CL Talk

CL Talk

CL Talk is the official podcast of Canadian Lawyer magazine. It will hear from leaders in the legal profession in Canada and beyond. Our editorial team interviews legal leaders about topical issues affecting lawyers from coast to coast.

Episodes

Open dialogue, not policing, should guide DEI, Sandeep Tatla tells legal leaders

September 23, 2025 • 31 mins
In this episode, Sandeep Tatla speaks about why open dialogue and psychological safety are essential for meaningful progress in diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) within law firms. She explains why policing and cancel culture undermine DEI efforts, and shares practical strategies for building trust and fostering inclusion in legal workplaces. Drawing on her experience as a global DEI leader, Tatla highlights the importance of i...
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Fatherhood and law: Steven Ngo redefines leadership at Rivian

September 16, 2025 • 21 mins
On this episode, Steven Ngo, senior counsel at Rivian and co-founder of Beyond the A, joins us to discuss how fatherhood, legal innovation, and mental health advocacy have shaped his career and outlook. Ngo shares candid insights on breaking barriers in the legal profession, navigating complex regulatory challenges at Rivian, and why honest conversations—whether in a car or a boardroom—matter more than ever. Listen to more of Steve...
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Keyera’s Christy Elliott redefines general counsel’s business role at energy midstream firm

September 10, 2025 • 21 mins
Christy Elliott, Senior Vice President, Sustainability, External Affairs and General Counsel at Keyera, shares her insights on the evolving role of the general counsel and the intersection of legal leadership with business strategy in Canada’s energy sector. Elliott will be featured in a roundtable discussion at the Canadian Legal Summit on October 9 in Toronto, where she will join other leaders for a session entitled “Future GC pl...
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Lawson Lundell's chief operating officer Derrick Li champions a clear AI strategy

September 9, 2025 • 20 mins
Derrick Li, chief operating officer at Lawson Lundell, speaks about building a clear and actionable AI strategy for law firms. Drawing on his experience leading digital transformation, Li discusses aligning technology with client needs and explains how Lawson Lundell is navigating the challenges and opportunities of artificial intelligence. He offers insights on governance, change management, and the future of legal tech – essentia...
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Mark Longo on leading Osler's growth in technology law in Vancouver

September 2, 2025 • 20 mins
Mark Longo – managing partner of Osler’s Vancouver office and co-chair of the firm’s emerging and high-growth companies group – discusses the remarkable evolution of British Columbia’s technology sector. Longo shares insights on the rise of unicorn companies, the shifting legal landscape, and how Osler is adapting to meet the changing needs of tech clients in a fast-paced, increasingly global market.
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Stephanie Leung on shaping Enbridge’s legal strategy

August 26, 2025 • 24 mins
Stephanie Leung, senior legal counsel at Enbridge, shared her perspective on the evolving role of in-house counsel, the importance of Indigenous partnerships in the energy sector, and the operational and cultural innovations shaping legal teams today. Leung discussed how Enbridge’s approach to collaboration, diversity, and legal operations is redefining expectations for both in-house and external counsel. She also addressed the cha...
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Dr. Traci Cipriano urges burnout solutions for the legal profession

August 12, 2025 • 16 mins
Dr. Traci Cipriano, assistant clinical professor in the Department of Psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine and author of The Thriving Lawyer, discussed the urgent need to address burnout in the legal profession, the barriers to meaningful change, and the structural solutions required to support lawyer well-being. Cipriano explored why self-care alone is not enough, the critical role of leadership in driving cultural shifts, and pr...
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Lucas Kilravey calls for transparency and real change in law firm diversity

July 22, 2025 • 21 mins
Lucas Kilravey is an associate at Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP’s real estate practice in New York. He spoke about the business case for diversity in law, the persistent gaps in representation at major firms, and the practical steps needed to support and advance diverse legal talent. Kilravey discussed the impact of open communication and inclusive leadership on team performance, the shortcomings of traditional mentorship programs, an...
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From academia to the bench: Justice Sheilah Martin's path to the Supreme Court of Canada

July 8, 2025 • 29 mins
Justice Sheilah Martin has served on the Supreme Court of Canada since 2017, following appointments to the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench and the Alberta Court of Appeal. Trained in civil and common law, she built her career across academia, private practice and the judiciary, focusing on constitutional law, criminal justice and equality rights. In this episode, Justice Martin discusses the value of legal education, the evolving ro...
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Justice Minister Sean Fraser on Carney’s call, constitutional limits, and his plans for legal reform

July 1, 2025 • 22 mins
Bail reform, judicial appointments, and the balance between public safety and Charter rights are all on the table as Canada’s new justice minister takes office. Fraser talks to Canadian Lawyer about how a direct appeal from Prime Minister Mark Carney led him to return to politics after announcing his departure.
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Carole Piovesan of INQ Law on AI, privacy law and emerging legal frontiers

June 24, 2025 • 20 mins
Carole Piovesan, managing partner at INQ Law and a leading voice on AI governance and privacy, unpacks the legal profession’s response to the accelerating influence of artificial intelligence, the shifting regulatory landscape and the practical challenges of integrating emerging technologies into legal practice. She discusses the growing reliance on privacy law as a proxy for AI regulation, the evolving concept of responsible AI, a...
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Tracy Ross on how the RBC legal team executed Canada’s biggest bank acquisition over a weekend

June 18, 2025 • 19 mins
In the latest episode of CL Talk, Canadian Lawyer’s podcast, Tracy Ross, senior vice president and deputy general counsel at RBC, unpacked the legal complexities behind RBC’s landmark $13.5 billion acquisition of HSBC Bank Canada. Ross shared a behind-the-scenes look at how her team executed the most significant banking transaction in Canadian history – over a single long weekend – while keeping the rest of the bank’s legal operati...
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BC’s legal future: Attorney General Niki Sharma on technology, equity, and reform

June 17, 2025 • 20 mins
Transforming how justice is delivered – from courtroom operations to legal regulation – is central to Niki Sharma’s agenda as British Columbia’s attorney general and deputy premier. In a recent episode of CL Talk, Canadian Lawyer’s podcast, she outlined her priorities and the principles guiding her work.
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Ontario’s civil justice overhaul: Morawetz and Downey on rewriting the system from the ground up

June 10, 2025 • 25 mins
Ontario’s profession is “stuck” in the civil area Chief Justice Geoffrey Morawetz said on this episode of CL Talk, Canadian Lawyer’s podcast. He joined Attorney General Doug Downey to discuss why now is the moment for a sweeping rewrite of the province’s civil rules, how they hope to cut timelines in half, and what lawyers across the province should expect as the system shifts from traditional discovery to an upfront evidence model...
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Adam Goldenberg balances civil liberties advocacy and corporate law at McCarthy Tétrault

April 22, 2025 • 19 mins
Adam Goldenberg is a partner at McCarthy Tétrault and a leading civil liberties litigator. He is also the host of the firm’s Appealing Briefs podcast. Last year, Adam was recognized as one of the Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers by Canadian Lawyer magazine. Goldenberg spoke to the CL Talk podcast about the legal battles he's leading in defence of 2SLGBTQI+ rights, the origins of his podcast Appealing Briefs, and how he balances hig...
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A justice system for everyone: BC Chief Justice Leonard Marchand’s vision for the courts

April 15, 2025 • 27 mins
Leonard Marchand was appointed Chief Justice of British Columbia in 2023 and is the first Indigenous person appointed to this role, being a member of the Okanagan Indian Band. Before joining the Court of Appeal in 2019, he practised civil litigation for nearly two decades and served as a judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia. Chief Justice Marchand spoke to the CL podcast about his path to the bench, the challenges of judi...
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The GC Collective: Paula Pepin builds strategic peer network for legal executives

April 9, 2025 • 16 mins
As in-house legal departments take on a more strategic role in shaping the direction of Canadian business, Paula Pepin is working to redefine what it means to lead from the general counsel’s chair. A former GC turned executive coach, Pepin is the founder of The GC Collective – an organization that’s helping legal leaders across the country evolve from legal advisors to influential business partners. In this episode of CL Talk, Cana...
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At McCarthy Tétrault, Shevaun McGrath leads on private equity and gender equity

April 8, 2025 • 17 mins
Shevaun McGrath is one of Canada’s leading private equity lawyers and a senior leader at McCarthy Tétrault. Last year, she was recognized as one of the 2024's Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers for her work advising on major transactions and advancing gender equity in the legal profession. Nominations are now open for 2025: https://www.canadianlawyermag.com/news/general/top-25-most-influential-lawyers-2025-entries-now-open/391867
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How Devin Persaud led the South Asian Bar Association during the legal profession’s diversity shift

March 24, 2025 • 20 mins
Devin Persaud is a partner at Miller Thomson. Last year, he was recognized as one of the Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers for his work with the South Asian Bar Association of Toronto. He spoke to the CL Talk podcast about leading SABA and the importance of continuing to fight for diversity and inclusion in the legal profession. Nomination information for the 2025 Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers can be found here: https://www.canadia...
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Two former GCs on how general counsel can shed the ‘Department of No’ label

March 3, 2025 • 27 mins
Bindu Cudjoe is the strategic advisor of Bindustries Consulting and a former executive and chief legal officer in the financial services industry, including Laurentian Bank and BMO as well as a former law firm partner. Judith McKay is the principal and strategic advisor of JEM3 Consulting, a former chief client and innovation officer at McCarthy Tetrault, and a former global general counsel for a Fortune 500 company. They spoke to ...
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