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October 3, 2025 29 mins

The suffering in the Gaza Strip has fueled international pressure on Israel to end the war and pushed western powers to recognize a Palestinian state. The isolation was on display last week at the United Nations.

Jessica Cheung, a producer for “The Daily,” speaks to Riyad Mansour, the Palestinian ambassador to the U.N., about what Palestinian statehood means to him.

Then, Mark Landler, the London bureau chief of The New York Times, discusses what the recognition means without the support of the United States and Israel, which was underscored in their new peace plan.

Guest:

  • Riyad Mansour, the Palestinian ambassador to the U.N.
  • Mark Landler, the London bureau chief of The New York Times.

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Photo: Angelina Katsanis/Associated Press

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