True Urban Legends with guests Sirens of the Supernatural

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Speaker A (00:00):
Foreign.
And welcome to another episode of Daily onFrights, the paranormal podcast that covers
everything spooky, creepy and mysterious inthe Midwest and beyond.

(00:22):
And tonight I am again, I always have greatguests in my streak continues.
I give the longest great guest streak inpodcast history.
I'm just going to say that.
And tonight I have Rhonda and Lindsay and
hopefully Ryan soon from Sirens of theSupernatural.
Welcome.

Speaker B (00:50):
Thank you for having us.
Hey, Lister.

Speaker A (00:53):
Yes.
Yes. You know, like I. I was telling themoffline, they got great content, so please
check them out.
Go to their.
Their podcast as well as their social media,which we'll talk about before we end up here.
And we have a fun topic tonight.
We're gonna play a little bit of a fun game.
Hopefully we can, you know, figure out aboutcertain topics.
But before that little teaser, I guess I.

(01:15):
For the audience,
for my spooky friends,
why don't you guys.
Rhonda, I'll start with you.
What interested you in the paranormal, andthen if you could tell about, like, your first
paranormal experience and, like, how old youwere and what happened.

Speaker B (01:30):
Okay, well,
we're kind of a family affair at Sirens of theSupernatural.
And Ryan, who we're hoping will join usshortly, is my first cousin on my dad's side.
And we had a grandmother and great grandmotherand all kinds of other older relatives that
were very superstitious, but it was kind ofmountain superstitious because we grew up in

(01:52):
the Appalachians,
and so there was a lot of folklore and therewere.
I mean, they believed in ha and not mockingspirits and this and that.
So they told us scary stories from the time Ican remember.
And it's just.
We just grew up with that interest because of
the stories that we heard.
And we just.
We've just kind of been that way ever since.
And then Lindsay, so Ron's my first cousin.

(02:13):
Lindsay is my daughter, and I guess she justwas destined to be interested in the
supernatural with a mom like me.

Speaker C (02:22):
The DNA, I guess.

Speaker B (02:23):
Yeah,
I have.
I have had some experiences.
I've never seen an apparition, but the firstkind of paranormal or spooky or weird thing
that happened to me was when I was 12 yearsold.
I had.
That same year my grandfather on my father's
side passed away.
And I dreamed about it before it happened.
And I told.

(02:43):
I told my dad what I had dreamed and, youknow, he kind of just brushed it off,
whatever.
And then a couple days later, I was out the
road from my house with my friend who livedout there, and we were sitting and her Mother
came to the door and she called for me,
and she said,
you need to go home.
Your mom called, you need to go home.

(03:04):
And so I knew.
It hit my brain right then that my granddadhad died.
I don't know how I knew, but I ran home.
And by the time I got home, my dad was alreadygone.
And I walked in the door, and before she evensaid anything, he said, papaw died, didn't he?
And she said, yes.
And so my other grandmother on my mother'sside, when I told her this story, she said,

(03:27):
don't die.
Ever be afraid to tell someone if you have adream like that?
Because evidently in her.
In the female line of her family,
they had dreams like that.
She had dreams, and I guess her grandmother
had had dreams like that.
And so she said, if you ever have dreams like
that, just don't be afraid to tell someone.
And so that same year, I had another dreamabout my dad had married my stepmother.

(03:53):
And her father was kind of like a grandfatherto me as well.
And I dreamed that he passed.
And after that came true, I just.
It scared me.
I didn't want to have those dreams, you know,So I just was like.
I think I closed myself off to it because itscared me.
So I never had.
I've never had any dreams like that from thatpoint on.

(04:16):
But I have been growing more open to.
As I've gotten older, more open to if it's a
gift, if whatever it is.
I'm trying to be more open to it now.
So that.
That's kind of my little spill.

Speaker A (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you think you're sensitive at all, Rhonda?

Speaker B (04:33):
I think I sense, like, emotional energy more than anything.
We were.
Lindsay and I were talking about.
We went to the Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylumnumerous times, and we did their overnight
ghost tour.
And I just was.
I felt so heavy.
I felt like I had absorbed so much negativity,you know, negative emotions and negativity.

(04:54):
It took me about a week to get my mojo backbecause I'm usually happy.
Go lucky.
Positive bubbly.
And it just weighed on me.
I couldn't leave it there.
And so I think I do sense more of theemotional energy.
And Lindsay has some.
Some stories of.
Of her own as well.
She's probably had more experience experiences

(05:15):
than I have, actually.

Speaker C (05:17):
Maybe.
I don't know.

Speaker A (05:19):
So. So, Lindsay, I have to ask, was your mom reading you, like, Stephen King books
and ghost books when you're younger?Everybody's doing, like, you know, you know,
good night moon.

Speaker C (05:30):
And like, yeah, good night moon.

Speaker A (05:33):
And Red Foot Lightfoot, or whatever the heck it is.
And she's going, and the clown came out of thesewer.

Speaker C (05:40):
Yeah. And here comes Pennywise.
No.
Weirdly.
Weirdly, no. I. I remember her reading to us a
lot, but it wasn't like.
It was never scary stuff.

Speaker B (05:51):
But we did watch scary movies.
I did introduce them to, like, the original
Halloween.
The og.
Yeah, we did watch.

Speaker A (05:57):
What? What age.
I gotta know what age.
Two, three.
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker C (06:02):
I remember.
I remember one time that I had gotten up andyou were like, we have to watch this movie.
I taped this movie on pay per view.
I got it on vhs.
It's on.
I recorded it.
And we've got to watch it.
And it was the others.

Speaker B (06:17):
The others.
Yes.

Speaker A (06:19):
All right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C (06:20):
But I promise you, I was, like, maybe eight.
I was so young.
So young.
But then.

Speaker B (06:28):
Movie partner.
Okay.

Speaker A (06:29):
Yeah.

Speaker B (06:30):
And she still is to this day.

Speaker C (06:31):
Yeah. Because she said.
Because you didn't finish it the night before.
Because she was.
It was late when you were recording it, and
dad was already asleep, and you were trying toshake him awake, and he just would not.
And you were like, I can't finish it.
So then we got up the next day, and she said,exactly.
Hey, we're going to watch this movie.

Speaker A (06:47):
Let's go.
And that night, Lindsay, you had the covers
right up to here, and you were shaking.

Speaker C (06:53):
Probably just shaking in my boots.
Probably.

Speaker B (06:55):
Looking back, I guess that wasn't the best mother moment I ever had.

Speaker A (06:59):
Hey, Rhonda, do not feel bad.
I've had guests on here where they've said,
like, my dad, When I was 10, we watched theTexas Chainsaw Match Massacre.
And, you know, we watch Halloween and we watchFreddy and we watch, you know, Jason.

Speaker B (07:15):
And if Ryan was here, he would tell you about the time he watched the Exorcist
when he was four.

Speaker A (07:21):
No.

Speaker B (07:21):
Yeah.

Speaker C (07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker B (07:23):
Yes. Yep. That's still the go to scary movie.

Speaker A (07:26):
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker D (07:27):
No.

Speaker A (07:27):
I mean, that's a little too young.
I'm just.

Speaker B (07:32):
I agree.

Speaker A (07:32):
Put that out there.
Yeah.

Speaker B (07:34):
That's what's wrong with him.

Speaker A (07:37):
Before you tell your experiences, Lindsay, has your mom ever gone like, lindsay,
right behind you.
There's a ghost, there's a spirit.
Don't worry.
It's okay.
You're gonna be fine.

Speaker D (07:48):
No.

Speaker C (07:49):
Never heard that one growing up.

Speaker A (07:50):
Okay.

Speaker D (07:50):
All right.

Speaker A (07:51):
There we go.

Speaker C (07:51):
Because that would have been, like, trauma.

Speaker A (07:53):
And then she closes the bedroom door.

Speaker B (07:56):
Yeah.

Speaker C (07:57):
I would have been so scared.
Because when I was little, little stuff scared
me so bad.
And I would, like, Try to sleep in her bedfor, like, a month after.
And she was like, no, sorry, no, can't dothis.
But I'm so genuinely scared.

Speaker A (08:13):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker C (08:14):
And I don't know exactly, like, the point when that changed, but now I love scary
stuff.
Like, I can't but see, she didn't.

Speaker B (08:20):
Tell me some of her experiences.
I did not find out until we started doing this
podcast, honestly.
Okay.

Speaker C (08:27):
Because my.
The very first one that I had is weird.
It's, like, not a usual ghost story.
It's odd.
And so I really maybe had only told my sisterup until that point, and I never really talked
about it because it's weird.
Like, it is weird.
It's a weird story.

Speaker A (08:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker C (08:45):
We used to share.
My sister and I used to share a room, and I. I
think I was still in my, like, little, short,little toddler bed.

Speaker B (08:52):
Yes, you were.

Speaker C (08:53):
And our beds were kind of, like,
perpendicular to each other, and she had,like, a big girl bed.
And so my little bed, I could see underneathhers.
Like, if I turned over, I could see underneathher bed, and we had little nightlight right in
between.
And there was one night that I woke up and Iturned over,
and I could see, like, straight underneath herbed and facing her were these feet.

(09:17):
These, like, gray,
almost like, marble statue kind of feet.
And at first I just had thought, you know,
maybe it was dad coming in to check on us ormom possibly.
But then when I looked up to see who it was,
there was nobody there.
It was literally just the feet.
And so, you know, in my little brain, I'm,like, not comprehending this at all.

(09:38):
So I just turned over and went back to sleep.
And I was like, I'll just call it a day.
And then, like, I guess it's just such a.
It really stuck with me because I can still,
like, I can still see it in my brain, like, ithappened yesterday.
Like, it's so vivid and clear because it wasjust such a weird experience.

Speaker A (09:57):
Oh, yeah.
That is a weird experience.
What other.
What other experiences have you had that have
been kind of scary or just interesting?

Speaker C (10:06):
I think.
So that was really one of the only ones thathappened when I was little.
And then it wasn't until I want to say mom andI went to Trans Allegheny that something else
happened.
Because I,
at the time, lived in this little old house ina tiny town, Galax, in Virginia.
And it was just me and my dog and everythingup until I had probably lived there for a good

(10:29):
three years at this point.
But then when I came back from TransAllegheny, it was just a weird.
It was a weird energy.
And I started, like, hearing things.
I had this really creepy basement in thathouse.
And there were wooden.
Wooden stairs.
And you know how, like, feet, boots sound onwooden?
It's a very specific sound.

Speaker A (10:49):
Yeah.

Speaker C (10:49):
And I remember one night I woke up, or I was dreaming in my dream that I was going
up the stairs in my sister's old apartmentbecause she had wooden stairs.
And then when I woke up, I could still hearthe noise of somebody coming upstairs.
And my dog Champ, was immediately, like,growling really low.
So I was like, okay, I'm not crazy.
Like, I know he hears it too.

(11:10):
And so I kind of.
We laid there for a second, and then I was
like,
well, I gotta get up and see if somebody's inthe house, because I'm not about to be, like,
crazy murdered just laying here.
Nothing about it.

Speaker A (11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker C (11:22):
So I got up and we went out into the hall.
And I'm not even kidding.
This basement was so creepy that, like, I hung
up a curtain, like, a sheer curtain in frontof it just to, like, get it out of the way.
I was like, you know what?I don't even want to look at this door.
It's just creepy.

Speaker A (11:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C (11:36):
So I went and I kind of stood at the door.
And it was the weirdest feeling.
Like, you know when you're sitting or standing
and somebody comes up behind you and you canfeel that somebody's there?
It felt like somebody was on the other side ofthis door.

Speaker A (11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker C (11:51):
Like, it felt like there was an energy or a person there.
But the thing is, you couldn't get into thebasement unless you came in through the house
first.
And the door was locked.
And we didn't hear anybody coming through thehouse because Champ would have been attack
mode, a hundred percent.
But he was at the door with me, and he was,like, growling really, really low in his
chest, which is scary.

(12:11):
But he only does that when he's, like, really,
really ****** off at something.
Like, really not having it.
And so I stood there for a second, and then Iwas like, you know what?
This door's locked.
I'm going back to bed.
I will deal with this in the morning.
Because I couldn't hear anything.
Like, I was like, hello?And I didn't hear anything back.
So the next morning, I go down there.
Not a sign in the world of anything.

(12:33):
No animals, no nothing had been move around.
But I think that this had happened.
This happened one other time because Iactually ended up calling the police and
having them come check my basement.
Because it.
It really just felt like there was somebodythere.
And they came in and they checked thebasement.
There was nothing in the basement.
And as he's coming back up the stairs, the

(12:54):
officer goes, I don't know, I guess maybe youjust have a ghost or something.
And I was like, sir,
I was like, why would you say that to me?I live alone.
That is not okay.
He was like, just call us if.

Speaker A (13:04):
It happens that the ghost showed up.
And his name was Ryan.
Hi, Ryan, how are you?

Speaker D (13:10):
How you doing?

Speaker A (13:12):
Good.

Speaker C (13:13):
About our paranormal experiences.

Speaker B (13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker A (13:16):
Yes.

Speaker B (13:16):
Yeah, Lindsay's.
We did a whole episode on some of Lindsay's
ghost stories and you can hear about herexperiences in the Trans Allegheny as well.

Speaker C (13:26):
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.
I won't keep us on and on and on.
Like, we gotta let.

Speaker B (13:31):
We gotta let Ryan.

Speaker C (13:32):
We gotta let ryan do his FaceTime.

Speaker A (13:34):
Yeah. Ryan, welcome.
Nice to see you.

Speaker D (13:37):
Nice to finally be here.
Sorry I had some technical difficulties.

Speaker A (13:41):
No problem.
I'm glad you could make it.
So what we're talking about is like your firstparanormal experience and like how old were
you and what happened?

Speaker B (13:51):
I've already told him.
You watched the exorcist at 4 years old?

Speaker A (13:54):
Yeah. Come on, Ryan.

Speaker D (13:56):
Come on.
Okay, well,
that's my first probably interaction orintroduction to the paranormal.
Like I said, I was like three or four yearsold.
All the gym is very.
At my grandmother's house and you know, we had
a sleepover.
Everybody made their little on the floor.
It's a big two story, creepy house anyways.
And I always said the upstairs was haunted.

(14:16):
And of course probably to get the kids out.
So when I fall asleep and I wake up and like Isaid, It's 3 o' clock in the morning, I wake
up and there's Linda Blair with her headspinning,
all done.
And I,
you know, I'm a kid.
Oh my God, what is it?And then from then on, you know, it terrified
me.
And I had not looked for three years.

(14:38):
And then I got to the point where like, okay,I don't understand it.
So, you know, what you don't understand scaresyou.
So the more you kind of learn about this,that's the better off you are.
However, I learned very quickly.
Well, not very quick.
I spent half my life trying to learn to nottry to be.
Not only be afraid.
I understand it and respect it now.

(14:58):
But it's a never ending rat hole.
So the more you think you know, the deeper it
gets and the worse it gets in some situations.
So I decided to kind of step away from thattype of issue,
Because I have seen things.
I've dealt with spirits.
I've seen figures.
I've seen the full Linda Blair experience.
I've seen a lot of that stuff.
So. And I've always wanted to be the person to

(15:22):
see them or see the pot flying across thekitchen, you know, and things like that.
It's fun.
And it's not just saying it.
It's the experience and the atmosphere changes
and everything around you that changes them tosay, hey, there's more to it than a offline or
there's more to it than that.
I've eyes changing color.
Maybe his voice changes.

(15:43):
It's something else here.
And so when you start getting a little bit
deeper into it, other than just saying, hey, Iwant to see a plan, proper room, There's a lot
more to it than that.
So those are some of my experiences.
I've seen a lot and I've experienced a lot.
Like I said, I've even like last year, Iexperience that one interesting too.

(16:06):
So it just seems like that's it to me.
And I've always felt like I had to follow me.
So it's been very calm for years.
So hopefully we keep it.
Keep it that way.

Speaker A (16:18):
Yeah. So that's with all paranormal investigators I've interviewed.
They've kind of said the same thing which yousaid.
It's like you want something to happen,
but you don't really want it to go beyond acertain level or a certain thing to happen to
you.
So, Brian Ryan, excuse me.
Could you tell me what was your strangestexperience and how did it affect you?

Speaker D (16:41):
Okay, probably the worst.
This is part.
And I can get a little bit on this.
In season one,
I told her about the home, about a brief homeI used to look at.
And if you don't know anything about grouphomes, you know, they're for like, you know,
the people that are not, you know, they'rementally challenged or they're disabled,
things like that.
They're just not able to focus from my fansthrough several different situations.

(17:06):
Some more demonic or like negative energy,
because they don't know any better.
They don't know the difference between
realities or they don't know how to makerestful in the season.
They don't know if it's their thoughts orsomebody else.
So in those situations, they basically just.
So it depends on the person's subconscious.
But one of the craziest experiences is we had

(17:27):
a gentleman.
He was in his early 20s, but he had a
mentality of maybe a 10, 12 year old and hespoke very soft spoken.
He sounded like Mickey Mouse for my typing.
So he, he,
how you doing?You come to my house today and he's the queen
ever, right?

Speaker A (17:43):
Yeah.

Speaker D (17:44):
Being around this person, you're like, oh, this guy totally awesome.
And didn't put him as well.
I'm not gonna have a problem.
Well,
time until it is.
He. He would, he would actually when you getthere, of course, everybody she plans on her
stuff.
And then Le.
Okay. Whenever he episode he is no longer hisname is Le.

(18:09):
Which later on I found out.
In my personal opinion, I put two and two is
legion.
Because there was a very, very severe very wow
attached to this.
So the experiences I go in there, you know,and I'm working that particular home that
night.
This is kind of crazy because this is flattogether.

(18:29):
But it actually happened in real life.
He had a video,
right.
But it was actually the video.
It looked like his name was.
Every time I got in trouble, it was money.
He didn't know it.
Yeah. So you know, he.
So he's making noise, you know.
And I go in there and I'm talking to him and

(18:50):
me being humorous myself.
What's going on?
It wasn't me, Buddy. So I want to play withhim.
I'm like, okay, I. You need to tell Buddy heneeds to be, you know, we can't be doing this.
And then he starts laughing and then he said,you know, Buddy said we don't do that then.

(19:11):
So. Well, tell Buddy, you know, I'm gonna puthim in the phone and then say, well, but he
said MF or no.

Speaker A (19:20):
Yeah. Okay, well, there you go.

Speaker D (19:26):
Hey, so this is crazy,
you know, and this whole time I'm beingnumerous, right?
And I'm like, okay, no problem.
I'm gonna go ahead and just participate and
I'm gonna be done with it.
So what I do, I play.
I'm going to pick up the dog and I'm going totalk to the dog.
Hey, look, be quiet, be good.
You know, as soon as I touch the doll and I
look into the doctor and it's nice and dogsaved you didn't go all freaky.

(19:48):
But as soon as I touched the doll, it was likedown my spine and the entire atmosphere and it
was like he was now thinking about it,
you know,

(20:08):
thinking, okay, something's attacked.
It's something.
Long story short,
you know, he makes some noise.
You know, the first time with.
She goes in there, she throws.
Ends up throwing Buddy up in the top of the
fault and told Betty to leave his hair.
And then Fast forward.
It's dark and the bathroom is basically right
across from his room.
So I go in there and then I hear this really

(20:31):
even like obelisk.
It's kind of squeezed flat, flat and it like
almost hit the wall.
And I'm like,
some of them.
So I go in there and he walks in all the way.
About 10 of these is a little 12 inch TV there

(20:52):
and that's the only light.
So I walk in and I look over at Clyde and likeI said.
So I look over at 5 and his eyes are physicalmoon walking into the purest blue.
And I get this eerie feeling,
you know.
Can't remember if he said something.
No, he said,

(21:14):
Ryan. And I'm like.
So I went slowly back up into the other room,which is probably 50ft and the lady down with
what's going on?I said,
here,
I want to make something like crazy.
I said, come here.

(21:38):
Was that spirit of devil.
That is because her husband was a freak and mydad and tell him what's going on.
And you know, he came for me, goes, I thinksomething kind of help you because of the eye
for that my son over there.
And because they're thinking faculty.
So later on we go in there and we have to pull

(22:00):
clothes.
And I'm like, well, where do these go?
He goes,
I'm like,
those are fine.
Okay. Okay, there.
So we go in there, we put five clothes up and
at this, his eyes are love, all freakylooking, they're kind of quite normal.
And he doesn't say a word.
He just follows me in his room when he comesback.
And as soon as I get ready to leave, he goes,bye Ryan, see you soon.

(22:22):
And I'm like,
and then later on, what, you don't like megoing to the window?
And then I'm like, what is it?I don't know.
I've never seen that.
And then we're in there in like 30 minutesfrom 5, and then we hear something come off
into the office.

(22:43):
So. Well,
we don't know what to expect when it comes tothe living room.
Sure what it is?

Speaker A (22:48):
Yeah.

Speaker D (22:49):
So he goes there and it's.
And it's fine.
In his regular normal face and in his shortlittle Mickey Mouse voice, he's like, you
doing all right?I'm like, oh good.
He goes, when you come back to my house?I'm like, I'm not sure, Clavis.
When you come back to my house?I'm like, I don't know.
Because he's trying to find out where my nextweek working is.
And he goes.
And then he's like,

(23:10):
yes, sir.
And then walks into his bedroom.
And there's several instances similar to that
that had happened, but that's probably got tobe one of my most intense.
And people.
I mean, they can call me a lie or whatever.
I mean, I put my hand on 10,000 bottles.
There's.
I would not make that up.
And that's probably the freakiest experience.

Speaker A (23:30):
Wow. Yeah. That does.
I always tell people curse dolls or just those
porcelain dolls freak me out.
Yeah.
I'm not saying that's was what that was, butyou know what I mean.
Those porcelain dolls, you know, from theVictoria era, and they have those little beady
little eyes and stuff.
And I had.
I had a guest on.
And she collects them, and they're all cursed.

(23:51):
Least she claims they're all cursed.
And I asked her, what the hell do you have
them in your house?
And her poor husband is like, I can't stopher.
She keeps buying them because she'll literallygo to, like, an antique shop and she'll buy
these things.
And, like, sometimes the owner will be like,
yeah, that doll's kind of.

(24:12):
Sometimes, like, come in the morning,
it will be sitting on the, like, the shelf.
And then, like, when I leave at night, then
it's like, right next to, like,
on a shelf near me.
And I'm like, well, there were no customers inhere for the pasta.
How did it move?I'm the only one working,
like, how did it?And, you know, they'll tell her that.

(24:33):
So I don't know what's going.
They're like, I don't know what's going on.
She'll be like, great.
She'll take it.

Speaker C (24:37):
I'll take it.

Speaker A (24:38):
Yeah. And she's like, I'm not scared.
What are they going to do to me?And I'm like, okay, keep them away from me.
She showed them on the Episodes, and itimmediately.
I saw it.
It just freaks me out.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know,and she keeps.
She keeps on joking with me.
She's going to send me some.
I'm going to ship some to you, John.
I'm like, no,
you're not.

Speaker C (24:58):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker A (25:00):
I see anything about the size of a doll, I'm just going to go to the UPS or
whoever FedEx got,
take it back.
I am not taking it.
Yeah, so then I'm.
I'm guessing, Ryan, you've probably been
scratched before.
You've probably been pushed before.

Speaker D (25:16):
Yeah.
What they call not terror, which I don'tbelieve.
I think the west magnificent sea house.
I had something yell into my ear.
I felt the bench on my way.
Like I said, the more I started detachingmyself and distance myself from that type of
thinking, it seems like it doesn't bother meto myself, you know, so.

(25:39):
But I always, like.
But anytime I open that door, just like the NCity just always makes a point to let me know.
It's like one breath away.
Because I had people, obviously, and theywake.
Wake me up, and they couldn't.
And then the next morning, they're like, hey,
do it.
Like, I just standing at your foot last night,

(26:02):
I tried to wake you up, and you wouldn't move.
And I've heard all kinds of crazy stuff.
And there's been situations where,
you know, you feel things and you're justlike,
you know, how do you handle that?You know, you kind of pray with yourself, you
know, Because I'm a firm believer that whenyou open doors, you know, they're open, or the

(26:23):
more you're attracted to things, the more itsees you, or the more that they get involved
or.
Yet I think there's a connection there.

Speaker A (26:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
So I. I'm guessing Rhonda and Lindsay, youguys never played with Ouija boards.
I'm.

Speaker B (26:40):
I was just getting ready to say this.
This what Ryan just said.

Speaker A (26:46):
Come on.

Speaker B (26:48):
Coming from a guy who, at this location he mentioned,
said, hey, they got a. They have a Ouijaboard.
I'm.
Let's do a Ouija board.
So Ryan and I said,
yes,
Lipsy.

Speaker A (27:02):
You gotta say something here.
No.

Speaker C (27:04):
Okay. I had kind of been interested in them.
I'd never done one before.

Speaker A (27:09):
Okay.

Speaker C (27:10):
And then at the Nickerson Snead house, when we were doing the Ouija board, it
was, like, in a room with other people, andthere was, like, conversations going on, and
Ryan and I were doing the Ouija board, andnothing really happened.

Speaker D (27:21):
And I was like that, you know.

Speaker C (27:23):
No, I don't think anything's gonna happen.
So we just called it a day.
But I think it was.
Mom, was it with you and Ryan that it kind ofmoved a little bit?

Speaker B (27:30):
Yeah, he thought I was doing it.
I thought he was doing it.
I thought, you know, we're big pranksters,right?

Speaker C (27:35):
Yeah.

Speaker B (27:36):
But that was one thing that I wasn't gonna be, you know, bring any humor to.
I wasn't gonna.
I was actually trying not, like, to
concentrate, not to move the planchette,
please.
It started moving, and he's looking at me
like, are you doing that?
Like, no.

Speaker A (27:54):
Bad news.

Speaker B (27:55):
Just kind of.
Yeah. Quit before it said anything where I.

Speaker D (28:00):
Would never use one.
But we.
The lady seemed okay.
And then, you know, I was like, okay, if we're
gonna do this, I'm not opening myself up tomake myself right.
I'll give it just a little bit, just to see ifsomething says any time, and shut it down, you
know?
But, like, the Rhonda thing, I was with her,and she.

(28:20):
I was like, you move.
She doesn't know.
But it actually did move on its own, and itwas.
Yeah. So I was just like, okay, that's enough.

Speaker B (28:28):
Yeah. We didn't give.
We didn't take any chances.
Once we figured out we weren't moving it, wejust quit.

Speaker A (28:34):
Absolutely.
Do not mess with them.
There's some bad news if you don't do itright, too.
You got to do it right correctly.
Make sure you close everything, because you
don't think about it, you know, and stuff.
You just.
And it's scary if something does happen.
Yeah.
No,
no. Thanks for me.
Excluding Ryan, Lindsay, or Rhonda, have you
ever brought a spirit home?Because, Brian, I'm sure you probably have had

(28:58):
a broadest beer at home.
Have either one of you?

Speaker C (29:03):
I think.
Honestly, I think that my experience at the
house when I was hearing all of those things,I do think that it was something from.
That I brought back from Trans Allegheny.

Speaker A (29:14):
Right, right.

Speaker D (29:14):
Yeah, I really do.

Speaker C (29:15):
Because when we went and I didn't even think about this, but when we went, at
the time,
I was, like, really struggling mentally, like,trying to get into a good headspace, and I
could see, like, something sensing that andgoing, hey, like, maybe we'll just take a trip
with this girl.
And then getting to my house and, like, thebasement kind of looked similar to parts of

(29:36):
transallocating.
Like, it was creepy and just like,
okay, well, I'm gonna chill down here, becausethis looks familiar.
But then as time went on and I got, like,mentally to a better space,
that stuff started happening less and less,and then it just stopped happening.

Speaker A (29:50):
Yeah. Yeah. Rhonda, have you think you've ever brought the spirit home?

Speaker B (29:54):
I don't think I ever have.
I think normally I'm probably too positive and
bubbly for spirits.
I don't know.
But I've never felt that I've brought anythingwith me.

Speaker A (30:06):
The reason.
Reason I'm not picking on you guys.
Lindsey and Rhonda, the reason I say that is
because some areas you go in there arechildren.
Right, Ryan?I mean, you know, you probably have dealt with
this.
Speak up if you want to Tell a story oranything.
A lot of children, right?And they see you two, and they think, mommy,
right?
Or they think.

(30:27):
Say,
right?
They see Ryan and they go, holy ****, thatguy's going to kick the **** out of me again.
You know, it looks like one of the guards,
you know.
You know, I don't want him.
But Lindsay and Rhonda, they look sweet andpositive,
so nothing like that.
You've never had, like, a child, entity, or
spirit maybe try to reach out or try to touchor maybe an EVP or see something that.

Speaker C (30:53):
I don't know.
Because there was another time that we were at
Trans.
The first time we went to Trans Allegheny, and
we went on one of the flashlight tours, and soit was, like, all dark.
Our tour guide.
What did he.
Did he have a flashlight or did he have, like,a lightsaber?

Speaker B (31:07):
He didn't have a flashlight because I remember you.
I remember people having to turn theirflashlights on, their phones on, right?

Speaker C (31:14):
So we.
And we had just gotten past, like, the room
where the little girl is said to be, and.
And then we were gonna leave and go to the
other actual haunted house part of it.
And so it was me and mom and two other ladies.
And our tour guide was gonna take us out this.
It was kind of like a flimsy screen door.
Like, it didn't look like anything sturdy.

(31:35):
And we had.
When we were standing in line, we'd watch
people come in and out of it all.
All night.
And so he.
He steps forward, like, away from us.
I'd say it was probably a good 10 to 15ft awayfrom us because we were just in this big room,
and he's trying to get this door open.
He's trying to get this door open.
He's, like, locking it, unlocking it, pullingit as hard as he can.

Speaker B (31:56):
He even kicked it at one point.

Speaker C (31:57):
Yeah, he kicked it at one point, and it didn't budge.
So I stepped up and put my phone flashlight onso that he could use both hands, because, you
know, he's got this lightsaber he can't.
Can't do with one hand.
And so he's trying to unlock this door.
And I just, like, was trying to be funny.
I was like, well, I guess they don't want usto leave.
And then as soon as I said that, I felt thesefingers go down my back.

(32:19):
And I thought it was mom at first, because Ithought she was trying to say, like, don't.
Don't say that.
Like, shut your mouth.
We're not saying that right now, but I Turnedaround, and they were still, like, a good 10
to 15ft back there.
And there's no way they could have done thatthat fast.
And she didn't turn around.

Speaker B (32:35):
She whipped her head around.
And I. Yeah, because I saw.
And she said, did you just touch me?

Speaker C (32:41):
No, I didn't say a thing because I didn't want to freak you out.

Speaker B (32:43):
And I was, like, looking at it.

Speaker C (32:44):
The guy never got the door open.
We had to go back and go out a different door.

Speaker B (32:49):
Flimsy screen door.

Speaker D (32:51):
Like, wow.

Speaker C (32:53):
Yeah.
So then we went outside, and we were on ourway to the other haunted house.
I was kind of like,
in that last room, did you.
Did you touch me at all?
And she goes, no. What do you mean?

Speaker B (33:06):
No way that I could have snuck up behind her, touched her, and then ran all the
way back.
Something was up because I saw her snap herhead around.
Like, what?

Speaker C (33:17):
I really figured it was you because the whole tour,
when we were there, mom had.
Mom had my shirt like this.
Like, I had a dance on my shoulder, like a.
Like a freaking pair.
Like, she was freaked out,
and so I didn't want to say anything to herthen because I was like, oh, she's going to
have a panic attack.
I'll just wait till we get outside.

(33:37):
But, yeah, it was.
It was really weird, so.
And I don't know if it was maybe like,
the ghost of the little girl, like, saying,yeah, you should stay here,
or if it was, because that was like, the.
What ward was that?
It was like the older.
It was the one for the older ladies, wasn't
it?

Speaker B (33:53):
Yeah, they had a ward for seniors, and they would often, if there were children
that put them there, ended up in the asylum.
They would let the senior citizens, like, kind
of babysit them.

Speaker C (34:06):
Yeah.

Speaker B (34:07):
And so this little girl had a room full of toys, you know, that she used to play
with in the.
In that ward, and they call it her room.
But, yeah.

Speaker C (34:17):
Yeah, it was the weirdest thing.
And I've never felt anything like that since,like, when we went back, we went to the same
room, and we were staying in the same spot.
Didn't feel anything.
But, yeah, it was a very distinct.
Like, I could feel, like, three fingers goingdown my back.
And I was kind of like,
yeah, that.

(34:38):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker A (34:40):
I'm running through that screen door because they won't have cartoon.
Yeah, yeah, watch this.
Everybody's gonna be like, well, there goesJohn.
Yeah.
So, Ryan, do you.
Do you have any recommendations for people who
maybe have brought home a spirit?Like, what would you do you know, when you did
or you feel you did, was there anything youdid differently?

(35:03):
Did you welcome it?Did you just say, nope, you got to leave.

Speaker D (35:08):
What made me tell something was there.
I would take my.
I would recognize if I'd get home three or
four o'clock in the morning.
My son wasn't infant, you know, just.
Well, not really an infant newborn one or twoyears old.
But I may take nobody else in me up.
Unless the bathroom door would open.
I would sit things.
I would feel weird.
One of the things that really stood out was my

(35:30):
son started immediately out.
Amen. Yes. In the middle of the night.
The neighbor's.
We would.
We would go to leave for some reason, that
little booger and sneak.
And as soon as we'd open the door, it would
just run into the house and it would alwaysrun all the way through the.
Well, it's the tailor.
Run all the way back to my bedroom and run
into bed.
And I'll spend the next 20 minutes trying to

(35:51):
get to that well in that situation.
It wasn't a day or two later the cat was afterit run into the house, halfway down the
hallway to my bedroom and ran out.
And then it went in and my parent looked at me
last, you know, I'm sorry.
He was on.
He was,
I don't know, three, four maybe.
He was really small.
He goes,

(36:13):
that's really weird before.
And then I'm thinking, yeah, we got a problem.
So I knew that, that.
So it made me mad one night,
like I said, my dad drew religious, you know,his group and they do,
you know, and they can have thousands ofpeople praying a moment.
So I got mad one and I'm like, look, y' allkeep playing.

(36:36):
I said, I'm making a phone call.
I said, I'll have a thousand people praying
tomorrow.
I said, so you either run your own or, you
know, I'm making you.
And then I also had.
My dad didn't pray anyways and my dad came
through and stuff.
So we ended up having, you know, kind of
cleans it out.
But there was other situations throughoutwhere I could feel it.
Strategies for Philip trying to talk threeyear TREASON so what I would suggest is if you

(37:00):
feel something like that is to be friends,
you know,
try to be friends somehow.
You don't have your place when.
Because if it's dirty, you know, when you'redirty, you got to be on both.
Even if you're cleaning in the house occupied,you'll be able to get it most together.
So that's my situation.

(37:21):
And I Could still send things around, but it's
not the next level.

Speaker A (37:25):
That's cool.

Speaker D (37:26):
That's my opinion.

Speaker A (37:27):
Okay. That's good.
So thank you for all sharing those greatstories,
because that's what makes paranormalinvestigating fun, right?
And scary.
Because you don't know, right?
There's some days you go in and you're like,man, we've been here six hours.
There's nothing.
And it's still fun, right?Because you don't know.

Speaker B (37:45):
Yeah.

Speaker A (37:46):
And then other times, you.
You walk in the door and they're like, hey,
did you hear that?Did you see that?
Did you feel that?You know what I mean?
It's just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
And, you know, every paranormal investigator Ispeak to, they.
They all say the same thing, and it's quiteobvious they were people just like you and me.
So imagine.
Imagine when you're gone, someone comes into

(38:07):
your house, right?
And then they start arranging things andpainting.
You're going to be like, hey,
stop that.
You know, you.
Because you can be a little defensive atfirst.
And that's what a lot of spirits are, right?Because you're like, hey, this is my place.
This is my turf, whatever, whether it's goodor bad.
And of course you're going to say something,right?

(38:30):
And most of the times, hopefully, it's justlike, hello or, you know, or sometimes get
out, you know, it really depends.
So, yeah, I love that.
I think it's really great.
So we have a fun topic for tonight, folks, andI always love this topic, and it is urban
legends.
So urban legends are always fun, right?

(38:51):
Because some you can prove, some, well, mostyou can't.
But they're fun stories, right?You're around the campfire, you're,
you know, sitting at a bar, you're at dinner,and you're just having, hey, did you hear
about this?There used to be this guy with a hook, and he
used to get young couples who were making outin the woods car or maybe.

(39:14):
Maybe just in the woods.
I don't know.
Whatever they're doing, it's just fascinating,right?
Because it keeps going to generation, togeneration, to generation.
And I love that because that's good, right?Because we have some fun and we can all
communicate together about something that weall find really fun.
So I'm going to start with Rhonda and Lindsayand Ryan.
You guys sent me a message saying you havesome in your area, some urban legends you like

(39:39):
to talk about, so please let my spooky friendsknow about them.

Speaker B (39:43):
Well, I will go first and just say that we all three live in different states.
I'm in the mountains of North Carolina,western North Carolina, Lindsay's in southwest
Virginia, and Ryan is in Tennessee.
So I thought it would be fun if each of us,you know, told a little bit about some urban
legends in our area or our state.

(40:04):
So like you said, urban legends, usually it's
interesting because they start with a kernelof truth somewhere,
and then each person or each group keepsadding their spin on it.
And before you know it, it's.
It just has enough believability to keep
people on the hook, you know.
So in North Carolina, about an hour and a halffrom where I live, there's a mystery that's

(40:28):
yet to be solved.
And it's a location that we definitely want to
go to.
It's in the Pisgah National Forest over inBurke County.
I live in Ashe county, but it's in Burkecounty and it's called.
It's a place called Brown Mountain.
And as daylight disappears and darkness creeps
over the trees, it is said that strange lightsbegin to stir on the ridgeline.
Folks who have seen them, and there are manyof these folks who have seen them, describe

(40:52):
them as bright, flickering,
colorful,
different sized lights that seem to dancearound on the mountain like someone might be
walking or just moving in weird patterns.
And no one knows why and no one knows what
they are.
Some say that they're the spirits of ghostmaidens who are forever wandering the

(41:12):
mountains in search of the lost lovers from a.
I guess the Cherokee and the Choctaw had a
brutal battle at that location many, manyyears ago.
And there were many young Native Americanskilled.
And then others say that they could be theghosts of Civil war soldiers.
And others whisper that might be aliens.
And then there are some skeptics who just

(41:34):
scoff it all away and say, oh, it's just marshgas or something like that,
right?
But whatever it is,
it has.
It's been witnessed by a lot of people andit's grown in kind of into a famous legend
that's not so urban anymore.
Because in 1999, the hit show the X Files,
which we all know what that is, they did awhole episode on the Brown Mountain lights.

(41:58):
So you can go back and catch that.
But for over a century, no one's been able to
explain what they are.
Okay?
And if you go there and they say if you waitlong enough, you might just see them too.
And a lot of people will go.
They'll drive up the road on the oppositeridge and sit there just waiting to see these

(42:20):
Lights.
Sometimes they see them, sometimes they don't.
And so I found a story from a local retiredpark ranger and his first name is David.
And he said, on a crisp October night yearsago, the kind of night when the fog is
clinging low and the stars kind of are hiddenbehind the cloud clouds, it was really dark.
And he said, I was hiking a familiar trailnear Brown Mountain, doing a lake patrol.

(42:43):
I paused at an overlook that I'd stood at ahundred times before.
And that's when I saw them.
Three lights hovering just above the treetops.
One was red,
pulsing like a heartbeat.
Another was blue, and it was flickering.
And the third one was a pale yellow light thatwas drifting along slowly through the
darkness.
He said, I watched,

(43:03):
standing there, frozen, as the lights moved.
And the lights moved too smoothly for drones.
They were too quiet to be vehicles.
And then, without a warning, all of a sudden,they just blinked out.
Gone, just like that.
No sound, nothing.
No wind.
He said, I don't scare easily, but that night,
I turned around and booked it out of there anddidn't look back.

Speaker A (43:24):
Yeah.

Speaker B (43:25):
Trist investigators and even government researchers have come to the
mountain to try to debunk any paranormal causeof the light.
They've conducted all kinds of extensiveresearch and written reports into what these
lights could be, but so far, no one and nogroup has been able to prove that they're
train lights or vehicle lights or lights fromlanterns or campfires.

(43:47):
There's been no proof that the lights arecaused by some kind of strange atmospheric
phenomenon.
And no one's proven that it's a hoax or a
trick.
So that is the location and a story that has
all that's intrigued me ever since I heardabout it.
And I really want to go there and park on theother ridge and sit there and, you know, I
want to know, like, if so many people havegone and seen the lights, okay, where's the

(44:11):
video footage?
I want to see some.

Speaker A (44:13):
So. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
I heard your story, Rhonda, and it's a reallyinteresting story.
And I was a big X Files fan back in the day.
Yes, by the way.
By the way, they're rebooting it again.
I don't know why, but they are.

Speaker D (44:30):
Really?

Speaker A (44:31):
Yes. Be out next year sometime with the original past while the people are, you
know, who they can get.

Speaker B (44:39):
Oh, good.
Yeah, good, good.

Speaker A (44:40):
There is some evidence on YouTube,
but it's very sketchy.
You know what I mean?
It looks.
Yeah, it looks fake.
It looks like.
It looks like they got, like, a bunch of dudesand say, hey dude, go and grab your flashlight
running up there.
Yeah.
You see what I'm saying?And you're like, I do.
You can watch.

(45:01):
Yeah, yeah.
The real thing you really have to see.
And yes, you're absolutely right.
People are.
Whether you're too scared or whether it's
just.
I don't know what it is, but I agree.
I think it's fascinating.
I personally, my personal opinion thinks it's
spirits of some native Americans.
That's me.
But I'm an alien guy too.

(45:21):
So I'm like aliens kind of hanging out.

Speaker B (45:24):
Yeah.

Speaker A (45:25):
Doing something.
I don't know.
But I love that story.
Lindsay or Ryan, who would like to go next to
talk about there to you?

Speaker C (45:31):
Ryan, go.

Speaker D (45:32):
Okay. The next one is a little bit less.
Well, I think less supernatural.
But it.
It listen my faith which is supernatural, whatwe talk about.
This is near something that I feel I can dealwith on one on one neighbors.

Speaker A (45:47):
Okay.

Speaker D (45:47):
And this is the walker that I'm.
This is dibbling throughout the entireAppalachian.
It ranges from Missouri, Tennessee, WestVirginia, Kentucky, Virginia.
Everybody's seen this thing.
So basically in Missouri it's called the jollywampus,
called the whistling wampus.
And Appalachia is playing a wall or wampus.

(46:10):
So we're just shorting it down.
So what it is is a half dog, half creature
that's a man in reds or on all fours.
So it doesn't matter if you're going to get
you.
It's similar to being seen just after darkerright before dawn all throughout the
Appalachian.
But that's about what.
That's the only thing really what people willread non Native American culture.
It's a high eagle feature with yellow eyesthat can supposedly fit the heart and souls of

(46:33):
those.
It drives them to be insane.
So just looking at this thing and if you turn
to a towel it really affects you to make yougo crazy because of just according to pharaoh
folklore.
It's filled with channels with evil spiritsworking into deed.
The dark forest that surround the villagesoffers a different view of the want.

(46:55):
They think it's an evil demon called Dua.
EW A8 it's the spirit of madness abilities of
descending on the virginity here it's what youcall North Carolina today.
So it's not the restaurant.

Speaker A (47:15):
No.

Speaker D (47:16):
So the village salmons and war chiefs call for meeting.
And the wise woman told the war chief thatsending the braves behind until the wall was
surely going to be the end of the fight.
So the Iwa had several powers to drive man mad
with a Glance.
So the thief argued that we can no longer seefrom the dream to the turkey children and that

(47:38):
something must be done.
So basically it was still affecting those kids
even in their dream.
So they agreed that their strongest prey wouldgo by itself and bring great honor to his
family and tribe by by killing the mad demon.
So if I'm him, I'm like, look, you're not S.C.
all warriors.
You're telling how you go there.
Why me right?Did they die?

(47:59):
Be lucky with that.
So. But his name was th obviously this
depending on the story version was thestrongest n or most respected babe in all the

(48:19):
lost on the killing the common blessing and aworking of their many weapons which they
claimed to be.
Once he got to the edge of town, his wiferenting gear beat him a final fair ware and
she'd never see him the same way again.
So they're all like, hey, you got this, you
got this.
You know.
And he's just thinking, I hate y' all right
now, right?So. So after weeks nobody heard from them

(48:41):
standing there.
And then suddenly one night,
streaking brave come running back to the camp.
So one of their one of the watchers, he comeback screaming and clawing at his eyes.
Because one look and running gear knew thather husband was no more.
And with time, he'd be able to pick berries.
But with time,
the basically the guy that was looking out foreverybody,

(49:03):
he was able to see again because when he firstseen it, he couldn't see his demons eyes but
did the face and basically blinded him.
But after a while, he was able to go out, pickberries, work in the field.
But he would never be good as a husband again.
So the past him he was able to get married or,
you know,

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be a husband.
And that meant he was dead.
So basically the Cherokees are just like,
look, you can't do anything.
You can't marry, you can't be a husband.
So, you know, you can't hit the brakes,reproduce.
So yeah, you're out.
But running deer had loved her husband and she
wanted revenge.
So. So the bear got took by the Walpole stat.

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And then they pretty much stunned him after hewent out and tried to defend the job.
And they're all like, you're not these thingsanymore.
See you.

Speaker A (49:54):
Yeah.

Speaker D (49:54):
So she went back to the and they gave her a mouth which is a bobcat.
So they're like, you don't take care of it sowe can walk the cat.
You're going to cut the things off a wild catand fury, you're going to Put it on your face
that way it doesn't the same way.
So apparently they told her that the spirit ofthat bobcat if she wore its face could

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withstand the one.

Speaker A (50:17):
Right?

Speaker D (50:18):
Right.
One saddiness.

Speaker A (50:20):
Yeah. It makes sense.
Yeah.
Total.

Speaker D (50:23):
He has to be the one to do it because obviously it has to be her because it
took her husband.
So they gave her a special black paste when he
rubbed it on her body.
That would hide her skin as well as her body.
So Mikey cover herself head and tone his.
And she kissed her former husband on theforehead.
His wife got sang and handed off to take theribbon.
So he basically just pretty much a zombie.

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You don't know really what's going on.
And she's right in front of him kind of toe.
That's the front of her.
And do mask what she really looks at.
And she has a box.
Good thing you couldn't see her wood and leftthe building.
And getting some berries to keep her strengthup.
Because she got for days standing on this.

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And then one night she heard a preachertossing down on screen slowly towards it.
And if you heard a street snap honk.
She finally just as suddenly realized that how
quickly it could have been at the end of herit was actually a wiley font darting across
the pathway.
If that had been the the or the Ewok I wouldbe mad.

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So she is thankful that it wasn't the creaturethat she thought.

Speaker A (51:30):
Yeah.

Speaker D (51:30):
And the good old surface woman talked to herself and she continued for the
feast.
Then once you go to the edge of the face you
call the footprint.
And then she saw where her former huntingfirst fate landed into the water.
And then she keep all the fort fences.
And then she saw the and storm rip seamlessly
over the water drinking from the same amountof stream.

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The fat hasn't seen her yet.
So obviously the paint and the mopsa.

Speaker A (51:59):
Yeah.

Speaker D (52:00):
You know.
So he thinks that that this assurance he feltthat he could get as close as she could before
and began to turn itself as a spirit of metalcat turned his magic back on itself.
And Eli tumbled backwards into the pool.
And running gear immediately turned on her

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heel and ran as she could back to the village.
Never want jumping back.
And when she arrived home she sat upon herselfa flat on the booth.
And her handsome Jennifer the demon gear thespirit offers protection and the contact that
the spirit of running gear in habits to walk achat.
He continues her eternal victim of watchingher son's land to protect him and the people

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from the demons in the dark places with thatarea of Boston.

Speaker A (52:54):
Yeah.

Speaker D (52:54):
So.

Speaker A (52:55):
Hello.

Speaker D (52:56):
Yeah. So if you're.
As you feed the Walpole, get your box.

Speaker A (53:00):
Yeah.

Speaker D (53:01):
You know, face all over you and.
Yeah, it'll.
It'll make you're a more powerful cat, andit'll pull on stuff.

Speaker A (53:08):
Oh, okay.
How about.
How about I run like hell?Can I do that, too?
Can I just really run really fast and.

Speaker B (53:17):
Don't look at it.

Speaker A (53:18):
Don't look at it.
Please don't.
Please don't do that.
I love that one, Ryan. That is a good one.
I've heard of that one, too.
That is a great story.
Lindsay, how about you?
What do you got?

Speaker C (53:28):
So we're going to be talking about a very unique urban legend Cryptid,
and it's called the Snallygaster.
Okay. The Snallygaster.
So in, like, the 1730s, you had these Germanimmigrants coming over and settling in the
Blue Ridge Mountains.
And they,
in their accounts, described they were beingterrorized by this monster, and they called it

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the Schnellergeist,
which means quick spirit in German.
Now we kind of have.
It has evolved into Snallygaster,
which I think is the best name.

Speaker D (54:04):
No, it's a great name.

Speaker A (54:05):
I love it.

Speaker C (54:07):
So then it kind of died down for a little bit, and then in the 19th century, it
pops back up because you had these slaveowners that were using the story of the
Snallygaster to scare their slaves into notrunning away,
which is awful.

Speaker A (54:21):
Yeah.

Speaker C (54:22):
But here's what this thing looked like, okay.
It's described as having enormous wings, along, sharp beak, claws like steel, and one
eye right in the middle of its forehead.
And it would fly around and terrorize.
And this one guy that saw it kind of describedit as a tiger mixed with a vampire, because

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apparently it had.
It had gotten a hold of this guy and so
stabbed him in the neck with its sharp beakand then, like, slowly drank all of the blood
out of him.

Speaker A (54:52):
Yikes.

Speaker C (54:53):
Yeah.
So mainly this thing has been seen kind ofmore on the East Coast, Virginia, Maryland, a
lot in the Shenandoah Valley is where it'ssaid to live.
And the best story that I found about it isthat when people thought that it died.
Here's how they thought that it died.
Because they had tried for years to capture
this thing, to shoot it.
It was bulletproof.

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None of their guns worked.
They couldn't get rid of this thing.
But there one day, it was, like, flyingaround, you know, doing its thing, having a
good time,
and it smells.
There was, like, a huge vat.
These people were making moonshine up in theMountains.
And there was this huge bat they were cooking.
And so the Snallygaster gets.
Gets a whiff of it, and it's like, hell, yeah.
What is this?
And so, like, nose dives into the moonshine.

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And so then it's like boiling and, like,screeching, you know, because,
no, it was going to be hot.
And so the guys that were making the moonshine
shove some dynamite underneath, lit it, andthen ran like hell.
And so their whole moonshine get up just blowsup with this monster in it.
And then they go around bragging.
They're finally like, you know, we killed it.

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We got the Snallygaster.

Speaker A (55:59):
Yeah.

Speaker C (55:59):
I mean, that's the best story of.

Speaker A (56:01):
I love that.

Speaker C (56:02):
Like, the perishing of the Snelly Gaster.
But after that, there were still sightings.
There was a sighting as recent as 2015.
There was a family camping in the ShenandoahValley, and they said that this is the
creature that they came into contact with.
It was, like, screeching at them.
It had this.
These huge wings and this beak and this eye inthe middle of its forehead.
And I don't know.

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So maybe it's still around.
Maybe that was the Papa Snallygaster and therest of the family was back home, you know?

Speaker A (56:32):
Yeah, I love that.
So you said.
When was it spotted again?

Speaker C (56:39):
In 2015. Was the most recent sighting.
Yeah.

Speaker A (56:43):
Interesting.
No pictures, right?

Speaker C (56:45):
Of course.

Speaker B (56:46):
Of course.

Speaker C (56:47):
Illustrations, but no actual pictures.
Yeah, no video evidence that I found.

Speaker A (56:52):
Anyways,
I love all of those, you guys.
Those are great stories.
So before we get to our little game, we'regonna do true or false.
Like,
Ryan, I don't know if you heard this one, butwe're gonna do true or false urban legends.
And you guys just say true.
False.
I'll read your story.
You just said true or false.

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But before we get to that,
in Wisconsin, go look this up.
In fact, do an episode on it.
You're gonna absolutely love it.
There is a cryptid called the Hodag.
And the Hodag is in Rhinelander, Wisconsin,
is a mythical, mischievous creature thatserves as the city's official symbol and

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mascot of, you guessed it, the RhinelanderHigh School.

Speaker C (57:39):
So that's so cool thing.

Speaker A (57:44):
Okay,
you can go listen to my episode, folks.
It's one of my earliest episodes.
And yes, it is an official mascot of theRhinelander High School.
They're called the Rhinelander Hodags.
So there was this guy, he was a con man, andhe was in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
And he.
He. He made up this cryptid and he said, hey,there's this kind of.

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It kind of looks like an alligator with spikeson it with like a head of like.
Oh, like a lizard cat kind of.
It's really.
You gotta look it up.
Google it, Trust me.
You'll be like, what the hell is that?
Anyway,
so everyone believed it was true.
But he was a con man,
this guy, and he made this out of like papermache or something and he put it in a cave and

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he told, you know, this is 1800s, by the way.
And he's like, come on, boys, we're going toget it.
You know, and, you know, they bring on theirshotguns and pitchforks.
You know, it's a big pipes and they'reshooting in the cave and they're throwing
stuff.
And then some guy goes, I know, we'll blast itout.
And guy gets dynamite.
You know, the 1800s, you just go down to the
country store and get dynamite, right?You know, like, here, here, Ryan, thanks for

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the dynamite, you know, and it was like, boom.
And they throw dynamite in this thing,
blow it up.
And they're like, ah, it's dead.
Cool.
And there's a picture, an actual picture of
it.
How to survive this, I don't know.
There's an actual picture in the Rhinelandernewspaper from the like 1800s, early 90s of
the Hodak, okay?
Everybody knows it's fake.

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Everybody knows it's a joke.
There is no whole day.
However,
people just.
The town said, we love this and they just
adopted it.
There is a Rhinelander country music festivalevery June, okay?
They bring top country artists, you know, tothere.
I'm not talking like Joe's, you know, fish andwhatever they come to.

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I'm talking like top artists come to a Hodakfestival in Rhinelander, Wisconsin, which is
basically like what I would tell you guys islike a small,
kind of medium sized town.
It's not a city.
It's like a medium sized town.
And they've been doing it for like 20 years.
And people celebrate it.
Little kids dress up like it.

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There's a. There's a Hodag store.
There's like.
It's crazy.
It's absolutely insane.
It's not true at all.
And I know you're right.
Well, that's not really an urban legend, butyeah, it kind of is.
People still talk about it.
Yeah, it's very funny.

Speaker B (01:00:07):
Urban legend.

Speaker A (01:00:08):
Go, go look it up.
I think you guys would love to do an episode
on it.
It's insane.
It's totally insane how this ever started.

Speaker D (01:00:17):
So.

Speaker A (01:00:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Like I said, Google.

Speaker C (01:00:21):
You're just like, now I'm like, wait, do I want to make a paper mache Cryptid?
And, like, start like the Cryptid of Abingdon?And there you go.
Just trick everybody into thinking that wehave Cryptid.

Speaker A (01:00:34):
Yeah.
And you know, the.
The funny thing about it was it wasn't like he
made money off of it.
I mean, he kind of did and kind of didn't.
Like,
the town just freaked out.
I was like, oh, my God, we gotta destroy it.
Like, nobody said, let's capture it orwhatever.
They're like, kill it.
And I'm like,

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all right.

Speaker B (01:00:56):
And nobody said, is this dapper real?

Speaker A (01:00:59):
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
Everybody was just going along because this
guy was such a good con man.
Like, some people are like, come on, man.
But most of the people, like, it's a posse,
like in the old west, and they're likerunning, you know, Like,
I don't.
I don't get it to this day, to be honest withyou guys.
Yeah. And it's.
It's. It's huge.
It's absolutely huge.

Speaker B (01:01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:01:19):
And I'm just like, what is that? There's a store, like I said, you can get
shirts and stuff for.
From.
Excuse me, you can order online.
I still got to order mine.
I still haven't done it.
But anyways, it's absolutely hilarious.
Okay.

Speaker C (01:01:31):
You would think that these people would say, that thing's not moving.
I think it's just paper mache.
But they were so hyped up that they were like,no, we're gonna kill it.

Speaker A (01:01:40):
I don't know.

Speaker C (01:01:41):
It might be paper mache, but we gotta burn it.

Speaker B (01:01:45):
They just owned it, you know, they just embraced it.

Speaker D (01:01:48):
I love it.
I love that.
Why do we do it?I don't know, but we're building stuff up.
Oh, I mean, let's go.
You got the dynamite?

Speaker A (01:01:57):
Yeah.

Speaker D (01:01:58):
I mean, let's go do that.

Speaker A (01:02:01):
Yeah. In today's world, if someone knocks on your door, hey, Ryan and Lindsay and
Rhonda,
let's go.
You'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What are we.
Wait, what are we blowing up here?
I don't know.

Speaker B (01:02:12):
We might be like, yeah.

Speaker A (01:02:13):
Oh, you might go.

Speaker C (01:02:14):
Depends on the day.
Yeah, it depends on the day.

Speaker A (01:02:18):
I'm gonna be careful around you guys.
If I ever say that as a practical joke.
Let's just blow stuff up.
Yeah. Okay, John, I'll go with you.
Where we go.

Speaker C (01:02:26):
All right, let's go.

Speaker A (01:02:27):
I got the dynamite.

Speaker D (01:02:28):
Come on.

Speaker A (01:02:28):
What are we doing?
What are we waiting for?Let's Go.
So anyway, go check it out.
If you want to do a story on it.
It's a great story.
You can have a lot of fun with it.
Okay, so here we're going to do it.
Like I said, it's true or false.

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I'm going to read it.
And I tried to pick some around your guys'sarea,
so. So maybe you've heard about it, maybe youhaven't.
Okay, I'm gonna start with a really funny one.
Some of these are not scary.
I'm gonna admit it.
But I had to do them because they're really
funny.

Speaker C (01:03:05):
Okay.

Speaker A (01:03:05):
And you.
I'm gonna throw some things in to throw you
guys off.
So I'm gonna start with the first one.
So this is from in.
Or, excuse me, in Baton.
I always say Rouge. Rouge, Louisiana.
You guys can help me.
I got a Wisconsin accent.

Speaker C (01:03:20):
Yeah, I think it is Baton Rouge.

Speaker A (01:03:21):
Okay.

Speaker D (01:03:22):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:03:23):
In Baton Rouge, a man dubbed the Serial Snuggler has been sentenced to
community service for breaking into apartmentsto cuddle with sleeping women.
Is that true or false?

Speaker C (01:03:36):
Lindsey would believe it.

Speaker A (01:03:42):
That is absolutely true.
It is absolutely true.
So there were 12 incidents, no injuries.
It was at the University of Baton Rouge.
The snuggler helped himself to, oh, by theway,
food, such as beer and pizza.
And even made nachos in one instant.

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He even folded clothes.
But he would crawl into your bed.
Sorry, women.
I know this sounds bad, but he didn't doanything to him other than cuddle with them.
One woman.
He rubbed her stomach.
So there was nothing nefarious.

Speaker C (01:04:16):
There was nothing that makes me want to pu.

Speaker A (01:04:18):
Okay, I don't think.
I know.
I'm sorry.
Maybe I didn't say that right.
But you know what I'm saying.

Speaker C (01:04:24):
There would have been an injury.
I will.

Speaker B (01:04:25):
That's what happened if it was out here folding clothes.

Speaker A (01:04:32):
Yeah, that's what I said.
Lindsay.

Speaker C (01:04:35):
My own laundry.
I don't like it.

Speaker A (01:04:39):
Okay.

Speaker C (01:04:40):
No, I don't.
Oh, I'm not a fan of that.

Speaker A (01:04:44):
Okay, next story.
All right, here we go.
Let me find this one.
All right, so in 1911, an embalmed.
Embalmed course of McCurdy became a grimsideshow attraction throughout Texas.
Where people were eager to see the framecriminal on display in a funeral parlors and

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carnivals.
But here's the thing.
Do you guys.
Well, maybe Rhonda and Ryan will know this.
You remember the show the $6 million man?

Speaker D (01:05:18):
Yes.

Speaker A (01:05:19):
Okay. Supposedly, in 1976, $6 million man used this.
They thought it was a prop.
Okay.
And what they did was they tried to move thisprop and the arm fell off.
And then they found out it wasn't a prop, itwas a corpse.
True or false,
my Lord.
True or false?

Speaker D (01:05:38):
I'm going to say false.

Speaker C (01:05:43):
I'm gonna go with true.

Speaker B (01:05:45):
Yeah, true.
I'm gonna say true.

Speaker A (01:05:47):
Ding, ding, ding.
That is very true.
There was a corpse that was brought around thecarnivals, and it was put away in storage for,
like, props.
Like, someone bought it, you know, for a prop
for a show.
And it was actually.
Had been embalmed, so they were just gonna use
it, you know.
So you're probably saying, well, John would

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turn to a skeleton.
What are you talking about?
No, that's why I thought I might fool youguys.
No, it was embalmed.
It was like in Cabinet or something.
And in this show, the $6 million man, theyused it.
And when the guy, one of the directors or propguys tried to move it, the arm fell off.
And then they were like, wait a minute, thisis a real arm.
And so then they found out, you know, they hadto go through all the obvious press, but he

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was a criminal and he wanted to be embalmed.
I guess it's a weird, weird story,
but that is true.
Okay, that is true story.
And isn't that scary, though?How would you like to be on set and then, you
know, I can't.

Speaker C (01:06:44):
Even imagine what I would do if I tried to move something and, like, an actual
arm came off of my hand.
How traumatizing.
That poor person, whoever that happened to.

Speaker A (01:06:56):
I know.
It's just scary to me.
Just terrible.
Okay, so the next one, we'll do a couple morehere.
That's okay.
So people have said from time to time theyhave gone into a motel or hotel room and have
felt there is someone else in the room.

(01:07:18):
In fact,
maybe somebody under the bed.
Okay,
so according to this,
there was a couple in 1997 who was at a.
I don't know what it was called back then, butwe were caught a Super 8 now.
And they kept smelling things,

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weird stuff in the room.
It was,
you know, the couple kept, well, you know,going to the desk and saying, hey, you know, a
room smells.
Could you sell.
Could you have someone come in and checkthings out and.
And, you know, they would bring maintenance inthere.
I'll check the pipes and I'll check thetoilet.
Everything's good.
Oh,

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somebody said,
wait a minute, it's coming from the bed.
So used to be in hotel rooms, you could liftup the bed.
It was just on a frame and the frame washollow.
Okay?And some hotels, they don't do that anymore
for this particular purpose.
And when they lifted up the bed, they found adead woman's body.
Rotting corpse had been there for what theyestimated,

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a few months.
True or false?

Speaker B (01:08:27):
Oh, my gosh.
I'm gonna say I don't know.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
I'm gonna say truth, Lindsay.

Speaker C (01:08:34):
I am gonna say false because I want it to be false so badly.

Speaker D (01:08:38):
Like that Ryan thinking somebody just ding dong, ditched it, Lift it, hit it,
go.

Speaker A (01:08:48):
Ding, ding, ding.
That is true.
And it has actually happened three differenttimes where people who have stuffed bodies
into box springs under beds in hotel rooms.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker B (01:09:02):
That makes me not want to stay in a hotel anymore ever again.

Speaker C (01:09:05):
This is my nightmare.
I'm never leaving my house.

Speaker D (01:09:07):
Oh, wow.

Speaker A (01:09:08):
Here's like.
So we'll do two more, you know, just really
quickly here, because this one's a fun one.
Oh.
Back in Chicago in the 90s and.
Well, would.
They would call the projects.
I don't know your areas where you call them.
There was a number of murders, and the policecould not figure out what was happening, how
the people got into the room and murdered thepeople.

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They looked all around the room.
They could not find out why until one
policeman went into the bathroom to wash hishands,
and he was looking at the medicine cabinet,
and he noticed there was something weird withit.
So he took the medicine cabinet off and foundout behind the medicine cabinet, there was no

(01:09:56):
wall.
It connected directly to the other apartment.
So the person from the other apartment could
come into the other apartment and basically dowhatever they want to that person.
And there's really no evidence.
True or false.

Speaker C (01:10:11):
I want it to be false.
I'm gonna say true because I believe that it
could happen, but I want it to be false for mymental health.

Speaker A (01:10:18):
Okay, Ryan. Rhonda.

Speaker D (01:10:25):
Anything weird like that is the weird competition.

Speaker B (01:10:29):
I'll say true.

Speaker A (01:10:30):
Ding, ding, ding.
You're all right.
In fact, that movie, it was the impetus orwhatever you want to say for the movie
Candyman.

Speaker B (01:10:41):
Really? I was thinking redemption when they had, you
know, he had the poster on the wall, and he.
And he kept chipping away, and he had.
There's a big tunnel they made.
So Candyman.
Oh,
man.

Speaker A (01:10:53):
Yes. Remember in Candyman, the original movie?
Maybe I haven't seen the remake, but in theoriginal, you know, he'd come through the
mirrors.

Speaker C (01:11:00):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:11:01):
Well, so these criminals killed this poor black woman who was just this old
black woman that was just minding her ownbusiness, had no Money had nothing of value.
And these drug dealers would.
Because they didn't want her in that building.
So they used.
So they wanted to use her apartment to sell
drugs.
And she would not be.

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She would not leave.
They threatened her and everything.
Now they met this poor old lady, tried to, youknow, threaten her, and eventually they just
found out how to do it, and they went in, theymurdered her,
and she.
Yeah. And that's the only way they found out.
They couldn't figure.
The police couldn't figure out because there
was no, like, you know, somebody kicked in thedoor, you know, fourth century.

(01:11:41):
No. And she was on, like, the 12th floor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they.
They had to do it because they built thebuilding so cheaply that when the plumbers
would come in there, that's the only way theycould get to the.
Fix the pipes.
So they would just take off the medicine
cabinet,
go and fix the pipe, and then put it back in.
But they did it on each bathroom.

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So in other words, like, if you're a youngwoman,
and I'm sorry to say this, Lindsey, I'm sorry,but this is really scary.
A guy could just take off the medicine cap andpush yours open when you're, like, in the
shower or something, come right in, and youwouldn't know.
Gosh, no idea.

Speaker B (01:12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:12:18):
Absolutely terrifying.

Speaker B (01:12:19):
It's terrifying.

Speaker A (01:12:20):
Okay, last one, Last one.
You guys are doing pretty good.
I love it.
You know, you didn't think these are all true,
did you?
But they are.
Okay, so may you have heard this before.
So back in 1997, a woman, a young, singlewoman.
I'm going to pick on you.
Lindsay was driving home from her job late at

(01:12:41):
night.
While she was driving home, a vehicle was
tailing her, beeping and flashing their lightsand speeding up and trying.
Looks like they were trying to run her off theroad.
Her name was Sally Johnson.
And she.
She did a police report on this, supposedly.
And she was driving, and she eventually pulled
off the road.
She went to a gas station, and she ran in to

(01:13:03):
the gas station, and she told the guy, hey,the clerk there.
Someone.
I think someone is trying to hurt me.
There's this.
Something's going on.
And the clerk was, well, we'll call thepolice.
So I call the police.
Police show up, and she explains everything.
And anyway, the police say, well, you know,let's look at your car.
Maybe you had a light out, or maybe there wassomething wrong and the guy was trying to tell

(01:13:24):
you, like,
hey, you're leaking gas, or something likethat.
And that's happened Right.
Where maybe you honk at someone, like they
have their gas cap off or whatever, andyou're, like, honking at them, or maybe like
their little kid is sticking the face out thewindow and you're like, oh, get back in,
little kid.
And anyway, what they found was a bunch offingerprints and a knife in the back seat of

(01:13:50):
her car.
And what they determined was there was
somebody in the back seat of her car and wouldhave killed her if the.
The person wasn't flashing their lights.
Because they must have saw the guy.
I guess they saw the guy, like, get up.
It was about to stab her or choker or
whatever.
So true or false?

Speaker B (01:14:06):
I'm going to say true because I've heard a different version of this story.
And it was the same until she pulled into thegas station.
When she pulled into the gas station, she gotout of the car to go into the store, and a
woman followed her that had been getting gasat the pump and told her,
there's a man in the backseat of your car witha knife.

(01:14:30):
And I had.
So I'm gonna say true.

Speaker A (01:14:31):
Okay, Lindsey.

Speaker C (01:14:32):
I'm conflicted because I've heard this story before, but I don't know the
origins of it.
I feel like maybe it was on an episode of X
Files or something.
I'm gonna say.
I'll say true.
What the hell?
I'll say true.

Speaker D (01:14:46):
Right? Yeah, I mean, I believe that.
I mean, being in a situation like this, we'veall seen so many movies, like, everything is
based on some kind of.

Speaker A (01:14:57):
Absolutely false.

Speaker C (01:14:59):
Is it false?

Speaker A (01:15:00):
Absolutely false.

Speaker C (01:15:01):
Watch the last one be false.

Speaker A (01:15:02):
It's a. Yeah, I thought.
I thought you guys could be like, yeah, he's
probably doing it.
No, it's absolutely false.
That is an urban legend where people havesaid, you know, when they've been driving and.
And there's a man in the backseat.

Speaker B (01:15:13):
However.

Speaker A (01:15:14):
However, there is some truth to it.
About five years ago, a woman was, you know,
just driving home from work and everything,and she.
She pulled up to her house and then this guypopped up in her back seat.
It was an ex boyfriend, and he was upset thatthey broke up.
And he was trying to not scare her, but he wastrying to, like, say, hey, come back and let's

(01:15:38):
talk.
Maybe not the best way.

Speaker C (01:15:40):
Probably, like, this is going to be so romantic.

Speaker A (01:15:42):
Yeah, yeah, he's probably.
Yeah, he's probably thinking, it's kind of.

Speaker C (01:15:47):
Like, she's gonna be so, so happy to see me.

Speaker A (01:15:49):
And there are stories, too, where there have been.
People have snuck into cars because they'rehomeless or something.
And you open your car and there's a homelessguy with a kid or something, and you're like,
okay.
But it's not.
None of them has been, like, scary likesomeone has.
Yeah, you know, whatever.
So there you go, guys.
Thank you so much for playing.
You guys are awesome.

(01:16:09):
You did very good.
You did very, very good on that.
So wrapping up here, can you tell my spooky
friends what you guys got coming up forepisodes or are you doing some paranormal
visits or what's going on?

Speaker B (01:16:21):
One really exciting thing we have coming up at the end of this month is taking
place in Kingsport, Tennessee, and it iscalled Smoky Mountain Horror.
And we'll there.
We won't have a booth or anything set up.
We're just going to kind of go check it out.
There's a. It's always a lot of fun at the.
The horror cons.
You know,

(01:16:41):
Ryan's been to Smoky Mountain Terror Fest, butLindsay and I haven't.
So we're all going to go and experience ittogether and meet some new friends, you know,
and it's just neat getting together with a lotof paranormal folks.
And I definitely want to go to Missouri StatePenitentiary and Brown Mountain.
I definitely want to do that soon.
So hopefully we'll have that coming up, too,

(01:17:02):
that we can share with you.

Speaker A (01:17:03):
I love that.
Please do.
I will definitely be checking that out.
Lindsay or Ryan, anything you guys want to
bring up that maybe you're working on or.
Or thinking about?

Speaker C (01:17:12):
I was just gonna say if you want more stories, like tonight, you want to have a
good time, you can come on over.
Instagram, Facebook.
Where. Where else?YouTube,
TikTok, sirens of the supernatural.
But then on TikTok, we are at Supernatural
Sirens.

Speaker A (01:17:29):
Hey, Ryan.

Speaker C (01:17:31):
We have a lot of fun.
It's a good thing.

Speaker D (01:17:33):
We have fun.
We take reading stories.
We love reading these stories.
We love hearing input.
We take suggestions.
We're always looking for something new or do.
Like I said, it's sometimes as far as withwork schedules and living in three different
states.
Yeah. However,
like I said, when we do get together, it'sreally awesome.
I think we've got a couple Rhonda was talkingabout that we're trying to get done.

(01:17:57):
Some paranormal horror festivals coming up.
Maybe a trip to Missouri or some other
location soon.
There's some local.
Local places I'd like to go check out heresoon, too.

Speaker B (01:18:08):
Yes.

Speaker D (01:18:09):
And like I said, just depending on work schedules and stuff.

Speaker A (01:18:12):
Yeah.

Speaker D (01:18:13):
We might even do a couple live episodes sometime in the.
People love it.

Speaker B (01:18:17):
Lindsay and I have got to get Ryan to the Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum in West
Virginia.
He hasn't been.
And I'm looking forward to.

Speaker D (01:18:24):
They might not let me come out.

Speaker B (01:18:26):
They might not.

Speaker A (01:18:27):
It's that guy.
Forget it.

Speaker D (01:18:29):
Yeah, he is.
He's not.
That door.

Speaker A (01:18:32):
You get out that door.
No. That's awesome.
Thank you for all your great stories.
Again,
all the links to Sirens of Supernatural willbe in this episode.
Notes, please.
Look at their content and listen to them.
They're great.
I love them.
They're.
They're on my list of podcasts to listen to.
I listen to a lot of podcasts, folks.
I got a long commute to work, so I listen to awhole bunch.

(01:18:55):
Mostly independent because.
Right.
We want to.
We want to help each other.
The big guys have enough money.
They don't need any more of our money.
We're the ones who need a little more support
and love.
So awesome.
Thank you guys so, so much again.
And if you're ever looking for a guest, youknow, kind of like,
I.

Speaker B (01:19:15):
Definitely want to have you on.

Speaker A (01:19:16):
Yeah, bring me on.
I got some stories about Ed Gein, Jeffrey
Dahmer.
I got some.
Some fun ghost stories.
So I can bring that to you if you guys want totalk about.

Speaker B (01:19:25):
Yeah, definitely.
John, thank you so for having us.

Speaker C (01:19:29):
Absolutely.

Speaker A (01:19:29):
Thank you for coming over time.
I really appreciate it.
It means a lot to me.
So take care, guys, and stay spooky.
Hey, yeah,
this is John, your host of Dairyland Frights.
And make sure wherever you listen to Dairyland
Frights to rate and subscribe, this give usfive stars.
We truly appreciate it.
And make sure you give us a review so we can

(01:19:50):
see how we can improve the show, make itbetter and stay spooky.

Speaker D (01:20:01):
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