All Episodes

July 2, 2025 57 mins

Buy the Book! https://hatandbeard.com/products/american-sugargristle-by-toby-huss

What if the secret to understanding America was hidden in gas station graffiti? Why does actor Toby Huss photograph truck stops instead of sunsets? And how did abstract painting help him process MDMA therapy sessions?

In this mind-expanding episode, beloved character actor Toby Huss (John Bosworth in "Halt and Catch Fire," Cotton Hill/Kahn in "King of the Hill") takes us on a journey through his photography book "American Sugargristle" and reveals how finding beauty in overlooked places can transform both art and consciousness.

You'll discover: ✓ The "connective tissue" that unites America beyond political divisions (hint: it's in plain sight) ✓ Why cynicism is the enemy of authentic art (and how to avoid it) ✓ The surprising connection between his abstract paintings and trauma processing ✓ How playing salesmen taught him that performance can be authentic ✓ Why he insisted on specific cowboy boots for Bosworth (and what that teaches about intuition) ✓ The profound humanity in truck stop graffiti and strip mall aesthetics ✓ His approach to voicing Dale Gribble after Johnny Hardwick's passing ✓ Why technical photography skills mean nothing without story ✓ How to train your eye to find beauty anywhere (even Palmdale) ✓ The unexpected spiritual dimensions of documenting mundane America

Toby drops wisdom bombs about:

Why every actor needs to trust their character intuition over directors The danger of the "safari mentality" when photographing America How different creative mediums access different truths Why he photographs the "impression" places leave, not just the places The democracy of anonymous expression (yes, including dick graffiti)

Plus: Learn about his upcoming films "Americana" and "Weapons," and why a Native American ghost shirt might be the perfect metaphor for his artistic vision.

Perfect for: Artists seeking authentic vision, photographers tired of Instagram aesthetics, actors wanting to deepen their craft, anyone processing trauma through creativity, fans of Halt and Catch Fire, King of the Hill enthusiasts, and people curious about the real America beyond media narratives.

⚠️ Content note: Frank discussion of trauma, therapeutic psychedelics, and the artistic process.

TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] Cold open - Testing audio with an actor who records everything [03:52] "American Sugargristle" - What the hell does that mean? [06:22] Visual DNA: Decoding America's aesthetic language [07:32] Lyn Shelton memories and creative cross-pollination [10:00] When your writing sounds like a fever dream (compliment) [11:39] The universal language of dick graffiti (seriously) [14:10] "Are you a pervert?" - Getting detained for photography [17:31] Photographing ghosts: Capturing a place's impression [18:19] "Where They Grow Headstones" - Perfect titles take time [20:09] Why cynicism kills art (and wonder) [22:32] Finding humanity across the political divide [24:03] Truck stops as temples: Spirituality in mundane places [27:37] From disgust to beauty: The Palmdale transformation [28:33] F*ck your expensive camera (story matters more) [29:19] That time he roasted sunset photography [31:46] Iowa barns and the death of cliché [33:29] Your book feels like a Wim Wenders film [35:02] The performative truth of John Bosworth [36:34] When the salesman mask IS the real face [40:19] Becoming Dale Gribble (with respect to Johnny) [45:37] Stage vs. film

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.