Wisconsin Hauntings, Cursed Dolls & Paranormal Encounters with Star Creepy Shit Podcast

In this chilling and wildly entertaining episode of Dairyland Frights, host John Radtke sits down with Wisconsin’s own Star, host of the Creepy Shit Podcast, for a deep dive into true paranormal encounters, haunted locations, cursed objects, and the darkest legends lurking in the Midwest and beyond

From haunted cemeteries and ghostly encounters in Wisconsin to infamous cursed dolls like Annabelle and Robert the Doll, this episode blends personal experiences, folklore, skepticism, and genuine fear, all with a conversational, darkly fun tone that paranormal fans love.

🕯️ What We Cover in This Episode 🔮 Star’s Paranormal Origin Story

• How childhood exposure to The Addams Family and Unsolved Mysteries sparked a lifelong fascination with the paranormal

• Why Star gravitated toward creepy storytelling instead of true crime

• Launching the Creepy Shit Podcast* and embracing the weird unapologetically

🏨 Real-Life Paranormal Encounters

• A rotating chandelier at the historic Brayton Inn (Oshkosh)

• The mischievous ghost “Eddie” at The Stone Cellar (Appleton)

• Lights flickering, unseen presences, and unexplainable physical sensations during investigations

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👶 Haunted Objects & Dark Energy

• Haunted dolls, cradles, and cursed artifacts

• Why energy “knows no bounds” and can travel during podcast interviews

• Protection rituals, sage, and cleansing practices for paranormal investigators

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😈 Cursed Dolls & Infamous Hauntings

• Annabelle: Real or hype?

• Robert the Doll: Why asking permission matters

• The Demon House (Gary, Indiana) and disturbing firsthand accounts

• Why some haunted locations should never be treated as tourist attractions

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🪦 Wisconsin’s Most Haunted Cemeteries

• Riverside Cemetery (Appleton) & the legend of Kate Blood

• Glenbeulah Cemetery – headless apparitions and glowing graves

• Spiritland Cemetery (Plainfield) and its connection to Ed Gein

• Whitewater’s Witch Triangle, spiritualism history, and grave desecration cases.

🦇 Cryptids & Urban Legends

• Wisconsin sightings of Mothman

• Beast of Bray Road folklore

• The terrifying Bloody Bride Bridge (Sheboygan)

• Why cemeteries may act as paranormal portals

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⚠️ Paranormal Warning

This episode discusses disturbing paranormal activity, cursed objects, satanic rituals, and violent historical events. Listener discretion is advised.

🎧 Listen & Connect

• 🎙️ Dairyland Frights Podcast – Hosted by John Radtke

• 🎧 Guest Podcast: Creepy Shit with Star

• 📸 Follow Star on Instagram for daily creepy stories

• ⭐ Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts

Episode Transcript

Speaker A (00:00):
Foreign.
This is John, your host of Dairyland Frights.
And make sure wherever you listen to Dairyland
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(00:20):
We truly appreciate it.
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see how we can improve the show, make itbetter,
and stay spooky.
Welcome to Dairyland Frights, the paranormalpodcast that covers everything spooky,
creepy and mysterious in the Midwest andbeyond.
And today,

(00:41):
I am truly blessed to have one of my favoritepodcasters and also social media.
What I want to call her, it's a Parasconibecause she's from Wisconsin.
She's in the paranormal.
This is.
I love this.
She's in the paranormal.
She's awesome.
And she's from Wisconsin.
It is Star from the Creepy and **** podcast.

(01:06):
Welcome.

Speaker B (01:06):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker A (01:09):
It is my pleasure,
Star. It is awesome.
If you don't have an opportunity, I don't know
why, what's wrong with you?Go over to her social media sites, on
Instagram, you can talk more about it andeverything where.
Where she is.
And she tells these great creepy stories, youknow, and it's just really.
I just love the enthusiasm you bring,

(01:30):
and I love that some are just.
Yeah, that's creepy.
That is creepy.
And so let me ask you this.
I always ask my guests this.
It's a pretty generic question, like, how did
you get started in the paranormal?What kind of motivated you?
Or, you know, just, you know, one day yousaid, let's do this.

Speaker B (01:48):
Well, okay, if we really back it up, way back.

Speaker A (01:51):
So let's back it up.

Speaker B (01:53):
Then I would definitely say it probably all started right around the age of
7, 8, 9, somewhere right in there.
And my mom had this card game where if you
ever played war with like, a deck of cards,like a deck of regular cards, she had it.
But it was in the style of the Addams Family,

(02:13):
so super vintage game from, like, herchildhood.
And I remember playing and I was like, who arethese people?
Like, who is this?
And my mom's,
you know, only the best family ever to haveexisted in, like, cinematic history, because
my mom's a huge Adams fan, Addams Family fan.
And then she introduced me to it, and I

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started watching, like, it, like the old TVshow, like, in black and white.
And I just loved how different they were andso unapologetic about it.
And then I think shortly after, like, thattimeframe, that's when Unsolved Mysteries came
out.
And, yeah, and I look back at it, and I waslike, oh, my God, I was way too young for that

(02:55):
show, but my parents let me watch it because,you know,
I'm Gen X.
So I'm absolutely like, you know, came outokay.

Speaker A (03:04):
All right, well, that's good.

Speaker B (03:05):
And so that's where like it all really started.
And then somewhere around like the, you know,your early years, I started like, you know,
maybe that's just a little too weird forpeople.
And you're still pretty self conscious in your20s.
So I stopped talking about it and just didn'tthink much of it.

(03:26):
And I was doing a different type of podcast,but it was no longer resonating for me.
And I'm like, I still want a podcast, but I'mnot really sure what I want a podcast about.
I didn't.
So one of my friends prompted me and she's
like, you know what?
She's like, I know you, I know you well.
She's like, you love paranormal stuff.
You should just check this out.

(03:46):
Funny thing is,
I didn't even know like a specific paranormalpodcast even existed.
I thought it was just like always true crimeor something like that.
And I'm like, yeah, I like that, but I don'tlove that.
And I'm like, I like the spooky, the kind ofcreepy, you know, like, is it, isn't it?
You know, that kind of thing.

(04:07):
And she's like, go check out this podcast and
then see what you think.
And. And I was like, okay.
And I never,
like, it occurred to me, like, okay, yes, Ican do this.
And that happened probably late last year.
And then I got to work on doing like, researchand like all of that stuff to like, kind of
get some stories put together.

(04:29):
And then I launched the podcast in May of thisyear.

Speaker A (04:32):
Yeah, it's a wonderful podcast.
And let me correct myself, I. I said creepy
*** ****.
It is the creepy **** podcast,
but it's creepy as ****.
So that's what I meant, you know.
So there you go, folks.
Don't worry.
All the links and everything will be in there.
So I'll have that.
You, you can go and,
you know, see Star and it's great onInstagram.

(04:56):
That's where I found her.
And her podcast is awesome and stuff.
So I have to ask, when was your firstparanormal experience and what was it about?
What happened?

Speaker B (05:06):
Oh, that's a great question.
So the first one that I really, truly rememberwas I was going to the Bradison in Oshkosh and
I was going to go there.
I was going to be doing and helping and
assisting with a hair show that was Going onbecause I do cosmetology by day at that time.

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And there was, I remember being in that lobbyand there's three, like really huge
chandeliers in the lobby.
And I was up in the balcony and I was walking
through and all of a sudden I look at allthree of those and only one of them is like
slowly rotating around.

(05:54):
And I'm like, okay.
And now the skeptic in me is like, okay,
where's the vent?Is there a fan somewhere?
You know, like something like that.
And I'm looking at him, looking.
I'm like, I don't see anything near it.
So I'm like, okay.
And I had heard someone say like before I
went, they're like, that particular hotel ishaunted.
And I'm like,
really?So I was very excited, but I didn't expect

(06:16):
anything.
And then I, I just caught that and I was like,
yeah.
So I'm a believer.
I didn't see anything immediately to dismiss
it.
So I'm like, I'm going to take that with what
it's worth.

Speaker A (06:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
Has there been any other paranormal events?

Speaker B (06:32):
Oh, gosh.

Speaker A (06:34):
Yeah. So let's talk about it.

Speaker B (06:36):
Oh, yeah.
I think one of my favorite ones was when I was
at the Stone Cellar.

Speaker A (06:42):
Where's that?

Speaker B (06:43):
It's a restaurant in Appleton.
Oh my gosh.
And their food, like, seriously, I'm such afoodie.
Their food is like, it's so good.
It's.

Speaker A (06:52):
You're making me hungry.

Speaker B (06:53):
Stop it.
Yeah, so I would,
if you ever get a chance to go, go.
So it's down between the locks over on Old
Oneida street in Appleton.
And I down in that.
Where the, where the brewery is,
you walk down and it opens to a, to a bar.
If you take it left, it takes you to

(07:13):
additional seating.
And if you go right,
there's a long hallway with kind of like aprivate party room.
And then the restrooms are back there.
And of course I had to use the restroom.
So I went over and I, you know, did the girlything.
And I'm in the bathroom and all of a suddenthe lights go out and I'm like, hey.

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And all of a sudden the lights came back onimmediately.
Now the funny thing is about that I was theonly one in the bathroom.
It was only a two stall bathroom.
And that door to the bathroom is old as, youknow what, like it's old as dirt.
So it's ancient.
And it's probably like, honestly, it's
probably the original door.

(07:55):
So it's like mad.
I would have Heard if somebody would have camein.
So I'm like, okay, that's weird.
And so I'm like, you know what?Just gonna wash my hands, get back to my
table.
So I wash my hands, I start to leave.
And I don't know why.
I don't know why I do the things that I do,But I turned around and I looked, and you
know, like, underneath the door, you have,like, that line of light.

(08:17):
And I saw the lights go out.
And I saw the lights go back on.
And I saw the lights go out.
And I'm like, okay, I'm going back to my
table.

Speaker A (08:25):
Yeah.

Speaker B (08:26):
So I'm like, I just had the weirdest thing happen.
And the waitress is, like, in the bathroom.
And I'm like, yeah.
And she's like,
you met Eddie?And I was like, what?

Speaker A (08:36):
Eddie? Okay.

Speaker B (08:37):
So apparently a very friendly ghost who likes to.
I wouldn't say torment, because I definitelydidn't feel like a malevolent spirit,
but, yeah.
Likes to tease the ladies a little bit.
And I was like, okay.
I'm like, okay.
I'm like, if that.
That be the case, I'm like, all right, that's

(08:58):
cool.

Speaker A (08:58):
Yeah. Ye. Yeah.
That reminds me of a haunting I did.
There is a haunted house in St. Louis,Missouri, where supposedly a ghost is like
Eddie, who likes to peer over the lady'sstall.
Yeah.
Imagine that, star.
Imagine you're doing your business,

(09:19):
and then you look up and there's some ghostlyfigure just staring down at you.

Speaker B (09:25):
Oh, my goodness.
I would so scream.
I'd be like, oh, my God.

Speaker A (09:31):
Yeah.
Who wouldn't?
Who wouldn't?Like, come on.
Yeah, that's really interesting.
And you said, you know, you didn't feel like
it was evil or anything like that.
It was just kind of messing with you.

Speaker B (09:43):
Yeah.

Speaker A (09:44):
Yeah. I love those stories because that reminds me of all.
Like, you're talking about that door.
And people forget in the paranormal, there's atheory called stone tape theory.
And basically, it's anything thing that has,
for example, Gettysburg.
It absorbs all the negative energy.
It absorbs all the blood, the guts, andeverything.

(10:06):
So when you go in there, it's just full ofhate and pain and.
You know what I mean?

Speaker B (10:12):
Yes.

Speaker A (10:12):
And things like that.
Yeah.

Speaker B (10:14):
It's like a thickness.

Speaker A (10:16):
Yeah, yeah.
And that can go for any object.

Speaker B (10:19):
Yeah.

Speaker A (10:19):
That can go for a door,
that can go for a sink.
Like, if somebody was, like, murdered and fell
against that door and bled to death on thatdo.
And that was their last time,
you know, they,
you know, saw life and you died.
There.
Yeah.

Speaker B (10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker A (10:36):
Probably could touch that door and be like, wow, this is.
Something's off.
Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker B (10:42):
Definitely.

Speaker A (10:43):
I think that's really cool.
Yeah.
Any paranormal experience that really, thoughscared you, like, you were like, okay, I'm
scared.
I'm out.

Speaker B (10:52):
Oh, not.
Not really.
Because usually, like, if would I have hadsomething happen,
I've.
I've been more, like, authoritative than
scared.
So, like, I. I really have it.
Thankfully, I definitely don't want that to
happen because I definitely know a few storiesthat would scare me if I did encounter that

(11:13):
kind of energy or that any sort of thatresidual haunting, like, I'd be like, nope.

Speaker A (11:18):
Yeah, right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.

Speaker B (11:21):
Thankfully, I haven't had anything really, truly, like, scare me.

Speaker A (11:25):
Good. Yeah. Again, you know, from interviewing people all over the world and
everything like that, and people living inhaunted houses and everything,
it always amazes me, Star. Like, I'veinterviewed numerous people who grew up in a
haunted house,
who live in a haunted house right now, whohave lived in a haunted house.
And the funny thing about it is what they sayto me is kind of, like, interesting.

(11:49):
It's kind of taken away some of thestereotypes because you think a haunted house
is like, every time you go in there, there's ademon following you around.
Because it's movies, right?
Yeah, it's the movies that, you know, andgetting the clicks.
You know what I mean?Like, oh, my God, there's a shadow girl in the
basement and she wants to hang you.
And, you know, she trips over the stairs.

(12:10):
Like, one of my favorite scenes in the
conjuring,
the first one where the wife is goingdownstairs and the door is locked and she's
trying to get out, and then these two handscome out of nowhere and clap right in front of
her.
Oh, my God.
I was just like,
that was awesome.
That was a great scene.

Speaker B (12:30):
But speaking of, that reminds me.

Speaker A (12:32):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker B (12:33):
Movie that I ever screamed out loud on.
Okay, I'd like, did you?And it was with Jamie Lee Curtis, but it
wasn't Halloween.
It was a movie called Mother's Boys.
I don't know if you remember this movie.

Speaker A (12:45):
Sure. Yeah.

Speaker B (12:46):
And it's like this where the kid is dreaming about her and she's not, you know,
she's obviously not a very good mom.
She's very creepy mom.
And she, like, in the dream, she's standing inthis door frame, and all of a sudden it, like,
pan forwards, like, super fast.
And I wasn't expecting it.
And I'm like,

(13:06):
that scared me.

Speaker A (13:08):
Yeah. I love that.
I love that.
So let me ask you, what is your favoritecreepy story or, you know, that you've brought
up or just news or anything that you've gone,wow, this is.
I got to let people know this.
This is really creepy ****.

Speaker B (13:25):
There's.
There's been a few, and I've got a few in my
arsenal right now, too, that I've come acrossare not very well known.

Speaker A (13:33):
Sure.

Speaker B (13:34):
And one of them is.
One of them is for Wisconsin, and I'm going to
be doing an upcoming episode on that one.
And maybe you know it, maybe you don't know
it, but the novitiate.
Do you know about the novitiate?

Speaker A (13:46):
No, I don't know about that one.

Speaker B (13:48):
It's. It's out in Gresham.
It's an old mansion, and it has got a very,
like, I'm only just getting into the researchon it right now, but it's got a really dark
history.
There's been a shootout there.
There's some alleged hauntings going on there.
And it's currently under renovation for a bedand breakfast, but it's been under that

(14:09):
renovation, and this is where I want to digin.
It's been under that reserve, like, thatrepair for just a little bit too long.
Like, you know what I mean?Like, we're going on years here, and it's
like, okay, what happened?Was it funding?
Was it something else?Like, you know, I want to know more.
So there's that one, and then one of the otherones that.

(14:30):
That I think is, like, truly terrifying is theCorpsewood Manor.
That.
That is a very, very scary story to me.
I'm like, that.
That's what.
That I wouldn't go and mess around with.
That's not something I want to go see.

Speaker A (14:44):
Like, okay, tell me.
Tell me more.
Like, where is it?Kind of get a little tease for my audience.

Speaker B (14:50):
Sure. So Corpsewood Manor is down in the Chattahoochee National Forest in the
northern woods of, like, Georgia.
And the.
The man who put this together, who put
together Corpsewood Manor, literally builtthis mansion by hand.
And he was like.
He was a professor at Loyola University,

(15:14):
and he was.
He had a lot of other secrets going on.
And this is during the time of the satanic
panic and also the time of when, like, gay andgay rights were still very much like, we don't
talk about that.
We don't expose ourselves that way kind of athing or come out of the closet that way.

(15:34):
And so he was both of those things,
and he decided.
Him and his partner decided to just Go out in
the middle of the nowhere, build their ownhouse, live off the grid.
They did it all by hand.
And word got around town, of course, like,these two are out in the woods, and two
gentlemen did not like that.
So they went and unfortunately, they murdered

(15:58):
him and his two dogs.
He had two dogs.
And really, like, really sad, really tragic,
because the whole thing was, is that theythought the guys who were robbing him thought
that he had money.
They're like, oh, he's got to be loaded.
He lives out in the middle of nowhere.
He's got this big house, you know, whatever,whatever.
Well, they literally walked away with, like, ahandful of change and a.

(16:20):
And a silver candlestick.
Like, they didn't get away with anything.

Speaker A (16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker B (16:25):
And justice was served.
They did get caught.
One of them is still serving life in prison aswe speak today.
But the grounds and the ru for that home,because it did wind up caught in catching on
fire.
And Dr. Scudder was known for doing a lot ofsatanic rituals down in his basement.
And so people have reported,

(16:46):
like, very dark, ominous presence.
People have walked away physically bruised,
scratched, like, all of those kind of things.
And I'm like, that's not something that I'd
want to play with.
That's not something I'd want to go hike out
in the woods for or anything like that.
I'm like, that's where I would draw the line.
Like, that's a little scary to me.

Speaker A (17:05):
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah. You know,
one of the things which is really interestingis I don't know if you've heard about the.
If you've already done it, maybe you coveredthis.
The demon house in Gary, Indiana,
that is one of the few houses that they have apriest, a doctor, police officer,

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and numerous other people who saw the demonand saw the kids,
like, do just things like walking on thewalls, like,
crazy stuff.
Now,
unfortunately, and this is where it gets alittle cloudy, right.
It gets a little messy.
There is no evidence.
Right. This happened fairly recently.

(17:48):
We're talking early 2000s.
Oh, you know, a lot of people, when I'vebrought this up, this topic, they're like,
well,
why didn't they take a picture?Why don't they do that?
Well, they were.
They were a poor black family, so maybe.
I don't know, maybe they didn't have cellphones or if you think about it, if you're
sitting there and all of a sudden your kidstarts walking on the walls,

(18:09):
is the first thing you're gonna do is grabyour phone and be like, hey,
this Is really cool.

Speaker B (18:15):
Can you just hang on? I'll be right back.

Speaker A (18:18):
Tilt your head.
Tilt your head.
I want to get this portrait.
I mean, I understand.
But anyway,
it's a really, really fascinating storybecause again, they've interviewed police
officers who were called to the house.
And I believe them.
I mean, why would you make this up, right?
And the priest.
And then when they went to the hospital to

(18:39):
look at these kids, the doctors saw themlevitating and saw the kids.
You know, it's a crazy story.
They did a documentary, Bagel Bites.
Zach Baggins did a.
Did a documentary that used to be on AmazonPrime.
I'm not sure if it's still there called DemonHouse, where he was actually possessed.
Like he lost his sight, according to him.

(19:02):
Like he was blind for a while because he stoodin the house overnight by himself.

Speaker B (19:06):
That's pretty.

Speaker A (19:07):
Where you want to take it? And unfortunately, you cannot go to that house
because he tore it down.
Okay?
He had it torn down.
He ripped it.

Speaker B (19:15):
Really.

Speaker A (19:16):
It's no longer there.

Speaker B (19:17):
Okay.

Speaker A (19:17):
However,
the land is still there, obviously, and theplot is still there.
And people go there and do satanic ritualsstill.
They believe it's a gateway to hell that isletting demons.
It's an interesting story.
But you know,
the funny thing about it, when I wasresearching this, and this is be my next
question for you.
When I was researching this, I felt strange.

(19:38):
So sometimes I research things, you know, wheneverybody's.
All my kids and the family's gone to bed, noone's bugging me.
So I'm a night owl.
So sometimes I'd be up like one o' clock in
the morning.
I was researching something.
And I'll tell you, Star, when I wasresearching, I felt strange.
And then right in my office door, I, you know,I have it closed.
I felt this presence on the other side of thedoor when I was researching the demon and

(20:01):
researching the house.
And I just felt strange.
So I went to the door.
I think it's.
Maybe it's my kid,
one of my kids or my wife saying, hey, get thebed.
You know, why you up so **** late?But when I reach for the doorknob,
there was.
Part of me said, do not open this door.
Do not open this door.
And I backed away.

(20:22):
And I still felt a weird presence there.
And to this day, it freaks me out.
And I. And I just wrapped up my research andeverything.
I stopped researching.
And eventually I stood in here and kind ofcalmed myself down because I was.
I was having some anxiety about it.
And then I opened the door, and there was no
nothing behind it.
But have you.

(20:42):
My question is, have you ever been researching
something and then you just.
Something's off, you feel a little weird, and
you got to stop, or you feel like somebody'swatching you or something?

Speaker B (20:52):
I haven't had it in researching, but I've had it in podcasting, like, where
I'm.
Where I finally have everything put together
and I'm really telling the story.
And I have.
I have had moments where I almost.
And the biggest one that stands out is I had aguest on the show,
and she is an expert in haunted objects, andshe did the podcast from her haunted objects

(21:18):
room in her house.
And it's very cool room.
I.
Throughout the.
The process in the interview, I suddenly felt
kind of faint and kind of nauseous.
And I know one of them is.
She's got, like.
She's got some really cool objects.
She's got a haunted cradle.
She's got haunted dolls.
And, like, the room is just really fascinating

(21:40):
because I was, like, trying to, you know,like, look.
I'm like, what do you got in there?

Speaker A (21:44):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker B (21:46):
So. And she said, there is.
There was one particular spirit in there who
tends to get a little grumpy and a littleterritorial.
And I really, like, I sometimes wonder.
I'm like.
Was something, like.
I'm like, did I pick up something?
Did it, like.
Because we were in the middle of that, like,
you know.

Speaker A (22:03):
Yeah.

Speaker B (22:03):
How does that.
How to.
How could that energy work?You know?
And someone said.
Someone had said, like, oh,
you know, energy knows no bounds.
And I'm like, that is true.
It's.
It's always moving in and out of form.
It always is, never wasn't.
And that kind of makes sense, you know?
So I'm like, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Needless to say, there was some sage and somecrystals involved in my pockets for the rest

(22:27):
of the day.

Speaker A (22:28):
Yes, yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
So as long as we're on this topic, I have toknow, I always ask all my paranormal people,
Annabelle, what do you think?
Real. Not real.
What's going on with that thing?

Speaker B (22:41):
Okay.

Speaker A (22:42):
Like, it's weird, right? Why are people, like, dying?

Speaker B (22:45):
And then, like,
yeah, I honestly, that is one where it's like,initially I kind of wondered.
I'm like, okay, this could be a little bit ofhype, a little bit of hocus pocus, you know?

Speaker A (22:57):
Absolutely.

Speaker B (22:58):
Well, then stuff just started happening.
Then.
Then you started tampering with things that
were literally put behind glass for a reason.
And whatever you think of Ed and Lorraine,like, whether you thought they were real,
whether you thought they were, like, you know,a little bit more for, you know, the
entertainment value, honestly, I'm going tosay they were probably a little bit of both.

(23:20):
I think both can totally coexist in that.
In that realm.
And I just think.
Because that doesn't make them wrong.
You know what I mean?
So I'm like, you put that behind some glassfor a reason,
and when you handled it, you handled it withgloves initially.
So I just feel that you probably shouldn'thave tampered with that.

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And then all that stuff started to happen andI was like, okay, yeah, no, I'm a believer.
That's not.
That's not.
I don't believe one.
I don't believe in coincidences, period.
I just don't.
Yeah,
that's just me.
But too many things happened where I'm like,there's absolutely no way in my eyes that that
could all be coincidence.

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But that's just.

Speaker A (24:03):
Yeah.

Speaker B (24:04):
I never naysay anybody who thinks otherwise has a different perspective, because
I'm always open to talking about it.
But, yeah, for me, I'm like,
nope, I'm a believer on that one.

Speaker A (24:14):
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I have a love and not hate.
That's not the right word.
But, you know, if you look into Ed Warren,
he's very sketch dude.

Speaker B (24:26):
Very, very sketchy dude.
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker A (24:29):
His relationship with the A minor.
Yeah, you can look into that.
That's under public record.
That is not made up.
That is not.
A lot of people say, oh, that's a smearcampaign.
They're smearing them.
No, that's.
That's real.

Speaker B (24:40):
It is.

Speaker A (24:41):
And Lorraine was kind of.
He. He did unfortunately beat Lorraine.
He was very mean to her.
A lot of domestic abuse in there,
you know, some, like,
part of.
And a lot of it with the movies.
So, for example, I talked to people from theuk.
I love my UK people.
They're so interesting.

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One of the things they talked about is thisone gentleman said, oh, you know, in the
Conjuring 2, where the Enfield Poltergeist,where Ed and Lorraine Warren was this huge.
No, they weren't.
They were there 15 minutes.
They took a thing recording and got on theplane and went back home.
Yeah, that was it.

Speaker B (25:19):
They didn't squat.

Speaker A (25:21):
In fact, the people who own the house said they made it worse.
So, I mean,
I get it.
They have that museum, which is now with this
comedian named Matt Rife, who bought it with.
With a partner, which I think is absolutely
hilarious.

Speaker B (25:38):
Thank you.

Speaker A (25:40):
But I'm if it is so.
If it is truly what they say,
they have cursed objects in there.
You can't just keep it,
like, you know, like, your closet.
Like, I should go in my closet and get some of
my old clothes out and donate it to Goodwillor St. Vinny's or whatever.
No, these are, like, supposedly satanicrituals, you know, have been done with

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objects, you know, These are cursed objectsthat are really bad.

Speaker B (26:10):
Supposedly.

Speaker A (26:11):
Yes, allegedly.
Okay. Shouldn't someone be going in there
every day with their crystals and theirblessings and being like, okay, put a little.

Speaker B (26:20):
Ring of salt around it.

Speaker A (26:21):
Wig. A little ring of salt.
Let's.
Let's do that.
And everybody kind of treats it like, okay,
come on in.
Give me 10 bucks and you can take a look.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Because somebody asked me, and I'll ask you
the same question.
Would I go in there?
I said, absolutely not.
Without protection, I would have someone I
trust with me that knows how to properly sage,

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probably give me proper crystals and probablycleanse me once I leave.
Because we just said that energy has nobounds.
So if I go in there,
Right.
Well, what do you think's gonna happen?

Speaker B (26:53):
Something's gonna say that not a piece of.
Attached to you in some way.

Speaker A (26:57):
Exactly.

Speaker B (26:57):
You know, like, no, thank you.

Speaker A (26:59):
Yeah, same question.
So you're the same way, too.
What would you do if invited to see it?

Speaker B (27:04):
100%.
I honestly, I don't even know if I would go.
I really don't.

Speaker A (27:09):
Yeah, I'd be on the fence.

Speaker B (27:11):
Yeah, I would be very on the fence.
If I did, much like you, I would make sure
that I have all the proper things to cleanseand to make sure that nothing attaches to me.
And even then, I would.
That kind of stuff where you have it that
locked up for that long.
Just saying.
Lions don't like to be caged, and I'm prettysure spirits don't either.

Speaker A (27:32):
Absolutely.

Speaker B (27:33):
So I. I just don't think it's a good idea.

Speaker A (27:36):
You're. You're totally.
We are totally sinking on that, you know, and
just to kind of treat it like a nonchalantkind of thing, like it's a museum that has,
like, I don't know, tobacco pipes in it.
Like, no, this is.
This is serious stuff.
This caused havoc.

Speaker B (27:53):
Yes.

Speaker A (27:53):
To people, you and me.
All right.
You know, I'm like.

Speaker B (27:57):
Because there's such a difference between.
There's such a difference between, like, ahouse of oddities, like house on the rock
versus Correct.
You know, versus something like this,
where it actually has to do with a lot of darkentities and paranormal activity.
Like,
those are things like paranormal activity andthose types of entities,

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they deserve one.
They deserve space to.
They deserve respect and not to be toyed with.

Speaker A (28:25):
Yes.

Speaker B (28:25):
Like, it's just not a good idea.

Speaker A (28:27):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You know, and the other one that I think isreally interesting is Robert the Dow.
And I think that is real because I've spoke topeople.
Robert the Dow in Florida is supposedly thiscursed doll that this one gentleman basically
was like his best friend for a while.
If you haven't researched it, Star, I don'tknow if you know much about it.

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Go research.

Speaker B (28:49):
It's not about that one.

Speaker A (28:50):
Go research it.
That is.
I'm giving you a free topic.

Speaker B (28:54):
Okay.

Speaker A (28:55):
You will love this.
You will love this.
So it's behind some glass.
And what you have to do,
and this is truthful, you have to go to Robertthe Dow.
And if you take a picture, you have to say,robert, is it okay I take your picture?
If you do not do that, People have like,gotten cancer.
People have like gotten into serious caraccidents.

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People have died.
And you're going to go, okay, yeah, but that
can happen, right?Unfortunately, you know,
and like.
But it's usually.
And when I was told, like this one gentleman Ihad on and this one woman I had on Paranormal
Investigators and I was seen the dial.
And you know, it's creepy too.
You can look at pictures later.
Went in there and they.

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Everyone tells stories, like the keeper of itor the, you know, the person in charge manager
there will be like, you know, this hashappened.
I want to tell you this.
So when you go there, do not knock on the
glass.
Do not make fun.
You know, you've got to ask if you can takethe picture.
And so they did all that and they.
They were fine.
But he tells stories,

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or she tells stories of this not going verywell.
And people are mocking the doll, like, oh,
because it looks like an old 1920s.
He has like the button eyes, you know.

Speaker B (30:08):
Yeah.

Speaker A (30:09):
Like it was made like by someone and the person.
When you go into deeper research, this personwho had the doll was kind of a unfortunately
mentally challenged person.
And they were up in the attic with this dowel
and they would talk to it like it's a normalperson.
And, you know, there was very, very seriousissues going on and very serious issues that

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once this dial was moved and now it's underprotection in Florida, of all places.
Not to make fun of Florida, but I'm like,that's kind of weird.
Why didn't the Warrens, grab that one.
Because that one,
in my opinion, this is my opinion, is worsethan Annabelle.
I mean, there's legitimate proof that thisstyle has caused people to die or people to

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get really, really sad.
And it's interesting.
And not.
Not to say that Annabelle has not done that,but typically not in the fashion that Robert
the doll had.

Speaker B (31:06):
Sure.

Speaker A (31:06):
Yeah. And it's, it's freaky in the doll.
Like, Annabelle, it looks like you're, youknow, looks like if you walking down the mall
and little girls playing with it, you wouldn'tbe like, oh, my God,
like,
what are you doing?
Like, that's hers.

Speaker B (31:23):
Yes.

Speaker A (31:23):
Robert Dadal looks like that.
If you saw somebody play with, you'd be like,
I'm going this way.

Speaker B (31:28):
Yeah, you know, I'm just going to go the other way.
We're cool.

Speaker A (31:31):
Going to go on the other side.
Hey, parents, maybe you want to tell you how
to raise your kids, but whatever.
So.

Speaker B (31:38):
Yeah.

Speaker A (31:38):
So, So a really interesting thing.
So before we get into our topic today, what is
your favorite Wisconsin cryptid?
You have a cryptid you like?There's a lot.
Beast of Bray Road, Goatman.
There's some serpents.
There's.
There's a lot of fun stuff.

Speaker B (31:53):
Never any serpents.
I am very anti serpent.

Speaker A (31:58):
Anti serpent.
I got you.

Speaker B (32:00):
Serpents totally scare me.
They.
They really scare me.
Gosh.
Initially.
And I don't know if it's anything specifically
Wisconsin related, but I've always been a fanof Mothman.

Speaker A (32:10):
Mothman, yes,
Mothman.
Mothman has been seen in Wisconsin.
A Mothman.
Really interesting.
Here's another free one for you,
Sar. A Mothman has been seen in Chicago andhas been seen around the o' Hare Airport.

Speaker B (32:23):
Oh, that wouldn't surprise me.
That would not surprise me at all.
Like, seriously, Because.
Okay.
I also heard of a story too that there isactually a cemetery, like, almost right
behind.

Speaker A (32:34):
Correct? That is correct.

Speaker B (32:36):
And I'm like, you know, that just makes sense.
Sense for it to have.
Because in a lot of ways sometimes I think,
you know, if you believe in portals and likethat kind of thing, like, cemeteries can be a
good,
good portal station.
Like, they really can.
I would not be surprised at all that.
That would be.
Nope.
I believe that.

Speaker A (32:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
How about.
Well, mine is Beast of Bray Road.
It's been around forever and ever and ever.
A werewolf guy?A guy that turns into a werewolf.
Come on.
I love it.
You know, or do we know if it's a guy thatturns into a werewolf?
I don'.
But it's been around.
Oh, My God. Since, like, the 30s and 40s,people claim to see the Beast of Bray Road.

(33:17):
If you go out there, it's kind of funny.
I've been out there.
It's a woods.
And, you know, I kind of hung out.
And, you know, I'm not, like, saying I campedout there or anything, but I just kind of hung
out, you know, at night with me and mybuddies, and we just kind of hung out.
We just kind of listened and we never heardanything.
But not to say that isn't true.

Speaker B (33:35):
Sure. Right.
Okay.

Speaker A (33:36):
Favorite urban legend in Wisconsin.
Are you familiar with any urban legends in
Wisconsin?And what would be your favorite?

Speaker B (33:44):
I don't know if I am or not.
Like, the only.
I think when.
When it comes to that, I immediately go to.
And I know we're probably going to discuss it,but I immediately go into, like, Cape Blood,
because I feel like, yeah, she was such a.

Speaker A (34:00):
That's an urban legend.

Speaker B (34:02):
Such a, like, staple.
And I remember hearing about her constantly in
high school and all of that.
She was always one that I.
For the longest in time, until I did my ownresearch on it.
I, like, really always wondered, like, huh,maybe she's totally a witch.
Like, yeah, okay.

Speaker A (34:19):
Awesome.
I love that.
I love it.
Yeah.
I love the ****** Bride Bridge.
The ****** Bride Bridge.

Speaker B (34:27):
Where's that? I've never heard of that.

Speaker A (34:30):
So that one is in Sheboygan.
I've been over this bridge, too.
If you're ever in Sheboygan, you're kind ofnear it.

Speaker B (34:38):
Yeah, I'm about two hours away.

Speaker A (34:40):
Yeah, you're about two hours away.
So it's.
Yeah. I mean, if you're just, like, wanting totake a trip.
So this will.
You'll love this.
Because you've already told me this scaresyou, so it's just going to scare you.
So if you go across this bridge, usually atnight, what will happen is one or two things.
One, you'll be driving over the bridge, andyou will see a woman in a wedding dress have

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blood on her.
Okay. And people will pick her up becausethey'll be like, oh, my God, she got it.
You know what he's thinking?Like, why is there a woman in a wedding dress
in the middle of the night,
blood over her?
I'm not sure if I'm gonna pick her up, butsome people do because we're.
We're good people in Wisconsin.

Speaker B (35:19):
Midwestern people are good people.

Speaker A (35:22):
Yeah. So pick her up.
Right.
She's in the front seat.
The person's like, oh, I'm gonna get you the
hospital what's your name?Blah, blah, blah, blah.
The woman will just sit there and just starestraight ahead.
And, you know, you're frantic, right?You're like, oh, my God, you know,
where's your car?You know what happened?
You're freaking out, right?And then as soon as you get over the bridge,
she disappears.

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She's not.

Speaker B (35:43):
That's.
That's definitely creepy.

Speaker A (35:46):
The worst.
I haven't gotten to the worst part.
The other part that happens is you're drivingover and this would freak me out.
Sorry.
This would freak me the f out.
You're driving on the bridge.
You look in your rear view mirror, and guess
who's in the back seat?
She is.
Yes. In her wedding dress.
Ghostly image.

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Blood on her face, blood all over her wedding
dress.

Speaker B (36:09):
Oh, my gosh.
I'd get out of the car and run.
And I don't even know if that's a good idea ornot.

Speaker A (36:14):
So. Now, what's interesting about this one is again, a police officer back in
the 60s, 70s.
If you go research the story, it's really
interesting.
He supposedly picked her up and was like, I'll
get you.
You know, I'll get you to the hospital, miss,you know, and then we'll get back and we'll
get your car, whatever.
We're gonna make sure you're okay.
And that's what happened to him.

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He got over the.
Over the bridge and she was gone.
And he swears to God.
He swears to God on a stack of Bibles that shewas in the car.

Speaker B (36:45):
I believe him.
I believe him.

Speaker A (36:47):
And numerous other reports again, of people picking her up, looking in their
rear view, seeing her freaking out like we alldo.
And there's so many urban legends inWisconsin.

Speaker B (36:57):
There are.

Speaker A (36:57):
And then last but not least, what is your favorite haunted site in Wisconsin?
Do you have a favorite haunted spot?It could be anything.

Speaker B (37:06):
Saint Nasiens.

Speaker A (37:08):
Oh, that's a good one.
Tell my spooky.
Tell my spooky friends about that.

Speaker B (37:13):
So St. Nasians and JFK Prep is in the town of St. Nasians.
And from my understanding, because I did do anepisode on it, he was a priest, pastor,
originally in Germany, got kicked out ofGermany, had his followers come over, and they
found an albino cow, according to the legendthat told them that they had to set up their

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city and their township there.
And they named it St. Nazian's and he startedthe school.
There's, There's.
There's theories about him having prophecies
and that when he died, the whole town shooklike uncontrollably and, like, walls were
shaking.
There was knocking.
There was all this stuff.

(37:58):
And he was like, blessing people on hisdeathbed when he was like.
I don't know if it's lucid or what it was, buthe was like.
Like blessing them and then dismissing them.
And it was.
It's a really, really twisted tale, like, theway it's been told throughout the years.
But they say that the church and the schoolare very, very haunted between, like,

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children, ghosts.
And I know that one of my friends, because
this was, like, the thing in the 90s was to goget a group of friends and run out to Saint
Asians at night and go explore,
right?
And I remember one of.
I never went, because at that time I was like,
now I would probably go.
But then I definitely didn't.
But anyway, I digress.

(38:42):
So he comes back and he's like, you would not
believe what happened.
And I'm like, okay.
He swears when they were downstairs in the
basement, they discovered some pretty creepystuff.
And he was starting to walk down the hall, andhe got this weird smell.
And then, you know, like, when you're in the.
When you watch a movie and someone's walking

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in the hall, and all of a sudden the hallwayelongates.
He swears that the hall was, like, gettinglonger and longer.
Like, he couldn't reach, like, the final backroom that he was looking at to get to.
And I was like, that's really weird.
I'm like, that's really weird.
And I even asked him.
I'm like, were you drunk?
Like, was there anything going on?And he's like, no.

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He's like, I promise you.
Like, not at all.
He's like, I'm not.
No. And then when they went to the church,
the.
I.
My understanding, too, is that the bell hadbeen removed from the tower.
But they swear they could hear it.
And I was like.
And he thinks that he saw something, like somesort of shadow person, like, in.

(39:43):
Like, in and by the rafters in a corner.
And I was like, oh, that's creepy.
I'm like, that's.

Speaker A (39:48):
Yeah. So that is creepy.
That's really creepy.

Speaker B (39:52):
The whole town history on that and how that happened, and then his death and how
it all kind of, like, started to fall apart,but the residual energy was there.
That's really, really, really fascinating tome.

Speaker A (40:04):
Yeah, that's always scary, right?

Speaker B (40:06):
Yeah.

Speaker A (40:08):
Mine is the Summer Wind Mansion up in northern Wisconsin.

Speaker B (40:12):
Summer Wind Mansion, Yeah.

Speaker A (40:14):
That's a great one.
Great story.
Basically, it's on a Indian burial ground.
It's kind of like poltergeist movie.
You move the tombstones, but you kept thebodies in there, you know, kind of thing.
And it's crazy.
A father went insane there.
You know, workers who have tried to restore ithave been, you know, they just leave kind of.

(40:35):
You're talking about originally the storyabout the renovation of that building and
everything.
Whereas why is it taking so long and stuff,you know, what's going on?
Like, workers would see their tools levitateand be like, yeah, I'm out.
Yeah.
God,
I'm not gonna blame them.
Yeah. And it's a great story.
You know, supposedly it burned down amysterious fire.

Speaker B (40:54):
Yeah, that's what I heard too.
And I was like struck by lightning.

Speaker A (40:59):
Yeah. Yeah. So there, there's all this crazy stuff with it and everything like
that.
So, yeah, go check that out.
So what we're gonna talk about today,
and a lot of people forget this star,
Wisconsin is full of paranormal stories thatwill make you freak out.

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And there's creepy,
definitely.
So we're going to talk about cemeteries in
Wisconsin.
And I kind of just started with just the mainones that are pretty haunted and haunted until
this day.
And we're gonna.
We're gonna start with one of my favorites andone of Sar's favorite, the Riverside Cemetery

(41:40):
in Appleton, Wisconsin with Kate Blood.
So what.
What's great about this cemetery and pleasechime in anytime you want,
Saar.
So basically,
Kate Blood is a. And I'm just going to go alittle bit off of this.
I've done an episode on it.
So if you want to listen to the full episode,
you're more than welcome to.

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She's a famous figure in Appleton, Wisconsinlore and known for a tragic real life story as
a beloved daughter of a city founder who diedyoung from consumption or tuberculosis, which
was a big thing,
whose grave at the Riverside cemetery becamethe center of spooky legends about murder,

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witchcraft and blood oozing from hertombstone, often linked to her surname and
family's prominent role in early apples.
So the legend, as it goes is.
And you can.
This tombstone is still there.
Folks, please be respectful.
By the way, if you're going to go and see it,do not do anything to damage it.

(42:46):
You know,
that's not funny.
All right?And I know I have to put that little
disclaimer out there also.
It's a cemetery and you think you can go in
anytime.
That is not true.
Cemeteries are open from dawn until dusk.
And then you got to leave.
I don't want anyone to be arrested.
Have to go to jail over something stupid,
you know, going in there.
But if you get permission, like a lot of my

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paranormal investigators have, if you want todo an investigation, please go to the local
law enforcement, get permission, go in there,have a great time.
She basically was considered to be a witch.
Okay.
And one of the biggest things is why thishappened is convoluted tale, which I won't get

(43:29):
into because we have to get into the othergrave sites.
But again, sorry, if you want to mentionanything, One of the things they have here is
it's a little unusual.
And I love stories like this because there's
blood oozing supposedly during a full moon,Usually during October, around the Halloween
time.
Of course,

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in the fall, like the fall equinox, there'ssupposedly blood will ooze from her tombstone.
And it's really frightening.
People on YouTube have claimed to have
pictures of it and everything.
Believe what you want to believe.
So that's the first one.
And it's haunted.

(44:10):
A lot.
A lot of people see her.
Kate blood, See her apparition.
A lot of see her husband.
There's just a lot of different things goingon in that cemetery.
But the main thing is the cemetery, thetombstone of Kate blood.

Speaker B (44:24):
What's interesting, too, is she's separated from the majority of the cemetery,
like, where she actually rests.
She's actually off on a bluff overlooking the
river.
And she's away from the mass Majority of theentire cemetery, which I always thought was
very interesting.
And in my opinion, I think she's got the best

(44:44):
spot, in my opinion.
Like, when I look at the view, I'm like, yeah,girl, you got yourself hooked up.

Speaker A (44:50):
Yes, yes.

Speaker B (44:51):
But there's a lot of different things I've heard about.
I heard about a phantom dog in that cemetery.
I've heard about other apparitions as well.
So that cemetery, like, I used to live rightby it, so I would walk it, like, all the time.
And I honestly, I miss that cemetery.
That is definitely my favorite cemetery ever.

(45:12):
I love it.

Speaker A (45:13):
Yeah.
Yeah. It's a really cool.
It's a really cool cemetery.
Again, if you're going in there, I would asksomebody where her headstone is, because, like
I said, it's this.
It's far, not far away.
I shouldn't say that.
Right,
right.
What would you say?
It's kind of like, here's the cemetery.

Speaker B (45:31):
And here's the back.
It's really.

Speaker A (45:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And.
And like you mentioned, people do kiss it.
People do worship her still, in a.

Speaker B (45:42):
Sense,
or do it for luck or.
I'M not sure because I never understood the
kissing thing.
I'm like, why would you kiss it?
I'm like,
maybe because she's a wit.
Like the alleged witch theory.
Like, I don't know.

Speaker A (45:56):
Yeah, exactly.
So let's move on to the next one.
It is the Walnut Grove Cemetery, better known
as the.
And I'm really a mushmouth, so I apologize forthis.
Glen Blah Cemetery, and it is regarded by manyas the most haunted cemetery in Wisconsin.
So it's in Glen Blah County.

(46:18):
I don't know.
Well, I'll read more about it and you can look
it up.
The old burial ground rests the top of a hill
at the end of a winding road and is surroundedby trees.
So already right there, you know, it's thiswinding road surrounded by trees.
I'm not saying it's in the middle of nowhere,but you get it, right?
It's kind of when you go there, it has gravesdating back to the mid-1800s.

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Many of them have fallen over and broken.
According to a local legend, a man once triedto commit suicide by hanging himself from a
tree in the cemetery.
As he dropped, however,
the force caused the rope to tear through hisneck and sever his head.
His head.
They say boy rolled down the hill into town.

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So imagine you're taking a walk.
Star.
You just thought about it.
That's a beautiful day.
Yeah. I wonder what that is.

Speaker B (47:06):
A rock.
Gosh. And that's got to be some serious steep
hill with some momentum for that, right?Yeah.

Speaker A (47:13):
I believe this would be in the 1800s, because everything in the.
It was horrible.
Every time I do a story, it's.
It's bad.
So the apparition.
Duh.
This man has been seen wandering among thegravestones after midnight.
I haven't done too much research, but I'm.
I imagine he's headless, looking for his pet.

Speaker B (47:31):
I would wonder that, too.
Or is he kind of like, you know, in Harry
Potter where you have nearly headless neck?Like, is it kind of like.

Speaker A (47:39):
Yeah, yeah.
Where he's like, yeah.
You know, that could be it too.
Also, there's rumors of glowing graves.
A gravestone where shoes appear and vanish,and loud, strange noises have been heard.
I don't understand the shoes, but okay.
Who knows?
Here, visitors often leave offerings of toysand stuffed animals.

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At the grave of Grace dalman, who died fivedays after her birth in 1943.
It may be little Grace who has been seenwatching from beside a large tree,
lost and alone.
Oh, Gracie.
Yeah. So this little baby, I could.

Speaker B (48:21):
To play with her I'd play like hide and seek or something with her.

Speaker A (48:24):
Yeah. So Glen Bella Cemetery, you know, look it up, see where it is, and then
you can go there and hopefully see.
Now what did we talk about earlier?
It is said to have appeared on an episode ofUnsolved Mysteries.
I don't remember this episode.
I'm gonna go back and look it up.

Speaker B (48:42):
Yeah, there's so many episodes.

Speaker A (48:43):
Robert Stack with the fog people.
There's a new one they put out on Netflix,which is fine.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But the Robert Stack one with Robert Stack
narrating aces.
They're somewhere on YouTube.
Most you have to pay for.
But somewhere on YouTube.
Go on YouTube, see if you can find it.
He was awesome.
And actually,
investigators captured real evidence ofparanormal activity.

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So tonight, guess what I'm going to be doing.
I'm going to try to find that episode.
If I have to pay for it.
Oh, well,
right.
I'll pay for it.
Nothing wrong with that.

Speaker B (49:15):
The cemetery, like, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker A (49:18):
Glen Bella Cemetery.
So there you go.
The cemetery hours are strictly enforced, likeI said, guys, due to, unfortunately, vandalism
and rumors of satanic rituals.
It's always satanic ritual.
Yeah, that's not funny, folks.
Again, I hate to be a disclaimer star, but if
you're gonna do something like that, think,

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think.
You know, even if you think you're having funlike we just talked about here, folks, you
know, it follows you.
So anyway, not fair.
From the cemetery.
This is what I love.
This ain't a cemetery, but I had to bring this
up, is the Glenblass School.
It's haunted.
The old Glenblass school was built in 1916 andis said to have been home to unexplained

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phenomenon witnessed by teachers earlier ontoday.
The building is owned by the group Fox ValleyGhost Hunters.
By the way, great group who conduct ghosttours of paranormal investigations of the
ability.
After your tour, you can stop by their storeand you know, hey, what the heck, people?
I'll give them a little plug.
You can pick up a T shirt, tarot card, sage

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and more.
So haunted cemetery, haunted school.
Go check it out.
The group says, who have done the Fox ValleyGhost Hunters.
The group says footsteps have been heardrunning up and down the stairs and through the
halls loud and clear.
Voices have been heard.
Lights turn on and off after having beenturned off.
Pictures repeatedly fall off the walls.

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Objects in the store are moved around
inexplicably, explicitly.
Excuse me.
Shadows.
Figures roam the old classroom.
So, yeah, and you can purchase tickets forthis you just have to go on the website and
check it out.
Anything you want to bring about that.

Speaker B (51:00):
Before I move on? I don't think so, but I definitely want to go
to the get.
Glenn A. Puela.
I think it's Glen.

Speaker A (51:08):
Thank you.

Speaker B (51:09):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker A (51:10):
I'm a mushmouth, so thank you for that.
So Fox Valley, Fox Valley Ghost hunters alsohost paranormal investigations of Sheboygan
County Asylum, which is hella haunted.
And they have a cemetery there, the Spirit
Land Cemetery.
And various writings claim that the quietgraveyard a few miles outside of Plainfield

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got its name.
By the way, who was in Plainfield?
Ed Gein, the Butcher of Plainfield.
So if you're going to Plainfield, go check outwhere Ed Gein's house used to be.
That's hella haunted.
The cemetery there is hella haunted Sheboygan
County Asylum, which Ed Gein, the Butcher ofPlainfield used to be it.
So I don't know, be a little careful.

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Got its name because long ago,
grieving husband who frequents his wife'sgrave where he was able to commune with his
spirit.
But why are the spirits restless in spiritland?
So the name of the cemetery is Spirit LandCemetery.
So this gentleman supposedly was,
you know, used spirituality or whatever youwant to say to conduct with his wife and have

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contact with her.
Some believe also that it's because between
1945 and 1957,
here's our good old Eddie.
This cemetery was one of the three where Ed
Gein would go to dig up freshly buried bodiesof women for his ghoulish hobbies.
Since their graves have been disturbed,

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the dead have been unable to find peace.
So yes, so he would go there in the middle ofthe night.
If you know anything about Ed Gein, I did alittle thing on him.
One of our boy, Wisconsin gets a little badrap.
We've had Jeffrey Dahmer and Ed Gein.

Speaker B (52:54):
Two heavy hitter serial killers and that's.

Speaker A (52:57):
Why they're well known.

Speaker B (52:59):
Do you ever find it interesting because they always say like Ohio is the most
haunted state.
And I'm like, I feel like we could really give
them a run for their money.

Speaker A (53:09):
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
I, I've interviewed people too, from
California and they say their state is.
And I'm like,
I think we better have a face off and see.
Yeah, you know, let's have a battle sometimes.
Actually, that'd be fun.
We should have a, a group thing someday.
Bring people all over the world to see if wecan find out who's the worst.

Speaker B (53:32):
So there's a New reality show right there.

Speaker A (53:35):
Hey, me and Sara got it rocking.
The next one is Hillside Cemetery. 1889 Morris
Pratt Institute was established in Whitewater.
So this is in Whitewater, Wisconsin to study
spiritualism.
This is really interesting too.
Residents called it Spook temple.
Okay. There were spiritualists used seances,
talking boards, planchettes, in other words,Ouija boards and other methods to pierce the

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veil to communicate with the dead.
So it's really interesting.
I interviewed people who do a Whitewater tour
in Whitewater, Wisconsin.
People don't understand Star.
This place was the hub at one time withspiritualism of people trying to commune with
the dead.
And supposedly Whitewaters hella haunted.
Really interesting.

(54:19):
My sister went there for college.
I didn't really think about it at that time.
But I want to go back and check this out
because a lot of people think because they didother spiritualism there are.
Is the town full of restless spirits?People would say there is.

Speaker B (54:33):
So I have heard that as well because like I've heard that it's considered
Second Salem.
Like correct.
And I'm like that would.
And I know they've got the witches tower and
there's like a lot of things going on.
Like I need to take a road trip there.

Speaker A (54:46):
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
So the grave of Morris Pratt himself will befound in Hillside Cemetery.
Legendary.
I didn't even know we had this.
Star legendary ax murder and self professedwitch Mary Worth, whom some believe cursed the
town is also said to reside in a crypt there.
Gotta look her up.
I didn't know she was an ax murderer and awitch.

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That's a weird combination.

Speaker B (55:10):
Hey, it worked out American Horror Story.

Speaker A (55:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Also there.
So that cemetery is hella haunting.
Check that.
There's also a cemetery in Whitewater called
Oak Grove Cemetery.
According to legend, a covenant witches used
to conduct rituals in the Oak Grove cemeteryin the.
This cemetery is now closed to the public.
I don't know why it's closed to the public.

(55:33):
I would have to look at some Google maps andsee what's going on with that.
There must be a reason.
But I don't know.
The coffin of.
The coffin of a baby girl was dug up from one
of these cemeteries and left.
Oh my God, this is terrible.
Left on the steps of a building at the nearbyUW Whitewater campus during the week of
Halloween in 1970.

(55:55):
And that is true folks.
That is not an urban legend.
There is a news report where someone dug up anewly fresh a baby who had died and left it on
the steps.
Of the registration hall at Whitewater.
Yikes.

Speaker B (56:12):
Guaranteed they are haunted and they are paying their karma for life.

Speaker A (56:15):
Yeah, that's.
That's messed up.
That is.

Speaker B (56:17):
That is really messed up.

Speaker A (56:19):
What is wrong with you? Anyway, so in October.
It is now December, but if you want to, inOctober, they have an annual ghost tour in
Whitewater, which.
Which, by the way, I interviewed the
Whitewater people who run it.
They're very, very nice people and they lovetalking about it.
So if you go there, you're gonna have a greattime.
They do the ghost tours.
You go on their website.

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Check it out.
You would have a lot of fun.
So the.
Which takes the participants in many of the
typical closed locations,
such as the witch's Tower, Merry Worth Crypt.
Yes.
Mary Worth, the Axe Murderer Witch had a. As acrit.
Okay.
And Oak Grove Cemetery.
So it's a really cool thing.
Go check it out.
Support local people.

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I'm always big on that.
Anyway,
so this one is not a cemetery per se, but ithas to do with the cemeteries,
like Star said. The Witch's Triangle.
Whitewater.
There are many legends of witchcraft inWhitewater.
Has been known as second Salem.
An old stone water tower, by the way.

(57:22):
Go look at it.
It's creepy as hell.
In Theron park at the center of many of theselegends, where some believe witches were
buried and rituals are still carried out tothis day.
Really quick story about that.
One of the people who do the tour, he's been
living in Whitewater most of his life, went tocollege there.

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There's a barbed wire fence around the tower.
So, you know, and there's security now.
But before there was just a barbed wire fence.
Being a stupid kid, he said in his 20s, theyjumped the fence and we're going to have a
Ouija board session at the tower.
Mistake number one,
right?Anyway, when they started the Ouija board
session, things started to go south in ahurry.

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The planchette moved by itself.
They saw shadow figures.
So people with them who are in their 20s, menand women, decided they gotta leave.
However, when they were leaving, the guy saidwhen he was walking, something grabbed the
back of his hoodie.
So you're wearing a hoodie right now.
And pulled him back, pulled him back.
And he looked to see it was one of his friendsmessing with him.

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There was nobody there.
When he tried to jump the fence, someone
pulled at his leg and he almost landed on thebarbed wire.
And he would have been caught in that barbedwire, and, you know, he wouldn't have probably
died, but he would have been Severely injured.
He got out of there and stuff.
When he got out of there in the morning, he
had bruises on his back.
He had like.
Like.
Like somebody who had really pressed down on

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his shoulder, like, bruises.
And he said, I never go.
I would never go back there again.
You said there's something going on.

Speaker B (58:55):
Yep.

Speaker A (58:56):
And according to.
Yes, Witches who live in the area, they're
kind of like,
yeah, there are ceremonies we do there.
But it's not like what you're saying.
Who knows?

Speaker B (59:07):
Right, Right.

Speaker A (59:08):
So anyway, all these land and buildings within the Triangle are believed to
be haunted in Whitewater.
And this is where the area's disturbing
historical legends reside.
So again, check out.
Go check it out.
It's really funny that we have witches in
Wisconsin.
I don't think it's funny, but it's
interesting.
We don't think about that.
You think Salem,

(59:28):
East Coast,
New Orleans, you don't think about that.
Right.
You don't think about that at all.
So that is some of the.
The cemeteries and stuff like that.
Except one of the things what I thought was
really interesting, too is, you know, again,you could go there in Halloween.
Those are the best tours and everything, likeI said.
Which I thought would be really fun.

(59:49):
Right, Sar?

Speaker B (59:51):
Absolutely.
I would so be into that.

Speaker A (59:53):
Yeah. So the last one is the Resignee Cemetery.
Again, I'm mushed, Mouth.
I'm sorry.

Speaker B (01:00:01):
That's okay.

Speaker A (01:00:01):
Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.
William to Madge, the son of WisconsinTerritory Governor Nathaniel Potter Tomage was
just 19 years old when he died on June 12,1845.
He was buried in a spot he had picked only twoweeks earlier.
Okay.
Yeah. Upon top of a hill on his family landswhich they called Resigni Resini Hill,

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Nathaniel found solace in his beliefs andpractice of spiritualism when the movement
began not long after.
Many of Nathaniel's experiences communicatingwith the dead through various mediums were
recorded.
In 1853.
Book Spiritualism,
Volume 1, he wrote that his youngest daughterand 13 plays the piano on the instruction of

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the spirit.
She had never played piano before in her life.
And no understanding of notes, he claimed,until one day she sat down on the keys and
played Beethoven's Grand Waltz.
Okay,
that's interesting.

Speaker B (01:01:03):
All right.

Speaker A (01:01:04):
The same year Spiritualism was published, Tallmadge donated the hill in the
surrounding eight and a half acres of his farmfor use as a public cemetery.
Okay.
Since then, Rezani has become a final resting
place of Civil War generals, senators,congressmen, athletes, musicians, and
depending on who you ask, witches.
So, again,

(01:01:25):
really, really interesting.
I think one of the Things, too.
Just really quickly is some of the things inhere too claim they have a witch's circle at
the back of the cemetery, and the plot ismarked by four small cornerstones.
And like I said, this is called the witchescircle, and there's also witches circle in

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Whitewater.
So, interesting.
As the story goes, this is.
I've never heard this one.
Nuns from a religious center nearby known as a
Sisterhood of Nativity were getting pregnantand performing witchcraft.

Speaker B (01:01:58):
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker A (01:02:00):
So these nuns were getting pregnant, having sex, and performing
witchcraft.
Anyway, the women were excommunicated from the
church and upon their deaths, buried inunconsecrated ground at the back of the
cemetery.
Some claim to have found a witch's housesomewhere in the woods behind the circle.

Speaker B (01:02:21):
Well, now I want to go look for the house.

Speaker A (01:02:23):
The old stone receiving vault is said to contain a glowing portal that opens at
night.
And the.
The Ryzani cemeteries just down the road fromone of the most haunted places in Fond du Lac,
the notorious Witherel House, which I'm notfamiliar with that, but that's what I have to

(01:02:44):
have to do.
Kind of look at that with Row with UrellHouse.
I've never heard of that house.

Speaker B (01:02:50):
The only one that I know of is the Octagon house in Fond du Lac.

Speaker A (01:02:53):
Yeah, so I know the Octagon House, so maybe it's the same thing.
And they didn't call it.
But anyway, that's just a small sampling size
of some of the cemeteries that are haunted inWisconsin.
So,
Star,
what do you think?You think these are all haunted or you think
it's people's imagination?

Speaker B (01:03:09):
Oh, no, I'm a believer, especially when it comes to a cemetery.
Like.
Nope, I believe you.
A cemetery, I think is.
Is definitely just grounds for activity.
It absolutely is.

Speaker A (01:03:20):
Absolutely. Yeah, I love that.
So before we wrap up for tonight,
why don't you tell my spooky friends what yougot coming up where they can find you and
check out your podcast.

Speaker B (01:03:32):
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, since it, you know, right now we're kindof in the holiday season, I've got some really
fun holiday episodes coming up that are superspooky and creepy.
So that'll be happening.
And if you want to hang out with me, you can
pretty much find me anywhere on any podcastplatform for creepy **** podcast.
You can also go to Instagram at creepypodcast.

(01:03:55):
And I'm also on the Tiktoks now, which, like,that's kind of.
That's kind of like a new territory.
So. Creepy Host, Star, for that.
But that is how I am.

Speaker A (01:04:04):
I love it.
Stars, thank you for going a little overtime
with me.
This was amazing.
I could talk to you for hours.
I love my Wisconsin people.
And again,
people,
you know,
Wisconsin's really haunted.
We just carry a fraction of what it.
What is haunted in Wisconsin.
So go check out starcreepy **** podcast also

(01:04:25):
everywhere she is on social media,
Please check her out, give her some love, and,you know, become a spooky friend with her.
Because, again,
I love it because there's not enoughspookiness and fun things, especially with
history of Wisconsin and other areas to talkabout to kind of get you in the mood.
Even though it's holiday season, we're stilldoing some holiday episodes.

(01:04:47):
It never goes away.
Right?

Speaker B (01:04:48):
Right. Exactly right.
It never does.

Speaker A (01:04:51):
Love you.
So love you, star.
Love to have you again on sometime.
Or if you want me on your podcast,
I love being a guest to tell all my podcast.
Tell us if you.
If you'd like to do that 100%.

Speaker B (01:05:02):
That's a yes.
That's a definitive yes.

Speaker A (01:05:04):
Yes. So reach out to me.
And again, thank you so much.
This was so much fun.
And remember, stay spooky.

Speaker B (01:05:12):
Thank you.