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October 9, 2025 30 mins

Warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide.

In one of the first cases of the Supreme Court’s new term, the justices considered whether to strike down a ban on conversion therapy, the contentious practice that aims to change a young person’s sexual orientation.

Ann E. Marimow, Supreme Court correspondent for The New York Times, talks us through the case.

Guest: Ann E. Marimow, who covers the Supreme Court for The New York Times from Washington.

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