February 6, 2025 • 45 mins
Are you serving God—or something else? In this episode of Between Sermons, Ti’heasha Beasley, Tiffany Hines, and Pastor Jason Parks dive into Pastor Brent’s message about choosing who (or what) we truly serve. From chasing careers and money to over-spiritualizing our busyness, this conversation unpacks how to surrender control and trust God’s timing.
Get ready for real talk, laughs, and insights that will challenge and inspire your faith journey. Don’t miss it!
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Pastor Jason Parks (00:01):
Go ahead and hit record.
Ti’heasha Beasley (00:03):
All right, I'm gonna play the count.
Pastor Jason Parks (00:05):
The bumper, give you a five second
count. Five, four, three, two.
Ti’heasha Beasley (00:31):
Welcome to another episode of Between Sermons.
I am here. As you can see,
Pastor Brandt, he is out living his
best life today. Him and his lovely,
amazing wife, they are headed to the
Bahamas. So we are going to send
God's traveling mercies with them, and we're
going to enjoy this conversation today. And
so I am joined with my lovely
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co host, Tiffany Hines, and we. What
is this? Spirit fingers. What movie is
that? I don't know.
Tiffany Hines (01:05):
I don't know. Spirit fingers. Jazz fingers.
Ti’heasha Beasley (01:08):
Jazz fingers. As you can see, we
are going to have a lot of
fun today, and we are joined with
a very special guest, Pastor Jason Parks.
And so we are just so excited.
This was our first Sunday as Disciples
Church. So how do you guys feel
about that?
Tiffany Hines (01:29):
Whoo. If you were in the room,
it was just very lively. Seeing how
people's reaction was seeing, like, the words
on the wall saying, welcome to Disciples
Church. Our volunteers were super energized. It
was just this worship. It was like
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first love kind of carried into this
new place that we were in. And
so it just felt really great today.
Ti’heasha Beasley (01:58):
I agree. What about you, Pastor Jason?
Pastor Jason Parks (02:01):
I agree. I mean, I felt a
sense of freedom and liberty. You know,
there was a few more people dancing
than normal. I even was hopping a
little bit myself.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:10):
You were definitely hopping.
Pastor Jason Parks (02:12):
I said, what am I hopping for?
Tiffany Hines (02:15):
And the nine, too.
Pastor Jason Parks (02:16):
I was hopping.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:18):
Wow.
Pastor Jason Parks (02:19):
But I think people got it. It
was like people understood what we were
here for, so that it just felt
good.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:25):
Yeah. I feel like what I've been
sensing is like a new, fresh wind
for our church as a congregation. Like,
we are following the vision of our
lead pastors, and I feel like everyone's
rallying behind it and it's just given
us a new assignment and a mission.
And so, yeah. So Pastor Brent taught
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an amazing message. You talk about. He
talked about choosing who you were going
to serve.
Tiffany Hines (02:54):
Yes.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:54):
Not having two masters. So how did
that message impact you? We can start
with you first. Tiff.
Tiffany Hines (03:03):
A few things. Like some notes that
I took down in the message was,
so it's not always, like, about, like,
oh, I need money, I need money.
And trying to trace through, like, where
is it in my mind if there's
any place of God not being Lord
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when it comes to, like, even the
space of, like, not have. And so
even thinking about that side of, like,
is there any space, Lord, that you
are not Lord in that, that I'M
not making like it's still the same
thing. And I wish I had could
put my notes out. It wasn't just,
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you can put your.
Ti’heasha Beasley (03:45):
Notes out, girl, we're free on this
show.
Tiffany Hines (03:47):
It wasn't just about how the care
people can have, like, of, like, being
broke. Oh, I didn't save it. Well,
there's that.
Ti’heasha Beasley (03:55):
There's that part. It's okay.
Tiffany Hines (03:57):
But. But just being kind of like,
wrapped around the. I. I don't know.
It just was this thing of I
need to just check and make sure.
Ti’heasha Beasley (04:06):
Yes.
Tiffany Hines (04:06):
Even in the lows and. And in
the mountains that, like, there's no space.
That money or the lack of money
is, like, becoming more.
Ti’heasha Beasley (04:18):
Yeah. Do you feel. And maybe Pastor
Jason, you can speak into this. I
know he used the illustration of money,
but is this principle something that we
can carry into our lives in general,
like, not serving two gods, or do
you think this passage is specifically illustrating
money?
Pastor Jason Parks (04:38):
Well, it's definitely not just about money.
The principle is there, and we can
use it in every area of our
life. Because at the end of the
day, it does boil down to, you
have two choices. It's either God or
not. And so for me, it was
just a heart check to let me
look. How much am I depending on
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everything else versus God? And not even
in the direct ways. I'm not going
to outright say I trust money more
than I trust God. That's not going
to be it. But with any of
us, what are we sacrificing and where
are we making that sacrifice? And most
often, if it's, I'm sacrificing my prayer
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time for work, if I'm sacrificing Bible
study time for Netflix, it's. All of
these decisions boil down to how am
I spending my attention, my time, my
money? And when you find that you
have this dynamic where, if you put
it on a scale, everything else is
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weighing in terms of your time, your
talent, and your treasure more than God.
That's the reality that the principle is
going to stand. We have to make
some hard choices and sometimes give up
some things. Well, often we're going to
have to give up some things to
make sure that we aren't putting other
things in front of God.
Ti’heasha Beasley (06:00):
Mm, that's good. Do you think you
can put, like, godly assignments in front
of God? I think we kind of
talked about this last week, but what
do you. What are your thoughts?
Tiffany Hines (06:12):
Assignments before God?
Ti’heasha Beasley (06:14):
Yeah. Why that face? Oh, my God,
Sure.
Tiffany Hines (06:18):
Because your timing, like how you said,
no, God give you something, and then
the timing be off. So you think,
like, I'm supposed to run with it
right now and it's catastrophic and you
could really be like, well, the Lord
said it and then just move too
fast and then sometimes move too slow
with a God assignment and you still
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like miss it. Thankfully, the Lord is
kind and he will like realign us.
But I know I've missed it, like
having if God saying something to me
and just running like, well, I need
to go. And I need to go
full steam. And. Because I felt like
the Lord gave this to me. Like
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he's been speaking, it's in my journals.
And then when it didn't work out,
I was devastated. I was absolutely devastated
because this is what the Lord has
said to me and confirmed. And it
really honestly kind of like rocked my
faith. Because when you start putting God's
name in something, it doesn't work out.
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Now you're trying to figure out, well,
wait, hold it.
Ti’heasha Beasley (07:25):
Did I hear this from him?
Tiffany Hines (07:28):
I know you're. Thankfully, I'm in a
place of maturity that I know God
is God, but what's up with me?
Yeah, I can't trust myself in hearing
God's voice, but I just move too
fast. So.
Pastor Jason Parks (07:42):
So this is why I had such
a reaction to it.
Ti’heasha Beasley (07:45):
The stank face.
Pastor Jason Parks (07:46):
Yeah, the stank face. Because that represents
one of the biggest mistakes I ever
made in my life. So I'll come
to that. I want everyone to look
up the term spiritual bypassing. It's a
phrase that really means that we over
spiritualize things that have some very practical,
natural kind of definitions or implications. But
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we want to. We put the label
of God said or whatever on top
of it. And so, you know, I
have done it. I won't talk about
anybody else, but early, like in my
marriage, I confused church work with pursuing
God. I was active in the church.
You hear me? And I will tell
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my wife and children I'm going to
church because this is what God called
me to do and who he called
me to be. And one of the
biggest mistakes was that I had. God
called me to the carpet on it.
Like, sir, you're choosing to do that
because of how it makes you feel
and what it makes you look like.
All the while. I've called you to
be a father and a husband. Everything
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else is after that. And so, yeah,
we can. You know, I have most
certainly. I know others have as well.
But I have made a huge mistake
with regards to over spiritualizing and confusing
what God was saying with what I
think he was saying or What I.
How I wrongly interpret what he was
saying. So it just, it still brings
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up this point in time in my
life when I was like, yeah, I
missed the mark on that. And so
I'm personally, especially with other guys, I
try the best I can to say,
hey, whoa, you're married, you got kids?
Okay, let's really talk about why are
you here? Like, why are you still
here? Take them out to eat, go
to Cracker Barrel or something like that.
Okay, not Cracker Barrel, but you get
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the point.
Tiffany Hines (09:36):
But I was going to ask you,
since you asked that question.
Ti’heasha Beasley (09:38):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (09:39):
What about you? Do you feel like
you can put godly assignments before God?
Ti’heasha Beasley (09:44):
Yeah, you could put anything before God,
even if it's an assignment he called
you to. You can idolize, begin to
idolize that thing. And now you're running
off of this is what I know
God is calling me to do. But
you're neglecting spending time with him. You're
neglecting really hearing his voice and direction
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about it. So absolutely, you can put
anything.
Tiffany Hines (10:08):
Yeah.
Ti’heasha Beasley (10:08):
Before. Before God. So I definitely, I
definitely think it was a timely message.
But what I want to know is,
like, for the people who are watching
and they feel like God has called
them to an assignment or they're in
a place where God really did call
them to an assignment, how can they
look for red flags of this thing?
May be you may be putting it
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before God. How does that look? Because
I know that there's two sides to
every coin. Sometimes you know the enemy
will come in and try to cause
confusion when you are supposed to be
doing something. And so you, you start
feeling guilt and shame in areas that
you're not supposed to be feeling guilt
and shame. And sometimes you are missing
the mark. So, like, what are signs
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as believers who are really just trying
to live a life that's pleasing to
God, but you just need some help
to understand, like, how to really embrace
the space that God have you in.
Like, what are some signs to say?
Like, maybe you're putting this before God.
That was a mouthful. I know, right?
Tiffany Hines (11:10):
Let me open up my. My plate
and eat from it.
Pastor Jason Parks (11:14):
I can jump in with a.
Tiffany Hines (11:16):
If you want to.
Pastor Jason Parks (11:17):
So one of the things he has
a nickname.
Ti’heasha Beasley (11:18):
Jp. Got it. Okay. I had to
join in on this. So now I'm
gonna say J.P. the whole.
Pastor Jason Parks (11:26):
I knew it. One of the telltale
signs for me is I started noticing
a difference between work and toil. Toil
is when you are operating out of
your effort and it just is laborsome.
Like, there's really no joy in it
anymore. You're just missing something, you're doing
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it. And maybe you are checking the
box and getting it done. But the
weight of it is very different. When
you're doing work and you're truly, this
is a call. God's grace is on
it. So there is a multiplier effect
to it. So you may put in
one thing, but out of it, the
fruit of two or three come. And
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so the first kind of internally toil
feels very different than work. But then
outwardly you can say, well, let me
test the fruit of it. Because if
I'm doing something and God is in
it, he's going to give increase. And
so if I look at the results
and the results seem to just kind
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of, it's losing steam because I've been
pushing and pushing. That means God is
like, the cloud has moved. I'm doing
something new.
Ti’heasha Beasley (12:36):
Yeah, the grace has lifted.
Pastor Jason Parks (12:39):
So for me, that's one of the
ways just that I can tell. But
also I will say the question that
should be asked is, why am I
doing this? Why am I doing this?
And from what place am I doing
it? If it's not coming from a
place of prayer and seeking God? And
you found that you're away from that,
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that's an early indication that you're operating
in your own strength. Because if the
very thing that got you this assignment,
which is our submission to God, is
our desire to please him, if we
have gone away from that, then it's
probably an indication that, okay, if nothing
else, I need to go back and
check, like, okay, God, am I still
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in the vein you want me to
be in? Because you can't always use
opposition and stuff like that as an
indication, because.
Ti’heasha Beasley (13:29):
You'Re going to have that anyway.
Pastor Jason Parks (13:31):
No, you're going to get opposition. Because
some things God allows to mold us
in the moment. And so he allows
us in in his process. But ultimately,
looking at your spiritual disciplines, am I
still praying? Am I still worshiping God
in a quiet place? Do I still
yearn for a secret place with him?
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Am I hearing him? Those are the
basics. And once we start getting rid
of those or finding excuses, going back
to your first question, we start finding
ourselves just doing assignments. But out of
a place that does not start with
God, we probably need to just kind
of hit pause and take some time
and say, okay, well, let me just
make sure and I'm okay. Like, I
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would be like, I ain't coming. Because
I just want to pray today and
make sure that the reason I'm coming
is not because of ego or because
I feel called or whatever.
Ti’heasha Beasley (14:21):
So when you say you're not coming,
elaborate on that showing up.
Pastor Jason Parks (14:24):
I don't care what it is showing
up to.
Ti’heasha Beasley (14:26):
Well, what if it's her job?
Pastor Jason Parks (14:27):
If it's my job, I'm taking a
PTO day.
Ti’heasha Beasley (14:30):
Okay?
Pastor Jason Parks (14:31):
Because, I mean. And I. I'm not
even really trying to be funny. Like,
if they're. If I get a sense
that I'm just showing up to show
up, there's no joy. There's nothing there.
And it's all about my stress, my
whatever, whatever. I need to take a
day. And it is the very reason
God gives us the Sabbath. Like, we
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stop honoring that Sabbath. He wants that
time to be a regimented part of
our day. We have to be consistent.
So I'm going, if. If I find
myself running, I'm going to take that
PTO day. And I'm going, just turn
off the tv, no social media, anything,
and say, let me just make sure
I'm in the right place. Because I
want it to be from a place
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of overflow. I want to be a
place from God's work and his call
not toil.
Ti’heasha Beasley (15:19):
That's good.
Tiffany Hines (15:20):
If I could add to that. Another
thing that even if you feel like
God has you right in the middle
is exactly exhaustion.
Pastor Jason Parks (15:28):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (15:29):
Like, when you're just exhausted with it
because, like, thinking it through and this
is my personality, I will go hard
and hard in something that I'm passionate
about. And I don't realize it, but
all of a sudden it's switched into
my own strength, and I'm tired, and
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I actually don't want to do something
that I actually really love to do
because they're just tired, like. And so
I think that when you're trying to
figure out, even with God giving you
an assignment that grace that doesn't mean
that you're not gonna have opposition, that
it's gonna always be easy. But if
you're, like, exhausted, it's a really big
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sign that you're now switched into, like,
your own strength, my own strength. And
now, like, I'm ready to end it.
And so I think the last year
I've been trying to be way more
intentional where if I'm starting to feel
exhausted, I'm taking a break from singing,
like, putting out music. So in the
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middle of recording a song, I'm like,
I just keep feeling a nudge. I'm
not supposed to do it, and I'm
not gonna do it right now. I
want to be obedient to God. It's
exhausting. Which means the marketing is going
to be bad. Everything, all the things,
like, it's okay, like, and so, like,
that's fine. I'm feeling like God doesn't
want me to do the podcast. It's
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exhausting me mentally. There's no joy there.
Not this podcast.
Ti’heasha Beasley (16:57):
Sorry, but she's talking about this podcast.
Tiffany Hines (17:00):
Absolutely not. But doing a podcast that
I knew, I knew God gave it
to me, and it was vibrant and
stuff. But then it's like, okay, well,
God said this. So I got this
llc. I'm like, okay, well, he gave
these different sectors and I started doing
it all at the same time. And
I was just tired because. Timing.
Ti’heasha Beasley (17:22):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (17:22):
You know, and so that kind of
stuff and those signs of like, I
don't even want to do this anymore.
When you actually had joy in it,
it's like you're tapping into your own
strength.
Ti’heasha Beasley (17:34):
What I can say to those things
as well is I feel like as
a culture, we have this mentality that
God gave me this thing and it's
supposed to happen tomorrow. A lot of.
A lot of times what I've learned
in my own personal journey is he
will show you so you can start
preparing and he can start growing you
and he can start teaching you and
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aligning things, but it doesn't mean right
now. So even for myself, I wrote
a book, like, two years ago, Dear
sis, you can live free. And God
was. Praise God. And literally the next
month, God was like, so. So put
it down. What. What about marketing? What
about the motivation? Like, you have to
keep going. And he was like, no,
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it's not time. It. The writing the
book was an act of obedience. What
he wants me to do later, he
will reveal it in time.
Tiffany Hines (18:24):
Yeah.
Ti’heasha Beasley (18:24):
You know, and so I think you
have to. I believe that God is
the biggest strategist. I will say that
absolutely all day long, if you're tapped
into him and if you are putting
him first, he's going to give you
strategy on how to walk out, the
thing he called you to do. And
so I think not as a discouragement,
like I have. This thing is overwhelming
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me. I'm burnt out. Like my sister
said, like, you're doing it in your
own strength. When you tap into God,
when you put him first, he will
give you strategy on how to walk
that calling out. So you don't even
have to be in error, like, you
know, with the calling. It's just that
you're not listening to.
Tiffany Hines (19:05):
God and God will do a switch
up on you and you're like, I
thought we were going this way, and
all of a sudden I'm like, why
does this feel different? Like, you done
did a switcheroo, Lord, and didn't tell
me. So now I'm trying to figure
it out. So that thing of being
able to be flexible and guided by
the Lord in case he, like you,
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didn't know he was about to make
a turn. But I will say a
sign that has been encouraging along the
way with those twists and turns. If
I'm doing all of that, that means
that I'm still in the car. So
even, like, if it's moving around and
you feel like God, this assignment or
that, like, I can't tell. But if
you're still in the car and you
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still got the wheel, even though it's
turning, that still means that you're, like,
in the car. So being able to
identify with God, like, and along this
road, like, what is going on? Like,
am I doing something out of my
own strength? Is something taking priority over
you? Like, please show me, but also
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be encouraged, like, as a Christian, that
you're still in the car.
Ti’heasha Beasley (20:11):
You're still in the car. You're still
in the game.
Tiffany Hines (20:13):
Still in the game.
Ti’heasha Beasley (20:14):
Maybe just a different strategy. You were
going to say something, jp.
Pastor Jason Parks (20:17):
I just. What I'll add.
Ti’heasha Beasley (20:21):
I had to say that.
Pastor Jason Parks (20:22):
I know. I'm just. We just going
to get over it. It's fine. You
can call me jp. It's all good
from now on. One of the things
I've learned throughout this, and I want
to make sure I encourage someone about
something that came to me. But first,
you know, in our journey, we oftentimes,
in terms of, like, church folks, we
know, like, we pray and all this
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about the devil keeping things from us.
So in our culture, we're striving and,
oh, he's keeping this from me, and
he's keeping this from me. And you
keep going, and you keep going and
keep going. Well, often one of the
things that the enemy will also do
is push you too far too fast.
So we always are fighting and rebuking
and telling him to let stuff go.
But sometimes he has his hand in
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our back saying, yeah, you can do
it. Yeah, you need to do this.
Look at all this skill you have.
And it's another form of deception where
he. He does not want us to
see that when God says, okay, do
something. If you don't have a new
assignment, keep doing that assignment. So he'll
move you off of the current assignment.
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Because that's where God's fruit Is that's
where he wants to form you. He
keep going, do more. And so in
our culture, we have. That's why I'm
just going to harp on this. We
have to keep that space of prayer.
We have to keep that space in
the word, because Lord will reveal himself
in that. That's where he's going to
reveal himself. Can he use a TV
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show? Can he use a podcast? Absolutely.
Can he use TikTok? Absolutely. But without
a doubt, his confirmed word, his revelation
in prayer and in the Bible. So
I just want to encourage, you know,
even if you missed it, I love
what Tiff said. Even if you missed
it, God is so gracious that he
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will even help. Crooked paths, straight. Let's
say you got on the wrong path
and it's crooked. He'll straighten it up
to point right back to his will.
If you just settle yourself and say,
you know what? I missed it. I'm
sorry, I missed it. I want to
hear you. Let me pause. And he'll
get you back on the right path.
Ti’heasha Beasley (22:26):
That was good. I do have a
question I wanted to. To ask. You
know how in. In scripture it talks
about Jesus asking the rich young ruler
to surrender his wealth? What do you
feel moving away from that, that theme
of money? How does that look in
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your life? Has God asked you to
surrender something that was actually thriving? You
was winning in this area, and God
was like, give it up. How does
that look? Or are you currently in
it?
Tiffany Hines (23:02):
Tyisha, tell us. Tell us what you
feel.
Ti’heasha Beasley (23:05):
No, I'm just saying.
Tiffany Hines (23:07):
So I have this one thing that
happened years ago. So I've been praying.
I was like, in my late 20s,
I had been praying for a new
car, and I didn't know how. I
definitely didn't have the money for a
car note. So I had just been
praying about one. And so we had
some pastors that used to go here,
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and they came to me and was
like, hey, we have this car. I
don't know if someone say, like, dropped
it off or something. And so they
were like, you know, if you want
it. And so I'm like, oh, my
gosh, this is an answer prayer. I'm
serving in our youth ministry. And there
was a girl who's like my same
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age, and so she's around the circle
and she's asking for prayer because she
needs a car. And so we're praying
for her. And I just like, God's
like, offer her that car.
Ti’heasha Beasley (24:03):
Oh, my goodness.
Tiffany Hines (24:04):
I was like, dang.
Ti’heasha Beasley (24:08):
So you needed the car, too?
Tiffany Hines (24:09):
Yes, I needed the car. And so
I'm like, I can't believe you want
me to give this car away. So
I didn't say it to her because
it wasn't my car to give right
away. So I went to them, to
the pastor, like, hey, the car that
you wanted to give me. I'm like,
I felt like the Lord said for
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this other person, you know. And so
they were like, okay, but it's not
your car to give. So with that,
you know, they pretty much were letting
me know that we had you say
in mind, but you don't have to
worry about that. So then they asked
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me again, so would you want the
car? And I was like, yes. And
so what I felt like I learned,
not what I felt like, what I
learned in that was simply be obedient.
Kind of like with Isaac and his
father Jacob. The Lord knew he wasn't
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going to have him kill his son,
but he just wanted to see if
he was going to be obedient. Oh,
right, sorry. As we talking about the
word, Abraham and Isaac. So he just
wanted to see if he would listen.
And so that was like a. It
was like a hard moment, but it
wasn't too hard because I was already
like in this place. So I just
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want to do what you want. And
they told me like, well, ain't your
car anyway to give, so if you
don't take it, we're gonna give it
to someone else. Like, well, I'll take
it. And then I had a car
and it was about obedience. So.
Ti’heasha Beasley (25:48):
Wow, that's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (25:52):
Well, my one. One of the areas
is less tangible, which I think, you
know, I want to. I want to
mention for me and treasure the riches,
it really boils down to an area
of comfort that you are putting ahead
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of God. Okay, so I want to
start by saying that. And for a
long time I put comfort around me
knowing things. My ability to figure it
out, to know all of the x's
and y's and dots and crossing t's
and all of that. And so for
the last three years that I'm aware
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of, God probably was trying to get
my attention before this, but he has
put in me such an uncomfortable position
where I don't know what's happening in
my life past maybe a month or
a week. And what I mean by
that is, I don't know, like, I
have had to have faith around so
many different areas. Not just in my
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finances there too, but within my career,
within how I parent, how the type
of husband I am within the church
and pastoring people And I. I've walked
into more conversations that are beyond my
experience. I don't know the answer, but
the person on the other side of
me is looking for an answer. And
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in that moment, I've had to set
aside my intellect and pray and say,
lord, I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know what they're talking about.
They lost me about three minutes ago,
I'm just telling you. And so my
intellect, my experience, education, none of that
has been thrown out the window, Especially
when it comes to ministry within my
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gifts. It's things coming out of me
the Lord is doing that I did
not practice for. I don't have a
frame of reference. I'm reading, I'm asking.
I'm just like, well, Lord, what are
you doing? And so I believe that
there's going to come a time for
all of us where the Lord is
going to say, well, do you trust
me or do you? I mean, you
could do it yourself, but for me,
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it's been the area of faith and
trust in every area. It's like he
is taking away all the comforts and
trying to rebuild me into a new
person. And so, you know, I'll let
y'all know next month where I am
and who I am.
Ti’heasha Beasley (28:21):
I mean, anyway, yeah, I feel that
for you. And I'm just playing.
Pastor Jason Parks (28:26):
I just be like, I'm just out
here, y'all. I'm just.
Ti’heasha Beasley (28:29):
We all out here. I mean, the
older I get, the more mature I
get. I realize that the people I
looked up to, that I felt like
had it all together. They have it
all together. Everybody out here winging it
with the grace, winging it, Getting up
every morning like, okay, God, let me.
Let me go out and do what
I did yesterday. But, you know, I
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feel like new grace, new mercies. Like,
when he does something new, he gives
grace for that and he gives mercy
for that. And so we. If we
are the same person we were five,
10 years ago, then that's a problem.
He's stretching all of us and calling
new things out of us for what
he needs in this time. So praise
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God for that. Yeah. Any.
Pastor Jason Parks (29:17):
I thought you had something right.
Ti’heasha Beasley (29:18):
Right? You had this look like. Yeah,
let me tell you. No, I'm sorry.
Tiffany Hines (29:22):
No, you go ahead.
Ti’heasha Beasley (29:24):
No. So I love the quote that
Pastor Brent used in his sermon. He's
by A.W. towser. God is exalted in
the right place in our lives. A
thousand problems are solved all at once,
man. Who could testify to that? What
does that look like in Your everyday
life. Let's start with jp. I'm sorry.
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We're gonna stay there. We're gonna stay
with the jp. You should have never
said it. That's your nickname from now
on.
Pastor Jason Parks (29:53):
It's fine. It's fine. It's not a
problem. Okay. It really boils down to
me about priority and clarity that the
Holy Spirit gives, especially in times of
stress and overwhelm. What it looks like
in my life is, you know, especially
when it comes to, like, I'm trying
to build a career, but at the
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same time, I'm trying to, you know,
be present in ministry. I'm trying to
be a present father. And I'm like,
well, how am I do this? How
am I be here? How am I
be there? And I'm going to keep
underscoring this, that those times, my treadmill
is my like, special time. I just
get on the treadmill and I go
on a prayer walk inside my house.
But in those moments, he puts in
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order what I need to recognize and
do something about versus what he's working
on. And it'll be worked out. And
in my mind, it's just all in
the front. It's like everything has the
same amount of weight. And he just
says, actually, no, focus on this. I'll
take care of that. Or, that should
not even be your concern. You're taking
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on a weight that was not meant
for you.
Ti’heasha Beasley (31:00):
That's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (31:01):
And so the thousand problems are solved
at the same time is because you
realize that they're not actually problems in
the first place. So I'm again, I'm
learning on the fly. Like, when I'm
getting ready to do something, it's like,
no, that's actually, that's a good idea.
But that's not God's idea. That's something
you should do in theory, but that's
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not what you're about to do. And
so a thousand things come down to
priority and order. And God gives that
clarity when I'm. I'm in that time
with him, you know, and some stuff
he works out along the way. Again,
I like plans. And then sometimes he
just says, walk, take one step. The
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steps of a good man are ordered
by the Lord. They are put before
you. I'm going to be a lamp
to your feet and a light to
your path.
Ti’heasha Beasley (31:51):
That's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (31:51):
So I'm going to show you where
you need to step. And then there
are times I'm going to show you
where to go. Sometimes you just going
to get one or the other, not
both. And so the things that are
down the path. Don't worry about that.
I'm not. You're not there yet. I'm
there, but you're not there yet. So
that's what it looks like, at least
for me.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:11):
That's good.
Tiffany Hines (32:12):
I'm good. I was so, like, listening
to you. I honestly don't even fully
remember the quote, so I don't have
to read it again.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:21):
Do you want me to read it
again, sis? Okay. Because I just feel
like it was a good quote.
Tiffany Hines (32:27):
You, like.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:29):
As God is exalted to the right
place in our lives, a thousand problems
are solved all at once. So what
does that look like in your life?
So is there a season where you
were in the middle of some stresses
and you focused on God, you aligned
with God? She's like, no, I'm good.
Pastor Jason Parks (32:52):
He talked enough. It's fine.
Tiffany Hines (32:54):
Just, like, the different things. And some
things, it's a. It's an active trust
thing.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:59):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (33:00):
As those problems kind of dissipate. So
that's what I'm trying to figure out,
because it's not. I feel like I
haven't had these just huge things that
have consistently happened, like, over my life.
But then the big thing is in
act like an active thing of casting
those cares or in fixing it on
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God. And the more that I do
that, I'm seeing, like, the peace and,
like, the reassurance that, like, I got
you. And then even, like, having people
around me to remind me, like, that
part is a huge thing. And it's
funny, as Jason is the D.C. group's
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pastor, just thinking through when you're still,
like, walking through it, trying to keep
your eyes fixed on God, but it's
still hard, you know, when you have
prayers. I was saying to my accountability
partners that, like, we've been riding Ride
or die, praying for each other. Got
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prayerless. Everything I'm seeing stuff get scratched
off theirs. I'm like, this is great.
I'm like, not one of the things
on my list has been scratched off.
Ti’heasha Beasley (34:13):
Oh, God, not one.
Tiffany Hines (34:15):
So it's just kind of like, okay,
help me to keep my eyes fixed
on you. Let me check some stuff
within my soul, which I've been doing
in that space, but it's literally an
active place of fixing my eyes and
seeing them more this fast has been
like, I have, like, dove into God's
Word in a way that I had
not experienced before, and stuff just started
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connecting. Like, I enjoy reading the Word
in a way that I have because
I'm seeing it transform and I look
Forward to it because my eyes are
getting more fixed on it and like
those problems are starting to become just
small because I really want to just
be close to Christ and know him
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so well. Like every time I open
the Word, it's like, okay, I'm about
to like dive into something that I
already read before, but now it's like
planted in my heart. So that's the
thing that, that for me, where I
am at, that's an active thing.
Ti’heasha Beasley (35:14):
That's good. It kind of leads me
to my next question. When we think
about putting the Word of God into
practice, what are some applications that we
can give the viewers to start implementing
in their life? Right to if they
are looking, they're listening to the conversation,
they listen to the sermon and they're
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like, you know what? I've put money
before you, I've put this career, I
put this assignment before you, God, I
want to realign. Like what are some,
some things they can start doing today?
Pastor Jason Parks (35:49):
I'm going say it again. The spiritual
disciplines.
Ti’heasha Beasley (35:52):
Okay.
Tiffany Hines (35:53):
Because come on, Disciples church. You better
keep us on brand here in the
Holy Spirit.
Pastor Jason Parks (36:01):
I'm just saying because we have to
fight the tendency to complicate what God
has made. Simple.
Tiffany Hines (36:09):
That's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (36:10):
God has made this really simple, that
His Word, like I said, is a
lamp to our feet and a light
to our path. His Word is like
a two edged sword. It is alive
and it speaks to us. It's so
fine and so effective that it can
split bone and marrow. It can tell
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us the very thoughts and intent of
our heart. Yeah, but we would rather
rely on something else because it sounds
better. Maybe. So I just really focus.
I mean, Tiff just brought it out.
Like as we go into this Word,
we can recognize that this Word will
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tell us the very thoughts and intent
of our heart and it will show
us. Oh, see, I did elevate this
above. I did want this thing more
than anything. And I wasn't seeking God.
Like for real, for real. The Word
would do that. And I've seen it.
And so that along with prayer allows
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us to have a conversation with God
for us to cast our cares upon
him because he cares for us. And
in prayer he begins to illuminate things
to us and we learn how to
communicate. And then of course you gotta
be in a group. I think finding
people who truly know the Lord, who
are beyond kind of where you are
spiritually, you definitely need peers where we're
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kind of walking together. But you need
someone who has walked that path already
and they're not impressed by money anymore.
They're not impressed by prestige. They already
bought a house. They're over that. They
already bought car. All of that is
over. But they can help you center
in on what God wants to do
in your life. Cause they see you
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in a way you don't see yourself.
They see you in a more objective
way without as many emotions they should
be connected to emotionally. So the first
step is to reestablish a cadence where
prayer and Bible study and accountability, discipleship
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is a regular fixture in your life.
And then from there, clarity comes and
you will start to see things diminish.
So wherever you are, again, we complicate
it and we try to find more
books, we try to find more videos,
more courses. When God has made His
Word so complete, where. When we start
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there, then the other things confirm it.
Right? So I'm not saying don't listen
to a podcast, of course, or whatever,
but we have to start in the
Word. So the place to start is
there, because the Holy Spirit will give
you a rhema word, a very, very
present and relevant word for your life,
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and then there will be confirmation in
that. And no one on the other
side of here can give you, you
know, prophetic words for you every single
day, but the Holy Spirit, absolutely every
day can give you your daily bread.
Tiffany Hines (39:14):
Yeah. As you were talking, and even,
like, with the. With the Word and
illuminating and the desire to learn more,
not just about His Word, but, like,
actually experience his glory, you know, in
a new way. And these examples, like
in the Bible and seeing the way
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when God revealed His glory and what
happened to the person, it revealed to
how much they needed God. And like,
whoa, I can see myself descend in
my heart. That. And that was the
thing. I'm like, I desire to see
your glory in a way that allows
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you to be glorified in a way
that I can see how much I
need you. And so when I think
about during. During the fast, and this
was the thing, like, God, I want
to experience these things that I haven't
experienced before, like something different. And. Sorry,
I have a little dry cough.
Ti’heasha Beasley (40:18):
It's okay.
Tiffany Hines (40:18):
And so during the. During the fast,
I'm talking, I'm spending some good time
with the Lord. And I have a
dream one night, and this artist, this
RB artist that I really like and
enjoy, I'll leave them nameless. But they're
a good vibe. Like, I really like
a good vibe. Really cool, chill. If
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you can sing. Like, I. Yeah, so
I listen to them a lot and
other music like it. But they were
in my dream. And so I'm like,
so we were dancing in the dream.
Like, just kind of like dancing and
vibing. And what I remember is in
that I was in also another room.
And in that other room, like, I
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had on a wedding dress and there
was a groom there, and I was
about to get married. So there's the
room there, the other room where I'm
like, hanging out with the artist. And
I find out, like, the artist, like,
actually is interested in me. So I'm
like, oh, really? You know, getting excited
about it. And so last minute, like,
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right before the wedding, I was. Was
going back and forth, and I last
minute decided, I'm not going, Marina, I'm
gonna. I'm gonna go with Lucky. I
mean, well, the artist. Lucky day. So
I'm like, I'm gonna just go with
him.
Ti’heasha Beasley (41:36):
This was all a dream.
Tiffany Hines (41:38):
It was all a dream. So I'm
like, you know, I was happy. Like,
we could be together. We can, like,
write music, all the things. And I
was just like, in this dream. So
I am texting with a friend, and
she's asking how my fast is going.
I'm texting her, and I remember it
like, girl, last night I had this
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dream and I'm telling her about the
artist and stuff like that. And as
I'm like typing or texting out it,
it was like I was texting her.
And as I'm texting this, the Lord
is revealing what this dream was. And
so he's revealing, you know, so I'm
the bride, which is the bride of
Christ. So God was Jesus. Jesus being
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the groom, me, the bride, I decided
and chose to last minute. I'm not
gonna get married. I'm gonna, like, go
and be with this person. And it's
gonna be a good time. It's gonna
be fun. We're gonna fight, that kind
of thing. And it was like the
Lord showing me, like, in your heart,
you still love the world. And so
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I'm like. Because of the desire that
was so, like, fierce in my heart
during that fast. And then post that
was. And God showed me as I
want. Like, he's gonna show his glory,
but this way that he's like, hey,
these things are in your heart. And
you prayed about this in these examples.
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And he, like, showed me a space.
So I was just like, dang.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:11):
Dang.
Tiffany Hines (43:12):
But very grateful. Grateful.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:13):
That's so funny.
Tiffany Hines (43:14):
Thank you, God, for me having this.
Because at first I was like, this
is a really weird dream to have
in a fast. But I knew it
was The Lord's love.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:23):
Exposing.
Tiffany Hines (43:24):
Exposing. Like I want to be exposed.
Like I don't want to be out
here.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:28):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (43:29):
Living one way when there's more, you
know, as a believer. So, yeah, it
revealed.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:35):
Yeah. So let me see if I
can put both of these great responses
into one as we conclude our show.
If you are in a season where
God is exposing and revealing, as Pastor
Jason said, you want to get to
a place where you almost living with
your hands open and you're saying, God,
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you order my steps, you lead me,
you guide me. I want to submit
even my own desires to you. That's
a good place to start. And also
I encourage you to go back and
watch the sermon. Pastor Brent did an
amazing job explaining exactly how we should
deal with these two masters in our
lives. And let us know just how
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we could be praying with you. Share
this video with people who you just
want to encourage in this way because
we live in a world where busyness
is actually a popular thing right now.
It's applauded. And maybe this is a
season where God is telling you to
slow down because he wants to refine
you and shape you and get you
ready for that, that next assignment. So
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just align your heart back to Christ
and we hope this episode blessed you.
Let us know, we know you, you
watch between sermons, but let us know
in the comments what your thoughts are
about this episode. And we are just
praying God's blessings over you. So until
we meet again, thank you guests for
joining us. Any last words? Where can
we find you guys on social media?
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How can we connect? Yep, we're doing
it. I'm in charge of media, so
we're doing it.
Tiffany Hines (45:07):
So my IG is Tiffany Hines music.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:11):
Awesome.
Tiffany Hines (45:11):
But I'm also like on a six
month hiatus.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:14):
You fit in my social, but it's
okay.
Tiffany Hines (45:18):
But I mean, once I'm back on,
so. Yep. Tiffany Hines.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:21):
Yes. Awesome.
Pastor Jason Parks (45:23):
I'm out here somewhere. I'm on TikTok
more. So you went.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:28):
You went viral recently, you and your
wife.
Pastor Jason Parks (45:34):
Mr. Jason T. Parks is usually what.
What the handle is. So just, I'm.
I'm out here somewhere.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:40):
Did God give you strategy on how
to go viral? I just. The people
want to know. All right.
Pastor Jason Parks (45:47):
Till we meet again.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:49):
Till you meet again. Don't serve two
masters.
Go ahead and hit record.
Ti’heasha Beasley (00:03):
All right, I'm gonna play the count.
Pastor Jason Parks (00:05):
The bumper, give you a five second
count. Five, four, three, two.
Ti’heasha Beasley (00:31):
Welcome to another episode of Between Sermons.
I am here. As you can see,
Pastor Brandt, he is out living his
best life today. Him and his lovely,
amazing wife, they are headed to the
Bahamas. So we are going to send
God's traveling mercies with them, and we're
going to enjoy this conversation today. And
so I am joined with my lovely
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co host, Tiffany Hines, and we. What
is this? Spirit fingers. What movie is
that? I don't know.
Tiffany Hines (01:05):
I don't know. Spirit fingers. Jazz fingers.
Ti’heasha Beasley (01:08):
Jazz fingers. As you can see, we
are going to have a lot of
fun today, and we are joined with
a very special guest, Pastor Jason Parks.
And so we are just so excited.
This was our first Sunday as Disciples
Church. So how do you guys feel
about that?
Tiffany Hines (01:29):
Whoo. If you were in the room,
it was just very lively. Seeing how
people's reaction was seeing, like, the words
on the wall saying, welcome to Disciples
Church. Our volunteers were super energized. It
was just this worship. It was like
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first love kind of carried into this
new place that we were in. And
so it just felt really great today.
Ti’heasha Beasley (01:58):
I agree. What about you, Pastor Jason?
Pastor Jason Parks (02:01):
I agree. I mean, I felt a
sense of freedom and liberty. You know,
there was a few more people dancing
than normal. I even was hopping a
little bit myself.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:10):
You were definitely hopping.
Pastor Jason Parks (02:12):
I said, what am I hopping for?
Tiffany Hines (02:15):
And the nine, too.
Pastor Jason Parks (02:16):
I was hopping.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:18):
Wow.
Pastor Jason Parks (02:19):
But I think people got it. It
was like people understood what we were
here for, so that it just felt
good.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:25):
Yeah. I feel like what I've been
sensing is like a new, fresh wind
for our church as a congregation. Like,
we are following the vision of our
lead pastors, and I feel like everyone's
rallying behind it and it's just given
us a new assignment and a mission.
And so, yeah. So Pastor Brent taught
(02:48):
an amazing message. You talk about. He
talked about choosing who you were going
to serve.
Tiffany Hines (02:54):
Yes.
Ti’heasha Beasley (02:54):
Not having two masters. So how did
that message impact you? We can start
with you first. Tiff.
Tiffany Hines (03:03):
A few things. Like some notes that
I took down in the message was,
so it's not always, like, about, like,
oh, I need money, I need money.
And trying to trace through, like, where
is it in my mind if there's
any place of God not being Lord
(03:24):
when it comes to, like, even the
space of, like, not have. And so
even thinking about that side of, like,
is there any space, Lord, that you
are not Lord in that, that I'M
not making like it's still the same
thing. And I wish I had could
put my notes out. It wasn't just,
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you can put your.
Ti’heasha Beasley (03:45):
Notes out, girl, we're free on this
show.
Tiffany Hines (03:47):
It wasn't just about how the care
people can have, like, of, like, being
broke. Oh, I didn't save it. Well,
there's that.
Ti’heasha Beasley (03:55):
There's that part. It's okay.
Tiffany Hines (03:57):
But. But just being kind of like,
wrapped around the. I. I don't know.
It just was this thing of I
need to just check and make sure.
Ti’heasha Beasley (04:06):
Yes.
Tiffany Hines (04:06):
Even in the lows and. And in
the mountains that, like, there's no space.
That money or the lack of money
is, like, becoming more.
Ti’heasha Beasley (04:18):
Yeah. Do you feel. And maybe Pastor
Jason, you can speak into this. I
know he used the illustration of money,
but is this principle something that we
can carry into our lives in general,
like, not serving two gods, or do
you think this passage is specifically illustrating
money?
Pastor Jason Parks (04:38):
Well, it's definitely not just about money.
The principle is there, and we can
use it in every area of our
life. Because at the end of the
day, it does boil down to, you
have two choices. It's either God or
not. And so for me, it was
just a heart check to let me
look. How much am I depending on
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everything else versus God? And not even
in the direct ways. I'm not going
to outright say I trust money more
than I trust God. That's not going
to be it. But with any of
us, what are we sacrificing and where
are we making that sacrifice? And most
often, if it's, I'm sacrificing my prayer
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time for work, if I'm sacrificing Bible
study time for Netflix, it's. All of
these decisions boil down to how am
I spending my attention, my time, my
money? And when you find that you
have this dynamic where, if you put
it on a scale, everything else is
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weighing in terms of your time, your
talent, and your treasure more than God.
That's the reality that the principle is
going to stand. We have to make
some hard choices and sometimes give up
some things. Well, often we're going to
have to give up some things to
make sure that we aren't putting other
things in front of God.
Ti’heasha Beasley (06:00):
Mm, that's good. Do you think you
can put, like, godly assignments in front
of God? I think we kind of
talked about this last week, but what
do you. What are your thoughts?
Tiffany Hines (06:12):
Assignments before God?
Ti’heasha Beasley (06:14):
Yeah. Why that face? Oh, my God,
Sure.
Tiffany Hines (06:18):
Because your timing, like how you said,
no, God give you something, and then
the timing be off. So you think,
like, I'm supposed to run with it
right now and it's catastrophic and you
could really be like, well, the Lord
said it and then just move too
fast and then sometimes move too slow
with a God assignment and you still
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like miss it. Thankfully, the Lord is
kind and he will like realign us.
But I know I've missed it, like
having if God saying something to me
and just running like, well, I need
to go. And I need to go
full steam. And. Because I felt like
the Lord gave this to me. Like
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he's been speaking, it's in my journals.
And then when it didn't work out,
I was devastated. I was absolutely devastated
because this is what the Lord has
said to me and confirmed. And it
really honestly kind of like rocked my
faith. Because when you start putting God's
name in something, it doesn't work out.
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Now you're trying to figure out, well,
wait, hold it.
Ti’heasha Beasley (07:25):
Did I hear this from him?
Tiffany Hines (07:28):
I know you're. Thankfully, I'm in a
place of maturity that I know God
is God, but what's up with me?
Yeah, I can't trust myself in hearing
God's voice, but I just move too
fast. So.
Pastor Jason Parks (07:42):
So this is why I had such
a reaction to it.
Ti’heasha Beasley (07:45):
The stank face.
Pastor Jason Parks (07:46):
Yeah, the stank face. Because that represents
one of the biggest mistakes I ever
made in my life. So I'll come
to that. I want everyone to look
up the term spiritual bypassing. It's a
phrase that really means that we over
spiritualize things that have some very practical,
natural kind of definitions or implications. But
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we want to. We put the label
of God said or whatever on top
of it. And so, you know, I
have done it. I won't talk about
anybody else, but early, like in my
marriage, I confused church work with pursuing
God. I was active in the church.
You hear me? And I will tell
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my wife and children I'm going to
church because this is what God called
me to do and who he called
me to be. And one of the
biggest mistakes was that I had. God
called me to the carpet on it.
Like, sir, you're choosing to do that
because of how it makes you feel
and what it makes you look like.
All the while. I've called you to
be a father and a husband. Everything
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else is after that. And so, yeah,
we can. You know, I have most
certainly. I know others have as well.
But I have made a huge mistake
with regards to over spiritualizing and confusing
what God was saying with what I
think he was saying or What I.
How I wrongly interpret what he was
saying. So it just, it still brings
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up this point in time in my
life when I was like, yeah, I
missed the mark on that. And so
I'm personally, especially with other guys, I
try the best I can to say,
hey, whoa, you're married, you got kids?
Okay, let's really talk about why are
you here? Like, why are you still
here? Take them out to eat, go
to Cracker Barrel or something like that.
Okay, not Cracker Barrel, but you get
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the point.
Tiffany Hines (09:36):
But I was going to ask you,
since you asked that question.
Ti’heasha Beasley (09:38):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (09:39):
What about you? Do you feel like
you can put godly assignments before God?
Ti’heasha Beasley (09:44):
Yeah, you could put anything before God,
even if it's an assignment he called
you to. You can idolize, begin to
idolize that thing. And now you're running
off of this is what I know
God is calling me to do. But
you're neglecting spending time with him. You're
neglecting really hearing his voice and direction
(10:04):
about it. So absolutely, you can put
anything.
Tiffany Hines (10:08):
Yeah.
Ti’heasha Beasley (10:08):
Before. Before God. So I definitely, I
definitely think it was a timely message.
But what I want to know is,
like, for the people who are watching
and they feel like God has called
them to an assignment or they're in
a place where God really did call
them to an assignment, how can they
look for red flags of this thing?
May be you may be putting it
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before God. How does that look? Because
I know that there's two sides to
every coin. Sometimes you know the enemy
will come in and try to cause
confusion when you are supposed to be
doing something. And so you, you start
feeling guilt and shame in areas that
you're not supposed to be feeling guilt
and shame. And sometimes you are missing
the mark. So, like, what are signs
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as believers who are really just trying
to live a life that's pleasing to
God, but you just need some help
to understand, like, how to really embrace
the space that God have you in.
Like, what are some signs to say?
Like, maybe you're putting this before God.
That was a mouthful. I know, right?
Tiffany Hines (11:10):
Let me open up my. My plate
and eat from it.
Pastor Jason Parks (11:14):
I can jump in with a.
Tiffany Hines (11:16):
If you want to.
Pastor Jason Parks (11:17):
So one of the things he has
a nickname.
Ti’heasha Beasley (11:18):
Jp. Got it. Okay. I had to
join in on this. So now I'm
gonna say J.P. the whole.
Pastor Jason Parks (11:26):
I knew it. One of the telltale
signs for me is I started noticing
a difference between work and toil. Toil
is when you are operating out of
your effort and it just is laborsome.
Like, there's really no joy in it
anymore. You're just missing something, you're doing
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it. And maybe you are checking the
box and getting it done. But the
weight of it is very different. When
you're doing work and you're truly, this
is a call. God's grace is on
it. So there is a multiplier effect
to it. So you may put in
one thing, but out of it, the
fruit of two or three come. And
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so the first kind of internally toil
feels very different than work. But then
outwardly you can say, well, let me
test the fruit of it. Because if
I'm doing something and God is in
it, he's going to give increase. And
so if I look at the results
and the results seem to just kind
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of, it's losing steam because I've been
pushing and pushing. That means God is
like, the cloud has moved. I'm doing
something new.
Ti’heasha Beasley (12:36):
Yeah, the grace has lifted.
Pastor Jason Parks (12:39):
So for me, that's one of the
ways just that I can tell. But
also I will say the question that
should be asked is, why am I
doing this? Why am I doing this?
And from what place am I doing
it? If it's not coming from a
place of prayer and seeking God? And
you found that you're away from that,
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that's an early indication that you're operating
in your own strength. Because if the
very thing that got you this assignment,
which is our submission to God, is
our desire to please him, if we
have gone away from that, then it's
probably an indication that, okay, if nothing
else, I need to go back and
check, like, okay, God, am I still
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in the vein you want me to
be in? Because you can't always use
opposition and stuff like that as an
indication, because.
Ti’heasha Beasley (13:29):
You'Re going to have that anyway.
Pastor Jason Parks (13:31):
No, you're going to get opposition. Because
some things God allows to mold us
in the moment. And so he allows
us in in his process. But ultimately,
looking at your spiritual disciplines, am I
still praying? Am I still worshiping God
in a quiet place? Do I still
yearn for a secret place with him?
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Am I hearing him? Those are the
basics. And once we start getting rid
of those or finding excuses, going back
to your first question, we start finding
ourselves just doing assignments. But out of
a place that does not start with
God, we probably need to just kind
of hit pause and take some time
and say, okay, well, let me just
make sure and I'm okay. Like, I
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would be like, I ain't coming. Because
I just want to pray today and
make sure that the reason I'm coming
is not because of ego or because
I feel called or whatever.
Ti’heasha Beasley (14:21):
So when you say you're not coming,
elaborate on that showing up.
Pastor Jason Parks (14:24):
I don't care what it is showing
up to.
Ti’heasha Beasley (14:26):
Well, what if it's her job?
Pastor Jason Parks (14:27):
If it's my job, I'm taking a
PTO day.
Ti’heasha Beasley (14:30):
Okay?
Pastor Jason Parks (14:31):
Because, I mean. And I. I'm not
even really trying to be funny. Like,
if they're. If I get a sense
that I'm just showing up to show
up, there's no joy. There's nothing there.
And it's all about my stress, my
whatever, whatever. I need to take a
day. And it is the very reason
God gives us the Sabbath. Like, we
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stop honoring that Sabbath. He wants that
time to be a regimented part of
our day. We have to be consistent.
So I'm going, if. If I find
myself running, I'm going to take that
PTO day. And I'm going, just turn
off the tv, no social media, anything,
and say, let me just make sure
I'm in the right place. Because I
want it to be from a place
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of overflow. I want to be a
place from God's work and his call
not toil.
Ti’heasha Beasley (15:19):
That's good.
Tiffany Hines (15:20):
If I could add to that. Another
thing that even if you feel like
God has you right in the middle
is exactly exhaustion.
Pastor Jason Parks (15:28):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (15:29):
Like, when you're just exhausted with it
because, like, thinking it through and this
is my personality, I will go hard
and hard in something that I'm passionate
about. And I don't realize it, but
all of a sudden it's switched into
my own strength, and I'm tired, and
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I actually don't want to do something
that I actually really love to do
because they're just tired, like. And so
I think that when you're trying to
figure out, even with God giving you
an assignment that grace that doesn't mean
that you're not gonna have opposition, that
it's gonna always be easy. But if
you're, like, exhausted, it's a really big
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sign that you're now switched into, like,
your own strength, my own strength. And
now, like, I'm ready to end it.
And so I think the last year
I've been trying to be way more
intentional where if I'm starting to feel
exhausted, I'm taking a break from singing,
like, putting out music. So in the
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middle of recording a song, I'm like,
I just keep feeling a nudge. I'm
not supposed to do it, and I'm
not gonna do it right now. I
want to be obedient to God. It's
exhausting. Which means the marketing is going
to be bad. Everything, all the things,
like, it's okay, like, and so, like,
that's fine. I'm feeling like God doesn't
want me to do the podcast. It's
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exhausting me mentally. There's no joy there.
Not this podcast.
Ti’heasha Beasley (16:57):
Sorry, but she's talking about this podcast.
Tiffany Hines (17:00):
Absolutely not. But doing a podcast that
I knew, I knew God gave it
to me, and it was vibrant and
stuff. But then it's like, okay, well,
God said this. So I got this
llc. I'm like, okay, well, he gave
these different sectors and I started doing
it all at the same time. And
I was just tired because. Timing.
Ti’heasha Beasley (17:22):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (17:22):
You know, and so that kind of
stuff and those signs of like, I
don't even want to do this anymore.
When you actually had joy in it,
it's like you're tapping into your own
strength.
Ti’heasha Beasley (17:34):
What I can say to those things
as well is I feel like as
a culture, we have this mentality that
God gave me this thing and it's
supposed to happen tomorrow. A lot of.
A lot of times what I've learned
in my own personal journey is he
will show you so you can start
preparing and he can start growing you
and he can start teaching you and
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aligning things, but it doesn't mean right
now. So even for myself, I wrote
a book, like, two years ago, Dear
sis, you can live free. And God
was. Praise God. And literally the next
month, God was like, so. So put
it down. What. What about marketing? What
about the motivation? Like, you have to
keep going. And he was like, no,
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it's not time. It. The writing the
book was an act of obedience. What
he wants me to do later, he
will reveal it in time.
Tiffany Hines (18:24):
Yeah.
Ti’heasha Beasley (18:24):
You know, and so I think you
have to. I believe that God is
the biggest strategist. I will say that
absolutely all day long, if you're tapped
into him and if you are putting
him first, he's going to give you
strategy on how to walk out, the
thing he called you to do. And
so I think not as a discouragement,
like I have. This thing is overwhelming
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me. I'm burnt out. Like my sister
said, like, you're doing it in your
own strength. When you tap into God,
when you put him first, he will
give you strategy on how to walk
that calling out. So you don't even
have to be in error, like, you
know, with the calling. It's just that
you're not listening to.
Tiffany Hines (19:05):
God and God will do a switch
up on you and you're like, I
thought we were going this way, and
all of a sudden I'm like, why
does this feel different? Like, you done
did a switcheroo, Lord, and didn't tell
me. So now I'm trying to figure
it out. So that thing of being
able to be flexible and guided by
the Lord in case he, like you,
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didn't know he was about to make
a turn. But I will say a
sign that has been encouraging along the
way with those twists and turns. If
I'm doing all of that, that means
that I'm still in the car. So
even, like, if it's moving around and
you feel like God, this assignment or
that, like, I can't tell. But if
you're still in the car and you
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still got the wheel, even though it's
turning, that still means that you're, like,
in the car. So being able to
identify with God, like, and along this
road, like, what is going on? Like,
am I doing something out of my
own strength? Is something taking priority over
you? Like, please show me, but also
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be encouraged, like, as a Christian, that
you're still in the car.
Ti’heasha Beasley (20:11):
You're still in the car. You're still
in the game.
Tiffany Hines (20:13):
Still in the game.
Ti’heasha Beasley (20:14):
Maybe just a different strategy. You were
going to say something, jp.
Pastor Jason Parks (20:17):
I just. What I'll add.
Ti’heasha Beasley (20:21):
I had to say that.
Pastor Jason Parks (20:22):
I know. I'm just. We just going
to get over it. It's fine. You
can call me jp. It's all good
from now on. One of the things
I've learned throughout this, and I want
to make sure I encourage someone about
something that came to me. But first,
you know, in our journey, we oftentimes,
in terms of, like, church folks, we
know, like, we pray and all this
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about the devil keeping things from us.
So in our culture, we're striving and,
oh, he's keeping this from me, and
he's keeping this from me. And you
keep going, and you keep going and
keep going. Well, often one of the
things that the enemy will also do
is push you too far too fast.
So we always are fighting and rebuking
and telling him to let stuff go.
But sometimes he has his hand in
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our back saying, yeah, you can do
it. Yeah, you need to do this.
Look at all this skill you have.
And it's another form of deception where
he. He does not want us to
see that when God says, okay, do
something. If you don't have a new
assignment, keep doing that assignment. So he'll
move you off of the current assignment.
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Because that's where God's fruit Is that's
where he wants to form you. He
keep going, do more. And so in
our culture, we have. That's why I'm
just going to harp on this. We
have to keep that space of prayer.
We have to keep that space in
the word, because Lord will reveal himself
in that. That's where he's going to
reveal himself. Can he use a TV
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show? Can he use a podcast? Absolutely.
Can he use TikTok? Absolutely. But without
a doubt, his confirmed word, his revelation
in prayer and in the Bible. So
I just want to encourage, you know,
even if you missed it, I love
what Tiff said. Even if you missed
it, God is so gracious that he
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will even help. Crooked paths, straight. Let's
say you got on the wrong path
and it's crooked. He'll straighten it up
to point right back to his will.
If you just settle yourself and say,
you know what? I missed it. I'm
sorry, I missed it. I want to
hear you. Let me pause. And he'll
get you back on the right path.
Ti’heasha Beasley (22:26):
That was good. I do have a
question I wanted to. To ask. You
know how in. In scripture it talks
about Jesus asking the rich young ruler
to surrender his wealth? What do you
feel moving away from that, that theme
of money? How does that look in
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your life? Has God asked you to
surrender something that was actually thriving? You
was winning in this area, and God
was like, give it up. How does
that look? Or are you currently in
it?
Tiffany Hines (23:02):
Tyisha, tell us. Tell us what you
feel.
Ti’heasha Beasley (23:05):
No, I'm just saying.
Tiffany Hines (23:07):
So I have this one thing that
happened years ago. So I've been praying.
I was like, in my late 20s,
I had been praying for a new
car, and I didn't know how. I
definitely didn't have the money for a
car note. So I had just been
praying about one. And so we had
some pastors that used to go here,
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and they came to me and was
like, hey, we have this car. I
don't know if someone say, like, dropped
it off or something. And so they
were like, you know, if you want
it. And so I'm like, oh, my
gosh, this is an answer prayer. I'm
serving in our youth ministry. And there
was a girl who's like my same
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age, and so she's around the circle
and she's asking for prayer because she
needs a car. And so we're praying
for her. And I just like, God's
like, offer her that car.
Ti’heasha Beasley (24:03):
Oh, my goodness.
Tiffany Hines (24:04):
I was like, dang.
Ti’heasha Beasley (24:08):
So you needed the car, too?
Tiffany Hines (24:09):
Yes, I needed the car. And so
I'm like, I can't believe you want
me to give this car away. So
I didn't say it to her because
it wasn't my car to give right
away. So I went to them, to
the pastor, like, hey, the car that
you wanted to give me. I'm like,
I felt like the Lord said for
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this other person, you know. And so
they were like, okay, but it's not
your car to give. So with that,
you know, they pretty much were letting
me know that we had you say
in mind, but you don't have to
worry about that. So then they asked
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me again, so would you want the
car? And I was like, yes. And
so what I felt like I learned,
not what I felt like, what I
learned in that was simply be obedient.
Kind of like with Isaac and his
father Jacob. The Lord knew he wasn't
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going to have him kill his son,
but he just wanted to see if
he was going to be obedient. Oh,
right, sorry. As we talking about the
word, Abraham and Isaac. So he just
wanted to see if he would listen.
And so that was like a. It
was like a hard moment, but it
wasn't too hard because I was already
like in this place. So I just
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want to do what you want. And
they told me like, well, ain't your
car anyway to give, so if you
don't take it, we're gonna give it
to someone else. Like, well, I'll take
it. And then I had a car
and it was about obedience. So.
Ti’heasha Beasley (25:48):
Wow, that's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (25:52):
Well, my one. One of the areas
is less tangible, which I think, you
know, I want to. I want to
mention for me and treasure the riches,
it really boils down to an area
of comfort that you are putting ahead
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of God. Okay, so I want to
start by saying that. And for a
long time I put comfort around me
knowing things. My ability to figure it
out, to know all of the x's
and y's and dots and crossing t's
and all of that. And so for
the last three years that I'm aware
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of, God probably was trying to get
my attention before this, but he has
put in me such an uncomfortable position
where I don't know what's happening in
my life past maybe a month or
a week. And what I mean by
that is, I don't know, like, I
have had to have faith around so
many different areas. Not just in my
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finances there too, but within my career,
within how I parent, how the type
of husband I am within the church
and pastoring people And I. I've walked
into more conversations that are beyond my
experience. I don't know the answer, but
the person on the other side of
me is looking for an answer. And
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in that moment, I've had to set
aside my intellect and pray and say,
lord, I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know what they're talking about.
They lost me about three minutes ago,
I'm just telling you. And so my
intellect, my experience, education, none of that
has been thrown out the window, Especially
when it comes to ministry within my
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gifts. It's things coming out of me
the Lord is doing that I did
not practice for. I don't have a
frame of reference. I'm reading, I'm asking.
I'm just like, well, Lord, what are
you doing? And so I believe that
there's going to come a time for
all of us where the Lord is
going to say, well, do you trust
me or do you? I mean, you
could do it yourself, but for me,
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it's been the area of faith and
trust in every area. It's like he
is taking away all the comforts and
trying to rebuild me into a new
person. And so, you know, I'll let
y'all know next month where I am
and who I am.
Ti’heasha Beasley (28:21):
I mean, anyway, yeah, I feel that
for you. And I'm just playing.
Pastor Jason Parks (28:26):
I just be like, I'm just out
here, y'all. I'm just.
Ti’heasha Beasley (28:29):
We all out here. I mean, the
older I get, the more mature I
get. I realize that the people I
looked up to, that I felt like
had it all together. They have it
all together. Everybody out here winging it
with the grace, winging it, Getting up
every morning like, okay, God, let me.
Let me go out and do what
I did yesterday. But, you know, I
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feel like new grace, new mercies. Like,
when he does something new, he gives
grace for that and he gives mercy
for that. And so we. If we
are the same person we were five,
10 years ago, then that's a problem.
He's stretching all of us and calling
new things out of us for what
he needs in this time. So praise
(29:12):
God for that. Yeah. Any.
Pastor Jason Parks (29:17):
I thought you had something right.
Ti’heasha Beasley (29:18):
Right? You had this look like. Yeah,
let me tell you. No, I'm sorry.
Tiffany Hines (29:22):
No, you go ahead.
Ti’heasha Beasley (29:24):
No. So I love the quote that
Pastor Brent used in his sermon. He's
by A.W. towser. God is exalted in
the right place in our lives. A
thousand problems are solved all at once,
man. Who could testify to that? What
does that look like in Your everyday
life. Let's start with jp. I'm sorry.
(29:47):
We're gonna stay there. We're gonna stay
with the jp. You should have never
said it. That's your nickname from now
on.
Pastor Jason Parks (29:53):
It's fine. It's fine. It's not a
problem. Okay. It really boils down to
me about priority and clarity that the
Holy Spirit gives, especially in times of
stress and overwhelm. What it looks like
in my life is, you know, especially
when it comes to, like, I'm trying
to build a career, but at the
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same time, I'm trying to, you know,
be present in ministry. I'm trying to
be a present father. And I'm like,
well, how am I do this? How
am I be here? How am I
be there? And I'm going to keep
underscoring this, that those times, my treadmill
is my like, special time. I just
get on the treadmill and I go
on a prayer walk inside my house.
But in those moments, he puts in
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order what I need to recognize and
do something about versus what he's working
on. And it'll be worked out. And
in my mind, it's just all in
the front. It's like everything has the
same amount of weight. And he just
says, actually, no, focus on this. I'll
take care of that. Or, that should
not even be your concern. You're taking
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on a weight that was not meant
for you.
Ti’heasha Beasley (31:00):
That's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (31:01):
And so the thousand problems are solved
at the same time is because you
realize that they're not actually problems in
the first place. So I'm again, I'm
learning on the fly. Like, when I'm
getting ready to do something, it's like,
no, that's actually, that's a good idea.
But that's not God's idea. That's something
you should do in theory, but that's
(31:23):
not what you're about to do. And
so a thousand things come down to
priority and order. And God gives that
clarity when I'm. I'm in that time
with him, you know, and some stuff
he works out along the way. Again,
I like plans. And then sometimes he
just says, walk, take one step. The
(31:43):
steps of a good man are ordered
by the Lord. They are put before
you. I'm going to be a lamp
to your feet and a light to
your path.
Ti’heasha Beasley (31:51):
That's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (31:51):
So I'm going to show you where
you need to step. And then there
are times I'm going to show you
where to go. Sometimes you just going
to get one or the other, not
both. And so the things that are
down the path. Don't worry about that.
I'm not. You're not there yet. I'm
there, but you're not there yet. So
that's what it looks like, at least
for me.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:11):
That's good.
Tiffany Hines (32:12):
I'm good. I was so, like, listening
to you. I honestly don't even fully
remember the quote, so I don't have
to read it again.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:21):
Do you want me to read it
again, sis? Okay. Because I just feel
like it was a good quote.
Tiffany Hines (32:27):
You, like.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:29):
As God is exalted to the right
place in our lives, a thousand problems
are solved all at once. So what
does that look like in your life?
So is there a season where you
were in the middle of some stresses
and you focused on God, you aligned
with God? She's like, no, I'm good.
Pastor Jason Parks (32:52):
He talked enough. It's fine.
Tiffany Hines (32:54):
Just, like, the different things. And some
things, it's a. It's an active trust
thing.
Ti’heasha Beasley (32:59):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (33:00):
As those problems kind of dissipate. So
that's what I'm trying to figure out,
because it's not. I feel like I
haven't had these just huge things that
have consistently happened, like, over my life.
But then the big thing is in
act like an active thing of casting
those cares or in fixing it on
(33:20):
God. And the more that I do
that, I'm seeing, like, the peace and,
like, the reassurance that, like, I got
you. And then even, like, having people
around me to remind me, like, that
part is a huge thing. And it's
funny, as Jason is the D.C. group's
(33:40):
pastor, just thinking through when you're still,
like, walking through it, trying to keep
your eyes fixed on God, but it's
still hard, you know, when you have
prayers. I was saying to my accountability
partners that, like, we've been riding Ride
or die, praying for each other. Got
(34:02):
prayerless. Everything I'm seeing stuff get scratched
off theirs. I'm like, this is great.
I'm like, not one of the things
on my list has been scratched off.
Ti’heasha Beasley (34:13):
Oh, God, not one.
Tiffany Hines (34:15):
So it's just kind of like, okay,
help me to keep my eyes fixed
on you. Let me check some stuff
within my soul, which I've been doing
in that space, but it's literally an
active place of fixing my eyes and
seeing them more this fast has been
like, I have, like, dove into God's
Word in a way that I had
not experienced before, and stuff just started
(34:37):
connecting. Like, I enjoy reading the Word
in a way that I have because
I'm seeing it transform and I look
Forward to it because my eyes are
getting more fixed on it and like
those problems are starting to become just
small because I really want to just
be close to Christ and know him
(34:57):
so well. Like every time I open
the Word, it's like, okay, I'm about
to like dive into something that I
already read before, but now it's like
planted in my heart. So that's the
thing that, that for me, where I
am at, that's an active thing.
Ti’heasha Beasley (35:14):
That's good. It kind of leads me
to my next question. When we think
about putting the Word of God into
practice, what are some applications that we
can give the viewers to start implementing
in their life? Right to if they
are looking, they're listening to the conversation,
they listen to the sermon and they're
(35:35):
like, you know what? I've put money
before you, I've put this career, I
put this assignment before you, God, I
want to realign. Like what are some,
some things they can start doing today?
Pastor Jason Parks (35:49):
I'm going say it again. The spiritual
disciplines.
Ti’heasha Beasley (35:52):
Okay.
Tiffany Hines (35:53):
Because come on, Disciples church. You better
keep us on brand here in the
Holy Spirit.
Pastor Jason Parks (36:01):
I'm just saying because we have to
fight the tendency to complicate what God
has made. Simple.
Tiffany Hines (36:09):
That's good.
Pastor Jason Parks (36:10):
God has made this really simple, that
His Word, like I said, is a
lamp to our feet and a light
to our path. His Word is like
a two edged sword. It is alive
and it speaks to us. It's so
fine and so effective that it can
split bone and marrow. It can tell
(36:31):
us the very thoughts and intent of
our heart. Yeah, but we would rather
rely on something else because it sounds
better. Maybe. So I just really focus.
I mean, Tiff just brought it out.
Like as we go into this Word,
we can recognize that this Word will
(36:52):
tell us the very thoughts and intent
of our heart and it will show
us. Oh, see, I did elevate this
above. I did want this thing more
than anything. And I wasn't seeking God.
Like for real, for real. The Word
would do that. And I've seen it.
And so that along with prayer allows
(37:13):
us to have a conversation with God
for us to cast our cares upon
him because he cares for us. And
in prayer he begins to illuminate things
to us and we learn how to
communicate. And then of course you gotta
be in a group. I think finding
people who truly know the Lord, who
are beyond kind of where you are
spiritually, you definitely need peers where we're
(37:36):
kind of walking together. But you need
someone who has walked that path already
and they're not impressed by money anymore.
They're not impressed by prestige. They already
bought a house. They're over that. They
already bought car. All of that is
over. But they can help you center
in on what God wants to do
in your life. Cause they see you
(37:56):
in a way you don't see yourself.
They see you in a more objective
way without as many emotions they should
be connected to emotionally. So the first
step is to reestablish a cadence where
prayer and Bible study and accountability, discipleship
(38:17):
is a regular fixture in your life.
And then from there, clarity comes and
you will start to see things diminish.
So wherever you are, again, we complicate
it and we try to find more
books, we try to find more videos,
more courses. When God has made His
Word so complete, where. When we start
(38:40):
there, then the other things confirm it.
Right? So I'm not saying don't listen
to a podcast, of course, or whatever,
but we have to start in the
Word. So the place to start is
there, because the Holy Spirit will give
you a rhema word, a very, very
present and relevant word for your life,
(39:00):
and then there will be confirmation in
that. And no one on the other
side of here can give you, you
know, prophetic words for you every single
day, but the Holy Spirit, absolutely every
day can give you your daily bread.
Tiffany Hines (39:14):
Yeah. As you were talking, and even,
like, with the. With the Word and
illuminating and the desire to learn more,
not just about His Word, but, like,
actually experience his glory, you know, in
a new way. And these examples, like
in the Bible and seeing the way
(39:37):
when God revealed His glory and what
happened to the person, it revealed to
how much they needed God. And like,
whoa, I can see myself descend in
my heart. That. And that was the
thing. I'm like, I desire to see
your glory in a way that allows
(39:58):
you to be glorified in a way
that I can see how much I
need you. And so when I think
about during. During the fast, and this
was the thing, like, God, I want
to experience these things that I haven't
experienced before, like something different. And. Sorry,
I have a little dry cough.
Ti’heasha Beasley (40:18):
It's okay.
Tiffany Hines (40:18):
And so during the. During the fast,
I'm talking, I'm spending some good time
with the Lord. And I have a
dream one night, and this artist, this
RB artist that I really like and
enjoy, I'll leave them nameless. But they're
a good vibe. Like, I really like
a good vibe. Really cool, chill. If
(40:40):
you can sing. Like, I. Yeah, so
I listen to them a lot and
other music like it. But they were
in my dream. And so I'm like,
so we were dancing in the dream.
Like, just kind of like dancing and
vibing. And what I remember is in
that I was in also another room.
And in that other room, like, I
(41:00):
had on a wedding dress and there
was a groom there, and I was
about to get married. So there's the
room there, the other room where I'm
like, hanging out with the artist. And
I find out, like, the artist, like,
actually is interested in me. So I'm
like, oh, really? You know, getting excited
about it. And so last minute, like,
(41:21):
right before the wedding, I was. Was
going back and forth, and I last
minute decided, I'm not going, Marina, I'm
gonna. I'm gonna go with Lucky. I
mean, well, the artist. Lucky day. So
I'm like, I'm gonna just go with
him.
Ti’heasha Beasley (41:36):
This was all a dream.
Tiffany Hines (41:38):
It was all a dream. So I'm
like, you know, I was happy. Like,
we could be together. We can, like,
write music, all the things. And I
was just like, in this dream. So
I am texting with a friend, and
she's asking how my fast is going.
I'm texting her, and I remember it
like, girl, last night I had this
(41:59):
dream and I'm telling her about the
artist and stuff like that. And as
I'm like typing or texting out it,
it was like I was texting her.
And as I'm texting this, the Lord
is revealing what this dream was. And
so he's revealing, you know, so I'm
the bride, which is the bride of
Christ. So God was Jesus. Jesus being
(42:20):
the groom, me, the bride, I decided
and chose to last minute. I'm not
gonna get married. I'm gonna, like, go
and be with this person. And it's
gonna be a good time. It's gonna
be fun. We're gonna fight, that kind
of thing. And it was like the
Lord showing me, like, in your heart,
you still love the world. And so
(42:42):
I'm like. Because of the desire that
was so, like, fierce in my heart
during that fast. And then post that
was. And God showed me as I
want. Like, he's gonna show his glory,
but this way that he's like, hey,
these things are in your heart. And
you prayed about this in these examples.
(43:04):
And he, like, showed me a space.
So I was just like, dang.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:11):
Dang.
Tiffany Hines (43:12):
But very grateful. Grateful.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:13):
That's so funny.
Tiffany Hines (43:14):
Thank you, God, for me having this.
Because at first I was like, this
is a really weird dream to have
in a fast. But I knew it
was The Lord's love.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:23):
Exposing.
Tiffany Hines (43:24):
Exposing. Like I want to be exposed.
Like I don't want to be out
here.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:28):
Yeah.
Tiffany Hines (43:29):
Living one way when there's more, you
know, as a believer. So, yeah, it
revealed.
Ti’heasha Beasley (43:35):
Yeah. So let me see if I
can put both of these great responses
into one as we conclude our show.
If you are in a season where
God is exposing and revealing, as Pastor
Jason said, you want to get to
a place where you almost living with
your hands open and you're saying, God,
(43:55):
you order my steps, you lead me,
you guide me. I want to submit
even my own desires to you. That's
a good place to start. And also
I encourage you to go back and
watch the sermon. Pastor Brent did an
amazing job explaining exactly how we should
deal with these two masters in our
lives. And let us know just how
(44:18):
we could be praying with you. Share
this video with people who you just
want to encourage in this way because
we live in a world where busyness
is actually a popular thing right now.
It's applauded. And maybe this is a
season where God is telling you to
slow down because he wants to refine
you and shape you and get you
ready for that, that next assignment. So
(44:39):
just align your heart back to Christ
and we hope this episode blessed you.
Let us know, we know you, you
watch between sermons, but let us know
in the comments what your thoughts are
about this episode. And we are just
praying God's blessings over you. So until
we meet again, thank you guests for
joining us. Any last words? Where can
we find you guys on social media?
(44:59):
How can we connect? Yep, we're doing
it. I'm in charge of media, so
we're doing it.
Tiffany Hines (45:07):
So my IG is Tiffany Hines music.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:11):
Awesome.
Tiffany Hines (45:11):
But I'm also like on a six
month hiatus.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:14):
You fit in my social, but it's
okay.
Tiffany Hines (45:18):
But I mean, once I'm back on,
so. Yep. Tiffany Hines.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:21):
Yes. Awesome.
Pastor Jason Parks (45:23):
I'm out here somewhere. I'm on TikTok
more. So you went.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:28):
You went viral recently, you and your
wife.
Pastor Jason Parks (45:34):
Mr. Jason T. Parks is usually what.
What the handle is. So just, I'm.
I'm out here somewhere.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:40):
Did God give you strategy on how
to go viral? I just. The people
want to know. All right.
Pastor Jason Parks (45:47):
Till we meet again.
Ti’heasha Beasley (45:49):
Till you meet again. Don't serve two
masters.
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