555PM Sundays Live Harrys Spectrum Voices Autism Podcast Autistic Radio 2025May11

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Jules-AutisticRadio.com (00:02):
We speak our words, we listen,
we speak our words, we listen.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: We speak our words. (00:08):
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We listen.
We speak our words.
We listen.
Good evening everyone.
This is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 11th of May, 2025,
and it is also Mother's Day.
Which is currently celebrated inthe us, Australia, Italy, Denmark,
Switzerland, and many other countries.
The UK where we are based has Mother's Dayin March, but to fit the theme of being

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Mother's Day elsewhere, the first postis from Autistic Typing was a community.
Startup Island in caregiver andcare worker, writer, speaker, and
advocate, and it basically says,happy Mother's Day to autistic

moms.
Happy Mother's Day to autistic momsand to autism moms, and to the moms who
are not autistic themselves, who arecaring for their own loved children.
The next post

Harry-Autistic-Association.org (01:02):
is from,
which is a. I'm a late diagnosed50 something autistic women in
the UK hoping to help to create asupportive community where we can
share our thoughts and experiences.
Jeff, the cat, NorthernLights, nature, and the sky.
Glamors, memes, loss, love.
She, her, and what sheshared as a following.

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My page is mainly based around beingautistic and is neuro affirming.
This means that I don't seeautism as something which
needs to be cured or fixed.
Therefore, any content I createwill reflect my own personal views
and beliefs, including the languageI use and the images I create.

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I don't always get it right.
Why I am learning.
Of course I don't speak for all autisticpeople, and you are absolutely welcome
here if you have different views.
To me, I believe everyone'sentitled to identify who they wish.
However, that doesn't mean it's okayto expect me to create content, which
goes against my own personal viewpoints.

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Anyone who believes that being autisticis a deficit or feel that is a disorder.
It's more than welcome to create their owncontent, but I won't be doing that here.

GR-Gary-AutisticRadio.com: Your page, your rules. (02:21):
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And, if you don't like the people whoare posting, then you just get rid of
them on Facebook to make it feel safe for

you.
Totally agree with
that and that's what'sgood about Facebook.
But all the Ls and all the thingsthat you can talk about, social media
in general and Facebook itself andthe dangers and the things that are
said and the heart, it can cause.
There is mechanisms where you can.
Pick and choose on whatyou see on your own feed.
And that's what, as Joe's has explainedmany times, elsewhere, is autistic radio.

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Facebook page tries tokinda collate safer.
, . Some will be controversial to certainpeople 'cause everyone's different.
But it's good that as a mechanismthere that you can choose what to
see and what to say or what to read.
But I think what's important about thatpost, it's saying, don't come to me
and tell me what to say to suit you.

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'cause Autistic radiohave had that in the past.
It's actually people telling us
what to share and what not to sharebecause they believe that us sharing
a particular thing from a particularperson is offensive to that individual
for all many different reasons.
So it's good that people put thesekind of posts out there as like,

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you don't have to read what I put.
You can unfollow me and it also says thatyou within your rights to put what you've
put on your own page for your own views.
But don't tell me what to say and Iwill not tell you what to say either.
That's sort of respect.
Sometimes that can be quite touchy fora lot of people to read and do, but.

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It's the only way

Ray-AutisticRadio.com (04:01):
forward I think.
Yeah, in about 16 years of using Facebook,I have never really set posts as public.
You know, that we symbolthere by the date.
It's like a world, a globeof the world in public.
That means it's global, isn't it?
Everyone's getting it unless you gointo your settings and restrict it.
So.

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Unless you're some kindaorganization with global reach.
This is just the way I think.
Why would you go global?
Unless you're wanting attention, you'rewanting feedback and interaction at that
point, then I suppose you're in assertwhat you like and what you don't like.
, But as a person on there nowsometimes put up opinions and

(04:42):
opinionated pieces over the years.
I would never dare to share them globally,so I keep it within a kinda smallish
community that evolved over those years.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: Just to add to the post (04:53):
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that's already been shared.
To illustrate this point, they're makingimagine a content creator who's posting
about their cat and all the wonderfulthings they love about their cat.
Then be constantly questioned onwhy they love their cat and be
told, surely if they're posting

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about cats.
Not everyone loves cats, andthey should post about dogs too,
because some people prefer them.
Although known internet these days,it probably actually does happen.
I don't speak for all autistic people.
Of course I don't, but I mayContent based on my beliefs.
I won't tell anyone how they shouldidentify, but that works both ways.

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Please don't tell mehow to identify either.
Absolutely do not expect me to makecontent, which isn't Euro affirming or
goes directly against my own beliefs.
I

don't think you can control the world, and so you're
going to get drama and you know, whetheryou like drama or not is up to you.
Paul Jeffrey,

Jules-AutisticRadio.com: here, neurodivergent advocate, (05:57):
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open source, truth teller.
Coherent strategist.
Grateful to be in the room with you.
Appreciating the space to speakwith and as a community, not
about fixing, about resonating.
Just joined beautiful to see Autisticvoices driving the narrative in real time.

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So thank you, Paul.
That's very, affirming of you.
And yes, we are always here.
Always here on a Sundayat this time of day.
Now in regards to the post, Paul says,filtering content isn't about censorship.
It's about the clarity of the intention.
A lot of what causes offenseon both sides isn't malice.

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It's just misattunement.
People argue over who's right when really.
They both are.
They're just writing different frameworks.
Those frameworks are shapedby their trauma or their
culture or their neurotype.
If you slow it down and zoom outto get more of a perspective,
you realize it's not a battle.

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It's a misaligned frequency clash.
A making peace between differentpoints of view is not weakness.
It's recognition that we are allprojecting from our own signal maps
and choosing our own intentions.
So Paul is putting the point outthere that talking about things,
even if we start from differentstandpoints, is the process that we're

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aiming for, whether that be throughFacebook or here at Autistic Radio.
And I suppose what Spectrum Sloth is doingis they are trying to say to people, look,
just let me put what I feel out there.
Don't expect me to represent exactlywhat you are wanting to put out there.
You put it out yourself.
So that seems fine to me.

(07:46):
Yes, I agree with that.
Thanks very

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: much, Paul. (07:47):
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,The next post is from Steven's Life on the Spectrum.
A blogger, come and look throughmy world with mild autism SPD
and fetal alcohol spectrum.
Steven has shared a quote within apicture of goldfish and there's a number
of orange goldfish going to the leftwith one blue goldfish going to the

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right, and the quote has been shared.
Is the thing about beingdifferent is that it takes

courage.
, It's about the framework, isn't it?
If you feel that expressing yourdifference puts you in a position
of risk,, then you have to takecourage to overcome those fears.
Having courage is aboutdealing with fear, isn't it?

(08:39):
, I'm very different to the peoplearound me in my small town, but
at my ripe old age of nearly 60,it no longer feels courageous to
just be myself and be unmasked.
It feels just normal, and I hopethat more people who experience their

(09:02):
autism come to understand their autism.
Get to be in positions.
The fortunate position whereyou do not feel that you have
to have courage to be different.
You just feel as though you beingdifferent is a joyful expression of you.
I really hope thathappens for any listener.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: The picture itself of the fish. (09:20):
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Kinda reminds me of school, mainstreamschool and the majority of the fish
going one way is everybody else.
Well, , the fish going theother way is me, because
that's how I felt at that time.
Long before, , being diagnosed oridentified as autistic, I felt even at

(09:41):
that age, you know, about five years old.
It's like there's a certain schedulehere to keep, which in the long run
actually suited me because it suits manyautistics, if not all do I say if it
does, all because everybody's different.
But it suited me, but alwaysfelt out the loop in some way.
And I always felt thatI was the odd one out.

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You know, even early on, even standingoutside the, in the, the queue of
kind of school children waitingto go inside the door for class.
So that's what it reminds meof, and I do understand it says
there, it takes courage, you know?
To be different, but at the time,being different was looked upon
as raw, and that's what makes itdifficult for a lot of people.

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But as you've said Jules, about,it's good that there's many
examples of people being different,but it's a positive way forward.
It's not about being courageous, it's notabout being brave, it was about being you.
And that's happened in manytimes in my life as well.
Long after diagnosis, identification.
And I'm like that actually now inmany ways, depending on it, of course.

(10:49):
, That's a sort of, I'm differentand, unique and I've got an identity
and I've got an individual sort ofcharacteristic that I generally.
Do love, although there has been timeswhere I've disliked or even hated it one
time, but I do love it now because it'syou being a good person, good intention.
So I was thinking, trying tocommit, be positive, try to

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be nice to friendly people.
It's not always easy, but et cetera.
I like myself and that took a long time todo, but for many people it does feel that.
It does take courage to do andfeel what your individual is, but.
Yes, both things are said,identifies what it's all about.
Comments shared on text.
Even when I tried tomask, I did not fit in.

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When I
first unmasked, I took courage andnow I realize I have nothing to lose.

Nicola-AutisticRadio.com (11:39):
I can really relate to that comment.
And I would say it'sstill like pretty active.
The process is prettyactive for me just now.
Like I'm part of a kinda fairly newto me circle and I'm . Committed to
myself not to mask and to try andbe authentic so it can be like a

(12:00):
sustainable, like real world connection.
And it's been really, really daunting.
, The process of that, like feelinglike I'm rejecting people at times.
, You know, and having to do alot of adjusting the way that
I'm talking to myself because.
The kinda condition into expectpunishment, is deeply ingrained

Ray-AutisticRadio.com: or criticism, I suppose. (12:20):
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Yeah,

no, I mean, like punishment, like not criticism,
like, , going back to childhood andstuff, I'm really feeling the effects
of that and, you know, having topush past the, like, you know, , that
conditioning from when I was young,

Ray-AutisticRadio.com: I empathize with that. (12:36):
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Yeah, I was just thinkingpersonally, it's almost like.
Criticism as much aspunishment can be traumatic.
Yeah,

definitely.
It just adds more and more layers.
And , a few years before I
was really understanding my autism, Iwas really, really kind of struggling
with the confusion of why, no matterwhat I did, like it never seemed to work.
I was like, what is wrong with me wasthe question I kept asking myself.

(13:05):
, And it was like criticisms couldbe stuff even just like, why do
you always have to be different?
And it was like, I'm not trying to do it.
I'm trying to fit in.

I think the ultimate mask for me was that I didn't
care what people thought or said, but Idon't think that was entirely accurate.
So that opens up a car of worms.

Jules-AutisticRadio.com: It does rhyme and. (13:27):
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It's a balance, isn't it?
I don't know.
I talked to you once and Idon't know if I told you this.
, I was interacting with a neighbor atmy mansion and somebody witnessed me
speaking with my neighbor about whateverit was that the neighbor wanted.
And as far as I was concerned,I was getting on perfectly

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fine with this neighbor.
We cooperated on lots of things, didwork together, dealing with the drive
and the water supply and these things.
The person who witnessed me talkingwith my neighbor after he'd come to
chat and talk to me about something,he looked me in the eyes and he
says, you don't give a fuck whetherpeople like you or not, do you?
You don't care what people think of you.

(14:09):
And my memory of this was that theperson was both half admiring and
half surprised and half condemning me.
Three halves, one 150%.
And strikes me that one of our reactionsoften to dealing with life is to say

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that take it or leave it and push our ownway forward, wherever that may lead us.
And that has lots of negatives, lotsof positives, but it's always about.
The context in which it happensand the power structure.
And I had to think, no, I don'tactually care what that person

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thinks of me in the round.
What I care about is that the thing thatgets negotiated gets negotiated properly.
And as I went forward, , we continuedto work together and negotiate.
And when my house burnt down, theywere one of the people that helped me.

In the text, someone says that, to add to what
they said earlier on, I realize I wasthe person that I was trying to be.
Rather than getting people tolike me, I reframe rejection
as they did not really like me.
I now choose to only go toplaces where I am accepted as I.

(15:32):
Adds to what we're talking about.
About liking yourself and feelingcomfortable being yourself after
masking or suppressing for so longto try and fit in with other people's

expectations.
I get where the person'scoming from in those texts.
, And I get the affirmation insaying, I choose only go to
places where I'm accepted as I am.
You know?
But I also get concerned thathowever old you are, you still need.
More opportunities to be provedthat everything you've experienced

(16:09):
so far isn't the only way forward.
I don't give up even though I'mnearly 60 at being surprised
at people who might accept me.
So I still think pushing forward and goingout to places and going into different.
Social situations is worth itbecause you will one in a hundred

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times pick up a relationship or afriendship or an acquaintance or
just even a tiny bit of nice time.
And it's very easy to close downyour world and retract and hide, and
that can come with serious problems.
So I've got two feelingsabout those texts.

Robbie (16:53):
I don't hide.
I've just learnt the kindof events that work for me.
I need the common ground, like commoninterests and I've learned that the sort
of places where you've got the run byneurotypical people that expect you to
fit in with, , your typical expectations.

(17:17):
I've tried.
IBM kicked out of a number of placesthrough having autistic meltdowns.
When I become overwhelmed andI know what kind of things I
face in these sort environments.
So I don't avoid all other places.
I just carefully look round.
Is it the kind ofenvironment, is it gonna work?

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And I'm usually pretty much right.
I will go places I thinkmight work a couple of times.
Perhaps that's four times.
And I'll know through the behavior ofthe people around me what is gonna work.
What isn't gonna work, but I do know alot of the organizations like the mental
health charities are that it just doesn'twork because they've got a safeguarding

(18:05):
policy in place that it just toxic.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: The next post is from thanking (18:09):
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persons GED to autism.
Which is a community organization, autisminfo for autistic professionals and
parents expect signs and SAS news andarticles at the Link website available.
And what it talks about is the following.

(18:31):
It's a quote, and it says, people mayassume that anyone who claims to advocate
for autistic people must be a good person.
This is often not true.

I've got a complex PTSD, so straight away, that's
like making me go, oh no, but no,seriously, , i think it's important
to always have a wee kind of likesafeguarding voice in your back of
your head with things like this andtake things with a pinch of salt.

Yeah.
Care can be a vulnerable situation.

I think the point as well is people have
different expectations ofwhat advocacy actually is.
Is it someone representing, is it someone.
You know, taking over or justsomeone saying something and they
saying that they're advocating.
I

Robbie (19:28):
think that's maybe what the quote is referring to.
I think it oversimplifies thingsbecause people can do not very good
things with the best of intentionwhen they don't understand.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: That's very true, Robbie. (19:37):
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, That happens quite a lot.
There's great intentions out there.
Lack of understanding maycause more harm than good.

GR-Gary-AutisticRadio.com (19:48):
People have been saying that I'm an autism
advocate and I don't like it at allbecause I just feel that I'm someone
who has autism, who can vocalize it.
And I don't think I'm representativeof all people with autism.
, I'm just a person withautism who's a bit vocal.

I think that is the definition of an advocate.
, There gr , , if you are speakingout to explain to the world in any
way an autistic experience, even ifit's just your own personal autistic
experience, you are advocatingin some way, shape, or form.
It's not necessary for us to.

(20:29):
Have a whole platform just speakingto somebody on the bus and getting a
positive feeling about them and thensaying, you are autistic is an advocacy.
Because that person then goes awaywith the idea that, oh, I thought
all autistic people couldn't speak.
Or I thought all autistic peoplewere rude and dysfunctional.

(20:51):
And that person I met in thebuff was a nice, pleasant fellow.
And then they said they were autistic.
It's such a wide spectrum of advocacyin the same way it's a wide, , group of
people that create the autistic community.
So, you know, feel good about being anadvocate , is what I would hope for you.

Robbie (21:11):
People need to see a wide spectrum experience to realize
that we are not all the same.
The more people see different experiences,the more they're likely to realize that.
We are not all the same.
I sort still

don't feel comfortable with that as a title for me.
I was talking to, believe it ornot, the guy in the chip shop
yesterday, 'cause he's got a coupleof nephews who are on the spectrum.
And I said,, I was doing thesepodcasts and I said, I felt a little
bit out of my depth on some ofthe questions you've been asking.
And the guy in the chip shopsays, well, you are an expert.
And I'm not really, I'm just me.

(21:45):
I think.
You are an expert on your own experience.
Yeah, on my own experience.
, But I like to think like when I did, the things that I've done I don't like
to think it's about me, but about us.
Going

back to the post, there's something in the post
that we're skirting around, , and that'sthat there are people who claim to
advocate for autistic people and thatoften gives them some kind of cache,
some kind of good feeling becausethere's an assumption that somebody

(22:18):
speaking up for a disabled group has.
The best interests of thatdisabled group at their heart.
And I have to say that I have comeacross people, professional people
often, and I do not feel that they areadvocating and that they have the autistic

(22:40):
populations best interest at heart.
I have come across professionals who.
Are piggybacking on the autisticcommunity to create for themselves
a dubious career, and it's not okay.
So people do have to be skeptical abouteverything that is supposedly advocating.

(23:04):
I would also like to point out thatthere are now autistic people who have
created their own businesses, that not allautistic people feel represent very well.
The autistic experience lessso, and I would always choose an
autistic person over a non-autisticperson as far as advocacy goes,
but we do have to be careful.

(23:26):
Of about who is representing us.
So the more we represent ourselves,the more we can push out the
bad by replacing with the good.
We can't take the bad away, but we canpush out the good to water it down.

Yeah.
It's amazingly easy to be verytrusting at the beginning,
you know, or post-diagnosis,let's say, or post definition.
You get introduced to people ingroups who are there to assist you.
And I'm just reflecting back onhow trusting I was just like,
these people are here to help.
No problem.

(24:01):
I was kinda lucky that they didn'treally let me down in any great way.
Maybe time-wise, maybe delays, butyeah, you balance that out with a
wee bit of like humility and saylike, you know, they've got a lot on.
But, , yeah, it's amazing tothink how trusting you can be.
It is a vulnerable situation.
The next post.

Is from Autistic Baker who is a blogger and
they've shared the post of a skeleton,, sitting in grass with the flowers,
et cetera, and basically it's a quotesaying, I am out of the loop on purpose.
Do not loop me in.

It feels like another example of a different
kind of boundary, doesn't it?
Like the sense of like, no, Idon't wanna think about this,
I don't wanna talk about it.
I'm keeping my energy for something else.
And I think that there's times whereyou know, like you have to just focus
on what you actually can change and.
Shut out some of the noise in theworld that can otherwise just have you

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absolutely terrified, agitated, or evenjust like angry, like sometimes like I've
caught myself like following certain newsstories because I'm kind of like almost
hooked on being that bit angry about it.
And, , I do do an awfullot better when I like.
Have boundaries with myself and be like,

no.
Yeah.
, The news thing is, what I identify withit in some ways is because the news is
the news and mainstream news anyway.
It's usually bad news andit's usually devastating news.
It's usually news.
It's really impactful, negatively,as we all know, and sometimes.

(25:41):
You can get hooked on it because youwanna hear the update, although what
you are getting is just the nextpart they're wanting to give you.
So I've made it , my mission , thelast 10, 20 years or so of not
watching the US bulletins andnot paying too much attention to.
News items that come up in my feed.

(26:01):
Sometimes I'll look into one or two thingsthat may show an interest, but if it
goes into big debates and things, I just,, look to shut that off unless it's, you
know, worthwhile and generally it's not.
'cause a lot of it justseems to be dividing people.
It's not a nice thing to see, and itjust really, when from the human side
of things, it just really upsets me.

(26:23):
So I keep myself out the loopfrom that, because I feel
that's the way to be healthy.
I

recall after nine 11 that was this,
, rolling news thing came in.
It may have been in well beforethat, maybe even back at the first
Gulf War, but definitely after cablebecame a huge thing for everyone.
I. Then this rolling news seemed like,oh man, there's so much news going on.
It never stops.
It's constant.

(26:48):
But what it was was a loop.
It was like they repeated thesame thing over and over again,
and it became really weird.
It's like you think, oh, there'smore happening from that.
No, it's the same thing I'vejust seen five minutes ago,
and, oh, here it comes again.
And it's very much like that.
Now, on the occasions that I do slipinto watching something like that.
I just go, oh , yeah.
They're still up to it.

(27:09):
And it's extended to social mediawith your, , reels and things, which
are just like constant scroll bait.
The next post

is from Diversity Kids, which is a community,
and it has programs, tips, strategies,resources, support, coaching and
training around inclusion and diversityin children's services and indication.
A one-stop shop for all your culturaland bilingual inclusion support
needs and based in Australia.

(27:40):
And what they've shared is a quoteand it says it's about inclusion.
And it says, inclusion is when nochild has to worry about belonging.

My initial responses are quite like how these
strains are still a certain wordslike inclusion and diversity.
Rather than, you know, othermore dominant words over here,

Robbie (28:01):
I would say also applies to adults.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: Yes, I would agree. (28:04):
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Robbie.
I find that word belonging very strong.
No, inclusion is good, but belongingsounds so much more powerful because
there's been many situations where.
I felt like an outsider for so longfrom so many places where I wanted
to feel included or be includedwithin, but then feeling that you've

(28:27):
got a sense of belonging somewhereand it just feels so fantastic.
This feels great.
And Autistic radio is one of them.
It's like, you know, the way we'retalking just now and just talking about
different experiences around the sametopic, it just feels like I belong here.
I feel comfortable with my voicekinda rabbiting on about my

(28:48):
own views and different things.
And belonging is a big deal and I'vedone the same many different things
like falling a certain football club.
. Join different kind of groups,et cetera, in the past.
, Robbie: Belonging is a big, big part of where I choose to socialize.
'cause most of the placesI go are a long way away.
Mostly it's about the common interests.

(29:10):
And one of the thing whenI , lost my parents, I realized.
Home was not just a place,it was about belonging.
And without my family, I didn't belong.

I've lived in the same house my entire life.
, when my mother passed away, my fatherpassed away, many years before.
But when my mother passed away, thecouncil said I had to pee out in a month.
And I thought to stay in, in this house.
But this was the foundation.
, Without this, I wouldn't havecoped with, with the changes that
losing my mother was a big change.

(29:40):
But if I'd lost my home aswell, I wouldn't have coped
with, , going forwards.

Yeah, gi it's a very strong thing.
I'm in the house, I was born and i'vebeen away different places for periods
of time and decades, but I'm back herenow and home is a huge word, , roots,
that kind of feeling of groundedness.
, Some of us are moresensitive to than others.
I'm not saying that in any specialway, I just mean folk are got

(30:08):
their own sensitivities for variousaspects of their lives, but for
some folk, home is everything.
In a sense it all grows fromthere and without that, yeah,
it's , really disturbing.
Well,

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: thanks everybody. (30:20):
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Discussion tonight.
Thanks to everyone who posted, , thosesubjects on Facebook for us to share.
This is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 11th of May, 2025.
It's part of the 5 55 SpectrumVoices conversation broadcast
on Sundays, and we're here everySunday until 7:30 PM UK time.

(30:45):
So again, thank you for listeningand thank you for taking part.
And now I'll hand over

to Jules.
Thank you, Harry.
, It's always fascinating to hear somany different ideas and thoughts that
you stimulate with what you share onthe Facebook page of autistic radio.
Now it's time to think about what wedo here as the charity, the Autistic

(31:10):
Charity, autistic Association..and in two days time, we have a
rather large presentation to make.
We're going to bespeaking to a conference.
Which is for the behavioristgroup of professionals.
, We've been asked to go there andpresent what we do at autistic

(31:30):
radio and what we are doing with thebehaviorist community through autistic
radio is discussing behaviorism.
In relation to us in relation toour authentic selves in relation to
masking, and we are trying to havean input into the way they do things.

(31:52):
It's a rather ridiculous concept totake what we have, the audio model
here at Autistic Radio where we arecomfortable because we're not on
camera and we are able to speak.
. Put our words out, knowing thatthey will be edited carefully and
we will be represented well inthat edit, in that audio only edit.

(32:17):
It's ridiculous really to then take thatand say, we're gonna put it on stage.
In front of a whole group of peoplelive like a play or a performance,
and not only that, it will be recordedand then that recording will be like
a television program, so it destroysreally what we do here at Autistic Radio.

(32:39):
What we do here at Autistic Radio isabout having an appropriate format
so that we can not be as masked.
So we are not putting on a performance,but this is the invite we've got.
So on behalf of autistic radio,I will put on my mask of autistic
jewels and go out and stand thereand perform in front of them.

(33:03):
And I hope that I will also makethe point of how inappropriate most
of the forums are that give us theopportunity to speak because most of it.
My feeling feels very much weightedagainst the way that autistic
people would prefer to communicate.
Fortunately, I'm going tobe backed up on screen.

(33:25):
We're going to be able to show what we doon screen when we're recording, even if
it's just proving to them that we do it.
Without showing our camera faces and wedo it in audio only, that's enough of
a, that's enough of an image for themto take away with them to realize that
putting us on camera, putting us on thespot, putting us live is not the best

(33:47):
way to get authentic information from us.
Then I will be puttingthe challenge to them.
I will be saying, we as a group havearranged ourselves so that we know
that we can speak and we know we cancommunicate as equitably as possible
with a model that we have jointlycreated together over these years.

(34:09):
So the challenge to themis if we make that happen.
Will they come to us andspeak with us in that forum?
Because usually what they try todo, all of the professions in my
experience, is to make us performin their format, make us perform in
a committee or in a presentation.

(34:30):
So we'll see how thatworks over the years.
Autistic radio is about us.
It's for us, and it's from us.
Autistic Radio is about you.
It's for you, and it can be from you.
We have every single Sunday dropin four, four 4:00 PM every Sunday.

(34:51):
That's not live.
That's us getting together,us talking community.
Every Sunday, Harry leads a fivefive 5:00 PM a discussion around
the Facebook page that he creates.
Involve yourself by suggestingwhat we should talk about next.
Share it with Harry and.
The bigger picture, advocate, use us.

(35:13):
Speak to the world, your project,your idea, your enthusiasm.
We have a whole range of differentprograms that will fit what you want.
As far as listening goes, there'ssome challenging stuff out there.
Because amongst the identity, theentertainment, and the community,
we also make serious programs withautism professionals challenging

(35:37):
their ideas and bringing whatyou say in other spaces to them.
A lot of those are difficult listens,but it's a holistic gathering.
It comes all together.
Autistic radio is very varied.
We need a favor to encourage us.
We need you to share us.
When you share us.
You give autistic people power.

(35:59):
When you share us, you makeus impossible to ignore.
When you repost on LinkedIn and Facebookand anywhere else, you are advocating
for everybody in the autistic community.
So pick the things that you arehappy with and get them out there.
So thank you, thank you, thankyou, thank you from all of us.

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