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April 21, 2025 26 mins

Across the country, millions of Americans with unpaid student loans are discovering that years of patience and forgiveness from the U.S. government have officially come to an end.

Stacy Cowley, a business reporter for The Times, explains what is behind the change of heart, sets out its financial consequences for borrowers — and discusses the larger reckoning that it may cause about how Americans pay for higher education.

Guest: Stacy Cowley, a business reporter at The New York Times, with a focus on consumer finance.

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Photo: Seth Wenig/Associated Press

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