PWM32: Run By Trendies- Kerrang Kontaktz 1988 (part 2)

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lovely
weather I I can't see you obviously but
I bet you've all got smashing blouses
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on he my name's Richard and I'm looking
for a
friend well a lover really but failing

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that a quick rigle
Ado oh and by the way I am the Duke of
kidster and extremely rich
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right we're recording right welcome is
this like a new one you need start this
is a new one yeah this is episode 32
okay well you going to introduce
yourselves uh yourselves sure so this is
can I pod with
Madness uh your One-Stop shop
for Kang metal hammer and various other

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magazines from the 80s and maybe the
'90s yeah I was going to say '90s can I
give you a deep
cut uh yeah it be funny if it's the one
I'm thinking of well no it's not going
to be cuz it's an album I'm going to
show you an album this is this is f I'm
going somewhere with this it's a little
bit like um you know Anthony Jack's Eric

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Clapton joke there's okay well there's a
lot of moving parts so I need to explain
a few things so this I'm holding my hand
an album this is show of hands by
formally Anthrax or it's formerly
Anthrax by show of hands we can never
never find out my friend bought this at
a secondhand shop in like the '90s and

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it's from 1970 it's very folky bluesy
Jazzy this very very
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1970
well gu I've got my just
reward think I'll find my way to war a
much better life with you
these things are know to be
[Applause]
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true very cool and he just bought it
because he liked the cover but we both
like really liked it and really like
listening to it but could never find out
anything else about this band show of
hands there was a folk band called show
of hands but they're completely
different they're from the 80s and
they're Duo and they're British and this
this is like an American band it's on
Electra record same as the doors um and

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yeah for years and years and years never
could find out anything else about this
right um and still still can't still
don't know anything about them I mean I
guess at a story that at some point the
band were called Anthrax do you mean
Anthrax as in Anthrax no no not the
nework cover the cover doesn't look
anything like what I would anax would uh

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do as far as I can find find out they
were called Anthrax and they wanted to
call the band formerly Anthrax but the
head of Electra record said no that's a
stupid name so they called the album for
me Anthrax and they called the band show
of hands possibly but we still don't
know but right so I just thought well

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let's let's find out a bit
about either show of hands or form
Anthrax right um so put it into Google
and not obviously everything's been
issued on CD
right
um because there was like a big Electra
box set and there was one track from it

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on that and then subsequently it got
remastered and uh released as a
CD actually my before that happened my
friend found someone who could plug a
vinyl Al like a record player into like
a digitizer and he digitized it and put
on CD for me but since then it's it's

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actually come out as a proper CD so
let's have a re read of I know this is
hypocritical meab I hope there's a point
to the story I mean right so I'm going
to read you some reviews and see if you
think these might be useful reviews or
not so because it got loads of onear

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reviews this album yeah um a raw Cliff
sorry I thought this was the English
folk duo/trio unfortunately not and did
lot did not like the music others might
It is Well produced I can see how others
might like it one
star um M we braier onear not who you

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think this is not the Famous folk Duo of
Phil beer and Steve nightly it's another
group called show of hands who have
stolen their
name okay I mean the the the folk Duo
came like 15 years later but whatever
don't buy this if you want the real show
of hands this group doesn't even sound
good Al so right so this show of hands

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that you show me on the record
is before the people who think it's this
right okay another another review RN
Tiffy two stars bought this assuming it
was the nightly beer show of hands
should have looked more closely played
it I'm not very
impressed uh this is from Dave not the
folk band show of hands I didn't realize

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this was not the show of hands I knew my
mistake I should have read the reviews
first but still one star
Dave come on mate you were doing on top
sense then so it just goes on and on and
on right and I can only like surmise
from this that fans of the 80s folk Duo
show fans are a bunch of [ __ ] idiots
right whereas there's there's no reviews

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on there saying I thought this was the
New York thrash band from the 80s
Anthrax that' be me going eh doesn't
make any sense what um but my
recommendation for this week is the 19
70 show what was the point of that story
well the the point of the story is I
tried to find out more about this band

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and all I could find with review like
one star
reviews saying I I didn't do my research
I ordered this thinking it was a
completely different band but I'm going
to review it once how is that a helpful
review right okay I mean I'd say on
scale of 1 to 10 have there been a point
of story it's it's about a two two well

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Two Is Better Than One it's about a I
just got an email alert I was going to
say that sounded like you bought
something from eBay or something that
sound like an alert that money left or
something no that's just a a search
alert it's for that lost boys book that
you got for Christmas so I could
probably get rid of that alert now cuz
you own it I own it don't need to

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speaking of has anyone got that book
read it what's it called Lost In the
Shadows
mobs obviously do you want to give us
there was something on the radio that it
sounded like oh God I'm so so sorry
today that sounded like speaking

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of go for it K felman's Banger um they
didn't play Cory Feldman on the radio no
we listened to Magic in the office and
it wasn't one of Magic's hit um but
magic radio is really good absolute
bangers I didn't get annoyed today at
the radio

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um so but there was some song
and was like and it really sounded like
go so
like does that sound familiar all I can
think of is Cory doing his that's robot
Fair stick stick on the playlist cuz
everyone needs to watch that again
doesn't matter if it's on every playlist

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cuz we talk about every time but
um yeah
so um watch Co Filman stuff yeah we we
mentioned Cy Filman quite a lot we're
not ha we're not haters we're lovers um
yeah not hating on anyone I'm not doing
that anymore I'm not getting sucked in

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to everyone just hating someone for the
sake of it I'm I'm at the age now we
over that even like all this JoJo sewa
stuff that's going around at the moment
like this is Rock news Well it kind of
is cuz she's dressed like Jean Simmons
but she doesn't realize that she has
been dressed like Jean Simmons
do you want to explain to our listeners

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who JoJo is I'm pretty well you you've
probably seen her maybe not noticed if
you didn't know her name she was in um
Dance Moms which was an American um real
life um docy series about Dance Moms
well it was more about the kids but sort
of their moms um and there's a there was

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a little girl in it at the time called
Jojo and then she went on to make bows
for your hair and called JoJo's bows and
I think that was her career for a bit
and then she's now like a total Rebel
man she wears like black and she's got
black eye makeup it's crazy but they've
dressed her as jeene Simmons and she
doesn't seem to know who jeene Simmons

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is because I saw something where someone
said you look like a um Jean Simmons
crossed with a sea creature and
something else and she made a reference
to how people keep making uh referring
to her as certain people but she doesn't
know who they are and so she had that in
the same sentence when Jean Simmons was
mentioned so I can only surmise that she

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doesn't know who Jean Simmons is I'll
obviously retract that if it turns out
she does I don't think she does though
but she's obviously dressed as Jean
Simmons but um her marketing team have
obviously thought that the rest of the
world have been sleeping for the past 40
years and won't notice if they dress as
jeene Simmons and then play off like

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this was the first time this has ever
happened and um she's also said some
funny things like she's um she wanted to
create a new genre of music um and she's
come up with gay pop and I think we all
know that that's like existed in many
many many forms over the last 40 years

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bless her no I know yeah this thing I'm
not I'm not going to hate her because
there's lot you know I not got any time
for that 20 20 so she's still very young
and obviously it's not her fault her the
people dressing her up should have said
look what we're doing is this it's based
on this person because they're really
cool and they were really popular and
they're still cool so we're going to do

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kind of version of that you know and
like own it but and they should have
been honest with her and they're not
being honest with her from the looks of
it if she doesn't know who Jean Simmons
is and they've just was jeene Simmons
and um I mean she's got like slight
she's a bit like Jean Simmons she's like
all the members of Kiss actually in one
person mostly Jean Simmons but

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definitely with like a bit of Ace Freely
because she's got um I mean in her video
Cal as a
[ __ ] um she comes out of the sea it is
edgy she's wearing black and um she
comes out of the sea and she does have
kind of like almost sea creature lapels
on I guess um which feels a bit Ace

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Freely with you know the whole thing so
she's a bit of everything but so I mean
you know that's not a bad thing but so
it is sort of related to
um metal because we are talking about
kiss in a sense because if kiss didn't
exist joj JoJo siwa wouldn't exist the
way she's looking today so you know when
you said that emerging from the sea I

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was picturing old Greg from the Mighty
B I've not seen that but it could be
similar well it's s Fielding dresses a
sort
of like Rick James cross with a sort of
merman I mean that sounds about like
what she is yeah and like the thing the
thing is though like the makeup they've
done on it is good like it looks good

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better than Robbie
Williams yeah because what he he tried
to just literally do well he did a bit
of a Paul Stanley crossed with Jean
Simmons it was his outfit was more Paul
Stanley than Jean Simmons but his face
was Jean Simmons whereas her face is
Jean Simmons but

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um it's a a bit different it's not as
um so iCal as jeene Simmons is and not
as neat it's a bit you know so it looks
quite cool but Jean Simmons has spoken
about JoJo see well because obviously I
mean because this has kicked off this
has kicked off in the Instagram real
real world and then we'll move on to
something else in a bit it won't take

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long it's like everything um but someone
asked him um whether he has an opinion
about him being ripped off or whatever
and he was very polite and nice and said
like no like um let me see if I can find
the quote because it's it's a very nice
quote I mean that doesn't sound right a

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surpris doesn't sound like him um let me
see
so Talk Amongst yourselves JoJo see
jeene Simmons it's coming up in my
searches because obviously I've got a
problem and I I've um delve too deep
into this okay
so um this is from the Independent is
that bad or good I don't know um

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independent the kiss musical um oh start
again the kiss musician declared that
social media trolls were simply jealous
of the Dan mom's um new black and white
look so Jean Simmons told TMZ TMZ
everyone knows is the only place you get
celebrity gossip on the 3D of April that
he approves of se's

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transformation never be ordinary this is
a quote from jeene Simmons never be
ordinary always be extraordinary JoJo is
extraordinary and she looks pool end of
quote so you you can't get better I'm
shocked I'm shocked because Jean Simmons
has also been in the news recently
because you know oh he sold his back

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catalog they've they've sold their image
they've sold their music they've sold
everything to some huge media
Corporation for like 300 million or
something but his press release he
basically slagged off every musician
since like 1990 didn't he and he was
like very he was very disparaging about
Nana and of course people on social

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media have like their brain cells are
exploding because how dare you say
anything bad about Nirvana you know well
but he has also said something nice
about JoJo they sold their back catalog
I was um
dis um discussing this not going to say
arguing it wasn't quite an argument

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discussing this with someone at work for
less than Jackson
did well I would imagine kisses back is
less valuable than Jackson well but and
I I know I was a bit
surprised cuz kiss and but then this
person word said yeah but that's because
it's you and I was like but I like
Jackson's music and I get how you

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know like Jackson's look at like as you
know you can have a silhouette of
Jackson and you know who it is yeah and
that's kind of key to that's how famous
you are yeah I'm not saying that's
that's the lipus test is you sh famous
why will [ __ ] off but you know what I
mean you know what I mean we're going to
get to famous Silhouettes in a minute oh

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let's do famous Silhouettes well Mickey
Mouse they always say like cartoon
characters yeah true need to be
identifiable go how long it take to get
to Disney well Disney case that's all
the [ __ ] we talk about let's mention
friends
um so I can't really remember why I
started this well you were saying about
Jackson and his silhouette but like

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Jackson's music
is enormous isn't it it's like you'd
probably list no no I think yeah he's
got more hits than kiss don't come at me
kiss I'm I'm not I'm just saying like in
the top 10 or whatever is the top 10
even a thing still um oh right Grand

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much download now uh yeah no I get it
it's just but it's just it's their their
image is like their image alone the
makeup then obviously people rip off the
makeup and it doesn't even matter
anymore maybe that's why he wasn't
bothered yeah cuz you don't care anymore
he's not to get I don't know well maybe
maybe no one come out say is it I'm lit

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we're were no hate platform here no hate
on anyone and I will not get suckered
into hating JoJo siwa For No Good
Reason um we used to watch Dance Moms a
lot I mean that's Poss that I mean
you've got to expl some people not seen
this it was a it was like a dance school
for very young girls run by this woman

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who was kind of a monster oh she's still
around she well funny enough I watched I
do other things other than watch reals
but not a lot I watched a real of Abby
Lee watching K as a [ __ ] by Jojo siwa
and she was very complimentary oh right
okay said it looks really good she's
really proud of her she'll be watching
over again so again if you knew Abby Lee

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you'd be surprised at that information
so there you go so jeene Simmons has
said something nice and Abby Lee I'm
sure World turned on its head I'm sure
the producers of Dance Moms got it to
sort of play up that sort
of slightly you
know it's like anything it's it'll be
yeah scripted and forced and they pick

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out the worst bits but yeah R is
probably not as much of an [ __ ] as he
appears they just want him to be
screaming at people don't they I guess
so but yeah it's um
these um young girls are very good
dancers and they do the competitions
like in America and then you know when
moms get together there's drama and

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that's kind of what it's about but it
was always less about the mums wasn't it
it was more it was about AB it was it
was about AB in the contest and whether
they were going to win and beat people a
bit like Bring it on I guess oh god
there a really current reference I don't
have current references I think they
brought back bring it on it no they
brought back Mean Girls uh they brought
back Mean Girls I've never seen Mean

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Girls I've never seen Mean Girls um
dealt with a few I just thought that it
just needed it just needed someone had
someone had to say it's a bit like
that's what she said it
felt like it just had to happen true
though and before before we get into the
main event which is we're picking up on
cran contact sorry I've got a

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recommendation for you and our listeners
okay uh one of one of our listeners
Bruno McDonald he
comments on uh everything I put on
Instagram uh he sent me a link of motly
Crew live at Philadelphia 1989 Master
tape Network remaster so that's on

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YouTube and it's basically this Channel
on YouTube called Master tape Network
and they take old like good live
recordings they put like the best
quality versions up on YouTube right I
mean Marilyn Manson is on there they've
got a podcast The Beautiful People The

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Beautiful
People but I listen I was quite
surprised how good mly crew sounded but
like 19 1989 I guess that's sort of
there you're thinking of the Big Mac 103
thing you should link to that on you
only see them in their sort of fading
Glory now don't you but like we all back

(20:22):
in the day oh my God my glory is
completely faded I'm not I'm not
throwing any shade but uh yeah so Master
tape Network okay check them out
excellent live uh concerts be subscribed
hit that notification Bell for
notifications I've literally just done
it
okay well thanks for the

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recommendation so if we can remember
where we were focus last time we were
looking at Karan contacts from 1988
right for you you're just leaving
then I'm off right that's
itut um so the next I mean I know you'll

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like you'll like this not not for the
article but just for the headline so um
the headline is the name game a and what
does that make you think of that makes
me think of um American Horror Story um
Asylum Asylum
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yeah the name game Judy jyy boy banana
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Foody
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bana come on
everybody I say now let's play a
game I bet you I can make a
rhyme out of anybody's name
with
um what's she called Jess Lang Jessica
Lang um I was going to say Jessica Lee
who's Jessica Lee no one it's a mixure

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of Abby Lee and Jessica Lang okay and um
yeah that's asylum's really good scary
but really good very scary but a very
fun moment where for no real reason I
think someone's on someone's on some
sort of psychotropic drugs and they see
it she just goes into singing The Name
Game to all the we should watch it again

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when I feel emotionally stable enough to
watch it but we should watch
it I remember like at the time we were
watching that someone was like wanking
on about uh Breaking Bad and he was like
it could really happen it's so good it
could really happen and I'm like well
this conversation could really happen
and it's boring and then I said well we

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we're currently watching American Horror
Story asylum which has
got Nazis aliens and actual Satan in it
in the same series and that couldn't
actually happen but like that's a lot
more bloody exciting I don't think I
remember much about it I remember the
someone gets a labotomy
yeah and it's really around it's yeah

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it's really stressful I think it's the
most one of the most stressful ones
although we did start
watching uh which one did we start
watching Apocalypse Apocalypse and I got
too stressed and we've had to stop that
but we did we've watched apocalypse all
the way through before but as we were
watching it I was two seconds away from

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going on Amazon to genu genuinely see
how much a hazmat suit would cost like
just so that I could have it in case and
then I thought I should maybe stop this
and we'll watch something a bit more
light-hearted so pray for me that we
could get to the point again work and
watch American Horror Story I feel like
we could do a whole podcast about
American Horror Story we should do a

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whole podcast about American horr story
do you do you want to just give me your
like so out out of 10 favorite number
one Evan Peters yes obviously I know
you're not going to ask that like the
Ser series one was murder house where's
that rank in
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your good question well it's obviously

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the first one that we saw but I I didn't
like a lot of the characters but then I
think I didn't
really obviously as you start watching
it you understand that they use
different people for different
characters throughout different Series
so you start to sort
of um but that doesn't really make a
difference to what I'm saying is that I

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didn't like the characters cuz I didn't
like EV Peters in it I thought he was a
whiny little emo in it and um whiny
little emo murderer yeah spoiler and um
I didn't like um I didn't really like
anyone I didn't really like any anyone
in
it and there Series where you really

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like people and then that really helps
to um make you enjoy the series more
like in hotel we've watched Hotel
before and if you haven't watched it the
first episode is not like the rest of
them so just get through the first
episode it's like being punched in the
face really horribly for like 40 minutes
and then just go on to the second

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episode and then it's much
better um but it's got lady garar are
murder [ __ ] a bunch of people yeah I
like I really want to dress up as Lady
Gaga from hotel and have that claw hand
and just claw people's necks all the
time I really want
that
um but so hot but when we watched Hotel

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this time we really apart from the first
episode we really enjoyed it yeah it was
great wasn't it and then Al I don't like
this is a thing in in hotel I really
don't like um what you called monster in
it oh right yeah in it um who is like a
hippie in Coven but I really like her in
Coven yeah so it's like it's it's so

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well written R I believe or
completely different in even though
they're the same person their characters
are so differently written and they're
such good actors that they are different
people so you really like them in one
series and then not so much in another
series I think we we liked I think I

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like coven the best and maybe Hotel the
next
best yeah I'd say so yeah CS made me
start listening to Fleetwood Mark a lot
sole so this is relevant so Fleetwood
Mark it's relevant to
this sort of it is is right they yeah

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well sort of yeah um I mean we throw
relevance out of the window whenever we
record to be honest I'm desperately
trying to keep it on track
um but I mean American Horse story in
and of itself is pretty metal you know
there's one point where a girl is
getting part of her like the skin on her
thigh taken off so that some redneck can

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eat it um so you know
that's pretty extreme not in a good way
I'm not condoning this or saying it's
good and I don't approve of it eating
people is metal it feels like it could
be the premise of a video in a metal
video I guess yeah do they use really
good music in it all the way through but

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very I don't think you get metal very
often but the hotel there's a lot of
goth music in it like really heavy 0s
goth like load of Sisters of Mercy and
great so but we'll do a popup we we
should do a standalone American Horror
Story where we go through each thing um

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and I'll try and recall some facts well
do we need to watch a bit more of it
maybe but that feels stressful I don't
know I just can't cope with we can talk
about all the ones we've watched
recently cuz we watch a lot of it
recently but just not all of it yeah
haven't we okay well look out for that I
work with someone who's finished
watching them all now and um I should

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get her opin get her
on she should talk about American Horror
Story So the name
game I'm going to
joke sorry so sorry I'll cut that cut
that that'll blow people's ears
out didn't go that high you've been I've

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been higher when I'm just talking what
was that I you're talking about Evan
Peters so the name game this this is the
Old Chestnut of what would be your
Ultimate Heavy Metal lineup which I
always think this a bit daed because
like Robert Plant is probably not going
to want to be in the same band as Eddie

(28:58):
Van you too logical there all right um
one letter Caroline from Luton says the
ultimate lineup in my view we already
have one Metallica these guys don't need
makeup or fancy clothes it's the music
that counts so she's not really got the
idea of what this should be everyone
else is saying vocals Ronnie James Doo
lead guitar Gary Moore rhythm guitar

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Malcolm completely yeah completely I
mean Hetfield's a silver fox now have
you seen him dressing smart Silver Fox
short hair
you could take him home to your mom
now
um yeah but you know he likes hunting
don't you he Li he likes shooting things
he's a proper he's a redneck is he oh my

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God e as far as I'm aware I mean don't
quote me on that we'll we'll fact check
I'm going to have a Google while you
talk so so am I thinking Hetfield's not
in your ultimate lineup now God no not
now forget the silver fox
I mean someone else's ultimate lineup
Paul Stanley Jean Simmons Bruce kulick

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and Eric Carr with Peter Chris making a
guest appearance so again that's not
really in the spirit of what they
want I saw someone with a Kiss T-shirt
today yeah not massive news but which
brand of Kiss was it which um creature
the night is good to well it was it was

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black and white I wanted to point it out
but the moment had passed so off the top
of your head who if you're putting a
band together who would you put in
it um off the top of my head satel
Satchel on guitar
yeah
um Paul
Stanley vocals yeah vocals and

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guitar
um the
girl
guitarist from Alice Cooper that last
time we saw Alice Cooper Nita
stra there might have to be a few
guitarists I don't know how band and
guitarist work three already you're
going to need a drummer and a bass

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player you don't need a bass player
White Stripes hav got a B if I'm Hest
the difference um they're both guitars
yeah but Bas
goes get the idea but I don't
really I know that normally the bass
players on the left of the stage

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um so like I don't I don't pay attention
to both players is that horrible I don't
know but I don't know like so he plays
bass right so um have him but then it's
turning into kiss what about drummer
um er car um I'm joking um

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Animal from the
Muppets
and um yeah okay well I mean that sounds
like a good
band it does a lot a lot of guitar
pirate technices going on

(32:17):
yeah right
so we're back to pen pals so here's some
more pen pals for you pen pal about with
the Z it is absolutely Ely so male 23
into lead Zep Sabbath do Etc SE female
17 the letters friendship Etc must have

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a good sense of humor and be outgoing
looks unimportant personality counts
brackets no no fat is please
oh that so how how is looks unimportant
if you going to say no fatties please so
that went from that's really sweet to oh
dear really really quickly never

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mind solid middle and start
but yeah
okay calling all Thrashers we are three
crazy females looking for long-haired
metal Thrashers we are into Metallica
Anthrax Creator voivod Mega Death Slayer
Celtic Frost destruction Misfits

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Overkill sod drri broken bones Testament
Mayhem possessed Onslaught and loads
more do you need to list them all at
that stage when you when you got into
about 20 do you need they clearly do
that's from Maria leise Allison
Stratford and Jane
McDonald I hope it's the same Jane
McDonald oh my God what if it is the

(33:42):
same Jane McDonald run corn in cheser
that's not Jan where's Jane from W Wy
Jan's from Wy um maybe she moved there
oh Jay McDonald we do we do like Jay
McDonald in this house yeah
like it's I think it started
out like ha but then we've genuinely

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grown very very fond of her she's very
funny and I would love nothing more than
an evening having a glass of wine with J
McDonald that would be top
tier so so if you're listening Janie you
want to talk trash oh I'd love that no
she talk about she can talk about
whatever she wants just sit there and
she like oh God it'd be genuinely

(34:26):
wonderful what you can make that happen
like a cameo but in person pretend to be
make a
wish I was going to say that and you
know what I avoided it because I thought
no but still maybe um maybe that's Jane
now [ __ ] she's heard she
message I love no what was that that was

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like uh Lancer means
um no it's not J
McDonald um sadly so if anyone does know
Jane McDonald she I think she still
lives in
Whitefield um she's not turning her back
on her rout her God tell her how much of
a fan I genuinely am well isn't she

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eternally on cruises though she is but
she's going around the world stop
sometime and then she likes wine so we
can have a glass of
wine I'm making it sound weird I just
want to spend I just want to have a
glass of wine with her and an evening
with her it's
fine that's normal you could you could
put um Jane McDonald in your ultimate

(35:30):
band lineup I could and then she has to
spend time with
me um so the next
controversial topic yeah is Sabbath
Never say die question mark and you know
the the
controversial you know thesis here is
that they said die they're well they're

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a bit of a they there sort of scenes a
bit of a joke because they've got this
kind of revolving door policy members
it's just basically Tony iomi getting in
whoever you know they started out with
Aussie osor and then you have Ronnie
James Doo and then since then they've
just had this kind of real ludicrous
sort of parade of you know people who

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aren't as good um and what a [ __ ] this
is well I mean that's what they're
saying this is not what I'm saying
sounds like what you're saying um but
that that's obviously what led them to
do the April fools issue about Tom Jones
joining because it was about
it was about as believable as anything
else just about stop laughing from

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that well um my my good friend simbot
who does breakfast in the ruins he said
he got that issue when he was a kid and
he said to his dad dad you'll never
guess what Tom Jones has joined Black
Sabbath and his dad just told him not to
be so bloody
stupid um do you have any strong

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feelings about Black Sabbath in the 80s
70s or Beyond
um no
no they became cool again didn't they in
about the year 2000 when they were doing
like Aussie was doing oest and all like
every band was kind of citing them as a
the major
influence yeah osbornes was on T the

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osbornes was on T indeed big news
yeah um so the next cont I mean this is
very
controversial and it's called crossover
Crackdown both spel with the K both
spell with the K and backwards ours um
heavy metal and
rap um so people are basically saying an

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Anthrax and Beasty Boys and separately
not not as a mix I was going to say as a
mix AOS Smith and Run DMC they're saying
that's what I just said Walk This Way
don't don't bring wrap into metal
basically people are very very angry
about it well I remember on I top 10
Stadium rock or whatever one of those

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ones we watched where they mention that
and they say that people felt like a
Smith sold out and at the time I can
understand why you'd think that but they
then said that it made a real impact on
ER Smith's ER Smith eyes um I to say
Resurgence into popular culture at that

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point that was the first time I ever
heard of
them I don't know when the first time I
ever heard of them because I saw the
video and I thought well these are kind
of these are sort of fake rock these are
like people who are just pretending to
be rock stars cuz he look so much like
Mick Jagger I thought in the video it's
like oh it's someone doing a doing a bit
you know because it wasn't AA Smith and

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rund DMC it was rund DMC yeah and like
if you knew music at the time you know
what's fun about that is it's in Lost
Boys it is in Lost Boys yeah so but not
on the soundtrack for some reason to
about yeah but you know what I think I
quite like
that the soundtrack would be weird if
you had Walk This Way in the middle of

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it it just doesn't fit it just doesn't
fit for some reason and I I'm a fan
obviously of aith yeah
um I was going to say I'm an Air Force
One member but I'm not sure when it
relapses like you pay for it once they
send you a T-shirt and a couple of bits
cuz you do it for a reason you do it to
get tickets and um and then you buy

(39:26):
tickets and what they do is they just
keep cancelling on you and then they you
know keep saying no we'll do it and then
they keep canceling on you and then they
go I no we're not doing it anymore and
then um then I think they just go and
he's not a member of Air Force I anymore
bye I think I joined specifically to get
those tickets that's what I mean yeah I

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mean I joined back in the '90s because I
wanted everything a Smith and I got a
pin at the time I got a few pins I got
my wings I got my
wings um don't know where that is now
should find it I will never be able to
find it but you got um that and a few
other bits some you got some backstage
passes which like sort of cool but also

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totally rubbish not going to
work it feels like they've gone on the
office and gone what's hanging around
that we like kind of want to bin but we
don't want to bin um we'll sent to their
house so they have to kind of Bin it in
a bit
um comment what else I got cuz we got a
t-shirt this time yeah um then ask what

(40:31):
size whatever just wear whatever I got
go in the dark t-shirt one time do you
remember that yeah um washed it didn't
glow in the dark after that did it say
Do not wash I don't those mugs heat CH
well the fun thing about those mugs that
heat change I've got a story about that
I was once given one um with a sexy man
on the front bit like Fabio with brown

(40:54):
hair and um he had black pants on um
until you put your tea in and then his
pants disappeared and he was kind of
like weirdly holding his penis like I
think I mean not to get too graphic I
think just show it off a bit and um but
then what I discovered was that when the

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mug is boiling hot you can actually
scrape off the black with your
fingernail right so totally gaming the
system so I just had a mug with a naked
man on it I didn't have to wait for the
um so cold drinks hot drinks you had a
uh naked man on the front so if you do
have one of those mugs and you're sick
and tired of waiting for the black to

(41:37):
disappear while your uh hot drink's
doing its thing you can actually just
scrape it off with your thumbnail so but
the the the cup does have to be boiling
um for that to work I don't know whether
this is correct but I'm sure I heard
that it was illegal to post scrape off
pants on a man on a mug [ __ ] it was
illegal I didn't do it I promise to

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publish photographs of someone with a
kind of raging heart on right well yeah
I mean obviously yeah I I understand
that it was like you know a bit of a fun
thing and you know mug with someone with
a massive uh you know issue happening
I'm trying to use words that aren't
problematic it's mat would be too much

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for a mug so I understand that he had to
be at ease and um but then still had to
kind of go it's here probably semi um it
I'm I'm not sure what it even was um but
yeah but I like I like that I I thought
wonder if you can scrape this off and
then found out you could and then uh

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scraped everything off cuz you couldn't
wait to boil the C I'm not going to wait
30 seconds for some pants to
disappear um oh this was about 25 years
ago though so just to put in context
that I'm a different person
now um do you want to know what thrash

(43:08):
mad maiden Shaz from chesher says yeah
um since hip hop came in Britain has all
has become almost run by
trendy yeah I don't I don't remember
that happening trust her
though um here's another letter being a
true hard rocking metal fan I hate rap I

(43:31):
hate rap so much I could choke and have
to run to the bathroom every time the
tiniest bit reaches my ears I think rap
I think what I think she means to be
sick rather than have a
[ __ ] maybe I think rap should be illegal
a public health warning put on every rap
record and it should kept be kept well
away from music do they not realize the

(43:52):
irony and what they're saying in the
mums across the world saying the same
thing about metal that they're saying
about rap
it's I was almost thrown into a coma
when I saw the Beasty Boys ENT the heavy
metals charts and when Scotty naughty
moshed in a public enemy t-shirt at
hodon in November that's scottan from

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Anthrax I nearly admitted myself into a
mental home I know that everyone is
entitled to their own opinions no matter
how sick they are but why try and mix
what cannot be mixed metal rock is music
let's keep it that way that's from Lady
evil the the mhing
maiden ly think lady evil doesn't care

(44:36):
about rap and metal combinations anymore
I've got a counter point from Lyn
Reynolds in London okay I like the
crossover of heavy heavy metal and wrap
a that's all she's got to say simple um
that's nice I mean it's funny that
like what a few years after this or
maybe 10 years after this like all metal

(44:57):
was sort of rat metal wasn't it like new
metal it was it was completely is it in
bowling Pursuit where he he said rat
metal yeah girl all the bad guys
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(45:18):
want so next
up sorry excuse me to not the microphone
next up um we got some more pen pals
okay um have we just done pimp pal or is
this well it's got pimp pal all the way
through oh um so as I
said uh last week um I reached out to

(45:41):
some of these people are we finally
going to hear the end of this story yeah
oh my God this better be good cuz you've
been shinging this on for mon like like
people call themselves stuff like fbit
and Satan slave and spook well you
couldn't find spook can fbit online you
can't contact them so I could only
contact people have their full

(46:01):
names and the only place I really know
how to do that is Facebook and sometimes
it's really obviously them but they
haven't posted anything since
2006 um but I did contact quite a lot of
people and I got three responses that's
pretty good three responses nothing to
be nothing to be sniffed at so here we

(46:23):
have um have they given permission for
you to read stuff out I guess uh well I
I meant I mean I don't think any of them
are podcast
enthusiasts
not so there's a letter here from Joanne
Eid of Cornwall I'm a 17-year-old female
and I would like pen pals from anywhere
in Britain age 17 or over I'm into heavy

(46:45):
metal and rock music especially mly crew
Bon joovie Iron Maiden Cinderella poison
Anthrax Metallica spelled wrong and
loads more I mean I think that's more
Kang than her so
let me just find my

(47:06):
messages so my
message hi there Joan are you the Joan e
the road to root into pimp pales in Kang
contacts 1988 edition if you are we a
podcast that reviews issues of Kang we
wondered if you got many responses from
your letter or any pen pound messages
did you stay in touch with any of them
just that sort of thing also I hope
someone married someone

(47:27):
also are you still into maid and crew
poison etal feel free to tell us
anything that occurs to you and let us
know if we can read out on the podcast
uh so she said would be great if you had
a copy of the magazine I could see I
dozens of pen pals and I'm still in
touch with two a and I so I I sent like
a PDF of the magazine um that's great

(47:49):
got loads of stories still got letters
from several of my pen pals and meet
quite met quite a few of them over the
years
um so I sent it to her she goes wow
that's brought so back so many
memories I mean she said do you want me
to send some photos for you awesome um
so she sent I mean I'm not going to put

(48:09):
these on our Instagram or anything but
that's some pictures of her and one of
her mates from back in the day and
today oh how
cute so if you go off that the next
message she says something like oh oh I
don't know I've pressed I

(48:30):
press this is yeah this is when you call
me Granddad um went to HR I think that's
hard rock hell isn't it at Great
Yarmouth together last year she's from
tin and Weir and I'm still in St OST so
that's the other side of the country
that's so cute we meet up every year
where she when she camps down here oh my
God you're going to make me cry this is

(48:51):
so thank you Joanne for uh letting us uh
dig into your private life basically and
a what a nice story there's another
one that's a little bit further
along are they all nice
stories um well I mean yeah they're all
right so this is Steve Cooper of

(49:14):
Sheffield Pitts I used to live in Pitts
yeah remember um male 23 seeks female 18
plus in South Yorkshire area for
relationship I'm into Magnum quo scorps
do white snake Maiden in ACDC scorps I
in scorpions yeah Rock goddess rip
Tigers little angels and much much more

(49:34):
looks nationality and musical taste as
long as it's heavy or un important but
photo appreciated so Steve Cooper I
messaged same message I've just copy and
pasted to everyone that's fine yes I am
that person LOL was in two additions of
contacts I think I've still got them
somewhere I got a small amount of

(49:55):
replies but nothing major important
including meeting up Etc so nope don't
know any of them these days and no
stories it's all a very long time ago
LOL yep still into quo Etc rock and roll
lifer that's me and I said I I guess you
weren't expecting a response 35 years
later he says definitely not and then he
tries to sell me all these old cranks a

(50:18):
he said I only stopped buying it about
10 years ago I've still got some early
ones with freebies Etc I said we got
freebies we got a big old stack of them
but we eventually to run out um we'll
have a look at what I've still got so
yeah that was Steve um and there was one
more

(50:39):
um so this this was actually Lisa Graham
she wasn't in contacts 88 she was in
contacts
89 so I got in touch with her she said
again same message I just copied and
pasted I did use Kang and metal Hammer
may I ask ask how the fluff you know and

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I said I'm looking at it now I've been
reaching out to people I mean I thought
it was fairly obvious but uh she said
from being about 16 to early 20s I did
get a few pen pals met up with a couple
got more replies in general than I wrote
back to um so then she asked me to take
a picture of the ad and send it so this
is this is the ad and she's in

(51:20):
Manchester totally freaked out
16-year-old a female in need of others
of same disposition to correspond with
way out personality into guns of roses
Death Leopard Iron Maiden poison ACDC
and loads of others would like male pimp
pales no crater faces please if you're a
freak of the same nature as me get get
scribbling and she said that's terrible

(51:41):
LOL no crater faces and I said that
ruled out a lot of people and she goes
I'm sure I was no oil painting at
16 um so yeah they are they are the
three responses I got out of a million
messages I sent out but um yeah yeah
that's good though all very nice um but
if you're listening and you did write

(52:01):
into contacts or pen pals please get in
touch let us know let us we want to hear
your rock and roll stor first one's
proper cute I know I know it's amazing
isn't it
um so yeah that's our pen Pal's stories
I'm just going to see what else I've got
youve made me wait about three months
for that year yeah but there was no

(52:22):
reason to do it we live together and
he's not You' not told me because I
wanted to get you live
reaction yeah well I enjoyed that um I
it's such a shame that I could i' hate
to know what I would write when I was 16
I'd be such a [ __ ] like you know you
like people
say there's no one more different to

(52:44):
yourself than when you read a Facebook
status that you made like 10 years ago
and you're like what the why was I like
that it's so weird so like I can't
imagine what stupid stuff I would have
written when I was 16
it would have been hella embarrassing it
would have been about
E7 when I was six no six do you know

(53:05):
what I mean
16 I don't lose call points here but it
would have been heavily by
Hansen oh come on you allowed to like h
and a Smith at
16 but probably I don't know who knows
I'd be interested to know which way i'
have gone to um

(53:26):
yeah big big against Hanson at 16 so
might have been all Hansen based but i'
have still been
a
total um douchebag I think I was too
timid to even write in and leave thing
no no I wouldn't have written in no way
I'd have been too self-conscious that
someone would have seen it it'd get

(53:46):
traced back to me someone at school
would have seen it it would have been
like the biggest thing they'd call you a
loser for trying to get friends trying
to be a normal human catastrophizing
jump into the worst case uh scenario but
um yeah no I wouldn't have
been I don't think I ever I did a couple
of those things where you write off and

(54:07):
you got include Postage and Packaging to
get something back you know when you
have to include like 25p yeah for like a
watch a polo watch we got a polo watch
Once in 88 because I know that because I
think Mom still got it in her house or
something in the box that it came in
because when it got delivered in like 8
you sort of open and thought no one

(54:28):
wants to wear a watch that says Polo on
it and we just put it back like Polo
mints Polo mints yeah you know when they
were hot and uh it was a green watch had
a um I think it was digital so that's
pretty exciting in 88 I think it was 88
89 87 something like that um but we
still had it we just kept it in the Box

(54:51):
um because no one want to wear it better
mind we would have paid like this would
have been like collect
you know 97 Polo rappers and include you
know $ 5.99 in postage which is the
equivalent of 10,000 billion pounds now
send off it wait three months for
someone to send you a watch through the
post and when you get it you're

(55:12):
like like the apathy of us when we got
it must have been so annoying for
whoever orchestrated sending off it cuz
I I know I didn't
because I don't have any memory of it
other than existing in a box but we
still got it somewhere the only thing I
don't think it works because it did that
bleeding thing you know that calculators

(55:33):
do when you break them yeah were they
ink bleed is ink it's l it was LCD
wasn't it liquid
crystor picture leaks and it leaks into
you know so it's that but let me see if
I can Google a picture of um the
oh stop getting on a tangent

(55:57):
Polo watch oh hello it's coming up
1980s let's
see no not a polo as in ra as in the
mint stop give me gold watches that is
it was right you show me gold watches it

(56:17):
was green it was plastic forget it like
the interet failed never mind so there's
a another controversial top in here is
ACDC were they better off with Bon Scott
but like that's a stupid point because
he was dead so they don't didn't have a
choice um before we wrap up um we've got

(56:39):
contacts
cuties is cuties spell with the K yeah
lady killing readers so this is I think
we've heard about this in other issues
haven't we it's a bunch of girls sending
in oh yeah slightly spicy pictures so
I'm not I'm not going to be putting the
these on our Instagram um I mean do you
want to do you want to just peruse and

(57:00):
give me just general outline of do
I I think someone wrote in complaining
that they were either in underwear or
normal clothes and we couldn't work out
what the point was but I think they were
saying they should have been more
dressed more metal yeah I remember that
cuz you know they

(57:21):
are very much either in underwear or
normal clothes I mean I'll be honest you
very 80s and um the [ __ ] ' 80s 88
they're like 19 so you know just to put
some context to this and um that bottom
I mean most of them I mean one of them
looks like she's gone to a like you know

(57:43):
photographer where she takes they take B
Shoes you know like my sister once had
those you remember me I remember hearing
about we made fun of it so much cuz she
went to have those photos and we won it
she won it in a competition and um it's
just if you if one of your siblings has
something like that done you can only

(58:04):
make fun of it because it's the funniest
thing when they're trying to look all
dead serious and I'm I'm sexy and look
at me you know you've got to make fun of
it um would you have sent a picture of
yourself at age 17 um would
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you I can't really remember what i'
would be like at 17 like mentally

(58:27):
like I'm going to go with not very
confident confident was spelled with a K
obviously
um
nah no God no like in a magazine where
it's
printed no and then some [ __ ] idiot
35 years later is going to be looking at

(58:47):
it
no um okay well be we're going to leave
you there but I'm just going to leave
you with one last letter um wasted dog
22 into Venom possessed rudimentary peni
discharge discharge what wait wait wait
wait wait back up back up back up back

(59:09):
the [ __ ] up what did you just say p and
discharge rudimentary py rudimentary
peni and discharge that's two separate
there a band called discharge is that
what you telling me yeah extreme noise
Terror Napal death bolt thrower anti SE
oh my God seeks life forms especially

(59:30):
redhaired female aliens 20 plus into
total intensity for brain cell
destruction and Ott sessions quote I'm
possessed by all that is evil the death
of you God I demand I spit at the Virgin
you worship and sit at Lord Satan's left
hand Christ full caps here endeth the

(59:51):
first lesson write to Satan slave
Grimsby
that's so
intense what I don't get about like sort
of Satan worshippers is that Satan's
like not a nice guy he's not going to
like make sure they have a totally hella
time and the everything's totally metal

(01:00:14):
and everything's rocking and you've got
all the beers you want and you're having
a great time cuz isn't his whole thing
about having a bad time so like if
anything he's going to make you listen
to everything but metal and But Metal
and uh like not give you beer and you
know make you wear like really Square

(01:00:35):
Pants and like a shirt and tie and stuff
like isn't that what hell would be for
someone metal it wouldn't be it would do
you know what I mean this is what I
don't
understand like
it I don't know you know luckily not met
the Devils I don't know but I just my
vibe from him is that he's not

(01:00:56):
accommodating and he's not trying to
make your life
better so it's weird that people always
assume that it's just going to be party
time because it's party time for him but
isn't the point that he's like bad like
that's his whole thing I just I don't
but like if you listen to Hell's on

(01:01:18):
fire they're painting a like Steel
Panther painting a very positive picture
of Hell aren't they cuz all the coolest
people are down there
yeah but what if you get there and all
the coolest people are just being proper
for one of better term cringe and like I
know that's very jenzy of me and bet

(01:01:39):
jenzy like shut up Grandma you just
ruined it um don't jenzy think like
drinking and partying is cring oh my God
none of them drink It's the weird it's
as a Elder
Millennial uh let's not forget
um they it's the it's I mean it's sort

(01:02:01):
of nice I guess to see a whole
generation
not um drinking a lot I guess like we
did destroying brain C but then at the
same
time I mean like right another hike yeah
I get it right and then what right do
you I mean come on I'm not no I'm not

(01:02:22):
advocating alcohol butter so come on
kids I just just get wasted see what
it's like but even like but like oh
[ __ ] okay that Iron Maiden box is just
not enough for your microphone sorry my
microphone just fell off the Iron Maiden
sock box that we did mention in the last

(01:02:45):
episode and if you do want to purchase
um please visit the link uh in the show
notes which is where you can purchase
them from Amazon and I can confirm that
they're good socks they aren't very
they're not too grippy around your ankle
so you feel like you know you're wearing
those weird flight socks and you know

(01:03:06):
they they last and they uh they're not
too squashy I hate socks where you put
them on and you feel like it's you know
an
ordal there and they've got some good
patterns on and the box is excellent
quality that they come in so you can
stand your microphone on that it's just
don't knock it off because it is at the
moment it's a it's a sock box on top of
a book um I not forgotten what we're

(01:03:28):
talking about
drinking um that's is that because you
are
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drinking just don't know what you do you
don't what you feel is right exactly
exactly no no I think what I was going
to say was we were talking about
Millennials and Gen X I was get gen Z
and X mixed up and um but I think even

(01:03:52):
before then every generation before that
was seemed to drink at least didn't they
yeah so but even like back
to 50s and 60s you know they drinking
weren't they but it's just so it's just
interesting that it's come to
this there's no big story there just
think the world will be better because

(01:04:14):
people
aren't face no it must be of course it
must be yeah it must
be that so I'm
joking um we're going to wrap up
up uh will why do I keep tell girl from
Meo that's what I keep doing I think
when I my brain goes on to put in hold

(01:04:35):
music um I go to the girl from meepa
because of cable guy oh yeah yeah yeah
yeah okay what's the Cable
Guy no it's not don't like listen to
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not bye love you
[Music]
yeah when you get
long L for the

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sound
is
here I know your cross is getting heavy
with every step every step but I know a
man who walk miles for
you
stop fade away an hour take a look at

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yourself take a good look at
[Music]
yourself can't turn to
Mama cuz she don't tell you she told you
so
that every one of us is still learning
that's the real trick to life we all
know yeah

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