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July 23, 2025 34 mins

Warning: This episode contains strong language.

An explosive whistle-blower report claims that the Justice Department is asking government lawyers to lie to the courts, and that this has forced career officials to chose between upholding the Constitution and pledging loyalty to the president.

Rachel Abrams speaks to the whistle-blower about his career in the Justice Department and his complaint saying he was fired for telling the truth.

Guest: Erez Reuveni, who filed a whistle-blower complaint against the Department of Justice.

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