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good evening everyone.
This is Harry's Facebook for Sunday,the 4th of May, 2025, and this is where
we share Facebook posts that shared onthe Autistic Radio's Facebook page and
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the discussions that come from that.
So we start with the first post,and it's from Embrace Autism.
Our mental health service, sciencewebsite and diagnostic center, and
they do research based informationand empowerment by autistics.
For autistics.
Embrace your advantages and what they'reshared is about autistics work hard
and what they're saying is autisticstend to prefer doing work and pursuing
interest over socializing and are
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prone to do work for lesser rewards.
This has both benefits and consequences,and the link that goes to is a
research that was published on the2nd of November back to 18, and it
was updated in July 13th, 2024, andit's called Autistic Work Card, and
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I'll just share the introduction.
It says that clinical observationsindicate that autistics may have reduced
motivation to seek social interaction,yet a heightened motivation to
expend effort in the pursuitof certain non-social stimuli.
In other words, we tend toprefer doing work or pursuing
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interest over socializing.
But also we expend effort onour pursuits for lesser rewards,
which is a double-edged sword.
We are more likely to pursue interestdespite fewer rewards, but because
of this, we make ourselves vulnerableto be taken advantage of hospital's.
Thoughts on that?
well, I have an immediatethought on that, and that is
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about being taken advantage of.
I have recently been offered variousopportunities to talk on behalf of
autistic radio and on behalf of autisticassociation, and because I can pick
and choose, I always respond askingwhatever organization to make a donation
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to the charity if they want to use myprofessional time, which I could use to.
Work in my business and earn moneyand they want me to speak with them
or present at a conference, I'm happyto do it for free as long as they are
paying something towards the charity.
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Recently we were offered quite a smallamount by one of these organizations and
I responded that it would be lovely totake part, but as far as I knew, there
were two versions of being invited.
You either were invited and then givenpocket money, or you were invited and paid
a professional fee, and I said I wouldbe happy to do it if a professional fee
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was paid into the charity, and becauseI said that they increased the amount
by five times and they're going to makethat donation to the charity and also pay
my costs so I'm not out of pocket exceptfor the time that I miss from working.
The double-edged sword here is whetherwe turn round and say, this is what we
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expect in a polite and sensible way.
Framing it in a way thatmakes sense to them.
That's what I would encourage.
I also have made the samegambit and never heard from them
again, and those organizations,they're just not valuing me.
And if they're not willing to paya small amount to the charity, I
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don't believe that they are valuingthe input, saying that they do value
our input, but not putting a moneyfigure on it is not good enough.
Here, Jules, like, I feel is whatyou're talking about with like,
these professional boundaries.
, It's really live in my life just
now, like personally as well.
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And this post bringsup quite a lot for me.
Like I really relate to.
Then not finding socializingas intrinsically rewarding.
I just don't, and I'vealways preferred like.
Being engaged in hobbies or studyingor working over socializing.
But.
In life, I've learned that if Iisolate too much it's pretty dangerous.
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And also has like badeffects on my mental health.
So I kinda, I schedule in the, likesocializing in contact with people
'cause I know it's good for me.
But yeah, like I remember being at uni andbeing much happier going to the library
on a Friday night than going out at all.
And it would've helped if I'dbeen able to drink because.
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When I was about 18, I was like a, I drankand socialized and it was, it kind of
seemed to kinda work, but my body doesn'ttolerate alcohol well, so I ended up
having to be a bit of a hermit for a longtime, which is probably like a good thing.
What reminds me of is my ownenthusiasm to go on with things,
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especially if it's something youknow, that I'm really interested in.
Like a lot of the kinda voluntary stuff.
I'm on the committees the associations,and I sometimes, or maybe most of the time
I actually do the work of two or threepeople because I want to get it done.
And it's not because I'm actuallystepping somebody's toes to do that.
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It's actually either supportingsomeone or there isn't someone
in that position to do it.
It's voluntary anyway, andI get plenty of applaud.
It's plenty of compliments, butit just feels good doing so.
But what you need as well is you needto feel appreciated and you feel that
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you've done something worthwhile.
So yes, but that's where itresponds to me, and I think
that's what actually puts me
off actually getting employment.
Because if it turns into a job, theenthusiasm might wane because when
you've got a job and you are gettingpaid to do a certain type of task, I
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don't know if I could actually do thatbecause my mind wants to do a lot more
than actually just a simple task, if
you know what I'm talking about.
There's a comment from KathyRoberts saying, absolutely.
I'm becoming more and more of a herbecause of the trauma around me.
Just before we started the broadcast, Iwas speaking to Jules and I was speaking
about how I was socializing this weekend.
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I was socializing on Friday.
I was actually in Glasgow in anoisy coffee shop, busy as it
would be, and in a bar as well.
And
I enjoyed it, but then I enjoyedit a lot more when I was home
and because I live alone.
So it's like I've kind oftalked about it before.
It's just this sort of, kind of respite.
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And I wasn't planning to do anythingthe next day and if I wasn't
going to be speak to anybody ata considerable amount of time.
So it's kind of resting and in doingthat it gives me the opportunity to
do some of the work that I do and Ido it my own pace, but I get it done.
I can enjoy doing that.
All I was talking about is see this kindaher thing that you may feel sometimes.
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That's too much.
You're not getting it at all.
I mean, that can happen.
That can be other side of it, butit's just talking about the kind of
positive side of being in the houseand not going out for a day or two
in that conversation we had before wecame on air, I was saying that for a
couple of weeks, I've been alone here.
My wife and my daughter have beenaway in Italy doing their own
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thing, and I. It was a lovely thing.
It was a lovely thing that the only twopeople I spoke to was an employee for
a very short time, and the vegetableman in the shop opposite for a very
short time, and the rest of it wasall just taking part in podcasts.
But it does worry me whenever we comeacross people who say that they're
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becoming more and more of a hermitor more and more isolated, that
it can go too far because I know.
For me, I need my own solitude,but I also come across people who
have let that go so far that theycan't come back to socialize.
And it worries me often
there's a comment in the comingfrom Facebook, from GR saying, when
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I look back, the jobs I enjoyedand thrived in were those where
I was left alone or worked alone.
Well, I worked out once, I think it was,I did 30 different jobs for 46 different
companies in the 30 years I worked.
What kind of work did you do?
Well, I always say the only jobs Ihaven't done is Doctor who in the Pope.
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And so fingers crossed for the Pope.
I've literally done everything fromcleaning jobs up to I was the technical
and marketing product manager forDigital Road Networks ordinance survey.
There's another story in here.
GI though, isn't there?
Because if you had to work in all ofthese different jobs, something was.
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Meaning it wasn't possiblefor you to find your own niche
in there to stay long enough.
You are demonstrating an incredibleamount of enthusiasm, skills, adaption,
because you are getting these jobs, you'rebeing able to do them, but something
is not allowing you to stick there.
So potentially that means thatthe organizations you are working
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with are not valuing well enough.
Or am I reading too much into it?
I did four years in a builder's merchant'syard and then I did eight years as a
laborer and they were my two longest jobsand I was ordinance survey nine years.
And there's a lot of after ordinancesurvey where I was bullied out.
My confidence was gone.
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I just went from job to job and sometimesI'd be dismissed after a short period
of time or I would just walk away aftera even just a day or a couple of weeks.
That's just the way it was.
That must have, I telllove people actually.
A lot of , autistic people who arereally good or could be really good
at a. It's forced out because of theculture you're up against or because
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the society we live in, there'sa sort of kind of normal, average
person that you're measured against.
So if you behave in a certainway that's too far away from that
measurement you looked upon asodd and subordinate, whatever.
And people are kinda, it's
like these people want you aroundunless they want to use you.
Which happens to a lot ofvulnerable people as well.
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Kathy, in the comments to saying, Iwas late diagnosed, so it makes sense
why I felt outta place in those roles.
I work much better on my own.
The culture was awful.
I haven't had many jobs,but I relate to you, Kathy.
The only way I managed to makeany kind of inroads into the world
of work was the very difficultroute of being self-employed.
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I was not self-employed by choicebecause I wanted to be a multimillionaire
or one of these other aspirationsthat the conventional society have.
I just couldn't work withinthe structure that was offered
by the working environment.
So what the actual world of workmisses out from is our talent
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because of the way they structure.
Kathy in the comment says, same here,self-employed because I'm unemployable
here due to my disabilities.
Self-employment can be quite simple.
You don't necessarily needa shop or a shop front even.
You can work from home.
It can all be minimal, but at the endof the day, you're having to do it
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all, which is a great pressure as well.
And it will always be external forcesand influences that want to pick at
what you're doing and try and judge it.
If you're wi, you can figureyour way through that.
Very much a regular option, I thinkfor people who assume, think like us.
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'cause I'm trying to finda common thread here.
It's like, do people actually like work?
Do they want to work?
Is it forced upon them?
You have to do it to survive?
Are there alternatives?
All those questions, you knowit Fundamental aspects of life.
There's a phrase whichgoes with self-employment.
It's usually on bank adverts whenthey're encouraging people to be
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self-employed, and it's being yourown boss and it's bollocks for
those people in the United States.
It's crap shit.
And the reason it's crap andshit and bollocks is because
you are never your own boss.
I'm self-employed at the moment,and every single one of my customers
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believes that they are my boss.
So everything that you have todo with a single boss, you have
to do with those customers.
The only difference is that every nowand again, I tell one of those customers
to go and stick it, and I've still gotthe other 99% of my customers left.
But if I do that in the normalway of things, I am cutting
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off the only income I have.
So being self-employed can bespreading your risk against which
neurotypical person doesn't likethe way that you deal with them.
Got some more comments.
Coming in from Facebook, grsays, another thing with a
big company is reorganization.
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Ordinance survey did this every 18 monthsand we had to reapply for our jobs.
I stopped doing that.
No one applied for my job,so it stayed the same.
And then Kathy says, I do want to work.
I love what I do.
It is the systems thatcreate the barriers for me.
Numbers.
I am pretty good with technology,but trying to navigate
government websites breaks me.
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I get locked out all the time and youcan't even get a phone number anymore.
Nobody will help you.
. The next post is from AutisticJazzy, which is a personal blog.
Hi, I am Jazzy.
I have level two autistic andsevere A DHD and mental health.
I am really happy most ofthe time, but not always.
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And what they shared is a quotewhich says, autistic don't end at 21.
I was diagnosed at 53 and I'venot really had much support.
And I think it's because it's, if youmanage to make 53 years without any
support that you're gonna be okay.
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Yeah.
It seems to be thatkinda attitude out there.
All although it's not just that, it'sjust lack of services for anything,
and that's just one of the ones thatthey never got round to because what
we've discussed and what's been sharedmany times from us and on Facebook.
Is a lot of autisticservices, autistic support.
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A lot of discussion is around childrenand how vulnerable children are and , how
the support needs to be there forchildren, particularly not just
school, but that's a big factor.
But in the home, in society.
When you get to a certainage, sometimes 18,
something's 21.
Sometimes a lot older than that.
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As you've just said, gi,it's like you're an adult and
there never seems tobe anything available.
Sometimes not even a simple supportmechanism is information somewhere
to guide you, and that's such aproblem because a lot of people
will be identified, diagnosedbecause of the way it comes about.
There's people that I'm aware of that findout they're autistic because they have
children and one of their children or all
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of their
children are autistic and they kindaresearch to see where it came from.
So yeah, so I totally getthat quote and what it means.
Very simplistic, but very true.
I have a slightly different takehere because here at Autistic Radio,
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we come across a lot of people whoare late diagnosed like myself.
And the reason that they are latediagnosed or late identified is because
they've come to a point in life wherethey're not okay, and the identification
is something that leads them to abetter place where they become okay.
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So I would be concerned if wesend out a message saying that.
Struggling and struggling to the endof your life without coming to terms
with the knowledge of your own autisticis the best situation, and because
you've managed so far, you can cope.
I would say the reality is that formany of us, finding out our diagnosis
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late in life or identity late inlife is necessary and a release and.
Also, I would say stealth identity.
Finding your own kin, findingautistic people to get alongside
that is perfectly good.
Diagnosis is not necessary.
The medics try to say thatit has to be a diagnosis.
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Well, no, you are in control ofyour own life and understanding
your own self comes from you.
So self-diagnosis is accepted in all good.
Autistic spaces.
There's some comments.
Kathy says, . Our major websites arenot even compliant for accessibility.
And then someone said, I thinkif we have a critique of the
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system, then that is our job.
And Kathy says, a hundred percent,especially with the financial barriers,
it is thousands of dollars here.
The next post is fromHalen Autistic Realms.
What they've shared is, for toolong, autism has been explained.
From the outside, it's time to tellour own stories and embrace monism.
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Explore our map of mon
Experie reopen source training andcollaborations with punks, and there's a
link to a newsletter . There's a link to.
What the training says, map with tropicexperiences reframing autism through
a neurodiversity affirming lens,and it's created by Helen Edgar at
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Autistic Realms and Ryan Borin, NoraHobbes and Chelsea Adams of STEM Punks.
Free training for professionals,families, and community groups
to support autistic people and.
The introduction of this, it saysthat at Autistic realms and STEM
pumps, we believe in telling our ownstories and validating each other.
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Experie.
The map of modern tropic species are acollaborative project by Helen Edgar,
Autistic Realms and Stem Pumps Foundation.
Ryan Boen, Nora Hobbes, and Chelsea Adams.
Created by and for autistic people.
I created the original map in 2024 as a
reflection of my ownmono tropic experiences.
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This was inspired by GemmaCorals, a map of procrastination.
We have developed this further andare offering a space for everyone to
reflect on their authentic identity as
Autistic and A DHD people, and discoverhow embracing the theory or mantra may
help develop a stronger understandingof identity and support wellbeing.
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I was reading about the other night.
Is this an extension of the previousdiscussion about self-employment?
To a certain extent.
You know, there's people in thecommunity who are becoming employed as.
Training resources.
'cause I read further into it,there are fees, although most of
it is free, I think to begin with.
And I kinda like these people some.
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Well, yeah, there's a lot of thingsI've been consuming since I got my
diagnosis and, these people were partof it, but you know, it's very fluid,
. It says that reframing in deficientmodels of autism and valuing autistic
lived experience, it says our traininghelps to reframe how we understand
ourselves and autistic people, notthrough the deficit focused lens
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of traditional autism research, butthrough lived experience and voices.
Open source training offersa radical affirming reframe
of autism ground in the theory ofmonoism, a way of understanding the
deep focused attention patterns commonamongst autistic and A DHD individuals.
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Rather than seeing autistictraits as deficits, monoism
recognize our tropic interest.
Space nervous system is a natural andmeaningful way of engaging with the world.
At the heart of our work is theimportance of embracing authentic
Autistic identity, not as somethingbroken or needing correction, but as
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a valuable and vibrant way of being.
Building strong communityconnections and validating lived
species, a central part to this.
You'll learn to understand e theoryof monism and importance of flow.
Recognize how environmentscan create stuck states.
Explore the detrimental impact ofneuronal domination on Autistic wellbeing.
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Create flow supportive environmentswhere all minds can thrive.
Understand intersectionalityand the double empathy
problem for deeper inclusion.
Celebrate authentic Autistic identityand the strength of community
storytelling and shared experiences.
Say it's better for schools,healthcare settings, workplaces
and community networks, and acreative tool for reflection,
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correction, and meaningful change.
The training content is approximately4,000 words designed to cover around
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Delivered live is a workshop with spacefor discussion and question answers.
It typically runs for one to twohours and can be expanded into
a full day session if referred.
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I have a lot of positives to say.
I am quite happy for autistic people tobe the professionals out there who are
getting paid to present about autism.
I'm very happy that they describeit as a explanation from us rather
than for us and on our behalf.
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So coming directly from autisticpeople, the only caveat I have is
I don't understand mono tropismand I'm not willing to pay for
somebody to explain it to me.
What I would be interestedin is somebody to.
Bring some kind of knowledge ofmono tropism here to autistic radio.
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Discuss it with us, make a podcast with usso that it then encourages their business.
So far, the people haveexplained mono tropism to me,
or the explanations I've seen.
They look very much like a b,a based medical model based.
Slurs on the autistic identity.
They don't feel life affirmingfor me, but I want to be educated.
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So if somebody is willing to comeand explain it to autistic radio
and encourage the world to see howit works through their eyes, I'm
really happy to facilitate that.
I'm certainly always up for stuffthat's more positive minded.
And more inclusive mindedthan it's been done before.
Because although the sharing negativeexperiences as important, it's always
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also important to be authentic andas positive as possible, as well
give people hope, especially ifthey're going through a hard time.
They don't want the people to
feel that.
All these stories, allthese kinda really toughs.
Experiences, people are sharing that'sall they've got to look forward to.
It's like to encourage people to likethemselves, because there's a lot of
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people that are autistic , that have beenmade to feel inferior, and that's a hard
thing to shape off and someone else hasbeen doing that for a long time to you,
especially if it's authority figures.
And sometimes unfortunately it can
be family.
There's a comment coming fromKathy saying, Dr. Wen Lawson
has a load of free resources.
I get to work with themevery now and then.
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Well, Kathy, I'm confused about monotropism, some of the people who've
described it to me, it looks a bit culty.
It looks a bit like somebody is forcinga metaphor on the rest of the community.
And I need somebody to come and speakto me and explain it in a way that
I can understand and get behind it.
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At the moment, it looks verynegative to me, so I need somebody
to come forward, and if you canencourage that would be brilliant.
The next post is from artists andAutism and Friends, which is an
arts and humanities website sharingof art and encouraging the artists
who are on the autism spectrum andothers who are differently abled.
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And what
they shared is a picture of dandelions.
What it says is the dandelions havegone to seed really early this year
as Rose Morrison has illustratedso beautifully with alcohol links.
Was also recently featured in a newsarticle, linked in the comments,
and it wasn't in the comments'cause I shared it, but it's
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an article's talking about anexhibition in the United States and
it's an artist with a vision loss.
But the reason they shared that is'cause artists and autism and friends,
and I'm aware that many people.
A lot of autistic people, if notall, have a special interest.
And it's usually something like, itcan be music, it can be writing, it
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can be art, and we share a lot of thesetypes of pages and groups on the page
just to demonstrate that, especiallyvery talented people and it's nice
pictures has been shown on the page.
. I
think this is brilliant.
Harry.
Thanks for the link.
I've just been reading the thing in thecomments about the vision loss techniques
used by the sars, so that idea of beingable to still do things you want to do,
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that you like doing, even if your sensesare beginning to fade, would normally
make you think you couldn't do it anymore.
But there are ways and it'svery intriguing and I need
to get some depth of thought.
I just want you to comment on themention of like this, these alcohol pens.
My daughter got some, and they'reabsolutely lovely to work with.
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Like if you're coloring in withthem, and you go over the same spot.
The color doesn't get any denser, soyou get a really lovely flat wash.
They're really satisfying and theyblend really well and I saw some in,
like, I saw some in Aldi for very cheapcompared to what I'd seen them on online.
The next post is from Sens Station,which is a product and service, and
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sometimes learning is simply better
online.
S. A great destination and whatthey're promoting is a session
called Transform Early Communicationthrough Music and Autistic Expertise.
And what it says, do you work withor care for a child who is nonverbal
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or developing communication skills,this interactive training session.
We'll show you how musicalcommunication can open doors to
impactful learning and connection.
What you'll gain is insights intoautistic profiles and early communication
challenges, practical strategiesusing musical communication to enhance
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engagement and real world techniques toapply immediately at school and home.
It's led by Nicola Duran, autisticspecialist, teacher and consultant.
This session combines expertise,actionable advice, and imitative
approaches to help children thrive.
So what's included is a summaryhandout with key strategies, a
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certificate of attendance to markyour learning milestone, all for
just 12 pounds, 95 pounds perdelegate, plus booking fee in VAT.
The spaces are fillingfast, so don't miss out.
And you can reserve a spot throughEventbrite, which has the link below.
Most people have neverheard of this before,
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not specifically in this context,Harry, but music therapies
pretty much a mainstay, isn't it?
It does look like quite a goodthing, depending how it's done.
'cause music is a big thing.
Music is a great way of includingpeople, but it just depends how they do
it and how they talk about, I suppose.
It's some completely new to me
If you look at the actual bookingpage, it's aimed at some kids that
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are nonverbal and the parents are notgetting a good sense of communication.
It's a tool music.
I'm guessing that the experience.
Is going to be a positive experienceand with the people it's aimed at,
I think we can forget all of thetropes about whether the kids are
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being included and things like that.
You know, it's a basic thing thatyoung children benefit from rhythm and
the experience of being in a group.
And if we get some encouragement.
For any of the people listed useful,it says for parents, teachers, and
learning support assistants to beplayful and musical with their kids
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rather than this carrot and stick a,b, a, sit down for hours and hours
and learn these separate things.
It looks like a positive experience to me.
Well, thanks.
Discussion tonight.
It was, really enjoyable.
Again,
so this is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 4th of May, 2025.
Which is part of the 5 55spiritual VO conversation, which
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is here every Sunday, UK time.
So thank you once again.
I and now pass over to Jules.
That's great, Harry, as always,thank you from everybody here
for putting the work you do into.
Sharing these posts, finding theseposts, and creating that autistic radio
com Facebook page, which is part ofsocial media, but a safe space to go to.
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I don't look at anywhere elseexcept your Facebook page.
At this point in the show, we talk alittle bit about autistic association,
which supports autistic radio andthe activities of autistic radio.
We're presenting at an upcomingconference for the professionals who
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are trying to reduce the amount ofrestraint that's used on autistic people
and people with learning disabilitiesand other people who are under the
care of professionals in institutions.
So we will be presenting the autisticradio model there in a couple of weeks.
It has an association with a b, A as well.
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So we are hoping that if we keep adialogue going with a b, a practitioners
here in the uk, it's possible that it willhave a small amount of influence on them.
We also have podcasts that we develop.
Very soon.
We have a podcast, whichis an introduction to.
GR Robertson, who, when you hearit, you will be quite amazed at
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the autistic person who found outabout them themselves later in life.
And they're also their, backgroundin music, working with the Rolling
Stones and other different artists.
I have a podcast coming up to record witha lady who commented on our social media.
Asking why the autistic communitydoes not seem to be standing up for
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the Jewish community and showing somedisappointment in the autistic community.
I found that confusing, so I'm hoping tohave a good conversation with her and put
that out as a podcast and also in edit.
At the moment, we have a podcast withthe two professionals who discussed
the difference between a, B, a.
And floor time.
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So an alternative to a b, a two parents,two educationalists, two doctors
speaking together through autistic radio.
I found that conversationvery enlightening.
So I hope when the podcast gets outthere, you'll find that enlightening too.
So thank you to Autistic Association,the charity created by autistic
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people to support autistic radio.
And thank you to everybody else outthere who is either listening to
us or willing to take part with us.
If you are somebody who's willingto take part, get in contact.
There's always space for you.
Autistic radio is about us.
It's for us, and it's from us.
Autistic Radio is about you.
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It's for you, and it can be from you.
We have every single Sunday dropin four, four 4:00 PM every Sunday.
That's not live.
That's us getting together,us talking community.
Every Sunday, Harry leads a fivefive 5:00 PM a discussion around
the Facebook page that he creates.
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Involve yourself by suggestingwhat we should talk about next.
Share it with Harry and.
The bigger picture, advocate, use us.
Speak to the world, your project,your idea, your enthusiasm.
We have a whole range of differentprograms that will fit what you want.
As far as listening goes, there'ssome challenging stuff out there.
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Because amongst the identity, theentertainment, and the community,
we also make serious programs withautism professionals challenging
their ideas and bringing whatyou say in other spaces to them.
A lot of those are difficult listens,but it's a holistic gathering.
It comes all together.
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Autistic radio is very varied.
We need a favor to encourage us.
We need you to share us.
When you share us.
You give autistic people power.
When you share us, you makeus impossible to ignore.
When you repost on LinkedIn and Facebookand anywhere else, you are advocating
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for everybody in the autistic community.
So pick the things that you arehappy with and get them out there.
So thank you, thank you, thankyou, thank you from all of us.
We speak our words, we listen,we speak our words, we listen.
We speak our words.
We listen.
We speak our words.
We listen
good evening everyone.
This is Harry's Facebook for Sunday,the 4th of May, 2025, and this is where
we share Facebook posts that shared onthe Autistic Radio's Facebook page and
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the discussions that come from that.
So we start with the first post,and it's from Embrace Autism.
Our mental health service, sciencewebsite and diagnostic center, and
they do research based informationand empowerment by autistics.
For autistics.
Embrace your advantages and what they'reshared is about autistics work hard
and what they're saying is autisticstend to prefer doing work and pursuing
interest over socializing and are
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prone to do work for lesser rewards.
This has both benefits and consequences,and the link that goes to is a
research that was published on the2nd of November back to 18, and it
was updated in July 13th, 2024, andit's called Autistic Work Card, and
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I'll just share the introduction.
It says that clinical observationsindicate that autistics may have reduced
motivation to seek social interaction,yet a heightened motivation to
expend effort in the pursuitof certain non-social stimuli.
In other words, we tend toprefer doing work or pursuing
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interest over socializing.
But also we expend effort onour pursuits for lesser rewards,
which is a double-edged sword.
We are more likely to pursue interestdespite fewer rewards, but because
of this, we make ourselves vulnerableto be taken advantage of hospital's.
Thoughts on that?
well, I have an immediatethought on that, and that is
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about being taken advantage of.
I have recently been offered variousopportunities to talk on behalf of
autistic radio and on behalf of autisticassociation, and because I can pick
and choose, I always respond askingwhatever organization to make a donation
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to the charity if they want to use myprofessional time, which I could use to.
Work in my business and earn moneyand they want me to speak with them
or present at a conference, I'm happyto do it for free as long as they are
paying something towards the charity.
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Recently we were offered quite a smallamount by one of these organizations and
I responded that it would be lovely totake part, but as far as I knew, there
were two versions of being invited.
You either were invited and then givenpocket money, or you were invited and paid
a professional fee, and I said I wouldbe happy to do it if a professional fee
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was paid into the charity, and becauseI said that they increased the amount
by five times and they're going to makethat donation to the charity and also pay
my costs so I'm not out of pocket exceptfor the time that I miss from working.
The double-edged sword here is whetherwe turn round and say, this is what we
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expect in a polite and sensible way.
Framing it in a way thatmakes sense to them.
That's what I would encourage.
I also have made the samegambit and never heard from them
again, and those organizations,they're just not valuing me.
And if they're not willing to paya small amount to the charity, I
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don't believe that they are valuingthe input, saying that they do value
our input, but not putting a moneyfigure on it is not good enough.
Here, Jules, like, I feel is whatyou're talking about with like,
these professional boundaries.
, It's really live in my life just
now, like personally as well.
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And this post bringsup quite a lot for me.
Like I really relate to.
Then not finding socializingas intrinsically rewarding.
I just don't, and I'vealways preferred like.
Being engaged in hobbies or studyingor working over socializing.
But.
In life, I've learned that if Iisolate too much it's pretty dangerous.
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And also has like badeffects on my mental health.
So I kinda, I schedule in the, likesocializing in contact with people
'cause I know it's good for me.
But yeah, like I remember being at uni andbeing much happier going to the library
on a Friday night than going out at all.
And it would've helped if I'dbeen able to drink because.
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When I was about 18, I was like a, I drankand socialized and it was, it kind of
seemed to kinda work, but my body doesn'ttolerate alcohol well, so I ended up
having to be a bit of a hermit for a longtime, which is probably like a good thing.
What reminds me of is my ownenthusiasm to go on with things,
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especially if it's something youknow, that I'm really interested in.
Like a lot of the kinda voluntary stuff.
I'm on the committees the associations,and I sometimes, or maybe most of the time
I actually do the work of two or threepeople because I want to get it done.
And it's not because I'm actuallystepping somebody's toes to do that.
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It's actually either supportingsomeone or there isn't someone
in that position to do it.
It's voluntary anyway, andI get plenty of applaud.
It's plenty of compliments, butit just feels good doing so.
But what you need as well is you needto feel appreciated and you feel that
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you've done something worthwhile.
So yes, but that's where itresponds to me, and I think
that's what actually puts me
off actually getting employment.
Because if it turns into a job, theenthusiasm might wane because when
you've got a job and you are gettingpaid to do a certain type of task, I
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don't know if I could actually do thatbecause my mind wants to do a lot more
than actually just a simple task, if
you know what I'm talking about.
There's a comment from KathyRoberts saying, absolutely.
I'm becoming more and more of a herbecause of the trauma around me.
Just before we started the broadcast, Iwas speaking to Jules and I was speaking
about how I was socializing this weekend.
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I was socializing on Friday.
I was actually in Glasgow in anoisy coffee shop, busy as it
would be, and in a bar as well.
And
I enjoyed it, but then I enjoyedit a lot more when I was home
and because I live alone.
So it's like I've kind oftalked about it before.
It's just this sort of, kind of respite.
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And I wasn't planning to do anythingthe next day and if I wasn't
going to be speak to anybody ata considerable amount of time.
So it's kind of resting and in doingthat it gives me the opportunity to
do some of the work that I do and Ido it my own pace, but I get it done.
I can enjoy doing that.
All I was talking about is see this kindaher thing that you may feel sometimes.
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That's too much.
You're not getting it at all.
I mean, that can happen.
That can be other side of it, butit's just talking about the kind of
positive side of being in the houseand not going out for a day or two
in that conversation we had before wecame on air, I was saying that for a
couple of weeks, I've been alone here.
My wife and my daughter have beenaway in Italy doing their own
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thing, and I. It was a lovely thing.
It was a lovely thing that the only twopeople I spoke to was an employee for
a very short time, and the vegetableman in the shop opposite for a very
short time, and the rest of it wasall just taking part in podcasts.
But it does worry me whenever we comeacross people who say that they're
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becoming more and more of a hermitor more and more isolated, that
it can go too far because I know.
For me, I need my own solitude,but I also come across people who
have let that go so far that theycan't come back to socialize.
And it worries me often
there's a comment in the comingfrom Facebook, from GR saying, when
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I look back, the jobs I enjoyedand thrived in were those where
I was left alone or worked alone.
Well, I worked out once, I think it was,I did 30 different jobs for 46 different
companies in the 30 years I worked.
What kind of work did you do?
Well, I always say the only jobs Ihaven't done is Doctor who in the Pope.
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And so fingers crossed for the Pope.
I've literally done everything fromcleaning jobs up to I was the technical
and marketing product manager forDigital Road Networks ordinance survey.
There's another story in here.
GI though, isn't there?
Because if you had to work in all ofthese different jobs, something was.
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Meaning it wasn't possiblefor you to find your own niche
in there to stay long enough.
You are demonstrating an incredibleamount of enthusiasm, skills, adaption,
because you are getting these jobs, you'rebeing able to do them, but something
is not allowing you to stick there.
So potentially that means thatthe organizations you are working
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with are not valuing well enough.
Or am I reading too much into it?
I did four years in a builder's merchant'syard and then I did eight years as a
laborer and they were my two longest jobsand I was ordinance survey nine years.
And there's a lot of after ordinancesurvey where I was bullied out.
My confidence was gone.
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I just went from job to job and sometimesI'd be dismissed after a short period
of time or I would just walk away aftera even just a day or a couple of weeks.
That's just the way it was.
That must have, I telllove people actually.
A lot of , autistic people who arereally good or could be really good
at a. It's forced out because of theculture you're up against or because
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the society we live in, there'sa sort of kind of normal, average
person that you're measured against.
So if you behave in a certainway that's too far away from that
measurement you looked upon asodd and subordinate, whatever.
And people are kinda, it's
like these people want you aroundunless they want to use you.
Which happens to a lot ofvulnerable people as well.
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Kathy, in the comments to saying, Iwas late diagnosed, so it makes sense
why I felt outta place in those roles.
I work much better on my own.
The culture was awful.
I haven't had many jobs,but I relate to you, Kathy.
The only way I managed to makeany kind of inroads into the world
of work was the very difficultroute of being self-employed.
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I was not self-employed by choicebecause I wanted to be a multimillionaire
or one of these other aspirationsthat the conventional society have.
I just couldn't work withinthe structure that was offered
by the working environment.
So what the actual world of workmisses out from is our talent
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because of the way they structure.
Kathy in the comment says, same here,self-employed because I'm unemployable
here due to my disabilities.
Self-employment can be quite simple.
You don't necessarily needa shop or a shop front even.
You can work from home.
It can all be minimal, but at the endof the day, you're having to do it
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all, which is a great pressure as well.
And it will always be external forcesand influences that want to pick at
what you're doing and try and judge it.
If you're wi, you can figureyour way through that.
Very much a regular option, I thinkfor people who assume, think like us.
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'cause I'm trying to finda common thread here.
It's like, do people actually like work?
Do they want to work?
Is it forced upon them?
You have to do it to survive?
Are there alternatives?
All those questions, you knowit Fundamental aspects of life.
There's a phrase whichgoes with self-employment.
It's usually on bank adverts whenthey're encouraging people to be
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self-employed, and it's being yourown boss and it's bollocks for
those people in the United States.
It's crap shit.
And the reason it's crap andshit and bollocks is because
you are never your own boss.
I'm self-employed at the moment,and every single one of my customers
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believes that they are my boss.
So everything that you have todo with a single boss, you have
to do with those customers.
The only difference is that every nowand again, I tell one of those customers
to go and stick it, and I've still gotthe other 99% of my customers left.
But if I do that in the normalway of things, I am cutting
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off the only income I have.
So being self-employed can bespreading your risk against which
neurotypical person doesn't likethe way that you deal with them.
Got some more comments.
Coming in from Facebook, grsays, another thing with a
big company is reorganization.
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Ordinance survey did this every 18 monthsand we had to reapply for our jobs.
I stopped doing that.
No one applied for my job,so it stayed the same.
And then Kathy says, I do want to work.
I love what I do.
It is the systems thatcreate the barriers for me.
Numbers.
I am pretty good with technology,but trying to navigate
government websites breaks me.
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I get locked out all the time and youcan't even get a phone number anymore.
Nobody will help you.
. The next post is from AutisticJazzy, which is a personal blog.
Hi, I am Jazzy.
I have level two autistic andsevere A DHD and mental health.
I am really happy most ofthe time, but not always.
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And what they shared is a quotewhich says, autistic don't end at 21.
I was diagnosed at 53 and I'venot really had much support.
And I think it's because it's, if youmanage to make 53 years without any
support that you're gonna be okay.
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Yeah.
It seems to be thatkinda attitude out there.
All although it's not just that, it'sjust lack of services for anything,
and that's just one of the ones thatthey never got round to because what
we've discussed and what's been sharedmany times from us and on Facebook.
Is a lot of autisticservices, autistic support.
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A lot of discussion is around childrenand how vulnerable children are and , how
the support needs to be there forchildren, particularly not just
school, but that's a big factor.
But in the home, in society.
When you get to a certainage, sometimes 18,
something's 21.
Sometimes a lot older than that.
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As you've just said, gi,it's like you're an adult and
there never seems tobe anything available.
Sometimes not even a simple supportmechanism is information somewhere
to guide you, and that's such aproblem because a lot of people
will be identified, diagnosedbecause of the way it comes about.
There's people that I'm aware of that findout they're autistic because they have
children and one of their children or all
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of their
children are autistic and they kindaresearch to see where it came from.
So yeah, so I totally getthat quote and what it means.
Very simplistic, but very true.
I have a slightly different takehere because here at Autistic Radio,
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we come across a lot of people whoare late diagnosed like myself.
And the reason that they are latediagnosed or late identified is because
they've come to a point in life wherethey're not okay, and the identification
is something that leads them to abetter place where they become okay.
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So I would be concerned if wesend out a message saying that.
Struggling and struggling to the endof your life without coming to terms
with the knowledge of your own autisticis the best situation, and because
you've managed so far, you can cope.
I would say the reality is that formany of us, finding out our diagnosis
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late in life or identity late inlife is necessary and a release and.
Also, I would say stealth identity.
Finding your own kin, findingautistic people to get alongside
that is perfectly good.
Diagnosis is not necessary.
The medics try to say thatit has to be a diagnosis.
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Well, no, you are in control ofyour own life and understanding
your own self comes from you.
So self-diagnosis is accepted in all good.
Autistic spaces.
There's some comments.
Kathy says, . Our major websites arenot even compliant for accessibility.
And then someone said, I thinkif we have a critique of the
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system, then that is our job.
And Kathy says, a hundred percent,especially with the financial barriers,
it is thousands of dollars here.
The next post is fromHalen Autistic Realms.
What they've shared is, for toolong, autism has been explained.
From the outside, it's time to tellour own stories and embrace monism.
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Explore our map of mon
Experie reopen source training andcollaborations with punks, and there's a
link to a newsletter . There's a link to.
What the training says, map with tropicexperiences reframing autism through
a neurodiversity affirming lens,and it's created by Helen Edgar at
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Autistic Realms and Ryan Borin, NoraHobbes and Chelsea Adams of STEM Punks.
Free training for professionals,families, and community groups
to support autistic people and.
The introduction of this, it saysthat at Autistic realms and STEM
pumps, we believe in telling our ownstories and validating each other.
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Experie.
The map of modern tropic species are acollaborative project by Helen Edgar,
Autistic Realms and Stem Pumps Foundation.
Ryan Boen, Nora Hobbes, and Chelsea Adams.
Created by and for autistic people.
I created the original map in 2024 as a
reflection of my ownmono tropic experiences.
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This was inspired by GemmaCorals, a map of procrastination.
We have developed this further andare offering a space for everyone to
reflect on their authentic identity as
Autistic and A DHD people, and discoverhow embracing the theory or mantra may
help develop a stronger understandingof identity and support wellbeing.
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I was reading about the other night.
Is this an extension of the previousdiscussion about self-employment?
To a certain extent.
You know, there's people in thecommunity who are becoming employed as.
Training resources.
'cause I read further into it,there are fees, although most of
it is free, I think to begin with.
And I kinda like these people some.
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Well, yeah, there's a lot of thingsI've been consuming since I got my
diagnosis and, these people were partof it, but you know, it's very fluid,
. It says that reframing in deficientmodels of autism and valuing autistic
lived experience, it says our traininghelps to reframe how we understand
ourselves and autistic people, notthrough the deficit focused lens
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of traditional autism research, butthrough lived experience and voices.
Open source training offersa radical affirming reframe
of autism ground in the theory ofmonoism, a way of understanding the
deep focused attention patterns commonamongst autistic and A DHD individuals.
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Rather than seeing autistictraits as deficits, monoism
recognize our tropic interest.
Space nervous system is a natural andmeaningful way of engaging with the world.
At the heart of our work is theimportance of embracing authentic
Autistic identity, not as somethingbroken or needing correction, but as
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a valuable and vibrant way of being.
Building strong communityconnections and validating lived
species, a central part to this.
You'll learn to understand e theoryof monism and importance of flow.
Recognize how environmentscan create stuck states.
Explore the detrimental impact ofneuronal domination on Autistic wellbeing.
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Create flow supportive environmentswhere all minds can thrive.
Understand intersectionalityand the double empathy
problem for deeper inclusion.
Celebrate authentic Autistic identityand the strength of community
storytelling and shared experiences.
Say it's better for schools,healthcare settings, workplaces
and community networks, and acreative tool for reflection,
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correction, and meaningful change.
The training content is approximately4,000 words designed to cover around
45 minutes of presentation time.
Delivered live is a workshop with spacefor discussion and question answers.
It typically runs for one to twohours and can be expanded into
a full day session if referred.
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I have a lot of positives to say.
I am quite happy for autistic people tobe the professionals out there who are
getting paid to present about autism.
I'm very happy that they describeit as a explanation from us rather
than for us and on our behalf.
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So coming directly from autisticpeople, the only caveat I have is
I don't understand mono tropismand I'm not willing to pay for
somebody to explain it to me.
What I would be interestedin is somebody to.
Bring some kind of knowledge ofmono tropism here to autistic radio.
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Discuss it with us, make a podcast with usso that it then encourages their business.
So far, the people haveexplained mono tropism to me,
or the explanations I've seen.
They look very much like a b,a based medical model based.
Slurs on the autistic identity.
They don't feel life affirmingfor me, but I want to be educated.
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So if somebody is willing to comeand explain it to autistic radio
and encourage the world to see howit works through their eyes, I'm
really happy to facilitate that.
I'm certainly always up for stuffthat's more positive minded.
And more inclusive mindedthan it's been done before.
Because although the sharing negativeexperiences as important, it's always
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also important to be authentic andas positive as possible, as well
give people hope, especially ifthey're going through a hard time.
They don't want the people to
feel that.
All these stories, allthese kinda really toughs.
Experiences, people are sharing that'sall they've got to look forward to.
It's like to encourage people to likethemselves, because there's a lot of
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people that are autistic , that have beenmade to feel inferior, and that's a hard
thing to shape off and someone else hasbeen doing that for a long time to you,
especially if it's authority figures.
And sometimes unfortunately it can
be family.
There's a comment coming fromKathy saying, Dr. Wen Lawson
has a load of free resources.
I get to work with themevery now and then.
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Well, Kathy, I'm confused about monotropism, some of the people who've
described it to me, it looks a bit culty.
It looks a bit like somebody is forcinga metaphor on the rest of the community.
And I need somebody to come and speakto me and explain it in a way that
I can understand and get behind it.
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At the moment, it looks verynegative to me, so I need somebody
to come forward, and if you canencourage that would be brilliant.
The next post is from artists andAutism and Friends, which is an
arts and humanities website sharingof art and encouraging the artists
who are on the autism spectrum andothers who are differently abled.
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And what
they shared is a picture of dandelions.
What it says is the dandelions havegone to seed really early this year
as Rose Morrison has illustratedso beautifully with alcohol links.
Was also recently featured in a newsarticle, linked in the comments,
and it wasn't in the comments'cause I shared it, but it's
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an article's talking about anexhibition in the United States and
it's an artist with a vision loss.
But the reason they shared that is'cause artists and autism and friends,
and I'm aware that many people.
A lot of autistic people, if notall, have a special interest.
And it's usually something like, itcan be music, it can be writing, it
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can be art, and we share a lot of thesetypes of pages and groups on the page
just to demonstrate that, especiallyvery talented people and it's nice
pictures has been shown on the page.
. I
think this is brilliant.
Harry.
Thanks for the link.
I've just been reading the thing in thecomments about the vision loss techniques
used by the sars, so that idea of beingable to still do things you want to do,
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that you like doing, even if your sensesare beginning to fade, would normally
make you think you couldn't do it anymore.
But there are ways and it'svery intriguing and I need
to get some depth of thought.
I just want you to comment on themention of like this, these alcohol pens.
My daughter got some, and they'reabsolutely lovely to work with.
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Like if you're coloring in withthem, and you go over the same spot.
The color doesn't get any denser, soyou get a really lovely flat wash.
They're really satisfying and theyblend really well and I saw some in,
like, I saw some in Aldi for very cheapcompared to what I'd seen them on online.
The next post is from Sens Station,which is a product and service, and
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sometimes learning is simply better
online.
S. A great destination and whatthey're promoting is a session
called Transform Early Communicationthrough Music and Autistic Expertise.
And what it says, do you work withor care for a child who is nonverbal
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or developing communication skills,this interactive training session.
We'll show you how musicalcommunication can open doors to
impactful learning and connection.
What you'll gain is insights intoautistic profiles and early communication
challenges, practical strategiesusing musical communication to enhance
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engagement and real world techniques toapply immediately at school and home.
It's led by Nicola Duran, autisticspecialist, teacher and consultant.
This session combines expertise,actionable advice, and imitative
approaches to help children thrive.
So what's included is a summaryhandout with key strategies, a
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certificate of attendance to markyour learning milestone, all for
just 12 pounds, 95 pounds perdelegate, plus booking fee in VAT.
The spaces are fillingfast, so don't miss out.
And you can reserve a spot throughEventbrite, which has the link below.
Most people have neverheard of this before,
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not specifically in this context,Harry, but music therapies
pretty much a mainstay, isn't it?
It does look like quite a goodthing, depending how it's done.
'cause music is a big thing.
Music is a great way of includingpeople, but it just depends how they do
it and how they talk about, I suppose.
It's some completely new to me
If you look at the actual bookingpage, it's aimed at some kids that
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are nonverbal and the parents are notgetting a good sense of communication.
It's a tool music.
I'm guessing that the experience.
Is going to be a positive experienceand with the people it's aimed at,
I think we can forget all of thetropes about whether the kids are
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being included and things like that.
You know, it's a basic thing thatyoung children benefit from rhythm and
the experience of being in a group.
And if we get some encouragement.
For any of the people listed useful,it says for parents, teachers, and
learning support assistants to beplayful and musical with their kids
(29:45):
rather than this carrot and stick a,b, a, sit down for hours and hours
and learn these separate things.
It looks like a positive experience to me.
Well, thanks.
Discussion tonight.
It was, really enjoyable.
Again,
so this is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 4th of May, 2025.
Which is part of the 5 55spiritual VO conversation, which
(30:10):
is here every Sunday, UK time.
So thank you once again.
I and now pass over to Jules.
That's great, Harry, as always,thank you from everybody here
for putting the work you do into.
Sharing these posts, finding theseposts, and creating that autistic radio
com Facebook page, which is part ofsocial media, but a safe space to go to.
(30:35):
I don't look at anywhere elseexcept your Facebook page.
At this point in the show, we talk alittle bit about autistic association,
which supports autistic radio andthe activities of autistic radio.
We're presenting at an upcomingconference for the professionals who
(30:56):
are trying to reduce the amount ofrestraint that's used on autistic people
and people with learning disabilitiesand other people who are under the
care of professionals in institutions.
So we will be presenting the autisticradio model there in a couple of weeks.
It has an association with a b, A as well.
(31:18):
So we are hoping that if we keep adialogue going with a b, a practitioners
here in the uk, it's possible that it willhave a small amount of influence on them.
We also have podcasts that we develop.
Very soon.
We have a podcast, whichis an introduction to.
GR Robertson, who, when you hearit, you will be quite amazed at
(31:41):
the autistic person who found outabout them themselves later in life.
And they're also their, backgroundin music, working with the Rolling
Stones and other different artists.
I have a podcast coming up to record witha lady who commented on our social media.
Asking why the autistic communitydoes not seem to be standing up for
(32:06):
the Jewish community and showing somedisappointment in the autistic community.
I found that confusing, so I'm hoping tohave a good conversation with her and put
that out as a podcast and also in edit.
At the moment, we have a podcast withthe two professionals who discussed
the difference between a, B, a.
And floor time.
(32:27):
So an alternative to a b, a two parents,two educationalists, two doctors
speaking together through autistic radio.
I found that conversationvery enlightening.
So I hope when the podcast gets outthere, you'll find that enlightening too.
So thank you to Autistic Association,the charity created by autistic
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people to support autistic radio.
And thank you to everybody else outthere who is either listening to
us or willing to take part with us.
If you are somebody who's willingto take part, get in contact.
There's always space for you.
Autistic radio is about us.
It's for us, and it's from us.
Autistic Radio is about you.
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It's for you, and it can be from you.
We have every single Sunday dropin four, four 4:00 PM every Sunday.
That's not live.
That's us getting together,us talking community.
Every Sunday, Harry leads a fivefive 5:00 PM a discussion around
the Facebook page that he creates.
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Involve yourself by suggestingwhat we should talk about next.
Share it with Harry and.
The bigger picture, advocate, use us.
Speak to the world, your project,your idea, your enthusiasm.
We have a whole range of differentprograms that will fit what you want.
As far as listening goes, there'ssome challenging stuff out there.
(33:51):
Because amongst the identity, theentertainment, and the community,
we also make serious programs withautism professionals challenging
their ideas and bringing whatyou say in other spaces to them.
A lot of those are difficult listens,but it's a holistic gathering.
It comes all together.
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Autistic radio is very varied.
We need a favor to encourage us.
We need you to share us.
When you share us.
You give autistic people power.
When you share us, you makeus impossible to ignore.
When you repost on LinkedIn and Facebookand anywhere else, you are advocating
(34:34):
for everybody in the autistic community.
So pick the things that you arehappy with and get them out there.
So thank you, thank you, thankyou, thank you from all of us.
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