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INTRO (00:00):
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Harry-Autistic-Association.org: Hello everyone. (00:52):
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This is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 30th of November, 2025.
St. Andrew's Day.
The first post, which is from AuroraConsulting, who are based in Scotland, a
disability service business consultant.
Aurora is an autistic ownedbusiness offering organization's
(01:12):
bespoke training and consulting,and I've shared the following.
This is a we story about autisticdetermination and how I learned
that I am in charge of me.
I'm sitting in my art class after lunch.
It's the 30th of November, 1992.
It's standard grade art and the lesstalented of is generally get left
(01:34):
to crack on with things, leaving alot of time for chat and relaxing.
A girl called Emma and i are talkingand the subject of vegetarians comes up.
I've been considering becoming vegetarianever since I heard it was even a thing.
Emma argues that vegetarianscan't be healthy.
I argue they could.
(01:56):
It's all friendly.
M and I are in good terms, andeventually one of us suggests a bet.
A bet.
I would be vegetarian for one month andwould see how healthy I was after that.
And that dear readers,is how I became veggie.
It was generally something Iwanted to do, but I had no idea
(02:17):
if I could make that decision.
I needed a push.
A reason to go ahead and a friendlybet was apparently the thing that would
make it so my family had no notice,but those of you who know me well
know I am nothing if not determined.
I'd made that bet I wasgoing to stick to it.
(02:38):
It didn't go down well.
The number of veggie optionsavailable in 1992 were nowhere as
near as plentiful as they are today.
I worked with my lovely homeeconomics teacher to make sure
I was getting enough nutrients.
My home EC teacher wasn't convincedof the wisdom of my actions either,
but she liked a challenge andwas keen to see how I'd get on.
(03:01):
Vegetarians in my wee townwere few and far between.
She hadn't taught many.
She even told me that if I wantedto pass home economics, I had
to cook some non veggie meals.
They sometimes got passed on tomy chemistry teacher as his was
the class after home Economic.
After the Christmas holidays, wedecided I'd won the bet and had
(03:23):
a good laugh and I decided I likebeing vegetarian, so never went back.
This is absolutely not opposed.
Encouraging others to become veggie too.
It's a completely personal choice andit's not going to be right for everyone.
I'm also one of those veggies whohappily prepares meat for other people.
This post is about autistic determination.
(03:46):
So many people telling me itwas a bad idea, so much pressure
to just buy the tuna sandwich.
I previously enjoyed so many peopletelling me I couldn't do it, so I
did, and that's how I learned that Iwas in charge of me, not anyone else.
I'm so grateful for Emmafor making that bet with me.
(04:06):
I don't think either of us knewhow life changing it would be.
And the picture of me is enjoyingsome Ethiopian veggie food last
year and thoroughly enjoying it.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (04:17):
I think my experience of autism is
different, but sharing somethingwhen I was very young, possibly 10.
I was exposed to farming and the marketwhere the animals were sold that would
then be eaten,, rabbits, chickens,turkeys, these kinds of things.
And the conditions that they were keptin when they were being sold at this
(04:41):
Saturday market, that made me inquireas a young autistic boy with all that
overwhelming smell around it about.
The meat and I decided tobecome vegetarian at 10 years
old, which was okay at home.
But then I went to boarding schooland the determination came in when I
(05:04):
was, , bullied because I was told bythe 18 year olds that, , the reason
that they weren't getting enough meator whatever in their diet was because
I had come as a vegetarian, so that.
I carried on for some time and I continuedto be vegetarian, being bullied about
(05:24):
it, but eventually it all stopped and Ihad stood up for myself, but I had come
to a slightly different feeling in my.
That it wasn't necessary to be vegetarian.
It was necessary to be kind to animalsand to reduce the amount of meat I
had in my diet and find other ways.
(05:44):
So for the rest of my life, I'venot been vegetarian, but I've been
a whole food diet person with lotsand lots of different types of food.
And, just sticking to somethingbecause you're told not to, I
think is one of the detriments.
That come with autism ratherthan one of our credits.
(06:05):
I understand what Aurora Consultingis saying about having the strength
to stick to our guns, but sometimes westick to our guns when the motivation
for sticking to our guns isn't logical.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (06:18):
It's an education, isn't it?
An education and lifestyle.
Options and choices.
You know, you can.
Do things when you're a teenager or ayoung person, then you'll change maybe
a decade later or five years later, oryou'll just continue with it because
, it stays with you and it's for you.
, But exploration and self-determination,which I think is a theme of this post
(06:41):
is, something worth, considering, youknow, 'cause very often we get caught
in, , the trap of, expectations and,
normativity.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org (06:52):
I like what Robbie's saying in the
text, and I think this was actuallysaid in the post as well, is it
shouldn't be imposed in anyone elsejust because you've made a decision,
you know, like you're vegetarian,you shouldn't impose in others.
And I've seen that happen, notface-to-face, but I've seen it
happen in media for instance, youknow that I'm vegetarian, I'm good.
(07:14):
And if you are a meateater, it's you are bad.
You are part of the problem.
I think that's what causedthe animosity between people.
I mean, there's lots of vegetarians thatI know that it's not necessarily about,,
the ethics of, , the meat process and themeat trading slotting of animals, although
they'll have something towards it.
(07:35):
It's just more to what they like andthey feel they should have the choice.
To do that and, and withoutbeing criticized, as long as
they don't criticize others.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (07:45):
I'm skeptical.
I've not come across a situationwhere somebody who's vegetarian has
tried to impose it on other people.
Where I have come across people beingridiculed for being vegetarian and
found difficult, I think it's way inthe other direction in general society.
But if you are saying that peoplespeak out against the cruelty that
(08:08):
happens in regular farming, that weall try to pretend isn't there, then
yes, they can come across as political.
They are making a political statementthat they believe that the farming
practices that we have are cruel andeven with the best will in the world.
That's true.
They are cruel.
(08:29):
, I don't see these., Radicalvegetarians personally, I see them
characterized in the right wing pressand, , I don't see the reality of it.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (08:39):
Is this a situation where me eating is seen as normal and
everything else is seen as different?
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (08:46):
Possibly.
So Ray, because my experience atschool was that I just wanted not
to eat meat, and the interpretationof the people around me was that.
Because I was doing that, it wasaffecting them in some way, and
it affects people in two ways.
They see somebody making a moral standabout the cruelty that happens in farming,
(09:09):
and they are unwilling to make thatlink themselves so they feel criticized
and they come against vegetarians.
They blame them because theydon't want to hear that message.
In the text, Robbie says that therewas an individual that tried to impose
vegetarianism on him, and he also grewup with having religion imposed upon him.
(09:32):
He does believe that some farmingpractices are unnecessarily cruel.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org (09:37):
The next post is from Blue Sky Learning.
It's a mental health service.
We support neuro divergent individualsglobally with coaching, counseling, and
consulting services, and they're basedin Canada and they shared the following.
Are you an autistic individual whofeels like some social situations are
(10:01):
like navigating a maze with no map?
Perhaps you overthink everyconversation in your head wondering
what could have went differently.
This overthinking is your brain tryingto process complex social information
and protect outcomes and environmentsthat aren't always intuitive.
(10:24):
What may seem minor to others can feeloverwhelming, exhausting, or stressful.
Some common signs of autisticoverthinking in social situations
include rehearsing conversationsbefore or during interactions,
analyzing every word, gesture orfacial expression, worrying about
(10:46):
how others perceive you over-planningresponses or what to say next.
Second guessing your words oractions, struggling to initiate
conversation or respond spontaneously.
Hyper focusing on social rulesor expectations, ruminating on
(11:06):
past interactions or mistakes andavoiding social situations due to
anxiety or anticipation or judgment.
These patterns are not flaws.
They're adaptive strategies yourbrain uses to make sense of a social
world that doesn't always accommodateneuro divergent thinking at Blue
(11:29):
Sky Learning, earn your diversity.
Affirming therapists and coaches helpyou navigate social overthinking,
build confidence, and create practicalstrategies that honor your brain's
way of processing information.
Without shame or self blame together, wecan shift from why can't I just be normal
(11:52):
to, how can I engage socially in a waythat feels safe and manageable for me?
You can book a free 20 minute consultat the website shared, or you can send
an email to the email address shared.
We also offer consulting forinclusive workplaces and schools
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (12:14):
this is an intro.
I just wonder how they actually do it.
, I suppose I'd have to go their siteand read into what they're offering
as, practical strategies that on thebrain's way of processing information
without shame or self blame.
But I do identify a lotwith these common signs,
Harry-Autistic-Association.org: rubbish shares in the post. (12:33):
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Support is generic with social workerbudgeting, autistic persons on money,
and also he says, my anxiety isbased on lack of self-esteem due to
lifetime of negativity towards me.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (12:51):
I think that's what's referred as adaptive
strategies to, you know, early trauma.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org: What stands out to me? (12:57):
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While I was reading it, it justdescribed me in so many ways.
You know, the thing, every nowand again, I think of a mistake,
something, it's probably minor inthe grand scheme of things, will no
doubt will be, but , it haunts you.
I said the wrong thing tosomeone and noticed something
(13:19):
that was insulting to someone.
Basically I said the wrong thing, whichembarrassed me for asking it or saying
it, but as far as I'm aware, it didn'tcause too much impact on other person.
But it was all about me actually saying it
.Something simple, but it holds you.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (13:36):
Is there an implication in this post that
autistic people are intuitive orrespond to intuitive environments?
Because I've highlighted this sentencehere, which was this overthinking is your
brain trying to process complex socialinformation and predict outcomes in
environments that aren't always intuitive.
(13:59):
So, who's intuitive here?
Nicola-AutisticRadio.com (14:02):
My take on it would be that, like to be intuitive
is to be able to spot a pattern likeof to be able to like take the data in
and like notice the pattern to be ableto then predict what's gonna happen.
And in social situations.
In the past, before I kind of got somesort of dots filled in for me, I would
(14:22):
be trying to like spot the patternin a social situation, but I hadn't
understood that a person could have like.
Bad intentions or could justreally not want things to go well
between us or whatever it was.
And so it'd be really hard for me to spota pattern if it meant somebody was coming
from a place that's just really hard,like really not , conceivable for me.
(14:44):
Like does it quite enjoys hurtingpeople, that kind of thing.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com: I agree with Nicola. (14:47):
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I think her description of whatintuition . Is really lovely.
For me, intuition is your brain workingthings out unconsciously in a way
that you can't really get a handleon, but the results to you are real.
But the results come in a feelingabout somebody that then goes into
(15:10):
a thought rather than being ableto logically think it through.
And I think.
The possibility is that autisticpeople are slightly more intuitive.
They are dealing with things at that levelmore than, regular folk, because regular
folk are also dealing with the socialinteraction and the social patterns.
(15:33):
, Instead they're doingit in a different way.
And there's a link here to empathy.
People often use the word intuitionwhen what they're doing is they're
empathizing with somebody similar tothemselves and therefore they can predict
them and they call that intuition.
If there's the double empathy paradigmwhere autistic people empathize
(15:59):
easily with other autistic peopleand can predict them from patterns.
Because we know each other,we know what it feels like.
And the same for non-autistic people.
They empathize with each otherfollowing the patterns of expectation.
It could be that we also have tolearn an intuition that goes with
(16:20):
this other group that are differentto us, and that's a difficulty.
But in my experience, often it'sautistic people that have compensated.
The whole of their lives tolearn both sets of skills.
And it seems like , a social sluron us when we are described as less
empathetic or lacking the intuitiveunderstanding of a social situation.
(16:46):
Because many of us have had tonegotiate both situations so much.
And what Theresa responds to my,words by saying, yes, Jules, but
the flow isn't there With theothers, the flow isn't there for us.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org (17:05):
The next post is from Embrace Autism Mental
Health Service Science website DiagnosticCenter, research Based Information
Impairment, bio Autistic for autistics.
Embrace your advantages based in Canadaand what the shared is the following.
They say that unlike most non-autistic,autistic people can switch between
(17:30):
local and global processing as needed.
And the following post explains whatthis actually means, it's part of a
local and global processing autismpaper, which was published on 9th of
April, 2021, but it was last updated.
(17:50):
November 29th.
2025. So they say, first, let'sdo a quick test to see if you
use local or global processing.
And it shows a picture and it says,take a quick look at the image
below and then scroll past the imageuntil you cannot see it anymore.
If the image is now ofyou, describe what you saw.
(18:12):
If you said words like a beach or avacation, then you're a global processor.
You are a person who turns pieces ofinformation into a meaningful hole.
If instead you said words like achair, an umbrella, the ocean, a
sailboat, a ball, or sand, you are alocal processor, a person who focuses
(18:37):
on the details, and as it turns out.
Autistic people tendto be local processors.
In a paper from 2006, Lauren TronEtal described a local processing
preference as one of the eight enhancedperpetual abilities of autistics,
and this begins a nine part series orenhanced sexual functioning and autism.
(19:01):
With this post focusing on principleone of the rev divide in enhance
the sexual functioning EPF model.
And what it says is the global processingstyle refers to attending to the gestalt,
an organization whole that is perceivedas more than the sum of its parts of
a stimulus or processing informationin a more general and big picture way.
(19:27):
Whereas local processing style refers toattending to the specific details of a
stimulus or processing information in anarrower and more detailed oriented way.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (19:41):
Okay.
I think it's hoku, but it mighthave a grain of truth in it.
That's the problem for me.
I've seen these kind of tests often.
You put them across the whole populationand different people say different
things, but it looks to me as though weare jumping to something before there's
been a lot more work and study on it.
(20:04):
I'm normally really willing toaccept, this contributor, but
there's something about the sciencehere that doesn't ring for me.
, There's something about it.
Whenever you get into thesesciences that are about how
humans work, psychologically, wehave to be incredibly careful.
(20:25):
We're classifying people.
When I look at that picture, I amlikely to give both sets of information.
I'm likely to also look at howthe question is framed, and if
it says, what was it you saw?
I would give the global.
, And in other ways of phrasing, I mightpick out the individuals afterwards.
(20:49):
So I might actually say, here's theglobal picture, followed by, here are
the details that I remember from it, tothen support my assertion of the global.
I am concerned if autistic people.
Are put in these categories of detailsonly people when so often we are
(21:09):
the global picture people as well.
, It seems to me that differentincidents in laboratory conditions
create different outcomes.
Theresa-AutisticRadio.com (21:20):
You know what, I can do both, I'm sure.
I suspect we all can do both.
I would be more likely to say, ifwe're going to generalize, like this
post is autistic, people can do both.
I slow down at the start.
I get all of the details before I makethe big global assumption, and it helps
(21:43):
me enormously in the work that I do.
And like Jules, I'm not really into,you know, it's like you're in first year
university psychology class and they askyou, you've seen an old woman or whatever.
The other thing is,
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (21:58):
i'm picking up from what Robbie has said as well.
He says generalizing is harmful.
Now I'm sure that there's some kindof work that's gone on behind this.
, And who the hell am I to criticizescientists who think long and hard
and put their studies together?
However, when these.
Pieces of information that they're stillworking on and still getting their heads
(22:21):
around, come out here into the publicsphere, they can be dangerous to us.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org: Thank you everyone. (22:27):
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It's been a great conversation as always.
And thanks for people that have sharedthose posts that we've talked about
tonight and the topics within them.
This is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 30th of November,
2025, which is here every Sunday.
From 5:55 PM 7:00 PM UK time, and I lookforward to doing the same next week.
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This is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 30th of November, 2025.
St. Andrew's Day.
The first post, which is from AuroraConsulting, who are based in Scotland, a
disability service business consultant.
Aurora is an autistic ownedbusiness offering organization's
(01:12):
bespoke training and consulting,and I've shared the following.
This is a we story about autisticdetermination and how I learned
that I am in charge of me.
I'm sitting in my art class after lunch.
It's the 30th of November, 1992.
It's standard grade art and the lesstalented of is generally get left
(01:34):
to crack on with things, leaving alot of time for chat and relaxing.
A girl called Emma and i are talkingand the subject of vegetarians comes up.
I've been considering becoming vegetarianever since I heard it was even a thing.
Emma argues that vegetarianscan't be healthy.
I argue they could.
(01:56):
It's all friendly.
M and I are in good terms, andeventually one of us suggests a bet.
A bet.
I would be vegetarian for one month andwould see how healthy I was after that.
And that dear readers,is how I became veggie.
It was generally something Iwanted to do, but I had no idea
(02:17):
if I could make that decision.
I needed a push.
A reason to go ahead and a friendlybet was apparently the thing that would
make it so my family had no notice,but those of you who know me well
know I am nothing if not determined.
I'd made that bet I wasgoing to stick to it.
(02:38):
It didn't go down well.
The number of veggie optionsavailable in 1992 were nowhere as
near as plentiful as they are today.
I worked with my lovely homeeconomics teacher to make sure
I was getting enough nutrients.
My home EC teacher wasn't convincedof the wisdom of my actions either,
but she liked a challenge andwas keen to see how I'd get on.
(03:01):
Vegetarians in my wee townwere few and far between.
She hadn't taught many.
She even told me that if I wantedto pass home economics, I had
to cook some non veggie meals.
They sometimes got passed on tomy chemistry teacher as his was
the class after home Economic.
After the Christmas holidays, wedecided I'd won the bet and had
(03:23):
a good laugh and I decided I likebeing vegetarian, so never went back.
This is absolutely not opposed.
Encouraging others to become veggie too.
It's a completely personal choice andit's not going to be right for everyone.
I'm also one of those veggies whohappily prepares meat for other people.
This post is about autistic determination.
(03:46):
So many people telling me itwas a bad idea, so much pressure
to just buy the tuna sandwich.
I previously enjoyed so many peopletelling me I couldn't do it, so I
did, and that's how I learned that Iwas in charge of me, not anyone else.
I'm so grateful for Emmafor making that bet with me.
(04:06):
I don't think either of us knewhow life changing it would be.
And the picture of me is enjoyingsome Ethiopian veggie food last
year and thoroughly enjoying it.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (04:17):
I think my experience of autism is
different, but sharing somethingwhen I was very young, possibly 10.
I was exposed to farming and the marketwhere the animals were sold that would
then be eaten,, rabbits, chickens,turkeys, these kinds of things.
And the conditions that they were keptin when they were being sold at this
(04:41):
Saturday market, that made me inquireas a young autistic boy with all that
overwhelming smell around it about.
The meat and I decided tobecome vegetarian at 10 years
old, which was okay at home.
But then I went to boarding schooland the determination came in when I
(05:04):
was, , bullied because I was told bythe 18 year olds that, , the reason
that they weren't getting enough meator whatever in their diet was because
I had come as a vegetarian, so that.
I carried on for some time and I continuedto be vegetarian, being bullied about
(05:24):
it, but eventually it all stopped and Ihad stood up for myself, but I had come
to a slightly different feeling in my.
That it wasn't necessary to be vegetarian.
It was necessary to be kind to animalsand to reduce the amount of meat I
had in my diet and find other ways.
(05:44):
So for the rest of my life, I'venot been vegetarian, but I've been
a whole food diet person with lotsand lots of different types of food.
And, just sticking to somethingbecause you're told not to, I
think is one of the detriments.
That come with autism ratherthan one of our credits.
(06:05):
I understand what Aurora Consultingis saying about having the strength
to stick to our guns, but sometimes westick to our guns when the motivation
for sticking to our guns isn't logical.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (06:18):
It's an education, isn't it?
An education and lifestyle.
Options and choices.
You know, you can.
Do things when you're a teenager or ayoung person, then you'll change maybe
a decade later or five years later, oryou'll just continue with it because
, it stays with you and it's for you.
, But exploration and self-determination,which I think is a theme of this post
(06:41):
is, something worth, considering, youknow, 'cause very often we get caught
in, , the trap of, expectations and,
normativity.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org (06:52):
I like what Robbie's saying in the
text, and I think this was actuallysaid in the post as well, is it
shouldn't be imposed in anyone elsejust because you've made a decision,
you know, like you're vegetarian,you shouldn't impose in others.
And I've seen that happen, notface-to-face, but I've seen it
happen in media for instance, youknow that I'm vegetarian, I'm good.
(07:14):
And if you are a meateater, it's you are bad.
You are part of the problem.
I think that's what causedthe animosity between people.
I mean, there's lots of vegetarians thatI know that it's not necessarily about,,
the ethics of, , the meat process and themeat trading slotting of animals, although
they'll have something towards it.
(07:35):
It's just more to what they like andthey feel they should have the choice.
To do that and, and withoutbeing criticized, as long as
they don't criticize others.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (07:45):
I'm skeptical.
I've not come across a situationwhere somebody who's vegetarian has
tried to impose it on other people.
Where I have come across people beingridiculed for being vegetarian and
found difficult, I think it's way inthe other direction in general society.
But if you are saying that peoplespeak out against the cruelty that
(08:08):
happens in regular farming, that weall try to pretend isn't there, then
yes, they can come across as political.
They are making a political statementthat they believe that the farming
practices that we have are cruel andeven with the best will in the world.
That's true.
They are cruel.
(08:29):
, I don't see these., Radicalvegetarians personally, I see them
characterized in the right wing pressand, , I don't see the reality of it.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (08:39):
Is this a situation where me eating is seen as normal and
everything else is seen as different?
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (08:46):
Possibly.
So Ray, because my experience atschool was that I just wanted not
to eat meat, and the interpretationof the people around me was that.
Because I was doing that, it wasaffecting them in some way, and
it affects people in two ways.
They see somebody making a moral standabout the cruelty that happens in farming,
(09:09):
and they are unwilling to make thatlink themselves so they feel criticized
and they come against vegetarians.
They blame them because theydon't want to hear that message.
In the text, Robbie says that therewas an individual that tried to impose
vegetarianism on him, and he also grewup with having religion imposed upon him.
(09:32):
He does believe that some farmingpractices are unnecessarily cruel.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org (09:37):
The next post is from Blue Sky Learning.
It's a mental health service.
We support neuro divergent individualsglobally with coaching, counseling, and
consulting services, and they're basedin Canada and they shared the following.
Are you an autistic individual whofeels like some social situations are
(10:01):
like navigating a maze with no map?
Perhaps you overthink everyconversation in your head wondering
what could have went differently.
This overthinking is your brain tryingto process complex social information
and protect outcomes and environmentsthat aren't always intuitive.
(10:24):
What may seem minor to others can feeloverwhelming, exhausting, or stressful.
Some common signs of autisticoverthinking in social situations
include rehearsing conversationsbefore or during interactions,
analyzing every word, gesture orfacial expression, worrying about
(10:46):
how others perceive you over-planningresponses or what to say next.
Second guessing your words oractions, struggling to initiate
conversation or respond spontaneously.
Hyper focusing on social rulesor expectations, ruminating on
(11:06):
past interactions or mistakes andavoiding social situations due to
anxiety or anticipation or judgment.
These patterns are not flaws.
They're adaptive strategies yourbrain uses to make sense of a social
world that doesn't always accommodateneuro divergent thinking at Blue
(11:29):
Sky Learning, earn your diversity.
Affirming therapists and coaches helpyou navigate social overthinking,
build confidence, and create practicalstrategies that honor your brain's
way of processing information.
Without shame or self blame together, wecan shift from why can't I just be normal
(11:52):
to, how can I engage socially in a waythat feels safe and manageable for me?
You can book a free 20 minute consultat the website shared, or you can send
an email to the email address shared.
We also offer consulting forinclusive workplaces and schools
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (12:14):
this is an intro.
I just wonder how they actually do it.
, I suppose I'd have to go their siteand read into what they're offering
as, practical strategies that on thebrain's way of processing information
without shame or self blame.
But I do identify a lotwith these common signs,
Harry-Autistic-Association.org: rubbish shares in the post. (12:33):
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Support is generic with social workerbudgeting, autistic persons on money,
and also he says, my anxiety isbased on lack of self-esteem due to
lifetime of negativity towards me.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (12:51):
I think that's what's referred as adaptive
strategies to, you know, early trauma.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org: What stands out to me? (12:57):
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While I was reading it, it justdescribed me in so many ways.
You know, the thing, every nowand again, I think of a mistake,
something, it's probably minor inthe grand scheme of things, will no
doubt will be, but , it haunts you.
I said the wrong thing tosomeone and noticed something
(13:19):
that was insulting to someone.
Basically I said the wrong thing, whichembarrassed me for asking it or saying
it, but as far as I'm aware, it didn'tcause too much impact on other person.
But it was all about me actually saying it
.Something simple, but it holds you.
Ray-AutisticRadio.com (13:36):
Is there an implication in this post that
autistic people are intuitive orrespond to intuitive environments?
Because I've highlighted this sentencehere, which was this overthinking is your
brain trying to process complex socialinformation and predict outcomes in
environments that aren't always intuitive.
(13:59):
So, who's intuitive here?
Nicola-AutisticRadio.com (14:02):
My take on it would be that, like to be intuitive
is to be able to spot a pattern likeof to be able to like take the data in
and like notice the pattern to be ableto then predict what's gonna happen.
And in social situations.
In the past, before I kind of got somesort of dots filled in for me, I would
(14:22):
be trying to like spot the patternin a social situation, but I hadn't
understood that a person could have like.
Bad intentions or could justreally not want things to go well
between us or whatever it was.
And so it'd be really hard for me to spota pattern if it meant somebody was coming
from a place that's just really hard,like really not , conceivable for me.
(14:44):
Like does it quite enjoys hurtingpeople, that kind of thing.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com: I agree with Nicola. (14:47):
undefined
I think her description of whatintuition . Is really lovely.
For me, intuition is your brain workingthings out unconsciously in a way
that you can't really get a handleon, but the results to you are real.
But the results come in a feelingabout somebody that then goes into
(15:10):
a thought rather than being ableto logically think it through.
And I think.
The possibility is that autisticpeople are slightly more intuitive.
They are dealing with things at that levelmore than, regular folk, because regular
folk are also dealing with the socialinteraction and the social patterns.
(15:33):
, Instead they're doingit in a different way.
And there's a link here to empathy.
People often use the word intuitionwhen what they're doing is they're
empathizing with somebody similar tothemselves and therefore they can predict
them and they call that intuition.
If there's the double empathy paradigmwhere autistic people empathize
(15:59):
easily with other autistic peopleand can predict them from patterns.
Because we know each other,we know what it feels like.
And the same for non-autistic people.
They empathize with each otherfollowing the patterns of expectation.
It could be that we also have tolearn an intuition that goes with
(16:20):
this other group that are differentto us, and that's a difficulty.
But in my experience, often it'sautistic people that have compensated.
The whole of their lives tolearn both sets of skills.
And it seems like , a social sluron us when we are described as less
empathetic or lacking the intuitiveunderstanding of a social situation.
(16:46):
Because many of us have had tonegotiate both situations so much.
And what Theresa responds to my,words by saying, yes, Jules, but
the flow isn't there With theothers, the flow isn't there for us.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org (17:05):
The next post is from Embrace Autism Mental
Health Service Science website DiagnosticCenter, research Based Information
Impairment, bio Autistic for autistics.
Embrace your advantages based in Canadaand what the shared is the following.
They say that unlike most non-autistic,autistic people can switch between
(17:30):
local and global processing as needed.
And the following post explains whatthis actually means, it's part of a
local and global processing autismpaper, which was published on 9th of
April, 2021, but it was last updated.
(17:50):
November 29th.
2025. So they say, first, let'sdo a quick test to see if you
use local or global processing.
And it shows a picture and it says,take a quick look at the image
below and then scroll past the imageuntil you cannot see it anymore.
If the image is now ofyou, describe what you saw.
(18:12):
If you said words like a beach or avacation, then you're a global processor.
You are a person who turns pieces ofinformation into a meaningful hole.
If instead you said words like achair, an umbrella, the ocean, a
sailboat, a ball, or sand, you are alocal processor, a person who focuses
(18:37):
on the details, and as it turns out.
Autistic people tendto be local processors.
In a paper from 2006, Lauren TronEtal described a local processing
preference as one of the eight enhancedperpetual abilities of autistics,
and this begins a nine part series orenhanced sexual functioning and autism.
(19:01):
With this post focusing on principleone of the rev divide in enhance
the sexual functioning EPF model.
And what it says is the global processingstyle refers to attending to the gestalt,
an organization whole that is perceivedas more than the sum of its parts of
a stimulus or processing informationin a more general and big picture way.
(19:27):
Whereas local processing style refers toattending to the specific details of a
stimulus or processing information in anarrower and more detailed oriented way.
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (19:41):
Okay.
I think it's hoku, but it mighthave a grain of truth in it.
That's the problem for me.
I've seen these kind of tests often.
You put them across the whole populationand different people say different
things, but it looks to me as though weare jumping to something before there's
been a lot more work and study on it.
(20:04):
I'm normally really willing toaccept, this contributor, but
there's something about the sciencehere that doesn't ring for me.
, There's something about it.
Whenever you get into thesesciences that are about how
humans work, psychologically, wehave to be incredibly careful.
(20:25):
We're classifying people.
When I look at that picture, I amlikely to give both sets of information.
I'm likely to also look at howthe question is framed, and if
it says, what was it you saw?
I would give the global.
, And in other ways of phrasing, I mightpick out the individuals afterwards.
(20:49):
So I might actually say, here's theglobal picture, followed by, here are
the details that I remember from it, tothen support my assertion of the global.
I am concerned if autistic people.
Are put in these categories of detailsonly people when so often we are
(21:09):
the global picture people as well.
, It seems to me that differentincidents in laboratory conditions
create different outcomes.
Theresa-AutisticRadio.com (21:20):
You know what, I can do both, I'm sure.
I suspect we all can do both.
I would be more likely to say, ifwe're going to generalize, like this
post is autistic, people can do both.
I slow down at the start.
I get all of the details before I makethe big global assumption, and it helps
(21:43):
me enormously in the work that I do.
And like Jules, I'm not really into,you know, it's like you're in first year
university psychology class and they askyou, you've seen an old woman or whatever.
The other thing is,
Jules-AutisticRadio.com (21:58):
i'm picking up from what Robbie has said as well.
He says generalizing is harmful.
Now I'm sure that there's some kindof work that's gone on behind this.
, And who the hell am I to criticizescientists who think long and hard
and put their studies together?
However, when these.
Pieces of information that they're stillworking on and still getting their heads
(22:21):
around, come out here into the publicsphere, they can be dangerous to us.
Harry-Autistic-Association.org: Thank you everyone. (22:27):
undefined
It's been a great conversation as always.
And thanks for people that have sharedthose posts that we've talked about
tonight and the topics within them.
This is Harry's Facebook forSunday, the 30th of November,
2025, which is here every Sunday.
From 5:55 PM 7:00 PM UK time, and I lookforward to doing the same next week.
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