October 3, 2025 • 16 mins
Welcome back to Nightland Frights—the darker, twisted shadow of Dairyland Frights. Tonight, we step into homes that don’t want to be empty, homes where the dead don’t sleep… and homes that may already be watching you.
In this episode:
- Paranormal investigator Brandon Kramer (Appleton, WI) shares 10 ways to tell if your house is haunted, from cold spots to dream visitations.
- We uncover the chilling history of the Octagon House in Fond du Lac, a place filled with hidden tunnels, tragic stories, and reports of ghostly children still at play.
- A listener shares their terrifying personal haunting—complete with shadowy figures, whispers in the night, and a playful spirit named Henry who might not be as harmless as he seems.
Whether it’s footsteps behind you, shadows in the corner of your eye, or that heavy feeling you just can’t shake—tonight’s episode will make you question what’s really inside your home.
👻 Do you think your house might be haunted? Listen and find out.
🔗 Follow Brandon on TikTok: @realghosthunter1 🔗 More Wisconsin paranormal at: Wisconsin Frights
Sleep… if you can.
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Speaker A (00:00):
Sam.
Speaker B (00:31):
Welcome to Nightland Frights, the darker, twisted version of sister podcast
Dairyland Frights.
Imagine walking through your house aftermidnight.
The lights are off, the rooms are still,
but something feels wrong.
The air presses down heavily than usual.
(00:53):
You swear you hear footsteps behind you,
but when you turn,
no one's there.
That's the way it begins.
A flicker of movement in the corner of youreye,
a shadow where there shouldn't be one.
The kind of things you tell yourself aretricks of the mind.
Until they aren't.
(01:14):
Tonight,
on Nightland,
the darker, twisted shadow of DairylandFrights,
we're stepping into homes that don't want tobe empty,
homes where the dead don't sleep,
and homes that may already be watching you.
Speaker A (01:32):
10 ways to tell if your house is haunted Paranormal investigator Brandon Kramer
from Appleton, Wisconsin has built a followingon TikTok, sharing ghost stories and evidence
from his ghost hunting experiences,
and his latest video will help you determineif you have ghosts.
So you think your house might be haunted?
Well, here are some signs that you might beright,
(01:54):
brandon says.
But if you get five or more, I may have somebad news for you.
1.
Uneasy feelings in your home do you feel likesomeone is watching you or just get generally
creepy vibes around your house?
This is often one of the first things younotice in a haunted place,
(02:15):
even if it's only on a subconscious level tobegin with.
And it may indicate the presence of somethingin the home that you can't see.
In the case of the Tallman haunting inHoricon, Alan Tallman described a growing
sense of unease in the garage.
He felt like something was watching andwaiting for him there, Cult of Weird writes.
(02:35):
When he closed the door, he said he felt likehe was shutting himself in a tomb.
2.
Unexplained odors have you noticed strangesmells that shouldn't be there?
Often in a particular spot in your home, or ata certain time,
maybe even regularly,
do you suddenly catch the scent of somethingfamiliar that invokes a childhood memory, like
(02:57):
Grandma's perfume or coffee?
3.
Weird noises do you hear unexplained sounds orvoices in your home?
Does it seem like something is trying to getyour attention?
The sounds may happen at the same time everyday or seem to be a response to something else
happening around you.
4.
Flashes of light if you keep seeing a brightflash of light in your home in the same place
(03:22):
and time, that may be a sign of a haunting.
5. Cold spots sure, your house may have draftsor the heat might not work as well in one
room,
but do you experience unexplained cold spotsin your home?
Paranormal investigators say ghosts requireenergy to manifest,
so they will often draw heat from the air.
(03:43):
While filming the Amityville Horror inWisconsin, the cast and crew described feeling
an otherworldly presence in the 140-year-oldhouse that was accompanied by cold spots and
sudden chills.
6.
Electric glitches do your lights, TVs,appliances,
or other electronic devices frequently turn onand off on their own?
(04:06):
Maybe batteries won't stay charged in acertain room,
but they work just fine in others.
This can be a sign of otherworldly energy atwork in your home.
7.
Seeing things do you have visions?See shadows or movement from the corner of
your eye, but when you look over, it's gone?
8.
Missing or moved objects do things go missingin your home,
(04:30):
only to turn up later in the most unlikely ofplaces with no explanation of how they got
there?
Sure, maybe you somehow put it there andforgot,
but maybe you didn't.
9.
Strange dreams are you experiencing bizarredreams you've never had before?
Maybe meeting a new, unfamiliar person in yourdreams?
(04:52):
These are called dream visitations, and it maynot actually be a dream.
10.
Being touched do you experience the sensationof someone touching you, but there's no one
there?
If you replied yes to five or more of these,Brandon says,
I expect you to ask me some questions.
Follow Brandon on TikTok at realghosthunter1and Wisconsin frights at Wisconsin Frights.
Speaker B (05:18):
The Octagon House A real Life Haunted.
Speaker A (05:20):
House the Octagon House, considered to be one of the most haunted places in Fond
du Lac, is located in the historic district at276 Lyndon Street.
It was built in 1856 by Isaac Brown,
the first mayor of Fond du Lac, on the site ofan established settlement and trading post.
At the time, it stood alone on the edge ofmarshland with nothing but wild territory
(05:43):
beyond.
The octagonal home includes four rooms on thefirst floor and seven rooms on the second,
built around a central staircase.
But the house is also filled with secrets,
nine of them, to be exact, such as the falsefireplace in the parlor that conceals a small
wooden stairway.
According to the Wisconsin Historical Societyproperty record,
(06:06):
it leads to a basement tunnel and then to theriver.
A small storage room is concealed beneath theporch.
A crawl space hides behind panels of fakedrawers in an upstairs bedroom that leads into
a secret room.
There, a message scratched into the wall,dated 1888, seems to give directions to the
next safehouse along the path of theUnderground Railroad.
(06:28):
Some believe Brown built these features to aidin the escape of runaway slaves on their
journey north to freedom in Ontario.
Others contend that the Underground Railroaddidn't extend as far north as Fond du Lac,
that slaves came to Wisconsin through placeslike the milton house about 90 miles south,
and then quickly departed from Racine, Kenoshaor Milwaukee.
Speaker B (06:50):
Another rumor is that Brown built the house as a fort in which he could hide in
the event of an attack by the Native Americansdwelling in the untamed lands on the other
side of the river.
During the Prohibition era, when the USGovernment banned the production and sale of
alcohol across the country,
bootlegging was widespread in Fond du Lac.
The city's reputation earned it the nicknameLittle Chicago in reference to its
(07:15):
enterprising neighbor to the south, wheregangsters like Bugs Moran and Al Capone ran
massive operations in the trade of illicitbooze.
Some academics believe the secret spaceswithin the Octagon House were built during
that time for the clandestine storage andtransportation of liquor.
The real reason for the secret rooms andtunnels may never be known for sure.
(07:36):
When Isaac's son Edwin married the daughter ofthe influential Pier family,
Isaac gave the house to the happy couple as awedding gift.
Edwin and his wife Ruth raised three children,
Louay, Edward and Hattie, there.
When the Civil War broke out in 1861, Edwinjoined his friend Edward Bragg on the
(07:57):
battlefield fighting for the Union.
Edwin would not make it back home to his youngwife and children.
He died on September 17, 1862,
with thousands more at the Battle of Antietam,
the deadliest one day battle in Americanmilitary history.
He is buried in Rienzi Cemetery.
Edwin, Ruth and their children are longdeceased, but for those who have had
(08:20):
experiences in the Octagon House, they neverleft.
Residents and visitors alike have reportedbeing touched by cold, unseen hands and
invisible forces pushing them down the stairs.
They've heard the sounds of the Brown childrenplaying.
More than 150 years after they occupied thehome,
(08:40):
Ruth and other full apparitions have beenknown to appear from time to time.
Eyes stare out from the dark in the cellarwhere the hidden tunnel enters the house.
I regard Octagon House as being possessed bythe spirit world,
longtime owner Marlene Hansen said in 1976.
Marlene, a former circus trapeze artist,dancer and costume maker, bought the house in
(09:04):
1975 and owned it for over 40 years.
In 2010,
she filmed an episode of American Pickers inthe house.
Marlene believes Ruth and the children arerestless because they haven't come to terms
with Edwin's death,
why he left them and didn't Return alive.
(09:24):
It isn't a case of believing.
It's a case of experiencing.
Hansen told a news crew while speaking aboutour encounters in the house.
None of us know what's on the other side.
Speaker A (09:37):
Scary clips from Dairyland frights.
Speaker C (11:01):
And the last time I saw something was definitely that darker.
That darker presence, which.
That one, I think, scared me more than the
story.
My w. My daughter told me that one's the most
recent one I had.
Definitely scared me, for sure.
I would say that we tend to experience thingsin the colder months between,
let's say, November and February, so.
Well, you know, there's something I didn't
tell you, and that's that we found a smallgraveyard about 75ft off the side of the
(11:29):
house.
So one day I was.
I don't even remember what I was looking for,
but I. Anyway, I managed to find, like, a.
Just a Google map.
Maps image of our house, of our property.
And I noticed that there was a cemetery marker
in the field next to our.
Next to our house.
Now that that field is not on our property.
At least it isn't right now.
And I was looking at it, I was like, there's
no. There's no headstones out there.
(11:50):
There's no grave markers out there.
There's.
It's just a flat field that cows roam on and
they graze, and that's it.
Well, that night we got home, and I took myboys in a flashlight and said, hey, we're
gonna go find.
Gonna go find a cemetery, guys.
And they were like, what?
And so I showed them the map and the head.
So I don't know if it's residual in that.
(12:11):
There's never been a real consistent timewhere we've experienced stuff.
So there have been times where my son willwalk out of a room and he'll, like,
flinch, like, whoa.
Like something's there.
And he said, dad, I saw this little boy out ofthe corner of my eye.
He was standing in the corner, and then he'sgone, right?
And so I think we sort of chalk it up to.
(12:32):
I don't know if they're trying to communicatesomething, but we think there are possibly two
types of spirit in the house.
One, that's this little boy.
We call him Henry.
He's sort of playful, almost startles us, butdoesn't scare us.
You know, it's almost like,
dude, what are you doing?Like, don't.
If you're gonna hang out, don't hang out in acorner and scare us.
But then there's this other thing, and theOther thing is more brooding.
(12:55):
It's a little darker.
It's the thing that we think was banging on my
daughter's door.
Um, there have been times where I'll bewashing dishes in the kitchen and I'll.
I'll feel a shadow come over me from behind.
And it just.
Though that one scares us.
My wife has heard something whisper in herear, like her name in her ear at night.
Speaker A (13:13):
That.
Speaker C (13:14):
That one scares us.
There's never been a time where we've
experienced that, where we've thought it wasplayful, where we always respond in fear to
that one.
And so, yeah, Henry happens more often.
Maybe once,
twice a month.
We. One of us has a Henry sighting, and then
the darker one doesn't happen that frequently,
but it's definitely more memorable.
(13:34):
It sticks with us a whole lot longer.
Speaker D (13:36):
I. Yeah. Have you brought in a medium, Investigators, paranormal
investigators, anything like that to seewhat's going on?
Speaker C (13:45):
We haven't, and we've thought about it, but we haven't.
We haven't as of yet.
Yeah.
Speaker D (13:51):
Yeah. That's interesting, because I know some people do and some people don't, and
that's totally your prerogative of what youwant to do.
Because again,
I think it's, you know, the mediums Iinterview and stuff, like, they always tell me
I'm not there to scare people.
I'm not there to make their lives worse or
(14:12):
anything.
I'm just there to give them information.
Like, sure, there's, you know, they'll tellme, like, there's one spirit,
you know, it's a little boy.
Like you said, they're just mischievous.
He's, you know, he just likes to have fun.
The other spirit maybe isn't.
And, you know, and.
And I've always asked, like, how do you relate
(14:34):
to the person in the house that you don'tscare them?
Right.
This very sensitive information.
And they said that's the hardest part of theirjob.
Because a lot of people will be like, well,what do you mean it's evil?
What do you mean?You know,
and most of the time they're like, you don'tbother it.
It won't bother you.
Or, you know, and if it does get to a certain
(14:56):
extent,
where unfortunately harm is coming to yourfamily, then, you know, they find the right.
The right people to come in there.
And that's not easy either because everyone
sees the movies and like, an exorcism, like,they just come walking in there.
Yeah, let's do their exorcism.
No, you gotta go through a long process andlike,
(15:20):
have this approval.
And. And.
Yeah, and that's why most of the times,
most.
Speaker A (15:26):
If you heard your own story in tonight's list, the cold spots, the whispers.
Speaker D (15:30):
The shadows, does the trick.
Speaker A (15:32):
Don't be too quick to dismiss them.
Most hauntings don't announce themselves allat once,
and they feed on the moments you try toconvince yourself it was nothing.
So tonight, when you turn out the lights.
Because if you've ever wondered whetheryou're.
Speaker D (15:45):
Truly alone, you probably aren't.
Speaker A (15:49):
This has been Nightland.
Speaker D (15:50):
Fright sleep, if you can.
You know, here's some people to help.
But at the end of the day, you have to decidewhether you're going to stay.
Right.
And for sure determine what you're going tostay.
Speaker C (16:00):
And I think for us, that's been.
The thing is that it happens so infrequently,
and it always catches us by surprise.
It's never a thing where we're expecting it,
right?And so it's almost like, all right, well, you
know, so, like, my boys will see Henry, youknow, in a corner as they're turning into a
room, and it's like, dad, what do we do?
And it's like, nothing.
I don't think you can do anything, but, like,you know, just don't.
(16:22):
Don't,
you know, don't.
Don't be super afraid.
I mean, I know it's startling, but, you know,don't give it.
Don't give it energy, that kind of thing.
And,
you know, so it's.
It's been a few months, I want to say.
Speaker D (16:35):
Yeah. Okay, good.
Speaker C (16:37):
Maybe.
Maybe four or five months since we've seen
anything.
And the last time I saw something was
definitely that darker.
That darker presence, which.
That one, I think, scared me more than the
story my daughter told me.
That one's the most recent one I had.
Definitely scared me, for sure.
Sam.
Speaker B (00:31):
Welcome to Nightland Frights, the darker, twisted version of sister podcast
Dairyland Frights.
Imagine walking through your house aftermidnight.
The lights are off, the rooms are still,
but something feels wrong.
The air presses down heavily than usual.
(00:53):
You swear you hear footsteps behind you,
but when you turn,
no one's there.
That's the way it begins.
A flicker of movement in the corner of youreye,
a shadow where there shouldn't be one.
The kind of things you tell yourself aretricks of the mind.
Until they aren't.
(01:14):
Tonight,
on Nightland,
the darker, twisted shadow of DairylandFrights,
we're stepping into homes that don't want tobe empty,
homes where the dead don't sleep,
and homes that may already be watching you.
Speaker A (01:32):
10 ways to tell if your house is haunted Paranormal investigator Brandon Kramer
from Appleton, Wisconsin has built a followingon TikTok, sharing ghost stories and evidence
from his ghost hunting experiences,
and his latest video will help you determineif you have ghosts.
So you think your house might be haunted?
Well, here are some signs that you might beright,
(01:54):
brandon says.
But if you get five or more, I may have somebad news for you.
1.
Uneasy feelings in your home do you feel likesomeone is watching you or just get generally
creepy vibes around your house?
This is often one of the first things younotice in a haunted place,
(02:15):
even if it's only on a subconscious level tobegin with.
And it may indicate the presence of somethingin the home that you can't see.
In the case of the Tallman haunting inHoricon, Alan Tallman described a growing
sense of unease in the garage.
He felt like something was watching andwaiting for him there, Cult of Weird writes.
(02:35):
When he closed the door, he said he felt likehe was shutting himself in a tomb.
2.
Unexplained odors have you noticed strangesmells that shouldn't be there?
Often in a particular spot in your home, or ata certain time,
maybe even regularly,
do you suddenly catch the scent of somethingfamiliar that invokes a childhood memory, like
(02:57):
Grandma's perfume or coffee?
3.
Weird noises do you hear unexplained sounds orvoices in your home?
Does it seem like something is trying to getyour attention?
The sounds may happen at the same time everyday or seem to be a response to something else
happening around you.
4.
Flashes of light if you keep seeing a brightflash of light in your home in the same place
(03:22):
and time, that may be a sign of a haunting.
5. Cold spots sure, your house may have draftsor the heat might not work as well in one
room,
but do you experience unexplained cold spotsin your home?
Paranormal investigators say ghosts requireenergy to manifest,
so they will often draw heat from the air.
(03:43):
While filming the Amityville Horror inWisconsin, the cast and crew described feeling
an otherworldly presence in the 140-year-oldhouse that was accompanied by cold spots and
sudden chills.
6.
Electric glitches do your lights, TVs,appliances,
or other electronic devices frequently turn onand off on their own?
(04:06):
Maybe batteries won't stay charged in acertain room,
but they work just fine in others.
This can be a sign of otherworldly energy atwork in your home.
7.
Seeing things do you have visions?See shadows or movement from the corner of
your eye, but when you look over, it's gone?
8.
Missing or moved objects do things go missingin your home,
(04:30):
only to turn up later in the most unlikely ofplaces with no explanation of how they got
there?
Sure, maybe you somehow put it there andforgot,
but maybe you didn't.
9.
Strange dreams are you experiencing bizarredreams you've never had before?
Maybe meeting a new, unfamiliar person in yourdreams?
(04:52):
These are called dream visitations, and it maynot actually be a dream.
10.
Being touched do you experience the sensationof someone touching you, but there's no one
there?
If you replied yes to five or more of these,Brandon says,
I expect you to ask me some questions.
Follow Brandon on TikTok at realghosthunter1and Wisconsin frights at Wisconsin Frights.
Speaker B (05:18):
The Octagon House A real Life Haunted.
Speaker A (05:20):
House the Octagon House, considered to be one of the most haunted places in Fond
du Lac, is located in the historic district at276 Lyndon Street.
It was built in 1856 by Isaac Brown,
the first mayor of Fond du Lac, on the site ofan established settlement and trading post.
At the time, it stood alone on the edge ofmarshland with nothing but wild territory
(05:43):
beyond.
The octagonal home includes four rooms on thefirst floor and seven rooms on the second,
built around a central staircase.
But the house is also filled with secrets,
nine of them, to be exact, such as the falsefireplace in the parlor that conceals a small
wooden stairway.
According to the Wisconsin Historical Societyproperty record,
(06:06):
it leads to a basement tunnel and then to theriver.
A small storage room is concealed beneath theporch.
A crawl space hides behind panels of fakedrawers in an upstairs bedroom that leads into
a secret room.
There, a message scratched into the wall,dated 1888, seems to give directions to the
next safehouse along the path of theUnderground Railroad.
(06:28):
Some believe Brown built these features to aidin the escape of runaway slaves on their
journey north to freedom in Ontario.
Others contend that the Underground Railroaddidn't extend as far north as Fond du Lac,
that slaves came to Wisconsin through placeslike the milton house about 90 miles south,
and then quickly departed from Racine, Kenoshaor Milwaukee.
Speaker B (06:50):
Another rumor is that Brown built the house as a fort in which he could hide in
the event of an attack by the Native Americansdwelling in the untamed lands on the other
side of the river.
During the Prohibition era, when the USGovernment banned the production and sale of
alcohol across the country,
bootlegging was widespread in Fond du Lac.
The city's reputation earned it the nicknameLittle Chicago in reference to its
(07:15):
enterprising neighbor to the south, wheregangsters like Bugs Moran and Al Capone ran
massive operations in the trade of illicitbooze.
Some academics believe the secret spaceswithin the Octagon House were built during
that time for the clandestine storage andtransportation of liquor.
The real reason for the secret rooms andtunnels may never be known for sure.
(07:36):
When Isaac's son Edwin married the daughter ofthe influential Pier family,
Isaac gave the house to the happy couple as awedding gift.
Edwin and his wife Ruth raised three children,
Louay, Edward and Hattie, there.
When the Civil War broke out in 1861, Edwinjoined his friend Edward Bragg on the
(07:57):
battlefield fighting for the Union.
Edwin would not make it back home to his youngwife and children.
He died on September 17, 1862,
with thousands more at the Battle of Antietam,
the deadliest one day battle in Americanmilitary history.
He is buried in Rienzi Cemetery.
Edwin, Ruth and their children are longdeceased, but for those who have had
(08:20):
experiences in the Octagon House, they neverleft.
Residents and visitors alike have reportedbeing touched by cold, unseen hands and
invisible forces pushing them down the stairs.
They've heard the sounds of the Brown childrenplaying.
More than 150 years after they occupied thehome,
(08:40):
Ruth and other full apparitions have beenknown to appear from time to time.
Eyes stare out from the dark in the cellarwhere the hidden tunnel enters the house.
I regard Octagon House as being possessed bythe spirit world,
longtime owner Marlene Hansen said in 1976.
Marlene, a former circus trapeze artist,dancer and costume maker, bought the house in
(09:04):
1975 and owned it for over 40 years.
In 2010,
she filmed an episode of American Pickers inthe house.
Marlene believes Ruth and the children arerestless because they haven't come to terms
with Edwin's death,
why he left them and didn't Return alive.
(09:24):
It isn't a case of believing.
It's a case of experiencing.
Hansen told a news crew while speaking aboutour encounters in the house.
None of us know what's on the other side.
Speaker A (09:37):
Scary clips from Dairyland frights.
Speaker C (11:01):
And the last time I saw something was definitely that darker.
That darker presence, which.
That one, I think, scared me more than the
story.
My w. My daughter told me that one's the most
recent one I had.
Definitely scared me, for sure.
I would say that we tend to experience thingsin the colder months between,
let's say, November and February, so.
Well, you know, there's something I didn't
tell you, and that's that we found a smallgraveyard about 75ft off the side of the
(11:29):
house.
So one day I was.
I don't even remember what I was looking for,
but I. Anyway, I managed to find, like, a.
Just a Google map.
Maps image of our house, of our property.
And I noticed that there was a cemetery marker
in the field next to our.
Next to our house.
Now that that field is not on our property.
At least it isn't right now.
And I was looking at it, I was like, there's
no. There's no headstones out there.
(11:50):
There's no grave markers out there.
There's.
It's just a flat field that cows roam on and
they graze, and that's it.
Well, that night we got home, and I took myboys in a flashlight and said, hey, we're
gonna go find.
Gonna go find a cemetery, guys.
And they were like, what?
And so I showed them the map and the head.
So I don't know if it's residual in that.
(12:11):
There's never been a real consistent timewhere we've experienced stuff.
So there have been times where my son willwalk out of a room and he'll, like,
flinch, like, whoa.
Like something's there.
And he said, dad, I saw this little boy out ofthe corner of my eye.
He was standing in the corner, and then he'sgone, right?
And so I think we sort of chalk it up to.
(12:32):
I don't know if they're trying to communicatesomething, but we think there are possibly two
types of spirit in the house.
One, that's this little boy.
We call him Henry.
He's sort of playful, almost startles us, butdoesn't scare us.
You know, it's almost like,
dude, what are you doing?Like, don't.
If you're gonna hang out, don't hang out in acorner and scare us.
But then there's this other thing, and theOther thing is more brooding.
(12:55):
It's a little darker.
It's the thing that we think was banging on my
daughter's door.
Um, there have been times where I'll bewashing dishes in the kitchen and I'll.
I'll feel a shadow come over me from behind.
And it just.
Though that one scares us.
My wife has heard something whisper in herear, like her name in her ear at night.
Speaker A (13:13):
That.
Speaker C (13:14):
That one scares us.
There's never been a time where we've
experienced that, where we've thought it wasplayful, where we always respond in fear to
that one.
And so, yeah, Henry happens more often.
Maybe once,
twice a month.
We. One of us has a Henry sighting, and then
the darker one doesn't happen that frequently,
but it's definitely more memorable.
(13:34):
It sticks with us a whole lot longer.
Speaker D (13:36):
I. Yeah. Have you brought in a medium, Investigators, paranormal
investigators, anything like that to seewhat's going on?
Speaker C (13:45):
We haven't, and we've thought about it, but we haven't.
We haven't as of yet.
Yeah.
Speaker D (13:51):
Yeah. That's interesting, because I know some people do and some people don't, and
that's totally your prerogative of what youwant to do.
Because again,
I think it's, you know, the mediums Iinterview and stuff, like, they always tell me
I'm not there to scare people.
I'm not there to make their lives worse or
(14:12):
anything.
I'm just there to give them information.
Like, sure, there's, you know, they'll tellme, like, there's one spirit,
you know, it's a little boy.
Like you said, they're just mischievous.
He's, you know, he just likes to have fun.
The other spirit maybe isn't.
And, you know, and.
And I've always asked, like, how do you relate
(14:34):
to the person in the house that you don'tscare them?
Right.
This very sensitive information.
And they said that's the hardest part of theirjob.
Because a lot of people will be like, well,what do you mean it's evil?
What do you mean?You know,
and most of the time they're like, you don'tbother it.
It won't bother you.
Or, you know, and if it does get to a certain
(14:56):
extent,
where unfortunately harm is coming to yourfamily, then, you know, they find the right.
The right people to come in there.
And that's not easy either because everyone
sees the movies and like, an exorcism, like,they just come walking in there.
Yeah, let's do their exorcism.
No, you gotta go through a long process andlike,
(15:20):
have this approval.
And. And.
Yeah, and that's why most of the times,
most.
Speaker A (15:26):
If you heard your own story in tonight's list, the cold spots, the whispers.
Speaker D (15:30):
The shadows, does the trick.
Speaker A (15:32):
Don't be too quick to dismiss them.
Most hauntings don't announce themselves allat once,
and they feed on the moments you try toconvince yourself it was nothing.
So tonight, when you turn out the lights.
Because if you've ever wondered whetheryou're.
Speaker D (15:45):
Truly alone, you probably aren't.
Speaker A (15:49):
This has been Nightland.
Speaker D (15:50):
Fright sleep, if you can.
You know, here's some people to help.
But at the end of the day, you have to decidewhether you're going to stay.
Right.
And for sure determine what you're going tostay.
Speaker C (16:00):
And I think for us, that's been.
The thing is that it happens so infrequently,
and it always catches us by surprise.
It's never a thing where we're expecting it,
right?And so it's almost like, all right, well, you
know, so, like, my boys will see Henry, youknow, in a corner as they're turning into a
room, and it's like, dad, what do we do?
And it's like, nothing.
I don't think you can do anything, but, like,you know, just don't.
(16:22):
Don't,
you know, don't.
Don't be super afraid.
I mean, I know it's startling, but, you know,don't give it.
Don't give it energy, that kind of thing.
And,
you know, so it's.
It's been a few months, I want to say.
Speaker D (16:35):
Yeah. Okay, good.
Speaker C (16:37):
Maybe.
Maybe four or five months since we've seen
anything.
And the last time I saw something was
definitely that darker.
That darker presence, which.
That one, I think, scared me more than the
story my daughter told me.
That one's the most recent one I had.
Definitely scared me, for sure.
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