You Gotta Believe: Discovering Purpose Through Teamwork

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Pastor Brent McQuay (00:00):
Foreign. Welcome to another episode of Between
Sermons where we get to take the
message from Sunday and turn that monologue
into real dialogue, where we get to
get a little bit more into maybe

(00:21):
what this would look like if we
were a small group and we were
having a conversation about the message and
how it applies into our lives. And
so in order to have that conversation,
though, we need some other people in
the room. And so. Hi, Taisha.

Ti’heasha Beasley (00:34):
Hi.

How's my wonderful co host doing?

I am well. Did you have a
good birthday chat gbt? I did.

What was chat gbt?

It felt like our dialogue was very
chat GPT robotic. No, it was good.
My birthday was good. I had a
nice couple days off. So I'm ready
for the conversation noise. Yes. And today
to help us with this conversation, we
have Marcus Ivy in the building. Hey,
is that why you wore your DC

(01:03):
shirt? You knew we're going to be.

Marcus Ivy (01:04):
This is just a real comfortable shirt.
Whoever picked out the material did a
good job.

Shout out to the merch team. Shout
out to. Pretty in the room.

Marcus Ivy (01:12):
Yep. Very comfortable.

Yeah. So how was your weekend? Fourth
of July fireworks. What happened?

Yeah, so my weekend was weird and
kind of.

Yeah.

Kind of unusual. So we had the
celebration of life service for. Yeah, my
grandma. We did it in Michigan on
Wednesday and then spent some time with
family, then drove back. So we celebrated
the fourth here. But then Saturday, it
was immediately we had a second service
for my grandma and grandpa. Grandpa passed
during COVID Like literally the day that

(01:43):
it was like nationwide lockdown.

Wow.

Was the day he passed. And so
we didn't really get an opportunity to
celebrate him and his life. And so.
Yeah, so kind of not exactly like
the most festive 4th of July, I
guess, but. But it was good. You
know, I think part of it too.
We. We got to celebrate with more
family than would be normal just because
people came in. So my brother, my

(02:07):
sister, my uncle, their families all. All
came together.

Yeah.

That made it cool.

Yeah, it was good. It was. Well,
it was nice to see your entire
family here together.

Yeah. Some people right now are like,
wait, there's a brother?

Yeah. And, you know, my son has
already looked up your brother.

Has he? Oh, yeah. He's he's probably
has an IMB page, right? Yeah. So.
So my brother works in the television
industry. A bunch of different shows. He
started off on the accounting side of
things and then he's kind of worked
his way into more of the producer.

Yeah.

Role of things. And so, yeah, be
praying for him. He's got two possible
shows but one of them he doesn't
really want to do, and one of
them he would love to do, but
it hasn't been greenlit yet. So somebody
tell Amazon to get on that.

Yes, Amazon, get on it now. Now.
Prayer warriors. I know. Yeah. Your friends
are like, thanks, bro.

But yeah. So 4th of July was
good. My dog was born on July
3rd, so we got to celebrate him.

Good job, Duffy.

Uhhuh. So I'll never forget your birthday.

Yes, we share a birthday. You share
a birthday with Duffy?

Yeah. You didn't call him on his
birthday? I mean, I text you on
your birthday. You didn't text him.

Wait, and your text was like, I
heard. A little birdie told me it
was your birthday. Okay. Tweet, tweet, tweet.

Marcus Ivy (03:26):
Oh, the Facebook bird. No, that's Twitter.

Twitter. Twitter's gone.

You know, I'll never know what to
do.

Like, happy birthday.

Marcus Ivy (03:34):
Right.

But no, it was a good. How
was your fourth?

Marcus Ivy (03:37):
It was cool. We had planned this
awesome luau.

Okay.

Marcus Ivy (03:43):
My wife had multiple Amazon boxes come
to the house.

Okay.

Marcus Ivy (03:48):
Which are probably still there, which we
never used, because at the last minute,
kind of the last minute, we was
like, you know what? We just want
to chill.

So you canceled the party?

Marcus Ivy (03:56):
Yeah, we canceled the party. Yeah.

Did you cancel the party or did
you guys cancel the party?

Marcus Ivy (04:00):
No, she actually canceled the party. Yeah,
see, I had nothing to do with
the cancellation on that. So we just
kind of sit back. So we just
kind of.

Amazon's really good at returns, man.

Marcus Ivy (04:09):
I'm just saying. Yeah, but she already
got ideas for her plans. Yeah, she
got plans. So we're gonna have a
luau one one of these days. So
we just kind of hijacked the neighbors.
So we hijacked the neighbors music, their
fireworks and their barbecue smells. They smell
chilled in the backyard. I threw some
kebah. I didn't want the tradition. No

(04:30):
ribs and brats and all that stuff.
So I just did, like, some steak,
chicken, and salmon kebabs.

Okay.

Okay.

That sounds good. Yep.

Marcus Ivy (04:39):
And just hijacked the neighborhood's festivities.

Festivities. That is some real grown up
stuff. Like, you know what? We want
to chill today. Party cancel.

Marcus Ivy (04:48):
It's over with.

I. I will say I. I did
the cooking for our Fourth of July,
and apparently my. My baked Mac and
cheese was so good, my sister took
it on the plane with her to
go back to Florida.

Yes.

So, like, when you get somebody to
take your Mac and cheese, cross state
lines, you know, it was worth eating.

So I've never had your Mac and
cheese, because I can't do dairy. But
a couple times, you know, when there's,
like, community activities there. I've seen it,
and it looked like. I don't know
if I can say this. It looked
like black people.

Marcus Ivy (05:21):
He got that so mad.

I believe.

Let me say this. I believe that
I should be invited to the cookout.
Just going to put that out there.

Marcus Ivy (05:29):
If you got Mac like that, you
can come.

It look like it can hang with
some big dogs.

I make my sauce. There are spices
and seasonings in it. Okay, come on
in.

Marcus Ivy (05:39):
It's flavorful.

Okay, let's go.

Noodles is cooked. I mean, it look
like it can roll.

Marcus Ivy (05:45):
But he's bringing the word in.

He bring the word in. Could cook
some macaroni.

And I think that's all we need
to cover for the podcast today.

No, that. I think that this is
fitting for just the fun series we
have right now, which is at the
Movies.

Yeah. Yeah.

Our church, DC, we love @ the
Movies. And so now we're in this
new series. And you've kind of had
this great idea to model the movies
we've chosen for this series to go
with the get in the Game campaign.
So, yeah, it was.

It was kind of funny. It was
one of those where we kind of
stumbled into it. So we. I think
we had a list of, like, 20
movies.

Yeah.

That we could do. Now, I will
be on record as saying 2024 was
a really bad year for movies. Like,
it was like, all the movies on
our list were like, there was no
big blockbuster movies. There's no big moments.
It was all like, what went straight
to Netflix and Amazon. Like, it was
everything.

Yeah.

I think the only thing that was,
like, big was what Wicked was on
there. And we're like.

Yeah.

And so I was looking at our
list of, like, these twins, 20 movies,
and at least half of them were,
like, sports related.

Yeah.

And I was like, yeah, I think
there might be something there.

I think we could.

I think we could do something. We
could salvage this bad year for movies.

Yeah.

But, yeah, I mean, at one point
we talked about turning into, like, at
the Movies classics or something, because it
was like, the movie list was so
weak.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, but I think we landed on
four good ones.

Yeah, it was. And the one you
did yesterday, you gotta believe. I think
it was good. Have you seen the
full movie?

I haven't.

Marcus Ivy (07:26):
I haven't.

Okay.

Marcus Ivy (07:27):
I need to watch it. But just
looking at some of the clips, it's
like, man. So I can watch this
by myself.

Yes.

Marcus Ivy (07:34):
It's one of those. Yeah, with the
tissues, kind of.

Because you don't want to. You don't
want to lose your car.

I mean, there should be something about
a dad who's dying and his kids,
his boys.

Marcus Ivy (07:45):
Yeah, that'll just send me over. So.

Yeah, it was tough. Yeah, definitely tough.
But it's. It's a. It's a really
good movie. I don't even remember where
you can watch it.

It might be on Netflix, I believe
it's Netflix.

Yeah, I know, I know. A bunch
of people left service and went home
and watched it. So it's available somewhere.

Yeah, you need to become like an
influencer, because I promise you, every time
you say something like ice cream.

Marcus Ivy (08:06):
Right.

Right now we got Churro Sundays. That
meat masher, man, the number of people
that got a meat masher.

Listen, let me start working on some
campaigns for you, okay?

You need that Amazon affiliate link for
every time I talk about something.

So how did you. How did you
choose this movie? Or maybe a better
question, how does this movie relate to
get in a Game? What was kind
of like the setup there?

Yeah, so. So obviously the movie. It's.
It's a baseball movie.

Yeah.

Reminds me a lot of Sandlot, which
just. I think that right there, like,
the fact that they had the. The
Ham Porter cameo, like, I was just
like, oh, this is gonna be good.

Yeah.

And so just watching this group of
underdogs who are struggling to kind of.
It's like that classic story. They're struggling
to figure out who they are, where
they fit on the team. The team
is trying to do something that is
really beyond their reach. And yet, because
they come together as a team, they're
able to get a lot further than
people would expect. Try not to spoil

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the end.

Yeah, right.

But what I loved about the movie
was just that team dynamic. And it.
Like, I don't know if you guys
played sports when you're kids, but, like,
I played baseball as a kid, and
there's just. There's something just amazing about
the team coming together. And so watching
that and just thinking about where we
are as a church and, I mean,
yesterday was a pretty good indication that,

(09:27):
like, we have to add another service.
If you came to the 11 o'
clock service, hopefully you got a parking
space and were able to come into
the building because sadly, we had a
bunch of people that they circled around
and everybody had already double parked and
parked on the curbs and in the
grass and everywhere that you could possibly
fit a vehicle. And we had people
that literally had to leave and not

(09:47):
be able to get into service, which
that just. Yeah, somebody's trying to go
to church and they can't. Like that's
just, that's awful.

Yeah.

And so as we're trying to figure
out, okay, how do we add another
service? How do we, we maximize our
building more? Like, we know that we
need people that are not currently serving
to step into that role if we're
going to pull this off. And so
it really, it became like this movie
became the, the perfect bridge between the
get in the game series and the

(10:16):
start of the, at the movie series.
The rest of them, even though there's
team dynamics, they might not be quite
as get in the game as this
one, but it just, it felt like
just the perfect bridge.

Yeah. So I do have some questions
here, Marcus. When you think about the
title, you Gotta Believe is such a
bold statement. What does it really mean
to, to believe in something bigger than
yourself and how has that helped shape
your life as a believer?

Marcus Ivy (10:44):
Wow, that's a banger right off of
the. How do I say that? And
say that again. Bring it, bring it.

Come here. One minute, one minute. Slow
it down.

Marcus Ivy (10:53):
Yeah, slow it down, slow it down.

So when someone says, like, you gotta
believe, how does that correlate to believing
in something bigger than you?

Marcus Ivy (11:00):
You gotta believe. I think when that's
presented to you, you have to move
yourself out of the way.

Way.

Marcus Ivy (11:06):
Because when, when, when I have to
believe on my own strength or anything
like that, I'm coming up with excuses,
I'm coming up with my insecurities, I'm
coming up everything. So, so, you know,
it's almost. I don't know if I
can say that on here. I believe
I can fly, that type of thing,
you know. No, no. Shout out to
him or whatever, but that, that, that
just coming out of who you are

(11:27):
to really tapping into what, what do
you believe in? Because I, you know,
myself, I can't do anything. But if
I, you know, if I come out
of my comfort zone, all those things
that we've been talking about, that, that
belief and how has it shaped my,
my, my walk, my Christianity is, is
not doing it on myself, not, not
doing it on my own, really believing
in God, really believing, allowing Holy Spirit

(11:50):
to have his way in me, just,
just really believing. And it's not, it
may sound cliche, ish, but it's the
truth. Not believing on my own strength
and saying, you know what? I can't
do this. I can't do anything without
him. So that belief. Yeah, Just that
total belief and knowing that God is

(12:10):
going to do everything. That's more than
I can imagine or possibly dream about.

Yeah. No, that's good. Pastor Brent. So
we have a vision here for Disciples
Church. Like, how does that correlate with
moving people to get involved, to help
that vision?

Yeah. So, you know, our vision statement
is these four things. We stole the
language from another church, church of the
Highlands, and then just kind of tweaked
it a little bit for our context.
But it's a very biblical statement. You
see these four things kind of repeated
in several places in the Bible, in
the Old Testament, and in the New

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Testament that it really becomes these four
things that it seems like God just
really wants for everyone. And so the
four things are that you would know
God, find freedom, grow in purpose, and
make a difference. And so the, the
where this ties in is in that
making a difference. That inside each of
us, we've been designed, we've been knit

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together with this core, I don't know,
driving force that we want to matter.
Like, it's, It's. It's present in everybody.
Some people feel it stronger than others.
Some people will try and suppress it.
And for a lot of people, though,
what happens is the longer you go
in life ignoring it, the more just
empty and kind of lost that you're

(13:30):
feeling, which for me, like watching the
movie. So the, the two main coaches,
the two main characters, you got the
dad who's got terminal cancer, and you've
got his best friend that he's grown
up with, and on all this. And
the, the best friend is kind of
in a place in life where he's
just going through the motions. Right? It's.
He works for this law firm, but
it's just always filling out paperwork and

(13:51):
doing stuff like not feeling fulfilled. But
because he's watching his friend face the
end of his life, it's causing him
to start and think through, like, what
am I actually doing with my life?
My friend is about to die. He
doesn't have a tomorrow, but I still
do. Like, what am I doing with
it? And I think in that, in
this movie, it really, it sparked for

(14:13):
me just that desire to. To want
to make a difference that, that you
want your life to matter. You don't
want to just take up space. You
want to do something. And I use
the, The John Maxwell quote. It's one
of my favorite. I mean, anything by
John Maxwell is.

Going to be a banger. Yeah.

But one is too small a number
to achieve. Greatness is just. Oh, it
is so good. And I think that's
the reality of life, is you were
created with this urge and this desire
to make a difference, but you can't
do it by yourself. Like, you have
to have a team. And you can
go all through history and every person
that you point at and be like,

(14:50):
but they did amazing things. I promise
you.

They had a team.

There was a team of people around
them.

Yeah.

Michael Jordan wasn't on the court by
himself. Steve Jobs wasn't making the iPhone
by himself. Like, there's been somebody either
behind the scenes or right next to
them. There's been other people involved because
that's how God designed us. It's. You
get a part, and you get a
part, and it doesn't actually work until
you put the parts together.

Marcus Ivy (15:14):
Yeah. I like how you kind of
spoke about yesterday, you know, you being
a speak. You know, you being a
pastor, but it takes the production to
do this, and it takes other people,
other layers to do things. You know,
that was. That was amazing because, you
know, first of all, we're not in
it by ourselves. And just having that
support around you, it takes what God
has given you further. And no matter

(15:35):
what, not just being a preacher, but
no matter what it is, if you're
a giver, you bring other people around.
You just give more. So that was
an awesome way. I love how you
put that.

It's like this podcast right now. There's
three of us on screen having a
conversation, but there's two people behind the
cameras that if they weren't doing their
part, this wouldn't happen. But then there's
also a team. There's Brett, who's gonna
be actually uploading things, and it's like,
so we could do all. We could
all do our job, but if Brett
doesn't do his job, don't even matter.

(16:07):
It's like, oh, oops, you guys recorded
a podcast. Awesome. It's sitting on a
hard drive somewhere.

Good luck.

Yeah. Like, so. Like, it's. It's really.
It's when everybody starts doing their part
together that. That good things happen.

Yeah.

And so. Yeah. So the phrase that
we use in Growth Track, which shout
out to anybody that's listening right now
that hasn't been to Growth Track. Marcus
is waiting for you.

Marcus Ivy (16:29):
Let's go.

In fact, this coming Sunday will be
step two, which, unapologetically, I tell everyone
is the best step.

Marcus Ivy (16:36):
Yeah.

Is my favorite step.

Marcus Ivy (16:41):
Step two kind of brings me back
to a moment when I was kind
of first saved, and it was that
kind of watershed moment. One of my
pastors used to say, and I was
at home and it was like, I'm
saved. Like, you know what? I'm, what
I'm excited about it being saved, but
what do I do with this salvation?
And so I'm like, literally on my
bed, like crying, like, what am I
supposed to be doing, what I supposed
to be doing? And it's just like

(17:02):
other people start coming along and, you
know, like my teaching gift was developed
and things like that. So it's to
get in the game and to know
what your gifting is, your spiritual gifts
and stuff like that. We told the
people who completed step one, like, next
week is going to blow your mind.
And it was cool because a lot
of them hadn't taken, haven't taken a

(17:22):
spiritual gifts test or personality test. So
it's like you get to that point
where you, you really see who you
are. And it's, it's a, it's a
small test, but it does amazing things.

I need to retake that test.

Yeah, come on. You actually should.

Marcus Ivy (17:37):
You can start. You can start.

So, so it's, that's actually kind of
a rabbit trail moment. But people should
like retake spiritual gifts tests and especially
personality profiles where spiritual gifts, you'll see
some fluctuation more so because of your
personality coming out like, and the, the
season of life you're in. But like
the personality, like, it really does, like,

(18:02):
your surroundings really do shape your personality
more than you realize.

Marcus Ivy (18:05):
Yeah.

And so, like, like naturally. So in
the, the personality profile we do, it's,
it's called the disc test and we
do a truncated version. You could take
the full version, you just have to
pay for it. But like, our shortened
version of it I think does a
pretty good job of giving you like
a kind of a ballpark of where
you are. But on that, that test,
in my natural setting, I'm probably a

(18:27):
cs like just naturally. But because I've
been in leadership roles for the last,
probably 15 years of ministry, most of
the time when I take personality profiles
today I'll either be a DC or
a cd. And it's because, like, the,
the requirements on me has caused certain

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things in me to come out stronger.
And so like you, you can actually
see, depending on where you're working, what
your responsibilities are, the relationships you're in,
you can actually see how your personality
can kind of fluctuate a little bit.

Marcus Ivy (18:58):
Yeah.

So, yeah, you should.

I'm scared to take it at this
point.

You don't want to know yourself.

I don't want to know I'm gonna
have to be held accountable to what
I know.

So that's. Step two is going to
be great. But I just realized I
brought that up for a reason. It's
because in step four, we have this
phrase that we break down that says,
I want to make a difference doing
something that makes a difference with people
who are making a difference. And so
really, that's, for me, that's. That's the
heart behind the message on Sunday. It

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was really just to. To get that
thought process across to people that, hey,
I. I do want to make a
difference, and I want to make a
difference doing something that makes a difference.
Like, I don't want to just make
a difference because I save people money
on their insurance.

Right.

Like, yeah, you made a difference, but
it's like, did it really matter at.

The end of the day?

But when you can make a difference
in somebody's life, that really matters for
all of eternity?

Yeah.

Like, I want to make a difference
doing something that. That makes a difference.
And then ultimately with people who are
making a difference, that it's. It's getting
on that team, it's getting around other
people, and you're using your gifts, and
they're using their gifts. And when you're
struggling, they can encourage you. When they're
struggling, you can encourage them. And it's
just. Teams are awesome. I love teams,

(20:11):
but I was baseball in elementary, football
in high school, and teams just been
my thing. And then the internship I
was part of. It was all team
based. And so we had teams that
were divided out into. And yeah, football.

Marcus Ivy (20:25):
Football my whole life, pretty much since
the age of six, throughout college.

Nice.

Marcus Ivy (20:31):
And then track. So being a team
has always been real important. Real important
to me.

Yeah. I was on a relay team,
actually, with a member of Disciples church.
We're in a four, man. I think
we did the 4x4, if I remember.

Wow.

I think he was the anchor.

Marcus Ivy (20:49):
He can cook, he can preach, he
can run.

Not no more. You know why I
can't run no more? Because you can
cook too good. I can cook too
good. He can't run no more.

That is so funny. No, I think
that's good. That team element is good.
I like how you. I like how
you brought that out from the message
yesterday. Like, we all play an important
role. Sometimes people can feel like their
role isn't significant or it doesn't matter.
And I love that you took time
to say, like, no like it does.
And roles change.

Marcus Ivy (21:20):
Yes. And because of the message, we
have so many People, you know, sometimes
it just takes that coach to like
kind of fire you up to get
those things on the inside going. Because
sometimes those are dorm. They just lay
their dormant and it's like, okay, what
I do. Sometimes you need someone to.
To kind of. Yeah. Pull it out.
You like, come on, let's do it.
You know, so I think we have.

(21:41):
That's what we have in a lot
of churches. People that's not really pulling
out to get, you know, like, come
on, let's. Let's get this. It's not
just for Sunday, but. Yeah. Although we
do need it for Sunday, but man,
let's get in the game. Let's do
this. Like, we got a lot to
do.

Yeah. What do you think? Some things
that hold. Like, I feel like in
2025 and I always go back to
here because I feel like the world
is just so different. Like just people
involvement in church and what positions people
want to play. Like, what do you
think holds people back from like really
joining a team? Like, what are some
roadblocks or some things that they may

(22:15):
encounter to be like, oh, no, I
want to be the leader of the
team. I don't want to just play
the team. Like, what are some things
that people may encounter when thinking about
joining a team?

Yeah, all kinds of stuff. We actually
did a wonderful series called get in
the Game.

Yeah.

Where we basically addressed the barriers for
that. Like, so we put limits on
ourselves of like, well, I can't do
this. We make excuses for why now's
not a good time to do this.
Or we just. Ultimately we're just like,
I'm too comfortable where I am and
I don't want to get uncomfortable by
doing things. And so I think that

(22:53):
those are still probably the three biggies.
Like, it's, it's the limits we place
on ourselves. It's the excuses we make.
And it's just that comfort, that battle,
man. I don't know if it's a
third world or a first world problem
or, or what, but it's just Americans,
man, we like to be comfortable.

Marcus Ivy (23:09):
Comfortable.

We do.

And serving is about the most uncomfortable
thing you can do. Yeah. And.

And it's, it's.

It's good. And you're going to get
benefits from it and you're going to
enjoy elements of it, but it still
requires you just to put comfort aside.

Yeah. Yeah.

Which this is a great sales pitch.
Everybody's going to be like, I can't
wait to go serve and be uncomfortable.

No. And I mean, I think that
comfort goes hand Hand in hand with
just. I don't want to say being
selfish because I don't. I think that
could be harsh. But we are kind
of like self.

We're selfish.

Marcus Ivy (23:41):
Yeah. We're selfish.

Selfish. I'm trying to say it's a
nice way.

Marcus Ivy (23:44):
We create our own silos. We invite
in who we want to invite in.
And we're selfish.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's the, it's the duality of
man. There, there's this internal battle where
we want to make a difference, but
we also want to be self centered
and self focused.

Yeah.

And it's just who's going to win?
You know, it's. It's in that battle,
like what happens. The battle between the
flesh and the spirit. The battle between
selfishness, self focus and, and the battle
of I want to make a difference.
Like it's, it's always raging.

Yeah.

And it's so much easier to be
selfish in 99.9 of situations. Like. Yeah.
And I don't think you're being harsh
in saying it or maybe I'm just
super harsh. But it's just the reality
of human beings.

Yeah.

Like we're selfish.

Marcus Ivy (24:29):
Get somebody else to do it. Yeah.

And you don't have to like, you
don't have to teach self centeredness. Like,
like babies come out. You're born with
that being like, it's about me now.

Yeah. Okay.

And so you, you actually, you have
to work at not being selfish.

Dying to your flesh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Take up your cross daily.

Daily.

Marcus Ivy (24:49):
Daily.

Have we done that, that message for
B1 make one yet? Like.

Yeah, we've talked about it.

Yeah, I know we've talked about it
over. But that would be like die
daily. Need to be like a host.

Marcus Ivy (25:02):
Welcome to Disciples Church.

People would just be beating down the
door. When can we get part two
of Die Daily. I need more.

No, I, it just came to me.
It's. Maybe God's speaking to me.

Maybe.

But I like how you used Ephesians
2 and 10 yesterday. It reminds us
that we created to do good work.
So how do you personally discern those
things that are good works for your
current season?

So I don't know how much discernment
is needed.

Yeah.

And that's, that's why I would like
the hesitation there. So like I think
the Bible like lays out a lot
of what the good works are. And
so we just, we do those things.
Things. It's, it's the. We keep talking
about them. We probably need to do
a series on the one another.

Yeah.

And there's a lot of. So there's
60, but some of them are like
duplicated.

Yeah.

He'll say, love one another a bunch
of times, but like, you never have
to, like, check in with the Holy
Spirit first. Like, should I really love
this person? Yeah, yeah, you should. You
should love them like Jesus loves them.
Like, that's part of, like the instruction.
Should I be generous? I don't know.
Holy Spirit, do you think I should
be generous? Yes. Yes, you should be

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generous. Like, and so, like, there's some
things that I think sometimes maybe we
over spiritualize or we kind of over
complicate, and it's just like, no, like,
you should just be doing, like, serve.
Serve the poor, serve the needy, take
care of the widows and the orphans.
Like, there's. There's a lot of good
works that, that are just very evident.
Share the gospel, care for people who

(26:45):
are hurting. You know, laugh with those
who laugh, but weep with those who
weep. Right. Like, so there's a. There's
a bunch of things that we just
need to be doing. And when it
comes though to like, man, what's the
specific thing that I'm wired for that.
Yeah, maybe you could say that that
requires more discernment. And I think that's
where, like going to something like growth

(27:06):
track is going to help. As you
figure out your wiring, it kind of
helps you figure out how you should
serve. I try and caution people that
like, that spiritual gifts test, personality profile
test is not going to tell you
where to serve.

Marcus Ivy (27:20):
Right.

But it will tell you how to
serve within the space. What tells you
where to serve is what are you
passionate about and what are you good
at? Like, more. More than anything else,
it's your passion and it's your gifting.
So like, and, and that passion, that
gifting, it could work with positive things
or negative things. Like, it could be
like, man, every time I see somebody
that's homeless, it breaks my heart and

(27:41):
I just, I'll end up thinking about
that person all day long. It's like,
okay, you should do something about that.

Yeah.

Like that's, that's. Clearly there's a passion
or drive for you to meet a
need in that, in that space and
so figure out what's the thing that
just. It bothers you in the world.

Marcus Ivy (27:55):
Yeah.

And do something about it.

Yeah.

Marcus Ivy (27:57):
I like the, the ending of that,
that scripture says, which God prepared in
advance for us to do.

That's good.

Marcus Ivy (28:05):
It's already been prepared, like from the
foundations of the world. Everything that we
are called to do. It's already been
prepared in advance. And it's that, doing
those things, research, kind of seeing who
am I? How am I wired? What
am I good at? What are my
passions and desires? It's already there. It's
like, Ragu, it's in there.

Ragu, it's in there. It's in there.

Marcus Ivy (28:25):
Come on, Ragu, we just got to
do it. It's already prepared.

Yeah. I like to say, say that
there are Brent shaped problems in the
world. Like God created this thing for
me to do, then he created me.
So like, it. It's not about me
trying to figure out what I want
to do. What was I made for?

Marcus Ivy (28:45):
Yep. Yep.

That's a whole. That's a whole message.
Cuz I.

Marcus Ivy (28:51):
What was I made for?

What was I made to do?

Marcus Ivy (28:53):
Yeah. Yeah.

Now I'm like, tayson, I got a.

T shirt that says I was made
for this.

Marcus Ivy (28:57):
Yeah.

And I get stopped every once in
a while when I'm wearing. And like,
what were you made for?

What are you. What are you made
for? Bring clarity so you just know
it.

I am so. I am today. I'm
confident in that. Tomorrow, who knows? But
no, because it was, it was something
I was thinking about in working on
the, on the message because I used
to. I used to always tell people
I'm a problem solver. And I am
like, that's, that's part of my gifting.
And it doesn't matter what the problem
is. If there's a problem, my brain

(29:27):
just will not stop until a solution
is found. It doesn't always have to
be a great solution. But as I
cannot stop until I find. All right,
this might work. All right, then we
can move on. But that's just, that's
just the way I've always operated. If
there's a problem, I come alive. If
there's no problems to solve, I actually
feel horrible. Like, I get bored. I

(29:51):
get easily sidetracked and distracted by stuff.
Like I got. I've got like, if
there's no problem to solve, like, I
got no drive. Like, I'm just like,
what's the point?

Marcus Ivy (30:00):
Did you play with Rubik's cubes?

Oh, yeah. So like, when I was
in. When I was in elementary school,
they took me and like four or
five kids out of the class to
go to this other room where like,
they literally just gave us boxes of
puzzles, like word puzzles, block puzzles, like
all kinds of weird things. And it
was. I have no idea what the
point of that, that class was, but
like, I always got skip classes and

(30:22):
we Got to do fun things. And
we took like our SATs at like
8. Like, it was fun, but so,
like, I've. I've just. That's the. The
drive to solve problems has just always
been there.

Marcus Ivy (30:31):
Yeah.

And so I always thought that that
was the. The thing. And then I
was around a bunch of people like,
no, Brent, you just. You got this
teaching gift. This teaching gift. I'm like,
I don't have a teaching gift. Like,
come on, stop it. And it just.
It never really felt like the right
thing. And then I realized that it's
actually. It's neither of those things. It's
clarity. But clarity comes across as problem
solving or teaching. Right, Right. Because. Because

(30:54):
what. What I'm trying to do is
I want to bring. There's a mess,
and I want to untangle the mess.

Yeah.

Or there's a. There's a scripture, and
I want to help you understand it.

Marcus Ivy (31:04):
Yeah.

Right. I want to bring clarity to
people, places, things. Things in scripture.

How did you get to this place?
Because I want to take the same
test.

So the. The clarity thing literally has
just been. In the last few months,
I've kind of been able to articulate
it.

Okay.

Like, to. To put a finger on
it and label it. It's clarity. And.
And honestly, you could ask the same
question to me in a year and
be like, I don't know what that
Brent was thinking. Like, that's not even
it. Like, here's what it really is.
Like, I don't know, man. We're still
figuring this out.

Go around the room. And I think.

And I do st. Standby. So I've.
I've. I've used this in teachings before
that when God gives you purpose, it's
like a jigsaw puzzle.

Yeah.

And he doesn't always give you all
the pieces at the same time.

That's true.

And so, like, you could be putting
together a picture and you're like, you're
looking at the number of puzzle pieces
you have. You're looking at what you're
putting together, and you're like, oh, you
gave me a 50 piece puzzle and
I've got 48 pieces. This is great.
And then you turn 40 years old
and God's like, oh, it's actually a
2000 piece puzzle and I just forgot
to give you all of these. So
here you go. Have fun. And it's

(32:09):
like, I've met people that are in
their 60s, 70s, 80 years old, and
they're still getting new puzzle pieces out.
And they're the. The purpose and the
Destiny and the thing that they're supposed
to be there for, it's evolving and
it's changing, and there's new elements of
it. I'm getting to witness that firsthand
with my parents, you know, from going
from the senior pastor of the church
to stepping in as founding pastor of

(32:30):
the church and moving into more missions
work. And it's like, some of the
things that they're doing are things that
they've always done, but now they're doing
it in new ways or in different
places, and they're adding some things to
what they do. And it's. It's kind
of cool to be able to see
how that evolves and changes over time.
So don't feel like you're locked in.
Like, my first role in ministry was
youth ministry, and I literally. I was

(32:51):
like, I'm gonna be a lifelong youth
pastor. Like, I was like, I don't
need to do the whole, like, climb
the ladder and go from youth pastor
to young adults pastor. It's a legit
thing. You know, it's like. It's like
90 of youth pastors are using it
as a stepping stone to the real
ministry, and it's like, that's so dumb.
But, like. And part of it was
there was a youth pastor. Oh, man,

(33:12):
I'm blanking on his name. Doug Fields.
There's a youth pastor when I was
just starting out in youth ministry that
was like, the senior veteran guy. And
I remember watching him, he was like,
probably in his 40s or 50s, still
doing youth ministry in an age where
it was like, if you were 25,
you were too old ministry.

Right?

Like, and he's in his 40s, and
he's still doing it. And it was
just like, man, that's going to be
me. I'm going to. I'm going to
do that.

It's kind of young.

Marcus Ivy (33:35):
Yeah, it is.

41 is probably no longer.

Marcus Ivy (33:41):
It is.

I feel like I'm still actually. Okay,
we're not even going to go there,
but, yes. I feel like 40 young,
but that's a good story.

Yeah, but you're in your 40s, right?

Marcus Ivy (33:48):
You're in your 40s. I was going
to say that.

But 41.

I'm not in my 40s until September.
I'm 40.

But anywho.

Anywho, Marcus is like, stay on the
40 conversation.

Marcus Ivy (34:00):
Right. I'm 50.

I'm gonna leave you alone.

Looking better than all of us.

I've been doing good. I think that's
really good, Pastor Brent. And I guess
one of the things I feel like
I'm gifted at is encouragement and like,
I love to make things look good.
And so just thinking about this message
and how it. You even talked about
it in your message yesterday, it stirs
up people. So how can we just,

(34:29):
you know, use our lives as testimonies
to stir up people to get involved
in serving their local church and serving
this body? What are some ways that
you feel like you can start helping
people get stirred to do that?

Marcus Ivy (34:42):
I mean, I think we have to
be excited. You know, sometimes we. We
get into ministry and it becomes this
just, just duty. So I think we
have to get out of this duty
mentality.

How we do that. You need to
unpack that because that's.

Marcus Ivy (34:55):
That's another episode.

No, that's this conversation. It's not a
duty.

Marcus Ivy (35:00):
It becomes a duty when we know
that we're doing it unto the Lord.
Yeah, it becomes not a duty. I'm
sorry. So when we're in this duty
mode, we're just, you know, sometimes we
can get into people pleasing, sometimes we
can get into just the routine of
doing stuff. But no matter what it
is, sweeping floors, once we get into

(35:20):
that joy of doing it unto the
Lord, coming to church, singing your worship
music, whatever your ministry is in, don't
complain about the lighting. Don't complain. Everything
I'm doing, I'm doing unto the Lord
and that, that's where the joy comes
in. So other people see your joy
and they see the freshness of it,
and then they should be drawn to

(35:41):
that. Oh, man. Oh, Ruben, he doing,
man, he's doing this. Or look at
the ushers, look at the greeters and
everything like that. So it should be
this electric, refreshing feeling about just ministry.
It's not a duty. It's not just
because I'm here, I'm going to do
it. It's something that we get to
do to glorify God and everything. So

(36:03):
if we can keep that mindset and
other people will see, like, oh, man,
they not just complaining around here. Oh,
they doing this. Look at them. He
outside standing in the ring, opening up
doors. Oh, man, I could do that.
So it's almost like that energy, you
know, that keeps going and just bring
people in. So. Yep.

Something. Something that helped me with that
is to get to a place where
I don't complain about things.

Marcus Ivy (36:25):
Oh, yes.

Instead I use it as a. Maybe
I should do something about that.

Marcus Ivy (36:29):
Yep.

Like instead of complaining. Oh, man. You
know, the floor's a mess.

Marcus Ivy (36:35):
Yeah.

What if I just picked up some
trash?

Marcus Ivy (36:37):
Yep.

Right. And so Just shifting that mentality,
I think helps instead of just trying
to point. Cuz it was funny. We're
kind of talking about this over the
weekend, just talking about family and how
we are. And like there's, there's something
in the McQuay or the Hanson genes.
It's like we can be very critical
very easily. Like you can point things
out and be like. And for me,
I always tied it into the. Well,
I'm a problem solver, so I see

(36:58):
the world as problems to be solved,
but I think it's just, there's just
a little bit of this critical nature
where it's like, it's very easy to
just point out what's missing, what's wrong,
what's broken. And so like, I had
to start training myself to stop doing
that and start meeting the need. Like
the thing I was pointing out, there
was a need there. Right, right. So
I could, I could tell everybody, hey,

(37:19):
somebody should do something about that. Or
I could just go do something about
that. I was like, you know, probably
cut out the middleman and just go
do something about it.

Marcus Ivy (37:27):
And we probably have a lot of
people in not just our church, but
in the churches who do that. When
maybe you're complaining about an usher or
they're doing this, they're leading me, well,
you probably can do it. Let's see
if you can do it better or
whatever the case may be. Maybe you
can fit in and help them. Maybe
they're overwhelmed with 500 people coming in
on Sundays and maybe you can be
the 10th person that they need to

(37:48):
help.

We've had some great children's workers over
the years join. So my wife and
I, we used to be children's pastors
and man, we had some people a
couple times were like, they were like,
man, the classroom is just, it's just
chaos in there. Like, it's just, it's
just not enough. And I was like,
well, it's because there's not enough teachers.
Like, oh, you need more teachers? Like,
yeah, I do. You look like a

(38:11):
good one.

Marcus Ivy (38:12):
And yeah, it could be a simple
invitation like that because sometimes we, we
do get in this, this routine of
doing, doing, doing, and so we don't
even invite anyone in to take away
the stress, the, take away the whatever
job that you have that you can
give to somebody else. So we're just
carrying everything and we don't care about.

Now that's a whole conversation. I was
actually going to say we talk a
lot about those who should come in
and join. How can we encourage the
Leaders of these different teams to be
open, accessible, and willing to train up
the next generation coming in.

Yeah. So there's a book, I think
it was a Bill Hybels book that
it's not even about this subject matter,
but the title of the book is
Walk across the room or something. It
might be a variation of that, but
it's like the concept of the book
is to walk. And it like, for
me, reading that book as a young
leader, I realized because of my personality

(39:10):
and like, there's always work to be
done. There's always stuff I could find
myself walking very briskly or sprinting through
the building. And so we have to
learn how to just walk and be
a little bit more slow in some
situations, some settings, so that we have
a chance to see people and connect
with people. And I think ultimately, and

(39:30):
this maybe answers that question, maybe answers
the previous question. We've got to remember
that we're putting people over projects. And
so sometimes for me, this is another
flaw of Brentwood. Just talking all about
my issues today.

Yeah. Because I was learning a lot.
Thank you so much.

I appreciate it. It was just very
emotional weekend. So I needed this therapy
session. So I am very. My personality
profile is very project driven. So there's
kind of a breakdown of are you
more people focused or are you more
task focused? And so I'm a task
focused person, which my wife is the

(40:08):
opposite.
So, like, I walk into a room
and I see, you know, the trash
on the floor. I see the sign
that's crooked. I see the. The thing
that needs to be changed. I see
the thing that needs to be started.
She walks in a room and she
sees Taisha and she sees Marcus. And
I haven't seen you in forever. And
so, like, she walks in the room
seeing the people. I walk in seeing
the thing that needs to be done,
which means when we have like a

(40:30):
staff meeting or something, I'll walk in
the room and I'm like, all right,
guys, agenda item number one.
Let's go. And Soul walks in the
room and she's like, so tell me
about your weekend and how was life
and what's going on? And so I
can get through an hour long meeting.
And we have solved every problem, but
nobody is connected in any way. Soul
can go through a one hour meeting
and nobody has solved a single thing,
but everybody is way more connected.

(40:52):
And it's just our two personalities. We
have the extreme ends, which makes it
fun when we come together because we
can kind of meet in the middle,
but because that's my nature, I can
end up putting projects over people where
I'm trying to accomplish the task, but
I'm focused on the task, not on
the people. And so I have to
force myself and I encourage others to

(41:14):
do the same, to remember it's about
people, not projects.
Even when your job may be to
clean the bathroom and you may be
looking at that job and saying, well,
my job is to clean the bathroom.
It's not like your job is to
prepare a space for people that are
coming in. And when the person comes

(41:34):
into the bathroom and it's a mess,
it becomes a distraction.
When it was. It was stinky in
there and there wasn't the thing that
I needed. And all this, like, you
have a bad experience in the bathroom,
now you're going into worship with a
grudge, with a, you know, this thing
in the back of your head, and
then you're listening to the sermon, but
all you're thinking about is, man, they
don't even know how to restock toilet
paper. And so like, now that person

(41:55):
has completely missed what's happening because they.
They were distracted by an environment issue.
And so even, like, for our facilities
guys and for. For people that serve
in areas that they may not be
very people focused, they really are still
people focused because it's all about creating
that space for them. So across the

(42:16):
building, it's. We're creating opportunity for people.
Like, I had. I had somebody years
ago that was.
It was. They were complaining because they.
I'm not going to name any names,
but they're. They're complaining. They were serving
in our children's ministry at registration, the
registration desk, and they're complaining because there
was this family that just kept coming
in, like, week after week with like

(42:37):
10 minutes left in the service. And
they're like, by the time I process
them for registration, it's time for them
to pick up their kid. Like, it's.
It's a waste. Like, I've already shut
down all the system stuff, and now
I'm trying to figure out, okay, how
can I fit them in the classroom?
And they're complaining about it.
And they were frustrated, and I pulled
them aside one day and I just
reminded him, like, what if the 10
minutes of service that they're able to

(42:58):
get to is exactly what they needed
today? What if they've just had a
rough week and they're gonna walk in
that room just as the altar call
is happening? Just as we invite the
altar ministry team to come on down
to the front to pray for anybody
that has A need.

Yeah.

What if that moment just walks in
the door, walks straight to the altar
and gets prayer? Would it be worth
it for you to check in their
kid so they could have that moment
without their kid pulling on them?

Marcus Ivy (43:22):
Ouch.

100. Worth it.

Yeah.

And so it's. We can't lose sight
of. We do this for people.

Yeah. It's that sharpening piece that you
talked about in your assignment yesterday. Like
iron sharpening iron. So that's good. And
one way is to help each other
see the bigger picture.

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah. So let's. Unless, Pastor, I was
gonna say, let's land this plane.

I was trying to land that plane.
Like, we're like, we're like still in
takeoff mode. And she's like, land it.

No, I'm not trying to land it.

No. I think it's because by nature,
I like long podcasts.

I know.

Just sit and listen, talk and chill.

Yep. Yep.

Marcus Ivy (44:01):
She's like, I got stuff to do.

No, I have. I don't have stuff
to do. No. Because, you know, when
we, when we get to our takeaway
parts, it can. That can add another
15 minutes to it. So I wanna,
I do have to.

Pick up a cat.

You do. So I'm being gracious.

Thank you so much.

Yes. I was watching the time for
you. So let's land the plane. I
love to close out with takeaways from
the sermon that we had an opportunity
to hear yesterday. So because you preached
it, we're gonna have you go last.

Okay.

And we're gonna start with you, Marcus.
What's the takeaway?

Marcus Ivy (44:37):
Yeah, so it's a lot in that,
in that movie, the ending where, you
know, he was talking about when he
was, you know, kind of talking about
death and things like that. But. And
I think just, just being fulfilled, having
that fulfillment as, as a believer kind
of in a movie where I don't

(44:57):
know exactly where, but it's almost like
we all have something that we can
do. It's not. Nothing too big or
nothing too small. Everyone has a position
on the field to play in. And
regardless, whatever your position is, it's important.
So just coming and having that smack
dab thing like, okay, what am I

(45:19):
doing before I die? Am I making
a difference that, like hit right real
hard, you know, especially when you get
50, it's. It's like, you know, have
I done enough and am I doing
enough?

Yeah.

Marcus Ivy (45:33):
Am I on the right team? Am
I in the right position? But just,
just bringing clarity, just how, how he,
you know, put that it's like it
feels good when you know that you
are in that position. So, and just,
I just encourage everyone, no matter where
you at, you can make a difference.
No matter what stage in life you

(45:54):
are. New believer, older believer, you can
make a difference. And think about it,
you never know who's looking at you.
And so I think that that keeps
me going because I may not have
a one on one with someone, but
someone may see me walk an elderly
person to the car. That day I
was in a game, I was doing

(46:16):
something to fulfill God's purpose, whatever the
case may be. So no matter how
big, no matter how small, you know,
every, A lot of people look at
positions and titles and stuff like that.
Just, just take that stuff out the
box. You know, it may be a
season like what's the name? Scooter. But
you, Scooter, you may have to, you
may have to go sit on a
bench. But that may be, that may

(46:36):
be a time of refreshing, that may
be a time of learning, that may
be a time of, you know, just
kind of filling out where you are.
It doesn't mean that you're out of
the game, you know, it just means
that, you know, it's a time of
refreshing. And you know, so those are
kind of some takeaways for me.

That's good. Before I give my takeaway,
you want.

Marcus Ivy (46:55):
To know what happened to Scooter.

What happened to Scooter? Because that was
bad.

Yeah. So Scooter is a bench player,
but so he becomes vital towards the
end of the. So the end ish
of the movie. They actually play in
the longest Little League World Series game
like in history. And there's a rule
where the pitcher can't pitch more than

(47:20):
X number of innings. And so they
have to move Mikey out of catcher
to be pitcher and they bring Scooter
Booter in as the backup catcher. But
beyond that, like, Scooter is just, he's
a vital part of the team. He's
bringing jokes and energy and encouragement to
the other players. Like even though you
know he's not a starting player because

(47:42):
there's only, there's only what, baseball's nine.
So there's only nine guys on the
field and they have a team of
12. So there's three guys that, that
ride the bench, but they're there to
jump in when there's a, an injury
happens and they're there to encourage the
team. They're right there with them rallying.
So Scooter Booter finds his place.

That's a good, that's a good message.
That's a message.

Marcus Ivy (48:07):
Yeah. Every believer has a place. You
know, you. You're gonna find your place.
Like, just. Just keep coming to practice,
keep coming to the game, Keep showing
up. You know, you'll. You'll find your
place or you.

That's a way of staying prepared. If
he wasn't even on the team, how
could you put him in the team?

Marcus Ivy (48:23):
Stay ready so you don't have to
get ready.

Stay ready.

Yes. So my takeaway, I actually got
to experience it in real life, and
I'm gonna try to get through without
getting emotional, but yesterday I got a
text from one of my. On the
first Sundays of the month, we do
social media content creation days. And so
my whole social media team come in
and we just rock out content. One
of the girls text myself and another

(48:47):
member, she said, I'm gonna be honest,
like, it's gonna be hard for me
to come in and serve today because
something. She's experiencing some pretty traumatic things.
And. And I was like, you know,
the income, like, well, you know, it's.
I'm. Thank you for checking in. You
don't even have to come in, you
know, like, that is tough. So, you
know, take your time. We got this.
She still showed up and rocked out

(49:09):
the content, and it was an encouragement
to me and the team to just
see, like, her push through something very
traumatic and, like, serve. And I saw
that it filled her cup and she
filled our cups. So don't take your
positions or just serving as something like,
oh, you know, I'm just gonna come

(49:30):
do this out of obligation. You never
know how God want to use that
serving moment to. To fill your cup
in those seasons where you feel like
you don't have anything to give. So
that was my takeaway. Just keep showing
up.

Marcus Ivy (49:43):
Yeah, that's it.

That's. That's the. That's the encourage one
another.

Yeah.

Thing. And. And for. For her, like,
would the content still have been created
if she hadn't shown up?

Yeah.

Yeah. You know, the job would have
gotten done, but she needed to be
around the team. Team needed to be
around her. Like, there was. There's this
thing that, like, sometimes, man, showing up,
like, even if you don't do anything,
just. Just show up. Like, you just
need the people. Yeah, that. That's my.
My final takeaway from. From it all
is just you need to be a
part of a team. And I think

(50:15):
the more we start looking at church
as a team, that we belong to
more than just something that we go
to, like church. Isn't supposed to be
a spectator sport. Like it's, it's not
the thing. Like worship isn't a concert.
The teaching isn't supposed to just be,
you know, like watching a movie, right?
Like TED Talk or a TED Talk

(50:37):
or something. Like you're, that you're a
body of Christ, you're a part of
a team. And so when you start
showing up to church not just for
what you get out of it, but
what you have to give towards it,
man, it's just amazing things happen. I
think that was my favorite line in
the movie and there's a lot of
great lines in the movie, but that
was my favorite one when he said,
you know, I don't have a lot.

(50:57):
But what I've learned over the years
is not about what I have, it's
what I give. And that's just man,
if, if we can all have that
mentality of we, we just keep showing
up to give because the people around
us need that. And that's true for
if it's like, it's like the secret
to a great marriage. Like if my

(51:18):
goal in the marriage is to out
serve my wife and my wife's goal
in the marriage is to out serve
me, guess what happens? Yeah, we got
a healthy marriage. We're serving each other.
And so when you show up to
the team and you're like, I'm going
to outskirt serve everybody else on this
team and everybody on the team has
that same mentality. They're coming in, they're
like, I'm just gonna out serve. And
now everybody's encouraged, everybody's stirred up towards

(51:39):
love and good works. Like we're, we're
all fulfilling the one another because we're
doing this together. And it's not about
me doing everything and them watching. It's
about us doing it together.

Yeah.

Teams.

Teams.

Awesome.

So let's go. Yes. I hope you
guys are stirred like we are. If
you didn't get an opportunity, can.

We re watch the on the website
also Vimeo. So yeah, just so social
media is just weird with. So what
we do is legal. It's not an
illegal thing that we do. It's called
fair use. And it's so like all
of our clips are less than three
minutes and we're providing commentary on things.

(52:21):
So like it's a totally normal process.
However, social media is like hyper vigilant
and so they have AI that will
actually flag things as copyright strikes that
aren't. And you just have to go
through this whole like, well, here's why
we can do it. And here's what's
going on and all that. And so
in order to not have to have
that fight every single week, we just

(52:41):
don't air it on social media.

Right.

So.

So, yeah, what I would just encourage
you to do, if you can, come
join us on Sunday, if you can.
If you live in another state, in
person. In person, it's a great experience.
And then you can always tune in
on Live DC1 and you can have
the full experience there. But this was
a really good conversation and the movie

(53:06):
is good, so I encourage you to
go see the movie.

It's clean, it's family friendly.

Yes, yes.

A lot of fun.

Marcus Ivy (53:12):
We'll go cry and watch it today.

Yes, we. We had to bleep one
thing out of a clip from Sunday
and it was like, it was questionable.
It wasn't even, like, straight. So basically,
this Texas kid says a phrase or
says a word that in Spanish with
a Spanish accent is definitely a cuss
word. But the way he says it,
it's like, was that just like Texan
slang.

Or was he trying to say something
in Spanish?

We couldn't tell what he was trying
to do.

And so we're like, just believe it,
just clip it. So, yes, it was
a good movie. We hope it encourages
you. I hope this conversation inspires you
and so stirs you up. That is
our prayer for you. If you have
any questions, let us know. We would
love to address it during this series
at the movies. And until next time,
we'll see you soon.

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