CL Talk

CL Talk

CL Talk is the official podcast of Canadian Lawyer magazine. It will hear from leaders in the legal profession in Canada and beyond. Our editorial team interviews legal leaders about topical issues affecting lawyers from coast to coast.

Episodes

Ontario’s civil justice overhaul: Morawetz and Downey on rewriting the system from the ground up

June 10, 2025 • 25 mins
Ontario’s profession is “stuck” in the civil area Chief Justice Geoffrey Morawetz said on this episode of CL Talk, Canadian Lawyer’s podcast. He joined Attorney General Doug Downey to discuss why now is the moment for a sweeping rewrite of the province’s civil rules, how they hope to cut timelines in half, and what lawyers across the province should expect as the system shifts from traditional discovery to an upfront evidence model...
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Adam Goldenberg balances civil liberties advocacy and corporate law at McCarthy Tétrault

April 22, 2025 • 19 mins
Adam Goldenberg is a partner at McCarthy Tétrault and a leading civil liberties litigator. He is also the host of the firm’s Appealing Briefs podcast. Last year, Adam was recognized as one of the Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers by Canadian Lawyer magazine. Goldenberg spoke to the CL Talk podcast about the legal battles he's leading in defence of 2SLGBTQI+ rights, the origins of his podcast Appealing Briefs, and how he balances hig...
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A justice system for everyone: BC Chief Justice Leonard Marchand’s vision for the courts

April 15, 2025 • 27 mins
Leonard Marchand was appointed Chief Justice of British Columbia in 2023 and is the first Indigenous person appointed to this role, being a member of the Okanagan Indian Band. Before joining the Court of Appeal in 2019, he practised civil litigation for nearly two decades and served as a judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia. Chief Justice Marchand spoke to the CL podcast about his path to the bench, the challenges of judi...
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The GC Collective: Paula Pepin builds strategic peer network for legal executives

April 9, 2025 • 16 mins
As in-house legal departments take on a more strategic role in shaping the direction of Canadian business, Paula Pepin is working to redefine what it means to lead from the general counsel’s chair. A former GC turned executive coach, Pepin is the founder of The GC Collective – an organization that’s helping legal leaders across the country evolve from legal advisors to influential business partners. In this episode of CL Talk, Cana...
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At McCarthy Tétrault, Shevaun McGrath leads on private equity and gender equity

April 8, 2025 • 17 mins
Shevaun McGrath is one of Canada’s leading private equity lawyers and a senior leader at McCarthy Tétrault. Last year, she was recognized as one of the 2024's Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers for her work advising on major transactions and advancing gender equity in the legal profession. Nominations are now open for 2025: https://www.canadianlawyermag.com/news/general/top-25-most-influential-lawyers-2025-entries-now-open/391867
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How Devin Persaud led the South Asian Bar Association during the legal profession’s diversity shift

March 24, 2025 • 20 mins
Devin Persaud is a partner at Miller Thomson. Last year, he was recognized as one of the Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers for his work with the South Asian Bar Association of Toronto. He spoke to the CL Talk podcast about leading SABA and the importance of continuing to fight for diversity and inclusion in the legal profession. Nomination information for the 2025 Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers can be found here: https://www.canadia...
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Two former GCs on how general counsel can shed the ‘Department of No’ label

March 3, 2025 • 27 mins
Bindu Cudjoe is the strategic advisor of Bindustries Consulting and a former executive and chief legal officer in the financial services industry, including Laurentian Bank and BMO as well as a former law firm partner. Judith McKay is the principal and strategic advisor of JEM3 Consulting, a former chief client and innovation officer at McCarthy Tetrault, and a former global general counsel for a Fortune 500 company. They spoke to ...
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From tech laggards to leaders: Chris Stock at Clio on lawyers’ rapid adoption of AI

February 24, 2025 • 20 mins
Clio’s 2024 legal trends report highlighted significant growth in artificial intelligence usage in the legal profession. Chris Stock, VP of legal content and migrations at Clio, spoke to the CL Talk podcast about what is behind this rapid adoption and what it means for the role of lawyers. Stock highlighted AI's role in automating tasks, reducing costs, and addressing the legal talent gap and provided predictions about the longer-t...
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Jill Fraser on her first year at the helm of Aird & Berlis

February 18, 2025 • 22 mins
Last spring, Jill Fraser was appointed the managing partner of Aird & Berlis, a full-service law firm based in Toronto. She spoke to the CL Talk podcast about finalizing the firm's strategic plan, investing in people and technology, transitioning her practice and the firm’s plan to expand in Vancouver.
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Why Tali Green built Goodfact without artificial intelligence – until now

January 21, 2025 • 21 mins
Tali Green is the CEO of legal tech platform Goodfact, which builds case chronologies for litigators. She spoke to the CL Talk podcast about why she initially did not build her product with artificial intelligence but has recently integrated it. Green also spoke about the shift in the legal profession's acceptance of AI and plans for her product, including medical record optimization and expanding into global markets.
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Caroline Zayid on litigation, client service and leading at the Ontario office of McCarthy Tétrault

January 14, 2025 • 18 mins
Caroline Zayid is the regional managing partner for Ontario at McCarthy Tétrault. She spoke to the CL Talk podcast about her multifaceted role, the broader landscape of litigation in Canada, and her reflections on being a returning judge at the 2025 Canadian Law Awards. Nominations are open now for the Canadian Law Awards. The deadline to submit is January 31. Nominate at https://www.lawawards.ca.
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Benjamin Perrin on how the legal academy is adapting education to the challenges of generative AI

December 8, 2024 • 28 mins
Benjamin Perrin has always been critical of the justice system. Last year, we spoke to him about his book, which put the criminal justice system on trial and argued for a shift from a tough-on-crime to trauma-informed approach. More recently, he has shifted his focus to generative AI, examining the good and bad applications in the classroom and beyond. He spoke on the CL Talk podcast about the implications of this technology on his...
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Why CEO Kurt Schlachter stopped practising to accelerate Stringam Law’s strategic growth

November 12, 2024 • 19 mins
Western Canadian law firm Stringam Law has had a sustained period of expansion, transforming from a single location to an established network with offices across Alberta and Saskatchewan. With that growth came a strategic shift to a more corporate leadership approach, culminating in Kurt Schlachter's appointment as CEO in 2023. Unlike many law firm leaders who continue to practise law, Schlachter took on a full-time management role...
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Catherine Meade on leading ESG at the Ontario Lottery & Gaming Corporation

October 22, 2024 • 22 mins
Catherine Meade is the vice president, community, sustainability and social responsibility at Ontario Lottery & Gaming Corporation. For our CL Talk podcast, Meade discussed cultivating an ESG commitment at OLG and measuring success. She will appear on a panel examining that topic at Canadian Lawyer’s ESG summit on October 30 in Toronto. Visit this webpage for more information on the ESG Summit: https://www.esg-summit.ca/?utm_source...
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Michael Kelly on navigating ESG at OMERS in a changing sustainability landscape

October 15, 2024 • 21 mins
Michael Kelly is OMERS's chief legal and sustainability officer, leading the pensions fund’s approach to sustainable investing and ESG. For our CL Talk podcast, he discussed managing stakeholder and investor expectations in a changing sustainability landscape. Kelly will appear on a panel examining this topic at Canadian Lawyer’s ESG Summit on October 30 in Toronto. Visit this webpage for more information: https://www.esg-summit.ca...
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Poonam Puri on the role of in-house counsel in navigating ESG

October 8, 2024 • 23 mins
Poonam Puri is a corporate director and professor at Osgoode Hall Law School. She holds the York Research Chair in Corporate Governance, Investor Protection and Financial Markets. For our CL Talk podcast, Puri discussed the role of in-house counsel in navigating ESG in a high-stakes environment. She will deliver the opening address on this topic at Canadian Lawyer’s ESG summit on October 30 in Toronto. Click here for more informati...
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McCarthy Tétrault’s new CEO, Sunil Kapur, on his vision for the firm

October 1, 2024 • 24 mins
Sunil Kapur was recently appointed CEO of McCarthy Tétrault, effective January 1, 2025. Kapur will replace Dave Leonard, who has served as CEO since 2016. For our CL Talk podcast, he spoke to us about his journey from labour litigator to CEO, his vision for McCarthy Tétrault, and his focus on innovation, collaboration, and diversity.
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The new CBA president Lynne Vicars on reinforcing public trust in Canada's justice system

September 24, 2024 • 16 mins
Lynne Vicars recently began her year-long tenure as the president of the Canadian Bar Association. She is currently a deputy judge at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, Small Claims Court division in Toronto. For our CL Talk podcast, she spoke about her career journey, leadership at the Canadian Bar Association, and the pressing challenges facing the legal profession today, including public trust in justice and the role of tech...
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OPG’s Carlton Mathias: leading on sustainability and ESG in Ontario’s energy sector

September 17, 2024 • 20 mins
Carlton Mathias is the chief legal, ESG and governance officer at Ontario Power Generation. For our CL Talk podcast, he spoke about his role at OPG and trends in ESG. Mathias will chair the ESG Summit on October 30 in Toronto. Visit this link for more information on the ESG Summit: https://www.esg-summit.ca/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=editorial_article&utm_campaign=esgsc2024&utm_content=awareness&utm_term=asset01
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Thomas Isaac on navigating legal challenges in Indigenous-led projects

September 10, 2024 • 24 mins
Thomas Isaac is the co-chair of the business law group and chair of the Aboriginal law group at Cassels. His practice is based in Vancouver. For our CL Talk podcast, he spoke about the development of Indigenous-owned projects in Canada, a topic he has recently published a book on with his colleague Jeremy Barretto.
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