Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast
Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com
Episodes
July 2, 2025 • 27 mins
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into various aspects of football strategy, focusing mostly on the defensive side of the ball.
They start by discussing the importance of choosing between the best available talent versus scheme fit during the draft, Jim Schwartz's
defensive philosophy group-by-group, the roles of defensive linemen,
linebackers and cornerbacks.
They wrap up ...
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In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into the intricacies of football strategy and the Browns. They discuss the struggles of the Browns' offensive line, the importance of identity and the nuances of pass protection.
The conversation also covers Kevin Stefanski's run scheme, personnel groupings and the impact of quarterback height on performance.
They even get into the effectiv...
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June 30, 2025 • 35 mins
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland recap the Browns' offseason program, focusing first on
quarterback evaluations, defensive line insights and more.
They analyze the performances of rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, the potential of the defensive line with the addition of Mason Graham and the concerns surrounding the receiving corps.
The conversation also cov...
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June 26, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss Diontae Johnson's recent appearance on a podcast, where he reflected on his tumultuous past year in the NFL. They explore the implications of his admission of humility, the red flags in his behavior with previous teams, and the opportunities that lie ahead with the Browns.
The conversation also touches on the dynamics of the quarterback comp...
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June 25, 2025 • 31 mins
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss players for the Browns who have things to prove in the upcoming season.
They talk about the futures of players like Greg Newsome II and Martin Emerson Jr., both of whom are in contract years. The conversation also covers Dawand Jones’ transition to left tackle, a decision on whether or not to extend David Njoku and Diontae Johnson's last ch...
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June 25, 2025 • 30 mins
In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' formula for winning this season. They focus on the importance of turnovers, the need for a strong running game and the potential of the defense.
They discuss the significance of playing clean football and the impact of young players stepping up on the defensive side of the ball.
Takeaways
The Browns need to play clean football to...
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June 23, 2025 • 37 mins
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on the
potential for a new starter in 2026, the implications of having a left-handed quarterback and the media attention surrounding Shedeur Sanders.
This Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast also addresses preseason strategies under Kevin Stefanski and the dynamics of the interior defensive line...
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June 19, 2025 • 28 mins
Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders has had two speeding stops twice recently and it has made headlines. Are we making too big a deal of this or is this something that could impact the team's quarterback competition?
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about why these recent incidents do matter and if there's anything to read into this as far as how far Sanders still needs to go before he's ready to be the face...
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June 18, 2025 • 36 mins
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss key questions surrounding the Browns as they approach training camp. The conversation centers on Myles Garrett's leadership and expectations, the challenges faced by Dawand Jones in establishing himself at left tackle and the future of Andrew Berry’s draft picks and who, among them, is facing an important season in 2025.
Cha...
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June 17, 2025 • 28 mins
Browns minicamp offered us a continued look at the Browns offense under head coach Kevin Stefanski and new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees and it's one of the things we're looking back on during Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took the opportunity to look at some of the non-quarterback takeaways from last week's mandatory minicamp and the offseason program as a whole.
What di...
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June 16, 2025 • 36 mins
The Browns are in the midst of a 4-man quarterback battle, but even after they pick the winner, could they still have all four quarterbacks on the 53-man roster?
Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that possibility on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about why it could happen and how it would look to keep all four on the roster.
Then they answer questions from Football Insider subsc...
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June 12, 2025 • 27 mins
The Browns wrapped up three days of mandatory minicamp on Thursday and, as has been the case all spring, the four quarterbacks were the center of attention.
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the quarterback competition on Thursday after watching the final practice.
Is Kenny Pickett the frontrunner to start? What about Joe Flacco and his chance to win the job? Where does Dillon Gabriel fit in all of this? What was...
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June 11, 2025 • 34 mins
The Browns are giving wide receiver Diontae Johnson a chance to revive his career after a 2024 season that saw the former Pro Bowler bounce around, unable to stick with a team.
Johnson spoke for the first time since signing with the Browns on Wednesday and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to it on Wednesday's minicamp recap podcast.
They also talked about Shedeur Sanders getting some second-team reps ahead of ...
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June 10, 2025 • 32 mins
The Browns held their first practice of mandatory minicamp on Tuesday, the first of three days in a row before they take their break leading into training camp.
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about what they saw and heard during practice and at the press conferences after when they heard from Myles Garrett, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel.
They discuss what Garrett had to say about embracing a bigger leade...
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June 9, 2025 • 43 mins
Browns fans will have to watch Nick Chubb wear a different uniform this season as he is visiting and expected to sign with the Texans. Our Football Insider subscribers had plenty of questions about Chubb and his departure on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.
Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk Chubb and if this could end up being a win-win for him and for the Browns.
They also talk about how diff...
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June 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz believes Myles Garrett will have his best season ever -- and needs to after his massive contract extension over offseason.
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with expectations for Garrett on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what a best ever season looks like for a former Defensive Player of the Year.
They talk about Dawand Jones and the importance of this seaso...
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June 4, 2025 • 30 mins
The Browns quarterback competition continued on Wednesday during the second open OTA practice of the team’s offseason program. It featured both rookie quarterbacks, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, getting
11-on-11, the first time we saw Sanders take team reps during an open practice.
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe cover all things rookie quarterback battle on their practice recap podcast.
They discuss why they b...
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June 3, 2025 • 39 mins
On Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot start off by discussing the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on Shedeur Sanders, Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett.
They analyze the fit of these quarterbacks within the team's offensive scheme, the importance of receiver dynamics, and the potential vulnerabilities in the roster due to injuries. The conversation also touches o...
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June 2, 2025 • 30 mins
Yes, Shedeur Sanders is getting 11-on-11 team reps, even
though we didn’t get to see any of them last week during the lone practice open
to the media.
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s
pod from the Browns 25th annual charity golf tournament by discussing head
coach Kevin Stefanski’s acknowledgement that Sanders is getting team work along
with the other quarterbacks.
They also discuss the state of the qua...
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May 29, 2025 • 43 mins
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Wednesday's OTA practice. They focus on the quarterback competition, particularly Shedeur Sanders' performance and emphasize the importance of context in evaluating practice stats.
They also get into the significance of attendance during OTAs.
Then they celebrates Mary Kay winning the Bill Nunn Jr. Award.
Takeaways:
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