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September 11, 2025 37 mins

Charlie Kirk, the conservative organizer, activist and media mogul, died on Wednesday after being shot during an appearance at Utah Valley University.

Mr. Kirk brought millions of young Americans in to the Republican Party, and to the ballot box for Donald Trump.

Robert Draper, who profiled Charlie Kirk for The New York Times Magazine, discusses Mr. Kirk’s improbable rise to power, his stunning assassination, and his controversial legacy.

Guest: Robert Draper, a Washington, D.C.-based journalist for The New York Times.

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