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June 2, 2025 26 mins

A Times investigation has found that as Elon Musk became one of President Trump’s closest and most influential advisers, he was juggling an increasingly chaotic personal life and a drug habit far more serious than previously known.

Kirsten Grind and Megan Twohey, two investigative reporters at The New York Times, discuss why those closest to Mr. Musk are finally sounding the alarm.

Guest:

  • Kirsten Grind, an investigative business reporter at The New York Times.
  • Megan Twohey, an investigative reporter at The New York Times.

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