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March 20, 2024 38 mins

Danielle Krage interviews Joanna Penn. Joanna is an award-nominated New York Times and USA Today bestselling author with more than 40 books across multiple genres – non-fiction and fiction (under J.F.Penn). Joanna is also a podcaster, international speaker, and award-winning creative entrepreneur. This conversation dives into Joanna’s recent book, ‘Writing the Shadow: Turn Your Inner Darkness into Words’.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:38 Understanding the Shadow

05:11 Embracing Your Weirdness

07:52 Pushing Boundaries in Writing

09:26 Exploring Family and Relationships

11:17 The Shadow in Relationships and Writing

15:09 Continuing Journey of Integration

19:24 Percolating the Shadow into Writing

21:27 Exploring the Shadow in Characters

23:26 The Shadow in Professional Lives

26:11 Tackling Fear and Judgment

27:07 Unpublished Work and Building an Author Platform

29:10 Using Email Lists for Fiction

31:49 Showing Elements of Yourself as a Creator

33:51 Examples of Memorable Characters and Their Shadows

38:12 Where to Find More About Joanna's Work

 

You can find Joanna’s work here:

https://www.thecreativepenn.com/the-creative-penn-podcast-for-authors

https://www.youtube.com/@thecreativepenn

https://jfpenn.com

https://www.thecreativepenn.com/writing-the-shadow

 

You can find the transcript at:

https://comedymasterclass.com

 

And Danielle’s socials here:

https://twitter.com/daniellekrage

https://www.instagram.com/dekrage

https://bsky.app/profile/daniellekrage.bsky.social

 

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