From Haunted Houses to Hollywood: The Spooky Adventures of Sophia Temperilli

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Hello, my spooky friends. Welcome to another episode of
Terland Frights, the spooky, creepy and
mysterious paranormal podcast that covers
everything in the Midwest and beyond.
And oh my goodness, I
have a legend on today. And
I really do. I'm glad she looked at my little
podcast and said, I'll give him some love. I'll throw some

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love atam. and I appreciate that I have
Sophia, how you pronounce your last name?
Temporarii.

>> Sophia Temporarii (00:59):
Yeah, temporarily. We may be mispronouncedcing it, but that's what
we go with.

>> John (01:02):
Okay.

If an Italian person cracks you and I don't know what
to tell you, but, that's what we say.

>> John (01:09):
So she not only is a
paranormal investigator and she's on sites like
ghosthunting.com and liveparanormal.comt she
is also the host of her own
podcast, the Ghost Host. So
welcome Sofia.

Well, thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be on
and I appreciate you, you know, reaching out to me and
having me on. It's a lot of fun. Sorry I
can't talk today. it's a lot of fun being on.
My guest today was, Spanish speaking. So I guess that just like, you
know, linguistics one a little wired there.

>> John (01:48):
But u on the otherish,
tacos, burritos.

about, that's about mine. I am
Mexican, but my grandma didn't teach any of us. It was her own
secret language, so it's still secret to me.

>> John (02:01):
By the way, they have some
great paranormal cryptids,
stories, ghosts. Right? I mean it's
a great culture. It's a great culture.

I love it. I'm super happy I'm in it. Not only because of
the food. I think my grandma's great though, you know,
Big, big fan of the Mexicans. Very glad I am one.
But I don't speak Spanish, so you know.
Yeah, that's great. S great trai. I just sit
there, nod.

>> John (02:27):
Yeah, you just kind of go, yeah.

And then I just look at my grandma and hope she's not saying anything that I, don't
want people to know. I'm just like ye.

>> John (02:33):
So let's start out with the first hard hitting
Question. The chupaabra, which is
a cryptid, Is that Mexican or is that
Spanish?

I believe it's Mexican. my knowledge of that is according
to Scooby Doo and the monster Mexico.
So I would just go with that.

>> John (02:50):
Let's go with that.

Love a good Scooby do. Very knowledgeable. Learned
aboutatle the Aztecs. A lot of
fun. I learned not through school, through
Scooby Doo, but who's a better teacher?

>> John (03:01):
So, Sophie, did you start out.
Let's be honest. You started out with Scooby Doo,
but what else gave you the love of the
paranormal? Becausee you've been in it a long time
and be something that keeps you motivated
and excited to continue, down your
paranormal path?

Well, I always loved weird stuff, so I think that
really kind of started the interest.
Currently, it's trauma. I'm
traumatized from living into a haunted house. And so it's like, you know
what? Even if I left the field tomorrow, I'm still gonna have that
trauma. So it's like, why not stick with it? You know, just work with the
trauma.

>> John (03:37):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're in a haunted house right now?

No. Thank God. I moved. Very, very
happily moved. But I used to live in a haunted
house.

>> John (03:45):
Okay, I don't wanna bring up anything. I wanna bring up
bad memories and reopen old wounds.
But you gotta tell my audience. Did you
move because of why?

when I was younger, it was hard to talk about. I'm pretty used to it
now. He's the proverbial monkey on my
back, my lifelong tormentor, which is
awesome, but u. he's. I don't deal with him
anymore, so I think that's like a. Luckily, he
didn't move with me. We moved due to external
factors. But I was raised in the house from like the day I came
home from the hospital. My dad lived there when he was a

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child and he had to move out when he was around nine. But when
I was around nine years of age, I started feeling like I was
being watched everywhere. It was constant.
And I had already been in the paranormal year at this point. And
then one day I was in my parents
bedroom and I saw a man standing in their closet, which
I knew wasn't a real person. I knew it was a ghost. So I told

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my parents. And my mom didn't know what to think, but she didn't want
to tell me I was wrong. My dad just flat out told me it was
my imagination. And he wrote a book for psychic. So I Thought that was
really open minded and refreshing. Yeah,
yeah, just was something I kind of
dealt with. And I don't know the exact timeline because
I was so young. But shortly after

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that, when my cousin was down, her and my mom were
standing in her vanity area and she heard three knocks from the
inside of her closet door. And obviously no one's in
there. So they grabbed an EVP recorder and we caught
EVPs and the activity really picked up from there. But the
ghost was primarily focused on women. Men
didn't have any experiences with him.

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And so it, it was just a really hard
experience because I was essentially being stalked by the
ghost. which is really difficult I
think at any age. Especially when you're between the ages of
9 and 11.

>> John (05:32):
Right, rightah.

I was really happy when I moved out but just because, you know
you're in essentially like a prison for many
years and not feeling like, you know, you re home'where
you should feel safe and I didn't.

>> John (05:43):
Absolutely.

So for me I kind of still deal with like PTST
because of it and stuff because it's just hard when
you have someone standing over you
constantly and don't get a break.

>> John (05:54):
And you know, I'm glad you said that. I don't know if you have
this in your podcast or maybe you can on
your investigations, but one of the biggest things
is people like you have had that
as experiences and they keep it trapped.
Right. And they keep it inside
and they don't wanna bring it out. Have you ever had anyone

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just come up to you just out of the blue? Let's say, I don't know, you're at the
grocery store and maybe they heard your podcast or they've
seen you, you know, TV or whatever you want to
say. and it's gone. Hey, can I tell you
something? You know, when I was a little girl, this happened to me. Has that ever happened to
you?

I've had people do that. Like when I was in high school and
stuff, kids would come up to
me. I had a paranormal club for a short amount of time. But then I realized it's
very hard to wrangle 40 kids and take them on an
investigation. And so that didn't, that didn't work out very
well. But I've had things like that. I had someone listen
to a, radio show I had been on and talking
my haunted house and they had tweeted me and said

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that, you know, they were sorry I went through it but they were
glad to know that someone Else was experiencing something similar
because their son was going through that. I'm
like my friendly local neighborhood hermit.
So I luckily don't have like people coming up
to me at a grocery store because that would actually mean I would have to
go to a grocery store. U it's. So

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I'm just. For a friendly local hermit,
I'm a gamer. So, you know, my interests lie other
places.

>> John (07:18):
I love it. I love it. I love that me and
you're on the same page.
So was that your first experience
or did you have an experience before
that of a paranormal,
you know, experience?

Yeah. So I think living in a haunted house, I think I was
having experiences there from before I can even
remember because my mom and my grandma remember when I was
very little, like old enough to walk, not old enough to talk,
I would go and stand with my back against the door into the garage,
basically frozen. And my mom would have to come over and
reach for my hand and then I would move.
So I think I was having those experiences from

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before I can even remember. but my first, experience
that I had where I actually was cognizant
would have been when I did my very first investigation
on the RM's Queen Mary. and I was taking a
tour with Peter James, who hosted the tours
there. And, yeah, I saw a ghost.
Or at least what Peter felt was a ghost, when

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I told him what I had seen. And, I just, I don't
know, I guess I was a twisted 8 year old. And I was like, this is
awesome. So I was like, yeah, keep doing it.

>> John (08:23):
I love those stories. I've had other guests on. They
said I was the type of girl or boy
reading the ghost books in the
library and taking them home. And my
parents were kind of worried about me.

Like, okay, well, Lily, my parents are eccentric,
so.

>> John (08:41):
That'S great. and they would tell stories too, if they would
have a special friend in their room they would talk to and they wouldn't
think anything of it. I have not been that blessed to have
that, unfortunately. and it's funny to
me. I think you're very brave for what you
put up with. And people don't understand. It's.
It's not like a. You can see what's coming.

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So let's say God forbid someone physically
attacks you, a man or woman. Does a dog, it doesn't
matter, Right? That's there, you can see that. So you can
kind of like, okay, go to the police and
say, hey, so, blah, blah, blah, blah, right here
it's different. You can't go to the police and be like,
hey, this entity is
attacking me. You know, you don't have that option. But

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you do have a great paranormal, really
Communities.
I like to say all my guests here have always said
they love to help, like, any way they can help.
Do you consider, like, how you can
help, or do you kind of distance yourself? Like,
if you have people again write to you or
whatever? Did you ever do paranormal investigations where you're

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like, okay, this is what I can do to help, or.

I don't personallym. I'll connect them with a psychic
that I feel could help them. In my personal home
haunting, I did not receive
help. Really. u We had people come out in sage. It did
not remove the ghost. They blamed me
that it wasn't gone. They said I was the one doing it. Mind KN you,
I'm nine.

>> John (10:08):
Yeah.

And so I didn't really get that. I'm not saying
people can't help. I'm just saying in my experience, I did
not receive help. And I don't know if. If you can help in those
situations. M I had a girl from high school reach out,
one time, and she said that she was
experiencing a ghost, and she didn't know what to do. So I
talked to our psychic friend, and he said

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that the ghost was trying to distract her from things in
her life that she was worrying about. So it was a good spirit trying to help
her, like, pull her head away from those situations
and in that knowledge helped her. So I think
in those terms it can for multitude of reasons.
I don't personally do home hauntings. One, I just feel like
it's kind of too close for me.

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And two, I'm 26 and I've been
investigating since I was eight. But I feel like when you're doing home
hauntings, if you're really going in there to help, you, have to have a
certain set of life skills
or ways in which you can relate to
someone. I can't relate to a parent who's going through that with their
children. My parents could, but I can't. I could
relate to the kid, but I don't know that I have

(11:11):
the skills to help them in that. And, you know, you
have to help try and diagnose if someone's mentally
ill. like in my haunted house. Right. My
grandfather, my dad's adopted. He was a paranoid
schizophrenic. But I believe that the ghost in there
Was also preying on his mental illness. So you have
gray areas where it could be a haunted house and someone has a mental

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illness, something that can be debunked. And so I feel like there's so
many layers in such a gray area when you're dealing with
people's real lives and things that they can't just
walk away from that. I feel like at
least people who do that need to have a certain set of
life skills that me as a 26 year old, I do not have.

>> John (11:48):
I hear you. And you know, you, you don't know
from talking to all these paranormal investigators I've had
on the show and all these mediums, and you have your
guests, and spoken, to everybody's different and, you
know, they've been in situations. They have told me where the person's
like, there's a shadow in here. There, there's. There's a
ghost. It's attacking me. I know it's attacking me.

(12:09):
And these, you know, paranormal investigators are like, there's
nothing here. We're not finding anything. Or, it's a leaky
pipe. Yeah, it's your furnace
being weird. And they, you know, everybody. Let me
ask you this because all my paranormal investigators always say
the same thing to me. They wanted debunk it. They
don't go in wanting. Well,

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that's not necessarily true. But most of the time they wanted
debunk it. Seeing a ghost and getting
evidence, that's great. Love that. However, when
they do homes, they want to do where they debunk
it as well as other investigations. You kind of feel
that way too, Sophie, that would you just want to, like.
I kind of want to debunk it first and that doesn't work. Let's go to

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the next level.

Yeah, I definitely am. Even though I lived ha a house, I would say I'm
still like, largely skeptical. Like, I don't
believe everything everyone shows me at all.
I just like, I don't know, trust issues or something. And so
I, you know, when I do investigations, I
want to see what's causing it. Because the Internet's a
harsh place. And if I'm going to share something, I want to make sure

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that I go through all the options first
before someone's like, this is so obvious. And I'm
like, I'm sorry, I didn't think of it. So I try
and find every option, not only just because I want
actual evidence, but because I want it to be something
where, you know, people don't have to believe in the paranormal. They don't. That's
fine. that's not my job. To make people believe. But I want
it to be something where people at least

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can't find a fault in it, I would say
so. I think it's super important on investigations to
go over all the angles. You know, ask other people's opinions
and, and try and see if it is something that you can
explain immediately or if it's something that,
you know, maybe could be paranormal.

>> John (13:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Did you.
Have you ever been on an investigation or
talking to somebody that really
frightened you? Like, you went like, oh my God, like,
how did you get through this? And any,
Anything, you can tell me about that?

you mean, like, have I talked to other people that like, went.

>> John (14:07):
Whether you talked to another person and they told you a story
on your podcast or through an investigation where you
were truly scared, where you're like,
I'm scared. Like, you know, this is enough. I
gotta get out of here.

I mean, for me, living in a haunted house would be
that, in terms of other people's stories, I would
honestly say it's more like physical stuff. People have said
that scare me. Like, someone sat on our.
Told me on a show. They sat on a. Arrested like, needle at
a location I had, Keith a on. He
said that he thought he was stepping on a power cord. Who
stepp me on a bobcattail. So those stories make me

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more physically uncomfortable than, like, any of the paranormal
stories, because that
doesn't sound fun. I don't want to step on a
bobcat. I don't want to get. He didn't get attacked luckily,
but, like, I don't have a desire to do that. Maybe pet
the bobcat, but I'm not gonna do that either.

>> John (14:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's just. That's funny
because we get like two different things. So I've
spoken to. And I don't mean to come
across being sexist or anything like that, but what
I found out in the paranormal world is
women take the brunt of,
I don'know. Actions. So, for example,
talking to female investigators in a prison,

(15:22):
they've investigated a prison, They've gotten their hair
pulled, they've gotten pushed, and usually
the guy or guys with them,
typically nothing really happens to them. Do you.
Do you wonder why, like, why
do women get the brunt of, like, being an
asylum, being at a prison? other than

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men are jerks. I don't know what to say.

I mean, I would say that's pretty much what it comes down to. I
mean, the ghost of my house was a creep. He was only focused on
women. Soeah you just have different
personalities. I mean, I'm sure, like maybe
a man went to an all women's prison, they might get
that type of response as well. I don't
know. But I think it really just comes down to the type of

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location, the type of people that were held there and what they
would be most drawn to, which I guess is not a
man. So y. I mean you're going to prison, they
don't see women, so of course they're going to want to talk to a
woman more. if you're in a children's school, the children
are probably going to be more inclined to talk to a woman than a man.
Their school teachers were most likely a woman. Maybe

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someone reminds them of their mom. So I think it really just
comes down to not only when you're dealing with
creepy spirits, they're going to be more inclined to talk to a
woman, but also maybe for younger spirits
are more of a maternal energy. So I think it really just
comes down to that.

>> John (16:41):
Yeah. Do you feel you're sensitive?
Like sensitive to different things?

Okay, yeah.

>> John (16:47):
and.

Oh, go ahead. Sorry.

>> John (16:49):
Oh no, no, go ahead.

Yeah, I would definitely say I'm sensitive. I'm not psychic,
but I can definitely pick up on stuff. I'm more like a smoke
detector. Like it can tell you something's there and I'm not useful
beyond that at all. Not helpful really.
U. any ghosts? I've seen her like shadow figures, which is
like what kind of skillse set is that? You know, it's not
okay. It's not very helpful. It's just an indescriptive

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shadow and so I can tell like if a
ghost is like good or bad. But it, it's if a spirit
wants me to know what's there. I can't just walk into a
grocery store and pick stuff up. Which would like
earlier involve me walking into a grocery store. But yeah, I
mean it'I feel like I'm fortunate in that because you know, I talked
to so many psychics and them having that on and off switch

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is very hard for them. And after living in a haunted house,
I like being able to come home and not deal
with that. So I like having that
paranormal real life balance.

>> John (17:40):
Yeah. Did you ever. I've never lived in a haunted
house, but I've spoken to people who have and still
are. Ah. And this blows me away. This makes no
sense because I'd be like, I'm Audi
5000. I'm like, I'm gone. You know what? I'm saying
just day to day, like, you know what I mean? When you're in a
house, you went to school I imagine, right?
Yes, I did get up youd brush your teeth,

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you would eat breakfast or whatever you do and
youd always have that. Did you just ever just say
like Im not going back, Im not going
back home. You cant make me. Do you ever have a day like
that?

I mean there were many times I definitely wanted to move
out, because I just couldn't see the rest of
my life going like that. And I'm really happy I didn't grow
older in that house because he was so
attached to me and just very bad of a spirit
that I'm very happy I didn't have my more formative
years in that house.

>> John (18:32):
Right, right.

But I definitely was. I don't miss the
house at all. I was very happy for a
while there. I couldn't drive by it because it just
disturbed me too much. May ask you and
it's just one of those things where like if someone
offered me a billion dollars, like literally a billion dollars,
I will never step back in that house because

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yeah, I won't do it because it's not worth it to
me to go through that for the rest of my life. If he
saw me today and decided to attach himself to me, it's
just not worth it. And so for me, I am
very happy to be out of that house. People are like don't you want to go
back and know what happened there? Nope. I don't care. That's u.
no, no, I'm not trying to be cos. But like that's the new

(19:15):
owner'problem Like I can't put myself in that situation
again.

>> John (19:18):
Did you tell the owners it was haunted?

no, we, we didn't sell the house. So it
was. That was on someone else and so
that was We had no part of the sale in anything.
And where I lived there were a lot of like same sex couples.
So like if two men had moved into the house, they probably
would never have an experience, quite honestly. So it's.
It's not something where I can even say that the next people that moved
in would have had an experience.

>> John (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaking of an experience, we're talking about this
offline. I almost bought the Amityville
Horror House, this club.
So here's. Here's the funny story and I know
there, I get a lot of, I'm rightight now people, once they listen to
this episode, I roll and. Not again, John. But you
don't know that, so I will tell you. So

(20:03):
when it went up for sale, it was up for sale for like
$300,000. So it wasn't.
I could do. I'm not trying to brag, but I could any.

Like, I got this.

>> John (20:12):
I got this, right? So this is the hilarious part.
So Sophie, I call the real estate agent, and
I'm like, I'm coming out there, I'm visiting the
house, and she can tell, like, I'm overexited. I'm like a little kid on
Chris, you know, this is the greatest thing ever. And
she immediately goes, you're into the paranormal, aren't
you? She could just tell. And I'm like, how you.

(20:32):
How'd you know? She goes, nobody's that excited
over this house. And she's been selling in
the area for 30 years. She knew the DEF
fails. She knew that, and she knew the whole story.
In fact, she was. Her friend of
a friend was at the bar when Defe came in,
who shot. You know, the whole entire family came
in. And I think he said something to the fact, oh, my God, somebody

(20:55):
shot the family, or I killed the family or something like that. She
knows that. So she's tied into everything.
And the super funny thing, she goes to me, she goes, sweetie,
I'm gonna tell you right now, it's not haunted. That's
all bullshit. It's totally made up. And I'm
like, no. She's like, yes, I
really. And I'm like, oh, come on. And she's like, listen,

(21:15):
the fails were all on drugs. You know,
the list family who moved in there made it all
up. I knew them. I sold them the house. They knew
the whole thing, what was going in. It's totally made up.
Anyway, so we're talking, like, I'm coming down there anyway, you
know, so I go down there. Oh, my God, it
is so gorgeous. It's just this beautiful

(21:35):
old house, hardwood floor. She can go look it up.
It's s got a little bold house. And I'm just like, oh, my
God, this is the, How do we do this? And then I'm
like, okay, wait a minute. I had kids and
stuff, and, you know, younger kids at the time. Anyway,
so I'm talking to the owners and we're have.
I just went over there and talked to him, and they were just like,
nope, nothing, zip. And I'm like,

(21:58):
oh, come on, guys. And then I called the former
owners, and. And I'm like, anything? They're like, nope,
nothing. And then I called the real estate agent and
she's like I told you, I told you.
And and so we were talking
and throughout I've spoken to paranormal investigators
and they even and see what you think. Either they

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say there was something attached to the
children, the list children who were there and
then it just went away. But touring that
home and being in that home, nothing, zip.
Zero. I didn't feel anything weird. They showed me
the the gate, the housel so if you go down,
there is a storage area. It is supposed to be red

(22:38):
bricks. That's the gates to hell. I went in there,
stuck my head in there, didn't feel weird at all. They showed me
the area where the fly supposedly came in,
attacked the priests. So if you watch the ha amityvil
horror, go watch it. Nothing. So zero.
And I'm like man, this is go going toa
suck. Long story short, couldn't work
it out because it's an Amityville New York. And

(23:01):
the other thing was people go, they come to your
house like you look out your look out your
window and there'be some guy standing on your lawn taking
pictures. Also, owners have told me paranormal
investigators have tried to break into the house in order to get
stuffed. They have come to the house and offering money and,
and these former owners like it's real pain

(23:21):
in the ass when you're sitting there, it's three in the morning and you're getting
up to go to the bathroom or something and you look out and you see
some people taking pictures or taking videos on
their phone. And I was like, yeah, I'm not
putting my kids through that. Yeah, right.

You know, yeah, they're like the worst thing about living here is actually the
living.

>> John (23:39):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. I love that
quote. And it was now I think it's going for
a milal or something but.
You know, to me it's like. Well,
was really funny after this too the real estate and I
wanted to try to get her on the podcast, but she passed away last
year.

My God. I thought she said no.
Oh my God. That was not a good reaction
to the moment you said that. So I'm sorry for your loss. That's
awful.

>> John (24:05):
No, she she was like I was trying to get her
on and anyway passed away. But the biggest
thing about it was she told
me, she goes, John, if you want to haunted house, I
got ple plenty I could show you. She goes, you know,
and we never got to that level, but
it's. It's weird.
So you lived in a Haunted house that totally affected you.

(24:27):
That really affected to your soul,
basically. And then this is famous,
right? Everybody in the paranormal business,
whether you've been in a year or, like, you since you've
been eight, knows about it and knows there's
some type of, you know, curse or whatever,
and it's not true. But do you have any thoughts on

(24:48):
that? Do you think it. It was just haunted for a
little while and kind of like your house, like, the
spirits just didn't attach to other families or.
Or what do you think?

I think from what I've heard, they did make up the story.
So that's always a plausible
explanation. But since there was real tragedy
there, you know, I guess there's always a chance
that the spirits
just don't want to show themselves to a lot of people.
I mean, if I was dead, I'd probably be really annoyed with
people showing up to my house constantly. I

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don't like when people do that and they're alive. It's just,
you know, if they find the right person, maybe they would
show themselves. Like, I went to a, haunted
location recently. Very haunted. We caught tons of
stuff, right? I'm a sensitive. I didn't feel thing in the
house, which was really weird. Yeah, no, it was weird. I
was like, fine. I was, like, chilling. So, But we caught tons of

(25:40):
stuff. It was definitely haunted. So I think it just comes
down to the spirits themselves to. And if they want to present themselves or
not or, you know, there's nothing there. But I
would say it's one of those things where it's just like, time will
tell, I guess, because maybe that right person
will walk in and they'll want to show themselves, or maybe
there's just nothing there and they agree. Gone.

>> John (26:00):
I agree. Remember, these were people at one
time, right?

Yeah.

>> John (26:04):
And it's kind of like you and me. I'm kind of a recluse to. I'm kind of
a homebod. All right, come on
in. You know, they're trying to be mean or anything, but you
know what I'm saying? So, like, if I haunt
this house, I'll be like, okay, guys, time to
go.

I'll be like, stuff like, my God. No,
no, no, no, no. Not my room. Like,
it's awful. No. When you said the
realtor passed, I'm like, thinking. She was like, oh, I'm done with the, Amville
house. Like, no, I'm done. I sold it again. And then you said away,
and I was like, o early reaction. I
was, like, horrified. I was like when I clearew that up,

(26:41):
oh my God. I was like, oh. You were like she passed and then you
said away and I was like, oh, bad reaction, bad
timing.

>> John (26:47):
So I need to get your feeling on
some. This is the biggest topic I always bring up
and I get two different horns of view, points
of view. Excuse me, Orbs, I think they're
Nothing. I think 99, 9,
99% it's dust. What do you think about
orbs?

I think it's probably dust or a bug. But also I've
just been in here Since I was 8 and so
I mean I may not trust everything I see,
but I'm not going to tell someone that're wrong. If you feel like it's an
orb, I'm not gonna argue with you either because
I'm not the evidence police. Really? Because I can't,
I can't tell someone that their experiences are wrong

(27:25):
because, you know, someone might not believe my
experiences, which is understandable. So
I mean I don't personally believe in them, but I'm also not gonna
like go online and critique someone because it's just not my business.

>> John (27:36):
Yeah, yeah. I just don't like
when they, when people are like that's
blah, blah, blah blah. I saw it is whatever. I'm
like, okay. And then me being
stupid, I get out of there and I'll be like, I d.
It's reflection off the glass. It's like a
prism kind of thing. It's just like no, no, no, no,

(27:57):
no, no, no, you're wrong. And I get into this ridiculous s probably a
12 year old. It's probably on there. You know what I mean?

Well, you know, the way I see it too is
sometimes like if, if they feel it's like a past
relative or somethingay. I think it's fine if
people believe that because even if it's a bug, if
it makes them feel better or comforted, then you know, maybe
the bug is a sign from their relative. If it's something that
makes them feel more peaceful with a passing in their

(28:23):
life, then I, even if it's not
real paranormal evidence, I feel like the meaning it
has is more important than like
semantics with people. And so yeah, I mean I'm
not inclined to believe orbs, but if
it means something to someone, then who
knows? I don't know, maybe the dust was sent by someone. And I'm not
trying to be funny about that. Like I don't know, I don't know how

(28:45):
ghosts present themselves in the most exact way
So I just, I also see other
people's points of view and how it
could mean something more to them. yeah, and
I think that that's one of the most important things too, is
you remembering the topic. And if it is like someone being
like, this is an orb of my loved one and,

(29:06):
you know, it's clearly a moth. I saw a video like that. so that's what I'm
referencing. and I'm just like, you know, that made them
happy and their relative would be happy that
they're happy, thinking it was a sign. So, you know, go for it.

>> John (29:18):
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I think that's kind of debatable
about, I don't know, different
things because, yes, I've had people were. I knew it was my
dad because my dad, would he call my
Nick. I don't know. My nickname was Butterfly. He's call me Butterfly.
And then when he died, a butterfly landed on my,
you know, hand and like, o. Yeah, okay, that's

(29:39):
sweet. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

>> John (29:41):
But I don't like where people are like, you know, oh,
my God, this place is super hot and there's like
a hundred orbs. It is crazy, man.

It's a very dusty, abandoned building. And then I'm just like,
yeah, right.
because also people too, if they believe that they're like,
there's literally nothing you can to change that.
So I'm. Good work.

>> John (30:03):
Nothing you could do.

It'kind of stay my own plane there. So I feel like it's kind
of like a double edged sword where some people see it as a sign and,
and you know, want that and that's good for them. It's
helpful, I think, in their grief process. But then also
people trying to say that the ball of dust is
evidence. And I'm just like, you know what, that's someone
else's, banner to take up.

>> John (30:22):
So this is what I see. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think you have a room in your house full of
cursed dolls. Am I right?

No, no, I've never. I
would. I don't evens. I don't
have. I don't even have a spare room in my house.

>> John (30:39):
Come on. you do.

I have three dogs that I consider them
cursed. You know, their
chuahas, you, know. No, I've
never had dolls.

>> John (30:49):
No.

No, I don't like them.

>> John (30:52):
And why don't you like them?

Because they're creepy.

>> John (30:57):
Hello? Yes.

You know what? I'm not the person in a horror movie. That's gonna
hear something go, hello. I'm gonna leave.
So I like to think that I have self preservation
skills. And that's on my list of that.

>> John (31:11):
Thank you.

Where I think maybe you could have gotten that information from
is my mom's best friend, Debbie
Constantino, had a room full of dolls
in her home.

>> John (31:20):
Killing me. No, no, no, no. The reason I'm having fun with you,
obviously.

Where did you even hear that? I thought it was going crazy for a second.

>> John (31:27):
I. I just put it out there on the Internet. It must
be true.

Wikipedia.

>> John (31:32):
Wikipedia. I gotta change that. John's messing
with it again.
the reason I mentioned that is because,
I've interviewed nine out of.

Ten investigators have a room full of dolls in their house.

>> John (31:42):
I don't. What, what's wrong with these people? I don't
know these paranormal investigators. And she brought
them to show me on the show. Okay, I
am the biggest scaredy
wimpy chicken. You put a cursed out. Like
if you'say hey John, it isn't so bad. And you held
and tried to give it to me, I'd be like, nope. And I'd be like running and

(32:02):
you literally have to chase me. because I would not take it.
They freaked me out. And she was holding this curse style. And
I swear to God, Sophie, its eyes
open so you know, they close when you kind of move the
doll. I swear to got its eyes open and looked at me and,
and I said to her her name was Michelle. Said Michelle,
it eyes just open and looked at me. And she goes,
yeah, she does that. And I'm like, yah.

They love talking about things matter of factly too. It's like, o,
they're cool.

>> John (32:29):
Look at this. And then she brought another one. And then I'm like,
whoo. Who. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How many do you have? And she
goes, I have a room full of these. I collect them. I'm like,
oh God.

Well, my mom's best friend, before she passed away, Debbie
Constantino, she did have a room full of dolls. And I kid you
not, she loved taking EVP session with dolls, haunted
or not. She just like felt she could get EVPs. And she
watched the movie Annabelle and wanted to get rid of all of them.
After which I thought was like, didn't you love this? I don't
know. But no. Like, it's almost like someone's child.

(32:58):
I'm not gonna be the one to drop the haunted doll. I'm not gonna be the
one to drop your child. You hold that and
you responsible yours keeper.
I'm good with that. My cousin was like, you wa want to pick up my kid?
I'm like, no, I'm not gonna drop it.

>> John (33:12):
So one thing I'm going to do because I think this
is bulshit on this one. I'm calling
bullshit on this one. And I'm not trying to debunk all this
stuff but so the Warrens, Ed and Lorraine
Warren have Annabelle. Annabelle. If you've seen it, you can go
anywhere. A Google on the Internet it is a raggedy and an
Andy dow and it's curs and they keep it behind
a in a box, behind a glass.

(33:35):
Now explain this to me. Why would
you even keep it? Number one, if it is that
bad, right? You would destroy it. And number
two, you know, people are
morons and they're gonna grab it and
they're gonna do. And then if they fall and break
their legh it's the dol. Do you believe that? Do
you really believe there is a cursed dol with that much

(33:58):
power to do something?

I don't know. Like I said, I may not
have like strong feelings on certain
topics, because I don't have enough
information in that specific topic. So I don't like. I
feel like more people are more qualified to answer it. But you have
like Patrick the doll and stuff. There's like a lot of dolls with
that. And so I'm more
like, you know, I've heard ghosts and

(34:22):
legends and stuff like myths in legends.
And I was like, oh, that would be really cool to go look at.
A lot of them are really dark. Like one of them I saw was
like if you go to this one spot and see a
ship passing at a certain time night, someone in your family is s
gonna die. And it's like certain things I just don't
want answers to because I have self preservation.

(34:43):
So it's like I technically could have a more strong
thing on the hondted dolls but I feel like that would mean spending time with them.
And if they really are that bad, I don't
want to be the one at the br end of that. So
I'm not gonna say no and I'm not gonna say yes
because I don't have enough information to say no. And
I'm notnna say yes because I don't want to

(35:03):
figure it out to have that answer.

>> John (35:05):
Okay, so what you're saying is if I for
Christmas send you a cursed dol,
you're probably gonna send it back or would you keep it,

I would definitely send it back. I would make sure that I,
might. I don't know, mine. Send it to my
friende. He seems like he'a dol. I told
him that we went to a haunted placee. I was like, oh, the staples are really
haunted. You should go up there in the hayloft. And he's like, you'were gonna send me up there by
myself? And I'm like, no. Yes. That was the answer,
really? Because I thought there was a ladder, and I'm not climbing the
ladder. I have acrophobia. I don't

(35:36):
need to be on a ladder. Especially a haunted stap
ladder. There was no. There was no ladder.
But, he was like, you were gonna send me up there by myself? I'm like,
no. So I'd be like, you look like you want a
haunted doll. And, he'd probably be happy.
So I'd like to share. I like to share. Share the love. I would share it
with someone else. You know, like, double it. Pass it to the next person.

>> John (35:57):
Yeah. right. I don't know if it's still on ebay, but there used to be
a haunted laptop. some guy claims that
he had a satanic ritual over it, and
then he, like, buried it, and they did
obvious. Like, come on.
What? The laptop probably does not
work. And why would I want have haunted laptop? That. I'm trying
to get some work done, right? Like, I got to get this, podcast out

(36:19):
and. Damn it.

Well.
Well, here's a few things. One, computer virus.
That's always an initial thought. Two, say it is
haunted. Say it's a helpful ghost. You could get
double the work done, because while you're typing something,
they're typing something in the background. You could really just knock
a lot of work out.

>> John (36:38):
I like. I mean, case, you know what you're thinking?

I don't know. It could be helpful demon. I don't know that. But,
you know, I just like to. I like to go the benefit of
the doubt of haunted laptops, because I
don't want one. But I also am a
procrastinator, so I don't think I need double the speed
for the work because, you know, that would ruin my
methods. But other people
proficiency, you know, you forgot to send the email

(37:02):
to your boss. The ghost will do it for you. Lots of
it.

>> John (37:06):
I love it. There you go. Sophie's thinking outside the box.
I might get that now. I think I will.

It's great. It's very helpful. You know, it's. You
Know, streaming the ghosts, typing in the chat
for you so you don't have to pay attention. Really good work.
You get to see insights from the other side. You ask some
questions, they type you back. It's like you got mail or
something. But like with a ghost in your laptop.

>> John (37:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I love that. You know, I think I'm go going toa
do it with my phone tonight. I think I'm gonna do some satanic
rituals. Buried, you know,
get some go blood on it. See what happens.

Well, my dog walked over my phone and he's a chihuahua so I
already feel like that's put it on a downward spiral.

>> John (37:45):
Well, now you're in big trouble.
Speaking of that, how about Ouija
boards? Yay or nay? What do you think?

Yeah. Then I'SELF preservation
skills so I don't.

>> John (37:57):
Why did I ask that?

Them I don't touch them. M lots of people say there's like
appropriate ways to use them, which is cool. I'm sure that's
true. Love to talk about it on my show. Love
to hear more. M m because I like to
hear other people's knowledge. But it doesn't mean I'm gonna do
it. I have one in my room. Very beautiful. Love the
decor. I have two sets of tarot cards. I don't
do tarot. My cousin made me. She's like cun need give me a tarot

(38:21):
reading. I'LIKE I don't know how. She's like learn. So
I just, I just like pretty stuff. And I thought
the Ouija board was pretty and same with the
tarot card. So there's like you know, like just like
weird random interests and u pretty Ouija
boards fall under that. But we have in my living room
too. That was from my haunted house. Does that count?

(38:41):
Yeah, yeah, my parents found it when they moved
in. and it's like worn at the edges and they
don't know whose Ouija board it was so they don't know if someone was trying
to summon stuff because boy, it was kind
of left vacant. But my parents kept it and they used to
put it out for Halloween. So when I was a child I thought it was a Halloween
decoration. Theres no planchette.

>> John (39:01):
Move it around. Oh, there's no planchette. Okay.

Yeah, its just there. it doesnt seem to be haunted. But its
a used Ouija board from my haunted house that I thought was a
Halloween decorationie child.

>> John (39:11):
Sophie. No, no, no, no. Don't you watch
any horror movies? That's exactly the way it
starts.

I don't watch a horror movies.

>> John (39:20):
My God, we're a big trouble now, folks.

I've been living in this house 14 years now.
No issues. So that's good.

>> John (39:28):
Okay, good, good.

Ouija board. Very good. Maybe like the oneed laptop.

>> John (39:32):
Okay, okay. Well, Ouija boards are
weird to me because I had, I saw, was a
manager of this retail store. And, but everybody knew I
was into the paranormal. I don't hide it, right?

Yeah.

>> John (39:44):
You know, people come up to me at work still he,
John. And I'll be like, yeah, it's probably
your furnace. Don't you know? Oh, I felt someone touch me and
I'm like, okay, well, you know, you want to do this?
And I walk them to the steps and I have enough,
people, that I know I can call them.
Like, I got like five mediums in and my phone

(40:04):
alone that could be like, hey, Josie. And you're like,
k, hey, I'll do it for it, John. also I have
a pet medium. So if your dogs do die and
you want toa talk to a pet medium, let me know.
I know two of them. They can talk to you
and, you know, soothe you and make you feel better and
talking about spirits and stuff. It's pretty cool.

I'll do you one better. I had a pug that was a
psychic.

>> John (40:27):
Oh, is that possible? Tell me more.

She could see the ghost in our house. Like, she literally
would violently bark where the ghost was.
And when he would enter my room, the diamond doves in my
room would like bounce off the sides of the cage. So we call her
a psychic pug. She has since passed on, but
she was my psychic pug and she really didn't
like the ghost in my house. But, not many people here of

(40:50):
psychic bugs, and I feel like that's a really underutilized
market.

>> John (40:54):
Psychic really is. I think you're
ono something.

Yeah.

>> John (40:58):
You have your own business, Sophie. Psychotic.
Psychotic.

Well, she was psychotic too. She was a pug. That
works as well.

>> John (41:05):
Yeah. awesome.
But anyway, really quickly, I had one of my,
you know, teenagers who, you know, your first job
and everything like that. She came to me and I know this is goingna sound
weird, but I say this all the time, but usually when they would come to me and
let me explain before I say this, they would tell me
that they got pregnant. Now, I did not do
it. Let's just back off because I know that

(41:27):
kind of sounds weird, like, john, they're coming up to you and telling
you they're pregnant. Okay, that's a little weird and creepy. John, what's
going on? No, but that's what I would have him tell me. So. I know
it's like bizarre, right? I'm like, oh no, here she comes
up to me and I'm like, oh great, you know, now I gotta explain.
And I would have to call the parents sometimes because they were
too scared. Jo, could you called my dad and tell him? Oh

(41:47):
my. No, I'm not. You know, get me involved.
Anyway, she, she did
this really dumb thing she went to with her
friends with a Ouija board in a
cemetery. Okay. They heard a
noise and ran and did not close
it. Okay? So she says, john, I didn't

(42:07):
close it. You know, I'm scared. And I'm like, it's gonna be
okay. Don't worry. Go back and
just say goodbye. So you and I showed her how
and everything. That's all you need to do. Two weeks later
she comes in with her mom and I'm going, great. Her mom's gonna be like,
what are you telling my kid? You know, blah, blah blah. Know the
exact opposite. She said, hey

(42:28):
John. And she was like really scared and stuff. She goes, we see
shadows in her house and things are moving and stuff.
And they said, you, you could help us. And I'm like,
okay, there's the problem. So let's
go, let's go to the cemetery. I will go with you
tonight. We will get the Ouija board, we will close it all up.
Everything's good. So the mom was like, great, okay. So we get

(42:48):
together, we drive to the cemetery
and guess what? The
groundskeeper had mowed over it.
So it was completely destroyed.
Completely destroy. So I'm like, okay.
And they're still seeing shadows and they, they can't
sleep at night and they're super worried. So I did call one
of my medium friends and she's awesome.

(43:12):
And she said, okay, we have a problem.
There's something that atts, we got to take care of it.
And I say, can you come out? And she's, she's just such a
sweetheart. And we got a newuija board. And we went back
out to the cemetery and it was kind of funny. It was like
some weird Scooby Doo thing. We're like, like these
older adults are sitting there, these young kids are

(43:32):
sitting there, the medium sitting there. We run through
it. So we close it and everything. And then the medium
goes and she looks around the house and she said, yep, you
have you got a problem here? Don't worry, I will take
care of it. And, you know, everything was. Everything was really good.
So that's what I always say about Ouija boards. You just got to
be careful. You know, if there could be nothing happening,

(43:53):
you get spooked and you run away, or it could be something really
bad. So that's why I kind of have a love hate relationship
with.

That's why I just like admiring them from a distance.

>> John (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, the thing too is they
have demon boards. So I had a guest on, and
she collects demon boards, which are
basically for. Yes, summoning
demons. And I'm like, why would you want
that?

She's like, so you can make really possess. Laptop.

>> John (44:21):
Right? Laptop. We're getting some work
done. Yeah, everything.

She's increasing her productivity by getting
the demon boards, imbuing the demon into the laptop.
It's like a whole. It's a process. I'm sure I don't know her,
but that's just what I imagine.

>> John (44:37):
I love it. I love it. So I was right on the Ouija board. I
was wrong on the room of cursed doyless. That's okay.
We'll change that in the Wikipedia page.
What is getting. Need two investigations here.
What is your favorite investigation and why?

I would say my favorite investigation. So I have a
couple. I would say one is the night I
investigated with ghost adventures because it was just like, a lot of
fun. I had never experienced the poaria in that
way. And my most recent investigation I
did because it was a project I had worked on
for a really long time. and I had gotten to go
to a very historic gilded age mansion

(45:13):
with, some of my friends in the paranormal whom I had never met in
person. So it was just an amazing
experience to get to work with so many people that I've known for
so long. It was my first time going to the.
All the way to the east coast, on the other end,
Massachusetts, and my first time investigating over
there. So it was a lot of first. And it was like an

(45:33):
incredible experience. And, we all had so much
fun that, it was. It was memorable because, you
know, it was not only something I'd worked on for so long, but
also just the people there made it really special.

>> John (45:44):
Yeah. And did you have a really good experience? Do you
remember, an experience there that you're like, oh, this is really kind of
cool?

Yeah, we had, a lot of experiences. We got some
EVPs. We had a lot of the EMF
stuff go off, particularly the deadbell went off
like crazy. And it was really amazing the
responses we were getting with it. our psychic, April
Bust, she's really amazing. She got some
incredible stuff there. So, I mean, between the equipment

(46:11):
and the psychic, we got a lot of really cool feedback.

>> John (46:14):
Yeah. Was there any, like,
EVPs too? Do you get any cool voices or anything like
that?

We do, but it's an editing right now. Like, I'm
like, brought up the dead belt before because it's really cool. We did
get EVPs. We had, on the team, Drew
Babineneaux. He brought his DRCT 60. since it was a
historic location, we had a historian, Robert
Oakakess. like I said, psychic April Bouet. So a lot
of people I had had on my show and had never met in person,
and they were so much fun to work with. And I feel

(46:43):
like we had a lot of fun investigating. And
it's something that I'm really excited to hopefully be able
to share with people soon because was it was
an awesome investigation at a place that is.
I mean, you never would think you'd get to go there and
investigate.

>> John (46:58):
That's so cool. I'm guessing you do
not do the Estes method.

Yeah, someone tried to put me under once, and I think
I just like, overthought the entire process. So, like, I
didn't get anything. But then I did it where I was asking
the questions at this ghost town in Montana,
like five years ago. And we thought we
got a lot of really cool stuff. it was definitely really
creepy. The ghost there was definitely, like, intense. But, it

(47:24):
was a lot of. I wouldn't say fun, but it was like, it was really
interesting to be on the other side. And it was cool to get son many
responses. So, yeah, I would say I'm
probably not the best candidate to go under because I'm an
overthinker. So my brain just doesn't shut off and then it's
like, I don't know.

>> John (47:38):
So I don't want to get it too much into the deep
psyche of you, but my
dad gona be a differentdcast. anyway, so when you mean
that, you mean like, you're your're my like
in the est. This method again folks, is basically
you go, you put goggles. They put, headphones on
you. So you're just totally in the

(47:58):
moment and it's supposed to, you know,
whatever your voices touch,
whatever. So what you're saying is, you know, you're sitting there and
go, I kind of would like some pizza. Is that.

Well, for me, I'm more like. I'm more like, what's gonna come
through? And then you hear something and like, you don't hear it clear enough. So I'm
not gonna try and decipher the voice if I don't know what it
clearly said. And then I'm like, I'm not getting anything. I don't know what that
said. That's just really random. And like, it's
just like, you can't even make out what it's saying. And I'm not
gonna, like, guess, so I'm overthinking the

(48:29):
entire process.

>> John (48:31):
Yeah.

And, Yeah. And then it's like, how long have I
been under? What's going on?
Yeah, it's like, it'sly something you.
You need to allow yourself to be in the moment, for
which I'm m just not good at. In general, a lot of
psychics are like, you know, if you want to pick something up, sit
there, meditate, calm your mind. I'm like, calm my

(48:53):
mind? How do. Does someone do that?
O my God.

>> John (48:57):
Yeah, you. Yeah, I see what you're talking about. I try to
show up. Like, I've been trying to, like,
meditation and everything like that because I got like,
I have some anxiety, but also I have
depression and stuff. So I've been trying to meditate.
And then my mind just goes, you know,
100 miles an hour. Right. And I'm like, what?

Yeah, I was like, going to do get my hair done. And I was
like, the lizard. I didn't feed the lizard. So I'm like,
I have a lizard. It's a gecko.

>> John (49:25):
Okay.

But I was just like, you know, you're doing something
else and then you're just like, wait a second.
The lizard needs food. So it's like's.
Yeah, you just. I didn't think. I'm a PR candidate. I can
ask questions. Great. I've been doing that for like
14 years, so that's no problem.
Got that easy. But actually sitting there and allowing
yourself to be open enough to the experience and

(49:48):
probably not that great.

>> John (49:49):
Yeah, I hear you.
Now, let's talk a little bit about your podcast, the Ghost
Host. Have you ever had a guest on where you're like,
you're kind of not freaking me out in a bad way, but,
like, they're telling, like, whether it be a psychic, a medium
or somebody, and you're like, okay, that's really
weird.

I would say, like, a lot of the things the psychics say
just because, like, I mean, I grew up around psychics. So it's
like very normal to me. But they still say things that you're just like,
you're pretty good there. So it just
like. Like my dad's adopted and we met his.
I found his birth family, really good at researching
online. And so I found his birth family and we

(50:26):
had a pychick on Stephanie and Stevens. She was actually
just her. She was just on my show. And, my
dad's birth sister called it and it was the first time we
had ever talked to her, had not talked to her at all.
And Stephanie starts just reading
her. And my aunt was just calling in to say
hi, and, she goes, I'm smelling colon
cancer and I'm seeing a woman in a red sweater. And

(50:49):
my aunt, whom we even never talked to,
starts crying and she goes, oh, my God.
I was just looking at my picture of my friend
who was wearing a red sweater and she died
of colon cancer. And in mind you, we did not
know my aunt, so Stephanie did not know my
aunt. And so there was no way for her to know this. And this is

(51:09):
literally the first conversation I'm having with my
aun ever. And I was like, wow, I hope,
we didn't scare her off. So that was couple years
ago. She's still around. So, you
knowk.

>> John (51:21):
Okay, good.

Yeah, it's just one of those experiences where you just
go, wow. I've had a
psychic on, Rick Wade.
And the first time I ever talked to him was not
on my radio show, it was on someone else's. And I
called in because I love psychics. I think they're awesome.
So I called in and he goes, I'm seeing this little

(51:43):
brown rat. I'm m getting choco chocolate.
I had a pet rat named Chocol le who was
brown. And I was like, wow, he's good.
And, he literally predicted an earthquake in
California. And it happened like two weeks
later. So that was like. We don't get them here
constantly. So for it to be significant like that and
it to happen literally like that same week was

(52:05):
incredible. And then we also have
another psychic friend, Harvey Altouse. And
he. My mom had had uterine cancer,
and so she was literally in the hospital getting a
hysterectomy. And he calls her up and goes, are
you okay, Shirley? I just had a feeling I needed to
call you and check on you. She's laying in a hospital
bed post op. And he. He just picked up on

(52:28):
that. And so like, even stuff that's not on my show,
the things that always get me the most, not even freak me
out, but just astound me is the
psychics and their accuracy. And I'm
not surprised by it, but I'm still surprised. Like,
I'm used to it when they call up and be like, hey, I'm just getting this
feeling. It's not that surprising because I just
know them that well, but it's still like, how do you know

(52:50):
this?

>> John (52:51):
Yeah, yeahm. Do you agree every
psychic, I don't know if you've asked this question. Every psychic and medium
and clairvoyant and, you know, they
think different names and everything like that, that they believe
we have the gifts, we just have to bring them
forward. Do you believe that to be true?

U I definitely think to a certain extent that
that's definitely true. I don't know to what extent because I
don't have their abilities. I think what you
do not like, they're not like
that. I'm not gonna call you up and be like, hey, I'm getting this feeling.
I don't have that.
I don't know. I don't know about that one. U but
like, when you think about as people

(53:31):
in cave people and how they had this
innate senses in them to help them
survive and pick up on things in the way that
you can to this day, even though we're not in
survival mode like that feel someone standing
behind you or a presence and you don't even have
to look. It's like, well, we as humans have
some sort of sense or ability built into us, I'm sure,

(53:54):
from the caveman times and survival.
And it hasn't gone away. I'm sure
that, you know, that may go into psychic
senses, being able to sense those things that aren't there,
the feeling of being watched and stuff. And so I feel like
people can be more in tune to, I guess,
themselves as a person in their senses. And I think
that that probably also leads to

(54:16):
psychic abilities, but it's about
openness and I guess also how
sensitive a person is. Obviously I'm
sensitive, but I am m notnna be able to call someone up and be
like, hey, are you okay? I just had a feeling. Which,
people do too have deja vu. They get feelings,
but like, you know, I can't pick

(54:36):
on someones dead rat. It like psychics have it a
little bit, I would say, like, cranked up to a million. And whether
people can develop that or not, I'm not sure because I'm not
one of those individuals that he'down
that Path.

>> John (54:48):
Yeah.
You know, one thing I learned, I just interviewed a psychic
gu. Her name was Terry. She was amazing and stuff.
And we were talking about vibration. I don't know if you've
had out of the psychics talk to you about that. What's
really fascinating to me is I've always been this way.
It's super weird. Like I can go into a room and
either people just immediately latch on me,

(55:09):
be like, hey John, what's up? Huh? And other people are
like, get away from me, whatever kind of attitude.
And she was like, it's your vibration. She says we put out
vibrations, we put out energy. And if you're not in the same
frequency, that's why doesn't
work. Have you ever had to mention,
you ever hear anything like that? I think that's fascinating that we
all have a vibration and you know, that's how we

(55:32):
work.

I don't know, I haven't had any like
talks about like I guess vibrations or
pheromones of why people are, you know, drawn to or
not. One of the psychics we had on, she talks about the
power of Ohm. Which I believe is like a form of vibration and
sending that out like that type of energy.
So I would say maybe that kind of leans more into

(55:54):
energies and maybe manifestation or
something along those wavelengths sending out your vibrations.
But I could be wrong on that
because I haven't studied vibrations.
My wheelhouse is ghost. So I'll never
claim to know everything because then I would
would like. You're always learning in the field, you know what I mean?

(56:14):
So it's like'that's the whole point is,
you know, growing and learning and developing. So I
feel like, you know, you hear these thoughts and theories but expanding
on them and where maybe things fit together.
The vibrations of why someone's drawn to you or not. Along
with like sending your energy out into the universe to
manifest. I feel like, you know, there's probably correlations there

(56:34):
and it's just kind of finding how things, how
the puzzle pieces fit together. In the world of spiritualism and the.

>> John (56:40):
Paranormal, I'm
fascinated with not only the
paranormal, but conspiracy theories and
UFOs and cryptids and
just mind control and everything like that. It's
just cause your mind is so
powerful. It's like, you know, yeah, it sounds cheesy, you
could do anything, let's go, you know, kind of attitude,

(57:02):
but it's true. I mean there's been things that
you've been proven that you're just like, that's
really weird. And one of them is
that we can imagine things like, a totem,
which is basically, you can imagine
something if you think around it too, a lot, it's going to
happen. So, for example, people say, like, Bigfoot, but

(57:22):
a lot of the other cryptids, where you just put it in your mind and the
universal mind starts thinking together. There's
that creature, ghost, whatever. Do you
believe in anything like that? If people really just start thinking on,
whether it be positive or negative, that you. They could
bring something forward to some type of force.

I definitely think that there's a certain truth
in that. Like, if you're going out looking for
those bad spirits, you're bound to find one at certain
point. I don't know if it's Murphy's law or the laws of
nature, whatever. I definitely think, at least from what I've seen,
your intentions, like a big part of stuff. And,
you know, in knowing how you want to walk

(57:59):
into stuff. And I think, you know, you can manifest
stuff and put it out there. And like, like I said,
the project I just worked on, I had created a while ago, and
I was. I've worked on it for a while. I loved it. I put
so much of my heart into it. And I told my mom
in 2024. I was like,
this is like January of 2024. I'm like, I'm going

(58:20):
to make this this year. And I didn't
go and work with the team then. We worked in January of
2025. But I started actually
working with the team and have everything set up in
2024. I really feel like part of that was just
like, putting that out there and
acting upon it and knowing what you wanted and going for

(58:40):
it. And I think that's a big part of manifestation
is, you know, putting stuff out there, but also
putting the effort in as well.

>> John (58:48):
Yeah, absolutely.
one of other things with that. And then I got a couple questions before we
wrap up here. Spirit guides. I didn't really.
You know, a lot of people talk about angels and things. What
I found out from my interviews with psychics
and medium stuff. By the way, I have four spirit guides.
I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I do.
And I have a, reading done, which I didn't

(59:10):
put up because it got super personal. Like you were saying,
like, my spirit guides were talking through her
and she was saying stuff. Nobody would know unless they
broke into my medical records. They broke
into, like, caught all my friends.

Yeah.

>> John (59:25):
because I don't put that on the Internet. And there's no way
she, she could have known that. Luckily, my
spirit guides say I'm doing fine, I'm
doing good.

That's the important part, really. At the end of the
day, you know, as long as the spirit guides aren't,
you know, talking to your friends behind your back, I'd say you're doing pretty good.

>> John (59:43):
Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever done a reading
and asked about spirit guide.

No. T. I, my primary focus,
like when people say they do past life readings, I've
had two on, and, the first
one I had on, I said,
how did I die? And he goes, most people don't want to know that. And I was like, yeah,
but how did I die? I want to know. So
I haven't asked about spirit guides. I tend to ask more about my

(01:00:08):
past life, but I have been told by psychics
that I have a lot of good
spirits around me. I don't know if those are my spirit guides or just like
my loved ones. like when I did investigation
recently, like I said, at, the Gilded Age
house, the psychic there said, you know, she was
worried about my co
investigator in one of the areas, but she wasn't

(01:00:30):
worried about me. She said I had a white light around
me. And so I think that, you know, I have
a lot of people on the other side that I love, and
hopefully they're with me. Maybe it's spirit guides. I'm not
sure. Maybe they're one and the same. I don't know either. But,
usually when I ask psychic stuff, it's
about, I want to know how I died. The recent
reading I got about a past life is, from Rick Wade,

(01:00:53):
and he said that I was a plague doctor in a past life, which I just think
is great.

>> John (01:00:57):
So you wore the wacky hat with
the big nose thing and. Yeah, that's
freaky.

>> Sophia Temporarii (01:01:03):
I really wanted to put that in my bio and put former plague
doctor Cur podcast host, because I just
thought that was really inspirational.

>> John (01:01:11):
Go ahead.

I just love that. For me, I think that's a great
profession I had, you know, just like a beak in Renaissance
time. Just walking around with, like, a cape, I could
flourish.

>> John (01:01:21):
You would be awesome. You'd be totally awesome in
that.

Thank you. I think so, too.

>> John (01:01:26):
See it now.

Yeah. Yeah, I think so, too. I think that was really,
like. That was. That's who I am. I really,
deep down, is, my past life of a plague doctor.

>> John (01:01:36):
I would love that. But you know what I want to be? I want to be
a Viking. I Want to be one of those guys who are raiding
and just wa. Flipping out on people,
because that's kind of guy I am. I just like, flipping out sometimes.

I just like that I could just walk around the streets
with beak flourishing a cape. And I feel like that's really
just, like, very powerful sentiment. And then the other past
life reading I got was that I lived in the middle of the
wilderness and I drowned in a lake, and that
I had very close relationship with my neighbor, which, like, I was
talking about today. I'm like, how do I have. Where'is
my neighbor in relation to my house? Like,

(01:02:10):
is this like three miles I'm walking to talk to my neighbor if I live in
the middle of the woods? So then I just, like, started getting stuck, like,
where's my house in relation to my neighbor? Because I
just, like, have to know the details about my past
life.

>> John (01:02:23):
Two things. You had no comment on the Viking thing. You don't think
I could have been a Viking and running amok?

No. I love that for you. If you want to be a Viking, like, I think
you should go for that. I think you should search back and
find where you were a Viking.

>> John (01:02:36):
Yeah, I should do that. You know what? The weirdest thing for me, and this
sounds bad, but I'm gonna say it anyway, is so, like,
I do all this weird stuff too. I go to the Renaissance fairs
and stuff, but, like, when I pick up, like, you know, it's not like
a real sword, but when I pick up a sword, I had to
tell one of these mediums. Like, it feels right.
It feels like I should have that sword. And she

(01:02:57):
was like, I gotta do a reading on you. And. And I said, let's do
a reading. Because I know you're saying that I
feel like I was just this guy just
running around being destructive. That's not
a great thing. I'm not proud of it, but that's it.
There you go.

You're just. You're just living the truth of your past life.
Like, for me, my mom's like, wow, you really connected
with plague dog. Here's what actually happened. My
aunt kept getting Covid. This is not my dad'sister this is my
mom's sister.
She's since passed on. Not from COVID And
she kept getting Covid. And so we were supposed to do,
like, a family Thanksgiving. And I said, you know what would be

(01:03:33):
really funny is if I dressed up as a plague
doctor at the family Thanksgiving, because they keep getting
Covid. So I wanted to sit in the Middle of my grandmother's
den. I wanted to learn Moonlight Sonata by
Beethoven. So I was dressed as a plague doctor sitting in a
piano, playing that. So when my family members walked in, they really felt the
atmosphere of the. At the time. Yeah, that
never happened. But my mom's like, wow, you really love plague doctors.

(01:03:56):
I'm like, no, I really wanted to mess with my
family dressed as a like, doctor.

>> John (01:04:01):
I love it. I love that. I love it. But
okay, just one thing really quick. You
drowned in a lake.

Mmm. I shouldn't have lived near one if I couldn't swim.

>> John (01:04:10):
But what are you doing in the late.

You know I can't answer about my death.

>> John (01:04:16):
Okay.

Maybe it was too traumatic and my past life blocked it from me. But
the point is.

>> John (01:04:20):
Sorry.

It's okay. You know what? That's for another me to
answer. And I don't have that mean in that current,
this current life. But I'd love to know. I have a lot of
questions about my forest living. I have a lot of questions.
I think I'm not meant for that life now. So I
think maybe in my past life, I was so over it that in
this life, I don't want to live in a forest,

(01:04:41):
which I appreciate, because I don't want to live in a
forest. I don't like it. I like going to,
like, Jack the Box. Five minutes for my house.

>> John (01:04:49):
Yeah, Yeah. I gotcha got. I think we've learned some really
good things. Things, my spooky friends. We're not
living in forest. she doesn't have a room of
cursed dolls. I'm some mad,
crazy Viking running around.

Plague doctor
Doctorh.

>> John (01:05:06):
Huh? Plague doctor. Let's not forget that.

Well, no Viking and a plague doctor, which I think is
important. That's duh, hit show
right there.

>> John (01:05:16):
I love it. Let's pitch that.

Well, that could be like a new ghost on
us that once that CBs show ghosts,
they have the Vikings. They just need a plague doctor.

>> John (01:05:26):
That's awesome. We already got a hit. You heard it
here first.

A new ghost for the show. I think that's a beautiful
thing.

>> John (01:05:33):
That would be a great ghost. by the way, I like the
British version better. I don't know if you've seen the British version of GH.

You've seen either of them. I see videos on TikTok and I'll
just, like, watch them. And I'm like. I'm like, I wonder what a full
episode's like. But it's not on Netflix, and I'm not going toa
subscribe to anything else.

>> John (01:05:49):
All right. Ah.

And it's too far into the seasons to watch it on a
regular channel.

>> John (01:05:55):
I hear you. I hear you.
So before we wrap up, I always ask this question of my
paranormal investigators and my paranormal friends. We are
paranormal friends now. Since you were on my podcast, we're all friends.
If I gave you a blank check, I'll become a billionaire. Tomorrow,
I discover something. I'm a billionaire. I call you up
and I said, sophie, you can take my private jet. You can
go anywhere you want. You can stay wherever you want

(01:06:16):
and investigate wherever you want. What's the
number one place you're going to investigate?

I have one in my head that I can't say because
I'm still trying to get in there. U I would say,
I mean, I want to go to poaglia island, which I do think there was plague
doctors on. So, you know, I gotta
revisit my roots. This is not
even far from me, but I love old Hollywood.
I love old movies. So I'd love to go to the
Roosevelt hotel in Hollywood, California. because I

(01:06:44):
just. I just love old movies. I was watching, like,
a 1930s mystery movie last night with my mom.
I just, like, I'm so fascinated by old Hollywood. So,
like, for me, that's one of the things I'd love to go to those
places. Hence why I have beef with pia zidora.

>> John (01:06:58):
Pia zora. She sucks. That's all I'GONNA
say.

You're down a historic home.

>> John (01:07:03):
Come on.

That's so.

>> John (01:07:05):
Yeah. Why would you do that? Why would you do that?

That hurt me. In all my life, the forest life, the plague doctor,
and this one.

>> John (01:07:11):
I don't know what's going on. Know what's going on.

Mary Pickford Douglas Fairbanks house. That's what
she bought. And she tore it down because of
termites, which were apparently actually g Sell
it. If it's haunted, sell it. don't tear it down. She tore it
down, and it's Mary Pickford Douglas fairank's
house. And, it was called pick
fair and she tore it down, and I will never
forgive her. And she doesn't know I exists, but I will never forgive

(01:07:37):
her.

>> John (01:07:37):
Pia'adoreors on the list. That's all I have to say.

She'on my list. I'm very upset about it. I was
so mad.

>> John (01:07:44):
I know that home. I've seen that home in movies and other
things. It's gorgeous.

Well, thank Pia zidora.

>> John (01:07:49):
Oh, PZ Zadora. You can pee Off. Yeah.
That's terrible.

Now you understand my anger. I like to transfer that to other people
so we can just all be collectively angry in the paranormal
about histor locations that are haunted being torn
down.

>> John (01:08:02):
Yeah. Yeah. Come on, man. What are we doing?
Yeah. And you know, obviously it's not that house.
There's been a lot of homes over the years that have been
torn down. Well, this ain't at home, but you've heard
of Bobby Mackie's that got
torned out. But there was a reason why. yeah, it was
kind of a dump. So it had to be torn

(01:08:22):
down.

Do understand safety concerns.
So I'm not gonna. I mean, like, you can. You can
only then it becomes the ship of Thebes. You know,
you replace each board and then. Is it still the ship of Thebes?

>> John (01:08:34):
Yeah, right. Exactly. That was one of my places I
wanted to go to investigate my place. I tell this all
the time. Transylvania. I'm going to Dracula
Castle.

Oh, yeah. That's a cool one too. I'd love to go there.

>> John (01:08:46):
It's gorgeous. It's absolutely gorgeous because nobody
goes there because Hollywood just. You love old movies,
right? So all the old Frankenstein
and Dracula movies, they made Transia
look like, well, just a crap hole.
But it's absolutely gorgeous because nobody goes there.
I mean, you look at pictures on the, the, on
Google and stuff, you're like, dang, this place is really

(01:09:08):
cool. So I'm gonna get to there one day. Whether I'm a billionaire
or not, I'm gonna figure that out. So, and just go to Draculus
castle and check it out. I think that'd be pretty cool. Cause there's been some
pretty cool investigations in there, and I'd love to do
that. So cool.
So, Sophie, can you tell my spooky friends for we wrap up
here what's going on? You know, who are you gonna have on for
guests and what's some new, things

(01:09:29):
popping out there?

Yeah, so you guys can listen to my show. It's
now on Spotify, ieart radio and Apple
podcast. The ghost host Sophia Temporaril. You can
follow me on Twitter ohostowow and
hear about all the upcoming guests. Sofia Temrellis1l
Instagram Sophia Temrelli. You can like the
ghost host Sophia Chmbrellly on Facebook. You can find
some of our past interviews on, YouTube under the

(01:09:52):
ghost host Sophia temporarily upcoming. Well, today I just
recorded a show with m Costa Rican investigator
Israel Brones. and that will be airing next
week. Upcoming. We Have Jen Gelarducci and
Coco Lee of the Appalachian
invested. I can't remember the group name, but they're from
Appalachia. And, then we have on Tawy Lewis,

(01:10:13):
Greg Vine. So those are some of the guests from May.
So the pretty cool shows, have all the shows, like I
said, on Spotify, of the recent ones. And I, hope
you guys enjoy it if you check it out.
Also you can check out, women on the
Fringe, groundbreaking Women in the Paranormal. That was a
book where my story was featured in. And I was also

(01:10:33):
in issue three of Ghosted magazine.

>> John (01:10:35):
I love it. I love it. All that will be in
the episode notes. And I will. I, will put
out as much as I can do to support Sophie
because she's amazing. I've had an amazing conversation. We
have learned so much in this. We could probably talk
even more about of all the other strange
things going on out there and all the new news and everything.

(01:10:55):
And I love it. And I'd love to have you back on sometime
or if you want to have me. I, like I said, I'm always
willing to be a guest. One of the things too is I
do around Halloween. I've done some round tables with
mediums as well as other paranormal investigators.
One of the things is I wanted to do. And I've been
talking to all my great women

(01:11:16):
and powerful women in the paranormal because we couldn't do
this without you. You guys are amazing,
and I love you all because, you know, it's hard.
It's a different. So I'm trying to do a roundtable maybe
around Halloween where you guys can talk about all these different
things where you're affected and how's doing differently. So I to
let you know, hopefully you could join that, because that would be really
exciting because like I said, I love. I

(01:11:38):
love my women in the paranormal, you know, because again,
it's not necessarily a lot of women drift towards it, you
know. And promise me this,
Sophie, that you for Halloween, you got to dress up like
a plague doctor if you haven't already and put it out
there.

I keep just trying to let my cousin let me do it at family events. And she
keeps telling me, no, they were down for Easter and I want to dress up as
Frank the rabbit. And she also told me now, and I was like, but the children could have
pictures. And she. Yeah, she never
lets me be fun and so sad.

>> John (01:12:07):
What's wrong with her?

I know I ask her that all the time. I appreciate you having me
on and I would definitely love to be back on in the future.

>> John (01:12:14):
I love it. I love it. Well, thank you, Sophie. And you have a
great, you know, time with all the new events and stuff
coming up, and stay spooky.
Thanks, Sophie. Bye. Bye now.

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