August 13, 2025 • 68 mins
Ever wonder what the Founding Fathers did in their spare time? Yeah, us neither. But Nic Cage sure does in the 2004 blockbuster (?) National Treasure! Have you seen it? Yeah? And did you love it?? Yeah??? Hold on, we're going to guess how old you are....
This is one of Nic Cage's most well known movies. It's a Disney flick. It focuses on conspiracy theories, long lost treasure, and American History. Starring Sean Bean, Diane Kruger, Jon Voight, Harvey Keitel, and the dude who's in the Hangover that's hardly in the Hangover. Love it or hate it, we're going to watch it for the listenership. Cause nobody does Cage like we do! Only on Bucky’s BasementMark as Played
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Welcome to this week's episode of Bucky'sBasement.
I'm Bucky, and as always,with me in the basement today, I have.
Oldboy.
And juice box.
To couldn't think of anything
like three of the things is like,I wanted to do this Redman like rap lyric.
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But then I was like, man,I can't do a Redman rap.
But I've been listening toa lot of Redman, like Old School Redman.
And so I was just like about, yeah, yeah,
I was living somewhere with,
About that same thing.
I got to the point.
I was like, it's like, well, it's like.It's like.
It's like a million times.
And I can recite this line perfectly,but at the same time,
(01:05):
I mean, it doesn't have, like, the N-wordor they get it, but I was like
the 40 something year old me.
It's crazy that you guys don't expect meto say the exact same thing.
Almost two years into this podcast.
Welcome to Bucky's basement.
I'm Bucky, and in the basementwith me today I have old boy
present and juicebox.
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Not bad.
The Green Eyed bandit can't stand it with more fruiter,loops than that.
Toucan Sam, bitch.
Plus the bombozie got me high
Fucking with us is a straight suicide.
and we are herewith another episode of cast.
That. That is what I'm talking about.
We are herewith another episode of Casting Cage.
We do this.
We reviewNick cage movies in chronological order.
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We are currently up to 2004 from 1982.
This is the moviethat you have all been waiting for.
This is Nick Cage's arguably arguably
most popular movie of all time.
2004 Disney's National Treasure.
Yeah, was it popular overseas?
(02:09):
I don't know, but everybody I talk to
that is younger than mehas seen this movie.
It's like growing up in the 80sand seeing The Goonies in its prime.
It's the same shit like that.
I can't, I see thatbecause I have several comparisons.
I know. Yeah,
if you are, if you are about,
I would say between 25
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and 38 years old, maybe 40.
I feel like you've seen National Treasure.
I think a lot of people sawNational Treasure because it was a huge
some like huge blockbuster,if I'm not mistaken.
It was like anticipated.
It was, you know, you're starring
the biggest actor of your timeat this point, which is Nic Cage.
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I think this is the final one.
I'm going to make an argumentfor that later on.
I think this is the final big moviebefore he hits his,
like, low strut.
Yeah, sure.
Voice actingthat does not count in this world.
Anyway, we're here to review2004 is National Treasure.
This is a very long film, so we are goingto try to make this podcast short,
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at least shorter than 2.5 hour runtime.
This movie has a 46% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Currently,it is sitting at a 6.9 IMDb rating.
Did we want to jump into the box office
numbers real quickLet's talk about numbers.
Because I wanted to knowwhat this movie made a blockbuster.
So I was like, all right,
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what werethe numbers for National Treasure?
It had to have fucking exceededall expectations.
according to IMDb,hundred million dollar budget.
Okay.
That's low.
I like I feel like that's low.
Maybe not for 2004 and forI feel like 100 and,
$100 million is a lot for this movie.
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Yeah.
Opening weekend it made $35 million.
Worldwide, 347 grand
total or just opening weekend.
Okay.
Worldwide,like opening weekend is 35 million.
I don't know about worldwide,but that was just a
so somebody got paid about 250 mil.
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For a 100 mil budget.
So anyway, so needless to say, $35 million
opening or opened as the number onemovie that weekend, November 19th, 2004.
Like, that's probably Thanksgiving weekendor like right before it made sure,
it, barely beat another movie.
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You guys want to guess what it is?
It's,
but one thing.
I mean, it's a cartoon character.
I don't think it.
I don't think Scooby Doo.
No, that was a cartoon character.
Yeah.
Like,I don't know how, like, is it a superhero?
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No, it's not a superhero.
And I guess it is a cartoon movie.
Garfield.
SpongeBob. Oh, okay.
National treasure 35 million.
SpongeBob 32.
Wow. That weekend,
was that live action or was that still didI think it was mixed right?
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I feel like it was like a lot of cartoons,but it wasn't that a shit with like,
David Hasselhoff in it?
Oh yeah, I do. Okay.
I do remember that,Or was that after that?
I don't know.
Regardless, SpongeBob SquarePants,maybe it was the number two.
Number three.
Incredibles.
Number four express.
Five Bridget Jones.
But not like the not the Diary of Reason.
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Something called After the sunset. Ray.
The Grudge, which,
Which movie is that?
I feel like so horribly.
Yeah.
Yes. You're right.
All round out the,definitely saw saw in that other one,
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but I'm sure it's the original. So.
Yeah, definitely saw that.
It's The Grudge,the follow up to The Ring.
Yeah.
It was like the,
it was kind of in the same, like, veinor whatever that the ring sold it.
All right.
But those are the other thingsyou could have seen in the theater.
We are here to talk aboutnational treasure.
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All that to say,it was a major blockbuster.
I honestly have never seen this movieuntil today.
I watched it for the first time today.
I only gave it one pass through,but I gave it a serious pass
through for a 2.5 hour movie, a price,but 3.5 hours watching it,
pausing, rewinding,
analyzing what time of it doesn't matter.
(06:55):
Look, my kids still aren't in school yet.
This was the final daybefore my kid goes back to school,
so I had to watch him all day.
I gave him a little iPad time,and I spent some time with Nick.
Cajun national treasure.
He watched part of it, and he said,what are they doing?
And I said, they're searching for clues.
And he said.
And then they found this.
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They found this bell in some snow.
And he was like, yeah, I'm out.
Wasn't a big enough clue. Yeah.
My kid was like, like, curious about it,but not interested enough to watch it.
No, never watch another dayor two like that.
That's all right.
National treasure was directed by again,John Turteltaub,
big director of my childhood.
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I'm just going to go ahead and say this.
This guy is a fucking hero to me.
Up until National Treasure.
Well, maybe not a hero, but, like,big influence on my life.
We're talking three ninjas.
You know, the kid with the, thethe licorice rope hanging down, dude.
And three,three ninjas was fucking huge to me.
Cool Runnings,
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I mean, come on, like,you don't even have to say shit.
That's Cool Runnings
around their house.
We've watched it multiple times. Yeah.
While you were sleeping.
I've seen that movie.
Yes. Sandra Bullock,where she's kicking her leg off.
Yeah.
We don't need to bring it back upfor phenomenon, which I think
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phenomenon, which I think isJohn Travolta's, City of Angels.
It's where he, like, hadtelekinetic powers or whatever.
He was kind of like an angel.
He's kind of like Nic Cageand City of Angels.
Is that what it was?
He did have some kind of,
like, telekinetic power,but he had an angel movie, right?
Oh, he also had an Angel movie.
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Yeah. Instinct.
National treasure, National treasure two.
And The Meg is his most recent creditas a director in 2008,
which I looked into the Megand I was like,
is this just like one of those cheesySharknado type things?
Right.
The Meg, The Meg comes out and blows awayits budget by $500 million.
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I was like, are you kidding me?
I would have never goneto seen a Meg door.
Meg, a door, whatever.
Megalodon.
And like,I've seen it, like, on my, you know,
you'll be at, like, a hotel and it's on.
I'll watch a little bit of it,and it's so over the top.
It's there.
Yeah.
I've never seen an actual movie,but I've seen.
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Well, thank you, John
Turtle Tub for your contribution to film.
So he also as well as TV,Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Janet.
And you know,maybe we'll get to that in a few years,
maybe eventually if you keep listeningand watching out there.
Speaking of that, if you're listeningto us on your favorite podcast network,
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Now let's get into the castof National Treasure.
We are here each and every weekfor one man and one man only.
That is the wonderful, talentedNicolas Cage.
I think we could just convince peopleto, like, just start five new Instagram.
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Do whatever
it takes away five bucksand we'll just buy it.
What we need to dois, is convince all those like,
chicks that like us.
Yeah, yeah.
That's it.
The only fans,
they all have two pictures and, Dude.
(11:20):
Yeah, they follow no one women.
I'm like, man, if we can just do it. Yeah.
And if you are one of those chicks,prove your real by leaving a comment.
This.
Yeah.
All right, back to National Treasure,and we're getting to this guest.
Nic Cage plays Ben Franklingates, loves the name Benjamin.
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Sorry. Benjamin Franklin Gates.
He is a treasure hunter.
A third generation treasurehunter is what we learn in this movie.
He is a
he is like that comes.
Dang. I should have wore, my.
I've got a shirt with Nic Cage onit says National Treasure, and,
I missed the bus on that.
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His sidekick in this
movie is Justin Bartha,who plays Riley Poole.
He's like the nerd guythat knows all the digits.
And he's the guy from the Hangover.
This Justin Bertha, he's like the
the dude that gets left in the firsthangover or they're trying to find ends up
being in the next couple of hangoversdon't really know him for much else.
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He's not a real world.
I think this could be his biggest role,to be honest with you.
Yeah.
Next we have Diane Kruger,who plays Abigail Chase.
She is, like,the executive director of the National.
What is our archives?
She's in chargeof, like, all the important shit Oh, boy.
Where do you know Diane Kruger from?
(12:50):
Inglorious Bastards. Fuck, yeah.
I also know her from.
She's insomething else. I'm like, oh, yeah.
All right,
next up we have Sean Bean, who plays IanHowell, the bad guy.
You you definitely know Sean Bean fromLord of the rings, Game of Thrones.
All of the all of the shit that I hate.
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Anything that's medieval.
This guy was in with long hair.
He has 269 credits on IMDb.
What more movies on cage?
I mean, it's like, I don't know howthey count, like television stuff
or whatever, but like, yeah, he'sbeen in for, like, tons of stuff.
All right, next up we have, Jon Voight.
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He plays Patrick Gates, Ben Frank,
Ben Franklin Gates is, dead.
Jon Voight.
Is this.
Dude, I was going to say I was going tosay the the way, you know, Jon Voight is.
George bought his car in Seinfeld.
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Like,
Next we have, Christopher Plummer,who plays John Adams Gates.
They're all named after famous peopleexcept Jon Voight.
Patrick got to like Gyp.
Famous American dude Christopher Plummer.
We all know who he is.Started with the Sound of Music.
Ended with,like the gatekeeper of fucking the ring.
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Right.
Wasn't either God the onehe wanted Gandalf from the ring or not?
Yeah.
Yeah, I thought that was Christopher
Plummer, because I hate those movies, too.
I hate all that shit.
We're going to round this cast out
with Harvey Keitel,who plays Detective Sandusky.
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Terrible role, because I always think ofHarvey Keitel as Mr.
White.
A couple of other things,but he has missed the wolf.
Yeah, but, like, the way that he is usedas a detective in this movie,
I'm like, as soon as he comes onthe screen, I'm like, God damn it.
Like, it's so tight. Like, I mean,
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but, like,that's the best aspects of this movie.
I feel like it'sjust like a generic blockbuster.
Like he's generic blockbusterdetective. And then.
Oh, no.
Sorry. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so we got through the cast.
Now we're going to get into the plot.
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But before we get into the plot,we have a segment on Bucky's basement
where we let Juicebox read the plot,and then we kick it back over to him
for his version of what he saw in Disney's
National Treasure, and a segmentthat we like to call Juice Box.
on IMDb, which is whereI've just been following this thing.
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It's literally just a historian race
to find the legendary Templar treasurebefore a team of mercenaries
like.
Fate.
Just before them.
They're just watching.
Yeah, I thought you said that to.
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They all are.
So anyway, mine.
Just like I can goback to what we were talking earlier.
As Doug lay on the roof,
slowly dying.
During.
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Business.
During.
The stream.
He was a treasure.
This treasure of the world.
So I guess that's all right.
I like that
he passes out on the roof of the CaesarsPalace or whatever.
And this is the dream that he goes in itbecause it can only be a dream.
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Because dream dreamsare this wild and crazy.
All right, let's get into this plotfor 2004 National treasure.
Let's start this by,establishing Bucky's establishing shot.
Which is my favorite thing, my favoritenew thing that we do on Casting cage.
I was it was given straight to me.
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It was it was right on the screen.
Washington, DC, 1974.
You had to see.That's all I needed to see.
I did I would get it in a minute,but the first thing we see is Washington,
D.C., 1974, a young BFG.
I'm going to have to. Ben.
Sorry, BenjaminFranklin Gates that you see through the,
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Jerry Bruckheimer logo.
Yeah, I think you know exactly what it is.
If that's an establishing shot, then yes.
Coming down the roadand the lightning striking a tree.
so what I would kind of callthe opening shot, or at least what I took
a note of is like that first static shotwhere it's like the dark attic,
you see the door openand the kid run in like the attic.
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But that's not telling me where we are.
It's not telling me a time period untilthey give it to me right on the screen.
Tellsyou where you're at. The opening of the.
I know you're in an attic,but that's another shot.
Exactly.
I was like, I,I thought I was like that, but
I loved it, I loved it, yeah,
it's it's the fucking opening of,the never ending story.
(18:24):
It's like, you know, it's all that shit.
Like you're going up in an attic,you're going to find some cool shit.
It's lightning and raining and whatever.
I gottasay, real quick, he runs up in the attic.
He's got a flashlight.He's like looking around.
There's multiple lights already.
Oh. Yeah. Yeah, there always is. Yeah.
How did you let that?
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Up there.
You played the role that.
Yeah. No.
So we're in an attic.
Young BenjaminFranklin Gates. He's young.
We're going to establish that he'sgoing to be a treasure hunter.
He's a third generation treasure hunter.
He gets caught,like finding something by his granddad,
who's played by Christopher Plummer.
John Adams gates.
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He sits him down,and the first thing we hear is like,
it was 1832 on a night just like tonight.
And I'm like, tell him large words.
It's like,yes, it's all I could think about.
And I'm like, man,this is given like opening princess vibe,
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like Princess Bride vibeslike grandfather reading the grandson
about like, the old daysand like how it should be and whatever.
And once we get up there, this is this is what you hear.
(20:00):
then you realize
Christopher Plummer was in Cuba. Not.
That's.
This is like
this fucking shit that you hearat, like, 230,
like, just unrolled a doll or.
(20:24):
That was in the other room real quick.
And he did pull that out of his pocket.
Roll up. Like, what the fuck?
What were you doing?
But, I mean, that's like,
choked up.
It's very.
Yep. So it's real quickthat I, like, want to say one other thing.
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I don't get any, like, free basis.
Are they the good guys or the bad guys?
The likethey're the good guys of this movie.
And I feel like they're the good guys
that like DaVinci code and other shitlike that, said, man, it's like,
you know, the other people are likethe Freemasons are trying
to take over the world, aren't they?
The reasonfor like the Denver airport or something?
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I don't know, I'm an Occam's Razorkind of guy,
so I, I'm bettingit was just an excuse to get away from it.
If you get this thing, it's like you're.
We're just trying to agree on this. Agree?
It's like, no, we're not.
What it's like, well,
what if in real life.
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In real life, the treasure,
the Knights Templar treasurewas just a massive stash of,
like, throughout the ages, like, here's
tablet.
Yeah.
And then you get to 2025 and realizehow easy it was.
We didn't need to hide this shit.
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So weird.
Oh my God.
In this scene also,we're also introduced to John Boyd, right?
And John Boy's like,
treasure is not real.
Did you the way.
And Christopher Plummerlooks at John Boyd like he's adopted.
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Yeah, dude.
John Voight's wig at that scene. Yep.
That'show you make people look young in 2004.
You just give him a thicker wig.
Is like the next scenewhen Nick cage is growing up.
He, like, almost the exact same.
Yeah.
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All right, so the young John.
Sorry, Ben Franklin Gates,he makes a vow that he's going to do this
for the rest of his life.
And then we snap, and we gofrom bowing your head to coming up.
We find that we're in the Arctic Circle.
And I wrotewho funds these fucking excursions?
And then later a couple,
like a couple of minutes later,we found out that Ian funds it.
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And I'll tell you about Ian herein a second.
Yeah. They,
They do.
We find outIan later on is a international terrorist.
But he has hiredthe greatest treasure hunter in the world
that is Mr., Ben Franklin Gates.
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Best in the world.
Or is he just best at, like,American history?
He's the. But he's a good treasure hunter.
We're going to find that out.
You're going to find out real quick,because the first thing we find
is Charlotte. It's, Charlotte.
They talk about a little bit.
We find and excavate an entire ship.
Yeah.
Like, what the fuck, man?
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No one's ever found this ship.
No one knows where it is.
You know it.
Granted, it's out in the Arctic Circle,out there in the middle of nowhere.
Seemingly.
It's fucking like six inchesunder the snow.
And then they just, like, digthe whole thing up and you're like water
on the inside.
Like, wouldn't there be like frozen wateron the inside like rancid thing.
Like see it's like ice under there.
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It's been shifting around.
It melted and it thawedand then it froze again.
And there'd be water inside of it.
Yeah, but maybe it's sealed.
It's completely sealed.
Because in order to go on the ocean,you have to seal the hole.
Right? So maybe it's all a sealed hole.
Okay. I'll. I'll try.
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Okay.
I'll, I'll I'll buy that. Okay.
All right.
so we find the ship, the in the ship,
we find a pipe, and the pipe is a clue.
And the pipe is a badass looking pipe.
By the way, I love to have that.
Probably going to get a replicaat some point.
They find a pipe.
Pipe turns into a clue.
Ooh, now we have a riddle.
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A riddle.
Yeah, out of that one.
The national treasure pipe.
Yeah,I want to get the national treasure.
I'm going to do thatas soon as we're done with this podcast.
I'm sure it's on Amazonor somewhere on Etsy.
Makes it anyway.
All right.
Ship clue. Riddle.
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This is where it starts.
Like a real Disney for me.
It's a lot of fun, but how do we get
from the riddleto the Declaration of Independence?
We all want to know.
And in the movie, you want to know.
And you're like, how the fuck does BenFranklin Gates, Ben Gates know this?
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Yeah, it's word association.
And it's also likehow you pick like, who's going to go back.
Sure.
I think we have a clip of this.
(26:35):
But. Right.
Love it.
Love this part.
(27:17):
Like this Bleep right here.
Yeah.
Fast.
Think that might do a crossword
Sean being shot right.
(27:51):
The declaration dude that like
yeah right
I mean it like that.
That is
that's like a little thingis bonkers to me
because it's also like, well, you're like,the writers were just like,
how do we get from here to here?
It's like, oh,
we can have a couple more sceneswhere he's like solving
(28:12):
some more of the mystery,and he puts it together like that.
We don't really have fucking timeor budget for.
We're already a 2.5 hours.
We'll just like, work through it like
like us like.
It's.
Working.
(28:32):
It's great.
It's it's great, it's great.
It's something.
It's funny to see how he goes.
I mean, even, like, where he goes.
You've seen it in other films before, but,it's been a lot simpler.
It's not, but it's.
It's like I couldn't follow it. Yeah.
(28:53):
Because, you know,
when he started to do the iron pen thing,that's where you lose me watching that.
Well, yeah, that what he said.
That too, is like, man,I know he's like ultimately.
Right.
But if I somebody say
like.
Yeah, Anyway.
All right, so we've gottento the declaration of Independence.
(29:14):
But first we got to blow up the ship.
It is a lot of fun, you know,it's like how they found the pipe.
It's hot as gunpowder.
They start gunpowder,they blow up the ship,
and then we find the smugglers hole.
Saves the day, Nick.
You know, he's got to know that.Get out of the smugglers. So.
All right, meanwhile, in Washington, DC,you're establishing that.
(29:39):
Oh, yeah, baby. Yeah.
We get it
like nine miles to the closest town.
So yeah.
And then they get throwawayline at the end of when they don't get it
anything.
It's like Mission Impossible or.
(30:00):
Yeah.
And then it's like a yeah.
Like that shot
like James Bond mission impossible,like this is, you know,
that I get to do is hike nine milesand then you're back into your own towns.
You know whatMeanwhile, in Washington, DC,
we learned that Abigail is in chargeof the National Archives.
She is played by the wonderful DianeKruger.
(30:21):
I said, I can't stop thinking of thebasement scene of Inglourious Basterds.
We've already talkedabout that on this podcast.
But then in walks the nerdy dude
and Nick cage,and someone is going to steal the video.
I think I need to start saying
do, declaration of Independenceis going to get a little old here.
(30:42):
We have always establishedevery everybody knows
everybody out therethat knows that, national treasure.
The only thing that they recite
is I'm going to stealthe Declaration of Independence.
You know, like, I get it.
It's kind of fitting.
Like the British are going to steal,
like you, that the British bad guysare going to be the ones
(31:02):
to steal the Declaration of Independence.Yeah.
So he tries to warn the,you know, the authorities,
but nobody wants to listen to himbecause, yeah, he he's accusing come from.
And then we get this incredibleexplanation of why the Declaration
of Independence is unsellable,which is unfucking real.
When they show that littlelike many, many montage of it, like,
(31:26):
being lowered into a vaultthat's bigger than Bucky's basement, like,
and it's just one documentin the middle of the room.
It'sI mean, this was a straight rip off of us.
So that's my next thing I said.
The ocean guys can definitely stillthis fucking thing.
Mission impossible.
Yeah, the.
Yeah, it took 11 people, but it only tookthree dudes and one adapter.
(31:50):
So they did like that. Yeah. True.
So any of you have to draw a it
or I said, I said the oceans guyscould definitely steal this.
Oh, wait, is this a two man Ocean's team?
Is what, I put down next.
It's because everybody seesthe same fucking thing in this movie.
(32:12):
It is built on 37 different movies.
Anyway, Q and the bad guys plan,which is my favorite, right?
The bad guys are going underground.
The good guys are going in through,
like, the top,but the bad guys have this dynamite.
Like, if you do, you have that note,They make a note that they were like
like Nick cage in them or like,you know, he's taking a picture
(32:34):
of somebody's badgeand they're like doing like, oh, like,
yeah.
And the other dudes are likejust like like, yeah, yeah.
Going back to the other, like.
And the explosives say, literally,
if y'all looked at that tag,I had to rewind it like five times.
It just says demolition. Like.
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And I was like, what?
Like they just called dynamite.
Yeah. It said.
Yeah, it was the most generic shit ever.
It was just.
And it was just like, this is their plan.
Like,these guys are being smart and everything
that they
know, and and they're goingto go underground and just drill a hole up
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through the bottom, like,suck it down there.
So when, when Nic Cage goes and tellslike the authorities about the bad guys,
there's still the Declarationof Independence.
Why doesn't he give, like,a lot more specifics and like, hey,
this is what they're after,this is who they are.
They're not even from here.
Like, they are like just British.
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They are legal.
Yeah, but
100% specific about who the bad guy isand say, like,
you have to put them under surveillancefor the next month.
They're going to. Yeah.
And they don't think about that in blackRussian movies.
All right, so, Gates and RileyPoole are going through the top.
(33:57):
We've establishedthe bad guys are going underground.
Now. I'm getting very Stanley Goodspeed,the rock vibes here.
I felt some Stanley Goodspeed through thisbecause he's
not only deciphering things.
He's like decoding.
He's being smart about it.
He's,you know, kind of growing some balls here.
(34:18):
My one of my favorite parts of this whole
stealing scene is when, you know,
the the guy, the nerd guy's computercan't decipher Valley Forge, but
Nick can't can when he's like, you know,doing the the black like thing on thing.
And the funniest thing is, like,why wouldn't Valley Forge come up?
But like, a very gulf came up and like,all these, like, random terms
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of, like, nobody's ever heard ofthis shit is like an American. Like
like the.
Yeah, the easiest, the laziest thingpossible
was for an art national archivist.
Like, yeah.
Anyway, all right.
Characters.
No, no, just all capitals.
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Just that way. But like, you got this.
This scene was also very fucking missionimpossible to go.
Yeah, yeah.
Because the bad guys.
No, he still thethe Declaration of Independence.
The bad guys comein. They're in the hallway.
They're shooting it.
It's a bulletproof glass.
They've talked about that already.
Yeah.
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And then he gets in.
But he was thinking about it like theI mean, yeah, it was bulletproof,
but I believe that.
Yeah that's a good point there.
Just like now they talked about it. It's.
Yeah it's shoot.
Yeah. Shoot him at least.
Anyway, Ben, Ben Gates gets awaywith the Declaration of Independence.
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The gift shopdoll scene is, one of my favorites.
So he's walking through the gift shop.
He's got it tucked between his jacket.He has to pay for it.
This was this.
This gave us the whole reason why,like Harvey Keitel and them get involved.
It's because he only has 30 to, like 75.
It's $35.
He has to use his credit card now.
(36:06):
We got to an hour been traced.
Yeah, thatlike I don't know if you noticed that.
Like, you know, they show captainhis money in this card right there.
And this is, like,very prominently in the.
Oh, yeah, product placement.
Then we get an incredible car chase scenebecause he gets out
with the Declaration of Independence.
But the bad guys show upbecause they find out about it
and come up through the ground in theircar and their food truck.
(36:34):
Yeah.
It is pretty into that food truck.
Could get up and go.
I'm telling you, it was like a take.
And then I wrote, where did the cops goat the end of the car chase scene
like this? Is it Grand theft auto?
They just like, there'sno way a food truck and a fucking huge
van can get away from, like,nine cop cars.
(36:57):
Where the cops that.
Yeah,
yeah,all of that shooting and the stealing
of the Declaration of Independence,like you
nation.
And there was, like, 30 shots fired infront of that National Archives building.
So like, it's I don't know,you'd think they'd still be on it.
(37:19):
They are.
Oh, God.
I wrote, God damn it, HarveyCartel incomes a detective.
Here we go. We gotta keepeverybody in the.
I want to say the love.
I don't know why.
Keep everybody in this building.This gala?
We got to check them all.
Harvey Cartel's doing this thing like,you know,
my one of my favorite thingsI can't quote.
(37:40):
This is not verbatim, butwhen he was like, who was getting shot at?
Who was doing the shooting andand why were they shooting or something
like that?
I was like, that's the dumbest fuckingthis is CSI shit.
Yeah. You're right. Yeah, yeah.
Big, big ups to big Red.
(38:01):
Yeah.
Anyway,all right, let's be back to the movie
because we're moving pretty quick.All right?
We got awe've got a detective established.
We got bad guys, we got good guys.
We got, you know, questionable, blunt headed,
executivedirector of the National Archives.
Yeah.
The whole thing isthey've stolen this document,
and they think there's a mapon the back of it. Right.
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But they have to go back to Lalosomewhere to
uncover the map that's on the back.
Which leads to another clue.
I call it the con air clue.
They go to John, his dad, his dad.
And who has these letters, right?
(38:42):
Some silence do good.
Which I
not yet found.
I love the explanation.
Ben Franklin was writing lettersas a 40 year
old woman when he was 15 years old.
Yeah, like prank calling.
Anyway, then we gotta, get with these.
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Silence. Do good letters, right?
We don't know what they're for yet,but we're about to find out real quick.
So we're going to visit dad.
So what's on the back of the Declarationof Independence?
With some lemon juice and a hairdryer?
They wouldn't have figured out.
And fucking 1800s lemon juice and,
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until they got the hairdryer.
Yeah.
What do we found out?
We found another clue.
now we've got to figure out what,
you know, sentence, paragraphand line and letter and word and whatever.
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So we got a big clue here.
That's why I call it the con air clueis because it's like when when, John,
your favorite guy, Cusack is liningup, like,
all those letters on theBible from, you know, Cyrus,
something that
when I think about Lerner Airport,
you know, like,so you got these 1700 dudes, like,
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going around their townthat, like, barely built, like,
all right, let's you
hold on. God.
Although I know that
references lettersyou read to your brother's paper.
What? Here? That 40 year old.
Yeah.
Yeah, know.
Figure it out. Kenneth.
It's one two, three four.
(40:32):
And it'll be five.
Nobody will find this massive warehousefull of shit.
We stole.
All right, so we've established
that we've got to figure outthat the dad doesn't have the.
Let's do good letters.
They have to go to, like,another fucking place.
Yeah. Philadelphia.
We get establishing shot in Philadelphia.
Beautiful. It's always a bridge.
(40:53):
I feel like love
going to Urban Outfittersto get some clothes, and they're, like,
just trying on different fucking outfits.
I was just like, man,this was really like, we're a 42 year old.
Used to be like, yeah, but like that.
I mean, I don't know, maybe, you know,I mean, there were some
very prominent like product placement.
(41:15):
Yeah. Oh.
All right, so we we need a little kidto go code the letters.
The letters are held upin a archive in Philadelphia.
So we get this little kid, he goes searchto code and shit, they figure it out.
Oh, my God, it's a Liberty Bell.
Another massive American monumentthing, given that kid one
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across the street.
If I could decipher that shit like cheap
$1 in 2004 or, like, two.
Yeah. That's cheap.
Yeah, it is cheap.
All right,so we're at Liberty Bell comes into play.
It's entering the chat.
We have to go visit Independence Hallbecause we found some, like,
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you know, shit, and, you know, whatever.
Apparently, you can just, like,get on the roof of Independence Hall.
Like, so many things, they're just like,all right, here's where it is.
Let's go.
Especially like, how is the
little fucking, like,accessible to anybody?
And like,
because they didn't have the backof the Declaration of Independence,
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they didn't knowsomebody was going to get on that roof.
No one's ever tried to go up in that clocktower before, get on the roof.
But you have to look at exactlyone hour off.
It's not, you know, Daylight SavingsTime was established,
and then the shadow comes overand it's right on this one, brick.
Then you got to go find thatbrick with the.
You never know what nobody's up thereexcept the roofers to like.
(42:44):
They won't see that shit.
I don't know, it's very.
In 200 years or whatever.
Nobody's been up theresmoking a cigaret. Just look at her
on top of every roof and.
All right, all right. That's true.
I don't just.
Yeah, if.
But I'm not lookingat individual bricks, and
(43:04):
I'm not.
I'm not a treasure hunter. You're right.
The next thing I wrote were, how are thebad guys catching on this quick?
Because they're like,way ahead of the game.
They have this map, they have thislike code, and they get back.
Let's have Google Play like
just like his family legacy
and like, has used 60 yearsthis fucking like more than that.
(43:28):
Like hundreds of years. Right.
Like the generations of the Egyptians.
He should
like his family was like the medicineor whatever right now.
So you're just figuring it out? Yeah.
This dude, this international criminalis just like, man, he's like
one of my favorite.
It was
like his henchman was sitting in the vanand he goes, type in Stowe and Liberty
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Bell and, like, it just led him to exactlywhere he need to go.
That's probably.
Yeah, I just need to. Genius.
All right.
In this Freemason, brick,we find glasses,
spectacles, if you will,because let's call it the Ben Franklin.
My favorite is these are, like, 3Dfireworks glasses with the red
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and the blue.
Yeah, they were silver looks like.
So we get the glasses,we figure out that there's another code
in the codein the back of the map and whatever.
Anyway,now we're on a foot chase in the John.
Yeah, we're we're on a foot chase.
We got a split up scene.
We got an awesome. Another chase scene.
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And then they lose the, Declaration of Independence.
That is what's so fucking frustratingabout that whole fucking scene.
It's like there's such a long chase scene,and so many things happen
at the very end.
They trip and fall and drop itand, yeah, take it up.
Just picks it up and the glasses are gone.
The FBI has gates like it all ends in.
(44:55):
Just like a bad way.
Nobody, you know,none of the good guys are winning here.
But that's what you got to do.
You got to get the good guys down.
So you're rooting for them, right?
Bad guys or, you know,they're taking over at this point.
Exactly.
No, we're not bringing up him.
No we're talking yeah.
We're talking about,you know Babyface in a heel.
(45:16):
I get it Next we get the bad guys. The.
This is my favorite.
So we got Nick cage getting trappedby the FBI, and then we got the bad guys.
Just trust the FBI not to be it like this.
Meet up where they're gonna, like, tradeall the shit out at this public place.
It's like, what the fuck?
Or, like, the phone call was like,hey, all the FBI guys listening.
(45:37):
We since you, you know, we'regoing to kill him and run or whatever.
Like, it's like, dude, but they came upwith a critical awesome escape route.
You know, you get Nick cagejumping off the side of that ship and then
gets, like, dragged under by the diverand like, the that that was awesome.
And right before that,we got to New York, established.
(45:58):
We did. We're getting a lot of them.
We're getting a lot of them. Nextwe get to Trinity Church.
This is the next clue.
We get the clue from the glasseson the back of the D.O.A..
And then, you know,
the dots says, Come to Trinity Church,we get to Trinity Church.
Gang is back together.
This is the weirdest part of the movie.
The bad guys and the FBI, and Nick cage
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and everybody arejust letting everybody get together, like.
Like what's happening?
They're a team again.
They made a deal.
The the girl and the nerd made a dealwith the bad guys.
Like, I don't think they're smart enoughto do that.
Especially the executive directorof the National Treasure.
(46:41):
Archives.
Anyway, so we're all back together.
Then we find out the next clue is beneathparking Titan, laying in her Tomb Raider.
Let's pull some dudeout of the basement of a church.
Another thing they just like.
All right, here we go.
Into the back room of the churchand into the boiler room.
(47:01):
And here's the.
And pull this guy's, like, grave out.
Smash in as they pull the grave out.
And then here we are.
We're either way,
right, dude, even like the theI think the most,
the best treasure hunter in the worldwould have stopped at any of these points
and calling a bunch of people and they'relike, dude, I think I'm on to something.
(47:23):
I need some backupor I want y'all to verify this,
or I think I discovered somethingreally cool.
So yeah, and that's the other thing.
One of the thing that bothers me,there's like this fucking international
being this like international criminalor whatever he is.
Like, he obviously has fucking likea lot of money and a lot of like, shit
(47:44):
can't fucking ropes or anythingto this motherfucking thing.
Like he's. Yeah.
Now to go down into, like he's goingto make everybody else do it for him.
And then the demolition bag.
These are like everythingeverybody do it for.
But he was just doing it a lot.
Yeah.
He was a follower a lot in this.
I hated the guy.
(48:04):
Hated the character.
Anyway, they get past the tomb thing.
They climb through this tunnel,and then this one, dude,
one of the henchmen falls, right?
And he falls down this big hole,and I'm like,
they found one of the seven holesto middle earth.
And I legitimately thoughtthis was like the treasure.
(48:26):
Because I've never seen this movie before.
And in my mind, I wanted to beone of the seven holes to middle earth.
And it was,
not that we
were going to be like,what do we what is that?
Seven holes to the middle like?
Correct. We've done a hollow.
Yeah, we'vewe've done a conspiracy theory on this.
There are seven holes.
(48:48):
Middle earth is like.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you're so it's hollow earth. Okay.
There's seven holes to get to.
Hollow Earth.
I do love holes.
All right, so we're down in this. Cool.Like, getting.
This is where, like,The Goonies comes in.
You know, we've, like, we're coming downall these
(49:09):
rickety, rickety old stairwell, super old
wooden stairwells with ropes everywhere,like, hold up these giant torches.
No, I dude, I want to talk about that.
How the fuck does all this fire worked outhere?
How how did this how did this, chandelier
that lit the entire roomjust survive for 200 years
(49:31):
with, like, a little bit of spark in itto, like, light all this shit up.
Somebody have burned that before, right?
If it's a chandelier.
Yeah, I don't know.
It doesn't make sense. I mean, even, like,
when he gets to the treasure roomwith, like,
his dudelights everything on fire in the room.
It's like.
It's like a butane burner.
(49:51):
It just is burning, you know?
Yeah, yeah,it's the only way to light this up.
anyway, back to the movie.
We found a new tunnel into a room,but we have no treasure.
And then.
Then no treasure.
Since the bad guys, they say,hey, let's make some.
Shut up about Boston.
Let's get these motherfuckers out of here.
(50:12):
They send them way up.
They leave them down there to rot and die.
They said, if nothing's in Boston,we're coming back.
Well,that buys them plenty of time, right?
And then they still thinkthere's no treasure.
But wait, there is a treasure room.
But there's no treasure.
Fuck. Right.
So, But wait, now I'm getting real Goonies
(50:35):
vibes herebecause we're going to take this pipe out
and we're going to put it in this socket,
and we're going to be able to turn itlike this, dude.
he sets up to that thingthat he gets to put the pipe in
and he's like.
That's like, what the.
(50:59):
Their entire lives,
that pipe
buried out about the circle,you have to break that pipe apart.
And using blood is a
correct right here
to get to the bottom of this pit,open a secret room,
and then use the broken pieces of the pipeyou just so happen to still have on you
(51:21):
to fit into this fucking puzzle and crankand turn it up, like, crank it open.
It's hard. It's harder than Zelda.
Yeah, like like what are you fucking up?
That was the worst left. Like,
in this entire movie.
It. How many?
Three times this script was rewritten.
How was that, like? Not like the.
(51:42):
How were they? Like,let's not let's run another one.
That can't be that simple.
Yeah.
Like, God damn it, I knew it was,
I knew it, it was the a boatthat no one could find ever.
Yeah.
And the brand of pipelineslook like old movie for this.
Yep. Right.
That like where that happened.
I was just, like, giving up the fucking.
(52:03):
Yeah. So let's turn it. Let's open it.
Oh, shit.
The fucking treasure.
And we don't get all the treasure at once.
It's great.
They like delay it and the delayit and delay it and then light
this fucking thingand then we're getting, like, who?
The motherfuck transported all this shitdown here like,
(52:24):
holy fucking shit like
that.
Yeah, but who who in Americanhistory did not know
and are kept secretthat all this shit got down here.
There had been 100 peoplethat, like, took that stuff down there.
There's no way like.
(52:44):
And they.
Yeah, they built all of itand built holes and built escape routes.
Yeah.Thanks for keeping that secret. Come.
Yeah. Come check this out over here.
They're. The last thing they said was.
I'm gonna need youto reload all these firewalls.
Before you leave.
So in 200 years,somebody can light this shit up.
Even that, though, it's not even a fuckingsecret like Nick cave gets to that.
(53:10):
Talks with the FBI.
Come to find out, they knew the old us.
Yeah, well, right.
It's like.
It's like area 51, There is so much firein that fucking treasure.
Right. Because you said yes
to getgoing, like further and further back.
It's like they're going to diefrom, like, smoke inhalation.
There's no way there's enough.
(53:32):
Yeah.
I also, don't think I saw any, like, goldcoins of anything of like,
it's like all these big ass statues and,like, scrubs and shit, and I'm like, what?
I'm gonna have to sell this.
Like, what kind of black marketis there for this, right?
How would I make money if I was a bad guy?
How the other, you know. Correct.
(53:53):
But if I was a bad guy,how am I selling this shit?
Right? Like, right.
But yeah, you're probably like,hey, motherfuckers like that shit's ours.
And then you have to, like,return it to all the countries.
All that stuff's fromthat have been pillaged from.
All right.
So let's, let's let's get done with this.
Is the retarded.
(54:19):
Claim or
haven't seen it.
Haven't seen it.
Will watch it.
Can't wait.
Anyway, like that's our forward.
All right,
let's wrap this thing up.
Let's take down the bad guys.
There was a rumor that they didn't showthat.
He's like that a little bit. Covered it.
(54:40):
Yeah.
All right, let's take down the bad guys.
Give the treasure to the world.
Get a big house, get the girl.
Send the dude off in his Ferrari.
The end.
That is done.
There was one last treasure map.
Where does that treasure map lead?
The dookie there, baby, I don't know.
(55:02):
They have a kid. A national treasure, too,
I mean, she yeah.
Yeah that is 2004 is National Treasure.
Or at least our walkthrough of the film.
We have a couple of segmentsthat we like to do.
One is taglines,where we give you the tagline you can find
on, the movie poster.
We will read that to youand give you our version of the tagline
(55:24):
for National Treasure Juice Box.
What do you got?
So there are, at least on IMDb,there are multiple taglines.
One of them is our favorite.
God damn it.
Is it a, John Turteltaub film?
National treasure
from the producer.
Okay,
(55:44):
I think it.
Next.
The greatest adventurehistory has ever revealed.
All right. I got,
national treasure.
Every action movie you've ever heard of.
national treasure getting all.
(56:09):
All right.
I got National Guard.
No, I didn't see any of.
the next
the next segment we have before we get toour ratings is movie marriage.
That's what two movies inspired this.
Like, mom and dad spit outnational treasure.
(56:32):
Maybe followed that map at the end and,
you know, got up in that bigOle old school mansion.
But what movies?
I'm gonna let, Oh, boy go first.
National treasure.
So uncoupled, the rescuers,you all know that movie
with with the with the Chipmunks?
Yeah, yeah.
(56:54):
Because it's like a dad.
Yeah.
I don't know what they're on for,but it's kind of got,
That movie's awesome.
You should shut your kids. Yeah.
And Jonny Quest.
And so those two animated films.
Because I feel like Jonny Quest.
I don't know if y'all remember,Jonny Quest for Jonny Quest
is kind of like a rich kid
(57:16):
with his dad and,
family, and there's always some bad guys,and they're always, like,
hunt down and shit.
It's got a lot of that stuff.
I would love to say Indiana Jones, I don't
know, I wouldn't.
Yeah,
Jesus bucks, Indiana Jones.
(57:38):
Last Crusade
I mean, yeah, I get it.
Because it was like, very much like that.
Like, you know, burying the hatchetwith your dad, right?
Right. Or. Yeah.
And you can.
I mean,even though DaVinci code came after work.
Yeah, like insane, like finding.
And it's even, like, involving theFreemasons and you're like, absolutely.
(58:01):
Yeah.
Y'all are going to hate me,because this week,
my moviemarriage is a entire blender of everything
that has already been mentioned,including, six.
No know,
including the
never ending story, Princess Bride,the Rock.
(58:23):
Let's see.
I can't hear any any movie
that was mentioned in this based offanother movie.
I already said it.
The Goonies, like, it has everyone of these movies rolled up into one,
correct?
The oceans are definitely have that down.
(58:43):
Yeah.
So national treasure.
Anyway, another kind of.
Yeah, it's a good heist movie.
All right, so now let's get into our.
Now, let's get into our ratings of this,national treasure.
Disney's 2004 blockbuster hit.
I'm going to go first this weekbecause I know I want to see what you guys
(59:05):
just ratings are.
This is the first time to explain thisa little bit.
The first time I ever sawthis movie was today.
I have put this off.I was like dreading it.
I didn't want to see it.
I was like, I'm already past it.
You know, this is 21 years ago.
Why would I want to,you know, dive into this?
Other than this exercise we do for castingCage on Bucky's basement?
(59:25):
honestly one timethrough thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
Diane Kruger probably sold it for me.
I don't know if I could watch this
multiple times on like a TBS or TNTor rerun or whatever.
I don't know if I would sit thereand do it.
(59:52):
It's getting my mental rating becauseof that, because I need to see more.
I will be watching National Treasuretwo in anticipation of National Treasure
three, because I love theseover-the-top bullshit con air con.
Yeah, there is going to be a threethese con air phase.
So fucking over-the-top moviesthat are unbelievable,
(01:00:12):
predictable.
I wish I, I want to see this in a darkroom in a theater or something like that.
So predictable. Yes.
Yeah. Fuck you.
All right, here we go.
Sure.
Yeah. One, two. Three.
All right.
I'll just.
Yeah.
(01:00:37):
are movies.
It's a lot.It's got a lot of things going for it.
It's got things it wants to be.
There's a formula.
I was writing it down and it's.
It's the James Bond Indiana Jones.
It starts out at the tailend of a mission.
And then there's
a little bit of a return to normalcyand grabs on this next mission.
And, you know, it'sand then it's the bad guys
(01:00:59):
and the good guys are goingafter the same McGuffin.
You know, it's the same thing.
But this just fall short.
It does not.
Well, you were talking about young peopleliking it, and I dated this girl
that was younger than me,that talked about this movie,
talked about how good it was, and I waslike, it can't be better than Indiana.
So she was like, that's that, like fucking
(01:01:20):
dude, this doesn't hold
up. I just it was predictable and just.
For me.
Okay.
And she sparks.
Really?
(01:01:40):
It was just too much of.
Just, like everything that had come beforefor everyone.
Like, movie that you just named offis the reason, like,
I don't want to watch this moviebecause it was just, like, so generic
and so ripped offfrom so many other movies.
They're all fun.
There was nothing originalabout this movie, right?
There was just like,I mean, and I guess maybe in 2004,
(01:02:03):
like doing a free magazine storywith like, cutting edge.
Yeah.
You know,maybe that is like the, you know.
Yeah, maybe that was like the hot thing,you know,
there was like people that were like,oh, God,
they're like controlling the worldor whatever.
And, it falls flat now, and I don't reallyrecommend anybody to watch this movie.
(01:02:24):
And I will never write like go watch agood like, yeah, I watched you two times.
And the second time going throughit was just like fucking
dude, I ate like I was doing itlast night.
I ate so many just random snacksthat were just at my house
because I was just, like, getting bored,like watching this movie and like,
(01:02:44):
take these,
like, kind of like I'm gone in 60s like,we shit on that.
But it was like ahead of the curveon those, Fast and Furious movies.
So maybe this was like ahead of the curveon Conspiracy Theory,
Knights Templar or whateverthey are that. So
I guess I,I guess I don't know, but it does.
(01:03:05):
It does a
we're not watching this in 2004.
We're watching us in 2025.You're obsessed.
And, you know, you were talking aboutlike old age movies or whatever, like
Wild at Heart came out 35 years ago,
and I would still watch that moviea hundred thousand times before.
I was like,
like, yeah, different tastes.
(01:03:28):
You guys almost are convincing meto change my rating to the best rating,
because this is the definitionof a fucking film.
And you got to go backand think of the guy who made it.
Three ninjas.
Cool runnings phenomenon.
Over American history,which I know you love.
(01:03:49):
American.
Yeah, historyis probably the most boring history.
Well, just just wait, just wait.
We've got, about six moviesuntil the next national treasure.
Speaking of that, we have we've come toa conclusion on 2004 is national Treasure.
Let's give youwhat's up next on Casting Cage.
It is a 2005 crime thriller,
(01:04:11):
sitting at a two hourruntime called Lord of War.
It stars Nick Cage and Jared Leto.
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To couldn't think of anything
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But I've been listening toa lot of Redman, like Old School Redman.
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About that same thing.
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It's like a million times.
And I can recite this line perfectly,but at the same time,
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and we are herewith another episode of cast.
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We are herewith another episode of Casting Cage.
We do this.
We reviewNick cage movies in chronological order.
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We are currently up to 2004 from 1982.
This is the moviethat you have all been waiting for.
This is Nick Cage's arguably arguably
most popular movie of all time.
2004 Disney's National Treasure.
Yeah, was it popular overseas?
(02:09):
I don't know, but everybody I talk to
that is younger than mehas seen this movie.
It's like growing up in the 80sand seeing The Goonies in its prime.
It's the same shit like that.
I can't, I see thatbecause I have several comparisons.
I know. Yeah,
if you are, if you are about,
I would say between 25
(02:32):
and 38 years old, maybe 40.
I feel like you've seen National Treasure.
I think a lot of people sawNational Treasure because it was a huge
some like huge blockbuster,if I'm not mistaken.
It was like anticipated.
It was, you know, you're starring
the biggest actor of your timeat this point, which is Nic Cage.
(02:53):
I think this is the final one.
I'm going to make an argumentfor that later on.
I think this is the final big moviebefore he hits his,
like, low strut.
Yeah, sure.
Voice actingthat does not count in this world.
Anyway, we're here to review2004 is National Treasure.
This is a very long film, so we are goingto try to make this podcast short,
(03:16):
at least shorter than 2.5 hour runtime.
This movie has a 46% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Currently,it is sitting at a 6.9 IMDb rating.
Did we want to jump into the box office
numbers real quickLet's talk about numbers.
Because I wanted to knowwhat this movie made a blockbuster.
So I was like, all right,
(03:37):
what werethe numbers for National Treasure?
It had to have fucking exceededall expectations.
according to IMDb,hundred million dollar budget.
Okay.
That's low.
I like I feel like that's low.
Maybe not for 2004 and forI feel like 100 and,
$100 million is a lot for this movie.
(03:59):
Yeah.
Opening weekend it made $35 million.
Worldwide, 347 grand
total or just opening weekend.
Okay.
Worldwide,like opening weekend is 35 million.
I don't know about worldwide,but that was just a
so somebody got paid about 250 mil.
(04:21):
For a 100 mil budget.
So anyway, so needless to say, $35 million
opening or opened as the number onemovie that weekend, November 19th, 2004.
Like, that's probably Thanksgiving weekendor like right before it made sure,
it, barely beat another movie.
(04:43):
You guys want to guess what it is?
It's,
but one thing.
I mean, it's a cartoon character.
I don't think it.
I don't think Scooby Doo.
No, that was a cartoon character.
Yeah.
Like,I don't know how, like, is it a superhero?
(05:03):
No, it's not a superhero.
And I guess it is a cartoon movie.
Garfield.
SpongeBob. Oh, okay.
National treasure 35 million.
SpongeBob 32.
Wow. That weekend,
was that live action or was that still didI think it was mixed right?
(05:25):
I feel like it was like a lot of cartoons,but it wasn't that a shit with like,
David Hasselhoff in it?
Oh yeah, I do. Okay.
I do remember that,Or was that after that?
I don't know.
Regardless, SpongeBob SquarePants,maybe it was the number two.
Number three.
Incredibles.
Number four express.
Five Bridget Jones.
But not like the not the Diary of Reason.
(05:48):
Something called After the sunset. Ray.
The Grudge, which,
Which movie is that?
I feel like so horribly.
Yeah.
Yes. You're right.
All round out the,definitely saw saw in that other one,
(06:11):
but I'm sure it's the original. So.
Yeah, definitely saw that.
It's The Grudge,the follow up to The Ring.
Yeah.
It was like the,
it was kind of in the same, like, veinor whatever that the ring sold it.
All right.
But those are the other thingsyou could have seen in the theater.
We are here to talk aboutnational treasure.
(06:32):
All that to say,it was a major blockbuster.
I honestly have never seen this movieuntil today.
I watched it for the first time today.
I only gave it one pass through,but I gave it a serious pass
through for a 2.5 hour movie, a price,but 3.5 hours watching it,
pausing, rewinding,
analyzing what time of it doesn't matter.
(06:55):
Look, my kids still aren't in school yet.
This was the final daybefore my kid goes back to school,
so I had to watch him all day.
I gave him a little iPad time,and I spent some time with Nick.
Cajun national treasure.
He watched part of it, and he said,what are they doing?
And I said, they're searching for clues.
And he said.
And then they found this.
(07:16):
They found this bell in some snow.
And he was like, yeah, I'm out.
Wasn't a big enough clue. Yeah.
My kid was like, like, curious about it,but not interested enough to watch it.
No, never watch another dayor two like that.
That's all right.
National treasure was directed by again,John Turteltaub,
big director of my childhood.
(07:37):
I'm just going to go ahead and say this.
This guy is a fucking hero to me.
Up until National Treasure.
Well, maybe not a hero, but, like,big influence on my life.
We're talking three ninjas.
You know, the kid with the, thethe licorice rope hanging down, dude.
And three,three ninjas was fucking huge to me.
Cool Runnings,
(07:57):
I mean, come on, like,you don't even have to say shit.
That's Cool Runnings
around their house.
We've watched it multiple times. Yeah.
While you were sleeping.
I've seen that movie.
Yes. Sandra Bullock,where she's kicking her leg off.
Yeah.
We don't need to bring it back upfor phenomenon, which I think
(08:20):
phenomenon, which I think isJohn Travolta's, City of Angels.
It's where he, like, hadtelekinetic powers or whatever.
He was kind of like an angel.
He's kind of like Nic Cageand City of Angels.
Is that what it was?
He did have some kind of,
like, telekinetic power,but he had an angel movie, right?
Oh, he also had an Angel movie.
(08:40):
Yeah. Instinct.
National treasure, National treasure two.
And The Meg is his most recent creditas a director in 2008,
which I looked into the Megand I was like,
is this just like one of those cheesySharknado type things?
Right.
The Meg, The Meg comes out and blows awayits budget by $500 million.
(09:05):
I was like, are you kidding me?
I would have never goneto seen a Meg door.
Meg, a door, whatever.
Megalodon.
And like,I've seen it, like, on my, you know,
you'll be at, like, a hotel and it's on.
I'll watch a little bit of it,and it's so over the top.
It's there.
Yeah.
I've never seen an actual movie,but I've seen.
(09:26):
Well, thank you, John
Turtle Tub for your contribution to film.
So he also as well as TV,Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Janet.
And you know,maybe we'll get to that in a few years,
maybe eventually if you keep listeningand watching out there.
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Now let's get into the castof National Treasure.
We are here each and every weekfor one man and one man only.
That is the wonderful, talentedNicolas Cage.
I think we could just convince peopleto, like, just start five new Instagram.
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Do whatever
it takes away five bucksand we'll just buy it.
What we need to dois, is convince all those like,
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I'm like, man, if we can just do it. Yeah.
And if you are one of those chicks,prove your real by leaving a comment.
This.
Yeah.
All right, back to National Treasure,and we're getting to this guest.
Nic Cage plays Ben Franklingates, loves the name Benjamin.
(11:45):
Sorry. Benjamin Franklin Gates.
He is a treasure hunter.
A third generation treasurehunter is what we learn in this movie.
He is a
he is like that comes.
Dang. I should have wore, my.
I've got a shirt with Nic Cage onit says National Treasure, and,
I missed the bus on that.
(12:06):
His sidekick in this
movie is Justin Bartha,who plays Riley Poole.
He's like the nerd guythat knows all the digits.
And he's the guy from the Hangover.
This Justin Bertha, he's like the
the dude that gets left in the firsthangover or they're trying to find ends up
being in the next couple of hangoversdon't really know him for much else.
(12:29):
He's not a real world.
I think this could be his biggest role,to be honest with you.
Yeah.
Next we have Diane Kruger,who plays Abigail Chase.
She is, like,the executive director of the National.
What is our archives?
She's in chargeof, like, all the important shit Oh, boy.
Where do you know Diane Kruger from?
(12:50):
Inglorious Bastards. Fuck, yeah.
I also know her from.
She's insomething else. I'm like, oh, yeah.
All right,
next up we have Sean Bean, who plays IanHowell, the bad guy.
You you definitely know Sean Bean fromLord of the rings, Game of Thrones.
All of the all of the shit that I hate.
(13:11):
Anything that's medieval.
This guy was in with long hair.
He has 269 credits on IMDb.
What more movies on cage?
I mean, it's like, I don't know howthey count, like television stuff
or whatever, but like, yeah, he'sbeen in for, like, tons of stuff.
All right, next up we have, Jon Voight.
(13:33):
He plays Patrick Gates, Ben Frank,
Ben Franklin Gates is, dead.
Jon Voight.
Is this.
Dude, I was going to say I was going tosay the the way, you know, Jon Voight is.
George bought his car in Seinfeld.
(13:57):
Like,
Next we have, Christopher Plummer,who plays John Adams Gates.
They're all named after famous peopleexcept Jon Voight.
Patrick got to like Gyp.
Famous American dude Christopher Plummer.
We all know who he is.Started with the Sound of Music.
Ended with,like the gatekeeper of fucking the ring.
(14:20):
Right.
Wasn't either God the onehe wanted Gandalf from the ring or not?
Yeah.
Yeah, I thought that was Christopher
Plummer, because I hate those movies, too.
I hate all that shit.
We're going to round this cast out
with Harvey Keitel,who plays Detective Sandusky.
(14:41):
Terrible role, because I always think ofHarvey Keitel as Mr.
White.
A couple of other things,but he has missed the wolf.
Yeah, but, like, the way that he is usedas a detective in this movie,
I'm like, as soon as he comes onthe screen, I'm like, God damn it.
Like, it's so tight. Like, I mean,
(15:03):
but, like,that's the best aspects of this movie.
I feel like it'sjust like a generic blockbuster.
Like he's generic blockbusterdetective. And then.
Oh, no.
Sorry. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so we got through the cast.
Now we're going to get into the plot.
(15:23):
But before we get into the plot,we have a segment on Bucky's basement
where we let Juicebox read the plot,and then we kick it back over to him
for his version of what he saw in Disney's
National Treasure, and a segmentthat we like to call Juice Box.
on IMDb, which is whereI've just been following this thing.
(15:46):
It's literally just a historian race
to find the legendary Templar treasurebefore a team of mercenaries
like.
Fate.
Just before them.
They're just watching.
Yeah, I thought you said that to.
(16:07):
They all are.
So anyway, mine.
Just like I can goback to what we were talking earlier.
As Doug lay on the roof,
slowly dying.
During.
(16:29):
Business.
During.
The stream.
He was a treasure.
This treasure of the world.
So I guess that's all right.
I like that
he passes out on the roof of the CaesarsPalace or whatever.
And this is the dream that he goes in itbecause it can only be a dream.
(16:54):
Because dream dreamsare this wild and crazy.
All right, let's get into this plotfor 2004 National treasure.
Let's start this by,establishing Bucky's establishing shot.
Which is my favorite thing, my favoritenew thing that we do on Casting cage.
I was it was given straight to me.
(17:14):
It was it was right on the screen.
Washington, DC, 1974.
You had to see.That's all I needed to see.
I did I would get it in a minute,but the first thing we see is Washington,
D.C., 1974, a young BFG.
I'm going to have to. Ben.
Sorry, BenjaminFranklin Gates that you see through the,
(17:38):
Jerry Bruckheimer logo.
Yeah, I think you know exactly what it is.
If that's an establishing shot, then yes.
Coming down the roadand the lightning striking a tree.
so what I would kind of callthe opening shot, or at least what I took
a note of is like that first static shotwhere it's like the dark attic,
you see the door openand the kid run in like the attic.
(18:00):
But that's not telling me where we are.
It's not telling me a time period untilthey give it to me right on the screen.
Tellsyou where you're at. The opening of the.
I know you're in an attic,but that's another shot.
Exactly.
I was like, I,I thought I was like that, but
I loved it, I loved it, yeah,
it's it's the fucking opening of,the never ending story.
(18:24):
It's like, you know, it's all that shit.
Like you're going up in an attic,you're going to find some cool shit.
It's lightning and raining and whatever.
I gottasay, real quick, he runs up in the attic.
He's got a flashlight.He's like looking around.
There's multiple lights already.
Oh. Yeah. Yeah, there always is. Yeah.
How did you let that?
(18:46):
Up there.
You played the role that.
Yeah. No.
So we're in an attic.
Young BenjaminFranklin Gates. He's young.
We're going to establish that he'sgoing to be a treasure hunter.
He's a third generation treasure hunter.
He gets caught,like finding something by his granddad,
who's played by Christopher Plummer.
John Adams gates.
(19:07):
He sits him down,and the first thing we hear is like,
it was 1832 on a night just like tonight.
And I'm like, tell him large words.
It's like,yes, it's all I could think about.
And I'm like, man,this is given like opening princess vibe,
(19:27):
like Princess Bride vibeslike grandfather reading the grandson
about like, the old daysand like how it should be and whatever.
And once we get up there, this is this is what you hear.
(20:00):
then you realize
Christopher Plummer was in Cuba. Not.
That's.
This is like
this fucking shit that you hearat, like, 230,
like, just unrolled a doll or.
(20:24):
That was in the other room real quick.
And he did pull that out of his pocket.
Roll up. Like, what the fuck?
What were you doing?
But, I mean, that's like,
choked up.
It's very.
Yep. So it's real quickthat I, like, want to say one other thing.
(20:45):
I don't get any, like, free basis.
Are they the good guys or the bad guys?
The likethey're the good guys of this movie.
And I feel like they're the good guys
that like DaVinci code and other shitlike that, said, man, it's like,
you know, the other people are likethe Freemasons are trying
to take over the world, aren't they?
The reasonfor like the Denver airport or something?
(21:06):
I don't know, I'm an Occam's Razorkind of guy,
so I, I'm bettingit was just an excuse to get away from it.
If you get this thing, it's like you're.
We're just trying to agree on this. Agree?
It's like, no, we're not.
What it's like, well,
what if in real life.
(21:28):
In real life, the treasure,
the Knights Templar treasurewas just a massive stash of,
like, throughout the ages, like, here's
tablet.
Yeah.
And then you get to 2025 and realizehow easy it was.
We didn't need to hide this shit.
(21:50):
So weird.
Oh my God.
In this scene also,we're also introduced to John Boyd, right?
And John Boy's like,
treasure is not real.
Did you the way.
And Christopher Plummerlooks at John Boyd like he's adopted.
(22:14):
Yeah, dude.
John Voight's wig at that scene. Yep.
That'show you make people look young in 2004.
You just give him a thicker wig.
Is like the next scenewhen Nick cage is growing up.
He, like, almost the exact same.
Yeah.
(22:34):
All right, so the young John.
Sorry, Ben Franklin Gates,he makes a vow that he's going to do this
for the rest of his life.
And then we snap, and we gofrom bowing your head to coming up.
We find that we're in the Arctic Circle.
And I wrotewho funds these fucking excursions?
And then later a couple,
like a couple of minutes later,we found out that Ian funds it.
(22:57):
And I'll tell you about Ian herein a second.
Yeah. They,
They do.
We find outIan later on is a international terrorist.
But he has hiredthe greatest treasure hunter in the world
that is Mr., Ben Franklin Gates.
(23:17):
Best in the world.
Or is he just best at, like,American history?
He's the. But he's a good treasure hunter.
We're going to find that out.
You're going to find out real quick,because the first thing we find
is Charlotte. It's, Charlotte.
They talk about a little bit.
We find and excavate an entire ship.
Yeah.
Like, what the fuck, man?
(23:39):
No one's ever found this ship.
No one knows where it is.
You know it.
Granted, it's out in the Arctic Circle,out there in the middle of nowhere.
Seemingly.
It's fucking like six inchesunder the snow.
And then they just, like, digthe whole thing up and you're like water
on the inside.
Like, wouldn't there be like frozen wateron the inside like rancid thing.
Like see it's like ice under there.
(24:02):
It's been shifting around.
It melted and it thawedand then it froze again.
And there'd be water inside of it.
Yeah, but maybe it's sealed.
It's completely sealed.
Because in order to go on the ocean,you have to seal the hole.
Right? So maybe it's all a sealed hole.
Okay. I'll. I'll try.
(24:24):
Okay.
I'll, I'll I'll buy that. Okay.
All right.
so we find the ship, the in the ship,
we find a pipe, and the pipe is a clue.
And the pipe is a badass looking pipe.
By the way, I love to have that.
Probably going to get a replicaat some point.
They find a pipe.
Pipe turns into a clue.
Ooh, now we have a riddle.
(24:47):
A riddle.
Yeah, out of that one.
The national treasure pipe.
Yeah,I want to get the national treasure.
I'm going to do thatas soon as we're done with this podcast.
I'm sure it's on Amazonor somewhere on Etsy.
Makes it anyway.
All right.
Ship clue. Riddle.
(25:09):
This is where it starts.
Like a real Disney for me.
It's a lot of fun, but how do we get
from the riddleto the Declaration of Independence?
We all want to know.
And in the movie, you want to know.
And you're like, how the fuck does BenFranklin Gates, Ben Gates know this?
(25:29):
Yeah, it's word association.
And it's also likehow you pick like, who's going to go back.
Sure.
I think we have a clip of this.
(26:35):
But. Right.
Love it.
Love this part.
(27:17):
Like this Bleep right here.
Yeah.
Fast.
Think that might do a crossword
Sean being shot right.
(27:51):
The declaration dude that like
yeah right
I mean it like that.
That is
that's like a little thingis bonkers to me
because it's also like, well, you're like,the writers were just like,
how do we get from here to here?
It's like, oh,
we can have a couple more sceneswhere he's like solving
(28:12):
some more of the mystery,and he puts it together like that.
We don't really have fucking timeor budget for.
We're already a 2.5 hours.
We'll just like, work through it like
like us like.
It's.
Working.
(28:32):
It's great.
It's it's great, it's great.
It's something.
It's funny to see how he goes.
I mean, even, like, where he goes.
You've seen it in other films before, but,it's been a lot simpler.
It's not, but it's.
It's like I couldn't follow it. Yeah.
(28:53):
Because, you know,
when he started to do the iron pen thing,that's where you lose me watching that.
Well, yeah, that what he said.
That too, is like, man,I know he's like ultimately.
Right.
But if I somebody say
like.
Yeah, Anyway.
All right, so we've gottento the declaration of Independence.
(29:14):
But first we got to blow up the ship.
It is a lot of fun, you know,it's like how they found the pipe.
It's hot as gunpowder.
They start gunpowder,they blow up the ship,
and then we find the smugglers hole.
Saves the day, Nick.
You know, he's got to know that.Get out of the smugglers. So.
All right, meanwhile, in Washington, DC,you're establishing that.
(29:39):
Oh, yeah, baby. Yeah.
We get it
like nine miles to the closest town.
So yeah.
And then they get throwawayline at the end of when they don't get it
anything.
It's like Mission Impossible or.
(30:00):
Yeah.
And then it's like a yeah.
Like that shot
like James Bond mission impossible,like this is, you know,
that I get to do is hike nine milesand then you're back into your own towns.
You know whatMeanwhile, in Washington, DC,
we learned that Abigail is in chargeof the National Archives.
She is played by the wonderful DianeKruger.
(30:21):
I said, I can't stop thinking of thebasement scene of Inglourious Basterds.
We've already talkedabout that on this podcast.
But then in walks the nerdy dude
and Nick cage,and someone is going to steal the video.
I think I need to start saying
do, declaration of Independenceis going to get a little old here.
(30:42):
We have always establishedevery everybody knows
everybody out therethat knows that, national treasure.
The only thing that they recite
is I'm going to stealthe Declaration of Independence.
You know, like, I get it.
It's kind of fitting.
Like the British are going to steal,
like you, that the British bad guysare going to be the ones
(31:02):
to steal the Declaration of Independence.Yeah.
So he tries to warn the,you know, the authorities,
but nobody wants to listen to himbecause, yeah, he he's accusing come from.
And then we get this incredibleexplanation of why the Declaration
of Independence is unsellable,which is unfucking real.
When they show that littlelike many, many montage of it, like,
(31:26):
being lowered into a vaultthat's bigger than Bucky's basement, like,
and it's just one documentin the middle of the room.
It'sI mean, this was a straight rip off of us.
So that's my next thing I said.
The ocean guys can definitely stillthis fucking thing.
Mission impossible.
Yeah, the.
Yeah, it took 11 people, but it only tookthree dudes and one adapter.
(31:50):
So they did like that. Yeah. True.
So any of you have to draw a it
or I said, I said the oceans guyscould definitely steal this.
Oh, wait, is this a two man Ocean's team?
Is what, I put down next.
It's because everybody seesthe same fucking thing in this movie.
(32:12):
It is built on 37 different movies.
Anyway, Q and the bad guys plan,which is my favorite, right?
The bad guys are going underground.
The good guys are going in through,
like, the top,but the bad guys have this dynamite.
Like, if you do, you have that note,They make a note that they were like
like Nick cage in them or like,you know, he's taking a picture
(32:34):
of somebody's badgeand they're like doing like, oh, like,
yeah.
And the other dudes are likejust like like, yeah, yeah.
Going back to the other, like.
And the explosives say, literally,
if y'all looked at that tag,I had to rewind it like five times.
It just says demolition. Like.
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And I was like, what?
Like they just called dynamite.
Yeah. It said.
Yeah, it was the most generic shit ever.
It was just.
And it was just like, this is their plan.
Like,these guys are being smart and everything
that they
know, and and they're goingto go underground and just drill a hole up
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through the bottom, like,suck it down there.
So when, when Nic Cage goes and tellslike the authorities about the bad guys,
there's still the Declarationof Independence.
Why doesn't he give, like,a lot more specifics and like, hey,
this is what they're after,this is who they are.
They're not even from here.
Like, they are like just British.
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They are legal.
Yeah, but
100% specific about who the bad guy isand say, like,
you have to put them under surveillancefor the next month.
They're going to. Yeah.
And they don't think about that in blackRussian movies.
All right, so, Gates and RileyPoole are going through the top.
(33:57):
We've establishedthe bad guys are going underground.
Now. I'm getting very Stanley Goodspeed,the rock vibes here.
I felt some Stanley Goodspeed through thisbecause he's
not only deciphering things.
He's like decoding.
He's being smart about it.
He's,you know, kind of growing some balls here.
(34:18):
My one of my favorite parts of this whole
stealing scene is when, you know,
the the guy, the nerd guy's computercan't decipher Valley Forge, but
Nick can't can when he's like, you know,doing the the black like thing on thing.
And the funniest thing is, like,why wouldn't Valley Forge come up?
But like, a very gulf came up and like,all these, like, random terms
(34:42):
of, like, nobody's ever heard ofthis shit is like an American. Like
like the.
Yeah, the easiest, the laziest thingpossible
was for an art national archivist.
Like, yeah.
Anyway, all right.
Characters.
No, no, just all capitals.
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Just that way. But like, you got this.
This scene was also very fucking missionimpossible to go.
Yeah, yeah.
Because the bad guys.
No, he still thethe Declaration of Independence.
The bad guys comein. They're in the hallway.
They're shooting it.
It's a bulletproof glass.
They've talked about that already.
Yeah.
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And then he gets in.
But he was thinking about it like theI mean, yeah, it was bulletproof,
but I believe that.
Yeah that's a good point there.
Just like now they talked about it. It's.
Yeah it's shoot.
Yeah. Shoot him at least.
Anyway, Ben, Ben Gates gets awaywith the Declaration of Independence.
(35:46):
The gift shopdoll scene is, one of my favorites.
So he's walking through the gift shop.
He's got it tucked between his jacket.He has to pay for it.
This was this.
This gave us the whole reason why,like Harvey Keitel and them get involved.
It's because he only has 30 to, like 75.
It's $35.
He has to use his credit card now.
(36:06):
We got to an hour been traced.
Yeah, thatlike I don't know if you noticed that.
Like, you know, they show captainhis money in this card right there.
And this is, like,very prominently in the.
Oh, yeah, product placement.
Then we get an incredible car chase scenebecause he gets out
with the Declaration of Independence.
But the bad guys show upbecause they find out about it
and come up through the ground in theircar and their food truck.
(36:34):
Yeah.
It is pretty into that food truck.
Could get up and go.
I'm telling you, it was like a take.
And then I wrote, where did the cops goat the end of the car chase scene
like this? Is it Grand theft auto?
They just like, there'sno way a food truck and a fucking huge
van can get away from, like,nine cop cars.
(36:57):
Where the cops that.
Yeah,
yeah,all of that shooting and the stealing
of the Declaration of Independence,like you
nation.
And there was, like, 30 shots fired infront of that National Archives building.
So like, it's I don't know,you'd think they'd still be on it.
(37:19):
They are.
Oh, God.
I wrote, God damn it, HarveyCartel incomes a detective.
Here we go. We gotta keepeverybody in the.
I want to say the love.
I don't know why.
Keep everybody in this building.This gala?
We got to check them all.
Harvey Cartel's doing this thing like,you know,
my one of my favorite thingsI can't quote.
(37:40):
This is not verbatim, butwhen he was like, who was getting shot at?
Who was doing the shooting andand why were they shooting or something
like that?
I was like, that's the dumbest fuckingthis is CSI shit.
Yeah. You're right. Yeah, yeah.
Big, big ups to big Red.
(38:01):
Yeah.
Anyway,all right, let's be back to the movie
because we're moving pretty quick.All right?
We got awe've got a detective established.
We got bad guys, we got good guys.
We got, you know, questionable, blunt headed,
executivedirector of the National Archives.
Yeah.
The whole thing isthey've stolen this document,
and they think there's a mapon the back of it. Right.
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But they have to go back to Lalosomewhere to
uncover the map that's on the back.
Which leads to another clue.
I call it the con air clue.
They go to John, his dad, his dad.
And who has these letters, right?
(38:42):
Some silence do good.
Which I
not yet found.
I love the explanation.
Ben Franklin was writing lettersas a 40 year
old woman when he was 15 years old.
Yeah, like prank calling.
Anyway, then we gotta, get with these.
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Silence. Do good letters, right?
We don't know what they're for yet,but we're about to find out real quick.
So we're going to visit dad.
So what's on the back of the Declarationof Independence?
With some lemon juice and a hairdryer?
They wouldn't have figured out.
And fucking 1800s lemon juice and,
(39:24):
until they got the hairdryer.
Yeah.
What do we found out?
We found another clue.
now we've got to figure out what,
you know, sentence, paragraphand line and letter and word and whatever.
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So we got a big clue here.
That's why I call it the con air clueis because it's like when when, John,
your favorite guy, Cusack is liningup, like,
all those letters on theBible from, you know, Cyrus,
something that
when I think about Lerner Airport,
you know, like,so you got these 1700 dudes, like,
(40:08):
going around their townthat, like, barely built, like,
all right, let's you
hold on. God.
Although I know that
references lettersyou read to your brother's paper.
What? Here? That 40 year old.
Yeah.
Yeah, know.
Figure it out. Kenneth.
It's one two, three four.
(40:32):
And it'll be five.
Nobody will find this massive warehousefull of shit.
We stole.
All right, so we've established
that we've got to figure outthat the dad doesn't have the.
Let's do good letters.
They have to go to, like,another fucking place.
Yeah. Philadelphia.
We get establishing shot in Philadelphia.
Beautiful. It's always a bridge.
(40:53):
I feel like love
going to Urban Outfittersto get some clothes, and they're, like,
just trying on different fucking outfits.
I was just like, man,this was really like, we're a 42 year old.
Used to be like, yeah, but like that.
I mean, I don't know, maybe, you know,I mean, there were some
very prominent like product placement.
(41:15):
Yeah. Oh.
All right, so we we need a little kidto go code the letters.
The letters are held upin a archive in Philadelphia.
So we get this little kid, he goes searchto code and shit, they figure it out.
Oh, my God, it's a Liberty Bell.
Another massive American monumentthing, given that kid one
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across the street.
If I could decipher that shit like cheap
$1 in 2004 or, like, two.
Yeah. That's cheap.
Yeah, it is cheap.
All right,so we're at Liberty Bell comes into play.
It's entering the chat.
We have to go visit Independence Hallbecause we found some, like,
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you know, shit, and, you know, whatever.
Apparently, you can just, like,get on the roof of Independence Hall.
Like, so many things, they're just like,all right, here's where it is.
Let's go.
Especially like, how is the
little fucking, like,accessible to anybody?
And like,
because they didn't have the backof the Declaration of Independence,
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they didn't knowsomebody was going to get on that roof.
No one's ever tried to go up in that clocktower before, get on the roof.
But you have to look at exactlyone hour off.
It's not, you know, Daylight SavingsTime was established,
and then the shadow comes overand it's right on this one, brick.
Then you got to go find thatbrick with the.
You never know what nobody's up thereexcept the roofers to like.
(42:44):
They won't see that shit.
I don't know, it's very.
In 200 years or whatever.
Nobody's been up theresmoking a cigaret. Just look at her
on top of every roof and.
All right, all right. That's true.
I don't just.
Yeah, if.
But I'm not lookingat individual bricks, and
(43:04):
I'm not.
I'm not a treasure hunter. You're right.
The next thing I wrote were, how are thebad guys catching on this quick?
Because they're like,way ahead of the game.
They have this map, they have thislike code, and they get back.
Let's have Google Play like
just like his family legacy
and like, has used 60 yearsthis fucking like more than that.
(43:28):
Like hundreds of years. Right.
Like the generations of the Egyptians.
He should
like his family was like the medicineor whatever right now.
So you're just figuring it out? Yeah.
This dude, this international criminalis just like, man, he's like
one of my favorite.
It was
like his henchman was sitting in the vanand he goes, type in Stowe and Liberty
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Bell and, like, it just led him to exactlywhere he need to go.
That's probably.
Yeah, I just need to. Genius.
All right.
In this Freemason, brick,we find glasses,
spectacles, if you will,because let's call it the Ben Franklin.
My favorite is these are, like, 3Dfireworks glasses with the red
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and the blue.
Yeah, they were silver looks like.
So we get the glasses,we figure out that there's another code
in the codein the back of the map and whatever.
Anyway,now we're on a foot chase in the John.
Yeah, we're we're on a foot chase.
We got a split up scene.
We got an awesome. Another chase scene.
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And then they lose the, Declaration of Independence.
That is what's so fucking frustratingabout that whole fucking scene.
It's like there's such a long chase scene,and so many things happen
at the very end.
They trip and fall and drop itand, yeah, take it up.
Just picks it up and the glasses are gone.
The FBI has gates like it all ends in.
(44:55):
Just like a bad way.
Nobody, you know,none of the good guys are winning here.
But that's what you got to do.
You got to get the good guys down.
So you're rooting for them, right?
Bad guys or, you know,they're taking over at this point.
Exactly.
No, we're not bringing up him.
No we're talking yeah.
We're talking about,you know Babyface in a heel.
(45:16):
I get it Next we get the bad guys. The.
This is my favorite.
So we got Nick cage getting trappedby the FBI, and then we got the bad guys.
Just trust the FBI not to be it like this.
Meet up where they're gonna, like, tradeall the shit out at this public place.
It's like, what the fuck?
Or, like, the phone call was like,hey, all the FBI guys listening.
(45:37):
We since you, you know, we'regoing to kill him and run or whatever.
Like, it's like, dude, but they came upwith a critical awesome escape route.
You know, you get Nick cagejumping off the side of that ship and then
gets, like, dragged under by the diverand like, the that that was awesome.
And right before that,we got to New York, established.
(45:58):
We did. We're getting a lot of them.
We're getting a lot of them. Nextwe get to Trinity Church.
This is the next clue.
We get the clue from the glasseson the back of the D.O.A..
And then, you know,
the dots says, Come to Trinity Church,we get to Trinity Church.
Gang is back together.
This is the weirdest part of the movie.
The bad guys and the FBI, and Nick cage
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and everybody arejust letting everybody get together, like.
Like what's happening?
They're a team again.
They made a deal.
The the girl and the nerd made a dealwith the bad guys.
Like, I don't think they're smart enoughto do that.
Especially the executive directorof the National Treasure.
(46:41):
Archives.
Anyway, so we're all back together.
Then we find out the next clue is beneathparking Titan, laying in her Tomb Raider.
Let's pull some dudeout of the basement of a church.
Another thing they just like.
All right, here we go.
Into the back room of the churchand into the boiler room.
(47:01):
And here's the.
And pull this guy's, like, grave out.
Smash in as they pull the grave out.
And then here we are.
We're either way,
right, dude, even like the theI think the most,
the best treasure hunter in the worldwould have stopped at any of these points
and calling a bunch of people and they'relike, dude, I think I'm on to something.
(47:23):
I need some backupor I want y'all to verify this,
or I think I discovered somethingreally cool.
So yeah, and that's the other thing.
One of the thing that bothers me,there's like this fucking international
being this like international criminalor whatever he is.
Like, he obviously has fucking likea lot of money and a lot of like, shit
(47:44):
can't fucking ropes or anythingto this motherfucking thing.
Like he's. Yeah.
Now to go down into, like he's goingto make everybody else do it for him.
And then the demolition bag.
These are like everythingeverybody do it for.
But he was just doing it a lot.
Yeah.
He was a follower a lot in this.
I hated the guy.
(48:04):
Hated the character.
Anyway, they get past the tomb thing.
They climb through this tunnel,and then this one, dude,
one of the henchmen falls, right?
And he falls down this big hole,and I'm like,
they found one of the seven holesto middle earth.
And I legitimately thoughtthis was like the treasure.
(48:26):
Because I've never seen this movie before.
And in my mind, I wanted to beone of the seven holes to middle earth.
And it was,
not that we
were going to be like,what do we what is that?
Seven holes to the middle like?
Correct. We've done a hollow.
Yeah, we'vewe've done a conspiracy theory on this.
There are seven holes.
(48:48):
Middle earth is like.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you're so it's hollow earth. Okay.
There's seven holes to get to.
Hollow Earth.
I do love holes.
All right, so we're down in this. Cool.Like, getting.
This is where, like,The Goonies comes in.
You know, we've, like, we're coming downall these
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rickety, rickety old stairwell, super old
wooden stairwells with ropes everywhere,like, hold up these giant torches.
No, I dude, I want to talk about that.
How the fuck does all this fire worked outhere?
How how did this how did this, chandelier
that lit the entire roomjust survive for 200 years
(49:31):
with, like, a little bit of spark in itto, like, light all this shit up.
Somebody have burned that before, right?
If it's a chandelier.
Yeah, I don't know.
It doesn't make sense. I mean, even, like,
when he gets to the treasure roomwith, like,
his dudelights everything on fire in the room.
It's like.
It's like a butane burner.
(49:51):
It just is burning, you know?
Yeah, yeah,it's the only way to light this up.
anyway, back to the movie.
We found a new tunnel into a room,but we have no treasure.
And then.
Then no treasure.
Since the bad guys, they say,hey, let's make some.
Shut up about Boston.
Let's get these motherfuckers out of here.
(50:12):
They send them way up.
They leave them down there to rot and die.
They said, if nothing's in Boston,we're coming back.
Well,that buys them plenty of time, right?
And then they still thinkthere's no treasure.
But wait, there is a treasure room.
But there's no treasure.
Fuck. Right.
So, But wait, now I'm getting real Goonies
(50:35):
vibes herebecause we're going to take this pipe out
and we're going to put it in this socket,
and we're going to be able to turn itlike this, dude.
he sets up to that thingthat he gets to put the pipe in
and he's like.
That's like, what the.
(50:59):
Their entire lives,
that pipe
buried out about the circle,you have to break that pipe apart.
And using blood is a
correct right here
to get to the bottom of this pit,open a secret room,
and then use the broken pieces of the pipeyou just so happen to still have on you
(51:21):
to fit into this fucking puzzle and crankand turn it up, like, crank it open.
It's hard. It's harder than Zelda.
Yeah, like like what are you fucking up?
That was the worst left. Like,
in this entire movie.
It. How many?
Three times this script was rewritten.
How was that, like? Not like the.
(51:42):
How were they? Like,let's not let's run another one.
That can't be that simple.
Yeah.
Like, God damn it, I knew it was,
I knew it, it was the a boatthat no one could find ever.
Yeah.
And the brand of pipelineslook like old movie for this.
Yep. Right.
That like where that happened.
I was just, like, giving up the fucking.
(52:03):
Yeah. So let's turn it. Let's open it.
Oh, shit.
The fucking treasure.
And we don't get all the treasure at once.
It's great.
They like delay it and the delayit and delay it and then light
this fucking thingand then we're getting, like, who?
The motherfuck transported all this shitdown here like,
(52:24):
holy fucking shit like
that.
Yeah, but who who in Americanhistory did not know
and are kept secretthat all this shit got down here.
There had been 100 peoplethat, like, took that stuff down there.
There's no way like.
(52:44):
And they.
Yeah, they built all of itand built holes and built escape routes.
Yeah.Thanks for keeping that secret. Come.
Yeah. Come check this out over here.
They're. The last thing they said was.
I'm gonna need youto reload all these firewalls.
Before you leave.
So in 200 years,somebody can light this shit up.
Even that, though, it's not even a fuckingsecret like Nick cave gets to that.
(53:10):
Talks with the FBI.
Come to find out, they knew the old us.
Yeah, well, right.
It's like.
It's like area 51, There is so much firein that fucking treasure.
Right. Because you said yes
to getgoing, like further and further back.
It's like they're going to diefrom, like, smoke inhalation.
There's no way there's enough.
(53:32):
Yeah.
I also, don't think I saw any, like, goldcoins of anything of like,
it's like all these big ass statues and,like, scrubs and shit, and I'm like, what?
I'm gonna have to sell this.
Like, what kind of black marketis there for this, right?
How would I make money if I was a bad guy?
How the other, you know. Correct.
(53:53):
But if I was a bad guy,how am I selling this shit?
Right? Like, right.
But yeah, you're probably like,hey, motherfuckers like that shit's ours.
And then you have to, like,return it to all the countries.
All that stuff's fromthat have been pillaged from.
All right.
So let's, let's let's get done with this.
Is the retarded.
(54:19):
Claim or
haven't seen it.
Haven't seen it.
Will watch it.
Can't wait.
Anyway, like that's our forward.
All right,
let's wrap this thing up.
Let's take down the bad guys.
There was a rumor that they didn't showthat.
He's like that a little bit. Covered it.
(54:40):
Yeah.
All right, let's take down the bad guys.
Give the treasure to the world.
Get a big house, get the girl.
Send the dude off in his Ferrari.
The end.
That is done.
There was one last treasure map.
Where does that treasure map lead?
The dookie there, baby, I don't know.
(55:02):
They have a kid. A national treasure, too,
I mean, she yeah.
Yeah that is 2004 is National Treasure.
Or at least our walkthrough of the film.
We have a couple of segmentsthat we like to do.
One is taglines,where we give you the tagline you can find
on, the movie poster.
We will read that to youand give you our version of the tagline
(55:24):
for National Treasure Juice Box.
What do you got?
So there are, at least on IMDb,there are multiple taglines.
One of them is our favorite.
God damn it.
Is it a, John Turteltaub film?
National treasure
from the producer.
Okay,
(55:44):
I think it.
Next.
The greatest adventurehistory has ever revealed.
All right. I got,
national treasure.
Every action movie you've ever heard of.
national treasure getting all.
(56:09):
All right.
I got National Guard.
No, I didn't see any of.
the next
the next segment we have before we get toour ratings is movie marriage.
That's what two movies inspired this.
Like, mom and dad spit outnational treasure.
(56:32):
Maybe followed that map at the end and,
you know, got up in that bigOle old school mansion.
But what movies?
I'm gonna let, Oh, boy go first.
National treasure.
So uncoupled, the rescuers,you all know that movie
with with the with the Chipmunks?
Yeah, yeah.
(56:54):
Because it's like a dad.
Yeah.
I don't know what they're on for,but it's kind of got,
That movie's awesome.
You should shut your kids. Yeah.
And Jonny Quest.
And so those two animated films.
Because I feel like Jonny Quest.
I don't know if y'all remember,Jonny Quest for Jonny Quest
is kind of like a rich kid
(57:16):
with his dad and,
family, and there's always some bad guys,and they're always, like,
hunt down and shit.
It's got a lot of that stuff.
I would love to say Indiana Jones, I don't
know, I wouldn't.
Yeah,
Jesus bucks, Indiana Jones.
(57:38):
Last Crusade
I mean, yeah, I get it.
Because it was like, very much like that.
Like, you know, burying the hatchetwith your dad, right?
Right. Or. Yeah.
And you can.
I mean,even though DaVinci code came after work.
Yeah, like insane, like finding.
And it's even, like, involving theFreemasons and you're like, absolutely.
(58:01):
Yeah.
Y'all are going to hate me,because this week,
my moviemarriage is a entire blender of everything
that has already been mentioned,including, six.
No know,
including the
never ending story, Princess Bride,the Rock.
(58:23):
Let's see.
I can't hear any any movie
that was mentioned in this based offanother movie.
I already said it.
The Goonies, like, it has everyone of these movies rolled up into one,
correct?
The oceans are definitely have that down.
(58:43):
Yeah.
So national treasure.
Anyway, another kind of.
Yeah, it's a good heist movie.
All right, so now let's get into our.
Now, let's get into our ratings of this,national treasure.
Disney's 2004 blockbuster hit.
I'm going to go first this weekbecause I know I want to see what you guys
(59:05):
just ratings are.
This is the first time to explain thisa little bit.
The first time I ever sawthis movie was today.
I have put this off.I was like dreading it.
I didn't want to see it.
I was like, I'm already past it.
You know, this is 21 years ago.
Why would I want to,you know, dive into this?
Other than this exercise we do for castingCage on Bucky's basement?
(59:25):
honestly one timethrough thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
Diane Kruger probably sold it for me.
I don't know if I could watch this
multiple times on like a TBS or TNTor rerun or whatever.
I don't know if I would sit thereand do it.
(59:52):
It's getting my mental rating becauseof that, because I need to see more.
I will be watching National Treasuretwo in anticipation of National Treasure
three, because I love theseover-the-top bullshit con air con.
Yeah, there is going to be a threethese con air phase.
So fucking over-the-top moviesthat are unbelievable,
(01:00:12):
predictable.
I wish I, I want to see this in a darkroom in a theater or something like that.
So predictable. Yes.
Yeah. Fuck you.
All right, here we go.
Sure.
Yeah. One, two. Three.
All right.
I'll just.
Yeah.
(01:00:37):
are movies.
It's a lot.It's got a lot of things going for it.
It's got things it wants to be.
There's a formula.
I was writing it down and it's.
It's the James Bond Indiana Jones.
It starts out at the tailend of a mission.
And then there's
a little bit of a return to normalcyand grabs on this next mission.
And, you know, it'sand then it's the bad guys
(01:00:59):
and the good guys are goingafter the same McGuffin.
You know, it's the same thing.
But this just fall short.
It does not.
Well, you were talking about young peopleliking it, and I dated this girl
that was younger than me,that talked about this movie,
talked about how good it was, and I waslike, it can't be better than Indiana.
So she was like, that's that, like fucking
(01:01:20):
dude, this doesn't hold
up. I just it was predictable and just.
For me.
Okay.
And she sparks.
Really?
(01:01:40):
It was just too much of.
Just, like everything that had come beforefor everyone.
Like, movie that you just named offis the reason, like,
I don't want to watch this moviebecause it was just, like, so generic
and so ripped offfrom so many other movies.
They're all fun.
There was nothing originalabout this movie, right?
There was just like,I mean, and I guess maybe in 2004,
(01:02:03):
like doing a free magazine storywith like, cutting edge.
Yeah.
You know,maybe that is like the, you know.
Yeah, maybe that was like the hot thing,you know,
there was like people that were like,oh, God,
they're like controlling the worldor whatever.
And, it falls flat now, and I don't reallyrecommend anybody to watch this movie.
(01:02:24):
And I will never write like go watch agood like, yeah, I watched you two times.
And the second time going throughit was just like fucking
dude, I ate like I was doing itlast night.
I ate so many just random snacksthat were just at my house
because I was just, like, getting bored,like watching this movie and like,
(01:02:44):
take these,
like, kind of like I'm gone in 60s like,we shit on that.
But it was like ahead of the curveon those, Fast and Furious movies.
So maybe this was like ahead of the curveon Conspiracy Theory,
Knights Templar or whateverthey are that. So
I guess I,I guess I don't know, but it does.
(01:03:05):
It does a
we're not watching this in 2004.
We're watching us in 2025.You're obsessed.
And, you know, you were talking aboutlike old age movies or whatever, like
Wild at Heart came out 35 years ago,
and I would still watch that moviea hundred thousand times before.
I was like,
like, yeah, different tastes.
(01:03:28):
You guys almost are convincing meto change my rating to the best rating,
because this is the definitionof a fucking film.
And you got to go backand think of the guy who made it.
Three ninjas.
Cool runnings phenomenon.
Over American history,which I know you love.
(01:03:49):
American.
Yeah, historyis probably the most boring history.
Well, just just wait, just wait.
We've got, about six moviesuntil the next national treasure.
Speaking of that, we have we've come toa conclusion on 2004 is national Treasure.
Let's give youwhat's up next on Casting Cage.
It is a 2005 crime thriller,
(01:04:11):
sitting at a two hourruntime called Lord of War.
It stars Nick Cage and Jared Leto.
(01:06:23):
that's what we have coming up next.
For you and casting cage, as always,we have, you know, our fast pitch episodes
where we write movies in 15 minutes.
Please go, on and check those outat Bucky's basement.
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