Midwest Spirit Seekers: Haunted Houses, Dark Spirits & Nightmares

Welcome back to Dairyland Frights! In this chilling episode, John is joined once again by David from Midwest Spirit Seekers, along with team member Tiffany, an evidential medium. Together they share their most intense and unforgettable paranormal investigations across Minnesota—including haunted Victorian homes, protective spirits, and one location so dark they vowed never to return.

From protective ghosts watching over a historic home in Minneapolis, to unsettling encounters at the infamous Boyd House, to shadowy figures and clawed entities at Edinburgh Manor, this episode dives deep into the terrifying and mysterious. Tiffany also reveals how her abilities have helped validate spirit activity and uncover shocking truths hidden within these haunted places.

Plus—hear about the team’s upcoming charity event at Malvern Manor on November 8th, raising funds for Type 1 diabetes.

Highlights in this episode:

• 🏚️ How Midwest Spirit Seekers began and why helping people is their mission

• 👻 Tiffany’s first-hand medium experiences and chilling validations

• 🪦 The history and spirits of a Victorian home in Minneapolis

• 😱 Dark forces inside the Boyd House—what made the team finally walk away

• 🩸 Shocking physical manifestations during an investigation at Edinburgh Manor

• 🙏 Why respect for spirits is vital during investigations

• 📅 Details on their Malvern Manor event

Links & Resources:

• Follow Midwest Spirit Seekers on Facebook & Instagram

• Learn more about their upcoming Malvern Manor event

• Support their fundraising for Type 1 Diabetes research

Episode Transcript

Speaker A (00:00):
Foreign.
Welcome to Dairyland Frights, the paranormalpodcast that covers everything creepy, spooky
and mysterious in the Midwest and beyond.

(00:21):
And you know what?
I am so excited to have dinner.
David, back from Midwest Spirit Seekers.
We had almost an early episode and it was oneof my favorite episodes that we did.
And David had some really nice spooky storiesand some really cool investigation,
you know, stories to talk about andeverything.
It was a blast.

(00:41):
So welcome, David.

Speaker B (00:42):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker A (00:51):
Yeah. And then we have a new person.
I don't know if you're new on the team, butTiffany.
Hi, Tiffany, welcome.

Speaker C (00:59):
Hello.
Thank you.

Speaker A (01:02):
Go ahead.

Speaker C (01:03):
I was just gonna say I've been with them since officially April last year.

Speaker A (01:07):
Hey, great.
And you've put up with David.
You haven't had any problems with him, right?We.

Speaker C (01:14):
We've had a few wild instances together in investigations, that's for sure.

Speaker A (01:20):
Yeah.
So just.
Hey, David, if you could just reintroduce to
my spooky friends a little bit about MidwestSpeaker Spirit Seekers.
Excuse me.
And like, what do you guys have been doing
lately?
Sure.

Speaker B (01:34):
Midwest Spirit Seekers.
We were created back in 2019 with a bunch of,
you know,
fans of the paranormal.
And everybody had their own personal reasons
for joining the team.
And we just wanted to explore the paranormal,but we also wanted to help people.
And I think that was always our main goal isif somebody needed help, what could we do to

(01:59):
help them and how can we help?
Yeah,
we, you know, just like every other place, youknow, we've lost a couple team members.
You know, they had a change and.
But we've brought in three new team members,
including Tiffany.
And then this year we brought in Kaylee andZach.
So you'll start seeing more of them oninvestigations with us as well.

Speaker A (02:20):
Yeah, that, that's, that's awesome.
Because again, you know, teams change and
everything,
you know, that.
That's fine,
you know, as long as you guys continue goingand continue doing the paranormal and
everything like that.
So let's get right into it, guys.
David,
tell me about some of your investigations,
you know, wherever you want to start.

(02:41):
And Tiffany, please feel free to chime in.
Where would you like to start?Which investigation?

Speaker B (02:46):
I mean, there's.
There's been a lot recently.
One of the areas.
That is one of our proudest moments.
I would like to start with there.
And his name's Jason.

Speaker A (02:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker B (02:59):
He lives in southeast Minneapolis and we've been working with him privately at
his location.
He purchased this about 10 years ago and he's
been rebuilding it back to a Victorian stylehouse.
But we've been in contact with him for thepast couple years,
getting to know him and Midwest Spirit seekershas been able to help him and assist him more

(03:24):
with the history.
Yes, there's been some paranormal activity in
his place, but the history that we've beenable to uncover at this house that he's
purchased.
And he wants this place out there, he wants itto be known.
He wants people to come and,
and learn the history of what was in thishouse before he took it over.
So that's been always on our, trying to getover there once a month or once every other

(03:49):
month and do some investigating and helpinghim handle that.

Speaker A (03:54):
Yeah. So let me ask you this really quickly before we go in and tell me what you
found is kind of what is your process fordetermining if a location is truly haunted
versus just having a natural explanation?
I mean, how do you guys start obviously withthis gentleman?
How did you start?

Speaker B (04:12):
Well, I think of it, some of it has just evolved with our team over time.
You know,
when you're first into this and somebody saysour house is haunted,
you know, you're going to go jump and go, togo do it and go check it out.
But when Jesse,
you know, is talking to some of these becauseshe handles a lot of the behind the scenes,

(04:34):
you know, talking with the people and gettingthings set up and all that type of stuff, we
kind of got a set questions that we want toknow.
You know, we'd like to come over and,
you know, do a walkthrough of the houseourselves.
And really that was Tiffany's first or secondexperience bringing her into,
bringing her into the team, but also bringingher into this location and she can share that

(04:59):
as well.
You know,
she wanted to go in blind, not knowing thehistory of the house with her abilities so she
can validate some of the claims.

Speaker A (05:09):
Yeah, Tiffany, so let, let's talk about that.
Are you sensitive or your abilities?What do you mean by that?

Speaker C (05:18):
So I am a evidential medium.
So the way I practice with anything, even if
I'm.
Because I'm a spiritual practitioner and
healer as well, but anything that I do eitherwith spirit or say with client, I practice
blind.
I don't want to know any information priorbecause just as much as say the owner of the

(05:38):
house wants validation, I want validation.
I like to stay grounded.
I like to stay level headed and know that theinformation that I am getting is actually
accurate.
And the only way to do that is to allow Jessand Dave to have information prior.
And then I put in some earbuds.
With some real loud music.
And I'll typically wander around while they'regetting a tour,

(05:59):
Specifically at Jason's.
I'm a very.
I'm very clairvoyant,
so I either will see spirits present with us,or I will just get a lot of visual images from
them.
Yeah, but we.
We've had some interesting stuff over there,and I've seen some interesting things there.

Speaker A (06:14):
Okay, so let's get right into it, shall we?
Describe some of these experiences, because welove to hear it.

Speaker C (06:21):
Well, the very first time we went there, Jason was giving the walk around.
I had my earbuds in, call it the den room,because I. I don't know what he calls it, and
I always forget.
But we started in the parlor and he waswalking them around, and, you know, I'm just
like, do, do, do, do, do.
And we go into the den,
and I.
All of a sudden I see.

(06:42):
I'm going to say an older man.
He had very thin, framed glasses,
round.
He was bald on top.
He had, like, a whitish gray mustache and,like, hair on the side.
And he came off as, like, either a caretakerof the house,
like, butler, but he had, like, a lot ofpride, and he was very, very protective of it.
And I was like, whoa.

(07:03):
He just.
He presented himself, like, right away.
And the weird part was he showed me a podiumin the corner of the room.
So I just.
I ran up because I was like, I still have the
owner here, so I want to validate this.
So I run in there and I pop an earbud out.
And I was like, hey, really weird question.
And I described this man,
and his eyes just got really, really big.
And I forget if he had said it was like a dog

(07:24):
walker or something, but somebody he hademployed saw this man and was so scared that
they ran out of the house.

Speaker A (07:32):
Okay, so do you think spirits can attach themselves to an object?
Because you said it was pointing to, like, apodium or.
You know what I'm saying?Like, do you have.
You touched an object and be like,
there's something with this?

Speaker C (07:47):
So kind of how that works is it usually is either being very direct, like a
very direct message, or it's something for meto interpret.
Usually the interpretations are.
So I understand better.
The podium, to me, felt like it was.
How do I describe that better?Because it's a very small room, so it felt
very out of place to me.

(08:07):
It felt like if you were doing.
Speaking for close relatives or if you were
holding a small sermon in your, you know, yourliving room or something like that,
that's kind of the vibe that it was giving tome when I saw it.
We later found out, Dave, wasn't it.
There was funerals that used to be held in
that room.

Speaker B (08:24):
Yeah. And I think that happened a lot.
You know, late 1800s, early, you know,
services for the people that had passed awayin that house would be done at the house, and
there was a couple of them that had.
Where they did have those services in there.

Speaker A (08:39):
Yes, that's very true.
This would be really hard to do today, but
literally, they would put the bodies, like, ina room.
You know, like you would do a funeral parlor.
And that body might be in that house sittingin that coffin for a week.
And people just stop by, right.
And just say, hi.
I mean, that's really bizarre right now,today.

(09:02):
That's really bizarre.
Back then, kind of the deal, right?

Speaker B (09:05):
Yeah, it was a norm.

Speaker A (09:07):
Yeah. No, you know, no big deal.
So let me ask you this.
Did you, either one of you feel.
You kind of mentioned about it.

Speaker C (09:14):
Were there.

Speaker A (09:17):
That spirit, did you feel like it had unfinished business or was seeking help or
was that.
What did you think?

Speaker C (09:25):
That specific spirit that I connected to?
Because later on, on that first investigationat Jason's, I sat down in that room, and I
just was kind of like, okay, like, can youhelp me understand?
Like, what is this message you want to getacross?
And everything that came through was actuallyvery protective of Jason in the house.
Like, it was.
The spirit was concerned about theft.

(09:46):
What I couldn't make out is if it wassomething that happened during his lifetime or
if he was concerned about something happeningin the actual home.
Um, but then I did remember the dog walker,and I'm not putting blame anywhere, because,
again, this could just be the spirit'sperspective, especially they're being very
protective.

Speaker A (10:04):
Right.

Speaker C (10:05):
So he had talked about, you know, people stealing, and he wasn't okay with that.
He wanted Jason to be around the house moreoften.
And he looks at Jason as the matriarch of thehouse because he hasn't just remodeled a
house.
He has restored their home.
And it is absolutely beautiful.
And all of the spirits in the house, like,they're happy about this.

(10:26):
They want him doing this construction andrestoration.
Yeah. We've even gotten it on audio, I thinkit was.
It was that very first night, right, Dave,when we were up in the yellow room, and we
were asking questions, and it kind of feltlike we were starting to be blocked off a
little bit from their responses.
And I just, you know, got a wild hair up mybutt and that.
I was just Kind of like, would you guys liketo talk to us with Jason here?

(10:48):
And I believe you got a yes.
And then I had asked if they liked Jason doing
the remodel on the house, and they correctedme, and they said restoration.

Speaker A (10:57):
Really? One of the things that kind of.

Speaker B (11:00):
Fascinating about that is the spirits in that house know when he leaves.
And they.
And.
And it feels like when we originally werethere, they were worried, like, if he went on
vacation or something like that.
It knew when he was going away for a few days.
Wow.

Speaker A (11:18):
Wow. That. Two things really quickly.
One, I've never heard of that before.
Usually it's not good when you're renovating,
correct?

Speaker B (11:27):
Yeah. Usually you're waking up a lot of things and could be negative.

Speaker A (11:32):
Yeah.
And that's usually par for the course wherethey see more activity.
People dot liking it.
You know, I've had stories where paranormal
investigators have gone to, like, evenapartments to investigate.
And, like, someone, I don't know moves thecouch,
and then they wake up the next morning, thecouch is back to the original location.

(11:53):
They moved it from.
To a new location.

Speaker C (11:56):
That. That takes a massive amount of energy to do that.

Speaker A (11:59):
Correct, Correct.
Or a chair or cups or pictures or just a
variety of objects.
And, you know, you're right.
I mean, that takes tremendous amount of energyto move a couch or a chair or even pictures.
Right.
So that's.
That's funny.
That's the first one I've heard of ghosts

(12:20):
being protective of children.
I've had people on to say, like, well, youknow, my daughter,
you know, she's talking to Mr.
Smith.
And, you know, every time I come in there, and
I, like, maybe sold her or something likethat,
Mr. Smith doesn't like it and kind of lets meknow.
I've heard of things like that.

Speaker C (12:42):
That there's many spirits in his house.
Like, there.
There are quite a few.
There's.
There's a little girl.
There's a younger woman.
There is an older woman, who I believe.
Is it Ms. Schaefer, Dave?

Speaker B (12:58):
Yeah. So a little history on the store or on the building.
You know, this was built in the late 1800s.
And some of this we found out afterwards.
For example, back then, there wasn't, youknow, if you were building a house, you
weren't building on a prior property, but forwhatever reason,
this house was built on a former house,
which makes you wonder why a little bit likethat.

(13:21):
One of the things this house was gifted as aretirement present for.
Her name is Sarah Schaefer.
She was the first matron in the Minneapolis
Police department.
And they gave her this house as.
As a retirement gift.
And so she kind of took it over.
Over the years.
I. From what I've heard, a lot of formerpeople that she knew live there.

(13:45):
So that house was there until she passed away,and then it was in and out for a little bit.
But I think around the 70s,
it had been in foreclosure for up until 10, 11years ago when he bought it.
So who knows what was in that house afterwardsafter it got.

Speaker C (14:05):
I mean, who knows how many people took like, Ouija boards and stuff in there
because that house was not in good shape whenhe purchased it.
But it is spectacular now.

Speaker A (14:14):
Wow, that's really interesting.
So tell me about the other spirits.
What other spirits did you encounter there?

Speaker C (14:21):
So the first time we were there,
I try to draw them when I can.
I can't.
I'm not the best artist.
But when we were in the green room, I gotimagery.
That's when I first saw the little girl.
She has, like, blondish hair.
And then there was like, another woman who,since then I haven't seen, but she had, like,

(14:43):
short black hair,
and she had, like, really thick, dark eyebrowsand bangs.
And, you know, it wasn't like she was Asian oranything like that, but she was a very,
very distinct spirit.
But I haven't seen her since that day.
However,
that same session when we were in that roomand we saw the little girl, all of a sudden
all I could hear was, he's coming, he'scoming.

(15:06):
And all of a sudden I am getting visuals of abutcher in a basement holding.
I don't know what that piece is, but one ofthose big butcher knives,
and he had, like, a brown leather apron on.
And he.
He just was not happy.
And it was like.
It was the weirdest thing.
It was like he was looking up at me throughthe floorboarding from the basement, and I

(15:30):
just had the weirdest feeling.
And then he hid for a while.
He just was not very communicative.
And I started thinking that maybe because heis a bit of a lower vibrational spirit, that
he was withholding other spirits from.
From communicating.
Like he doesn't want them to kind of tell
their story kind of thing either.
Dave, have we.

(15:50):
Did we figure out if it was Emma as the girlor if Emma was the woman who hung herself?

Speaker B (15:55):
We believe that Emma is a little girl.
We're kind of putting her right now under theage of 12,
kind of that 10 to 12 range of what we've beenable to capture.
And.
And that's been A very strong name in that
house.
I think with just trying to get evidence or
what happened to Emma where more things havecome out that maybe might be more negative

(16:17):
just because it doesn't want to share whathappened to her.

Speaker C (16:20):
Right.
And the other thing too,
on a lot of the audio recordings that we'vegot,
just, it feels, for lack of better wording, itfeels like all the other spirits in the house
talk smack about Emma.
Like she's the problem for this Emma, youknow, Emma, like Emma did that or Emma brings
disgrace.

(16:40):
Like they really like push that out.
So we're really looking into the history andwith the basement having a filled in sub
basement below it.
Personally, with how interested the spiritsare with him doing digging up the basement, I
feel like there might be some stir of echostuff that he uncovers later on.
But, you know, I could be wrong, but that'sjust my gut feeling.

Speaker A (17:02):
Yeah, that's really interesting because again, this seems like an unusual case
and correct me if I'm wrong, but seems they'reprotective.
Seems like I don't, I don't feel.
Or maybe you guys, again, just correct me.
Do you feel any like evil spirits, likesomething was being evil, or do you just feel
like they were just, you know,

(17:23):
Emma, she's kind of a pain in the neck.
Like, what was your feeling about that.

Speaker C (17:27):
When it comes to Emma being a pain in the neck?
I think that for a lot of the spirits either,you know, we have some hypothesis that
possibly she was one of,
you know, the maids in the house or somethingand,
you know, something's happened to her and backthen you just kind of brush things under the
rug or back then, you know, you wouldtypically blame the woman for those kind of

(17:48):
issues and things like that.
So I just think that she was the scapegoat foreverybody.
Just kind of be like, oh, you know what?No, that's, that's, that's her fault.
That's her,
you know, and just kind of brush it away sothey don't have to deal with it kind of thing.

Speaker B (18:06):
I was just going to say, I would also say that the more history and the more
evidence that we've been able to capture isalso showing a little bit more darker side
than what we initially thought when we,
you know,
over there the first time, because we've beenover there quite a few times, spending a
weekend,
you know, like I said in a previous podcastthat we've done, you know, sometimes we push

(18:30):
our limits, but no, we want to try to get thatinformation and make sure it's as accurate as
we can get for Jason in his place,
right?

Speaker C (18:37):
I could say that.
As for negative, the first time we were there,
there was a spirit.
So just a quick little, so you guys understand
how I understand this and how I view this as amedium, there was a spirit.
So the lower of a vibration your soul is in.
So, like, if you don't cross over when you
pass away, you keep the mindset you have whenyou are alive.

(18:58):
You don't remember everything.
You don't understand why you live that life or
your lessons or anything like that.
You're stuck in the same mindset.
And a lot of spirits get stuck in loops.
And then if they're trying to communicate withpeople,
if people are reacting in fear or it's angryenvironments, they're feeding off that same
energy,
but they're using that energy to communicate.
So it kind of starts to twist things.

(19:18):
This spirit in particular ended up being.
I saw him in a prison uniform, and that was
only after I told him to reveal himself.
Because before that he was presenting himselfto me as this long, gangly,
black humanoid thing, mostly shadow, and ithad claws.
And he would climb all across the roofs, whichthe owner saw as well.
And,
you know, when I told him to reveal himselfand I saw what he actually was, I'm like,

(19:42):
look, you know, like,
you got to goes like, if you're not going tobe a positive spirit in the house, you got to
go.
And then later on, you know, that's not evenincluding the butcher because I have a lot of
different feelings on that spirit.
But there is one that we're aware of.
But I can't say more on that right now outsideof he is a watcher and he likes to get into

(20:05):
people's heads when they're sleeping.

Speaker A (20:08):
That's really interesting.
Yeah, I've heard too, where some ghost will.
I'll use attack,
for lack of a better word.
People who are vulnerable, right.
Maybe they're going through some depression,maybe they're going through.
Who knows, right.
And those ghosts seem to latch on andunfortunately intimidate that person.

(20:30):
Cause issues, whether it be mental or healthrelated.
Did you guys feel like that was kind ofhappening sometimes when you were
investigating there?

Speaker C (20:39):
They've been to the house more times than I have, so they probably have
better instances.
Personally, for me, the few times that I havebeen there, I, you know, I picked up on like,
I think somebody fell off downstairs.
Like, I picked up a head injury.
I never.
Sorry, my cat.
Yeah, Dave, do you want to answer that one?

Speaker B (20:58):
Well, I would just say, I think as.
As we've gone on, we've never felt like
anything was going to be.
That was going to attach to us, come home withus, you know, those type of scenarios, because
there are some of those spirits there that arevery fond of Jason and they want to be there
with all the stuff that he's been able to doand the stuff that he's been able to bring up.

(21:21):
Yes, there is some darker things as.
As there as well that are trying to block,
though, you know, for us finding that.
But we've never felt, to the point where we
felt that something was going to come homewith us or anything like that.

Speaker C (21:34):
We never felt like we did at the Boyd house.

Speaker A (21:38):
Okay,
before we move on to another investigationhere, do you guys,
what have you been using as far as devices,
investigation devices that have given you themost information that you've been at this
house?Was it spirit boxes?
I'm.
I'm always interested in that because
everybody does everything different sometimes.

Speaker B (22:00):
What's given us some of the best information, but has also made us more
vulnerable is doing the Estes method.
And we use it.
We use it quite a bit, but we had the redDelco goggles that are.
More people are starting to use,
and that really opens you up probably a lotmore than you should.

(22:21):
I even had a dream one night where a big signthat.
With a line through Delco not to use itanymore because it was opening us up to,
you know,
what negative things could be out there.

Speaker A (22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker B (22:38):
So some people use a spirit box.
We use.
It's called a Phasmo box.
It's an app that.
That we have attached to one of our iPads or.
Yeah, like iPad.
And, you know, when we took that on, obviouslywe were very leery of it.
You know, it might have a word box in there,you know, those type of things.
So we actually made a fake email.

(23:00):
So. And that thing only gets used oninvestigations and it's, you know, set up that
way to make sure that it's legitimate.
But, you know, we're using a lot of recorders,
a lot of.
Of those type of things to get talking to.
And then, you know, bringing Tiffany, you
know, when she says something and stuff.
It's been able.
Where we're now we can go into it andvalidate, you know, both of our claims to make

(23:23):
sure it's legit.

Speaker A (23:25):
Yeah,
that.
That is.
That can be difficult sometimes, right, to.
To do that and to make sure you're just not
getting that.
The AM station down the road, you know, Comingthrough, whatever.
I know that probably does not happen at all,but you know what I mean?
Some.
Just some extra noise that kind of comes
through, and you're like, oh, man.

(23:45):
And I think that's really difficult,
especially if you're near a busy street orsomething like that.
Cars coming in and going by and peopletalking.
That can be difficult.
So it's spooky season, folks, and this will beairing during October.
What's the scariest thing that happened to youin this house?

Speaker C (24:07):
You know, outside of.
Outside of the last time I was there in the
basement,
because that's where we feel like a lot ofwhatever traumatic things happen, happen or
were hidden.
I can say that I brought in one of mystudents, and we had her do a walkthrough
with.
Was it you or with Jesse that she did the

(24:29):
walk?
It was with you.
Okay, so you can probably fill in better with
this then, because I sat my little booty down,and I was like, go.
Go see what you pick up.
I love when another medium comes in and we areable to validate things.
And she picked up a lot of the differentthings that I picked up.
She picked up things that we'd gotten on audioand stuff before we did go into the basement,

(24:50):
and it was just me,
her,
and Jess. And this is the first time we hadall women in the basement, so.
So it was very different.
And for the whatever reason, the energy
actually shifted.
And the woman who hung herself came through
for.
For me and my student.
I'm not sure if we got it, if we'd been able
to review the audio from that night yet, but Igot a. My focus was more on the man, the

(25:16):
butcher, who seemed to be very controllingabout things.
And I was just like, you know what?Get out of here.
Like, I know there's another entity upstairs,
and I know he is the one who kind of rulesthings in the house and tells you what to do.
So if you.
You got nothing on us right now, and you need
to leave the room, because I know he runs theplace.
And it wasn't necessarily like I was trying tochallenge anything.

(25:39):
I was trying to operate in a way of.
I know you're not in charge.
I know someone else is in charge, spirituallyspeaking, in the veil.
And you.
I'm not afraid of you.
Well,
I.
I think I brought something to light becauseall of a sudden I started choking.
I felt like I was being choked.
The impression.
And then my student started.

(26:00):
It felt like she was just getting punched in
her stomach.
And so we both went outside and we cleansedourselves with some sage, and immediately the
symptoms would go away.
But if we step back in, it would reoccur
again.
So we waited a little bit before we went back
down there.
And to me, how I interpret that,
I think it was more of a reaction on thatentity or spirit's part.

(26:20):
I think it was a like, keep my name out ofyour mouth, stop talking about me kind of
thing,
because it is his domain.
And that is the only time that anything likeaggressive has happened, at least while I've
been there.
Unless anything's happened when Dave is there.

Speaker B (26:35):
You know, especially at that place, we hear the disembodied voices or we've heard
anything, but nothing aggressive or negative.
That, again, would.
That needed to worry us compared to whatTiffany and her student were claims.

Speaker C (26:49):
I do have one thing to say on this.
Recently at Crypticon, I met somebody who wasa demonologist and things like that.
And so, you know, out of curiosity, eventhough I'm a lightworker, I had questions
because everything's about balance andunderstanding.
Basically, I had him connect to what's there.
It's not anything demonic, so it definitely is
a human spirit who's probably just,

(27:12):
you know, confused.
Haven't uncovered their story yet.
Prior back on the day of Crypticon,originally, Jason had offered me a room to
stay so I wouldn't have to pay for a hotelwhen I was down in the cities for that.
And so that was the plan.
Well, that morning I kept feeling like, don't
go.
Like, you shouldn't go.
And I was like, man, you know what?Let's just skip through the day.
Let's see how you feel.

(27:32):
You got a long drive.
Let's see how the event goes.
Well, you know, about 5:36, I was like, I
just.
I definitely feel like I should not be
sleeping there tonight.
And, you know, I told Jess that.
So I text Jason.
I was like, you know, thank you so much.
I think I'm just gonna, you know, power
through and drive home tonight.
You know, I appreciate the offer.
And he had messaged Jess and told her that it
was expecting me and that things were going alittle crazy in the house.

(27:56):
Like, it was upset that I did not come.
So that's kind of what prompted me to askquestions to the demonologist.
I was like, you know, let's.
Let's see what.
What someone else sees.
Because again, if you're able to validate each
other and things like that.
However, the reason that I bring this up,because it will affect a later investigation,
is I made A deal,

(28:19):
because this entity has asked me to speak withit, and I have just been very much on the
fence because I couldn't tell if it was tryingto mess with me or if it was being genuine
yet.
But the agreement was, if it stops blockingthe other spirits from communicating with us
so we can hear their story, I will sit downand, you know, we will obviously have all of
our equipment and everything going, but I willsit down with him and I will channel and I

(28:39):
will talk with him.
And according to what I was told, he bowed outin agreement.
So I'm interested to see if, on the nextinvestigation, if that actually is true and if
it keeps its word.

Speaker A (28:50):
Yeah, that's really interesting.
Yeah, that's fascinating.
Dave, do you want to add anything?

Speaker B (28:55):
I don't think so.
I think that kind of covers that place.

Speaker C (28:59):
Yeah.

Speaker B (28:59):
And the address,
people, you know, if people are interested in.
It's 3223 Bridgeham in Minneapolis.
That's where he is at right now.
And again, he's hoping to have it on the.
At least on the Minnesota or Minneapolis
history tours or haunted tours as well.
So.

Speaker A (29:17):
Nice.
Nice. Would he be doing investigations?Because I have, you know, audience in that
area.
Does he do like, you know,
he would do the tours or you just kind ofbasically walk around in certain areas and
kind of do your own thing?

Speaker B (29:34):
I think he would go through it.
I think his plan, and I don't want to speak
for him completely, his plan was, you know, hewould share the walk with the group that
wanted to tour and give the full details.
We would have our stuff for them so they couldhear and verify everything as well.
So he's very open to sharing this house withpeople and the history in this house.

Speaker A (29:58):
Good for you.

Speaker C (29:59):
I just think the biggest thing is, like, he.
He respects the spirits of the house very muchso.
And I believe that that's why they love him somuch.
And so anybody who does choose to check thatplace out, I do encourage you to treat the
spirits of the home with kindness and respect,
because they are very.
They don't.

(30:19):
It's a good.
It's a good place.
So.

Speaker A (30:21):
Yeah, that's.
That's really good to say, Tiffany, because
again, people forget these.
These were people once, just like you and me.

Speaker C (30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker A (30:30):
And for whatever reason, stuck there, want to stay there.
Who knows?If you go in there trying to elicit a negative
response, you're probably going to get onejust like us.
If you, you know, either one of us startyelling and screaming at each other, well,
probably it's going to happen.

Speaker C (30:47):
Yeah.

Speaker A (30:48):
And, you know, why would you want that?
Especially you don't know what could happen.
And there's been a number of things, you know,investigations that people have done that and
nothing good has come out of it.
So, yes, treat them with respect and treat the
house with respect.
And, you know, again,
just know you.
Hopefully you can go there and figure out

(31:09):
something for yourself or get some answers foryourself.
And that's the whole point.
Right.
Awesome.
So what investigation we're going to move onto next?

Speaker B (31:17):
Well, do you want the good, the bad, or the ugly?
I guess.

Speaker C (31:20):
Do you want.

Speaker A (31:20):
I want all three.

Speaker C (31:23):
Well.

Speaker A (31:25):
Well, let's start with the ugly.

Speaker C (31:27):
Well, well, sorry.

Speaker A (31:29):
Dividee.

Speaker C (31:29):
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's just a big can of worms.
But you know what?I think it's about time we talk about this
location because we've been really respectfulto the city of Boyd and its history because
that city has a lot of dark history.
The house.

Speaker A (31:45):
Is this still in Minnesota or where is this?

Speaker C (31:47):
This is in Minnesota.

Speaker B (31:48):
That's about.
This is in 20 miles west of Montevideo, closer
to the South Dakota border.

Speaker C (31:54):
This. This town's so small.
A gas station, a bar that is also the liquorstore and is next door to a cafe.
And then for whatever reason, they have astrip club,
a strip club across the street that apparentlyis very successful.

Speaker A (32:12):
Perfect.

Speaker C (32:12):
So.
So super, super small town.
Dave and Jess brought me in to check out thathouse.
Or we, again, they call it the Boyd house now.
We checked that out.
I want to say November of 202022 with me.
They had been there prior.
When I walked through, I had picked up on.
I used to.
I colored my thick thigh queen.
There was a woman who would sit on this Chaselounge in the living room.

(32:35):
And when I came in, it was really funnybecause she looked at me and she just patted
the seat.
She's like, like, come sit down.
Come sit down.
And I was just kind of like, okay, you know,
continuing the walk through.
And I get to another couch, and again she'sback over there, like, patting the thing.
And I looked at Jess.
I was like, are we allowed to sit on the
furniture in this house?
And she's like, yeah.
I was like, okay.
Just keeps encouraging me to sit.

(32:56):
There was also a little boy and a girl.
There was an older man we encountered later upin the closet, hiding.
He does not like the traffic of the home.
He is kind of cranky with it.
And he doesn't like when the children playupstairs.
Then of course, there's Fred and Minnie.
And everybody could argue with me with it if
they want, but I'm the one talking to thespirit.

(33:17):
And Fred is a pervert.
I have never.
I have never,
ever been.
What's a good word for this, Dave?Had a spirit come on to me so adamantly
before.

Speaker A (33:32):
And when you say come on to you, what do you mean by that?

Speaker C (33:35):
Like. Like one of the times.
Because it got to a point where I was justlaughing about it.
I was like, this is ridiculous.
Like,
and at first I thought that the Thick Thighqueen was his wife.
So I was like, go spend time with your wifeand, like, leave me alone.
And no. And then.
So there was this one time in that house, the
very first time Jess had me in.

(33:56):
Like, you exit the kitchen.
Dave, what's that room called where they had
the coffin originally?

Speaker B (34:00):
Well, that was one of their kind of the living room.
But again, that's one of those houses thatthey would put the casket there for three to
five days.
And that's where, like, the owner, Fred and
Minnie, who were well known in that town,
that's, you know, where they're.
Where they laid for a few days so everybody
could pay their respects.

Speaker C (34:20):
So Jess had me.
She.
I didn't know what the spot was.
She's just like, hey, will you lay on the
floor right here like this, in this position?And it was just kind of like,
okay.
So I laid down and, you know, she was sitting
in a chair right by the doorway entrance.
So, you know, I tilted my head back to look at
her.
And all I see is Fred, like, leaning in thedoorway like this with his shirt unbuttoned

(34:45):
and just kind of like, you know, and I'm like,what the heck is going on here?
And just.
It was just kind of like, again, it wasn't
anything like crazy disgusting or anythinglike that.
But, like, again, a spirit's coming onto me.
And it was just the funniest thing to me.
It's the funniest thing.
And then I came across.
I called her the Thin Woman, but it turns outthat was Minnie,

(35:06):
because again, I practiced blind.
So Fred is the one who was coming on to me.
Minnie was his wife.
But that first night, I got drawn up to the
attic.
And we had followed an old man spirit upthere.
Again, he liked to hide.
So while we were up there, because of how he'd
get cranky about kids playing and stuff.

(35:26):
And I'm like, you know, we're trying to talk
to him about crossing over and things.
And then,
um, I had one of my students with me that timeand I let her ask questions and she was trying
to encourage him to cross over.
And she's like, I can open white light up.
And then all of a sudden, like, it was fullforce.
Like when I tell you, like, the other place Idid get choked, this is choking was something

(35:51):
that Jess could hear from downstairs in theliving room.
So two floors down, I,
like, I was gagging and I had to get up andwalk away.
And I was just so infuriated.
I was like, whoa, where did this come from?
Like, and at first I was putting it on the oldman, like, why would you do this?
And then, you know, we were done with theaddict and we went down to the basement where

(36:13):
the spirit I refer to as crackhead decided toshow himself.
He has a spirit who has.
He's very thin, very gangly.
He has user tendencies.
So he's very erratic and he likes to pace back
and forth.
And you know, in the night, he's those like
long sleeve silk shirts people would wearbutton ups.
He wore bright red, one of those.

(36:34):
And he had long slicked back, greasy hair in a
low ponytail.
And he hid the entire investigation.
And about this time, I had channeled for aboutnine hours.
So I was, I was getting a little tired.
And so he started presenting himself becauseDave, he was obsessed with Dave.
And this is kind of where things I would saylatching on started.

(36:58):
Because Dave sat down, they had this tabledown there, he was going to do poker playing
and he, you know, he's.
We have.
What was it?EVP going?
And we're asking questions and he saidsomething and he phrased it in a way.
And I was like, no, like he was going to playcards.
And he's like, I'll make you a deal.
You can come home with me if, you know, you
win or something.

(37:18):
Just trying to get like a response.
And I was like, dave,
never say anything like that.
Never say anything like that.

Speaker B (37:25):
That was a good learning experience.

Speaker C (37:27):
And, and we learned.
But then, like, I tried to ask a couple of
questions and it would go dead, dead.
If Dave asked questions, he would respond and
I could hear his response.
So then I was like, Dave, I don't think helikes women talking to him.
And then that's when it clicked.
He was the, he was the one in the attic.
He was the one who choked me out.
So he just hid the whole time.

(37:48):
But Dave, if you want to enlighten him, kind
of where the rest of that went and where wewent, I went crazy.

Speaker B (37:53):
So, you know, that place has been out there for people to investigate.
For quite a few years now, getting up there, Imean, for a total, we've probably investigated
there eight, maybe nine times.
You know, the first time that we were there,you know, walking in there,
I kind of thought originally was like Jason's.
There was something there, but nothing dark.

(38:14):
It was just a spirit that wanted to sharetheir story.
But as each investigation we got there, andthen, especially when Tiffany started joining
us on investigations there, it was gettingdarker and darker, and it was coming after me.
It was like Tiffany said it was obsessed withme for whatever the reason that night that we

(38:36):
were making those deals and different stufflike that.
Tiffany didn't stay the whole weekend.
So the next night it was Jesse and I. And it
was just kind of got that off feeling.
The house was quiet that night.
And I said, well, you know,
instead of driving back early in the morning,let's just start packing up and we'll just
head out early.
You know, we'll let the owner know.

(38:57):
And so I went down to the basement where itseems a lot of this stuff was going on.
And I was standing up just past the foot ofthe stairs to the right, there's a back room,
and there's kind of a bathroom and laundryroom.
And the left was the card table that we wereat.
And I was just standing there for a minute,and I look over to my right where the bathroom

(39:20):
was,
and there was this dark shadow about my heightwalking right next to me.
And to try to explain it to people,
I was like,
count to four.
That's how fast it was moving.
And not.
It was like right there.
One, two, three.
And it was going towards that back room that

(39:40):
was over in the corner.
So it was coming from the laundry room.
And it caught me off guard at first because Iwas like, you know, you want to double check?
Did I see that?Was it something around?
You look around, you know, Jesse was upstairs.
And I was like, jess,
like, what?And I'm like, you need to get down here, like,

(40:01):
right now.
And I explained the whole situation.
And she always said I was very calm.
And I think part of it was shock.
But with what has happened, me at some of theother places being touched and grabbed, I
think I had accepted it,
but it was still.
Until you see that yourself.

Speaker A (40:19):
Yeah.

Speaker B (40:20):
You really don't know how you're going to react to a situation like that.

Speaker A (40:26):
Yeah.

Speaker C (40:27):
And sadly,
since the investigations have continued, thevery last time that I went back to that house.
Cause, Dave, haven't I only been there.
Was it twice or three Times,
Twice. So the second time I went back withthem.
God, it was April of last year.
You know, I went into the house and it feltdifferent.

(40:48):
Like, energetically.
It just felt very different and felt.
I didn't see a single spirit again.
I didn't see Fred, I didn't see Minnie.
I didn't see the children.
I didn't see the old man.
I saw no one.
And it was really, really weird.
And, you know, we're trying stuff in all these
different areas and everything.
And then I kept feeling like we needed to goto the attic.
And I'm like, let's go to the attic.

(41:08):
Let's go to the attic.
Let's go to the attic.
So, you know, finally we wrap up with whatever
we're doing last and day.
Oddly enough, this is because, you know, Jastypically is like, the mind behind everything.
And she helps us, you know, coordinate, dothings and, like, set up the equipment and,
you know, help us decide which areas we'regoing to do things in.

(41:28):
And this time she's like, you know what?I want to do the Estes method.
And we were like, oh, like, okay, cool.
Like, yeah.
So we went up to the attic, and it was thisgiant attic.
So she's at the complete opposite end.
And then Dave and I are sitting back by the
stairs and asking our questions.
You know, it is an empty attic, but still.

(41:48):
So she's got those headphones on, she can't
hear us.
She's got goggles on, she can't see us.
And we just talk in low voices, asking herquestions.
And what I thought was weird is, you know, Iwas just kind of being quiet while Dave was,
like, leading things.
And I kept feeling like if we were beingdicked around,
basically, to sum it up,

(42:09):
because all of a sudden they're talking aboutthe stop sign by the railroad track, they're
talking about nurses and, like, all of thesedifferent things that have never come up
inside that location before.
So I was like,
it. Like, my spidey senses went off.
And so when my spidey senses go off, I'm like,hey,
it's time.
It's time to ask certain questions.

(42:31):
So immediately I said, without trying toantagonize anything, I said, hey.
I was like, you know, like, we're only here tohelp.
We care about the spirits of the house, and wedon't know if anyone's ever given you the
option, but if you'd like to cross over, we'regoing to open that chain of light for you guys
to cross you over.
I Know, I was like, we're good friends withArchangel Michael, so we can call on him to

(42:53):
help you guys.
And then all of a sudden, what came through
the Estes method was,
******* *****.
Pushed her down the stairs.

Speaker A (43:00):
Whoa.

Speaker C (43:01):
Complete 180. And then after that, I could see it.
And I don't know if you've ever watched Buffythe Vampire Slayer,
have you?Yeah, the very first season.
The Master, the bad villain.
He's the vampire.

Speaker A (43:14):
Yeah.

Speaker C (43:15):
Kind of looks Freddy Cougar.
Ish.
Like, his skin looks weird.
And that's what this was.
Except it was like over 6 foot, and it wasvery gangly and had very long fingernails.
And I'm like, what?And it's just.
It's right behind her.
And I'm like, what?
What the freak?And, you know, I've been working with Dave on,
like, his own development with spiritualityand things like that.
So my first response is validation.

(43:39):
So I just nudge him.
And I'm like, Dave, like, do you see anything
around Jess?And I don't know if you want to, like, tell
your spot about that, Dave.

Speaker B (43:47):
Yeah. And when she kind of nudged me and I'm like,
okay.
And I started looking and,
you know, took a little bit, but then I'mlike,
holy.
I said, there's this,
you know, bald, pointy eared thing with longnails,
putting his arm around my wife.
I mean, as a husband, even in a paranormalinvestigator, I mean, that's my first thing,

(44:10):
is to protect her.
So seeing this, I'm like, you know, you'reshocked at first because it's, you know,
people throw that word demon around, like,it's right,
whatever, you know, and when you look atvalidation, you're like, okay, what did I just
see?I've never seen anything like that.
So at first I'm like, is that a demon?
Is that this, you know, going through my headas fast as I can process it?

(44:34):
What did I just see?
And then I think we kind of looked at eachother and.

Speaker C (44:40):
And we were like, we're done.

Speaker B (44:41):
We're done.
We called on all the archangels to help us at
that point.

Speaker C (44:46):
Well, we know before that,
before that there was one part because, like,I flipped the light on, which, because we were
next to it, and it jolted Jess out of it withthe red goggles.
Because it did.
Like a flash.
And I was like, we're.
We're ending this.
Like, this isn't human.
This is something very negative, something
with very big ill will.
And I walk up to Jess and I am like.

(45:06):
I tap on her shoulder and she's just like,
well, I'm fine.
And, you know, she's like, I. I'm okay.
Like, I want to keep going.
And I'm like, all right.
But if I. If I get one more inkling, like,
we're done.
Like, we're.
We're done.
And so she went back under.
We went back to our spots.
And then, you know, I. I'm not sure whichquestions we were on at that point or what we
were saying at that point, because I know Iwas talking about angels.

(45:27):
And then Dave grabbed my arm, and he was like,tic ti.
And it was off to my right in the darkness andin the shadows, but there was a huge treasure
trap.
And Dave grabs my arm and he goes, ticket.
And he's whispering to me.
He's like, that thing is on the treasure chest
or.
No, he's like, it's on the.
What did.
You called it something else, didn't you,
Dave?
You were like,

(45:48):
he called it something else.
I'm calling it a treasure chest.
Because immediately after he called it out,being on that object you hear come out of the
Estes Method treasure chest.

Speaker B (45:58):
Wow.

Speaker C (46:00):
So it just.
It got to a point that it was very, very
threatening up there.
And I was just kind of like, we're done, Zoe.
We had to sleep the night in the house, so I'mlike, didn't get the best sleep because I'm
just being vigilant.
And then the next day, we did a tour of the
town.
I call her with mayor lady, and weinvestigated some of their stuff out there.
And when we came back,
our.

(46:20):
I call them, their tech guy, Spencer, he wasthere,
and he had shown up the next day.
So I was like, well, I'm going to go.
Don't go into the basement.

Speaker A (46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker C (46:30):
Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

Speaker A (46:32):
Right.

Speaker C (46:33):
And don't forget what happened last night.
Like, I'm not playing, and I will not sleephere again.
And I also, like, I have to go because I hadwork.
So, Dave, I wasn't here for any of this.
And this is just where everything really took,
like, a huge turn with that house and reallyopened our eyes to what had actually been
happening.

Speaker B (46:51):
Wow. So the night that Spencer got there, we went back to the attic.

Speaker C (46:56):
You know, first thing they did, really.

Speaker A (46:59):
We went back to the attic and took off.

Speaker B (47:02):
We went back to the attic.
I don't listen very well.

Speaker A (47:04):
It's, you know, I guess not.

Speaker B (47:08):
He was under for the first part of it, and, you know, we were getting questions
and stuff like that, but it wasn't to thenegative that the night before it was funny
because I'm surprised that after looking backat it now, I'm surprised I didn't get a
response the first night.
Like a couple months or a month or so monthprior, actually, I had just gotten a Archangel

(47:32):
Michael tattoo.
It was something that I always wanted.
You know, I kind of asked him, you know, Ipointed out my arm, not saying anything.
I said, do you know what this means?And I said three.
And it kind of baffled me at first.
And I'm kind of looking at the hierarchy maybeof, you know, God, Jesus, Archangel Michael,
those type of scenarios.

(47:52):
But it sounded like it understood what it was
and what it represented on my arm.
So then we flipped and I was under the methodand Spencer was asking questions and it
started getting darker.
Now we've previous times that I've been there
and when I've gone under.
That's why I said, delco takes everything awayfrom you and puts you vulnerable.

(48:16):
Because those times in the past that I've beendown in the basement under those.
I mean, it was coming after me.
Whatever that was downstairs in the basementwas coming after me because didn't like me.

Speaker C (48:27):
Literally.
Dave could barely feel like.
The crazy part is like, if I went to put theheadphones on Silent Day and you could hear it
because it's loud.
Dave barely.
He's like got the headphones above his headand he's just starting to put them on, and all
of a sudden it's like 10 different spirits arejust jumping him and everybody's trying to

(48:49):
come through at once.
Minute he goes to put that thing on.
It's crazy.

Speaker B (48:54):
It's scary.
I mean, you know, I'm trying to do this for,
For.
For scientific to learn that, but I'm also now
learning it from a spiritual point of view.
And it's.
That's like the holy part, you know.
So on this investigation, we try not to asmuch as we can, but I had to bring my son.
We didn't have a babysitter.
He had type 1 diabetes.

(49:15):
So it was making sure, you know, bills couldbe taken care of.
He had his.
He's a teenager.
He was down there playing his video games on
his.
On his, you know, computer and all that type
of stuff.
And all of a sudden I hear under the
microphones, I got him.
And you know, I say that out and, you know,Spencer asks, who do you guys.
Jensen.

(49:35):
That's my son's name.
No, I've never ripped stuff off my head andfast.
So I Flew down that flight of stairs.
Jesse looked at me.
She's like, what?And I'm like, is he okay?
You know, and he wasn't listening.
He didn't know.
And he's like, yeah, he's over there justplaying on his game.
And I'm like, okay.
And she's like, why?What happened?

(49:55):
And I told her what happened.
And that's the point.
We made the determination.
We can't do this anymore here.
Especially at that point, because Tiffany hadleft.
Jesse was messaging her.
But we made the decision to call another
person, in which I have my opinions on, butwe'll leave it at that.
But I had, you know, at that point, it was formy wife and kids and that safety.

(50:18):
So I took that step to call him for help.
Some things were validated that Tiffany had
said the night before, which is even morescarier from a spiritual point of view.

Speaker A (50:28):
Right.

Speaker B (50:29):
But at that point, we just decided, you know what?
We can't go back to this place anymore.
It's gotten to the point where it's not.
It's.
It's.
It's.
You can call it a haunted location or
whatever.
I mean,
at that time, I was like, it was a portal ofhell.
It just.
If you're attacking and constantly attacking
people there, it would.
It's not to go there.

(50:51):
Something bad's going to happen to you.

Speaker C (50:54):
After what happened to them that night, and they called me, and they were on
the.
You know, driving home in the middle of the
night after that,
I.
I felt something visit me in my house,
and I was like,
you know, lit up some sage, lit up someincense, like, get out, whatever you are.
Because it didn't feel good.
Proceeding after that,

(51:15):
this entity continued to mess with Jess andDave, and there would be times where Jess can
hear it mimic Dave's voice when he's not evenhome.

Speaker B (51:24):
What?

Speaker C (51:25):
Yeah. Making phone calls from Dave's work that Dave never made.
Like, just a lot of weird, crazy things.
A lot of different things.

Speaker B (51:34):
There's a dark, you know, spirit that's been there for so long.
This was.
Was demon to that point.
And I'm comfortable saying that because I cansay that honestly for myself and.

Speaker C (51:45):
What I saw and from what I had seen, what we had experienced and just seen
how it latched on to people.
Obviously, we're not the only ones.
We're not the only ones.
We're just the ones who are aware.

Speaker A (51:57):
Right?

Speaker C (51:57):
Because most people.
Most investigators just kind of go in and
they're going looking for evidence.
They're not actually tuned in to what's around
them.
That day I did my walkthrough the very first
time.
You know, Dave mentioned the washer dryer roomin the basement and how he saw that shadow
come out of there.
The day I had seen that, I said, something
comes and goes from this hole.
Something comes and goes.
There's several portals in that house now

(52:19):
originally, and they can come at me if theywant.
I really don't mind because this is just true.
Originally, we reached out to the owner of
that house to tell them about our experienceand how it followed us and how you can cleanse
negativity and bad things out of a homewithout hurting the spirits who belong to the

(52:39):
place.
You know, because we've done that at manylocations.
It's not, it's to remove negative energy iswhat it is to do.
So we reached out to the owner to explain whathad been going on, ask if anything else had
been going on, and to ask if we could haveconsent to cleanse it.
And we would book the place and we would goand we would cleanse it.

(53:00):
We were gaslit the entire conversation.
We were gas and any, and I want to say this,
anything demonic,
if you're doing what something demonic wantsyou to do,
yeah, things are going to be going good foryou.
The minute you stop doing what it wants you todo or you're unable to do what it wants you to
do, your life will go to **** like it will.
You will become its next source of food.

(53:21):
So right now the owner is just kind of like
more than happy to make food money off of thisdemon house, call it the demon house and talk
about all this activity and things there.
She told us on the phone that, yeah, she goton EVP that Fred and Minnie were asking for
help and said that there were portals in thehouse, yet refused to believe me when I said

(53:42):
there were portals in the house.
On top of that told us that we were the onlyones who have ever had a problem there.
Well, we actually just found out the other daythere was, was it a paranormal team who went
there?

Speaker B (53:52):
Paranormal team.
And then somebody.
Alphabet.
Yeah, something happened to their kid.
Very similar to the same incident of coming
after saying it's got my kid.
So there's a pattern now.

Speaker A (54:04):
And Right.

Speaker C (54:05):
And on top of that,
you know, we, we have, we looked at the postand I, I, my mind was just blown because of
what happened to that child.
And you know, the mom who's like making the
comment and talking about how terrified theyare and how they're trying to bring Awareness
to what's actually in that house.
It's not.
It's not all copacetic anymore.

(54:25):
And that was two years prior to ourconversation with the owner.
And she told us no one ever has issues.
It's just us.

Speaker A (54:33):
Yeah.

Speaker C (54:35):
Whoever chooses to go to the house needs to be careful because that is no longer
a historical thing.
It has become a demonic house with all the
portals in there.
It's just going to bring in.
It's just going to keep bringing more and more
and more.

Speaker B (54:49):
Even the history of that town that we found out about that town is saturated with
darkness.
You know, just.
I mean, it's too long to a story to share, but
I would love to share it sometime.
But just even that town, because our team was
given access to the whole town if we wantedit, where we could investigate all the areas.

(55:10):
We did some small things and some of thebuildings there and what we heard about the
land in some areas.
This isn't a regular town.
This is.
This is.

Speaker A (55:23):
Yeah, I'd love to hear more sometime.

Speaker C (55:25):
I do want to add this quick.
The very first time that I went to that house,when everything was, you know, normal,
you know that Chase Lounge, the lady was like,come sit down with me.
So me and my student were waiting for Jess andDave to get back,
and I'm like, really sleepy.
So I was like, man, I need some coffee.
Like, I. And I don't really drink coffee, butI'm like craving coffee all of a sudden.

(55:47):
And, you know, it's not the best reception inthe house, but I had reception.
And so it's a tiny town.
And I'm like trying to Google it.
Like, hey, coffee shops near me.
And then there was one over in Monte Video.
And then all of a sudden, my phone glitched.
My phone glitched.
Not exits me out of anything.
Pulls up a completely different page.
And it was the cafe.

(56:07):
So she's like, well, you know, that's justaround the corner.
So we went over to the coffee cafe to grab acup of coffee, and the girl who was working
there used to live in the house.
And she was like, I got stories for you guys.
And I was like, well, don't tell me, like
anything that I. I don't need to know rightnow.
But she was like, there's been so muchactivity.
I've got stories this, this and that.
So when we went back, we actually sat down

(56:29):
with her to interview her because we weretrying to do, like a historical thing for the
town.

Speaker A (56:34):
Yeah.

Speaker C (56:34):
And she kept changing her story.
She kept changing like, she owned up to own up
to it now.
So I feel like either she's just reallyterrified what's in there, or she's had some
memories come back of what's over there andjust doesn't want to talk about it.

Speaker A (56:47):
Yeah, but no, that sounds.

Speaker C (56:48):
So there's a lot of inconsistencies.
The thing there will definitely latch ontopeople and God knows what else is in that
house now.

Speaker B (56:59):
Wow.

Speaker C (57:00):
I. The only.
Sorry.
The only other thing I can compare to whatthat house is becoming is recently we went to
Edinburgh Manor.
Edinburgh Manor, Dave?
Edinburgh.

Speaker A (57:12):
Sorry, Iowa. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker C (57:14):
And,
you know, I picked up stuff there and that.
Like, there is, I think online everybody calls
him the Joker.
He's an orderly with blond hair.
When I first did my walkthrough by myself, orI don't know, Dave was with me for a little
bit, but he kept following me.
You followed?
And I like.
And again, it felt like he was just observing,
just watching, observing and watching.

(57:35):
Seeing what I'm doing.
And then when we got to the basement, Dave had
me do a couple of things.
Then we go into this other room and he.
He's like, well, is there anything specificyou get in this room?
And I was just kind of like, ah, I don't know.
And so how it works with me sometimes, too,
if people give me a word, I get a download orI get a phrase or I get an instant, like,

(57:57):
something.
So Dave's like, anything?
And I'm like, I'm not sure.
You know, again,
just see this dude following me, and all of asudden he's like, well, what's the first
superhero comes to mind?Instantly I hear Batman, but I also love
Batman.
So I'm like, ah, Dave, I don't really know if
I can validate that.
And then he's like, okay, how about a villain?And instantly I hear Joker.
And I'm like, joker.
And he's just kind of like, oh, that's

(58:18):
interesting.
And then all of a sudden, this dude who'd beenfollowing me, his whole demeanor switched.
His whole demeanor switched.
Like, if you ever watched Happy Gilmore, the
orderly is taking care of the grandma.
And he's like, oh, so sweet.
Oh, so nice.
And, you know.
And then Adam Sandler leaves.
He's like, yeah, good idea.
Like that kind of orderly.

(58:39):
Okay. Just. But darker.
And, you know, So I was like, holy moly.
So then I was like, getting some stuff.
We went over, what later that night and.
Because.
Well, actually we went up to the room where wehad all of our equipment set up and When I sat
in the chair, all of a sudden he's just behindme like this,
like, clawing at me like this, like, I likeit.

(59:00):
And I'm like, what the frick?Like, what is going on here?
You know?And I tell him about it and everything.
Later that night, we get in the basement.
We were doing the Delco Estes method.
Dave starts picking some stuff over in thishallway.
And, like, the energy in the room changed.
Stuff got really heavy and really dark.
And I don't remember if we heard something
further back, but we got up, Dave and I got upand we started to walk down that way and we

(59:23):
had our flashlights on.
And my arm moved and I saw blood.
And I looked at my wrist.
I had been cut on my wrist and I had a needle
pin ***** up here on my arm.
Same arm.
All this injuries on the same arm.
So pin ***** up here, bleeding, a cut here.
And then on my pinky was cut.

Speaker B (59:40):
Wow.

Speaker C (59:41):
And I'm like, when did this happen? Like, I never even felt it.
And it was pretty fresh, like, within a fewminutes.
So, you know, we found out later.
I found.
Well, I found out later that people had beenscratched and intact there like that.
As that night progressed, we started to getsome crazy stuff on audio.
And I saw some stuff where I was like, thereis demonic stuff here.

(01:00:03):
And it's like, I can't describe this to youbetter right now, but it was so strong, it was
so heavy that I was like, at that point of, Iknow it knows I know it's here.
We've already acknowledged each other.
Specifically, this demonic entity, it operates
through a camouflage of a little girl withbrown hair.

Speaker B (01:00:24):
Hmm.

Speaker C (01:00:26):
So I don't know how many people have seen that little girl, but that is not
the real little girl.
There is another one there who is genuine, but
that entity portrays itself through the girlwith brown hair.
And then something shifted and we stoppedgetting information because Jess was doing the
questioning.
And I think that the Joker got so upset that
he ran to Daddy because it went dead silent.

(01:00:49):
And I have never seen.
I've seen things my entire life, but I've
never seen something to this extent.
Extent.
It was like everything was coming out of theboiler room and it was just flooding down the
hallway.
All I could see is black shapes of entitiesclawing on walls, floors, roofs, just coming
down that hallway to us.
And I just immediately was like, yep, no,

(01:01:10):
we're done, we're done.
Like, we're.
We're leaving right now.
And I stood up and I'm like, in My head.
I'm like, y' all can follow me, or I'm leaving
this building.
Because,
yeah,
I.
I am a strong medium and spiritualist,
but I was not prepared for something likethat.

(01:01:30):
That place is a hot house, and I see the Boydhouse turning into that.

Speaker B (01:01:35):
Wow.

Speaker A (01:01:35):
That is amazing.
You know,
you.
You guys have been great.
We. We've gone a little bit over here.
I really appreciate it.
I could talk to you guys for hours.
We'll have to do a part three here.

Speaker B (01:01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:01:51):
Because there's just so much cool stuff.

Speaker B (01:01:54):
Wow.

Speaker A (01:01:54):
Thanks for the nightmares, by the way.

Speaker C (01:01:57):
You're welcome.
Just sleep with some selenite under your
pillow.

Speaker A (01:02:00):
Oh, there we go.
Thank you for that.
So.

Speaker C (01:02:02):
Merry Halloween.

Speaker A (01:02:04):
Thank you so much.
Yeah, we'll have to do a part three here
because, yeah, I have something coming up heresoon, but.
Wow. That's all I can say is wow, guys.
Yeah, like I said, nightmares.
Thanks for that.
But before we wrap up here, what do you guyshave coming up?
Any.

Speaker B (01:02:20):
We have actually have a. A big event coming up that the weekend of November
8th.
We are going to be hosting an event at Malvern
Manor to raise money for type 1 diabetes.

Speaker A (01:02:31):
Nice.

Speaker B (01:02:32):
That disease has hit our family and has also hit Tiffany's family personally.
There's a lot of investigation, and if peoplewant to the opportunity to investigate with
us, it's $65 a ticket, and they get to hangout Saturday night with us at Malvern Manor.
And then if they don't but they still want tomake donations, they can get in touch with us

(01:02:55):
by our Instagram page or Facebook and stufflike that.
We'll get in touch.
But we do have a few openings left for peoplethat might want to come down on that night and
come and investigate.

Speaker A (01:03:07):
I love it.
And, you know, if these investigations are
anything like your previous investigations, ina couple, we, you know, like I said, we got to
do a part three here.

Speaker C (01:03:17):
Wow.

Speaker A (01:03:18):
You guys have blown me away.
I love it.
Yeah. I'm sorry about the boy house and someother things, but that's a part of it, right?
That's a part of investigation.
You know, you're gonna have some fun things,
some silly things,
maybe some boring things, but we do.

Speaker C (01:03:39):
We do have silly ones, though.
They're out there.

Speaker A (01:03:41):
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's something.
Like I said, I'll have to have you guys backon and.
Because I've already kept you guys longenough, but I'd love to keep you longer.
So we'll have you on again to talk about that.
And, you know, that investigation, the
Melbourne Manor.
Please reach out to David at Instagram and,
you know, take the opportunity to sign up forthat because again, that sounds really

(01:04:04):
interesting and you're in good hands withDavid and snacks and stuff will be provided.

Speaker B (01:04:10):
There you go.

Speaker A (01:04:12):
Yeah. And he has a great team and hopefully, Tiffany, you can make it and be
there too.

Speaker C (01:04:16):
I'm definitely going to be there.

Speaker A (01:04:18):
That would.
That would be awesome.
Again, I can't thank you guys enough.
This is one of my best episodes and I. And I
look forward to having you guys on again.
I don't appreciate the nightmares, but likeyou said, I'll sleep with under my pillow and
stuff.
So again, thank you guys so much.
I really appreciate you go over time with meand I love this.
And like I said, I gotta have you guys back onagain.

(01:04:41):
I can't get enough.

Speaker B (01:04:42):
We love talking about it, so anytime you want, just give us a call.

Speaker A (01:04:45):
I will.
David and Tiffany, thanks you so much.
Stay strong, girl.

Speaker C (01:04:50):
All right, thanks.

Speaker A (01:04:52):
All right, well, thanks, guys.
I really appreciate you again taking the time
out here and stay spooky.

Speaker C (01:05:05):
It.