August 9, 2023 • 68 mins
Axl Rose appears on the cover in one of his many disguises, and we're plunged back in time to the heady days of October 1987, when Kerrang deemed it appropriate to feature T'Pau, Then Jericho and Jethro Tull. Finally a Tull feature! We examine how well preserved Ian Anderson is now, in comparison to how wizened he seemed in ‘87, and ponder the finer points of Christmas music.
In addition, Kerrang give us the best Mötley Crüe article we've had yet, but what makes it different? The answer may shock you. Also appearing in this issue: Bad News! Faster Pussycat! Joan Jett! Pan’s People!
There's also a Marillion feature but we run out of time before we get to it. And lots of stuff about Friends (or do I have to write it as “F.R.I.E.N.D.S” now, like KISS?)
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[Music]
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very funny about Metal all right we're
recording we're rolling Jimmy we're
rolling
um
okay okay how do we do this again
um
uh welcome back listeners smooth
welcome back rockers and metal heads
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um
I hope we played the theme tune was that
happened before this in last episode was
the premiere yeah no I know that but the
theme tune has it like come before or do
we say like welcome and then it goes no
I've got I've got a good idea for how
I'm going to use the theme tune this
time but it depends on what we talk
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about during the episode oh
but yeah I'll tell you after
brother
don't care I was mildly interested and
uh
um
okay how have you been
uh yeah very well thank you
very nice you had a nice day
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um
so you won't really high then oh
I mean it's been it's been a day where
it's ten past six and I've got some
wines so it's been that day nice
um have you got one of those signs that
says it's wine o'clock
uh wines day oh Wednesday is quite a
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good one are those Thursday in it it is
Thursday yeah but
it's supposed to be Wednesday
so
yeah
okay okay
so welcome to canopod with Madness uh
episode 15 I believe this is 15.
um this is the podcast that everyone's
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talking about
uh where we review uh old issues of
karang and metal hammer and maybe maybe
other things I haven't got two yet
um
from the 80s the greatest decade
would you agree with that
yeah although 90s though I'm getting
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quite nostalgic of the 90s but we're
going to do some 90s cranks at some
point
um
well it can do but it always can be
grungy nonsense it
I think there's going to be some
like hair metal bands I think you're
more like friends and Curtis tigers and
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stuff like that we can talk about Curtis
stigers if you want simply red uh
Michael Bolton although he spans every
decade do you know a good fact about
friends right and we're watching friends
now we're re-watching friends now I find
I mean this is not 80s on there also
don't switch off I'm not gonna talk
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about friends all the time but that you
find when you re-watch it
you tend to like a different character
more or a different way like the very
last time that we watched all the way
through I was dead into us for some
reason not like fancying just thought oh
he's the best character yeah but like
now
I think I'm more thinking Chandler I
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don't know but it's just weird and how
it changes maybe it's your stage of life
whether you're relating to someone more
at that stage Maybe
yeah last I think last time I watched it
I really disliked that one where Phoebe
was pretending
pretending to not believe in evolution
I don't think I realized that halfway
through she changes her opinion but I
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was just I was really annoyed with it
and like this time I thinking oh no
she's she's just playing she's just
having fun with it isn't she yeah
okay so my fact about friends okay and I
might have been hallucinate I think it
was like one of the many lockdowns
wasn't it we were watching it in the
first time we re-watched it yeah and
we've obviously not got to that point
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yet because I've been looking out for it
but on Monica's fridge at some point in
that series she has the cover of return
to Olympus by malfunction right okay so
malfunction
were just a two two-man group from
Seattle and they became Mother Love Bone
and Mother Love Bone became Pearl Jam
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right
but I didn't know that this this is
I mean well you don't
there's never a close-up but I'm
convinced that's what it is but it's
already like 95 or 96. so it's like
several years after that would have been
current
[Music]
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[Music]
foreign
does not seem like someone who would
have been into they're sort of like Glam
Rock meets kiss meets sort of
Punk
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I mean I'll point it out when we see I
mean
I could be completely wrong about it but
I'm convinced that that's it because
fun fact did you know that they've got a
Yorkshire Tea tin on there yes because
you pointed that out yeah and we had
that exact tin full of sewing stuff yeah
like you do
um but yeah how weird is that it was the
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gold metal Yorkshire Tea tin that they
gave away you know I went to bags
obviously and the thing where you could
buy the Yorkshire Titan which I don't
think they've done for a while now but
um yeah how weird is that so like super
exotic in New York yeah and I don't
think it was um
after they've been to London I think
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it's before that because obviously it
makes sense if they go to London for
Rossi's wedding and then they get it
that would make sense wouldn't it but I
don't think I think it's before that
just interesting well I mean it's
possibly not interesting but it kind of
is interesting
and the only thing you notice is
interesting isn't it I mean the other
day I think it was Joey's room welcome
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to the Friends Podcast
and I'm positive again you don't see
this stuff close up but I was positive
that there's a wind-up
Jack Nicholson Joker from the first
Batman movie yeah like a tin toy and I'm
sure
they just it just sort of had the look
of Jack Nicholson even though it was you
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know in the background and
probably wasn't at all it is why
wouldn't it be in that
it could be it could be yeah it could be
I mean if you know right in let us know
let us know what your opinions on
friends don't say wow wow you know don't
don't do that
all opinions you don't know if you don't
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like friends just move along
we don't need to have a conversation
about it
so other than right friends from
what like seven years after so a million
years ago we're still talking about old
things now this is classes yeah this is
a Nostalgia podcast isn't it because we
talk about when we Veer off from the
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magazines that we're talking about we
still talk about old [ __ ] don't we well
that's because we don't know we don't
know any new [ __ ] yeah
so this week
um I've got an issue of karang from
October the 10th 1987. but before we go
into that I just wanted to go through
some of the charts with you and I think
we've looked at a similar chart to this
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so I won't go through everything
so the bgs were number one with you win
again right you remember that song
uh kiss our favorites uh crazy crazy
nights it was number five uh Michael
Jackson's Bad was at number six
at number seven and number nine was I
Found Love In right by the Fatback Band
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and Steve Walsh right and do you want to
tell our listeners who might not know
DJ Steve Walsh well I'd say you don't
know Steve Walsh
um I would look at YouTube Lily and
Steve Walsh and then that'll tell you
everything you need I mean
probably won't tell you everything you
need to know but it'll tell you enough
it'll tell you it it might be what you
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not what you want but it is what you
need to watch his video
um
yeah I mean
it's it's not bad
um but maybe I've just heard it so many
times now that I've sort of got
desensitized to
his particular I mean he's he's all
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right singer he's he's isn't all right
but he was a DJ who
I think that record is based on his late
night gigs where he would sing along to
backing tracks but he shouts you what
you what you what you what you want over
the top of white Classic's owner
yeah obviously well he's put his spin on
it I guess is what he did on his radio
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show but anyway
so numbers number 11
Sisters of Mercy this corrosion
do you like that song do you know that
song sing it
right okay so it's
it goes oh no hey now now oh yeah
so that's not
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metal but it's sort of karang adjacent
isn't it
um yeah I guess so it's like goth but
it's produced by Jim Steinman and it's
like this big sort of epic
production
number which you know I mean that stood
out to me I wanted to mention it
I'm written down the number actually
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I did actually save the link of the UK
chart
the computers just gone to sleep because
of course I'm gonna have to cut this
[ __ ] out
with professional podcasters
um
right so somewhere in the not sort of
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mid-reaches of the chart
is a song
otapow
number 31 heart and soul
um so there's this song Hey Matthew by
Carol fialka do you know that song
um I don't think so I feel like this is
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something Lindy's talked about but I
Googled let me hey Matthew and nothing
came back so I'm gonna
um I'm gonna play this song I'm gonna
say oh look I was Cooper but it's on
you created that it's on one of our many
playlists uh if this is your first
episode you're probably thinking why the
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[ __ ] are they talking about friends and
Steve Walsh
um
get over here you can't live on metal
alone there's other stuff in the world
isn't there yes it's 90 metal
10 of the [ __ ]
um
every episode we make a YouTube playlist
of some of the stuff we talk about
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this corrosion on there but
so yeah this weird novelty here
by this guy called Carol fialka
family grammarly
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[Music]
so you get the idea right
[Music]
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that's meant to mean something and
actually it's just a little bit painful
for everyone involved well it's like ah
TV's bad isn't it you're making kids
watch TV and it's all violence and [ __ ]
do you not remember that no it was
locked out okay well yeah there's a
little boy in the Spider-Man out of here
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he's a pretty good Spider-Man outfit
um and he's commenting
on the TV of the 80s and
The A Team and [ __ ] he says
listing TV programs that's not really a
comment yeah but um I'm really yeah I'm
surprised you don't remember that okay
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there you go hey Matthew counter for
Yorker is that it you're just telling me
about it
thought you'd go oh yeah
yeah
um all right
so let's put a bit of grown man now I
know
I you know when they made Spider-Man
no way home you know the one that Toby
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Maguire and Andrew Garfield and Tom
Holland I wanted them to put him in it
just
I mean maybe he's in across the spider
verse which we've not seen
uh maybe
um okay so let's look at this issue of
karang it's number 157.
[Music]
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through the front
and who's this on the cover
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
[Applause]
s x-rose
um
so like this is
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Axl Rose in his sort of um you know he's
got a lot of disguises right this is his
Welcome to the Jungle disguise isn't it
yeah but the only time you ever saw him
with like big back Comb hair yeah was
Welcome to the Jungle uh so in addition
to that they blurt out her
on his tattoo
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um
this is not blurred oh foreshadowed
boobs out he's got a sexy woman on his
arm but I don't I think he's just a face
I don't think there was a body involved
oh okay it was just the way that the
magazine was covered I thought she had
boobs out and dead bird it well you know
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maybe he had it added to it later on
maybe I don't
uh so in this issue Halloween Death
Angel Motley Crew then Jericho Jethro
Tull
Faster Pussycat heart do UK tour dates
and win a compact disc player
so that is very good that is exciting
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uh yeah so in the new section
um
do you remember the Hofmeister of
Meister bear uh yeah
uh
there's a lot of sort of adverts of
Banks and stuff and like getting young
people to have bank accounts that's
because 80s capitalism it was it was a
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thing wasn't it big money money money
money Wall Street the Midland bank had
those pigs
yeah
yeah uh but this is getting LP versus
naught Pence
and the Hofmeister bear who was like
supposed to be like a kind of cool
character that you're supposed to like
because he's cool like his hat he's got
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a little he's got like an Arthur David
looks like he's gonna did you see that
scar dancing thing I forgot to mention
when I said it to you that just it was
my like worst nightmare
for some reason scar dancing just
it was One Step Beyond in three
different versions isn't it yeah just
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I'm not a fan of Scar dancing I didn't
know it was a cover I thought it was
just Madness had done it and I guess
some American
scar punk band also did it
um but he looked at the sort of man or
bear who would um do some Scarlet but
the jacket's not very scar is it jackets
pure 80s
oh you've got to wear a coat if you're
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going out if he's in a nightclub he's
not gonna be wearing the jacket yeah but
would scar boys have won
no
obviously we need to do a bit of
research
oh no yeah I missed something
um so
oh [ __ ] I haven't got my glasses I
didn't need to get my glasses
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Just Talk Amongst yourselves
sorry
edit that about
yeah oh I am
edit nothing
I always say I'm gonna edit everything I
never do so Def Jam will issue the
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soundtrack for the movie less than zero
in the US before uh mid October so have
you ever seen the film less than zero no
I think so uh it's based on the cult
novel by Brett Eastern Ellis which deals
with dissolute wealthy Los Angeles
teenagers leading shallow lives riddled
with drugs and immorality and it seems
like the sort of film you like because
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Robert Downey Jr is in it and
um
like all people of that generation like
uh [ __ ] star
Jamie Gert
isn't it
um but the soundtrack includes
by Slayer originally recorded by Iron
Butterfly rock and roll rock and roll
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all night by poison
cover of the kiss classic I mean they
don't really need to say that do they
and rocking pneumonia and the Boogie
Woogie flu by Aerosmith first recorded
by Huey Smith
so it's all cover versions and it's also
got um
Hazy Shade of Winter by The Bangles so
you know that video
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I don't know if you've ever seen it also
on the playlist
well we should watch this film
I was gonna say because
no that's the trailer
uh did not sponsored yet
I'll just turn it down a bit
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yeah obviously this has got all bits
from the filming
so it's so young sexy Iron Man's in it
come on he's sexy whatever age is true
has it got Andrew Andrew McCarthy yeah
oh my God why have we not mannequins we
can have Bernies come on
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do you remember watching something and I
was positive it was Andrew McCarthy it
wasn't it was uh and uh Ant-Man number
who did you think was one of the evil
suits in Ant-Man you know those those
people who work with
the places yeah bad the office the bad
office and um one of the men is
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um Andrew McCarthy but it's apparently
not but I think it is his son or
something
what no it's so amazes him oh he's an
older man who looks like Andrew McCarthy
yeah and we've had this conversation
that I said and we looked it up and it
wasn't and I was like I'm sure it is
though
he changed his name for that one first
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well look right I'll Google
um it was Ant-Man
um
Ant-Man cast
and no no no no no no no was he a famous
actor
um well he is Andrew McCarthy
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no him Mike Donovan who
Andrew well apparently Martin Donald and
this is like um
you know how people think Jackson's
still alive and stuff I think this I
mean Andrew McCarthy is dead so I don't
know why he's decided to
oh that's him younger
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Martin Donaldson see the same guy oh
right yeah I remember this guy yeah but
look at him what else has he been in
he's been a lot of [ __ ] wicking at
Bernie's one two a mannequin
what is he actually making because
that's gonna bother me look at that look
at that he's
he's similar stop it
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I went on the Wikipedia page from
Ant-Man and it's also see also list of
films featuring miniature people ah
borrowers
um
anyway I don't know how
because we write so Andrew McCarthy yeah
I got it
um so also this this leads into the next
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feature also Joan Jett is on the
soundtrack
um
yeah she's but she's doing an original
song but she says some stuff in this
feature that I quite liked so Jones says
she likes covering other people's songs
because quote I'm not the only person in
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the world who writes good Joan Jett
songs I Love Rock and Roll was a great
Joan Jett song it was perfect for me but
I didn't write it
that Twisted Sister a couple of years
back we're not going to take it that
would have been perfect for me so would
you've got to fight for your right to
party by the Beastie Boys there's a lot
of great material out there it's just a
case of finding it but it seems like a
really sort of nice like most artists
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wouldn't say that most artists would be
like of course I write all of their
songs yeah
um
she talks about my acting because you
know that film with Michael J fox that
she did is that was her her first big
acting role I mean we talked about it on
another episode
uh light of day where she paid she plays
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a rocker and he's her brother
okay
I mean it's not a well-known film but we
did have a conversation we need a phrase
for when it's one of these situations
where apparently you've been talking to
my Alter Ego we need a safe word I
wasn't there
um
it's called age
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uh it's a powerful human drama and
co-starring uh Michael J fox
um
she says I always used to be offered the
part of some weirded out 27th century
space queen
oh always
I mean I want to know more about all
these films that feature 20 27th century
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space Queens
um
there you go so that's Joan Jett uh our
next uh feature is about Jethro Tull
how exciting so you are not a fan of
Jethro Turner I don't mean I'm not not a
fan I'm just not a fan
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um have you never heard any because
obviously listeners I'm
that [ __ ] tall obsessive
so you've you look you'll have heard me
listening to their stuff right so have
you never heard anything that
jangled your bell
um
Solstice Bells I mean that's a good
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start
[Music]
but because Christmas I mean
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there's there's some Christmas songs
that are sung by
people
who are now canceled and they're good
Christmas songs I'm saying it basically
my threshold is pretty low there's a
Christmas song I'm gonna like it I like
the Bass Hunter Jingle Bells if you've
not heard beethovens or Jingle Bells
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honestly check it out because that is
good
um
Basin has not been Dancy no no but um
yeah it's and Cheeky Girls Christmas
there's there's not bad but you don't
like the Cheeky Girls cheeky Christmas
cake from Big Brother
this time of year that one
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I mean that was a good rendition
yeah it sounded like him I know it did
um yeah so
the song but I'm just saying my bar is
pretty low to to go back to talking
about people who've been canceled
uh Joan Jett has covered a song by
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uh
popular artist from the 70s who is known
canceled who had a Christmas song
and
um big hair big big hair big shoulders
yeah okay yeah yeah that guy
um
but yeah there's a Jethro Tull Christmas
album
is that yeah it also yeah you you've you
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must have noticed me putting
more than Solstice bells on our
Christmas places you put some nonsense
on our Christmas playlist yeah there was
that one year where you were meant to be
putting songs on it obviously and then
you just put you put something really
weird like a
so if I can't remember it wasn't so 20
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minute television programs I've got
Clips I put like Christmas eclipse and I
put like
um like BBC announcements oh yeah we
obviously we like that we like we've
spent evenings
watching
BBC are they called items yeah I didn't
and like continuity between programs
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with people we've watched videos of that
yeah I'm a big fan but it needs to be
for some of our more normal listeners do
you want to explain the appeal of
watching old YouTube clips of BBC
continuity announcements
um just makes you feel good doesn't it
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it's nice Nostalgia it's just nice and
you do a very good impression do an
impression um maybe I'll do it later and
cut it in just do it
okay well I mean the sort of thing
you're talking about is it's it's always
80s yeah and they're always old very
very well spoken yeah gently it's before
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the BBC or the ITV
had Regional accents it was you know you
had to sound like the queen to talk on
television and they all say things like
Christmas entertainment on BBC Two at 6
30 the two Ronnie's Christmas special
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it's that sort of thing yeah I mean I'm
cutting an actual one I mean people
don't want to hear me no keeping you
you're spelling I like yours
um
get very self-conscious it's one of my
favorite things you do now yeah that's
what's keeping us together my BBC
continuity
um so yeah the toll have got like
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they've got a song called a Christmas
song and they've got a song called
another Christmas song and then they can
see the pattern they released a whole
album of Christmas songs they called
Christmas songs uh there's one called
Birthday card at Christmas
as well no one's a birthday Christmas
last man at the party that's another one
Jesus and none of them as as good as
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salty spells all right
um so this article last Christmas
they don't do no no they do like
you know traditional Christmas songs in
this sort of froaky Jazzy
you know they do We Three Kings
flutes and [ __ ] flutes and [ __ ] yeah
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yeah be good you should listen to it I
mean I've I have made you listen to it
in the past but you just obviously just
blocked out
so this this article is about
the fact that they're kind of coming up
on their 20th anniversary and they're
basically saying they're all old men
so I looked I looked it up and Ian
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Anderson at this stage he was 40.
he's 40 there as an old man he's
he's 40. so he's okay cool slightly
younger than you a lot younger than me
but like the funny thing have you seen
him recently 75 now
right he looks
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he looks all right
I mean not to keep your friends but Jeff
hotel are mentioned in friends okay yeah
Phoebe talks wrong and she talks about I
think she talked about sleeping with her
or something and then one of them goes
I'm Jethro till a band
because she sort of talked about like an
individual and she goes yes they are or
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something
um we haven't got to that one yet I
don't think I've imagined that no now
you say it though but I'll see him at
75. he looks like yeah he looks good
there I mean his voice is gone
well he wrecked his voice in about 1984.
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um and the whole thing is they did an
album called crest of a Nave which was
kind of a comeback because they did some
sort of electronic stuff in the 80s and
then this one was a bit more Rocky and
bluesy but people said it was like Dire
Straits because he's singing lower
and it's just a bit more sort of I mean
it's proper dad rock my dad actually
liked it right because my dad liked the
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blues
um and I don't think he would have been
interested in Jethro Tull's like prog
rock or folk rock periods but he liked a
well-played guitar so he had
he had I think he had crest of a name on
taping up 20 years of Jethro Tull which
is the box set
and
I I mean he might have been a bit
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dyslexic because he wrote Jethro tough
t-o double double F on the tape so I
always think
t-o-s t-u-s so so I was sort of think
jeffo tough
um
yeah so that's uh that's my Jethro tour
story
um
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and there's a cat in the background
obviously Jethro Tull well Ian Anderson
big camera cats right
be kind of cats and he named a solo
album after one of his cats called rupee
rupee's dance we did that
um and for some reason they put they've
printed a photo from 1976 I believe
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which is in Anson with well I mean you
want to describe this
well I was a bunch of lady with their
breasticles out but but they've got like
things over the nipples that's actually
pans people
they they wrote some music for pounds
people to dance to
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um and yeah I guess that was a promotion
image for that
um
so moving and so people fancy them back
in the day I can understand people
finding them now like he looks looks
good nice little art he's done that
fancy thing with his scarf that I taught
you how to do he's done a scarf now
she's gone nice jacket on like he'd take
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you to a nice coffee place when he can
get you
coffee and probably a pastry nice but
younger days
um
I mean like I can talk my hair at the
moment but it's just it's funny that
we've stopped on this photo because the
the headline that goes along with it is
quote nobody could deny I looked great
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in those tights
he wore tights a lot in the 70s
um
some people that's him
it's just not a look that appeals to me
that's that's really early on that's
like Blues period
great if I if straighteners had never
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been invented my hair would not be
dissimilar to that but you wouldn't have
a beard and a flute though yeah
I don't have a flute
good attempt at a beard
so around about this time or maybe a
little bit after there was a documentary
called fish and sheep and rock and roll
and it was on channel four and I'll put
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it on the playlist
well it's an hour of there's about 10
minutes of music in it and 50 minutes of
in answer on the phone talking about his
farm because he he bought a salmon farm
in like the late 70s efficient one and
like there's this whole program and it's
(33:55):
it's hard to know who it's aimed at
because it's just long people like your
dad boring stuff about farming but my
dad doesn't like fishing
yeah but not fish farming
I don't know
yeah probably
you're so interested in there maybe they
were thinking
yeah for people who like Jethro Tull
(34:16):
would want to see the band and hear the
band so we had a salmon fish farm yeah
yeah for many years I don't think he's
got it in a fish Farm's just somewhere
where they breed fish and eat them well
they sell them to apparently they were
the main supplier for salmon in the UK
for like places like Marks and Spencers
(34:37):
and stuff
well I mean I'm like I know your
feelings on any kind of farming so it's
not side eye it's not great it's not
great but you know
um so they expect more from a tight
wearing flute
um if you're not the biggest [ __ ]
hippie on the planet and you look like
(34:58):
that then you're doing something wrong
you should be more of a hippie than I am
well I think people different times yeah
people didn't know as much back then
yeah
so talking at a different type of God
uh we get like a very interesting
article about Motley Crew
(35:20):
so obviously
we love a bit of the crew on this
podcast don't we we talk about the crew
all the [ __ ] time this article's got
loads of stuff I've never heard before
and it's quite well written and there's
a reason for that but we'll get to it
um so it mentions that they've got a
they've got their own Lear jet
(35:42):
I think this is the girls girls tour
they've got their own Lear jet
um and the nose of the Learjet was going
to be tattooed with the new Motley
Insignia a bent over blonde stripper in
garters
okay sadly
sadly not a photograph of that
um we can all imagine it the yes graphic
(36:04):
design is it's red lettering on a dark
blue background so it's very hard to
read
now freezing Heat at the hairdressers
every day and they still do stuff like
that do they they're really bad text on
and it was like badly printed and I just
thought
who is it as bad as this because I
literally can't read some of this it was
(36:24):
really bad and it really surprised me
so he what do you do I mean don't
don't read Heat but
yeah I mean red small text on a
blue gradient background is fun enjoy
I mean where it gets lighter you can
(36:45):
sort of read it
um
I will try with this bit maybe you need
young thighs young eyes during the trip
the crew admire the many swimming pools
speckling the landscape below
speckling the landscape below how poetic
Nikki Sixx who as Chief songwriter is
the acknowledged brains of the outfit
(37:06):
announces quote I want to pull the shape
of a [ __ ] okay it went from poetic to
exactly what we'd expect a loud B pink
sound from the cockpit reminds of the
crew of flying hijinks from the band's
six-year pass like the time Vince Neil
took the Pilot's controls and nearly
crashed into another plane [ __ ] hell
why would you let Vince Neil anywhere
(37:27):
near a [ __ ] plane I would be asking
at what point in history this was and
may be suggesting that yeah we
still Vince Neil to say for hobbies yeah
I mean this is after that is it yeah oh
my God
um
all the time
(37:50):
all the time the group's plane lost
power and the wheels had to be manually
cranked down quote we were all going oh
my [ __ ] God our career's over says
Nikki Sixx
imagine being on a plane and Vince Neil
takes I would
throw myself out that plane just save
the hassle of the next five seconds of
(38:11):
me going down with it
I wouldn't actually no I won't get in a
plane with Monica because that would be
stupid it's a death wish there's some
good pull-out quotes with the photos so
Mick Mars quote my brains are oatmeal
same Vince Neil it's hard relate to
(38:31):
mcmars now
old and just slightly forgetful Vince
Neil if the crew hadn't happened quote I
would be one of those guys in Hawaii
that rents you jet skis
yeah he totally would Tommy Lee quote I
had a dream I wanted to play the drums
upside down
now Nikki Sixx quote I don't understand
(38:53):
U2's music it's too serious they bum me
out okay I mean I can relate with some
of it
um occasionally the crew do make a
suggestion the liner notes on theater of
pain asked fans to send in pictures
quote you know what kind we like oh my
God the band received four 4 000
(39:16):
Polaroids of body parts so all
I've always thought of us as a
psychiatrist of rock and roll to six
because the kids come to see us get all
this anxiety and progressing out that
hour and a half is theirs no one can
take it away no parent can tell them to
turn it down I've when I've um needed to
psych myself up for you know
(39:38):
things I've uh listened to monacoota
fully fully fully agree with that
um it says originally the the band had
planned on this is on stage
they plan to emerge from between a giant
woman's legs
(40:01):
oh um It quotes some lyrics
right and I mean
this is sort of beyond the pile now but
they published it
she's only 15. she's the reason I can't
sleep you say illegal I say legal's
never been my scene
what sounds that fun uh all in the name
(40:22):
of
do you know that song
uh
so they're talking about uh Vince Neil
to be interviewed he has to be pried
from chatting up two leggy models who
are staying in the room next door he
Marvels that even though the models had
(40:43):
spent the entire previous night hanging
around in his room they didn't tear off
his clothes it's okay he says with a
gleeful laugh laying the foundation
before you build the size skyscraper
um and it says he still calls everyone
dude and skateboards backstage
um
(41:04):
in the midday in a blazing Arizona heat
Mick Mars is nursing a hangover
um he's what he's got a curtains drawn
watching an episode of Kung Fu on TV
Mars the least social of the crew looks
like Paul Williams wearing Adam's Family
wig
born in Indiana the son of a factory
Foreman moved to California when he was
(41:25):
eight he changed his name he says
because the initials were bad and it was
bad luck for me
twice dessert twice divorced he says
he's quote real picky about girls
there's too much disease going around
I I would want to know whether he
divorced them or whether he
whether they divorced him his hobbies
(41:48):
are his Corvette and dabbling in his
eight-track home studio that we can
quote extensively from penthouse's Forum
he admits I'm not too big on reading
okay there's some more good quotes
um
Tommy Lee has the most tats brackets
tattoos of anyone in the band
(42:09):
uh I like the fact they had to explain
what attacks I shouldn't say I wouldn't
have understood
um he's now married to Heather Locklear
marriage is great he's very cool says
the man who admits he used to [ __ ]
anything with a pulse if I wasn't
married I'd probably be dead the
partying and stuff
even though he's a family man Lee has no
(42:31):
problems with the image of women that
the band projects quote it never enters
my mind I really don't think about
anything I just do it
foreign
Motley Crue is wearing underpants so
before sliding into his leather stage
pants for a photo shoot Nikki Sixx wipes
his rear with a towel which he then
tosses at his band mate who flee in all
(42:51):
directions
we're on tour again cries Vince Neil
God continued on page 38. oh green
um
one result of Nikki Sixx's addiction
(43:12):
always problems with addiction is the
the song Dancing on glass which declares
I've been through hell and I'm never
going back to dancing on glass quote I'm
not mellowing out he says I'm just
street smart about it
mellowing out would kill the motley
image but how long can it continue
(43:33):
six now lives surrounded by antiques in
the spotless house something warm about
old things he says and his impending
marriage to vanity seem to dampen this
self-destruct views so they talk about
his marriage to vanity he was like one
of Prince's Protege in the dirt and
obviously that all went terribly wrong
but at this point obviously it's you
(43:53):
know it's all going kind of quite nicely
so I'll just finish off with the end of
the article
it's 5 p.m the day before the show in
Phoenix and Nikki Sixx is Poor Side
drinking a bloody Mary and eating a
platter of shrimp a proud mother brings
over her four-year-old son Tommy to meet
him quote he knows all your music she
says hi Tommy says Nikki shaking his
(44:13):
tiny hand what do you want to be when
you grow up Tommy shied into mutinous
shrugs
the Nicky ass a rock star then the
little boy nods six is ecstatic you
don't want to be a fireman or the
president Tommy shakes his head now why
is that so you can get all the girls
Tommy greens you can do whatever you
want says clearly clearly happy to be
(44:34):
preaching his main message to such a
ready convert go jump in the pool with
all your clothes on Tommy hesitates
frowning slightly he looks at the pool
then his mother then at six go for it
six urges Tommy's mother's mother's
smile Titans that's too deep for you she
says and grabs his arm leaving him off
I love kids sick says fondly as he
(44:55):
watches them walk away
so that says reproduce my kind
permission of Rolling Stone magazine so
the best article we've ever had about
Motley Crue and karang magazine
okay
uh but you know all good stuff
we should get um
Rolling Stones from the time
(45:17):
although no one gave me them so we're
fine
well I think they sort of when it comes
to metal they
they're not
super interested are they they you get
the odd they are the odd one I mean I
guess at the time it was the most
popular
thing wasn't it so
you know but that article seemed a bit
(45:38):
like someone just sort of Dipping their
toe into the world of the crew rather
than yeah sure
so I want to read you this uh review
there's a review of bad news right okay
and this is by Mick wall
and I'm going to read the whole thing
but
for a purpose I think it's very
(46:00):
important to get into this uh the
funniest thing about all the bad news
the funniest thing about this bad news
album is the amount of poison it's
already stood up I could not believe
Howard Johnson's review them of reading
this year I could believe he hated them
sure why not
I could not understand his bitterness
though the assertion between the lines
that bad news was some sort of rip-off a
(46:21):
joke stretched out of recognition the
only motivation behind it of cold hard
greed then John hotten another crying
writer stood in the pub and told me he
thought bad news were quote an insult to
the real metal fans and Dante Dante
Benito another Quran writer wondered
aloud whether it was right to charge
people money to have the piss taken out
(46:41):
of them when all they really wanted was
for a band to come on and kick the [ __ ]
out of them
point they're all missing is that bad
news don't just laugh at heavy metal and
its followers they laugh with them
um and he makes a point that the more
bad news comic strip uh film hasn't
actually been on yet known Cinema
although the the original one bad news
(47:04):
tour had been on
um in common with film spinal tap is the
best jokes in more bad news are so
subtle only a real heavy metal fan or
musician would find them truly funny so
right on the nose is more bad news uh
that when I got the chance I asked Aid
Edmonton writer director and all around
brains behind the concept whether he'd
ever been seriously into heavy metal
(47:25):
of course he cried I've seriously been
into that kind of music for years I
learned to play guitar and dreamed of
being in a rock band long before I got
seriously into comedy to be honest half
the reason I wanted to get a Pastiche
heavy metal band together was the first
in the first place because I knew it was
the only way I was ever going to get on
get to play in some sort of band on
stage
(47:45):
it's like what they say about the Irish
telling the best Irish jokes a good look
at the detailed and witty gatefold
sleeves this album he really Raves about
this and uh he's really really sort of
enjoying the whole thing
but I find it sort of baffling that like
and you've seen it in some of the
letters as well people saying
(48:06):
oh it's an insult and it's like I I
can't sound like heavy metal fans being
so uptight about
you know it's it's not someone taking
the piss out that they're not taking the
piss out of iron there's always some
people take themselves a bit too
seriously at some stage in their life
and that's just you
they're just people who are taking
things a little bit too seriously yeah
(48:27):
and then 1987 I absolutely took myself
too seriously and for many years after
that and probably still now but like
surely everyone reading this would have
watched the young ones and been into the
comic strip and yeah do you know what I
mean
so I think we need to watch more bad
news again because
it is a classic of the genre isn't it
(48:50):
yeah I think
it's been
it has been a very long time
um well they played on it well they
actually played Donington in real life
and they filmed that right but they I
mean spoiler alert for more bad news
they sort of make out that the crowd
(49:12):
charged the stage and like
beat the [ __ ] out of them and
slip with Fuego's throats
very funny
but yeah we're big fans of uh bad news
um did you ever watch any of the other
(49:32):
comic strip
films we had
um
five go mad in Dorset on VHS that we
taped off the Telly but I don't really
remember the age of that wasn't
I think because of that point I liked
the young ones that felt too weird I
wasn't interested yeah I remember
(49:53):
watching them back and a lot of them
they're sort of they're sort of clever
but they're not super funny I think I
was probably a little bit too young
yeah to maybe appreciate
those those also you don't have to be
very old to appreciate young ones yes
yeah even though there's there's jokes
(50:13):
that go over your head in there in the
young ones because oh God yeah yeah
there's I think why I always remember
was I mean Aussie always used to like it
but I always just remember
um
where it just pounds to the sink and the
f-coming bodies it's like something in
the sink something dirty in the sink
some plates are talking to each other or
(50:35):
something and
[Music]
um
I remember just thinking like what is
this but like
but in a good way in a good way yeah
yeah but I think your heart is really
with bottom isn't it
um yeah
I mean for me it was the young ones but
(50:55):
and I liked bottom but I think
I mean you probably remember when bottom
was first on yeah
um yeah we should do all episode about
bottom and the young ones
I mean I I always go on about this but
in the in the young ones Vivian is a
(51:16):
punk but he's in he's always got like
Motorhead and Rush t-shirts and Saxon
and like stuff that doesn't seem very
Punk and hawkwind and
very meta yeah very metal exactly uh
there's a review of bridge of spies by
tapau okay
(51:36):
um
what's your favorite song by tapau
do you like anything by Japan yeah
trying me trying with your hands
well that's a good song it's yeah it's a
you know smooth ballad in it
I mean you know driving home it's on
you're gonna have a nice time
(51:58):
I like the song Valentine right which is
not mentioned here
um
[Music]
it goes
I'll cut it because I can't sing like
Carl Decker come on
it goes
[Music]
(52:26):
[Music]
it was a it wasn't as big a hit it was a
single but it wasn't no offensive
singing but I don't recognize it from
that right why is it called to Pal
uh
they're named after
(52:47):
a character from the original Star Trek
I believe it was
Spock was supposed to have an arranged
marriage to a woman on Vulcan and she
was called to Powell
oh no no I'm absolutely wrong she was
called to pring right to Powers The High
Priestess who was going to marry them
(53:07):
okay there you go there's some Star Trek
trivia for you
so were they
Big Star Trek fans they must have been
well maybe they just thought it was an
interesting name
as well it is interesting
[Music]
this is exactly how I sound you like
this
yes
(53:29):
and I'll tell you why
this sounds
exactly like a Marillion record
[Music]
right
right if you pitch the vocals down a bit
and if the guitar was better it would
exactly be a Marillion record and my
theory is right because obviously
(53:50):
Marillion were like super big in like
mid-80s this is just getting into the
late 80s they saw that they thought
we'll have a bit of that and we'll make
you know what I'm really annoys make me
think of
when we used to live in our old house
yeah and um
our neighbors got home
and that had this noise what's that and
(54:12):
the like parked outside but playing
Kaylee so loud that he was loud in the
house so he'd gone through the the
windows weren't open the car so it's in
the car out into the open then into our
house and it was so loud so that's how
loud it was and then came out and then
had just the biggest argument
(54:33):
like next door do you remember I know I
don't think I was there was I I don't
know but it was like a proper
argument
so like I wonder whether they were were
they arguing when Kaylee was playing
like because the car I've been arguing
when cage was going that loud because
you wouldn't be able to hear each other
in the car like there's no way because
(54:53):
it was that loud so they got out of the
car they came in the house and then had
a huge argument but maybe it's just
interesting to know where did the
argument or maybe
they put on Kaylee thinking this will
stop the argument but it didn't I don't
know maybe they were arguing about who
was the better singer in maybe maybe
(55:15):
facial Steve hogar maybe
do you think now whenever either them
here's Kaylee they
get a bit anxious
probably because that wouldn't have been
on the radio
that would have been on a
(55:36):
CD or something in the car wouldn't it
because well maybe they would listen to
like absolute 80s
it was number two in the charts it was a
big hit but we listened to a lot of the
radio and when have you ever heard when
was the last time you heard that
[Music]
[Applause]
it feels like the sort of song that
wouldn't just turn up on the radio it
feels like something you'd listen to so
(55:57):
maybe it meant something to them
who knows maybe she was called Kaylee
Maybe
um
okay so we're coming to the end of our
time 40. but there's just a few there's
just a few things
(56:17):
it just flipped me off for no reason
well I mean it's all this talking Motley
Crue in it I'm feeling a bit rebellious
well the age yourself it's me uh there's
a article about Faster Pussycat okay
and there's just a couple of things I
wanted to read about that so what's the
story behind a newly Written song slip
(56:39):
of the tongue then
I don't know what the hell time he was
writing about that tie me down was the
singer
I don't know what the hell time he was
writing about there Greg laughs this is
um
Greg
pussycat Greg steel Greg steal is good
(57:01):
name Greg Steele is
50 a good name it's a good one we should
look at Greg Steele and see what his
real name is
Greg
his real name is Alan Steele
so he's really gone mental
I don't know what the hell time he was
(57:22):
writing about there gray glass sounds
dirty though doesn't it I don't know it
might be about anal sex I'm not really
too sure lovely
yeah I thought that was worth
so this is a member of the band saying
I'm not sure sounds dirty might be about
all let's sing it cool let's go
(57:43):
that is Greg all over okay [ __ ] Greg
so let's look at view from the bar
uh I want to read an article from view
from the bar
72 year old heavy metal Rock fan Maj
main has just been taken to court by a
County Council for allowing rock bands
to rehearse in a hall that she owns even
(58:03):
though the hall an old gymnasium that
used to belong to the Air Force in the
Oxford Oxfordshire Village of
ULM is 120 yards from the nearest house
neighbors complaints about the noise
Foster Council last year to demand an
end to the practice sessions by Maggie's
metal bands she appealed against the
decision I enjoy it and so do the lads
(58:24):
says the rocking granny so why should we
stop
imagine paid in court on 20 29th of
September the outcome wasn't known at
the time of going to press and still
continues to allow bands to use her old
Hall some of the lads were willing to
soundproof the hall if that would help
but we don't know how much longer they
will be able to use after I go to court
if the court finds me I won't have the
(58:45):
money to pay and I have to go to prison
continued and angry but cheerful match
and I know I'm breaking the law they're
lovely well-behaved lads who have
nowhere else to his it seems silly to
really
so that's nice bit of uh human interest
story
um there's a there's a letter there's a
(59:06):
PS on one of the letters I won't read
you the whole letter not very
interesting but PS I have a solution to
Jon Bon Jovi's stubble problem why not
cut his [ __ ] head off
oh
I mean did he have
right mate okay hun
um
finally we get a Marillion article
(59:28):
finally it's not it's not terribly
interesting though so we'll go into it
in another time
um
uh then Jericho do you remember them
Mark Shaw
an interesting name not really a uh
(59:51):
metal band
it's not like Greg
so they're not quite Guns and Roses
right and uh they're talking about the
fact that the uh record cover was
um they have changed the record cover
because it was deemed defensive
(01:00:11):
um
there's a sort of robot that looks like
it's about to sexually assault a woman
do you know do you know that no cover so
they changed it to the cross with the
skulls
and better
the band have also hit trouble for the
video for Welcome to the Jungle MTV
insisted that a scene which shows
(01:00:32):
Stephen Adler kissing a girl on the
shoulder whilst in bed had to be edited
out
I mean it's Saucy as hell
um so that was highly romantic
maybe it was just too romantic
um
so I wanted to show you this uh picture
(01:00:53):
of the band
um so you've got is he struggling and
he's just doing his nails having a [ __ ]
yeah slashes with a young lady who's got
her ass out for no particular reason
um Duff McKagan is just holding some
chains yeah well and Steve Adler is just
(01:01:13):
having a laugh with his drums holding a
cigarette and Axel Rose I mean would you
like to describe what's going on in this
um he's
in a cowboy hat hanging out with a dog I
mean a dog that looks sort of like the
sword dog that would be on like it's a
(01:01:34):
bit so didymus but it's a bit like it
looks like a dog that would be on
Fraggle Rock or something
but not not the Fraggle Rock dog not the
Sheepdog but like it would be on fragile
like it would have a sort of funny
personality because you can't see his
eyes but it's obviously that's quite
funny it would be quite a funny little
character I thought it was just quite a
(01:01:56):
sweet picture because you usually see
Axel as the sort of troubled Angry Birds
he's just smiling he's got a little dog
well Everyone likes dogs
uh so that's our
that's our issue of crying before we go
do you like food
(01:02:18):
um yeah okay give give me a number
between one
and
230
22
okay so I'm gonna read from mosh
potatoes which is the heavy metal
cookbook which I think was bought for us
(01:02:40):
by
musician Oliver Gardner creator of the
theme tune She's Got The Courier
cookbook
uh why is
I mean you know what they're like
so we've got highly doubtful Tea cake
with very suspicious cream uh can I uh
(01:03:02):
unsubscribe from this I don't want to
eat something with suspicious cream I
literally never want suspicious cream
anywhere in my mouth thank you it's a
recipe from Emily Autumn who I I'm not
familiar with Emily autumn
uh what makes this Tea cake so very
doubtful is the addition of fresh
lavender
(01:03:23):
the historical meaning for this is
distrust so be careful who you share
your cake with
please what I mean that you you would
distrust those people or they
because you've given them the cake
I'm confused read me the bit that
explains why it's suspicious cream
(01:03:43):
um and I don't like the way the creams
felt
uh creme
that makes it a bit more grim
uh serve your highly doubtful Tea cake
with a generous dollop of very
suspicious creme which you will bring
into being as follows cream cheese heavy
cream half a teaspoon chopped fresh
(01:04:05):
lavender flowers
confectioners sugar and one teaspoon
pure vanilla extract
um well that sounds lovely
served with tea cakes of All Sorts but
especially highly doubtful ones and this
all seems like a private joke doesn't it
yeah but it sounds nice I like lavender
(01:04:26):
sounds right didn't it
um yeah I mean spoon the flowery
goodness is still prepared loaf fan and
bake for 15 minutes so yeah I mean if
you uh if you want to make the highly
doubtful Tea cake with very suspicious
cream uh get your hands on a copy of
mashed potatoes by Steve Sebree recipes
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(01:04:48):
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well that's weird that's I know that's
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really should we just send people to
Apple and Spotify then
say so are we having a marketing meeting
right now I feel like we are
(01:05:53):
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don't you need to be signed into podbean
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me laugh the most was you're gonna you
know I know what you're gonna say this
is the uh charges us as leather trousers
which is very metal yeah it is
um because when I saw that for the first
time because obviously now we know
re-watching things
nothing to surprise when you watch off
the first time that was very very funny
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so that was the one that made me laugh
the most
um
but it's funny because obviously well
we've gone into a French podcast again
but we watching it and it does make last
time doesn't it yeah so and this is like
we watched it all the way through not
that long ago really yeah and there was
(01:07:16):
a point when it was on e4 and all you
ever saw was friends and I thought I
never want to watch friends ever again
but
we we went back we watched it and I
enjoyed it yeah yeah
but we started watching again because I
said I want to watch it and um
it makes me think of Autumn and we're
coming into Autumn so
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lovely yeah
um but anyway so remember to watch
Friends
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thank you
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hey Santa
will you
[Music]
(00:39):
very funny about Metal all right we're
recording we're rolling Jimmy we're
rolling
um
okay okay how do we do this again
um
uh welcome back listeners smooth
welcome back rockers and metal heads
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um
I hope we played the theme tune was that
happened before this in last episode was
the premiere yeah no I know that but the
theme tune has it like come before or do
we say like welcome and then it goes no
I've got I've got a good idea for how
I'm going to use the theme tune this
time but it depends on what we talk
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about during the episode oh
but yeah I'll tell you after
brother
don't care I was mildly interested and
uh
um
okay how have you been
uh yeah very well thank you
very nice you had a nice day
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um
so you won't really high then oh
I mean it's been it's been a day where
it's ten past six and I've got some
wines so it's been that day nice
um have you got one of those signs that
says it's wine o'clock
uh wines day oh Wednesday is quite a
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good one are those Thursday in it it is
Thursday yeah but
it's supposed to be Wednesday
so
yeah
okay okay
so welcome to canopod with Madness uh
episode 15 I believe this is 15.
um this is the podcast that everyone's
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talking about
uh where we review uh old issues of
karang and metal hammer and maybe maybe
other things I haven't got two yet
um
from the 80s the greatest decade
would you agree with that
yeah although 90s though I'm getting
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quite nostalgic of the 90s but we're
going to do some 90s cranks at some
point
um
well it can do but it always can be
grungy nonsense it
I think there's going to be some
like hair metal bands I think you're
more like friends and Curtis tigers and
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stuff like that we can talk about Curtis
stigers if you want simply red uh
Michael Bolton although he spans every
decade do you know a good fact about
friends right and we're watching friends
now we're re-watching friends now I find
I mean this is not 80s on there also
don't switch off I'm not gonna talk
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about friends all the time but that you
find when you re-watch it
you tend to like a different character
more or a different way like the very
last time that we watched all the way
through I was dead into us for some
reason not like fancying just thought oh
he's the best character yeah but like
now
I think I'm more thinking Chandler I
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don't know but it's just weird and how
it changes maybe it's your stage of life
whether you're relating to someone more
at that stage Maybe
yeah last I think last time I watched it
I really disliked that one where Phoebe
was pretending
pretending to not believe in evolution
I don't think I realized that halfway
through she changes her opinion but I
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was just I was really annoyed with it
and like this time I thinking oh no
she's she's just playing she's just
having fun with it isn't she yeah
okay so my fact about friends okay and I
might have been hallucinate I think it
was like one of the many lockdowns
wasn't it we were watching it in the
first time we re-watched it yeah and
we've obviously not got to that point
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yet because I've been looking out for it
but on Monica's fridge at some point in
that series she has the cover of return
to Olympus by malfunction right okay so
malfunction
were just a two two-man group from
Seattle and they became Mother Love Bone
and Mother Love Bone became Pearl Jam
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right
but I didn't know that this this is
I mean well you don't
there's never a close-up but I'm
convinced that's what it is but it's
already like 95 or 96. so it's like
several years after that would have been
current
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[Music]
foreign
does not seem like someone who would
have been into they're sort of like Glam
Rock meets kiss meets sort of
Punk
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I mean I'll point it out when we see I
mean
I could be completely wrong about it but
I'm convinced that that's it because
fun fact did you know that they've got a
Yorkshire Tea tin on there yes because
you pointed that out yeah and we had
that exact tin full of sewing stuff yeah
like you do
um but yeah how weird is that it was the
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gold metal Yorkshire Tea tin that they
gave away you know I went to bags
obviously and the thing where you could
buy the Yorkshire Titan which I don't
think they've done for a while now but
um yeah how weird is that so like super
exotic in New York yeah and I don't
think it was um
after they've been to London I think
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it's before that because obviously it
makes sense if they go to London for
Rossi's wedding and then they get it
that would make sense wouldn't it but I
don't think I think it's before that
just interesting well I mean it's
possibly not interesting but it kind of
is interesting
and the only thing you notice is
interesting isn't it I mean the other
day I think it was Joey's room welcome
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to the Friends Podcast
and I'm positive again you don't see
this stuff close up but I was positive
that there's a wind-up
Jack Nicholson Joker from the first
Batman movie yeah like a tin toy and I'm
sure
they just it just sort of had the look
of Jack Nicholson even though it was you
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know in the background and
probably wasn't at all it is why
wouldn't it be in that
it could be it could be yeah it could be
I mean if you know right in let us know
let us know what your opinions on
friends don't say wow wow you know don't
don't do that
all opinions you don't know if you don't
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like friends just move along
we don't need to have a conversation
about it
so other than right friends from
what like seven years after so a million
years ago we're still talking about old
things now this is classes yeah this is
a Nostalgia podcast isn't it because we
talk about when we Veer off from the
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magazines that we're talking about we
still talk about old [ __ ] don't we well
that's because we don't know we don't
know any new [ __ ] yeah
so this week
um I've got an issue of karang from
October the 10th 1987. but before we go
into that I just wanted to go through
some of the charts with you and I think
we've looked at a similar chart to this
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so I won't go through everything
so the bgs were number one with you win
again right you remember that song
uh kiss our favorites uh crazy crazy
nights it was number five uh Michael
Jackson's Bad was at number six
at number seven and number nine was I
Found Love In right by the Fatback Band
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and Steve Walsh right and do you want to
tell our listeners who might not know
DJ Steve Walsh well I'd say you don't
know Steve Walsh
um I would look at YouTube Lily and
Steve Walsh and then that'll tell you
everything you need I mean
probably won't tell you everything you
need to know but it'll tell you enough
it'll tell you it it might be what you
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not what you want but it is what you
need to watch his video
um
yeah I mean
it's it's not bad
um but maybe I've just heard it so many
times now that I've sort of got
desensitized to
his particular I mean he's he's all
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right singer he's he's isn't all right
but he was a DJ who
I think that record is based on his late
night gigs where he would sing along to
backing tracks but he shouts you what
you what you what you what you want over
the top of white Classic's owner
yeah obviously well he's put his spin on
it I guess is what he did on his radio
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show but anyway
so numbers number 11
Sisters of Mercy this corrosion
do you like that song do you know that
song sing it
right okay so it's
it goes oh no hey now now oh yeah
so that's not
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metal but it's sort of karang adjacent
isn't it
um yeah I guess so it's like goth but
it's produced by Jim Steinman and it's
like this big sort of epic
production
number which you know I mean that stood
out to me I wanted to mention it
I'm written down the number actually
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I did actually save the link of the UK
chart
the computers just gone to sleep because
of course I'm gonna have to cut this
[ __ ] out
with professional podcasters
um
right so somewhere in the not sort of
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mid-reaches of the chart
is a song
otapow
number 31 heart and soul
um so there's this song Hey Matthew by
Carol fialka do you know that song
um I don't think so I feel like this is
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something Lindy's talked about but I
Googled let me hey Matthew and nothing
came back so I'm gonna
um I'm gonna play this song I'm gonna
say oh look I was Cooper but it's on
you created that it's on one of our many
playlists uh if this is your first
episode you're probably thinking why the
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[ __ ] are they talking about friends and
Steve Walsh
um
get over here you can't live on metal
alone there's other stuff in the world
isn't there yes it's 90 metal
10 of the [ __ ]
um
every episode we make a YouTube playlist
of some of the stuff we talk about
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this corrosion on there but
so yeah this weird novelty here
by this guy called Carol fialka
family grammarly
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[Music]
so you get the idea right
[Music]
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that's meant to mean something and
actually it's just a little bit painful
for everyone involved well it's like ah
TV's bad isn't it you're making kids
watch TV and it's all violence and [ __ ]
do you not remember that no it was
locked out okay well yeah there's a
little boy in the Spider-Man out of here
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he's a pretty good Spider-Man outfit
um and he's commenting
on the TV of the 80s and
The A Team and [ __ ] he says
listing TV programs that's not really a
comment yeah but um I'm really yeah I'm
surprised you don't remember that okay
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there you go hey Matthew counter for
Yorker is that it you're just telling me
about it
thought you'd go oh yeah
yeah
um all right
so let's put a bit of grown man now I
know
I you know when they made Spider-Man
no way home you know the one that Toby
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Maguire and Andrew Garfield and Tom
Holland I wanted them to put him in it
just
I mean maybe he's in across the spider
verse which we've not seen
uh maybe
um okay so let's look at this issue of
karang it's number 157.
[Music]
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through the front
and who's this on the cover
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
[Applause]
s x-rose
um
so like this is
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Axl Rose in his sort of um you know he's
got a lot of disguises right this is his
Welcome to the Jungle disguise isn't it
yeah but the only time you ever saw him
with like big back Comb hair yeah was
Welcome to the Jungle uh so in addition
to that they blurt out her
on his tattoo
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um
this is not blurred oh foreshadowed
boobs out he's got a sexy woman on his
arm but I don't I think he's just a face
I don't think there was a body involved
oh okay it was just the way that the
magazine was covered I thought she had
boobs out and dead bird it well you know
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maybe he had it added to it later on
maybe I don't
uh so in this issue Halloween Death
Angel Motley Crew then Jericho Jethro
Tull
Faster Pussycat heart do UK tour dates
and win a compact disc player
so that is very good that is exciting
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uh yeah so in the new section
um
do you remember the Hofmeister of
Meister bear uh yeah
uh
there's a lot of sort of adverts of
Banks and stuff and like getting young
people to have bank accounts that's
because 80s capitalism it was it was a
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thing wasn't it big money money money
money Wall Street the Midland bank had
those pigs
yeah
yeah uh but this is getting LP versus
naught Pence
and the Hofmeister bear who was like
supposed to be like a kind of cool
character that you're supposed to like
because he's cool like his hat he's got
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a little he's got like an Arthur David
looks like he's gonna did you see that
scar dancing thing I forgot to mention
when I said it to you that just it was
my like worst nightmare
for some reason scar dancing just
it was One Step Beyond in three
different versions isn't it yeah just
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I'm not a fan of Scar dancing I didn't
know it was a cover I thought it was
just Madness had done it and I guess
some American
scar punk band also did it
um but he looked at the sort of man or
bear who would um do some Scarlet but
the jacket's not very scar is it jackets
pure 80s
oh you've got to wear a coat if you're
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going out if he's in a nightclub he's
not gonna be wearing the jacket yeah but
would scar boys have won
no
obviously we need to do a bit of
research
oh no yeah I missed something
um so
oh [ __ ] I haven't got my glasses I
didn't need to get my glasses
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Just Talk Amongst yourselves
sorry
edit that about
yeah oh I am
edit nothing
I always say I'm gonna edit everything I
never do so Def Jam will issue the
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soundtrack for the movie less than zero
in the US before uh mid October so have
you ever seen the film less than zero no
I think so uh it's based on the cult
novel by Brett Eastern Ellis which deals
with dissolute wealthy Los Angeles
teenagers leading shallow lives riddled
with drugs and immorality and it seems
like the sort of film you like because
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Robert Downey Jr is in it and
um
like all people of that generation like
uh [ __ ] star
Jamie Gert
isn't it
um but the soundtrack includes
by Slayer originally recorded by Iron
Butterfly rock and roll rock and roll
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all night by poison
cover of the kiss classic I mean they
don't really need to say that do they
and rocking pneumonia and the Boogie
Woogie flu by Aerosmith first recorded
by Huey Smith
so it's all cover versions and it's also
got um
Hazy Shade of Winter by The Bangles so
you know that video
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I don't know if you've ever seen it also
on the playlist
well we should watch this film
I was gonna say because
no that's the trailer
uh did not sponsored yet
I'll just turn it down a bit
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yeah obviously this has got all bits
from the filming
so it's so young sexy Iron Man's in it
come on he's sexy whatever age is true
has it got Andrew Andrew McCarthy yeah
oh my God why have we not mannequins we
can have Bernies come on
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do you remember watching something and I
was positive it was Andrew McCarthy it
wasn't it was uh and uh Ant-Man number
who did you think was one of the evil
suits in Ant-Man you know those those
people who work with
the places yeah bad the office the bad
office and um one of the men is
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um Andrew McCarthy but it's apparently
not but I think it is his son or
something
what no it's so amazes him oh he's an
older man who looks like Andrew McCarthy
yeah and we've had this conversation
that I said and we looked it up and it
wasn't and I was like I'm sure it is
though
he changed his name for that one first
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well look right I'll Google
um it was Ant-Man
um
Ant-Man cast
and no no no no no no no was he a famous
actor
um well he is Andrew McCarthy
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no him Mike Donovan who
Andrew well apparently Martin Donald and
this is like um
you know how people think Jackson's
still alive and stuff I think this I
mean Andrew McCarthy is dead so I don't
know why he's decided to
oh that's him younger
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Martin Donaldson see the same guy oh
right yeah I remember this guy yeah but
look at him what else has he been in
he's been a lot of [ __ ] wicking at
Bernie's one two a mannequin
what is he actually making because
that's gonna bother me look at that look
at that he's
he's similar stop it
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I went on the Wikipedia page from
Ant-Man and it's also see also list of
films featuring miniature people ah
borrowers
um
anyway I don't know how
because we write so Andrew McCarthy yeah
I got it
um so also this this leads into the next
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feature also Joan Jett is on the
soundtrack
um
yeah she's but she's doing an original
song but she says some stuff in this
feature that I quite liked so Jones says
she likes covering other people's songs
because quote I'm not the only person in
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the world who writes good Joan Jett
songs I Love Rock and Roll was a great
Joan Jett song it was perfect for me but
I didn't write it
that Twisted Sister a couple of years
back we're not going to take it that
would have been perfect for me so would
you've got to fight for your right to
party by the Beastie Boys there's a lot
of great material out there it's just a
case of finding it but it seems like a
really sort of nice like most artists
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wouldn't say that most artists would be
like of course I write all of their
songs yeah
um
she talks about my acting because you
know that film with Michael J fox that
she did is that was her her first big
acting role I mean we talked about it on
another episode
uh light of day where she paid she plays
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a rocker and he's her brother
okay
I mean it's not a well-known film but we
did have a conversation we need a phrase
for when it's one of these situations
where apparently you've been talking to
my Alter Ego we need a safe word I
wasn't there
um
it's called age
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uh it's a powerful human drama and
co-starring uh Michael J fox
um
she says I always used to be offered the
part of some weirded out 27th century
space queen
oh always
I mean I want to know more about all
these films that feature 20 27th century
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space Queens
um
there you go so that's Joan Jett uh our
next uh feature is about Jethro Tull
how exciting so you are not a fan of
Jethro Turner I don't mean I'm not not a
fan I'm just not a fan
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um have you never heard any because
obviously listeners I'm
that [ __ ] tall obsessive
so you've you look you'll have heard me
listening to their stuff right so have
you never heard anything that
jangled your bell
um
Solstice Bells I mean that's a good
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start
[Music]
but because Christmas I mean
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there's there's some Christmas songs
that are sung by
people
who are now canceled and they're good
Christmas songs I'm saying it basically
my threshold is pretty low there's a
Christmas song I'm gonna like it I like
the Bass Hunter Jingle Bells if you've
not heard beethovens or Jingle Bells
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honestly check it out because that is
good
um
Basin has not been Dancy no no but um
yeah it's and Cheeky Girls Christmas
there's there's not bad but you don't
like the Cheeky Girls cheeky Christmas
cake from Big Brother
this time of year that one
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I mean that was a good rendition
yeah it sounded like him I know it did
um yeah so
the song but I'm just saying my bar is
pretty low to to go back to talking
about people who've been canceled
uh Joan Jett has covered a song by
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uh
popular artist from the 70s who is known
canceled who had a Christmas song
and
um big hair big big hair big shoulders
yeah okay yeah yeah that guy
um
but yeah there's a Jethro Tull Christmas
album
is that yeah it also yeah you you've you
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must have noticed me putting
more than Solstice bells on our
Christmas places you put some nonsense
on our Christmas playlist yeah there was
that one year where you were meant to be
putting songs on it obviously and then
you just put you put something really
weird like a
so if I can't remember it wasn't so 20
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minute television programs I've got
Clips I put like Christmas eclipse and I
put like
um like BBC announcements oh yeah we
obviously we like that we like we've
spent evenings
watching
BBC are they called items yeah I didn't
and like continuity between programs
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with people we've watched videos of that
yeah I'm a big fan but it needs to be
for some of our more normal listeners do
you want to explain the appeal of
watching old YouTube clips of BBC
continuity announcements
um just makes you feel good doesn't it
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it's nice Nostalgia it's just nice and
you do a very good impression do an
impression um maybe I'll do it later and
cut it in just do it
okay well I mean the sort of thing
you're talking about is it's it's always
80s yeah and they're always old very
very well spoken yeah gently it's before
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the BBC or the ITV
had Regional accents it was you know you
had to sound like the queen to talk on
television and they all say things like
Christmas entertainment on BBC Two at 6
30 the two Ronnie's Christmas special
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it's that sort of thing yeah I mean I'm
cutting an actual one I mean people
don't want to hear me no keeping you
you're spelling I like yours
um
get very self-conscious it's one of my
favorite things you do now yeah that's
what's keeping us together my BBC
continuity
um so yeah the toll have got like
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they've got a song called a Christmas
song and they've got a song called
another Christmas song and then they can
see the pattern they released a whole
album of Christmas songs they called
Christmas songs uh there's one called
Birthday card at Christmas
as well no one's a birthday Christmas
last man at the party that's another one
Jesus and none of them as as good as
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salty spells all right
um so this article last Christmas
they don't do no no they do like
you know traditional Christmas songs in
this sort of froaky Jazzy
you know they do We Three Kings
flutes and [ __ ] flutes and [ __ ] yeah
(28:55):
yeah be good you should listen to it I
mean I've I have made you listen to it
in the past but you just obviously just
blocked out
so this this article is about
the fact that they're kind of coming up
on their 20th anniversary and they're
basically saying they're all old men
so I looked I looked it up and Ian
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Anderson at this stage he was 40.
he's 40 there as an old man he's
he's 40. so he's okay cool slightly
younger than you a lot younger than me
but like the funny thing have you seen
him recently 75 now
right he looks
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he looks all right
I mean not to keep your friends but Jeff
hotel are mentioned in friends okay yeah
Phoebe talks wrong and she talks about I
think she talked about sleeping with her
or something and then one of them goes
I'm Jethro till a band
because she sort of talked about like an
individual and she goes yes they are or
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something
um we haven't got to that one yet I
don't think I've imagined that no now
you say it though but I'll see him at
75. he looks like yeah he looks good
there I mean his voice is gone
well he wrecked his voice in about 1984.
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um and the whole thing is they did an
album called crest of a Nave which was
kind of a comeback because they did some
sort of electronic stuff in the 80s and
then this one was a bit more Rocky and
bluesy but people said it was like Dire
Straits because he's singing lower
and it's just a bit more sort of I mean
it's proper dad rock my dad actually
liked it right because my dad liked the
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blues
um and I don't think he would have been
interested in Jethro Tull's like prog
rock or folk rock periods but he liked a
well-played guitar so he had
he had I think he had crest of a name on
taping up 20 years of Jethro Tull which
is the box set
and
I I mean he might have been a bit
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dyslexic because he wrote Jethro tough
t-o double double F on the tape so I
always think
t-o-s t-u-s so so I was sort of think
jeffo tough
um
yeah so that's uh that's my Jethro tour
story
um
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and there's a cat in the background
obviously Jethro Tull well Ian Anderson
big camera cats right
be kind of cats and he named a solo
album after one of his cats called rupee
rupee's dance we did that
um and for some reason they put they've
printed a photo from 1976 I believe
(31:46):
which is in Anson with well I mean you
want to describe this
well I was a bunch of lady with their
breasticles out but but they've got like
things over the nipples that's actually
pans people
they they wrote some music for pounds
people to dance to
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um and yeah I guess that was a promotion
image for that
um
so moving and so people fancy them back
in the day I can understand people
finding them now like he looks looks
good nice little art he's done that
fancy thing with his scarf that I taught
you how to do he's done a scarf now
she's gone nice jacket on like he'd take
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you to a nice coffee place when he can
get you
coffee and probably a pastry nice but
younger days
um
I mean like I can talk my hair at the
moment but it's just it's funny that
we've stopped on this photo because the
the headline that goes along with it is
quote nobody could deny I looked great
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in those tights
he wore tights a lot in the 70s
um
some people that's him
it's just not a look that appeals to me
that's that's really early on that's
like Blues period
great if I if straighteners had never
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been invented my hair would not be
dissimilar to that but you wouldn't have
a beard and a flute though yeah
I don't have a flute
good attempt at a beard
so around about this time or maybe a
little bit after there was a documentary
called fish and sheep and rock and roll
and it was on channel four and I'll put
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it on the playlist
well it's an hour of there's about 10
minutes of music in it and 50 minutes of
in answer on the phone talking about his
farm because he he bought a salmon farm
in like the late 70s efficient one and
like there's this whole program and it's
(33:55):
it's hard to know who it's aimed at
because it's just long people like your
dad boring stuff about farming but my
dad doesn't like fishing
yeah but not fish farming
I don't know
yeah probably
you're so interested in there maybe they
were thinking
yeah for people who like Jethro Tull
(34:16):
would want to see the band and hear the
band so we had a salmon fish farm yeah
yeah for many years I don't think he's
got it in a fish Farm's just somewhere
where they breed fish and eat them well
they sell them to apparently they were
the main supplier for salmon in the UK
for like places like Marks and Spencers
(34:37):
and stuff
well I mean I'm like I know your
feelings on any kind of farming so it's
not side eye it's not great it's not
great but you know
um so they expect more from a tight
wearing flute
um if you're not the biggest [ __ ]
hippie on the planet and you look like
(34:58):
that then you're doing something wrong
you should be more of a hippie than I am
well I think people different times yeah
people didn't know as much back then
yeah
so talking at a different type of God
uh we get like a very interesting
article about Motley Crew
(35:20):
so obviously
we love a bit of the crew on this
podcast don't we we talk about the crew
all the [ __ ] time this article's got
loads of stuff I've never heard before
and it's quite well written and there's
a reason for that but we'll get to it
um so it mentions that they've got a
they've got their own Lear jet
(35:42):
I think this is the girls girls tour
they've got their own Lear jet
um and the nose of the Learjet was going
to be tattooed with the new Motley
Insignia a bent over blonde stripper in
garters
okay sadly
sadly not a photograph of that
um we can all imagine it the yes graphic
(36:04):
design is it's red lettering on a dark
blue background so it's very hard to
read
now freezing Heat at the hairdressers
every day and they still do stuff like
that do they they're really bad text on
and it was like badly printed and I just
thought
who is it as bad as this because I
literally can't read some of this it was
(36:24):
really bad and it really surprised me
so he what do you do I mean don't
don't read Heat but
yeah I mean red small text on a
blue gradient background is fun enjoy
I mean where it gets lighter you can
(36:45):
sort of read it
um
I will try with this bit maybe you need
young thighs young eyes during the trip
the crew admire the many swimming pools
speckling the landscape below
speckling the landscape below how poetic
Nikki Sixx who as Chief songwriter is
the acknowledged brains of the outfit
(37:06):
announces quote I want to pull the shape
of a [ __ ] okay it went from poetic to
exactly what we'd expect a loud B pink
sound from the cockpit reminds of the
crew of flying hijinks from the band's
six-year pass like the time Vince Neil
took the Pilot's controls and nearly
crashed into another plane [ __ ] hell
why would you let Vince Neil anywhere
(37:27):
near a [ __ ] plane I would be asking
at what point in history this was and
may be suggesting that yeah we
still Vince Neil to say for hobbies yeah
I mean this is after that is it yeah oh
my God
um
all the time
(37:50):
all the time the group's plane lost
power and the wheels had to be manually
cranked down quote we were all going oh
my [ __ ] God our career's over says
Nikki Sixx
imagine being on a plane and Vince Neil
takes I would
throw myself out that plane just save
the hassle of the next five seconds of
(38:11):
me going down with it
I wouldn't actually no I won't get in a
plane with Monica because that would be
stupid it's a death wish there's some
good pull-out quotes with the photos so
Mick Mars quote my brains are oatmeal
same Vince Neil it's hard relate to
(38:31):
mcmars now
old and just slightly forgetful Vince
Neil if the crew hadn't happened quote I
would be one of those guys in Hawaii
that rents you jet skis
yeah he totally would Tommy Lee quote I
had a dream I wanted to play the drums
upside down
now Nikki Sixx quote I don't understand
(38:53):
U2's music it's too serious they bum me
out okay I mean I can relate with some
of it
um occasionally the crew do make a
suggestion the liner notes on theater of
pain asked fans to send in pictures
quote you know what kind we like oh my
God the band received four 4 000
(39:16):
Polaroids of body parts so all
I've always thought of us as a
psychiatrist of rock and roll to six
because the kids come to see us get all
this anxiety and progressing out that
hour and a half is theirs no one can
take it away no parent can tell them to
turn it down I've when I've um needed to
psych myself up for you know
(39:38):
things I've uh listened to monacoota
fully fully fully agree with that
um it says originally the the band had
planned on this is on stage
they plan to emerge from between a giant
woman's legs
(40:01):
oh um It quotes some lyrics
right and I mean
this is sort of beyond the pile now but
they published it
she's only 15. she's the reason I can't
sleep you say illegal I say legal's
never been my scene
what sounds that fun uh all in the name
(40:22):
of
do you know that song
uh
so they're talking about uh Vince Neil
to be interviewed he has to be pried
from chatting up two leggy models who
are staying in the room next door he
Marvels that even though the models had
(40:43):
spent the entire previous night hanging
around in his room they didn't tear off
his clothes it's okay he says with a
gleeful laugh laying the foundation
before you build the size skyscraper
um and it says he still calls everyone
dude and skateboards backstage
um
(41:04):
in the midday in a blazing Arizona heat
Mick Mars is nursing a hangover
um he's what he's got a curtains drawn
watching an episode of Kung Fu on TV
Mars the least social of the crew looks
like Paul Williams wearing Adam's Family
wig
born in Indiana the son of a factory
Foreman moved to California when he was
(41:25):
eight he changed his name he says
because the initials were bad and it was
bad luck for me
twice dessert twice divorced he says
he's quote real picky about girls
there's too much disease going around
I I would want to know whether he
divorced them or whether he
whether they divorced him his hobbies
(41:48):
are his Corvette and dabbling in his
eight-track home studio that we can
quote extensively from penthouse's Forum
he admits I'm not too big on reading
okay there's some more good quotes
um
Tommy Lee has the most tats brackets
tattoos of anyone in the band
(42:09):
uh I like the fact they had to explain
what attacks I shouldn't say I wouldn't
have understood
um he's now married to Heather Locklear
marriage is great he's very cool says
the man who admits he used to [ __ ]
anything with a pulse if I wasn't
married I'd probably be dead the
partying and stuff
even though he's a family man Lee has no
(42:31):
problems with the image of women that
the band projects quote it never enters
my mind I really don't think about
anything I just do it
foreign
Motley Crue is wearing underpants so
before sliding into his leather stage
pants for a photo shoot Nikki Sixx wipes
his rear with a towel which he then
tosses at his band mate who flee in all
(42:51):
directions
we're on tour again cries Vince Neil
God continued on page 38. oh green
um
one result of Nikki Sixx's addiction
(43:12):
always problems with addiction is the
the song Dancing on glass which declares
I've been through hell and I'm never
going back to dancing on glass quote I'm
not mellowing out he says I'm just
street smart about it
mellowing out would kill the motley
image but how long can it continue
(43:33):
six now lives surrounded by antiques in
the spotless house something warm about
old things he says and his impending
marriage to vanity seem to dampen this
self-destruct views so they talk about
his marriage to vanity he was like one
of Prince's Protege in the dirt and
obviously that all went terribly wrong
but at this point obviously it's you
(43:53):
know it's all going kind of quite nicely
so I'll just finish off with the end of
the article
it's 5 p.m the day before the show in
Phoenix and Nikki Sixx is Poor Side
drinking a bloody Mary and eating a
platter of shrimp a proud mother brings
over her four-year-old son Tommy to meet
him quote he knows all your music she
says hi Tommy says Nikki shaking his
(44:13):
tiny hand what do you want to be when
you grow up Tommy shied into mutinous
shrugs
the Nicky ass a rock star then the
little boy nods six is ecstatic you
don't want to be a fireman or the
president Tommy shakes his head now why
is that so you can get all the girls
Tommy greens you can do whatever you
want says clearly clearly happy to be
(44:34):
preaching his main message to such a
ready convert go jump in the pool with
all your clothes on Tommy hesitates
frowning slightly he looks at the pool
then his mother then at six go for it
six urges Tommy's mother's mother's
smile Titans that's too deep for you she
says and grabs his arm leaving him off
I love kids sick says fondly as he
(44:55):
watches them walk away
so that says reproduce my kind
permission of Rolling Stone magazine so
the best article we've ever had about
Motley Crue and karang magazine
okay
uh but you know all good stuff
we should get um
Rolling Stones from the time
(45:17):
although no one gave me them so we're
fine
well I think they sort of when it comes
to metal they
they're not
super interested are they they you get
the odd they are the odd one I mean I
guess at the time it was the most
popular
thing wasn't it so
you know but that article seemed a bit
(45:38):
like someone just sort of Dipping their
toe into the world of the crew rather
than yeah sure
so I want to read you this uh review
there's a review of bad news right okay
and this is by Mick wall
and I'm going to read the whole thing
but
for a purpose I think it's very
(46:00):
important to get into this uh the
funniest thing about all the bad news
the funniest thing about this bad news
album is the amount of poison it's
already stood up I could not believe
Howard Johnson's review them of reading
this year I could believe he hated them
sure why not
I could not understand his bitterness
though the assertion between the lines
that bad news was some sort of rip-off a
(46:21):
joke stretched out of recognition the
only motivation behind it of cold hard
greed then John hotten another crying
writer stood in the pub and told me he
thought bad news were quote an insult to
the real metal fans and Dante Dante
Benito another Quran writer wondered
aloud whether it was right to charge
people money to have the piss taken out
(46:41):
of them when all they really wanted was
for a band to come on and kick the [ __ ]
out of them
point they're all missing is that bad
news don't just laugh at heavy metal and
its followers they laugh with them
um and he makes a point that the more
bad news comic strip uh film hasn't
actually been on yet known Cinema
although the the original one bad news
(47:04):
tour had been on
um in common with film spinal tap is the
best jokes in more bad news are so
subtle only a real heavy metal fan or
musician would find them truly funny so
right on the nose is more bad news uh
that when I got the chance I asked Aid
Edmonton writer director and all around
brains behind the concept whether he'd
ever been seriously into heavy metal
(47:25):
of course he cried I've seriously been
into that kind of music for years I
learned to play guitar and dreamed of
being in a rock band long before I got
seriously into comedy to be honest half
the reason I wanted to get a Pastiche
heavy metal band together was the first
in the first place because I knew it was
the only way I was ever going to get on
get to play in some sort of band on
stage
(47:45):
it's like what they say about the Irish
telling the best Irish jokes a good look
at the detailed and witty gatefold
sleeves this album he really Raves about
this and uh he's really really sort of
enjoying the whole thing
but I find it sort of baffling that like
and you've seen it in some of the
letters as well people saying
(48:06):
oh it's an insult and it's like I I
can't sound like heavy metal fans being
so uptight about
you know it's it's not someone taking
the piss out that they're not taking the
piss out of iron there's always some
people take themselves a bit too
seriously at some stage in their life
and that's just you
they're just people who are taking
things a little bit too seriously yeah
(48:27):
and then 1987 I absolutely took myself
too seriously and for many years after
that and probably still now but like
surely everyone reading this would have
watched the young ones and been into the
comic strip and yeah do you know what I
mean
so I think we need to watch more bad
news again because
it is a classic of the genre isn't it
(48:50):
yeah I think
it's been
it has been a very long time
um well they played on it well they
actually played Donington in real life
and they filmed that right but they I
mean spoiler alert for more bad news
they sort of make out that the crowd
(49:12):
charged the stage and like
beat the [ __ ] out of them and
slip with Fuego's throats
very funny
but yeah we're big fans of uh bad news
um did you ever watch any of the other
(49:32):
comic strip
films we had
um
five go mad in Dorset on VHS that we
taped off the Telly but I don't really
remember the age of that wasn't
I think because of that point I liked
the young ones that felt too weird I
wasn't interested yeah I remember
(49:53):
watching them back and a lot of them
they're sort of they're sort of clever
but they're not super funny I think I
was probably a little bit too young
yeah to maybe appreciate
those those also you don't have to be
very old to appreciate young ones yes
yeah even though there's there's jokes
(50:13):
that go over your head in there in the
young ones because oh God yeah yeah
there's I think why I always remember
was I mean Aussie always used to like it
but I always just remember
um
where it just pounds to the sink and the
f-coming bodies it's like something in
the sink something dirty in the sink
some plates are talking to each other or
(50:35):
something and
[Music]
um
I remember just thinking like what is
this but like
but in a good way in a good way yeah
yeah but I think your heart is really
with bottom isn't it
um yeah
I mean for me it was the young ones but
(50:55):
and I liked bottom but I think
I mean you probably remember when bottom
was first on yeah
um yeah we should do all episode about
bottom and the young ones
I mean I I always go on about this but
in the in the young ones Vivian is a
(51:16):
punk but he's in he's always got like
Motorhead and Rush t-shirts and Saxon
and like stuff that doesn't seem very
Punk and hawkwind and
very meta yeah very metal exactly uh
there's a review of bridge of spies by
tapau okay
(51:36):
um
what's your favorite song by tapau
do you like anything by Japan yeah
trying me trying with your hands
well that's a good song it's yeah it's a
you know smooth ballad in it
I mean you know driving home it's on
you're gonna have a nice time
(51:58):
I like the song Valentine right which is
not mentioned here
um
[Music]
it goes
I'll cut it because I can't sing like
Carl Decker come on
it goes
[Music]
(52:26):
[Music]
it was a it wasn't as big a hit it was a
single but it wasn't no offensive
singing but I don't recognize it from
that right why is it called to Pal
uh
they're named after
(52:47):
a character from the original Star Trek
I believe it was
Spock was supposed to have an arranged
marriage to a woman on Vulcan and she
was called to Powell
oh no no I'm absolutely wrong she was
called to pring right to Powers The High
Priestess who was going to marry them
(53:07):
okay there you go there's some Star Trek
trivia for you
so were they
Big Star Trek fans they must have been
well maybe they just thought it was an
interesting name
as well it is interesting
[Music]
this is exactly how I sound you like
this
yes
(53:29):
and I'll tell you why
this sounds
exactly like a Marillion record
[Music]
right
right if you pitch the vocals down a bit
and if the guitar was better it would
exactly be a Marillion record and my
theory is right because obviously
(53:50):
Marillion were like super big in like
mid-80s this is just getting into the
late 80s they saw that they thought
we'll have a bit of that and we'll make
you know what I'm really annoys make me
think of
when we used to live in our old house
yeah and um
our neighbors got home
and that had this noise what's that and
(54:12):
the like parked outside but playing
Kaylee so loud that he was loud in the
house so he'd gone through the the
windows weren't open the car so it's in
the car out into the open then into our
house and it was so loud so that's how
loud it was and then came out and then
had just the biggest argument
(54:33):
like next door do you remember I know I
don't think I was there was I I don't
know but it was like a proper
argument
so like I wonder whether they were were
they arguing when Kaylee was playing
like because the car I've been arguing
when cage was going that loud because
you wouldn't be able to hear each other
in the car like there's no way because
(54:53):
it was that loud so they got out of the
car they came in the house and then had
a huge argument but maybe it's just
interesting to know where did the
argument or maybe
they put on Kaylee thinking this will
stop the argument but it didn't I don't
know maybe they were arguing about who
was the better singer in maybe maybe
(55:15):
facial Steve hogar maybe
do you think now whenever either them
here's Kaylee they
get a bit anxious
probably because that wouldn't have been
on the radio
that would have been on a
(55:36):
CD or something in the car wouldn't it
because well maybe they would listen to
like absolute 80s
it was number two in the charts it was a
big hit but we listened to a lot of the
radio and when have you ever heard when
was the last time you heard that
[Music]
[Applause]
it feels like the sort of song that
wouldn't just turn up on the radio it
feels like something you'd listen to so
(55:57):
maybe it meant something to them
who knows maybe she was called Kaylee
Maybe
um
okay so we're coming to the end of our
time 40. but there's just a few there's
just a few things
(56:17):
it just flipped me off for no reason
well I mean it's all this talking Motley
Crue in it I'm feeling a bit rebellious
well the age yourself it's me uh there's
a article about Faster Pussycat okay
and there's just a couple of things I
wanted to read about that so what's the
story behind a newly Written song slip
(56:39):
of the tongue then
I don't know what the hell time he was
writing about that tie me down was the
singer
I don't know what the hell time he was
writing about there Greg laughs this is
um
Greg
pussycat Greg steel Greg steal is good
(57:01):
name Greg Steele is
50 a good name it's a good one we should
look at Greg Steele and see what his
real name is
Greg
his real name is Alan Steele
so he's really gone mental
I don't know what the hell time he was
(57:22):
writing about there gray glass sounds
dirty though doesn't it I don't know it
might be about anal sex I'm not really
too sure lovely
yeah I thought that was worth
so this is a member of the band saying
I'm not sure sounds dirty might be about
all let's sing it cool let's go
(57:43):
that is Greg all over okay [ __ ] Greg
so let's look at view from the bar
uh I want to read an article from view
from the bar
72 year old heavy metal Rock fan Maj
main has just been taken to court by a
County Council for allowing rock bands
to rehearse in a hall that she owns even
(58:03):
though the hall an old gymnasium that
used to belong to the Air Force in the
Oxford Oxfordshire Village of
ULM is 120 yards from the nearest house
neighbors complaints about the noise
Foster Council last year to demand an
end to the practice sessions by Maggie's
metal bands she appealed against the
decision I enjoy it and so do the lads
(58:24):
says the rocking granny so why should we
stop
imagine paid in court on 20 29th of
September the outcome wasn't known at
the time of going to press and still
continues to allow bands to use her old
Hall some of the lads were willing to
soundproof the hall if that would help
but we don't know how much longer they
will be able to use after I go to court
if the court finds me I won't have the
(58:45):
money to pay and I have to go to prison
continued and angry but cheerful match
and I know I'm breaking the law they're
lovely well-behaved lads who have
nowhere else to his it seems silly to
really
so that's nice bit of uh human interest
story
um there's a there's a letter there's a
(59:06):
PS on one of the letters I won't read
you the whole letter not very
interesting but PS I have a solution to
Jon Bon Jovi's stubble problem why not
cut his [ __ ] head off
oh
I mean did he have
right mate okay hun
um
finally we get a Marillion article
(59:28):
finally it's not it's not terribly
interesting though so we'll go into it
in another time
um
uh then Jericho do you remember them
Mark Shaw
an interesting name not really a uh
(59:51):
metal band
it's not like Greg
so they're not quite Guns and Roses
right and uh they're talking about the
fact that the uh record cover was
um they have changed the record cover
because it was deemed defensive
(01:00:11):
um
there's a sort of robot that looks like
it's about to sexually assault a woman
do you know do you know that no cover so
they changed it to the cross with the
skulls
and better
the band have also hit trouble for the
video for Welcome to the Jungle MTV
insisted that a scene which shows
(01:00:32):
Stephen Adler kissing a girl on the
shoulder whilst in bed had to be edited
out
I mean it's Saucy as hell
um so that was highly romantic
maybe it was just too romantic
um
so I wanted to show you this uh picture
(01:00:53):
of the band
um so you've got is he struggling and
he's just doing his nails having a [ __ ]
yeah slashes with a young lady who's got
her ass out for no particular reason
um Duff McKagan is just holding some
chains yeah well and Steve Adler is just
(01:01:13):
having a laugh with his drums holding a
cigarette and Axel Rose I mean would you
like to describe what's going on in this
um he's
in a cowboy hat hanging out with a dog I
mean a dog that looks sort of like the
sword dog that would be on like it's a
(01:01:34):
bit so didymus but it's a bit like it
looks like a dog that would be on
Fraggle Rock or something
but not not the Fraggle Rock dog not the
Sheepdog but like it would be on fragile
like it would have a sort of funny
personality because you can't see his
eyes but it's obviously that's quite
funny it would be quite a funny little
character I thought it was just quite a
(01:01:56):
sweet picture because you usually see
Axel as the sort of troubled Angry Birds
he's just smiling he's got a little dog
well Everyone likes dogs
uh so that's our
that's our issue of crying before we go
do you like food
(01:02:18):
um yeah okay give give me a number
between one
and
230
22
okay so I'm gonna read from mosh
potatoes which is the heavy metal
cookbook which I think was bought for us
(01:02:40):
by
musician Oliver Gardner creator of the
theme tune She's Got The Courier
cookbook
uh why is
I mean you know what they're like
so we've got highly doubtful Tea cake
with very suspicious cream uh can I uh
(01:03:02):
unsubscribe from this I don't want to
eat something with suspicious cream I
literally never want suspicious cream
anywhere in my mouth thank you it's a
recipe from Emily Autumn who I I'm not
familiar with Emily autumn
uh what makes this Tea cake so very
doubtful is the addition of fresh
lavender
(01:03:23):
the historical meaning for this is
distrust so be careful who you share
your cake with
please what I mean that you you would
distrust those people or they
because you've given them the cake
I'm confused read me the bit that
explains why it's suspicious cream
(01:03:43):
um and I don't like the way the creams
felt
uh creme
that makes it a bit more grim
uh serve your highly doubtful Tea cake
with a generous dollop of very
suspicious creme which you will bring
into being as follows cream cheese heavy
cream half a teaspoon chopped fresh
(01:04:05):
lavender flowers
confectioners sugar and one teaspoon
pure vanilla extract
um well that sounds lovely
served with tea cakes of All Sorts but
especially highly doubtful ones and this
all seems like a private joke doesn't it
yeah but it sounds nice I like lavender
(01:04:26):
sounds right didn't it
um yeah I mean spoon the flowery
goodness is still prepared loaf fan and
bake for 15 minutes so yeah I mean if
you uh if you want to make the highly
doubtful Tea cake with very suspicious
cream uh get your hands on a copy of
mashed potatoes by Steve Sebree recipes
anecdotes and Mayhem
(01:04:48):
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know because the end of the episode
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well that's weird that's I know that's
the main core but it sends out to more
really should we just send people to
Apple and Spotify then
say so are we having a marketing meeting
right now I feel like we are
(01:05:53):
happy and I send people to spot for
Apple because that's the but if you go
on our podbean there's links to Apple
and there's a link links
oh this is this is a marketing meeting
don't you need to be signed into podbean
to see those I don't know I mean you do
no it's just a web
page isn't it
Let's uh
(01:06:14):
and it'll take a minute Mark two minutes
remember to stay metal yeah stay met oh
hashtag watch your favorite episode of
Friends I still got friends tell me
tell us what is your favorite episode of
friends that's a good question I think
the question now the episode that made
(01:06:34):
me laugh the most was you're gonna you
know I know what you're gonna say this
is the uh charges us as leather trousers
which is very metal yeah it is
um because when I saw that for the first
time because obviously now we know
re-watching things
nothing to surprise when you watch off
the first time that was very very funny
(01:06:56):
so that was the one that made me laugh
the most
um
but it's funny because obviously well
we've gone into a French podcast again
but we watching it and it does make last
time doesn't it yeah so and this is like
we watched it all the way through not
that long ago really yeah and there was
(01:07:16):
a point when it was on e4 and all you
ever saw was friends and I thought I
never want to watch friends ever again
but
we we went back we watched it and I
enjoyed it yeah yeah
but we started watching again because I
said I want to watch it and um
it makes me think of Autumn and we're
coming into Autumn so
(01:07:38):
lovely yeah
um but anyway so remember to watch
Friends
[Music]
(01:08:00):
thank you
[Music]
hey Santa
will you
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