May 27, 2024 • 53 mins
It's Q, so by law there has to be a feature about U2, but it's U2 in their postmodern, post-earnest, post black and white phase. We discuss the best song they ever did- see if you can guess which it is, considering we also talk about Batman Forever on this one.
Also featured is Prince so we investigate further his collaboration with Kate Bush and discover something that presumably everyone else knew since The Red Shoes came out. Also fun fact, we reveal which of Prince’s entourage appeared in Buffy and how much we spent on a VHS box set of Season 5.
Faith No More, W.A.S.P, Napalm Death and Marillion all get reviews, so we're still keeping one foot in the hard rock universe. We remember Peachfuzz the friendly wolf and The Breakfast Club.
Recorded 28th April 2024
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riddle me this riddle me this riddle me
this riddle me that who's afraid of the
big black Pat
[Music]
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[Music]
let's do it let's do this um do you want
to do the introduction I didn't know yet
you started I thought we were testing it
I already tested it oh uh no you do the
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instruction welcome to can I pod with
Madness uh the podcast that's ostensibly
about old rock magazines but really it's
been pointed out to me that we just
mostly talk about other stuff which is
fine
um yeah and on that I had a few things I
(01:04):
wanted to add on to like your playlist
you add on for this and one of them
isn't technically sort of kurish but
it's tangental linked so it's not
completely off topic all
right well one thing we should add on is
the peach fuzz video I've just played
you okay do you want to explain to our
dear listeners so what the hell you talk
(01:25):
about film creep um if you've not seen
it watch it cuz it's very good it's very
funny um it's funny and scary um but
there's a guy in it who puts on a wolf
mask and is calls himself peach fuzz um
and we were we were just talking about
removing peach fuzz from your face which
(01:46):
is why I'm what made me think of it
dermaplaning which is face
shaving um but so he is called peach
fuzz and he sings this song about being
Peach fuz um I mean if you've not seen
the film I'm not sure whether the video
would be funny I'm not sure but or just
a bit weird it's only 30 seconds but I
(02:07):
don't know it if you've watched the film
you'll probably like to revisit that
part of it because it is funny I'll
stick that on the playlist yeah that's
what I mean um but yeah the film's
called creep and who's the guy in at the
leag who no who's peach
fuzz um Mark we've seen it load and I
cannot picture the guy who's not peach
fuzz oh I think the guy who's not peach
(02:29):
fuzz is the guy who wrote it or directed
it
creep
film
2014 oh my God is that a long time ago
that is a long time
ago um Mark dupas Mark dupass is
D Peach
(02:50):
fuz oh is it because you don't really
see because he's behind the
camera you know why I can't really pict
his face no MD plus is no yeah he's PCT
us but it's the other guy the guy is
filming right yes I was thinking why
can't I picture his face um yeah but it
is is worth watching definitely let's I
wonder whether it's on
(03:12):
anything I mean it was on
Netflix was it when we watched it and
there's PE there's Peach for there's
creep 2 as well we've watched that
haven't we yeah I don't remember too
much about it I can't remember
that um
where to watch Netflix creep is on
(03:32):
Netflix
Amon in a nutshell disturbing enigmatic
and suspenseful they they've missed out
funny because it's that kind
of you can't have a guy singing about
his name is peach fuzz in a peach fuzz
outfit and know it is funny but it's
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that kind of
um like haha that's really scary be it'd
be horrible it may happen to you yeah
but it's it's definitely not um not
without humor yeah uh creep and creep 2
both on Netflix so if you got Netflix um
what's saying here where to watch on
Amazon Prime as well oh £549 forget that
(04:14):
Jesus 549 nowadays Netflix forget that
it's not that good not nothing's £549
good oh we made a money um right so that
was the first thing um just trying not
to knock over
I put Peach fuz on the playlist okay so
my next one
(04:36):
was um I was watching
a um Breakfast Club Reunion yeah and um
I used to watch Breakfast Club all the
time um all the time and The Breakfast
Club reunion was at
kamakan um a few years ago I think
fairly recently and it had everyone but
(04:58):
AMZ
why didn't he do it better things to do
they said he's off being a Mighty Duck
is what they said okay um and it was
really good
um Anthony Michael Hall is it Anthony or
Anthony I think said Anthony then but is
it should know I should know the answer
(05:20):
to that I'm a bit disgusted at myself
hold on one
second 85 for anyone listening
Anthony Michael Hall um he was
um very uh Charming very like they were
(05:41):
all really like thank you know people
were asking questions and they were all
dead um nice to the guests asking
questions and saying thank you and thank
you we won't be here without you and
just really nice so it it's Pleasant to
watch if you YouTube that um if you're
into the film um um and where was I
going with this right okay so a song
(06:04):
that's the one yes okay no right so the
reason that I I'm going to argue that
it's sort of related to what we talk
about is that Bender in it is totally
metal I mean he's a bit he might listen
to Pearl Jam but he definitely listens
to Mel as well he's not listen to pear
jam if it's 1985
cuz I was I thought that might be the
(06:24):
only argument coming my way because he
looks a bit flannel doesn't he like he's
yeah um but he would totally be
listening to Mel
one's well what would Bender listen
to should we see I mean you know that
film better than I do oh God you make me
sick hold on talking on to
(06:45):
yourselves what music I'm I'm Googling
it what music would John
Bender
um Listen to Let's see if someone's
answered this bands does Bender from
Breakfast Club listen to Reddit [ __ ]
love
Reddit absolutely love it people asking
(07:06):
these stupid questions that you at like
it's the Clash Iron Maiden right there
you go exactly my point exactly well
done J
132 right visual lingonberry 53 has put
Metallica ACDC Black Flag Jimmy
Hendrick TI possibly um so there you go
so the internet agrees with me this is
(07:27):
related to what we're talking about and
it's not off topic so that being said I
mean this isn't anything to do with John
Bender nor is it a song that would be
considered metal so my point loses its
its Point slightly here but there's um
if you listen to The Breakfast Club
soundtrack it's really good there's a
lot of like this the love theme for You'
(07:49):
actually got that CD don't you listen to
it a lot um but there's a song called
didn't I tell you and it's just a proper
Banger it's proper 8s Banger by and you
probably won't if you don't know you
might not know it and it'll be a nice
80s Banger to suddenly ENT your lives
for free have it didn't I tell you
didn't I tell you Joyce Kennedy 4
(08:11):
minutes 48 for anyone interested Joyce
Kennedy all right what's the famous song
of uh well don't you forget about me
well yeah which is male s well I mean it
might be mentioned in
kuang well funnily enough I think when
we were looking looking at like early
80s kangs there was some mention of
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simple minds but um they're not metal
are they no they're not you know what I
mean like rock I'm I'm just trying to
desperately keep it on topic but finding
but but John Bender in Breakfast Club
you look at an image of him he's metal
yeah he's wearing a um leather biker
(08:55):
glove that's metal right don't tell me
anything else I've seen like memes where
it's each of them and there's a band and
like one of them's like Joy Division and
one of them's New Order and like it's
all 80s Al Shi Joy Division yes fun fact
on the reunion not to spoiler the
reunion if you do watch it at the
beginning of the Breakfast Club it has
(09:16):
the um lyric from um
B's
changes of course it does yeah yeah and
that was Ali shi's idea oh really yeah
who idea to put that on and then
when they all get stoned not a spoiler
the film for you I watched it spoiler
they all get stoned and Anthony Michael
(09:37):
Hall who's like a you know the dweeb uh
character he starts um doing like a bit
like you probably don't remember do you
no um he starts doing like a bit like a
comedy bit and it's because Anthony
Michael Hall was well into comedy
records like the um Richard prior and
people like that records and he would he
(09:58):
said he just listen to them all the
times he was just doing what he like
imitating what he found really great at
the time which was like people like
Richard prior that's and that's why he's
doing that bit in it right right right
so that's not written into it he's just
doing like a he's acting you know stoned
and silly but that's comes because he
(10:19):
Anthony Michael Hall actually really
likes um comedy records so there you go
um wonder if there's anything else um uh
you'll listen to The Breakfast Club
cast well it's a good film I don't I you
can't argue that it's not and um well
this is definitely a part of your
childhood isn't it the Breakfast Club oh
(10:41):
Gen X apparently claimed The Breakfast
Club well it's yeah I mean if I'm a
Johnny L so if you were 13 when it
well it it came out oh it came out when
I was 13 so I guess if if you were s 16
you'd be Gen X and you'd be watching
(11:01):
that film I suppose it sort of passed me
by a bit I never I didn't see it until I
met you
um but yeah yeah definitely Gen X yeah
yeah and you've just gravitated towards
it because you like the 80s I
suppose
yeah yeah gu sir okay so um right so
(11:24):
that song you can listen to it like you
can p we can we can pause here while you
listen to like a little of it um well I
I've added it to the yeah I know but you
haven't listened to it didn't not tell
you
yeah sh on the floor yeah she already
(11:49):
Banger and it sounds very 80s
comments are turned off everyone's just
it blows up it's it's too
popular let's get to the C oh no no wait
(12:10):
no go back you ruined that because it
was a buildup oh my God you ruin
music you cut all this B
(12:36):
did it make you want do
this doesn't it yeah then
now and what's see what a great song If
(12:56):
you haven't heard this song what a great
song to find for the first time in
2024 it's an absolute gem you're welcome
you're welcome listen to it but let your
guard down don't try and be cool
listening to it just listen to it and
just enjoy yourself stand in front of
the miror and dance as if like you you
know like you're at a wedding I I always
(13:16):
do this and I realize other people might
not like pretend like you're dancing a
wedding like you know there are people
that watching you but you're pretending
like not to notice that they're watching
you but you know they're watching you so
you're really busting out your best
moves and you just been they like cool
about like oh well didn't you know I
could dance and then they're like oh my
god um like she's really good and then
um you just like whatever I'm just I'm
(13:37):
just enjoying I'm just having a great
time but I can also just really dance if
you noticed I'm on the beat um and so do
that in front of the m and if you do do
it do you ever dance and pretend like
people like in a situation like people
are watching you and they're really
impressed I don't think
so but if you do it listeners write it
in let us know
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I think yeah it's a weird thing I always
always do I always imagine someone's
watching me that like I'm not going to
make I'm not going to let them know I
know they're watching you are dancing or
you just imagining dancing no no when
like in the bedroom when I'm getting
right get ready for
work um
yeah okay well I mean if you
(14:21):
remember last episode we were not
talking about karang we were talking
about Q magazine so it's a little bit
more mainstream it's a little bit more
it's a little less sort of subcultural L
you trying to get it back on track yeah
okay but it's just you
know so what you want to talk
[Music]
(14:41):
about um prince prince well there is a
print article that's should we find it
kind of why I said
it
um
okay what year is this one uh this is
1992 moving to92
in a room
(15:01):
a you know last time we talked about um
Prince working with Kate Bush and
recording with
her yes um I was listening to Lenny
Henry's a biography and he said Kate
Bush called her
up he said Kate Bush called him up and
(15:21):
said you want to be on my album and he
was like yeah of course I do to Prince
no to Lenny Henry
okay so I don't know I don't know why
she rang him but can you sing he sings a
bit I mean when he does his stand-up
shows he's got like comedy characters
where he does like I've never heard him
(15:43):
sing he's got a Blues he's got a blue
singer and he's got like a soul singer
called theopolis P wilderbeast who's
like
a you know he's like a sort of Barry
White kind of you know slow jams he's
everything's like for the ladies you
know s Lu
Andros but I I mean I guess Kate Bush
(16:04):
must have been a fan so she rang him
saying do you want to come and be on my
album and he was like yeah obviously he
went around and he said he had a lovely
day with her and like you know just
smoking [ __ ] and drinking tea and she
played him the track and he was like oh
this doesn't sound like your stuff and
he was like oh the guitar sounds sounds
a bit like Prince and then he noticed
(16:26):
some of the backin vocals he said that
really sounds like like Prince and she
was like oh yeah it is him so Prince had
recorded some stuff and sent it to her
to be on one of her tracks and like
Lenny Henry who's obviously a massive
Prince fan is like trying to sort of
live up to you know the stuff that's on
the back in track right but uh I forget
(16:48):
the name of the song it's called why do
you love me or why don't you love me did
he sing on it yeah yeah and he sang on
it
yeah weird that mean check it
out so it's on a Kate Bush ALB I think
it's on the red
shoes K
(17:09):
Bush why should I love you it's called
okay um just play a bit of it
(17:35):
L yeah I
think I can kind of hear that a
bit it doesn't sound like Kate Bush does
it well she's not singing yet no but
like the music it you wouldn't hear this
(17:56):
and
think no
stay like this yeah it stays like this
yeah I think
so do she sing on
it that sounds like Prince that's prin
(18:18):
that's obviously
[Music]
Prince yeah that's obviously
Prince
(18:42):
that's so it's a quince song with weird
Lenny Henry bits at the
beginning did she sing on
it well I jumped to the middle
so I imagine she's on there somewhere
there oh she's there she's there with
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him
[Music]
though right so it's a PR
song
Right nice so there you go that's I mean
that surprised me
(19:25):
anyway um
okay so the the uh Prince article is
called Optimum
shaboy uh the prince World Tour hits
Britain this month we sent Phil Su Cliff
to preview the shows from Australia and
be warned he's using the term funky
(19:46):
bedum says right um so yeah I I read
this article and basically he doesn't
get an interview but he speaks to the
band because obviously Prince has got
better things to do than talk to cube
magazine
um quote I didn't really notice Prince
till he walked through the schoolyard
one day wearing just an open trench coat
(20:06):
and a pair of Underpants says Damon
Dixon of the new Power generation's
dazzling dance team we just looked and
said what the hell is that you see he's
been Prince a long time observes drummer
Michael be vast and vibrant with
hilarity so he sort of talk about his
background really um musically there
didn't seem to be anything special about
(20:26):
growing up in Minneapolis says Tony this
is the guy who does all raps Tony Tony
Tony
M Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony
M
um I think he's the guy on Jug Head who
(20:47):
goes you know be be yeah just slaps that
guy at the end who's going I can make
you a star do you remember that bit um
there's nothing special about growing up
in Minneapolis one thing though it's
real cold serious snow so we would be
indoors all through the winter
(21:07):
practicing a lot sharing whatever
equipment we had then in the summer all
the bands were battling each other for
the same gigs it was very
competitive um Prince it cost a lot to
heat paisy Park then in that case
(21:27):
because paisy Park is massive and the
bit you always see if you Google it is
like the hallway where there's all the
clouds
painted um sure you're familiar if it's
it's like a big entrance way but there's
all it's like his suit in raspber breay
and
uh yeah it must have been either
(21:49):
freezing or incredibly expensive to eat
but it was then yeah and it wasn't like
it is now where everything's too
expensive to keep warm
but um given that it was cuz they keep
they talk about that a lot people
mention that a lot how cold it is there
cuz he said that's why he liked being in
Minneapolis cuz it's too cold so it
(22:10):
keeps people out right and that's why he
likes being
there that's why he dances so much to
keep warm yes sir uh princess in us
doing some dancing around rehearsing and
told us he'd like us to do something
Damon recalls this was 9:00 in the
evening and he said he'd liked to see
routines for seven of his songs by 7 the
(22:31):
following morning it was very unusual
says Tony we went to my apartment moved
all the furniture out of the way and my
ma let us work through till breakfast
and we did it they filmed us for a video
and it all ended up on The Cutting Room
floor um one that's what you should
expect I think when you're working with
Prince I
imagine one facet of band Pride's Fierce
(22:54):
commitment to bracing uncertainties of
an all live show Strictly no Memorex man
there's too many fakers out there says
Michael so I mean that's the Mantra
isn't it my microphone is
on you need to maybe add on to your
playlist uh Prince's know Shady moments
or whatever cuz there loads of those
(23:19):
yeah um a man like Prince you've got to
like him for even the slightest hint of
not taking himself 100% seriously it
makes the sheer look look at me flash
even better this is into Daddy pop now I
mean he's he's describing the show
basically cuz he can't get an interview
the funk is crunching non-stop 18 people
on stage including the horn section and
(23:39):
Prince is showing off his James Brown
Mike stand pyate Technics bouncing off
his chest dropping into splits and then
flipping it off his thigh there's barely
a second to spare a glance for Glam
dancers Diamond and Pearl simultaneously
gyrating in furry night
attire do you remember that diamond and
one of them is Miss calendar from
(24:01):
Buffy
no yeah the so I don't remember Miss C's
face uh well that's
her oh right it really blur I mean yeah
she's the one in the back who's a bit
blurry but she's uh Miss Miss
yeah she was in the early series of
(24:21):
Buffy and she went out with Giles and
got killed by a demon I think remember
Giles having a girlfriend yeah
and she'd cavorted with Prince a decade
earlier
wow she should look old enough to have
done that a decade earlier she it's no
(24:42):
it's not a decade this this was 92 when
Buffy was like 96 97 I think 97 to 2003
right right okay and I think this might
have been the first tour that my was on
cuz they mention Mighty the ballerina
does a liquid limed romance
(25:05):
dance cuz I think he had Diamond and
Pearl and then he was sort of phasing
them out cuz he wanted her to be like
his main Angel killed this woman oh yeah
yeah destroyed her computer and
printer [ __ ] petty [ __ ] what a
bastard I mean in those times that was a
good
(25:26):
4,000 in Tech
a computer and a printer 4,000 at the
least and snapped her neck killing her
but I mean it starts off with destroyed
her computer and printer and snapped her
neck this is The Buffy fandom do Wiki so
her computer first then a printer then a
neck that's the order of I don't know
(25:46):
whether importance
or
um where what you know when it actually
happened I don't know Angel left Jenny's
dead body in childes's bed
with a trail of romantic symbols leading
to the scene oh yeah I remember that
Jesus Christ yeah don't remember that
(26:07):
that's horrific when Angel went
evil she probably had some files she
probably had some like here's how you
kill but why destroy the I mean I know
we all know night now that printers do
actually have a memory chip and you
can't just unplug a print and think that
it doesn't have stuff on that you've
printed it does it keeps a memory of
(26:27):
that but you're telling me the angel
knew that a printer attached to the
computer would have known that I didn't
know that back in 97 but if I went evil
and I'd ever used a printer I would
definitely have smashed a printer that's
true yeah CU you wouldn't trust it would
you well just they're annoying because
they don't they don't work half the time
you want to know what the saddest
(26:47):
episode of Buffy was uh the body your
guess
yeah yeah the body yeah
harrowing uh
no I think the saddest one is I mean I
don't want to say because if people
haven't watched it and you know because
we still Haven watch loss so it's not
impossible I don't think people are
(27:08):
saving Buffy to watch are they well all
right when one when Buffy sacrifices
herself oh yeah I think that's a saddest
cuz Spike cries oh yeah
yeah it's like that's really sad it's
all on Disney plus now we should watch
we should watch it again
(27:29):
quite the
uh is the pause for effect I'm trying
I'm trying to think of a good way to say
it it was it was very much um the show
of the moment wasn't it it was it was
like everyone was watching it back then
um yeah in the late 90s I'm sure I've
(27:49):
mentioned about how much the VHS has
cost I don't think you have on here have
I not no so I bought uh the series that
was referring to because that was when
Spike was in it and he was nice he
wasn't a you know that [ __ ] hanging
out with juill and
um he he was more you know friendly and
(28:11):
it night just night he was a good better
character um and so I bought it was the
series was split into two sets of three
vhs's in each set of three vhs's was
£35 so I spent
£70 on one series of Buffy on VHS and at
(28:32):
that time that was a horrific amount of
money to spend but that's how desperate
I was to watch those episodes a lot and
I've never quite got over spending 70s
on a
VHS season was that season
five well I was thinking my head six or
maybe five something like that um well
(28:52):
four was the
one70 where it was that paramilitary
organization they went to college and it
was the the initiative or something they
were making that sort of Frankenstein
man that was season 4 right and then
season five was
glory and then season six I'm really
(29:14):
struggling to remember Glory was part of
it wasn't it because she's the one
who caught a big
downfall yeah and was a dawn in it by
Point yeah cuz Glory was the birth of
dawn wasn't it right right
right I mean I I think I've got all all
(29:34):
of them on DVD subsequently bought them
on DVD but they never cost that much
they never cost 75 quid for a season it
was like 35 or 40 or I but I don't know
why they split a season up into three
into two separate lots of three vhs's
because there be so many tapes wouldn't
it no that's true you'd have a lot of
(29:56):
tapes don't know where they are now you
I didn't even keep the boxes you must
have thrown them out must have them
because they're not here are they no and
they've not been in an old house
no no a waste no it wasn't a waste I
watch I watched them a lot yeah it was
it was it was of its time definitely
(30:16):
definitely wasn't I mean it was it's
like spending 10,000 do
it price comparison from so when was
season six of Buffy um good question so
well we'll pretend it's season 6 Buffy
season
6 uh so that was
2002 which
(30:38):
was 22 years ago two
so so 7 inflation calculator in
2002 okay 9
million uh 2002
(31:00):
sorry so 70
70 uh 70 pound so in March to1
12498
[ __ ] it's
quite in 2002 I was at Uni I didn't have
a job that's a lot of money to spend on
one series of a TV show it has to be
(31:22):
said not the best
series it was just that I think it was
just that episode and just needed to
rewatch that obsessively we can imagine
such a thing now you were obsess you had
a bit of a spike fixation didn't you
yeah hyper fixation yeah it's gone now
it's generally vampires isn't it so you
(31:42):
had Spike you had Billy worth
yeah I mean there any other vampires you
like Gary Oldman
no no I don't think so Christopher Lee
[Music]
no but they have to come out longer
Justa point when you're
(32:05):
like when you're always ready to accept
them don't
they full hyper fixation homeboy from
being human who's being human um he he
went on to play the sexy dwarf in The
Hobbit oh aen something no but yes if
he's a sexy
dwarfen him yeah as a sexy dwarfen h but
(32:28):
he played a sexy vampire in Being
[Music]
Human I didn't know that not interested
when he's like that in the wildes and
he's all he's keep bushing it there what
is he uh I think that's Paul is he 40 is
only 40 I that's what he says
here looking
(32:48):
hell doing all right in he he's the new
po dark he's po dark yeah yeah in 2015
that's nearly 10 years
ago
um I'll have to watch be here I've never
watched it so uh right it was that was
an early
2000s don't remember he was a vampire
(33:11):
and
um there was a guy who was a werewolf
and there was a girl who was a ghost and
the Werewolf was the guy who was in
American Horror
Story
NYC the English guy well he's probably
Irish or Scottish or something
oh who who are you talking about Russell
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toy Russell toy was the
werewolf right I don't know if you ever
saw him turn into a werewolf I mean you
must have done but uh there you go n
who's your sexiest horror characters let
us know is it Peach fuz learning all
sorts
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today
okay what's s to I remembered his name
yeah done press right
there he was good in that Aman story
yeah like he was an [ __ ] and he
didn't
deserve you sort of feeling
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compassionate towards him but you ended
up feeling compassionate towards him so
you
know good uh writing skills by the AHS
cast or
writers yeah the cast don't write it no
or maybe they do if you let if you know
let us
know uh so there's a big old article
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about YouTube because it's Q so they
have to have an article about Q um and I
thought about you too and I thought yeah
you just said an article about
Q it's an article about YouTu because
it's Q so they have to have an article
about YouTu but you said Q then I I
probably did yeah wait listen to it back
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just correct because it didn't make
sense so I thought I thought this was
really opposite like the Abba thing like
because this is the point it was
after uh Joshua tree so they stopped
being all Earnest and serious and in
black and white all the time and they
went all sort of postmodern and ironic
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with the Acton baby
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album and they had this big show that
was all sort of like multimedia and
loads of video stuff and like it was it
was all sort of oh isn't the future
weird but that's sort of what they're
doing now with their they're doing that
Las Vegas show in that Dome aren't they
and it's it seems to be I mean obviously
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we have not seen it because we've not
been to Las Vegas but it seems similar
in it's it's doing a sort of similar
thing but like looking at this article
and the photos they said oh yeah they
got a massive video wall and look at
their massive video
wall it's [ __ ] tiny it's just like
about 12 TV
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screens oh my God know it's like the
biggest band in the
world but it it in these pictures it
looks really small it does look very
small but um this is when Bono started
wearing a cowo a gold Cowboy the sphere
though there are seats where you can't
see the whole
sphere well that's mad why would what's
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the point of having spere if you look at
reals cuz people have made them when
they've turned up realizing that theyve
bought seats where you can't actually
see the full um like IMAX view I guess
is sort of what it's similar to um
because of the like balcony overhead
right so it's like they've got a big
balcony and if they're like oh back they
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they can't see it and they ask people on
these wheels well why are we paying the
same price and they're like tough [ __ ]
basically oh they don't
do not cheaper so these people turned up
I mean I'm only going by what people
have done reals on but I don't know why
they' lie I mean as I say that loud I
realize of course we know why people
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would lie because it get some attention
on social media but they've turned up
not knowing that it's rest restrictive
viewing I mean it's possible it says
somewhere restrictive viewing yeah but I
think if you were going to book tickets
to see You2 at the sphere it wouldn't be
in your mind to look for something that
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was saying restrictive viewing I
wouldn't be looking for that I'd
assume you're getting the experience so
if you if they missed it I can
understand why they would miss it
because you wouldn't be looking for it
whereas people who go to theaters now
you look for it because you know that
there might be you know you might be
sitting behind a pole and [ __ ] but the
sphere is something brand new to people
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so I think um maybe they could have been
clearer on
their um thing possibly I've not tried
to book tickets so I don't know don't
know how much it costs I bet it's
expensive I imagine it's quite expensive
one of the things they talk about in
this article is about how crazy
expensive their shows are well I've seen
a um again a wheel um about it's Nirvana
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talking about ticket prices and they
say what do you think about such and
such I think they mentioned Madonna and
maybe someone else I've seen that yeah
charging people this much and like
kiran's face is like what who charges
that much and he can't believe that
they're charging that much for tickets
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um which
is yeah quite sweet um little insight
into Kirt
gain's um mind but like Nana were three
blos on stage or sometimes four and's
one woman on
stage yeah but Madonna had loads of
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dancers and she would have had like
multimedia stuff like she's putting on a
big theatrical show like like you two
are whereas Nana probably aren't
thinking about that they're just going
out no true they don't have costume
changes I mean I never saw Nana so uh no
shame can't be
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sure uh yeah someone wrote in to Q mail
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in this issue complaining about um
getting tickets for you's Earl's Court
show because you had to
queue for a 12h hour wait and didn't
even get tickets at the end of it well
that makes sense because you'd have to
get out you queue at a ticket office
yeah and people
would it's it's the same now but you
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just don't get through on the phone and
you don't get
home that makes
sense so um what are your feelings about
you
two um never listened to them a
lot
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um did they sing home me th me kiss me
kill me yeah okay so that was the only
single I ever bought of theirs and that
was it right that's that is the best
thing they ever did my
opin I don't just I've nothing against
them but music
either set something off inside you
which makes you want to engage in it and
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think about it and obsess about it or it
doesn't and it just did for whatever
reason it's not it's not them it's
probably me but well it's down to your
mates as well if your mates aren't
listening to something it can pass you
by can't but some type of
music excites you some doesn't and it
just didn't spark any excitement aart
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from that one song which I bought on
single so they you have got some of my
my money like £4.49 or something
probably but um and that song was
from um Batman Batman Forever which is
possibly the most in retrospect the most
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disappointing uh experience I had in a
cinema because it looked like it was
going to be so good and that song made
it seem like it was going to be so good
it was so sort of exciting every
everything was neon it looked like the
comics you know and like two face was in
it and Jim Carrey was playing the
Riddler and never seen
it I mean you
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well you should
watch the first Batman the Batman 89 cuz
you like Michael Keaton don't you you've
never seen that do and he's got Prince
he's got Prince on the soundtrack but um
yeah Batman Forever that I mean that
song's [ __ ] ace and I I feel like
that song's good
because they just knocked it out when
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they're on tour as far as I can tell it
was right about this time they did actum
baby and then they did
Zopa and it was it was sort of round
about that time but it's really sort of
dramatic and I don't know I always I
always like that song I mean I like a
lot of this stuff but uh I don't think
they ever did anything else like that
(42:09):
ever
again um looking at the date 95 95 so
three years after this but I think that
tour just went on and on and on and it's
got the sort of iconography of that tour
in the video and they had they had like
cartoony stuff in it that looked like
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Batman the Animated Series just got very
excited about it h
yeah video is animated yeah never
watched a video it's also got bits of
the film in it and it made it look like
it was going to be so
good but
uh it is not um although if you do like
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Batman Forever uh let us know
um I just think Stadium rock is still in
its infancy Bono Muses accepting that
the mega gigs are an inescapable fact of
life at you's level yeah because I think
they were getting told off for you
know playing fewer gigs in you know
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gigantic places and having to charge
loads they were told off for doing that
or for not doing it they well they like
people people were annoyed that their
ticket prices were so high and they were
only only playing you know in orades and
stuff they played leads didn't they did
they yeah at this period um don't know
(43:36):
round a park probably yeah
probably
okay let's let's move
on uh there's a review of um angel dust
by Faith No More so something that we
would normally talk about in karang
(43:57):
um and they get four
stars okay good that's good yeah no it's
four out of five you know but uh yeah
the angel dust album uh did go and see
them on that tour and very exciting
remember who you talking about Faith No
More I forgot who you said about okay
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um yeah the big hit from that was
midlife crisis do you know that song no
I think they played it the night we go
to a few
times 20 years ago yeah yeah but back
when we were um you know Young Young
Bucks around
(44:40):
town so there's a review of an album by
Sly Dunbar right of Sly and Robbie Fame
and they mentioned the song Murder She
Wrote which you know later came out as
chakade Demus and pliers you know that
song and I remember seeing a news
article saying someone asked Angela
Lansbury about it um and she said she
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was very proud to have something to do
with reggae a bless
her um there's a review of grous Maximus
by the electric
boys um and it said she's into something
heavy appears to have borrowed the riff
from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and also not
(45:25):
is Mary in The Mystery World which
appears to have been cloned from
Sergeant Pepper's DNA and I had listened
to this and I remember it from the time
and I will put that on the playlist but
uh yeah very sort of 60s psych but
very sort of mean like proper [ __ ] rock
you know it's all
about girls wiggling their asses as far
(45:47):
as I can tell
lovely um
see what else we've got in the review
section uh there's a review of um Napalm
death with their album Utopia
(46:09):
banished and it tells us they officially
known as grind core so if you ever sort
of struggling
to I would thought thrash but I think
it's a bit more than it's bit sort of
more extreme than
thrash
um but it says in order to play Such
Preposterous tempos the band especially
(46:30):
drummer Danny harara are physically
unable to hit their instruments very
hard despite the music's breathless
quality there is a curious and
unintended lightness of touch it may
sound rush but turn it up as loud as you
want it never sounds heavy so that's
what Chuck kman was saying in Fargo Rock
City about like the difference between
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heavy and hard yeah and like he was
saying the faster you go the less heavy
you become
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um right I don't remember that but yeah
it I can sort of see what they mean you
know like some of this music it does
just sound like a sort of flurry of
sound and you don't get that bottom
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end okay um also talking about Kang
stuff there's a review of the Crimson
Idol by
wasp um it says
it owes just about everything to the
who's tommmy
thematically
um had Roger Roger doter spent the
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entire recording session with his
private parts gripped firmly in the
slaving jaws of a rotweiler
um in short crap but flailing energetic
and Wildey crap that offers happy
reassurance that in some quarters Rock
hasn't grown
up thought that was a a nice uh way of
describing wasp
(47:57):
oh and there's a review of uh the
singles collection by
merilan um three stars that's not very
good if you're interested well you know
it's better than better than
shite um well yeah it's not good it's
average isn't it it's it is average but
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like they weren't a singles back they
all their singles but they were an
albums band you know all the singles are
like sort of edited down and they never
really sort of worked in the
charts um there's a review of a
compilation album called Gothic Rock
okay which is about Gothic Rock and at
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the top here you see um dance
society and I when I lived in Sheffield
I knew someone who was the brother of
the guitarist in dance Society so that's
the that's the brush I've had with goth
it's pretty cool
um and it lists uh some of the Bands
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um so there's a band called NOS Fatu who
travel to gigs in a hearse and publish a
fanine called grimoire you can't get
much more goth than that can
you you probably could
but I mean you probably could but I mean
if you're going to start out in a goth B
(49:21):
traveling around in a hearse is it's a
good first attempt one of one of the uh
better ways you can can do
it
um in re-releases um they've got hello
Dad I'm in jail by was not was and I
wanted to mention that because they
mention a song called shake your head
which features a duet by oie oorn and
(49:43):
Kim Bassinger do you remember that no
was sort of Kim Bassinger sort of doing
like a sexy voice and then Aussie sort
wailing on top of it
the boss's
daugh you can't make missiles out of mud
and you can't purify Bad
(50:06):
Blood you can't feed the
hungry you can't pretend to have
fun you can't be a robot
M and you can't
expect just to
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(50:39):
and I remember in um in O's
autobiography talks about it he recorded
it much earlier than that and when he
originally recorded it was with Madonna
but in the meantime Madonna become
became more much more sort of popular
and successful and she blocked the
release so she didn't she didn't want
that release so they just redid it with
(50:59):
Kim passenger
right never knew that well we will put
that on the
playlist um and that's pretty
much everything I wanted to talk about I
mean there's a ton of other stuff you've
got a cat trying to get past you yeah
there is a I mean she's not she's not
(51:20):
very vocal you're in the way of her
trying to
see she just wants to get
there she wants to be there yeah where
exactly where you
were there you go see okay so our um our
cat problems uh have sorted themselves
out y um is there anything else you want
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to leave our listeners with this this
week uh no don't think so no um okay
so you've done your deep Cuts you
haven't got any other deep Cuts so we
didn't talk about no okay all right well
we'll leave you we're loving our hearts
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that's nice um yeah obviously get in
touch if you've got any comments or uh
you know maybe criticism maybe keep that
to yourself I'd rather not hear any
criticism yeah I mean I'm I always want
feedback but I don't want any negative
feedback so you can't really expect one
without the other but um yeah if you're
(52:24):
still listening thanks
don't really know why you would be but
uh you we appreciate it we do uh follow
us on the
socials and we will see you stay metal
stay metal we'll see you when we see you
bye
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[Music]
riddle me this riddle me this riddle me
this riddle me that who's afraid of the
big black Pat
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(00:21):
[Music]
let's do it let's do this um do you want
to do the introduction I didn't know yet
you started I thought we were testing it
I already tested it oh uh no you do the
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instruction welcome to can I pod with
Madness uh the podcast that's ostensibly
about old rock magazines but really it's
been pointed out to me that we just
mostly talk about other stuff which is
fine
um yeah and on that I had a few things I
(01:04):
wanted to add on to like your playlist
you add on for this and one of them
isn't technically sort of kurish but
it's tangental linked so it's not
completely off topic all
right well one thing we should add on is
the peach fuzz video I've just played
you okay do you want to explain to our
dear listeners so what the hell you talk
(01:25):
about film creep um if you've not seen
it watch it cuz it's very good it's very
funny um it's funny and scary um but
there's a guy in it who puts on a wolf
mask and is calls himself peach fuzz um
and we were we were just talking about
removing peach fuzz from your face which
(01:46):
is why I'm what made me think of it
dermaplaning which is face
shaving um but so he is called peach
fuzz and he sings this song about being
Peach fuz um I mean if you've not seen
the film I'm not sure whether the video
would be funny I'm not sure but or just
a bit weird it's only 30 seconds but I
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don't know it if you've watched the film
you'll probably like to revisit that
part of it because it is funny I'll
stick that on the playlist yeah that's
what I mean um but yeah the film's
called creep and who's the guy in at the
leag who no who's peach
fuzz um Mark we've seen it load and I
cannot picture the guy who's not peach
fuzz oh I think the guy who's not peach
(02:29):
fuzz is the guy who wrote it or directed
it
creep
film
2014 oh my God is that a long time ago
that is a long time
ago um Mark dupas Mark dupass is
D Peach
(02:50):
fuz oh is it because you don't really
see because he's behind the
camera you know why I can't really pict
his face no MD plus is no yeah he's PCT
us but it's the other guy the guy is
filming right yes I was thinking why
can't I picture his face um yeah but it
is is worth watching definitely let's I
wonder whether it's on
(03:12):
anything I mean it was on
Netflix was it when we watched it and
there's PE there's Peach for there's
creep 2 as well we've watched that
haven't we yeah I don't remember too
much about it I can't remember
that um
where to watch Netflix creep is on
(03:32):
Netflix
Amon in a nutshell disturbing enigmatic
and suspenseful they they've missed out
funny because it's that kind
of you can't have a guy singing about
his name is peach fuzz in a peach fuzz
outfit and know it is funny but it's
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that kind of
um like haha that's really scary be it'd
be horrible it may happen to you yeah
but it's it's definitely not um not
without humor yeah uh creep and creep 2
both on Netflix so if you got Netflix um
what's saying here where to watch on
Amazon Prime as well oh £549 forget that
(04:14):
Jesus 549 nowadays Netflix forget that
it's not that good not nothing's £549
good oh we made a money um right so that
was the first thing um just trying not
to knock over
I put Peach fuz on the playlist okay so
my next one
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was um I was watching
a um Breakfast Club Reunion yeah and um
I used to watch Breakfast Club all the
time um all the time and The Breakfast
Club reunion was at
kamakan um a few years ago I think
fairly recently and it had everyone but
(04:58):
AMZ
why didn't he do it better things to do
they said he's off being a Mighty Duck
is what they said okay um and it was
really good
um Anthony Michael Hall is it Anthony or
Anthony I think said Anthony then but is
it should know I should know the answer
(05:20):
to that I'm a bit disgusted at myself
hold on one
second 85 for anyone listening
Anthony Michael Hall um he was
um very uh Charming very like they were
(05:41):
all really like thank you know people
were asking questions and they were all
dead um nice to the guests asking
questions and saying thank you and thank
you we won't be here without you and
just really nice so it it's Pleasant to
watch if you YouTube that um if you're
into the film um um and where was I
going with this right okay so a song
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that's the one yes okay no right so the
reason that I I'm going to argue that
it's sort of related to what we talk
about is that Bender in it is totally
metal I mean he's a bit he might listen
to Pearl Jam but he definitely listens
to Mel as well he's not listen to pear
jam if it's 1985
cuz I was I thought that might be the
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only argument coming my way because he
looks a bit flannel doesn't he like he's
yeah um but he would totally be
listening to Mel
one's well what would Bender listen
to should we see I mean you know that
film better than I do oh God you make me
sick hold on talking on to
(06:45):
yourselves what music I'm I'm Googling
it what music would John
Bender
um Listen to Let's see if someone's
answered this bands does Bender from
Breakfast Club listen to Reddit [ __ ]
love
Reddit absolutely love it people asking
(07:06):
these stupid questions that you at like
it's the Clash Iron Maiden right there
you go exactly my point exactly well
done J
132 right visual lingonberry 53 has put
Metallica ACDC Black Flag Jimmy
Hendrick TI possibly um so there you go
so the internet agrees with me this is
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related to what we're talking about and
it's not off topic so that being said I
mean this isn't anything to do with John
Bender nor is it a song that would be
considered metal so my point loses its
its Point slightly here but there's um
if you listen to The Breakfast Club
soundtrack it's really good there's a
lot of like this the love theme for You'
(07:49):
actually got that CD don't you listen to
it a lot um but there's a song called
didn't I tell you and it's just a proper
Banger it's proper 8s Banger by and you
probably won't if you don't know you
might not know it and it'll be a nice
80s Banger to suddenly ENT your lives
for free have it didn't I tell you
didn't I tell you Joyce Kennedy 4
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minutes 48 for anyone interested Joyce
Kennedy all right what's the famous song
of uh well don't you forget about me
well yeah which is male s well I mean it
might be mentioned in
kuang well funnily enough I think when
we were looking looking at like early
80s kangs there was some mention of
(08:33):
simple minds but um they're not metal
are they no they're not you know what I
mean like rock I'm I'm just trying to
desperately keep it on topic but finding
but but John Bender in Breakfast Club
you look at an image of him he's metal
yeah he's wearing a um leather biker
(08:55):
glove that's metal right don't tell me
anything else I've seen like memes where
it's each of them and there's a band and
like one of them's like Joy Division and
one of them's New Order and like it's
all 80s Al Shi Joy Division yes fun fact
on the reunion not to spoiler the
reunion if you do watch it at the
beginning of the Breakfast Club it has
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the um lyric from um
B's
changes of course it does yeah yeah and
that was Ali shi's idea oh really yeah
who idea to put that on and then
when they all get stoned not a spoiler
the film for you I watched it spoiler
they all get stoned and Anthony Michael
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Hall who's like a you know the dweeb uh
character he starts um doing like a bit
like you probably don't remember do you
no um he starts doing like a bit like a
comedy bit and it's because Anthony
Michael Hall was well into comedy
records like the um Richard prior and
people like that records and he would he
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said he just listen to them all the
times he was just doing what he like
imitating what he found really great at
the time which was like people like
Richard prior that's and that's why he's
doing that bit in it right right right
so that's not written into it he's just
doing like a he's acting you know stoned
and silly but that's comes because he
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Anthony Michael Hall actually really
likes um comedy records so there you go
um wonder if there's anything else um uh
you'll listen to The Breakfast Club
cast well it's a good film I don't I you
can't argue that it's not and um well
this is definitely a part of your
childhood isn't it the Breakfast Club oh
(10:41):
Gen X apparently claimed The Breakfast
Club well it's yeah I mean if I'm a
Johnny L so if you were 13 when it
well it it came out oh it came out when
I was 13 so I guess if if you were s 16
you'd be Gen X and you'd be watching
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that film I suppose it sort of passed me
by a bit I never I didn't see it until I
met you
um but yeah yeah definitely Gen X yeah
yeah and you've just gravitated towards
it because you like the 80s I
suppose
yeah yeah gu sir okay so um right so
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that song you can listen to it like you
can p we can we can pause here while you
listen to like a little of it um well I
I've added it to the yeah I know but you
haven't listened to it didn't not tell
you
yeah sh on the floor yeah she already
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Banger and it sounds very 80s
comments are turned off everyone's just
it blows up it's it's too
popular let's get to the C oh no no wait
(12:10):
no go back you ruined that because it
was a buildup oh my God you ruin
music you cut all this B
(12:36):
did it make you want do
this doesn't it yeah then
now and what's see what a great song If
(12:56):
you haven't heard this song what a great
song to find for the first time in
2024 it's an absolute gem you're welcome
you're welcome listen to it but let your
guard down don't try and be cool
listening to it just listen to it and
just enjoy yourself stand in front of
the miror and dance as if like you you
know like you're at a wedding I I always
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do this and I realize other people might
not like pretend like you're dancing a
wedding like you know there are people
that watching you but you're pretending
like not to notice that they're watching
you but you know they're watching you so
you're really busting out your best
moves and you just been they like cool
about like oh well didn't you know I
could dance and then they're like oh my
god um like she's really good and then
um you just like whatever I'm just I'm
(13:37):
just enjoying I'm just having a great
time but I can also just really dance if
you noticed I'm on the beat um and so do
that in front of the m and if you do do
it do you ever dance and pretend like
people like in a situation like people
are watching you and they're really
impressed I don't think
so but if you do it listeners write it
in let us know
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I think yeah it's a weird thing I always
always do I always imagine someone's
watching me that like I'm not going to
make I'm not going to let them know I
know they're watching you are dancing or
you just imagining dancing no no when
like in the bedroom when I'm getting
right get ready for
work um
yeah okay well I mean if you
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remember last episode we were not
talking about karang we were talking
about Q magazine so it's a little bit
more mainstream it's a little bit more
it's a little less sort of subcultural L
you trying to get it back on track yeah
okay but it's just you
know so what you want to talk
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(14:41):
about um prince prince well there is a
print article that's should we find it
kind of why I said
it
um
okay what year is this one uh this is
1992 moving to92
in a room
(15:01):
a you know last time we talked about um
Prince working with Kate Bush and
recording with
her yes um I was listening to Lenny
Henry's a biography and he said Kate
Bush called her
up he said Kate Bush called him up and
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said you want to be on my album and he
was like yeah of course I do to Prince
no to Lenny Henry
okay so I don't know I don't know why
she rang him but can you sing he sings a
bit I mean when he does his stand-up
shows he's got like comedy characters
where he does like I've never heard him
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sing he's got a Blues he's got a blue
singer and he's got like a soul singer
called theopolis P wilderbeast who's
like
a you know he's like a sort of Barry
White kind of you know slow jams he's
everything's like for the ladies you
know s Lu
Andros but I I mean I guess Kate Bush
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must have been a fan so she rang him
saying do you want to come and be on my
album and he was like yeah obviously he
went around and he said he had a lovely
day with her and like you know just
smoking [ __ ] and drinking tea and she
played him the track and he was like oh
this doesn't sound like your stuff and
he was like oh the guitar sounds sounds
a bit like Prince and then he noticed
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some of the backin vocals he said that
really sounds like like Prince and she
was like oh yeah it is him so Prince had
recorded some stuff and sent it to her
to be on one of her tracks and like
Lenny Henry who's obviously a massive
Prince fan is like trying to sort of
live up to you know the stuff that's on
the back in track right but uh I forget
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the name of the song it's called why do
you love me or why don't you love me did
he sing on it yeah yeah and he sang on
it
yeah weird that mean check it
out so it's on a Kate Bush ALB I think
it's on the red
shoes K
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Bush why should I love you it's called
okay um just play a bit of it
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L yeah I
think I can kind of hear that a
bit it doesn't sound like Kate Bush does
it well she's not singing yet no but
like the music it you wouldn't hear this
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and
think no
stay like this yeah it stays like this
yeah I think
so do she sing on
it that sounds like Prince that's prin
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that's obviously
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Prince yeah that's obviously
Prince
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that's so it's a quince song with weird
Lenny Henry bits at the
beginning did she sing on
it well I jumped to the middle
so I imagine she's on there somewhere
there oh she's there she's there with
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him
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though right so it's a PR
song
Right nice so there you go that's I mean
that surprised me
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anyway um
okay so the the uh Prince article is
called Optimum
shaboy uh the prince World Tour hits
Britain this month we sent Phil Su Cliff
to preview the shows from Australia and
be warned he's using the term funky
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bedum says right um so yeah I I read
this article and basically he doesn't
get an interview but he speaks to the
band because obviously Prince has got
better things to do than talk to cube
magazine
um quote I didn't really notice Prince
till he walked through the schoolyard
one day wearing just an open trench coat
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and a pair of Underpants says Damon
Dixon of the new Power generation's
dazzling dance team we just looked and
said what the hell is that you see he's
been Prince a long time observes drummer
Michael be vast and vibrant with
hilarity so he sort of talk about his
background really um musically there
didn't seem to be anything special about
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growing up in Minneapolis says Tony this
is the guy who does all raps Tony Tony
Tony
M Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony
M
um I think he's the guy on Jug Head who
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goes you know be be yeah just slaps that
guy at the end who's going I can make
you a star do you remember that bit um
there's nothing special about growing up
in Minneapolis one thing though it's
real cold serious snow so we would be
indoors all through the winter
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practicing a lot sharing whatever
equipment we had then in the summer all
the bands were battling each other for
the same gigs it was very
competitive um Prince it cost a lot to
heat paisy Park then in that case
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because paisy Park is massive and the
bit you always see if you Google it is
like the hallway where there's all the
clouds
painted um sure you're familiar if it's
it's like a big entrance way but there's
all it's like his suit in raspber breay
and
uh yeah it must have been either
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freezing or incredibly expensive to eat
but it was then yeah and it wasn't like
it is now where everything's too
expensive to keep warm
but um given that it was cuz they keep
they talk about that a lot people
mention that a lot how cold it is there
cuz he said that's why he liked being in
Minneapolis cuz it's too cold so it
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keeps people out right and that's why he
likes being
there that's why he dances so much to
keep warm yes sir uh princess in us
doing some dancing around rehearsing and
told us he'd like us to do something
Damon recalls this was 9:00 in the
evening and he said he'd liked to see
routines for seven of his songs by 7 the
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following morning it was very unusual
says Tony we went to my apartment moved
all the furniture out of the way and my
ma let us work through till breakfast
and we did it they filmed us for a video
and it all ended up on The Cutting Room
floor um one that's what you should
expect I think when you're working with
Prince I
imagine one facet of band Pride's Fierce
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commitment to bracing uncertainties of
an all live show Strictly no Memorex man
there's too many fakers out there says
Michael so I mean that's the Mantra
isn't it my microphone is
on you need to maybe add on to your
playlist uh Prince's know Shady moments
or whatever cuz there loads of those
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yeah um a man like Prince you've got to
like him for even the slightest hint of
not taking himself 100% seriously it
makes the sheer look look at me flash
even better this is into Daddy pop now I
mean he's he's describing the show
basically cuz he can't get an interview
the funk is crunching non-stop 18 people
on stage including the horn section and
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Prince is showing off his James Brown
Mike stand pyate Technics bouncing off
his chest dropping into splits and then
flipping it off his thigh there's barely
a second to spare a glance for Glam
dancers Diamond and Pearl simultaneously
gyrating in furry night
attire do you remember that diamond and
one of them is Miss calendar from
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Buffy
no yeah the so I don't remember Miss C's
face uh well that's
her oh right it really blur I mean yeah
she's the one in the back who's a bit
blurry but she's uh Miss Miss
yeah she was in the early series of
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Buffy and she went out with Giles and
got killed by a demon I think remember
Giles having a girlfriend yeah
and she'd cavorted with Prince a decade
earlier
wow she should look old enough to have
done that a decade earlier she it's no
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it's not a decade this this was 92 when
Buffy was like 96 97 I think 97 to 2003
right right okay and I think this might
have been the first tour that my was on
cuz they mention Mighty the ballerina
does a liquid limed romance
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dance cuz I think he had Diamond and
Pearl and then he was sort of phasing
them out cuz he wanted her to be like
his main Angel killed this woman oh yeah
yeah destroyed her computer and
printer [ __ ] petty [ __ ] what a
bastard I mean in those times that was a
good
(25:26):
4,000 in Tech
a computer and a printer 4,000 at the
least and snapped her neck killing her
but I mean it starts off with destroyed
her computer and printer and snapped her
neck this is The Buffy fandom do Wiki so
her computer first then a printer then a
neck that's the order of I don't know
(25:46):
whether importance
or
um where what you know when it actually
happened I don't know Angel left Jenny's
dead body in childes's bed
with a trail of romantic symbols leading
to the scene oh yeah I remember that
Jesus Christ yeah don't remember that
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that's horrific when Angel went
evil she probably had some files she
probably had some like here's how you
kill but why destroy the I mean I know
we all know night now that printers do
actually have a memory chip and you
can't just unplug a print and think that
it doesn't have stuff on that you've
printed it does it keeps a memory of
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that but you're telling me the angel
knew that a printer attached to the
computer would have known that I didn't
know that back in 97 but if I went evil
and I'd ever used a printer I would
definitely have smashed a printer that's
true yeah CU you wouldn't trust it would
you well just they're annoying because
they don't they don't work half the time
you want to know what the saddest
(26:47):
episode of Buffy was uh the body your
guess
yeah yeah the body yeah
harrowing uh
no I think the saddest one is I mean I
don't want to say because if people
haven't watched it and you know because
we still Haven watch loss so it's not
impossible I don't think people are
(27:08):
saving Buffy to watch are they well all
right when one when Buffy sacrifices
herself oh yeah I think that's a saddest
cuz Spike cries oh yeah
yeah it's like that's really sad it's
all on Disney plus now we should watch
we should watch it again
(27:29):
quite the
uh is the pause for effect I'm trying
I'm trying to think of a good way to say
it it was it was very much um the show
of the moment wasn't it it was it was
like everyone was watching it back then
um yeah in the late 90s I'm sure I've
(27:49):
mentioned about how much the VHS has
cost I don't think you have on here have
I not no so I bought uh the series that
was referring to because that was when
Spike was in it and he was nice he
wasn't a you know that [ __ ] hanging
out with juill and
um he he was more you know friendly and
(28:11):
it night just night he was a good better
character um and so I bought it was the
series was split into two sets of three
vhs's in each set of three vhs's was
£35 so I spent
£70 on one series of Buffy on VHS and at
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that time that was a horrific amount of
money to spend but that's how desperate
I was to watch those episodes a lot and
I've never quite got over spending 70s
on a
VHS season was that season
five well I was thinking my head six or
maybe five something like that um well
(28:52):
four was the
one70 where it was that paramilitary
organization they went to college and it
was the the initiative or something they
were making that sort of Frankenstein
man that was season 4 right and then
season five was
glory and then season six I'm really
(29:14):
struggling to remember Glory was part of
it wasn't it because she's the one
who caught a big
downfall yeah and was a dawn in it by
Point yeah cuz Glory was the birth of
dawn wasn't it right right
right I mean I I think I've got all all
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of them on DVD subsequently bought them
on DVD but they never cost that much
they never cost 75 quid for a season it
was like 35 or 40 or I but I don't know
why they split a season up into three
into two separate lots of three vhs's
because there be so many tapes wouldn't
it no that's true you'd have a lot of
(29:56):
tapes don't know where they are now you
I didn't even keep the boxes you must
have thrown them out must have them
because they're not here are they no and
they've not been in an old house
no no a waste no it wasn't a waste I
watch I watched them a lot yeah it was
it was it was of its time definitely
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definitely wasn't I mean it was it's
like spending 10,000 do
it price comparison from so when was
season six of Buffy um good question so
well we'll pretend it's season 6 Buffy
season
6 uh so that was
2002 which
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was 22 years ago two
so so 7 inflation calculator in
2002 okay 9
million uh 2002
(31:00):
sorry so 70
70 uh 70 pound so in March to1
12498
[ __ ] it's
quite in 2002 I was at Uni I didn't have
a job that's a lot of money to spend on
one series of a TV show it has to be
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said not the best
series it was just that I think it was
just that episode and just needed to
rewatch that obsessively we can imagine
such a thing now you were obsess you had
a bit of a spike fixation didn't you
yeah hyper fixation yeah it's gone now
it's generally vampires isn't it so you
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had Spike you had Billy worth
yeah I mean there any other vampires you
like Gary Oldman
no no I don't think so Christopher Lee
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no but they have to come out longer
Justa point when you're
(32:05):
like when you're always ready to accept
them don't
they full hyper fixation homeboy from
being human who's being human um he he
went on to play the sexy dwarf in The
Hobbit oh aen something no but yes if
he's a sexy
dwarfen him yeah as a sexy dwarfen h but
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he played a sexy vampire in Being
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Human I didn't know that not interested
when he's like that in the wildes and
he's all he's keep bushing it there what
is he uh I think that's Paul is he 40 is
only 40 I that's what he says
here looking
(32:48):
hell doing all right in he he's the new
po dark he's po dark yeah yeah in 2015
that's nearly 10 years
ago
um I'll have to watch be here I've never
watched it so uh right it was that was
an early
2000s don't remember he was a vampire
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and
um there was a guy who was a werewolf
and there was a girl who was a ghost and
the Werewolf was the guy who was in
American Horror
Story
NYC the English guy well he's probably
Irish or Scottish or something
oh who who are you talking about Russell
(33:31):
toy Russell toy was the
werewolf right I don't know if you ever
saw him turn into a werewolf I mean you
must have done but uh there you go n
who's your sexiest horror characters let
us know is it Peach fuz learning all
sorts
(33:52):
today
okay what's s to I remembered his name
yeah done press right
there he was good in that Aman story
yeah like he was an [ __ ] and he
didn't
deserve you sort of feeling
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compassionate towards him but you ended
up feeling compassionate towards him so
you
know good uh writing skills by the AHS
cast or
writers yeah the cast don't write it no
or maybe they do if you let if you know
let us
know uh so there's a big old article
(34:34):
about YouTube because it's Q so they
have to have an article about Q um and I
thought about you too and I thought yeah
you just said an article about
Q it's an article about YouTu because
it's Q so they have to have an article
about YouTu but you said Q then I I
probably did yeah wait listen to it back
(34:56):
just correct because it didn't make
sense so I thought I thought this was
really opposite like the Abba thing like
because this is the point it was
after uh Joshua tree so they stopped
being all Earnest and serious and in
black and white all the time and they
went all sort of postmodern and ironic
(35:16):
with the Acton baby
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album and they had this big show that
was all sort of like multimedia and
loads of video stuff and like it was it
was all sort of oh isn't the future
weird but that's sort of what they're
doing now with their they're doing that
Las Vegas show in that Dome aren't they
and it's it seems to be I mean obviously
(35:38):
we have not seen it because we've not
been to Las Vegas but it seems similar
in it's it's doing a sort of similar
thing but like looking at this article
and the photos they said oh yeah they
got a massive video wall and look at
their massive video
wall it's [ __ ] tiny it's just like
about 12 TV
(35:59):
screens oh my God know it's like the
biggest band in the
world but it it in these pictures it
looks really small it does look very
small but um this is when Bono started
wearing a cowo a gold Cowboy the sphere
though there are seats where you can't
see the whole
sphere well that's mad why would what's
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the point of having spere if you look at
reals cuz people have made them when
they've turned up realizing that theyve
bought seats where you can't actually
see the full um like IMAX view I guess
is sort of what it's similar to um
because of the like balcony overhead
right so it's like they've got a big
balcony and if they're like oh back they
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they can't see it and they ask people on
these wheels well why are we paying the
same price and they're like tough [ __ ]
basically oh they don't
do not cheaper so these people turned up
I mean I'm only going by what people
have done reals on but I don't know why
they' lie I mean as I say that loud I
realize of course we know why people
(37:07):
would lie because it get some attention
on social media but they've turned up
not knowing that it's rest restrictive
viewing I mean it's possible it says
somewhere restrictive viewing yeah but I
think if you were going to book tickets
to see You2 at the sphere it wouldn't be
in your mind to look for something that
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was saying restrictive viewing I
wouldn't be looking for that I'd
assume you're getting the experience so
if you if they missed it I can
understand why they would miss it
because you wouldn't be looking for it
whereas people who go to theaters now
you look for it because you know that
there might be you know you might be
sitting behind a pole and [ __ ] but the
sphere is something brand new to people
(37:51):
so I think um maybe they could have been
clearer on
their um thing possibly I've not tried
to book tickets so I don't know don't
know how much it costs I bet it's
expensive I imagine it's quite expensive
one of the things they talk about in
this article is about how crazy
expensive their shows are well I've seen
a um again a wheel um about it's Nirvana
(38:14):
talking about ticket prices and they
say what do you think about such and
such I think they mentioned Madonna and
maybe someone else I've seen that yeah
charging people this much and like
kiran's face is like what who charges
that much and he can't believe that
they're charging that much for tickets
(38:35):
um which
is yeah quite sweet um little insight
into Kirt
gain's um mind but like Nana were three
blos on stage or sometimes four and's
one woman on
stage yeah but Madonna had loads of
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dancers and she would have had like
multimedia stuff like she's putting on a
big theatrical show like like you two
are whereas Nana probably aren't
thinking about that they're just going
out no true they don't have costume
changes I mean I never saw Nana so uh no
shame can't be
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sure uh yeah someone wrote in to Q mail
(39:19):
in this issue complaining about um
getting tickets for you's Earl's Court
show because you had to
queue for a 12h hour wait and didn't
even get tickets at the end of it well
that makes sense because you'd have to
get out you queue at a ticket office
yeah and people
would it's it's the same now but you
(39:41):
just don't get through on the phone and
you don't get
home that makes
sense so um what are your feelings about
you
two um never listened to them a
lot
(40:02):
um did they sing home me th me kiss me
kill me yeah okay so that was the only
single I ever bought of theirs and that
was it right that's that is the best
thing they ever did my
opin I don't just I've nothing against
them but music
either set something off inside you
which makes you want to engage in it and
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think about it and obsess about it or it
doesn't and it just did for whatever
reason it's not it's not them it's
probably me but well it's down to your
mates as well if your mates aren't
listening to something it can pass you
by can't but some type of
music excites you some doesn't and it
just didn't spark any excitement aart
(40:45):
from that one song which I bought on
single so they you have got some of my
my money like £4.49 or something
probably but um and that song was
from um Batman Batman Forever which is
possibly the most in retrospect the most
(41:06):
disappointing uh experience I had in a
cinema because it looked like it was
going to be so good and that song made
it seem like it was going to be so good
it was so sort of exciting every
everything was neon it looked like the
comics you know and like two face was in
it and Jim Carrey was playing the
Riddler and never seen
it I mean you
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well you should
watch the first Batman the Batman 89 cuz
you like Michael Keaton don't you you've
never seen that do and he's got Prince
he's got Prince on the soundtrack but um
yeah Batman Forever that I mean that
song's [ __ ] ace and I I feel like
that song's good
because they just knocked it out when
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they're on tour as far as I can tell it
was right about this time they did actum
baby and then they did
Zopa and it was it was sort of round
about that time but it's really sort of
dramatic and I don't know I always I
always like that song I mean I like a
lot of this stuff but uh I don't think
they ever did anything else like that
(42:09):
ever
again um looking at the date 95 95 so
three years after this but I think that
tour just went on and on and on and it's
got the sort of iconography of that tour
in the video and they had they had like
cartoony stuff in it that looked like
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Batman the Animated Series just got very
excited about it h
yeah video is animated yeah never
watched a video it's also got bits of
the film in it and it made it look like
it was going to be so
good but
uh it is not um although if you do like
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Batman Forever uh let us know
um I just think Stadium rock is still in
its infancy Bono Muses accepting that
the mega gigs are an inescapable fact of
life at you's level yeah because I think
they were getting told off for you
know playing fewer gigs in you know
(43:15):
gigantic places and having to charge
loads they were told off for doing that
or for not doing it they well they like
people people were annoyed that their
ticket prices were so high and they were
only only playing you know in orades and
stuff they played leads didn't they did
they yeah at this period um don't know
(43:36):
round a park probably yeah
probably
okay let's let's move
on uh there's a review of um angel dust
by Faith No More so something that we
would normally talk about in karang
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um and they get four
stars okay good that's good yeah no it's
four out of five you know but uh yeah
the angel dust album uh did go and see
them on that tour and very exciting
remember who you talking about Faith No
More I forgot who you said about okay
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um yeah the big hit from that was
midlife crisis do you know that song no
I think they played it the night we go
to a few
times 20 years ago yeah yeah but back
when we were um you know Young Young
Bucks around
(44:40):
town so there's a review of an album by
Sly Dunbar right of Sly and Robbie Fame
and they mentioned the song Murder She
Wrote which you know later came out as
chakade Demus and pliers you know that
song and I remember seeing a news
article saying someone asked Angela
Lansbury about it um and she said she
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was very proud to have something to do
with reggae a bless
her um there's a review of grous Maximus
by the electric
boys um and it said she's into something
heavy appears to have borrowed the riff
from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and also not
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is Mary in The Mystery World which
appears to have been cloned from
Sergeant Pepper's DNA and I had listened
to this and I remember it from the time
and I will put that on the playlist but
uh yeah very sort of 60s psych but
very sort of mean like proper [ __ ] rock
you know it's all
about girls wiggling their asses as far
(45:47):
as I can tell
lovely um
see what else we've got in the review
section uh there's a review of um Napalm
death with their album Utopia
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banished and it tells us they officially
known as grind core so if you ever sort
of struggling
to I would thought thrash but I think
it's a bit more than it's bit sort of
more extreme than
thrash
um but it says in order to play Such
Preposterous tempos the band especially
(46:30):
drummer Danny harara are physically
unable to hit their instruments very
hard despite the music's breathless
quality there is a curious and
unintended lightness of touch it may
sound rush but turn it up as loud as you
want it never sounds heavy so that's
what Chuck kman was saying in Fargo Rock
City about like the difference between
(46:51):
heavy and hard yeah and like he was
saying the faster you go the less heavy
you become
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um right I don't remember that but yeah
it I can sort of see what they mean you
know like some of this music it does
just sound like a sort of flurry of
sound and you don't get that bottom
(47:14):
end okay um also talking about Kang
stuff there's a review of the Crimson
Idol by
wasp um it says
it owes just about everything to the
who's tommmy
thematically
um had Roger Roger doter spent the
(47:35):
entire recording session with his
private parts gripped firmly in the
slaving jaws of a rotweiler
um in short crap but flailing energetic
and Wildey crap that offers happy
reassurance that in some quarters Rock
hasn't grown
up thought that was a a nice uh way of
describing wasp
(47:57):
oh and there's a review of uh the
singles collection by
merilan um three stars that's not very
good if you're interested well you know
it's better than better than
shite um well yeah it's not good it's
average isn't it it's it is average but
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like they weren't a singles back they
all their singles but they were an
albums band you know all the singles are
like sort of edited down and they never
really sort of worked in the
charts um there's a review of a
compilation album called Gothic Rock
okay which is about Gothic Rock and at
(48:39):
the top here you see um dance
society and I when I lived in Sheffield
I knew someone who was the brother of
the guitarist in dance Society so that's
the that's the brush I've had with goth
it's pretty cool
um and it lists uh some of the Bands
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um so there's a band called NOS Fatu who
travel to gigs in a hearse and publish a
fanine called grimoire you can't get
much more goth than that can
you you probably could
but I mean you probably could but I mean
if you're going to start out in a goth B
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traveling around in a hearse is it's a
good first attempt one of one of the uh
better ways you can can do
it
um in re-releases um they've got hello
Dad I'm in jail by was not was and I
wanted to mention that because they
mention a song called shake your head
which features a duet by oie oorn and
(49:43):
Kim Bassinger do you remember that no
was sort of Kim Bassinger sort of doing
like a sexy voice and then Aussie sort
wailing on top of it
the boss's
daugh you can't make missiles out of mud
and you can't purify Bad
(50:06):
Blood you can't feed the
hungry you can't pretend to have
fun you can't be a robot
M and you can't
expect just to
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(50:39):
and I remember in um in O's
autobiography talks about it he recorded
it much earlier than that and when he
originally recorded it was with Madonna
but in the meantime Madonna become
became more much more sort of popular
and successful and she blocked the
release so she didn't she didn't want
that release so they just redid it with
(50:59):
Kim passenger
right never knew that well we will put
that on the
playlist um and that's pretty
much everything I wanted to talk about I
mean there's a ton of other stuff you've
got a cat trying to get past you yeah
there is a I mean she's not she's not
(51:20):
very vocal you're in the way of her
trying to
see she just wants to get
there she wants to be there yeah where
exactly where you
were there you go see okay so our um our
cat problems uh have sorted themselves
out y um is there anything else you want
(51:42):
to leave our listeners with this this
week uh no don't think so no um okay
so you've done your deep Cuts you
haven't got any other deep Cuts so we
didn't talk about no okay all right well
we'll leave you we're loving our hearts
(52:03):
that's nice um yeah obviously get in
touch if you've got any comments or uh
you know maybe criticism maybe keep that
to yourself I'd rather not hear any
criticism yeah I mean I'm I always want
feedback but I don't want any negative
feedback so you can't really expect one
without the other but um yeah if you're
(52:24):
still listening thanks
don't really know why you would be but
uh you we appreciate it we do uh follow
us on the
socials and we will see you stay metal
stay metal we'll see you when we see you
bye
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