Beyond the Bottom Line

Beyond the Bottom Line

Beyond the Bottom Line is a podcast for founders and business owners who want practical insight they can actually use as they grow. Hosted by Miguel Alexander Centeno, founder and CEO of Centurion Firm, the show features in-depth conversations with industry experts, clients, and business owners about how they think through tax, cash flow, operations, and the decisions that come with running a real business. We focus on how things really work when you’re scaling, what challenges tend to come up, and how other founders, experts, and operators have dealt with them. If you’re building or growing a business (often somewhere between $500K and $25M+ in revenue), this show is designed to help you make smarter financial and operational decisions and keep more of what you earn.

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October 27, 2026 • 45 mins

At 17, Zo Patoli’s dropshipping stores were making real money, until a payment processor froze the accounts and left him and his brother about $150,000 in the hole. What he did next is how he went from scrappy to serious.

In this episode, Miguel Alexander Centeno sits down with Zo, co-founder of Leapify and Lead Origin, who has spent the last decade building companies across e-commerce, services, healthcare, and now AI. He sta...

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Four years ago, Renee Sobaram joined the firm as an onboarding specialist, before it had a standard process for bringing in new clients. She built one, then grew into the client success manager role for accounting and tax, and the firm’s NPS scores climbed from sevens to eights to nines.

In this Under the Hood episode, Miguel Alexander Centeno talks with Renee as she steps into her new role as operations manager, overseeing th...

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A buyer prices a business off its profit. That means every personal expense and every dollar of unrecorded cash changes what the owner gets paid.

In this episode, Miguel Alexander Centeno sits down with Christine McDannell, founder of Magnolia Firm, a boutique M&A brokerage for digital businesses, and author of Get Acquired: Seven Steps to Your Most Lucrative Exit. She has exited 10 of her own startups, from a cleaning company i...

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The team has no room for more work, and business owners are more ready than ever to switch firms or finally look at the R&D tax credit. That is the contradiction of the weeks between the September 15 and October 15 deadlines. Miguel Alexander Centeno sits down with Ashton Chanana to talk about how he balances sales against team capacity during the busiest stretch of the year, including a recent client whose books turned out to ...

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Testing the Untestable: Building Happy Path with Noah Bortz

Long before he was automating enterprise software testing, Noah Borts was selling herbal cigarettes in high school, building a catering-scheduling platform that launched three months before COVID, and learning, the hard way, what it means to find a problem that's actually big enough to build a company around.

On this episode of Beyond the Bottom Line, Miguel sits down with N...

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In this episode of Under the Hood, Daniela turns the interview around and puts Miguel in the hot seat. They get into what burnout actually looks like for him, not too much work, but doing the wrong things at the wrong time of day, and how structuring his schedule around his own energy, rather than just pushing through, changed how he leads the team.

Miguel also reflects on a prediction that didn't pan out, the assumption that client...

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Every founder's inbox is drowning in AI-generated outreach. So where's left to actually reach people?

In this episode, Miguel talks with Sharon Melzer, co-founder of Venue Hopper, a targeted event marketing company that connects tech companies to communities in New York City. Sharon is also a content creator and marketer currently finishing her degree at NYU, sharing her take on entrepreneurship, AI, and personal branding along the ...

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Behind the Bookkeeping

In this Under the Hood minisode, Miguel sits down with Renee and Maria, two of the people quietly keeping the firm's client work running behind the scenes. Renee, who's stepping from client success and project management into an operations role, and Maria, an accountant managing the full accounting cycle for clients, talk through what a real day looks like, from Renee's early-morning quiet hours before the res...

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Leadership Lessons from the Cockpit

Most business owners plan a launch, run it, and move on to the next thing, without ever asking their team what worked and what didn't. Randy Miller learned a different way in the U.S. Air Force, where every mission ended with a "debrief," and rank didn't matter once the discussion started.

In this episode, Miguel sits down with Randy Miller, a Vistage Chair in Austin who spent over 20 years flying ...

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August 25, 2026 • 10 mins

Lessons and the Future

This time, Daniela flips the script and interviews Miguel and he doesn't get to dodge anything.

She starts with a question every partnership faces: what happens when the two of you disagree on a live client call? Miguel walks through how he handles it (hint: the client never sees the disagreement). From there, things get more personal — the last time Miguel actually burned out and what caused it, the inte...

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What happens when a self-taught 14-year-old hacker from the Dominican Republic grows up to rebuild the payments infrastructure for an entire industry? On this episode of Beyond the Bottom Line, Miguel sits down with Rodrigo Romero, founder and CEO of Aloha, a Miami-based fintech company building the banking and payments infrastructure powering the future of travel across the Americas.

Rodrigo's path started far from fintech, buildin...

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Building a Business Partnership: Miguel & Daniela's Origin Story

What does it actually take to merge two firms into one? In this minisode, Miguel sits down with his business partner, Daniela Menache, to talk about the real story behind how their partnership came together — nerves, negotiations, and all.

Before they were partners, Daniela was running a full-service firm on her own, personally reviewing 500 tax returns a year...

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If your business can't run without you for a month, it's not a business yet, it's a job.

In this episode, Miguel sits down with Christine "Chrissy" McDannell, serial entrepreneur, author, and founder of Magnolia Firm, a boutique M&A brokerage known for handling digital business exits from start to finish. Chrissy has personally built and exited 10 startups and now helps founders navigate valuation, positioning, due diligence, an...

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We get asked a lot of questions at Centurion Firm questions like, "If I can't pay my taxes, do I even need to file?" or "Isn't transferring money to myself the same as payroll?"

Most clients feel a little embarrassed to ask these questions out loud, so in this minisode, Miguel's partner, Daniela Menache, decided to answer them anyway.

There are no stupid questions, just real ones people are quietly Googling (or asking AI) instead of ...

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What if the "raise" that was supposed to keep you happy was actually the moment you realized you needed to leave?

In this episode, Miguel Alexander Centeno joins Alex Roman, host of Humans in Accounting, for a wide-ranging conversation about the real path from Big Four tax to founding Centurion Firm. It's a rare chance to hear Miguel on the other side of the mic, answering the kinds of questions he usually asks his own guests.

For an...

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July 14, 2026 • 41 mins

Most business owners think they need a CFO. What they actually need is a controller.

In this episode of Beyond the Bottom Line, Miguel Centeno sits down with Nikole Mackenzie, founder of Momentum Accounting, to unpack why so many growing businesses hire the wrong financial help at the wrong time, and what actually causes a business to look profitable on paper while running out of cash in the bank.

For founders and business owners, th...

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Most people think resilience means toughing it out. Ashton has learned it's actually about not making a bad moment worse. In this minisode, Miguel sits down with Ashton to learn the habits that keep him steady under pressure, from how he structures his day around his own energy to the boundaries that protect his focus, to the mental process he runs before responding to an angry client instead of reacting to one.

The lesson underneat...

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Most business owners think cybersecurity is about hackers in hoodies breaking through firewalls. The reality is far simpler, and far scarier: your biggest security risk is your own people.

In this episode, Miguel sits down with Matt Mulcahy, founder of Miami Cyber, to unpack what cybersecurity actually looks like for small and mid-sized businesses in the age of AI. Matt shares how a $25 million wire transfer was approved by a real e...

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We're bringing this one back because the conversation is more relevant than ever, AI search isn't slowing down, and neither is the impact on your business visibility.

Many business owners are watching their website traffic drop without understanding why. Miguel experienced this firsthand when Tax Hack's blog traffic plummeted from 88,000 to 3,000 unique visitors.

The culprit? AI overviews are changing how people find information onli...

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June 16, 2026 • 13 mins

Most founders learn leadership through business books, mentors, or painful trial and error. Miguel learned some of his most important leadership lessons at the dinner table.

In this minisode, Miguel reflects on how raising kids, especially through the messiest, most humbling moments, quietly shaped the way he leads his team. The same instinct that makes a founder dangerous at work, the certainty that you know best, is the exact inst...

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