What happens when you take a 48-day global tour to meet the world’s most radical thinkers in finance and systems change? In this special live episode, Kirstin Hunter, CEO of Birchal, sits down with Maslow CEO Kane Jackson to unpack the frontline insights from his whirlwind global research trip—spanning the U.S., U.K., Canada, Barbados, and beyond.
From sharing meals with systems thinkers to witnessing the cultural disconnects that stop capital from flowing where it’s needed, Kane reflects on what it really takes to fund and build a survivable future.
You’ll hear:
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Why most "impact capital" avoids funding systemic change
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How the finance system became extractive by design—and how Maslow plans to flip it
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What 180 systems leaders said at the Systemic Investing Summit in London
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The difference between talking systems change and actually doing it
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Why philanthropic foundations may be perpetuating the very problems they aim to solve
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What compost, Guernsey, and collective ownership have in common
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The emotional toll of facing collapse—and how people in this space still find hope
This is not a conversation about tweaks. It’s a call to rebuild finance as infrastructure for life—not extraction.
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