In this powerful and deeply honest conversation, Lisa talks with author and speaker Jody Allen about her new book Hidden Heartache: Finding Courage When Your Husband Struggles with Pornography. Jody shares her story of walking through the pain of a broken marriage, navigating the fallout of her husband’s addiction, and finding courage and hope on the other side. Together, they talk about: • Healing and growing even when someone else’s choices caused the hurt • Why being honest about our pain is essential to our healing • The difference between being a peacemaker and a peacekeeper • How to take responsibility for our own healing journey • Praying boldly with confidence that God is good, He loves us, and He can be trusted This conversation is for every woman who has faced heartbreak, betrayal, or disappointment—and needs the reminder that God can bring beauty even from the hardest places. Key Quotes: • “Sometimes some of our deepest wounds do come from somebody else’s choices.” • “The Bible calls us to be peacemakers, not peacekeepers. And if we’re just keeping peace for the sake of keeping peace, it’s really not peace at all.” • “Our healing is our healing.” • “It’s important when we go through something hard, that we be students of ourselves. That we learn, because that’s how we grow as a person.” • “God loves me. I can trust Him. He is good.” Guest Bio: Jody Allen is a writer, speaker, and women’s ministry leader who isn’t afraid to talk about hard stuff. After her marriage ended following years of her husband’s struggle with pornography, Jody found herself navigating heartbreak, questions, and a story she never asked for. Instead of keeping it hidden, she chose to speak up—so other women wouldn’t feel so alone. Her debut book, Hidden Heartache: Finding Courage When Your Husband Struggles with Pornography, offers honest, hope-filled support to women facing similar battles. Jody lives in North Carolina and works on staff at her church. She’s a fan of a good mystery, Sunday naps, and chunky ice cream—and she believes that even when life doesn’t turn out the way you hoped, it can still lead somewhere good. Connect with Jody: https://www.jodyallenwrites.com/
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