, but y'all
are y'all are so tied to water.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
In so many ways being Greek.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Wait, though, we mean you're I I do think I'm
a pisces person, you know what I mean Greek.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Also, you're a titaniumque water. I mean I'm an Aries.
So she's fire as hell? Is that custo full Aries? Okay,
full Aries? No, custop is the twenty first, which is
pisces aries? Okay, because my sister's a twenty first, So
she's she's a cuspy Yeah, cuspy, but we love her.
Hyrne him you cuspy, asked shady bits? Are there the sis?

(10:09):
She's two years older, best friend. Amazing you kind of
give a little brother. Oh, I'm the child baby, No,
I mean it's perfect Aries. I'm the baby of the zodiac,
as the baby of the d Yeah, you can either
look at it as like baby of the zodiac or
like the super like grandmother. Who's whose grandmother?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Then's who's on the other side of areas that it's
supposed to like be like the end.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Of I don't know, well that's oh, yeah, I'm last,
So you're I am the grandmother.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Jima, Hi, baby, my baby boy, proud of you.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You've done well.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I die, God, death, it's so awful.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
And so why did you want to capitalize on it
with Titanic Death on death? Because you know what, it's
going to be a brutal death when we leave New
York City. And that's because you people didn't want to
buy tickets. So I'm kidding. I mean, it's listen, we've
lasted three years, which is yeah in these in dem
streets now and in dem times.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Can you believe that off, a little tiny ass off
Broadway show could literally survive three years of a pandemic
into Trump? Yeah, it's just absolutely mind boggling that we
still have been here and we've you know, now gone
all over the world. And I have to say I
have to say, and I always say this, it's literally
because of you too. No, yes, I'm sorry, it's true.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
If you're okay, let's assume that's true. What is not
true is that it's both of us. I think it
does squarely fallen. Now listen to me, both of you.
All I know is and we're both gonna take this.
We saw the show and it was like it just
reminded me. It actually literally inspired me because I was like, a,

(11:55):
I'm not dragging what goes on on Broadway in fact,
I think it's been a great few cut last couple
of years.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
But I also think that the influence of.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
That show and how much joy it brought and how
much real comedy it brought, as well as like the
incredible music obviously of Sline Deon, it just feels like
it was a joyful idea that then became a joyful
process that then became a joyful performance that then resulted
in all this like joyful like discussion and consumption of it.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, it was I mean, listen, joyful consumption front runner
for time. Thank you, thank you, joyful, joyful sisteract too,
go into it really good. It was easy to talk about.
So you guys were so wonderful, I mean granted, like
I had known of you, we had met a couple
of times, and then you guys were just so lovely
and you really like champions this little tiny baby project

(12:46):
in the bottom of Grisid's and you got you put
the word out there, so like we are so grateful.
I am so grateful. I love you. I mean, I
just want to reiterate that.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
To the listeners because it's really true, like you have
people who champion you and like push you forward and
and you guys are so incredible at that and always
paving the way for other people.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
And it's not just one sided. You're just uplifting and
I'm so inspired by both of you and I love
you to death. That is my I don't think, I
don't think. Sorry, I mean I always I always tell you,
but I really need everybody to know that, like everybody
has their own path and like people can be nice
and help each other out in this crazy ass business

(13:28):
in the world. Everybody just be kind and be nice. Yeah, absolutely,
and it really just goes a long way. And we
are you know, we're just we love you and we're
so thankful.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, we have always I've seen the show. I can
count on two hands now the number of times I've
seen it.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
But I think.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Across the world on the weekend, I literally we were
in London for how many days.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
We had to see what it was giving you and
you have to giving our babies are giving. I love
really good and vocal. The vocal, I mean, everybody's vocals
are insane in the show, like truly unbelievable, but like
the vocals in London, I'm like, you monsters know how
to sing.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, it's giving Olivier Award winning and nominated performers.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
All yeah, but uh an Iceberg, bitch one Olivier. Yeah,
congratulating Lane is truly unbelievable. Yeah, I mean the whole
cast is unbelievable. I love them to death. I just
saw them. I was in London last night. I got back.
I can't believe. Traveler Paris, then London, London, Milan. Yeah, yeah, anyway,

(14:38):
but yeah, the London production is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's at the Criterion. Go see it if you're in London,
and that's ongoing.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
That is running until as of now, I think January
of twenty twenty six, so work work and now it's
in Paris as well. Work Unbelieved. Went to the theater
in Paris, went to the theater in Paris, the Leedo Theater.
It's at the Champs de in the Fierce area. The
Crazy Horse.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh my god, can you talk about that crazy I
think I think I think we should go.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
You guys, let's go. No, no, no, no, it's you. We're
going to Friends next one. Okay, well, period, it has
to be first on your list. It's one of the
best shows I've ever seen in my life. Wow. The
women are I'm gay as hell. The women are the
hottest things I've ever seen. I got it truly like
stunning tits, good tits, but like not fake. It's just
like natural gorgeous bodies. Okay, and I heard that from

(15:26):
their tit to their navel. They all have to have
the exact same inches, but they can have like little
like kitten heels and like, I don't sorry, best half
an inch off. It's the road. Literally you can choke best. Wow,
you'll never get this job, but you know it's unbelievable.
But it's it's so precise in the lightning. It's the art.

(15:47):
It is art. It is art. It's like Picasso. I'm like,
what the fuck am I seeing? It is crazy? The
most unreal horse I've ever seen? Do they bring out
a horse? No?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I wish look at that that horse?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
We should We should see Cowboy Carter in Paris and
then we are we are you making a horse?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
There? We have?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
We were told someone was getting the tickets Matt supposed
to buy us tickets are so okay, what yes, okay,
so our plan you we're gonna be can from the
fifth the nineteenth because we're promoting our Cultural Awards which
you have performed on. We won we Want the Best
Indoor Live performance went to Tights two years ago.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Best night in my life, by the way, that was.
That was so much you guys. If you can ever
get to a live taping, life taping, live taping, live taping,
I know, isn't it crazy? I felt like it was
like the gay super Bowl. I came out and they
were like, and I was like, wait, you have no
idea who I am, but I love this and I
was eating it up. But they did know. Our audience was.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Just as excited for Titanique as they were for like
when Julia Fox came.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Out exactly you guys. I felt it. I mean, my
my pussy fell out. I was like, oh my god,
this is what it's like to like be Lady Gaga
in front of like everybody.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
There were at least two hundred people in that crowd
Who've seen you be Fierro, seen you be you know
what I mean, have seen you on COLT.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Wait literally, let's talk about this.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
So you've been Fierro and Link and Jack and Jack
and Ryan Phillippi, Wow, and I'm gay as hell.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, look that you can do it. You can do
it too. I mean gay actors work.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
First of all, let's talk about that Fierro, which is
Jonathan Bailly in the movie. Then we got Link who's
zach Efron in the movie. Then we have Leo DiCaprio
heard of him, who's Jack in the film. And then
we have Ryan Phillippy. That's a bang off if I've
ever that is a demon twink.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
That is a demon twins dream come true, like lollapaloose. Listen,
I don't take it for granted. Honey, Okay, it's come
you were tying it all together. Yeah, that mentally ill
broke as version. Cool. Stop holler at me at Constantine Zulia.
You know they will, they will, they holler, they holler

(18:02):
you come up on my hinge a lot, because it's
like these are like these are the hot guys hop
top shelves. I don't want to say hello well because
I'm like, first of all, someone I know, it's like
it's so weird, it's weird, and it's a weird thing
because some people then take it because you've done this before,
when you like see a friend and you're like, hey, stupid,
I see you, and you're like whatever, and then it

(18:23):
says that. Then there's other people who take it too
far and like, wow, actually man is really into me.
And then you're like, wait, actually that was a joke.
I'm achsicle. And then you have to know.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
You can't even be like too clear about it. You
can't clarify by the way I am attracted to you,
but I don't think we would be a good man.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's like, but why would you like would give you later?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Hey, I know that we just did this crazy bit
on a hinge, but calling to say i'd be down
that I'm I get less crazy, I get less demisexual
as I get older, because I just value my friendship
so much.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know what I'm saying. It's like, but it's hard.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's a hard thing to figure out when you're a
gay guy with fun, cool, attractive friends, because of course.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's really hard to be a gay guy with attractor
look at us.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
What I mean is like, it's what I mean is
it's like, it's a difficult thing mentally because it's like
you short of get in your head of like okay,
well why not. Well then it's like and friendships are important,
of course, you know what I mean. And I'm like
It's like I said to a friend recently, I was
talking about like a mutual friend of ours, and I
was like, yeah, I don't know. I just had kind
of a thought and my friend goes, you know what
that is friendship? That's actually okay, And I was like, okay, yeah,

(19:33):
it doesn't have to be a thing. I do gymnastics
in my head about you know what I mean. Sometimes
it's like, yeah, I have a friend that I'm like
a little attracted to, and it's my friends, and I
can have that boundary absolutely.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
How long.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
What's the tradition of you and Jake and Gus and
like and like those pals.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
On my besties, your best You guys are always I
know we are. It's just they're monsters. They're truly absolute monsters,
and I wish them nothing but negativity. That's a shout
out to my girls, my my ed man nas. We
have a we have our threat as mommesters. We're all

(20:07):
getting tattoos, I say, ermanas, but like one's getting her
I'm and I think Gus is not not together like
you guys. Okay, someone's taking a side in the battle.
Please welcome the same. Yeah, they're the best. I mean
they're my brothers, Like they're the brothers I never had.

(20:28):
I've known Jake for like twenty years now, which is insane.
We met on Facebook because everybody said we used to
look alike, which we do. We have the same hair,
We're like very twinning twinning. But back in the day
when we were actual twinks, people would stop me on
the street and be like, are you Jake Wilson go
be Blue And I'm like, what are you talking about?
And then they go to him and like are you

(20:49):
constant mud? And he was like who is that? And
then he found me on Facebook and he was like, whoa,
I think we should go out for a drink. And
then he my MySpace, my Space stroke. Then he then
he facebooks me and he's like, let's go out for
a drink. And I'm like okay. As like everybody says
we look alike doppelganger, I met him.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
We go to wait for this Bourbon Street forty sixth Street,
remember that place?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Wow, back in the day dating in that area. Why
I used to live on fifty second and ninth Like
above therapy, which is hushning, wow, good luck with my project.
Go to sleep, like literally, go to sleep. Sleep, no,
can't too much, too much thumping. So yeah, that's how
we met and I was like, l you are rich

(21:31):
and we'll never date. And then years later we crossed passing,
so wait you went on a date though initially initially
and I was like hah, this is fun. Cool bye.
So there was no smooth ring nothing. And then two
years later I'm on tour with Legally Blonde in La.
Were you in Legally Blonde? I was nkos that one,
and then I warner after so yeah vibes wo yeah

(21:56):
with no career way to the middle.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well then I was like because wait, okay, so so
you guys meet up two years later.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Two years later in my roommate at a time and
another like very good friend coordination, she was like, hey,
my best friend from college is coming and I was like, yeah, cool, whatever,
he can stay in our apartment and she goes, well,
there's no bed, so like you have the king size
best food, I guess he's gonna have to stay in
your room. And I was like, Corney, that's literally and
then she was like I was like who is and
she's like, oh, it's Jake Wilson. And I was like,
are you hitting me? I was like that guy who's

(22:26):
like my doppelganger and since the last time two years okay, okay.
Then she shows up to La like a bat out
of hell, comes into like into the fucking oak Wood
Sweet Apartments, and I was like, hon what is happening?
And then you know, bestie's ever since slept in my bed.
We like turned. It was like one of those movies,
and I was like, I think we're gonna be and
then we're like kickle like key key gaggle.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I love that. It was the best ever. And then
Gus came in, you know, ten years later and just
wreaked havoc. Yes, sure, yeah, y'all.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Three of y'all are the best, and there's but there's
like the right men of chaos there from.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Each of you, oh beyond you know what I mean.
And I think like, yeah, buddy system three great, you
know what I mean. I can never travel with anybody else.
There's three of us. That's it.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Wait, but did you feel seen by White Lotus.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
We were just in Paris and London and I brought
them and I brought them as my dates opening and
we were like we are the basic pitches from White
Lotus and I was like, which ones are you?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I was like, go, we just did that last week
with told Kim. Yeah, we cast ourselves. Who are you
in the in the three?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I'm I would probably be Michelle. Yeah you're Michelle. I'm Michelle.
I'm Michelle to I'm a Michelle? And then who are you?
Who are you? I think I'm carrying on.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah. I think Joel is just so Leslie Bib big
trumper that you got a fan and Joel Kim Booster
t are you MP? More like JK b es actually remember,
more like j k B.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
He's gonna he is going to punch all of us.
I feel like it, love it totally. Ye are you
dating now? M m? He's on him? Jingle as hell?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
What do you want? What's what's on the load? What
do you want? What you want?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I need to do a pros and cons list, and
I feel like I've been told it's like the thing
you're supposed to do and I still haven't gone around
to doing it.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
So give us yours pros. Be an actual human, be
a legit person. I need you to do the fucking work.
Get up every day, meditate, go to therapy. I mean,
know who you are, have a great relationship with your
family and friends, and just like respect yourself and respect people,
love people, care about people. I don't know, have something

(24:54):
that makes you wake up every morning. And I want gratitude.
I want a funny person. I want a kind, respectful
human gets it. Just don't play games like these. These
fucking gays are wild. They're wild, and it's always like
what's what's you know around the corner? It's like, you
know what, how about you just look in front of

(25:15):
you and get to know a human and like pull
back a fucking layer instead of sitting there and being
like you're really cool for the moment and then but
I'm completely looking around the corner. Well that's like all
of la, which is why I moved.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Well that's why I had to leave you to You're
you're a little incensed about this.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I am. I'm pissed. Yeah, no, okay, so talk about this.
Have you been run around? Oh for years? Time? For years?
Run around? Or the ghosting is actually, can we not
ghost me anymore? Why would Why would someone ghost you?
Because I feel like people they think that they know
what they want, they think that they're ready for a
relationship where they're ready to, you know, open up and
they have It's no idea, it's all bullshit, and you know,

(25:52):
it's like it's face value, it's it's a facade. It's like, Okay,
I get it, you're insecure, and this is how you
go about doing that. But you should also be a
respectful human and say, I don't know, it's communication if
you're not feeling it, if you're asking me out and
you're pursuing me and you've DMed me and slid into
my fucking DMS and found my phone number and sent

(26:12):
a letter by stork, and then then you have the
audacity to not even respond. After we go out on
a date and it was actually good and you're telling
me these things like, wow, this was incredible. You're really
an amazing person. I'm so happy we met, and then
a full on ghost. At least grow the fucking balls.
We are too old. We are too old. You can
easily I would respect you when so much more if

(26:35):
you came to me and said, hey, that was incredible,
You're an amazing person. I just don't think we're a match.
I would love to be friends, and i's not.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know, I'm happy we got to do that, and
I'm like, you know what, incredible, thank you, And I
have to say, like, I think people are doing it
more than they were, But I get I get those
messages and I'm not upset me neither. All I feel
is fine about it. Wow, that's awesome. Maybe we could
be friends. I do have a lot of friends.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
But I'm happy you're honest and open totally instead of well,
that's also coming from people who actually, you know, are
not going to freak out and go insane because we're
not insecure totally. So it's like, like, you do the
work whatever, I would love to I'd rather hear that.
And I feel like the other people who are ghosting
are so insecure that they're probably afraid of the other
person's that's gonna they're gonna yell out in confrontation, and

(27:25):
I get it, but like, you will be better off,
trust me, because I'm going to see your ass at
a fucking party and I'm going to say all over
New York City and or all over the world. Yeah,
so why make it awkward? That's what sucks. Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
The thing that chraps my ass is like how small
the gay community is where it's like, yeah, I did
it this person? And I did not well or whatever,
I'm dealing with this, and someone was like, well, who
is it.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm like, you don't know them? They do who is it?
And then I say the name and it's like, oh yeah,
this person.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
And I'm just like I'm in hell because I'm just like,
it makes you feel like you're in like a rat maze,
you know what I mean, Like, no matter what, you're
gonna end up at like a dead end, like you're
gonna run out of like which is a crazy thought.
But I do think it's worse in LA than New York.
Like my bit is like there's like six million gays
in New York and thirty three in Los Angeles. Like, so,

(28:16):
like broadening scope in terms of dating has become like
important to me because I kind of do want ultimately
my partner to be someone that's like my partner, Like
I don't really want to hear about their history, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Totally yeah, because there could be one hundred days in
a room and ninety nine and ninety nine I fucked
each other, literally all fucked each other. That's a river fifteen.
There could be on launch days.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Fucked each other. But only takes one to believe in you.
And that's about the Cooper. Well, yes, wait, hard lunch
with GG. Though hard Lunch with GG, we dispel the rumors.
They hard launched their relationship on one of those. So
she posted a carousel and it was number in the carousel.
We just talked about carousel.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Hey you good? Are you good? Carousel?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I'm having a full blown stroke, both of you.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I had strokes today this morning. I mean, God forbid,
but literally you just got We just gone for a plane.
I'm still jet lagged as hell. Yeah, well I understand.
We just did the best carousel at the Universe in Orlando.
You have to go. It's in Celestial Park. Can't wait.
You Hermona should go to Caramana should go to Orlando, Orlando.

(29:34):
Why haven't you been on that show? I originally auditioned
for it the What's His Faces? Stand by and rentals
and you actually got me the audition. Oh I love that.
And then I went in but it was or he
had told them he was like, you should really see
Connie for this. But it was like back in the
day when I was so young, and it was the
time when they weren't giving scripts out to anybody. I

(29:54):
don't like that. So I had to go in at
ten am learn that crazy songs. And then they're like,
by see you at noon or two. When you auditioned
in front of the whole team without knowing any material,
you're just like have fun like sight read this and
then here's here's the side and just cold read. I
was like, are you kidding me? And then they were like,
you're not the right type of funny, and I said,

(30:15):
that's the right type of funny. I am comedy. It's
like you've become Fanny Bryce. Yeah, I'll show you, like,
why would you?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Why would you see that's a devastating thing. Maybe told
her that you're not the right kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I know, is that sad? Do you? That was the
Book of Mormon who we missed If they did miss
of course it was too.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Andrew was incredible. All of them were incredible. Too fucking high.
I am a high baritone.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Okay, I'm not going to pussy pop these notes and
have a mental breakdown. Yehows a week on.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Stage to be like, I believe I'm not gonna it's
too I'm like, also, can we lower the keys for men.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's an I don't think so that. I'm gonna get
to you later. Yeah, yeah, the jig is up. We
all do not have to be screaming, fucking like mixy
Bitchesen just said. Bowen is a countertemer. No.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
First of all, you said something so press on the
other day, which is being born with an a mab
voice as a curse.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
It's true, it's true. It's true. Culture didn't not make
that a rule. Being born with a voice is a curse.
We're off to the races on rules today. Absolutely, rules
are coming in hot. Can I say something though?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Someone commented, and I just I I made a mistake
of reading the comments on the sketch I did with
Gaga where we sang Wonderful Tonight and someone was like,
Bone's only a Bone's only a scream singer. And I'm like, oh,
I just can I just pull back the curtain and
say that I am proud of myself for just being
present with one of our great rehearsals, Lady Gaga. She

(31:53):
wanted to run that song a bajillion times, and we
delayed rehearsals for it because I was like, no, we're
getting this right. Because she looks at me to go,
I think it'll be funnier if we're really good at it,
And I said.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Absolutely, I always think that about musical comedy.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
If it's absolutely so much funnier, I agree.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
And then we were just we had to find that
we like auditioned like seven different keys, and I somehow
kept my shit together next to Stephanie Germanada, and I
was like, I'm with you wherever you want to go
and whatever. I'm not like, I'm only bringing this up
because the keys are hard, and any any a mab

(32:29):
voice that has to adapt to a key is doing
a lot of a lot of emotional labor just for
for themselves in the audience.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
And I'm just saying that Gaga was fucking incredible. All
that was not. That was not screamsing easy, and it
was not screamsaying it.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I actually was impressed by how effortless it felt like
you were kind of just like tossing it up there,
and I was just like, really proud of you.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
But the last time I felt that way that I
was like tossing up was at Chremanica Ball.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well, you want to know why, because when you're on
mushrooms for the best thing the world. It's actually location
number sixteen when you're in the mushrooms to the best
singer in the world.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, what so you'r would you say counter baritone? No,
I'm a high bar high baritone. Sorry, sorry, I mean
I can like with a fierce mix. That why my
mix is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
But yeah. But like everybody's like screaming now and they're like,
can you full voice that, I'm like, how about you
full voice? Your Yeah? Yeah, you shut up.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I wrote a lot of my Christmas music when I
was twenty seven, and.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Hell, you can fucking.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Tell me because like Lube for the sleigh, my song
the bridge is a belted like ooh vowel on live,
it's just.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Like it's trasy totally.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
And you know what's funny is it's like I didn't
realize I didn't know how to sing my own music
until I started with a voice coach, and.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
It broke it all open for me.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Now I like love going there like warming up your voice,
Like good, do you stay on top of your vocal health?

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I do? I mean yes? And no, I mean I
feel like after doing eighths a week is is insane
and you're just like men and physically drained. So you're like,
I need like a month or two off, like between
gigs or like whatever. But yeah, I mean there's definitely
those moments where you have to be on it, like
I'll always check. It's like a sick and sick and
twisted like space that you wake up and you're like

(34:14):
hm hm hmmm. Yeah. You wake up every day and
you're like I have to check. Even it's like three
months the show's done and you're like, oh, I'm still
checking to see if my voice is there. It's just
a met It's crazy if we call it musical theater
mental illness, but it's wonderful. It's not mentally. It's not
mental illness. It's no, it's you got to stay on
it for sure. You're keeping your chops up. Yeah, I

(34:35):
mean you don't know when you know Broadway is gonna
call and say, hey, you're you're on. It's time to
shred bitch. I just shread bitch. I mean this literally
just happened after pandemic. Do you remember like the height
of Broadway coming back and everything was canceled. Everybody was
getting COVID for the eighth time, right, trying to get
these shows back open and blah blah blah. I hadn't
done Wicked for seven years. And I got a phone call.

(34:59):
It's Christmas Eve, like two days before Christmas Eve, and
I'm back in Jersey at my mom's and I'm at
the gym because you know, got to get the work
out and before the Christmas spirit. So I go to
the gym up the street and I get a phone
call from my stage manager from Wicked, who I hadn't
spoken to in forever, Mary beth Abel, who I love,
and she was like a she calls me Stan Constantine.

(35:22):
If you guys didn't catch that, So then she literally
calls me. She goes, mmm, Stan, I go mb. She goes,
what are you doing? I was like, what are you doing?
She's like, well, what are you doing? I was like,
I'm at the gym. She's like, so, do you want
to come back into the show tomorrow night? And I
was like to tomorrow night? I was like what, No,

(35:44):
not even to be Viera because I first started as
the understudy. And she goes, in your original track from No.
Twelve years twelve twelve, it had been like twelve years,
but I hadn't been back in the show for like
seven got it and I was like, ma'am, you want
me to put that skirt track on and you want
me to, like, I don't know, lift a bitch stage
right four in the dark and be a Coggona wheel

(36:06):
And she was like yeah, yeah, basically she's like you
remember it right. I was like, are you kidding me?
She goes, You'll be fine. I marched my ass to
that theater, got back into my old costumes because the
best thing about Wicked is these motherfuckers have your costumes
in crazy ziploc bags in a warehouse and they just
call and assistant and they're like, get Knnie Rousilli's costume
from circa twenty ten, blah blah blah, shoes and all

(36:29):
literally in a beautiful package, Oh my gosh, blaid out
on this dressing room table. And you're like, wait, this
is loll am I going to fit into this because
I was a twink back then, you did you know what?
I have a fat ass and a bad attitude and
I went right into it. Wow, great attitude, great attitude. No,
it was great, but it was crazy. I was like,
this is psychotic speaking of you know, just getting random

(36:51):
phone calls and having to be ready.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Well, oh my god, you're describing two impossible situations, one
involving site reading, which is that and that.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Was crazy true. I don't read music, so I just like,
I know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Even understand what they like. My thing is like okay,
so and probably this is a little bit the deal.
But it's like do you want it to be good
or do you want it to be not good? And
maybe sometimes they want it to be not good so
they can just like like invalidate people. But like that's
so often you speak a little bit. What the fuck
is auditioning for musical theater? I did it twice.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
And it is little. It's hell.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
They give you like eighty seven fucking packets of material
and like haha, learn this in one day, and you're like,
wait a second, I have to now back in the
day when we started, I had to hire a pianist.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Get yeah, put it down on a stupid like voice,
which is money by the CEO. Yeah yeah, money and
time and like you know, going to just higher penis
is like at least one hundred dollars and I'm like, cool,
can you just play this for me? And like plunk
this out? So I can learn it within four hours.
I mean, it's crazy. They give you the stuff and
then they want you to be as off book as possible,

(37:59):
so it's like you're going in and failing so challenging.
So that's such a setup, and then it's like you're like, wow,
I'm really good for this part. I remember being like,
oh wow, this is really something that I'm dying to do,
and I'm really good for it. And it's just written
musically a little bit too high because the person who
did it in the fucking workshop or the reading, you know,
has a higher voice than you. And there's this thing

(38:20):
in musical theater that the higher you sing, the better
vocalist you are. And we have to stop that narrabi. Yeah,
and it makes me crazy because like, well, all these
little like now mixy girls who are like screaming tits,
They're like, oh, she's the best voice in the world.
I'm like, she sounds generic as hell. You sound basic,
sound like mixed a lot, Mighty Mouse. I don't want
to hear that mix, Like where's give me a Bernadette Peters,

(38:43):
give me? Like give me a.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Give me a give me like Carol Channing.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I don't know give me a fucking actor again, Like,
give me somebody who can act the fuck out of
something and then be able to sing and then put
it in their key. So that's why when I wrote Titanic,
I said, I never want anybody in this business. I'm
looking at you, Okay, to come in for me. If
I ever read another musical again, I want you to
do it. I want I want them to feel as

(39:11):
comfortable as possible, because I never want that feeling of
like I am so right for this, but I just
can't standing what key do you want it in? I'd
be like, hey, you're incredible. I want you so what
is going to be? What is going to be so
comfortable for you? Ehows a week? I want you to
be able to sing that. I could cry literally, I
was like and people would be like, I've never been
in a room like this before, and I was like,

(39:31):
I know, I've been there, and I've had like full
on crazy panic attacks after being like, you know, I
fucked myself and I'll never get seen for this casting
director again. And they saw the worst of me because
I was too high and I cracked, and like then
you just go through a spiral and then you hate
your instrument, and you're like, no, no, no, you should love
your instrument. This is what you were like blessed with.

(39:52):
So like, I don't know, I want to show you
the actual true self of my of you know, my
voice and my talent. So like having a fuck key
and changing it is not a big deal, I don't think.
So that's like reight off applause. I mean that was
really important.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I remember, like like Henry is so in like these
these musical directors are they can do it.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
They can, but it's their ego too, like no, it's
gonna sound better like that, and they just then they
fight you, and I'm like, hey, actually the naked ear,
sorry babe, No one's going to know the difference. You know,
if you lower this half a step, no one's going
to know because in your voice, in your voice, whatever
key is going to be your climactic belt or like

(40:37):
the climax of the song is going to sound unbelievable
because it's in your line, in context of concept of
the song, and it's in context of your of your
talent and of your gift. It's like, hello, no one
knows if I'm hitting a fucking A or a D.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Unless they're like those those people with like perfect pitch
that are like that want to tell you about.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I don't need to know, Yeah, I don't. Can I
say something, Yeah, I don't need to know. I don't
need to know that you have perfect pitch. It's actually
the culture number seventeen. I don't need to know the pitch.
That's great and that's on period and that's on period
and culture. We should ask the question.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, constantin Brazil, what is the culture that made you say?
Culture is for me the formative culture that made you
movement of the formative culture. Okay, Gay, many answers, there's there's,
there's many.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah. I just will always remember, I mean clearly trl. Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I saw Carson Dilly this morning and I was so gagged,
Like he just walks around today's show like that's what
he's doing now, and I'm like, that's Carson.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I know. That was like for me. I remember coming
up rushing home, getting off the bus, yeah, throwing my
backpack on the counter and being like here's the sandwich, ma,
and then grabbing like a diet coke and sitting my
fat ass on the couch with a bag of chips.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Oh. I was a fat hit growing up. Oh really yeah,
she was a husky mama. Yes, we shopped at the
husky section, drink.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
A diet coke chips and like number one again and
I'd be like learning choreo, putting in the vhs to
be like, oh my god, my god, the video is
gonna play, and then my sister sort of come in
and then she would annoy me and I'm like, shut
up the videos playing. It's Britney. I mean, yeah, the
same person that's sick like he's number one Britney fan.

(42:27):
Of course, like I'm not going to take that. You
can't even you can't. I mean it's she'll literally blow
me up and throw poop at my face. Oh my god. Okay,
So on the Carousel t r L Rock t r
L was like that, let me have it, truly, let

(42:51):
me have it, and it like shaped everything. I mean,
I wanted, you know, highlights, and I went to the
local cvs and like had this whole hair dying fiasco
in mythroom.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Who was the who was the person that inspired that
the most? Was there like a because there was JT
doing his like frosted girls.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I think it was. I think it was. It was
Nick Backstreet Boys, Nick Carter, Wow, that was the first
concert I ever saw. It was Backstreet Boys. Great one,
but they let me have it. Yeah, they sing. They
were fantastic. They sing down and choo and choreo.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
We'd have to explain something to because I guess there
are younger listeners who don't understand the impact of Backstreet Boys.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Oh, the boy bands, like it was. It was a
girl band. It was girl girl bands. Boy bands. Yeah,
you guys have no idea what it did to us.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
First email I ever sent from a computer in the
business center of like some strangers apartment building that we
went to for like a family dinner in Canada was
to the official Backstreet Boys fan site account, like Hi,
I want to say hi to Nick Carter.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I love you. This is Bowen and my first email
you sent a little gay little game Nick. He really
was the He was the one.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
And then as you get old Kevin, Kevin Kelevin, you
can get it.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Howie I met back stage at SNL fifty, the.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Sweetest guy I wanted to funk bad aj Oh he's
bad boy a J could get.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
He had little beanie and his goatee and his tattoos.
Also the also that the vocals on AJ. Yeah, he
was the he was kind of the sound of that group.
It was not Nick. It was Mick would float in
with his little nasally tenor what it's like justin Timmerlake. Yeah,
the same thing has the boys. J C taught me

(44:38):
everything I know. Same.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Kevin was mysterious. Oh no, I'm sorry, I need to
correct it. It was not Howie that my backstage. It was
a Jane.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
A j was so sweet. Yeah, a j is a doll.
Age is a doll. But Kevin. I think Kevin is hot.
Kevin Kevin's gorge like stunning, stunning like hasn't changed at all. Yeah,
h boy is TRL was and Ricky Martin al let
me have it? Who Yeah? Did he do something to
his face because she looks unbelievable. He's always been beautiful. No,

(45:08):
I mean he's a vibe. He was my vibe live
in La Vita, fucking Loca fucking punched me in the clowns. Yeah,
so hard back in the day, and I could only
go to Coconuts and or Sam Goody if you remember
that where we had to I don't know, go to
a place to receive music. Everybody you know jen a

(45:28):
who there, you just get it on your phone. I
had to wait, and I would be pissed. I would
go to every like CD store to like try and
get this album when Ricky Martin came out and.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
It could be sold out. This is like US was
streaming now where it's like, oh, I can pre save it.
There's like leaks early, It's like no whiz. Truly, I
remember like needing desperately to get there on the day Oops,
I did it again came out of the album because
I was like, it might not be there for a week.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
It's gonna be gone in their line, wait in line.
You had to drive to Borders and yeah, the CD
wouldn't be there. You could go to another Sam Goodie
you fucking yeah. It was coconuts coke. What's is that
a Jersey thing?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I think that's a Jersey thing or maybe it's tritate.
I don't remember, but I'm a store. I love it
was crazy, but yeah, I would be pissed. And the
only thing that I my scroungy little hands got up
got on was Ricky Martin's living ly Via look on cassette.
So I had to then wait, Okay, then you guys,
we got to wait. Cassette ended you to rewind, rewind,

(46:32):
having to flip it and reverse it. Wait, and then
the other side was like the Spanish side. So I
was like, okay, nowish, do you.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Think I'm not off? Book on No Miamis by Jennifer
Lopez and Mark Antony, I have news for you.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
I'm kind of not, but I was at one point, guys,
now that's comedy. That's called it's you know, it's everything.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
My favorite Rickey Martin song. It's a ballad, which one
Jesus that one you guys vocals.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
It is twelve fifty five and we are singing down.
I'm not singing the y'all are, but you could be.
I could be. Yeah, I got I gotta luba up.
But wait, she's all I ever had. That was everything.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Titanique Dukebox Musical for Ricky. Would you do a duke
Box musical again?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Or yeah? No, write write your own Yeah, I mean
I'm not gonna write my own music. That's We'll do
the book, that's what. Yeah, we'll do the book for sure.
I mean, yeah, MGM Fox, everybody come to us. We
have guru. I mean, just hire us. But kinds of question.
How can Titanique be on the West End but not Broadway?
Good question, Yeah, but I'll get it. Tell us I

(47:39):
don't know. I think here's the thing, you know, you
there's different models. Sure, I would say there's different models
for every show.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
You know. We were this random jukebox musical that came
out right after pandemic.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
So I think our producers, you know, trying to keep
it small in the sense of like, let's build the
brand and not go too hard, you know, and then
it started like really picking up speed and momentum, and
I think we had an opportunity in the height of it,
like when we when Marlon and I were gonna leave,
it was like June of twenty twenty three. I mean

(48:13):
it was like I looked at in the audience and
it was like you guys again, and like that's it,
you guys again again, and it was like, you know, Marco,
Robbie and Matt Boehmer, who is the hottest person I've
ever seen that Matt Connie from Titanic. We never met
backstage because you left and I was pissed. But you
made me so nervous and nobody ever does. So I

(48:36):
love you he's pretty beautiful, yah, gorge. And then it
was like you know, Lauren, and then Lauren was there,
I ru Paul and just like all these people, and
You're like looking on the audience, You're like, what the
fuck is happening? Yeah, like this was we never expected
any of that to happen. So you're sitting there and
you're just like, Okay, maybe this is going to transfer

(48:56):
and this is going to go to Broadway and I
just you know, I don't know what happened. You know,
there's never a it could possibly happen again. I think
we were we were fighting the parody of it all,
you know, and especially in the business, are like, oh, snooty,
this is Broadway. We don't do parodies. And I'm like,
I know, it's but it's a new comedy and clearly

(49:18):
the world loves it and we just want an Olivier
which is like the Tony's of London. Yeah, and for
you know, it's bringing theater back, and I'm like, can't
we just like have fun again and just laugh and
we don't have to always learn lessons when we go
to the theater and it doesn't have to be this
like highbrow crazy story about mental illness and pills and exactly.

(49:45):
So it's I mean, Alice, Lauren, Hello, it's really pertinent.
So I just think there's there's room for everything. There's
room for everything on Broadway, and I and I wish
sometimes tis the big wigs of Broadway didn't like, look
down to a comedy that is just like, oh, this
is a dumb comedy. Meanwhile, comedy is harder than dramas

(50:08):
you guys, O. Mary is like, I mean look at
I mean example, Cole. I am so beyond and inspired
by them. That was one of the craziest things and
most incredible things I've ever seen. The cast everything, so
it's like, yes, cool, fun, crazy, weird, new work is allowed,

(50:31):
We're allowed to play and clearly it's working. The people
want it, so yeah, I don't know. Hopefully, maybe we
will one day get there.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
But I think right now is just we we kept
it as an off Broadway show, and I think it
just sat there and I think we were building the
brand and it just was like our little baby that
just is waiting, you.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I feel like it's like there's something about it that
felt like you got it, especially when it is a
cool underground.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yeah, it was a cool underground thing. Yeah, if you
saw it, it will always be a unicorn. Yeah, it's
a magical unicorn, like the like whatever. Like this is
the what Katherine O'Hara says in about movies. It's like
a great movie is great forever, Like a great show
like that is literally great forever, and you are it
is literally around the world.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
You should be.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
So that's so beautiful, like to have an extension of you,
like I always this is the stupidest, dumbest comparison that
I'm gonna make.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
And I'm looking in the camera. I know how dumb
I am. Okay, I know. I don't need you to
tell me.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I think that this podcast is popular because I had
people telling me how dumb I am.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I know that I am for years. Person.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I know what I'm gonna say is it's like when
you book a pre show at a theme park and
you live forever hundreds of times a day and you
don't even know it. Ye, Like Titanique is every night
around the world, sometimes twice a day, is making people happy.
You are like writing and performing all the time without
even doing that, And that is such a beautiful thing

(51:55):
about our and.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Theme barks, thank you. Honestly, that is the best woman ever.
I am so like I was watching I went to
the Universal when we were there.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I was there the day before with my sister, and
they have the Bourne Stunt Tacular, which is yes, a
Jason Bourne stunt show, and Julius Stiles does the pre
show serving Jacket and Julius Stiles serves this pre show
so hard, and I'm like, she has to know, Julia,
you have to know you're giving.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Into the Girls of Times for twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
You're up there giving the Jacket of a lifetime. My
favorite part of it. And then we don't talk about
this anymore. Is she's dead in the movie series like spoiler,
Like Julia Styles fully she gets blown up and she
gets blown up and like literally lays in the street
like this. And then in the pre show she goes
Jason believes I'm dead and they show her death like

(52:48):
and I'm like, cause you are. She's alive though, I
guess now, so if you were a huge fan of
the Julia Styles character in the Bourne movies, She's alive.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Alive. Also, bring back Save the Last Stamp? Can I
tell you something? Yes, I think that might be our
next musical. Why not? Okay, we are coming over with
that idea right now. I'm coming with that idea right
now because you know what they're literally doing ten things
I hate about you. Yeah, I know, you know what
else is gonna be good? And I'm gonna throw it
out there center stage. Oh full parody of center stage.

(53:21):
Really that's me. That's a niche market. Everybody, go watch it.
Go watch it. Niche is over. It doesn't matter. It's everything.
That's everything. Yeah, it's everything. It's it was that shaped
me back in the day to talk about culture. Okay,
so let's go. Let's go back to this t r
L center stage.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
It's always tell Donya's that like sort of like entrance
into the main the mainstream.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
We like where we did. We put it on on
Fire Island one year. We just like had it play
in the backgroum where we were like making it and
like Donna Murphy like co. I was just talking about
this with Christopher Wielden, who is a very good friend,
who's you know, our girl from MJ you know, ballet
down such as the Stars, and we were chatting about
it and he was just like, yeah, he worked on
that movie told me all the tea we'll talk about after.

(54:03):
Honestly unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I believes the beginning of her career was literally center
Stage and then cross.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Roads when she was she pregnant in it? In Crossroad?
Was she was she the pregnant won or was that
Taron Mannings think about that trio Kim ConTroll and Kim
was the mom. I mean that is crazy. And then
Coyote Ugly. This is like the year of movies.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Coyote Ugly is something I watch whenever it's on and
also is one of the hottest sex scenes ever if
you watched the extended version.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Okay, wait, do you remember that my favorite scene? What?
What's your favorite scene from Coyote Ugly? I'm about to
blow your damn mind? Is it? I don't know what
is it? It's mine? Is the sex scene? No, I'm
asking you what your mine is the scene? It's like.
His name is Adam Garcia. He was also a fierro.
He was in London. Yes, this very he is the hottest.

(55:03):
Look him up, I ever he was beautiful hair.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
He was a beautiful beautiful like dark like black hair. Honestly,
kind of looks like Matt Bohmer.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yes, but like a little bit more like you. No,
he had curly like those did you have like the
curly locks? I almost used the word supple supple. Yeah,
this one everything the camera, show the camera like, get
into it, hold on, hold on, got okay. Yeah, And
there was a whole scene where he did the strip tease.
This is the best thing body. Yes, yes, what's what's
the favorite? Do you remember when? Do you have ever

(55:31):
seen it? Okay? Track off? Yeah, go home now sorry, Tyra,
Do you remember when she when she goes and brings
her cassette tape to like the label, Yes, I do,
and it's the and it's that fierce black woman who's
sitting there and she's like on her phone and then
she gives it and she goes, hey, I'm sorry, I
can I leave this for you? And she was like, honey,

(55:54):
let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
My daughter tells me that she's a beast sexual and
that she hates me more than anybody else in the
home of the fucking world. Now let me tell you
how can I make your dreams come true? Because I
am dying to know Monologue for the Stars.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Oh my god, that's part of the whole movie TikTok
let me have it. I need to find her daughter
unbelievable tells me she hates me more than anyone else
in the world. Yeah, now let me tell you. Now,
tell me how I can make your dreams. I'm dying
to know. Where is the for that? Isn't that?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
It was the best monologue I have ever seen in
a movie. That's like one of those like doubt style
like actors pops.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
In she.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Needed Aron. It was my I mean I still remember it.
That was like twenty five years ago. Something is just.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Something wrong with me from that era though, from this
era that we're specifically talking about, like our brains being
like truly spongy in a way where it's like now
I can put on movies from that time or movies
that I was watching at that time, like Grease.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Off book, off book, off book, Yeah, off book on, Clueless,
off book on, like Bringing On. You can quote anything
from Bringing On truly anything we met but Red before
Still we did meet a Big Red.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
We literally Big Red who's also the tea. Yes she was, Lindsay.
She came up and she we're at coach Helly were leaving.
I think Charlie X and she came up, and this
woman comes up and she's so kind, and she goes,
oh my god, I just want to say, I listened
to your podcast with my daughter. She's right over here,
and the daughter is so cute in waves and they

(57:33):
we're like.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Oh my god, thank you so much. And then she goes,
she goes, I played big Red and then we bring
it on and we both she looks the girl we know.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
In fact, I think it was a little dark or whatever.
But I'm so happy, she said, because the second she did,
I literally.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Like, You're like torch, and now I pass the torch.
The ballots are in and one girl has to win.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
She's she's fun and now she's one to toss the
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
We've done it on this podcast before, and these very
we are gay as hell.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
She was so nice and then I had this like
lovely dam exchange of her after where I really because
I didn't realize in the moment that she was also
on Sabrina, which I watched.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I wore that show out. My first Harvey friend. You
kind of you Harvey? Okay, your where is Harvey? Where
is Harvey? Handsome boy? There? Harve Well you know what
happened to Generali Green h Also, she was I think
she understudied alphabat when we were friends in l A

(58:46):
talent like But do you remember when she was in
what was that? Oh my god, I'm having a blank
off Broadway show with John Hill and Michael Arden and
Atalie Joy Johnson and oh my god, this is a
great grip. It was today. I would bout like the
two gay boys in Catholic High School and they fall

(59:07):
in love. Oh my god, what is it called? I
don't remember it either, boys and Catholic High School? And
I like that as a title, Wicked Wicked. I like
it as the title is remember anyway. But Jenna wasn't
that she was She was leading that vocals down sometimes
watch I'm sure I'm with the right people to share Alpha.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Just a compilation of Wicked Witch of the East, which
I think is the is the best, gives you a
big full belt run for her money.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Jenna's incredible. I love it. It's the best. Why is
it it on the album? That's why I don't think so, Honey,
Sla tutorial is of uh which the East? That is
that ignored territory? That what is slime? Tutorial. That's territory.
Oh yeah, does that count as slame tutorial? Yeah? What's
slime tutorial? It's like it's just like a it's like bootlegs.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, cuts of things, but it's like Chris, it's like
Christmas haunting you. Oh shirt, I might be I might
be misusing the term.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I like it. I could use it speaking of slime.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
This was Nickelodeon culture. This is also around that time
the TRL Nickelodeon. This was nineteen ninety nine, two thousand.
This was the millennium.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah, this was the time. What was Sabrina? Sabrina was on?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Or No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Was it ABC?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Was it part of t G I F it was? Yeah,
t g IF went so hard. I know, I couldn't
wait because what were we going to do on a Friday.
Let's go to our friend's house.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
And now not me. No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I would get on the bus on Friday and my mom,
who would just walk me to the bus. I would
I would look out the window because I was this
is a weird thing. I was really afraid of the bus.
I used to get I have anxiety attacks about getting
on the bus and not having anyone to sit with.
So I would get on the bus through middle school
and high school, not not through high school through elementary school.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
In middle school, this was the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
So I'd get on the bus and look out the
window like terrified, like me like dying, shaking, and my
mom would go to remind me that it was coming
on later. It would make it would make me feel
so much better because I knew that if I just
could get through school, I could watch t G I
F Meets.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
World, Boy meets World. Topanga hair those tits? Can you
imagine a woman named Topanga? Literally like get out of here?
I love that. I love to Pango? Like, who thought
that was a good idea? Obviously someone genius? To a
canyon the lived Do you think she was named after

(01:01:37):
the canyon in which she was? Where else are they
pulling that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Where?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Because it was a slut from the pang from the
canyon to Panga that was there were the first power
company were? And then Dawson's Creek came after, Oh my god,
all of it, and then Buffy and Charmed. Would you
a Buffy gay? Oh my god? Was I a Buffy?
So when Sarah Michelle Geller came to see the show,

(01:02:01):
were you dead? Oh my god, I'm so I was
so dead. I mean, and Sarah came like three times.
Oh really it was so nice? Yeah, Sarah realma Reese.
Did Brian come? Yes? Ryan came out. He was the best,
of course, he were so the most. She was really nice,
lovely person. He came up to me after and he's like,
way to keep the val Mountain name alive? Man, And
I was like, I'm going to make out with you now.
I'm literally obsessed. Oh my god's so wonderful. Sarah is

(01:02:24):
so wonderful. Only were the best things about Sarah Michelle
same Michell Geller is it also looks exactly the same.
She's having like she's having renaissance. Yeah, she's the best.
I love her so much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
You know what I would like to see I would
like to I know they're doing a new season of Buffy.
I would like to see SMG in the new season
of White Lotus. I feel like Sarah Michelle Geller she
will let you have It would tear up some because
people forget how dramatically good she is. Ye Oh, I
feel like people don't remember that she was giving you versatility.
I'm sorry, cruel intentions.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
She was like what twenty one iconic, the best performance
I have still to this day, one of the best
performances I've ever seen on film, all three of them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
When they signed her Coke Vial at the end and
just a single tear comes down her face because she
knows her up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
She there's a new season about you, or new it's
think it's I think it's just I think they're rebooting
it as a show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Right, I thought, I know what you did last summer,
same same thing. I still know what you're doing. Remember
the thrillers, like when we were in the Scary Movies
and screamed, yes Kate and Robertson is j Robinson? Did
I still know? She did? Someone great? Et cetera. Those
were guys. We lived in great times. Did you know
Apster God? Remember Lime? Do you remember that Rhapsody? Of

(01:03:44):
course I had all of them. They would all go
I would. I would completely fuck up my mother's computer
every five minutes, take its to Toshiba, and she'd be like,
you crashed the computer again, con But I was like, sorry, girl,
I had to download that song that took forty eight hours. Wow.
Are you deeply connected to your Greek roots? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I am the greekest person ever. Yeah, because I don't
have like Greek culture in my life, but.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I feel like you do. Here you go, I'm right
in front of you. She is. I am the epitome
of my big fact Greek wedding. Yeah, there are there
are good I am Joey Fitzton. No, I'm near Virdallos.
There are columns in front of my house, so this day,
Greek columns. There was plastic on the furniture of my
entire fucking life in that room that nobody can go

(01:04:29):
inst on the remote. No, No, that's crazy, but that's
an Asian thing. Maybe there is more germs on the platform. No,
we would we still to this day there's a baby
lamb for Easter that's on a spit roasted outside of
my fucking house in the backyard beautiful, And people are like,
what is that smell? And I'm like, it's just allowed.

(01:04:53):
My mom's just like making stew from like the insides
of the lamb. And I'm like, girl, are you okay?
Like what is happening? We are the creak. I mean,
it's sick. My sister lives behind my parents house. That's
because you amazing. And also what name ran oh that's right, yeah, okay,
And also I cut you off what oh no? Also

(01:05:14):
just that where I'm so Greek, like I went to
Greek school. Every do Greek Orthodox, Greek Orthodox to holler,
so I only it was the first eight years of
my life. I've told you this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
We were Greek Orthodox and we moved to a different
town and we switched to Roman Catholicism because my dad
goes it's basically the same, and it was the Greek.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
It's all in Greek and it's three hours long. You
want to go to church for three hours every summer
and I don't think so hard. That was cray crazy.
I would have to sit there and be like yeah,
dozing off, and my mom's like pay attention. I'm like
to what I can't even.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Understand because it was all in Greek. I didn't understand it.
And then they were like basically the same. We became
Roman Catholic and then I could hear what they were saying,
and I'm like, oh fuck, this this sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Well because also like there's something to full about, like
going to a Greek church. It's like stunning, like Byzantine
art like things and art I love next to us.
I mean it's donningfully, that's the church next to me. Oh,
that's that's a Greek Orthodoxy ur huh. Yeah. And then
my parents, speaking of when you transferred to Catholicism, my
parents when we were going to high school, we had

(01:06:19):
no high school in our town. You would have to
like go private or go somewhere else. And so they
were like, we're gonna put you in Catholic school. And
I was like wait what I was like, but I'm
not Catholic, Like same thing, same thing. So then me
like having to go to Mass every whatever Friday, and
then I was like okay, and then I got bamboozled
into singing in the choir. So then everybody called me

(01:06:41):
the gay singing kid, and they're like, hey, gay singing kid,
great job on our God is an awesome god. And
I'm like, cool, don't even know that song. And I'm
sitting here like singing like McDonald's fucking songs. That's what
it felt like, because I was like, I remember in
the Greek church, which it was like all like Byzantine,
ancient Greeks, the best one ever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Hosanna in the highest of course, hosaninan high actually kind
of country blessed is he who comes from the name
of the Lord.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
No, it's actually they need to put it in a
pop song. I think Lord should do with a mashup
with Charlie. Actually should be on their album. Yes. Absolutely.
Did you ever remember Sweet Redeemer? That song was a banger,
give it to Us. I don't go Sweet Redeemer, ah surrender,
Oh I Am to you?

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
It was wowwas wild. And then I used to get
in trouble by the priest because my like mentor in
high school, two guys Frank and Ed who I fucking
love still to the say, they would always like make
me just like go off like American idol style, and
I was like okay, and then the priest would be
like listen, son, this isn't American idol. Stop singing like that,

(01:07:53):
this is church. And I was like okay. I was like,
I'm an extended belt. Oh i U. I used to hole.
I would hold things out. People would be like, okay,
singing kid, that was so fierce today, and I'm like,
thanks man, that was so and I was like, well,
I'm actually not gay and they're like, ah, sure, and
but yeah, I would just like go off at mass
because I was like, I'm not coughlic what is this

(01:08:15):
fun crazy music? We're all just goofing off, groving off. Yeah, church, But.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Don't you love that you have the sort of pop
star narrative of you got to start singing in the
church in church choir.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
I sure did. I mean in the church choir in
Greek church too, So like that was like, you know,
hymns and ship.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
So that was one of the speaking of all these
movies that I remember every line remember says track too,
where there's that iconic scene where Lauren Hill and her
friend are singing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
See because.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
And so then at the end they're singing and the
one girl goes to Laurent Hill goes to the one girl, girl,
you could really make.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
It, and she goes, mm hmm, this is for church.
When she was like she was like, uh or you
clearly know that she has a better voice in Lauren Hill. Sorry,
she literally and then she was like girl, She's like
I just can't I can't get that you have it.
I can't get that low No. And she's like no, no, no, no, no,
this is this is for Yeah, you could really make it,

(01:09:14):
could really make it. That movie is readA Marie Watkins.
Get your behind upstairs, get and your head in the clouds?
Aren't they making the third one? What's the okay?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
So we need to sit whooll be down in that chair?
Actually we need to get here first of all, why
hasn't that happened? You guys need to get that immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Then we can By the way, whoop, we tore up
the magdala. Yeah. Can we talk about the fashions, yes,
because you know it's current highlights highlights. Who let me
have it? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Tana Taylor, Tana Taylor, everything always period, always bad bunny
looking like looking like the scarecrow for the Whiz and
I was so here for it. Absolutely with a Michael
Jackson glove, I was like, bitch, go off. What did
you feel about Zendaya and being in the same look?

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Was it the same exact I don't know. I thought
it was different takes on this. I'm okay, yeah, but
by side.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I will she can wear anything. I mean today is
the motion stunning human in the world. But it reminded
me of like you know, old Selene was backwards suit,
which was iconic. But I'm like, okay, we've seen it.
Let's maybe do something else for sure. Announcing baby number

(01:10:42):
three Marina, baby number three, pregnant zero fox, I said
n or like R three on the third d. Also,
is that album actually gonna happen? I don't think so.
I hate that, I hate that. I hate here, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
What the streets are saying is that she really he
just likes to smoke weed and watch housewives and do
the and do the fashion thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
That's what the streets I mean, we're here for that.
But also, I just need one more, Just give me
one more. Course, one more is pretty pretty cool. Here's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
I don't think it's that she doesn't want to. I
just think she feels she set a really high fucking
bar with Anti. I also think she genuinely enjoys these
other aspects of her life and if it's coming, it
is on her time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Which is as we know late. Yeah. Yeah, the way she.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Rolled up, she made everyone on that carpet wait forty
five minutes after the last person to make take her
fucking picture.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Unreal, good good, unreal. Do we like do Alipa's look? Yes?
I did like look.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
I liked Coleman obviously com wrong, it's amazing wrong. Also
shout out Hunter Schaeffer. Yeah, crush, I always section and
who else Lord looked amazing too? Looks is like really,
I think making like a like an announcement about their gender.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
I feel like it's saying they feel like a man
and a woman but not but not but not not
like dropping the pronouns just yet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Right. Yeah. I love the new song. It grew on me.
It's like the first time I heard it, I was like,
come on, and then like the second or third time
I heard it, I was like, what was I love it?
Miss it? I missed that crazy voice me too, crazy voice.
I saw Charlie again at Barclay's Amazing Yes and full
Range on stage. I was dead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
I think it's my third a month seeing her because
both times at Coach and then now this and I
saw sweat. When the girl so confusing Lord verse comes on,
it's like Hosanna in the highest it is it's sweet Redeemer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Wow, it's by the time she gets to say the
same half, by the time that part is going, you're
just like you're jumping. Yeah, you're a full car correct. Yes,
It's it's so good. And guess let me tell you
something about Guess. And I told you this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I guess people thought, and this is no disrespect to
rain on me by Ariana Grande and Lady Gaga. That
is a classic. People thought that that was like the
female duet of our time to rival. Enough is enough,
No More Tears, Donna Summer, Barbara Streisan. It's guests. Guests
is so powerful statement. There's room for everything. I'm just saying,

(01:13:29):
the feeling that you get during guests, there's nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Also, I don't know if I told you this. Maybe
I've told you this before on my you know, world
traveling Extravaganzas we went to the boiler room set. I
was there with Armana's with Armana boiler Rooms and we
were there. I lost my I was so high. It

(01:13:55):
was crazy. I mean, that was gorgeous, hot man from As.
I was like, cool, I'll never see you again. But also,
let's make it for you have to do that all
around the world. Oh Sam, just grab the man, come
over here. Yeah. It was wild, Wow, crazy, that's like
a historic It's a historic moment. People were like, I
still listened to that, and I'm like, I was there there.

(01:14:18):
I can't believe it. I still can't believe it. Thanks,
I mean that was all Gus. Gus made it happen. Yeah,
thank god to our girl, our baby girl, baby breade,
baby bread. No he's not married, but that's what it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Breaking news, breaking she's married, breaking gay news on a
gay podcast. Yes, ken Worthy a baby bride, more informats.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, you're slaying the transitions into the news. You know
what they did tell me on today, They were like,
you're so good at transitions. I was like, we're used
to doing to doing that. Well, that's because they don't.
They feel they don't need to, because you know, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I did slay. Are you doing prompt war? By the way,
I asked to do prompter wars? And I don't think
we're doing it because.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Tina just did it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
But I'm gonna ask again you need to do I
need I want to do the teleprompter is So, did
you like tong twisters on the teleprompter? And they go
really really fast. It's like it's it's like it's like
a battle with like Jenna and like whoever.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Well, my dislex I would really kick in hark what tho?
Who's to say that's on the board. So what do
cares have fun. Let them, let them b f g
W Big fact Greek wedding wedding movies.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
One of the great a comedy breakthrough moment for me
was Andrew Martin talking about her the lump on her neck. Yes,
that is one of the funniest things in movie history.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
There was a spider spin inside the lump. What's my twin? Yeah,
my twin, Like this is so forever, it's not it's

(01:16:04):
so good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
It's good every single time. I remember I went with
my Greek grandmother and your mom's side or dad'side. So
this is the controversy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Oh yeah, no one, no, no, no, no, but you
heard this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
So I live my entire life thinking like almost fifty
percent Greek, Like that's kind of what the vibe is
like my mother's side of the family, Like there's a
lot of Greek there. In fact, we had even seen
the movie and my my nana, who's now passed, she.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Was like, this is my culture.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
I'm so happy they made a movie about this and
it was just a huge success, like et cetera. So
then I think, like two years ago, I do the
twenty three in me spit in the tube, send it
in comes back zero point zero percent Greek, almost forty Turkish.
But it's giving me are it's giving right next door, given,

(01:16:50):
right next door, it's giving. Let's just call it a
culture clash.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Grandma grew up in Greece and my mother's maiden name
is Clarita's. Yeah, so it's like very bad diet there, right.
But Drew Barrymore hit show, I Love You, You Love Drew.
But you know that was so that was like I
was gonna, like, thank God that she passed before. I

(01:17:16):
don't think she would have loved the news. Wouldn't have
loved it. No, she is Greek. You are Greek though,
like that you you come from Greece, That that you,
I mean, it's you're there. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
But then so then I looked at a picture of
like a Turkish person like Google, like Turkish man, and
everything that came was like it was kind of like
I got it. I was like, yeah, I think I am.
You see it a little bit, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, it's so they're so close.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I mean it is like my father's village where he
grew up is like this tiny little place called cast
which is right next to you. Know Albania and Turkey
and everything, so it's like do you speak it? Yeah?
Oh well that was the best part, A great part
now knowing that you like, okay, cool, we're past like
Greek school and like totally ship that I had to

(01:18:04):
go through my whole life is that every Sunday, no, no, no,
every Tuesday and Thursday now for three hours after America
No talk about then having to study for American school,
do your homework, and then do Greek homework. I had
to tap it. You had to tape it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Well, we had to be depressed record on a VCR
for that anyway, No, manually I depressed it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Wow, DHS actually to this I was talking about. This
makes me realize I do know my I don't think
so honey. Great, okay, I think it's time. I think
it's time for I don't think so honey, And this
is going to be a throwback. It actually is applicable

(01:18:46):
to all times. By the way, I don't think so
honey is our sixty seconds second more we take a
minute to rants rail and more against something in culture
that deserves.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
It, and I have that thing. Okay, this is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so honey. And as time starts now,
I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
People who fast forward and cannot start it on time,
and like and when when it comes back from commercial,
You've had years now to understand the timing on this
and it happened back in the day and it's years
and years and years. Because I'm saying it's not just
the DVR, it's also rewind culture from from VCR culture.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
You know, you hit the button to resume a little before.
I hate going back, going forth, going back, going forth.
I hate it. You know when it's over, I guess
you wouldn't know because you have to guess.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
But like we develop your instincts, developed your internal clock
and then like just get it right. Like I hate
this about fast forwarding through things. I would rather watch
a commercial. Sorry, fuck you. I don't think so, honey.
This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. As
time starts now, I.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Don't think so, honey. What are the lotions the world
doing to help us in any city?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Like? Why why can't we have lotions that just work?
I'm putting hand cream on and I still have cracked palms.
I'm putting lipball, mom, I still have cracked lips.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
There's there's nothing there's My body is a sponge and
there's nothing in the world that can actually hydrate me
into its fullest potential. I think this is something that
is that is accelerating my age. I think this is
something that I thirty seconds, I can't stay on top
of it, and then it will eventually it will show
in my hands. I there are people out there, you know,

(01:20:34):
you know, the stars out there who are aging from
their hands first, and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
I think I think I will be one of those people.
Want to be one of those stars. You know what
I'm talking about. You know who I'm talking about. Don't
you know who I'm talking about? Not really aging from
their hands first? Marl five second? Sorry life, that's actually
a great company. B and I would if I get
any closer to being like Marlon Mindel, then you know what, Buffalo?

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
You never help me anyway? Am I the only person
who's like, what's the point? Let me see your gorgeous
soft Yet first, I don't look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Look at how beautiful is hands by. I have a
little baby hands like t X hands, the largest hands
hands and you you're your cheating my hands. I have
the biggest hands here. That means you got hees, he
goes have huge chance. What does that mean? Big show

(01:21:31):
and toes. That's what I said about the Greeks.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Show it now you know what I mean? Like, what's
the point I'm saying? What's I just I put on today?
I'm still dry?

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Yeah talking about look at that and no, you have
a gorgeous I just I can't. I don't know what
humidity means in terms of like how it affects my body.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
I I feel like I do think sometimes, like with
hand cream and stuff, it's like I wonder if it's
a little bit of like once you start using it,
you need it right, and that to me makes it
feel like a scam. Like sometimes I've been using skincare,
it's like sitty. People will compliment me on my skin
and I'll be like, oh, I haven't used anything in
weeks and months, and then I'll like break out or

(01:22:19):
I'll have skin because I've.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Been using like the best products. I don't do anything
but put my face under hot water and hot water.
I don't do anything but burn off off my face. No,
I have I've no in the shower, I literally have.
I mean I have a like a washer wash. Because
we're Creek. We have skin olive skin tones like a

(01:22:44):
mother like a motherfucker. But I can get pasty as
hell during the winter. Everyone's like you, okay the answer
is no, and I'm like, yes, I am. I have
like gang face, like October through December green. Yeah, that's
then like I get you know, go in that sun
and yeah, but then what because if you go in

(01:23:04):
the sun too much, that's when. Yeah, but that's when
we're gonna get the Lindsay Lohan. I know. I can't wait.
Who do we have to We have to find out
all this information, so if anybody has information to say,
who we have to fuck to get loan face? Jesus Christ,
I am going. I'm getting up there and I want
I want to be revealed.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
I don't think you, if you out there know who
we have to funk to get the Lindsay Lohan face
dial in one eight six six six three.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
I don't think you. I think you. I think you, like,
get into the get into the daddy identity. Okay, we're
gonna get you. You.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
I think out of anybody that I know, has had
the best twink to twink death to daddy hood.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Honestly, do you remember your twin death? Yeah, it was
like a little trauma. Yeah I do. People are posting
the twin death photos. The Twink death was. I want
to say, when was that? Like right, there's a there's
a picture of hairspran Broadway after like after we close
and then I did legally blond. Then something happened. I
moved to LA and the Twink death was was really

(01:24:07):
hard and I was like bye girl, but like it
was wild.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
The Twink death is the return to Saturn. Yeah, it's
your culture number seventeen. Yes, the Twink death isturday and
side because I remember mine was also when I moved
to La twenty seven, twenty eight. I got to LA
and was trying to like do that thing, that twinkie
thing of like I tuck my ring or T shirt
into my jeans and all of a sudden, it was like, oh,

(01:24:32):
that's not looking like it used to like and then
you're like, it's cuz.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
You're not a dwink anymore. Yeah, it's okay, it's okay.
We all have to like a fine wine, yeah, like
a fine wine wine wine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
All right, so listen, this is speaking of fine wine.
We're about to have a fine I don't think so
any from kind Oh my god, I'm nervous. Don't have
you ever done this?

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Have have you done a lot?

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Did?

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
We didn't know you back when we did live show. No,
this would have been one for the books.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Okay, live, Yeah, that was honestly, Maybe we should bring
it back like a special big thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Maybe that's our Radio City show. Oh yeah, you guys
one thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
We don't have a booked anymore, believe Okay, so you
want to know the tea We had Radio City Music
Hall booked for the Cultural Awards, but because we're doing
it on teacocks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
It's just like too like cooks in the kitchen. I
get it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
We're doing it in La at the Orpheum. But we
literally had a date for it would have been next month.
We were doing it at Radio City Music Hall, And
now I'm thinking, let's do I don't think so, honey,
of that radio It's fifty people that would and there's
not they can all fit on stage.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Oh my god, they can all fit on that stage
is huge. It's a humongous stage. And also it's Radio City.
It's the most iconic place in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Well, you know, Giggly Squad sold it out twice and
I'm like, okay, so it's possible for two girls that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Have a podcast to do that. That's true, and we're
almost that. Yeah, you guys are too fantastic girls.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Hey, thanks, Wait a minute, we have one fantastic girl
before us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
He's about to do it. Any girl stands before me.
I only have one phone in my hands. We have
ma from hermanas.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
We have Octavias Spencer in the best of all time,
Best of all time, Great Fire Island movie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Honestly, put it on. Put it on the summer. And
when are you going? I don't know. We have to
figure out in August should we all go together? So August?
Anybody want to give us? Do we have something for August?
We gave it up because we're going to Petown for
a carnival. Wait, we gave it up because it's the
same week as the town House. What about July? Maybe
I'll go to town I have to just let's just well,

(01:26:44):
well we need to. Yeah, we have to be there again.
We have to. It's a must. That would be so fun.
It'd be very fun.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
This I don't think so, honey, I can't wait for
that is constantine zulies. I don't think so many time starts. Now, okay,
you know what I don't think so honey? Being private
on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Yeah, okay, we're gonna talk about this right now, because
if I see you DM me and then I click
on your fucking picture and that tiny little fucking picture
and there's nothing to go to, and you have eight
hundred followers. What are you a Quaker? You can't you
can't just be out in public? Then why you on Instagram?
I need you to share your life, share everything, Sara.
I'm keeping it from my close friends and family. What

(01:27:23):
the two hundred people that you know, why don't you
fucking text them? I want to. I want to scan
your pictures. I want to creep on you. I want
to see exactly who you are. I wanna hear your voice.
I want to get the fucking tea because if we're
gonna bone, I want to see if you're man enough. Yes,
it wasn't mad enough for me. Also, best song I ever? Yeah, yeah,

(01:27:43):
I'm mix house. I know the best section in the
world fifteen seconds, but like, seriously, I and then I
click on another picture and then it's like this gorgeous
group of people and you fucking private and we're never
gonna meet because you're never gonna see my DM or
my or the message. So it's a lost cause. Okay,
so you can choke, get that ship off private and
fucking DM me. Thank you so much. And that's one minute.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
You're so right, Yeah right, I don't I don't know
how people expect something to get going when it's like
all I can do is like click your little and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
It doesn't even Also when it's private, another I don't think,
so it doesn't expand no, don't expand see the so
and I'm not giving you the follow right away. I
gotta see. I gotta see what I'm saying. I got
it to the creep of like I'm gonna like two
pictures and then you're gonna see it because you're gonna scan.
You're gonna make meb to pick me when you're the
exactly no way, no way.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
First of all, just be aware of the pigmies because
even if they seem cool, that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Yeah, they alway they think they're so cool. I'm like,
you're not cool because you're a private. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Well, here's the thing if you want whatever, If you
want to be private, fine you're being I don't think
so wady, but whatever. There's also this and a lot
of gays that I truly respect. These girls, they'll have
a private profile, but then pretty much all of their
stories will be close friends.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Right, so do that have like your.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Little whatever like it can be nothing, but then just
like engage with because you can also do grid close.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
We can do grig exactly, but I keep all the
grid posts close friends. If you don't want anyone to
see you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Literally private, is I mean in this context, then don't
then don't be on Instagram. Then don't be just don't
be flirting, don't be suggestive in the d ms with
a private.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Exactly, very dare this is not quite the same. That
is very This is all very justified. My original I
don't think the money before I blinked on it and
went to oceans because I saw a bottle of.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Lotion right there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
My god, that I'll give you the idea that would
give me the idea because I'm stroking. But my original,
I don't think your money was you're on a dating
appany of a LinkedIn de private that because I see
what you do when where you went to school because
it's it's good for me.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
I'm not going to judge you. What sucks about LinkedIn,
which I learned the hard way. People can see when
you go look no but you don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
You log off your linked open a private browser, go
their LinkedIn and if if it blocks you, if you
have to log it and you got I'm not going
that far. I'm not going to like have them see
that I viewed their profile, but I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Hate that, you know what I mean? Why can't I?
Why can't I? Just like I like to do a
little stalking. Yeah, I like to creep in like a
creepy Cuala as we like to.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Call online creepy Crawley. And I love that when you
get like fucking busted on by like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Oh okay, I'm sorry, Wow, I don't mind that. I
would love to busted on. I say that with Donn
bush Hagger tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
You know, when you get busted on, She's like, hey,
well I could bust all over this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
I love you guys, Day one, love you Day day five,
Day five, Day five, hate day six, six, maybe day seven?
So who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
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Sydney, And we're gonna we're going to Brazil in October.
Baby yeah, performer the COPA like I hope soon two
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(01:31:39):
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Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
I know there's like so much gay ship to talk about,
a gay ship to talk about. A Seleen song came
on on my way here and I can't believe it
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