Pre-Campaign 2 Interview: ManWithGlass

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Here we go, Winnie. I am on a podcast and it's D and
D4-O. Four.
OK, So what it is, it's Dungeonsand Dragons.
Yep. Yep.
I feel the same way. Yep, Yep.
Yep, and that's a great time to start because joined with me are
the other two Halloween costumesat my Halloween parties,

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starting with the spooky Dookie Man with Glass.
Man, I so a little bit of Mariglass lore.
I was always afraid of Halloweengrowing up so I would I would
like skip school on Halloween because I didn't want to see the
scary costumes kind of deal. Wow damn, bringing up trauma.

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Wow, how dare you? How dare you?
Sorry, I didn't know. Man, I very boring.
I was like a firefighter for like 4 years in a row.
There you go. I was like, I guess so, yeah.
Man with hose watering down those fires.

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How about you, Jared? I'm Jared and I play Mylan
Vaxson in the new campaign 2 of DND four O 4 and my costume of
choice. Anything.
Pop culture references are always just really funny.

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Like I saw a bunch. Of pop culture reference.
This year it was the French thieves.
That's a good one. No, I saw a lot of the couple
that got spotted at the Coldplayconcert.
Oh yeah. And that was really that one
made me laugh a lot. So I like any kind of pop
culture ones that I'm like, I see what you did there.

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Anything that's super niche and I get it.
I'm like, you know what world's world's smaller than you think
it is. But what about you, Dan?
Hello everybody. I'm Dan.
I used to play Menace, Pebble Walker.
Now I play Beau Ram Dumare in campaign 2.
And we're joined with the editorby the way of campaign two Man
with Glass. We we finally have enough to

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balloons to pay someone to edit our podcast.
So we aren't tearing our hair out every week.
But I and the I don't want to say pun, but like the mixed joke
costume. Like for example, for Halloween,
I was a blind ref. So I was a an NFL referee with

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the stripes and the flags and everything, but I also had blind
glasses and a cane, you know, Sosome, some sort of joke kind of
costume is usually the way I go.I like it.
Oh, actually my best costume I went on.
I went to a party with my my cousin and his girlfriend and I

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strapped a bicycle tire wheel wheel to my back and I was a
third wheel. Nice.
And I feel like that might have I made AI might have peeked
there, I don't know. I don't know if I could top that
but. Yeah, self referential, very,
yeah. Exactly.
Exactly. When when you tell people,
they're like, oh, you know. Yeah, honestly, that feeling is

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just like, oh, you for it, Nirvana.
So what we're doing today is we're going to be talking about
how the podcast works, how it functions, all the pieces that
make up the pie. That is what we're doing today.
And a bunch of you have given usquestions for Glass.

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This is going to be a mixed bag of questions.
So some Jared might answer, someI might answer, some Glass might
answer, and we'll be pulling a ton of questions from chat,
obviously. Hello, Chad.
Hello, Lichlord 2343 low type port 816 and Stifenheimer and
Yulinog and Patrick NA and Goochmaster, Baxter, Tom Face,

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Cinder, Slime and Leilani. Oh, he made it into the podcast.
Hello everybody, and thank you for joining us, Jared.
I actually hit glass with the first question.
Where you at? Were you a Patreon supporter
when the 1st or an editor first?I was.

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I was a friend first. OK guys, I was a friend.
You know what? He was a subscriber first.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I I met Jared through his Twitch stream.
And then as the years went on, he ended up telling me, oh, I

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got this podcast I'm doing with my buddies.
D and DI got into it, I got intoD&D through it, and then here I
am editing for it now. That was from Astro Ooze 04.
Is that how I? Think that is.

(05:13):
Yeah, sorry, I forgot to mentionthat that was from the Discord.
But yes, just like everyone elsein this in this podcast, I
brought them together, No. It's a it's a big mix of how we
all got together, which is kind of fun because Jared kind of got
us all together as friends and then me and Tony got us all

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together for D&D. And then.
So, I mean, we could go on forever about that kind of
stuff, but yeah, yeah, it was definitely a friend first.
Yes, for sure. For Patreon, I saw that that
was. Did we say who that was?
That was Astro Oz. Yeah, this was it.
Yep. When I read that, I was like, I

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thought the exact same thing. I was like, glass is gonna be
like I was. Hey, I was a friend.
First, how dare you don't? Call me an Adrian supporter.
But I, I think how long have we known each other?
It's been like it's. Quite a few years, been a
minute. So I want to say I think I
started watching your streams first year of college and that

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would have been like just comingup on like a decade ago.
Yeah, I was going to say yeah, we've been playing games ever
since. Uh huh.
Oh. Yeah, it's wonderful, but.
All right. Let's say with the next
question, and this is from one of our own, Vivian Shermont,
Kylie asks, how long have you been working with the Boyos for

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kind of answer this a little bit.
Yeah, not too long. So my kind of trial time was
with the Hobeck Humanitarians starting from episode 2.

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I, I edited all the dialogue forthose episodes.
So yeah, I don't know how long that would have been up to this
point, but since then. Maybe maybe give him some
background on maybe how we came to that that point or is maybe
is there a question later, Dan, that you know, I.

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Don't think so. Yeah, we can go to that I.
Don't know if you have any like like a background like how we
were like oh you would be maybe perfect for something like this.
Oh yeah, I mean, I, I'd been working in film and television
as like a on set audio specialist guy.
If you were to like, ever see like a picture or tableau of

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like people on set, I was a guy holding the microphone on a pole
in the background, making sure all the audio is being recorded.
So yeah, I just had a pretty good background in audio,
whether that be editing or recording.

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And yeah, I told, I told the boys, I said, yo, if you need
help, let me know. And here we are.
Yeah. Yeah, and here we are.
Here we are great, Anna Meister said.
Any master sorry when you when you get to play glass, do you

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prefer ranged or melee combat? I know not editing related but I
just want to make sure I ask everyone.
Range I I love the spellslinger because like, I could shoot a
bow and arrow in real life, you know what I mean?

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But I can't like, throw a fireball at somebody's face.
Sure. I mean like whenever I do play,
DNDI usually like to play like autility type of character.
In my main campaign I play a character called the sad Clown

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and he's just all about illusions.
And like I discovered that. I don't know if you guys have
ever used in the podcast, but there's a spell called
illusionary terrain, which just like you just change the terrain
that you're in, which is so muchfun, especially with my DM who

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allows me to like flavor it a little bit of being like, oh,
I'm this, this jail cell is now a House of mirrors and now
everybody's fucked. What was it called?
Illusionary. What was it?
Illusory terrain I think. I'm going to look it up.

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I might put that one in my back pocket for a rainy day, you know
what I'm saying? Hallucinatory terrain.
There we go. That's that's the name.
Got it. And hopefully that also answers
Stifenheimer's question. Do you play D&D?
So yes, he does, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I was in twitch shed I saw St. double DS who asked would you

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still love me if I was a worm? A question.
A hard hitting questions no nextquestion sure I put you in a
little terrarium and like water you or whatever you need to do
for. Whatever you need for work.

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Whatever worms need put you in dirt.
Whatever you want, sure. We got another question from
Annie. Do you have to upload each
episode to every stream platformlike Spotify, iHeartRadio,
Pandora, Apple, etcetera individually?

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It's a Jared question, I think. Oh, great, awesome.
So RSS feeds work, really fun. So that's what the backbone of
podcast is run off of. So basically there's one feed
that trickles down to everywhere, everywhere else.
So what you do is you put it up onto this RSS feed and you have
to pay a monthly subscription usually for something like that.

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And then once you put it in thata feed, it then trickles down to
all the places. So Apple, Spotify, everything's
reading this one URL and it's just, they're stealing the
content from the from the URL basically with our permission.
So, but we did have to set up somany different ones.

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So like there's certain ones that we had to go manually set
up to do it. So Apple, specifically Spotify,
iHeartRadio there's why am I blanking it?
D&D or no? What is it?
Good pods, Like all these websites we had to do manually

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once and then it will like do itall.
So yes, we did have to do it once, but no, most of them just
do it automatically, which is cool, Yeah.
There you go. Pretty well said.
I think it's like like having your water tower, you know, you,
you put it in the one location, then it goes everybody else in

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town. So we just send our feed to
everybody else and it's it's been working pretty well.
You know, it's not something I thought we'd get into podcast,
but it's been a fun journey. The amount of little technical
things that you can do is staggering when you start like
lining them all up, you know, one after another.

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It's compounded over 4 years. Yep, pretty great.
All right, the next one. So John, John the Don.
And this was also asked from Trevor on Instagram.
So John, John said who or asked who chooses the music that plays
for the campaign? Trevor asked the same thing,

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kind of. They said, I was wondering where
do you get your music from? I love it.
And I added that because I love you for saying that because I do
the music and we use a mix of audio samples.

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So we use a program called Splice.
And Splice has a lot of music samples that you can pick from.
You can change the BPM, the instruments, all that kind of
stuff and look up samples that match the tone or the genre that
you're looking for and clump those all together.
And it's a mix of that. And sometimes I'll put in my own

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musical sounds and tidbits as well as effects from the
programs that we use. So.
What This is why we we were getting towards the end of
campaign, campaign one that we were like, we have to figure
something out because Dan was doing all the music and Tony and

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Dan were doing the first cut. The assembly cut is I think.
Is that what you? Yeah.
And then so basically that's making sure we take out all the
Umm's and Ah's and make sure that there's like really good
flowing conversations and make sure everything works right.
It's a, we take like a, they take like a three hour edit and
you know, take it down to whatever it might be like an

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hour and a half to two hours or maybe a little bit more.
And then Dan would go in there and do the music and then Tony
would go in and do sound effects.
So we're just like, OK, what's the word?
What's the pain point? Because like, you know, if
Tony's out for a week, then all of a sudden Dan's now having to
do it or, you know, type of situation.

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So we were like, we have to do something in order to do this.
So that's where Glass came in and we're like, this is
wonderful. So we appreciate him so much.
Oh yeah. So it's all, it's all custom.
It's all customized. So once in a while I'll find a
sample pack that all the sampleswork well together and I just

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use that. But typically I'm mixing
together a bunch of different packs and instruments and stuff
to make a unique track, you know?
So yeah, that's how we do that. What's the next question we got?
We have another one from the Discord.
Let's see here. It's from, Shirley Said.

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How long does it take to edit anepisode?
Me and Glass can answer this. Glass, take it away.
How? How long do you think it's taken
you so far? I mean it purely depends on how
long they edited and how many flub takes.

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They have. Yeah, probably like 4 to if
we're pushing it like 6 hours just to do the assembly.
For pushing it, if we're pushingit, yeah, I was going to say
like, so for my history editing the podcast from ARC from season

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1, it would usually take around 3 to 4 hours to edit the
assembly. Then it would take around 2 to 3
hours to edit the music and probably 2 to 3 hours for Tony
to do sound effects. So all together, sometimes it
would be a total of like 9 to 12hours editing just one episode
across people and what we were doing.

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And sometimes you'd have to add extra flourish to it, depending
on maybe it was the finale of the Ark, right?
Or it was just, it happened to be really hard at it because we
had to go longer one day and there was a lot of mistakes and
like the flubs that you mentioned.
So cutting out just that one chunk of like 4 hours of editing

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the assembly cut, which is the tone and the pace in the story,
right? And the voices that that's going
to hopefully give me and Tony a lot more room to grow the
podcast and other ways from which we'll probably, I think I
saw a question that might alludeto that as well.
But that gives us a lot more time.

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And that's, that's kind of the average, I would say about let's
say 10 hours a week to edit one episode.
And that kind of when we first started this whole podcast, that
was like, I mean, kind of this is kind of pulling back the
curtain quite a bit. And I know we don't normally try

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to like hide much or anything like that, but the main thing
that we we prize ourself on is making sure that we give like
the best listening experience. I know in other podcasts, and
I'm not downplaying how much like they do, you know, probably
like production and things like that.
But the problem that I have whenI listen to those is that, you

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know, sound effects aren't thereor it's one Part 1 microphone
and a bunch of people talking over each other.
We try to make sure that there'snone of that and that it's just
the best the listening experience possible because
we're just trying to tell stories.
So the work that it takes to do that is, you know, just like Dan

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said, it's like, you know, couldbe 10 hour a week gig just to
make sure that we give the best thing that we can.
So yeah. So yeah, we try to put a lot of
effort into each one. We sure do.
All right, we're going to be getting to stream questions in a

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moment here, but the for now, the next question comes from
Anthony Pisa on Instagram. What program do you use to edit?
Pro Tools? Yep.
There it is. Yeah.

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So oh that's interesting cuz Danyou use.
So me and Tony use Adobe Audition.
Yeah I wish. I wish I could say Pro Tools,
but for now audition and maybe I'll get into Pro Tools in a
year or so when I get more advanced at the editing.
That's a good time composing. Yeah, that's supposed to be so

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good. That's interesting.
Have you ever used Adobe Editionglass?
No, it's very, yeah, niche. It's not like one of those ones
you stumble upon like Photoshop or Premiere or something, but.
Yeah, I mean, like in college when I when I took my filmmaking

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program, it was all like very, we only use like industry
standard programs and like equipment.
So we were also using like Avid for treading Pro Tools for all
that. We were using Davinci Resolve,
which is a free program every once in a while specifically for

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color grading. Yep, yeah.
If anybody wants to get into color grading.
It's so good for color, it really is.
But yeah, only the best. For only the best.
For Yeah, all right. We're actually gonna force Glass
to do hour long music. 4. 6 And it's all gonna be custom and no

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samples all. He does the instruments, he
records it, he edits it. We're starting from scratch
every episode now, okay? Okay, okay, I'll figure it out.
That's great. Next questions from the Discord.
No one here is the name. How hard is it to edit the April

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Fools episode solely song? Yeah, I can talk about that.
It would have been easy. It should have been easy.
I heard about this, Tony. I heard about this.
Tony, I was like, all right, Tony, obviously we need.
So for those of you that don't know what the April Fool's

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episode was, I don't know if it even exists on our podcast
stream anymore. I think it's only on YouTube.
We did an April Fool's episode that was post it as the finale,
the Indy 4/4, the finale. But when everybody clicked on
it, it was just an hour of Sullygoing Doo boop, boop, boop, boop

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boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. So it's that, right?
And Tony and I thought would be a fun idea to Add all the other
characters. So we'd add some SIDS, we'd add
Menace, you know, we'd add Birthy and have them come in and
out just so it's not Sully the whole time.

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And then we had Jared scream at us and tell us to shut up.
So there would be silence for like a minute and then we'd
start back up and that would repeat and repeat and repeat.
And it came out really well. I'm happy with it.
It was funny, but what Tony did when he recorded all the samples
for Earthy and the SIDS and Reginald is he didn't listen to

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the first track he made of Sully's.
So when I lined them all up, none of them lined up because.
He was just. Guessing the the cadence and the
rhythm every single time he recorded a new track.
Oh wow. And he sent this to me and then
was Mia for and we did this likethe day before and he was Mia

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the day before. So it wasn't able to like, re
record anything. So I had to just manually cut
apart and change the rhythm of every single character so they
all matched so that it was very hard.
It shouldn't have been, but it was very, very hard.
And I'll never forgive Tony for it.
So no, it was funny. But now Tony knows that he needs

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to record his first track and then listen to that one as he
records. So there's my spiel.
Yeah, it's good. Yeah.
It was like one of those things that we had this like funny idea
and we just kind of ran with it.So.
And then I remember being very adamant being like, we can't
leave it up. Like it's 11 week, that's all

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you get. That's all you get.
I was like no more. Oh, we got some.
We got some. Most, most people were kind of
funny, but there were like like 3 or maybe 5 people that came
online and were like, I'm never listening to your podcast.

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Fuck. God, no way.
No way. So mad.
How dare you? I was like, guys, we need to
have an emergency meeting. We messed up.
Most people thought it was funnythough, and the mass majority of
people thought it was funny. Yeah, they did.

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It was good. Oh, goodness.
All right. Next one is also Annie Master.
I think we've had three from Annie Master today.
Have you guys ever considered corporate sponsors?
Yes, yeah. OK.
So we're kind of mixed on the topic.
So like we're at this cut, so full transparency, you know

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what, I'll take the, you know, Ilike being, you know, as
transparent as possible. We are just under being able to
start advertising or I'm sorry, getting sponsors from Spotify.
So what that means is that we are our listen time is through
the roof, but the amount of people who listen isn't as much

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as Spotify wants. So if we hit that in this
campaign, Oh man, like that's going to be able to hopefully
once we see how much funding it is like you always hear about
funding and I, I expected it notto be that much.
Once I once we hit that number, then that's going to help us
really see a path. And then the path is either

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going to be like, oh, you know, just doing what we're doing is
going to be fine, you know, typeof situation, or the we may need
to start reaching out and doing,you know, brand deals and things
like that. So the problem is, is that
there's so many brands out therethat want to do deals, but none
of them makes sense. And I think that's our hardest

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part. So like, like AVPN company
reached out to us recently and was like, hey, you know,
advertise, we'll give you X amount of dollars and we'll, you
know, whoever signs up, we'll give you a portion of that.
And it's like, OK, that's cool. But like, I've never heard of
this VPN company before. So now it's like, OK, now I have
to research that company and then I'm like, I don't feel

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right doing AVPN company if I don't even use the product.
So then it's like, OK, well, we have to use a product.
So then we reached out to like these products that we do use,
but they're large companies and they're just like, they don't
care. So we have to find some balance.
So hopefully this year when we go to conferences is going to be

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our big goal that we meet some of these companies, get to know
them and fit in. We both fit in each other's
spaces and we may do some kind of deals like that.
So it's, it's hard because we don't want to be, we don't want
to do it wrong. That's that's my biggest fear is

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we don't want to like do the wrong thing.
So it's just making sure everything's right because we
could have already, you know, you know, sold out quote, UN
quote, whatever you want to callit to to brands and made been
much easier off and things like that.
But it's just we want to make sure we do things right and not
promote things that shouldn't bepromoted so.

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Yeah, we got we got to be sponsored by people that we
trust and we would use ourselvesand you know, the kind of do
talk about the time aspect as well, you know, and now that
Glass is going to be editing a lot and, you know, taking time
off of my my plate and Tony's plate, that gives me time to

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make content again because we all work full time, you know, so
we're all working full time. We can't just drop work to just
edit the podcast, you know, So now that I'll have extra time, I
want to get back to making content again.
And as as great as our podcast is, sponsors are much more

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likely to come through on platforms like Instagram and
TikTok and YouTube, you know, sothat is going to be a push for
us as well because we are, we are a, we are very strange in
the podcast world, especially the D&D world, because most D&D
people started doing content creation and then went into

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podcasting. We just went full force into
podcasting, made something amazing and we are one of the
better podcasts, but we are justnot very online as far as the
content is concerned. Wait, so now?
When content takes 10 hours to make in a week, you don't have
time to make a silly YouTube or TikTok video.

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Well all the TikTok videos I made that went viral always took
me like 5 hours to make and. The ones that the ones that did
so well are just like, they're great.
Yeah, go go click on our TikTok and click on the popular drop
down and just see our our most viral ones because we got some
funny ones. I'll tell you if if we can get

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Dan to to just make Tik Toks, he's going to be killing it.
What we need. Yep.
For sure. Yeah.
So that is, that's definitely going to be a push moving
forwards and Glass is helpful with that.
Thank you, Glass. Yeah, for sure.
I want to take a question from TikTok or I'm not TikTok, I'm

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sorry, Twitch. Is that cool or is it going to
throw everything? Of course, Yeah, now, now is the
time. Now we're moving on to Twitch
questions. I didn't want to address this
because it was kind of directed at what we were just talking
about. It's like you guys have to make
money and to keep things going. So we get it.
It's not like you're selling out.
It's true. It's just we're not luckily we

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have the Patreon. The Patreon is everything that
we need currently. Like it's keeping us exactly
where we need to like the thingsthat we do need to like keep
everything. The the, you know, the quote UN
quote, the lights on is that fulfills it, which is awesome.
If we didn't have that, Oh yeah,we would have to be doing some

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like serious stuff. So that is our like lifeline,
which is great. So, so we're not, I don't want
to say that we're hurting, but we could definitely be doing
well off if we did something like that, which we don't want
to. So until we have to make that
jump, we're not going to, is theidea.
High Port Said you need to get afull time animator to turn

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access. Into a show rather.
I, Oh my gosh, I want to so bad.There's so many episodes that me
and Dan have talked about over and over that it's like, what
would be the best thing? And when we went to the last
animator, I know his style and his style's funny.
So I was like, OK, having an epic fight scene just doesn't

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fit his style. Giving him something funny that
he can like play with and just go to town with cinema perfect.
We found the perfect person for the with the perfect content.
What I want to do is take those fight scenes like say, what is
it episode 50 to 60 in that areawhere we're in the shadow fell
the barracks. Yep, we know the 1 and I want to

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take that whole scene because I think that's like when we all
hit our peak like not our peak, but like we all just came
together. We were like the Power Rangers,
which was pretty great. So something like that would be
awesome. So.
I finally, yeah blast you got tolearn animation as well.

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I I. Oh man.
The craziest part about you saying that is the last time I
brought up the fact that I downloaded Blender.
You're like, oh great, so you'regoing to be our animator now
I'm. Like.
OK, let's. Wait a second, I have no idea
what I'm doing right? And it has to be cel shaded
anime style. Cel shaded anime style.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Find a way to mix those two.

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Exactly. There was another question that
actually Speaking of art that was earlier and it had to deal
with AI art and. Add it high.
Oh yeah, I think, Steifenheimer said.
What's your opinions on AI generated content?
We've got a lot of mixed opinions because I use them to
create maps and I just don't have the money to Commission for

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it. Yeah, I think if you're using it
to show your representation to an individual, I don't see it as
a problem. If you're using it to sell,
that's where it's kind of a problem.
Yeah, yeah. My kind of a problem is kind of
a big problem. I do there, there are some.
It's it's difficult because it'ssuch a new landscape and we

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don't have all the answers yet. I try and limit my AI use as
much as possible, but there is amisconception that all AI is
wasted energy and and it's bad for the environment.
That's not true. There's a lot of AI operations
that are technically more efficient and use less energy

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than a bunch of designers might do a map or something, you know,
It depends on how many computersyou had running, you know, and
how many people were working on that project.
It's a case by case basis. What is more efficient?
The problem is we don't, we haven't collected enough data to
know what the efficient practices are.
So I just try and limit it. And if you're making maps and

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characters, just be cognizant ofthat and try not to use it so
much because that's when all of our bills go up across the board
because we're we're struggling abit with all these big
warehouses just shoveling out CPUs and taking up all the
electricity in the cities, you know?
Yeah, it's kind of it's it's a weird time with AIR.

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It's only going to get better, which is kind of scary in some
cases. But I think the hardest thing
that it has that it doesn't do well is being creative.
So you can tell it to do all these things and it will take
things from other people that are creative and try to make
something. But if it's what you're
visioning, it's not going to do do it that well.

(34:55):
It may give you something. OK, but it.
Yeah, it's, it's tough, but yeah, I don't know.
As long as you're using it to just showcase to your friends I
I don't have any problem with it.
Yeah. Yeah, just don't don't be trying
to sell AI art as your your own creation.
Yeah, we so fiber is we use thata lot.

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And unfortunately when we reach out to people, they'll say, Oh
yeah, I can create all that. And we've gotten unfortunately
burnt a few times because the person says that they're a
digital artist or has had, you know, experience in that field

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for X amount of years and you think it's great.
And then by the time you get thepicture back, it's not that,
unfortunately. So it's definitely AIR.
So they're like, OK, thanks. No, we're, we're good.
So we don't like give them bad reviews or anything.
We just cut ties and just leave it as leave it as I.
Do I blast them on TikTok and I make videos about it?

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No. But what's some other questions?
We got glass, you got one. I got a question for Glass.
Oh, listen, OK. Everybody in the in Twitch, if
you have any questions for Glassabout editing and stuff like
that, obviously post them now orforever hold your peace.
But my question for Glass is, now that you've edited a few

(36:30):
episodes of the podcast from theHellbeck humanitarians to these
main campaign episodes that are coming out soon, what are some
of your biggest pet peeves when you're editing that we do.
Pet peeves. Oh yeah.
Cuz I got answers for this. Is it every time Tony uses a New
York accent? Oh, pet peeves.

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I don't peeves. I don't think anything crazy.
I feel like all all of you guys,funny enough, all you guys
except Kaylee are guilty of justlike getting so excited in
character. Oh yeah, and just like stumbling

(37:16):
over your words and then you just like, have a incoherent
sentence at the end of it. Oh yeah, that is big time.
I I think we all do certain things better.
Like Jared is really good at having the same cadence
throughout his speech patterns, even though he separates himself

(37:37):
a lot when he talks. I can I separate myself a lot
when I talk, but my speech pattern fluctuates as I do that.
So sometimes when you cut me together, it doesn't sound as
natural as Jared's would. My biggest pet peeve, and this
is a pretty big pet peeve onlinereally, but the like lip

(37:59):
smacking or like. Tongue smacking.
Specifically like when you hear that?
Yeah. Like I hate it and.
That happens when you first start talking in a lot of the
times when you're doing so I've done audio editing at, you know,
at work and things like that. And when people start talking
and it makes those noises and you're like cutting those out

(38:22):
and get that out of here. Like the first like millisecond
of someone or the breathe in before someone talks, it picks
up on the mic. I'm like, no, got to get that
out of there. Yeah, and, and I think, I think
my biggest lesson trying to think of what like my biggest

(38:42):
lesson was when I was editing aswell, 'cause I, I picked up a
ton of tricks as we've gone. I'm trying to think for like
anybody that's editing a podcast, this is more of a broad
one than like a mechanical editing technique.
But don't, don't fall in love with your own dialogue.

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I think too many people fall in love with their own voice or
making sure every aspect of the podcast makes it cut.
Cut in what only is necessary oris highly entertaining.
Everything else should be straight out the door.

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Like we don't need to know. We don't need to like laugh at
me and Tony laughing about some inside joke that we have.
Nobody else cares, you know? Cut that shit.
Get it out the door. That's that's been my biggest
lesson in in cutting things downand making things efficient.
What do you think? Less?
My biggest lesson or? Yeah.

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Has you been editing What's whatHave you realized works well?
Better? I mean maybe to go more
mechanical side, but. If you're like thinking about
doing audio editing or any kind of editing like as a profession

(40:10):
or even like as a hobby, make sure you know the shortcuts
because shortcuts will save yourlife 10 times out of 10.
I feel like if I if I had didn'tknow any of like the like the
standard like copy paste shortcuts, I feel like the the

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four to six hour editing time span could easily be like 1012
hours easy. Just like doing the monotonous
like cut, cut, cut, cut of like everything.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
But yeah, Ripple deletes like selecting everything at the
right like all those little things go along with.

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Exactly. Yeah, yeah, I just, it's just,
it's just like learning how to, learning how to use a, a
specific brush when you're like painting a picture, you know
what I mean? Oh, yeah.
That's good. That's a really good way to put
it. It's a good, what's it called?

(41:16):
Analogy. It's a good analogy, you know,
because if you use a sponge overa brush for certain things, that
could save you hours of time. Exactly.
Exactly. You know, I really like that.
And Jared, would you learn? Would you learn while editing
our podcast? Well, let me tell you, you guys

(41:37):
have very different sounds than what I hear when I hear my own
voice. Oh, you know, I don't know how
you guys do it. I, I hate the sound of my own
voice. That's all.
That's all. I know I could, I wouldn't be
able to edit my own voice. I'd be like, let's just delete
all that I just listen to. No, come on bro, it's.

(41:58):
Not I can't Oh dude I cringe so easy and anytime I hear myself
I'm like Nope delete it. But you were.
Screamer for so long? What do you mean I didn't?
Listen to his own voice. You.
Just, I mean, I gotta face. Your fears, you know what I
mean? Head on.
And that's what I did for that is funny.
But yeah, no, it's, it's tough. Hyper's got a a good next

(42:20):
question I think. When editing, do you prioritize
the audience demographic more oryour own artistic vision?
I prioritize audience and the guys's artistic vision as much

(42:44):
as I want to be like, oh, like Iwant to do what I want to do At
the end of the day, this like any other job.
This is a job where somebody else is paying me to do a
specific, you know, episode. So in in theory, Dan, Jared,

(43:05):
Tony, Alec are kind of my quote UN quote directors, you know.
Yeah. So it is a little bit of like
what they say goes, but when I am on my own, like doing what I
need to do, I do need to keep inmind audience and that like I

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want to make sure that they're understanding what's going on.
You know something, something that Tony does a lot while he's
like playing the game, is he'll explain something 15 * / 15
different ways. Yeah.
So sometimes I'll just be like, OK, let's just bring that down
to one way, make it look concise, a little bit easier to

(43:51):
listen to. But yeah, so it's a little bit
of a column, a little bit of column B, you know?
Yeah. And just to get a little more
technical about it, I guess frommy side, right, we've been doing
this for four years, a little over.
So we've cultivated a certain way that we edit the podcast and

(44:13):
it sounds a certain way and we want to make sure that it is
consistent for as many years as we do this.
You know, so with consistency comes things like guidelines.
So we have editing guidelines and those are not rails, you
know, they're not rails, but it's just like, hey, Glass, here
are the things we look for, try and do as much of that as

(44:36):
possible. And then the rest is up to you,
you know, up to his interpretation.
So our pace in the podcast is something that we are very, very
proud of. We're, I think we are one of the
most well paced podcasts out there.
There's not a lot of dead air that things move efficiently

(44:59):
like a roller coaster. We let things breathe when they
need to, when things are sad or slow, but then pick up and go
quickly when the energy needs tobe high, you know?
So those kind of things are all in a document that Glass will
continue to help us make even ashe discovers things as he edits.

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So that document is something we'll go back to now and again,
just to double check, like, OK, are we all, do we all have the
same vision with this? Are we still holding true to our
vision? Is it still consistent?
And that's our secret sauce. It kind of keeps everything as

(45:40):
tidy as you hear it when you listen to it on release day.
So that's, that's a more technical answer, I guess if you
wanted it. But to answer it directly, I
guess audience is slightly higher for me.

(46:03):
Yeah. Slightly, we have our own ways.
To do it. You know that 49% is the way we
want to tell the story and how we do the music and do the sound
effects and how Glass decides tocut certain words together.
But at the end of the day, we don't want you guys sitting

(46:24):
through a bunch of inside jokes and dead air and dice rolling
and like all that craziness, so.Yeah, for sure, Glass Gooch
Masters 69420 asks What's your favorite vegetable?
Oh shit, OK, favorite. Vegetable harder hitting

(46:51):
questions. Yeah, Oh my God.
Right after the worm 1. Jeez, Favorite vegetable.
I I feel like, I feel like a cucumber is so versatile.
You know what I mean? Yeah, I want to eat cucumber.
Put it in a salad. Put.
It in a pickle even. You got pickle like, you know,

(47:13):
yeah, I feel like cucumbers could kind of do it all.
It's an awesome answer. Yeah, yeah.
I would say beets all right. Must beets. 00.
Iceberg lettuce on a burger. Nope, I will throw it away.

(47:34):
Oh. My goodness, we got to find him
a vegetable. Because it's tomatoes some less.
Right. I mean, I hear pizza right is
OK. Yeah, tomato, I guess I'll say.
Pizza. Vegetable.
Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Cheese has to be in there somewhere, right?
Isn't that part of it? Cheese the animal.

(48:01):
And that's the vegetable of the animal product world, right?
Cheese. Pretty sure you it grows on
trees, no? Ground.
I will say though, how's that? Whenever, whenever I get like
wings and they give me like thatside celery and carrot, I'm
like, what are you doing? What do you think?
I like the carrots. Get this.
Out of my face. I'm not going to eat it.

(48:23):
I'm trying to stuff my I. Came here for wings and soda.
Why do you think I'm going to eat?
Cackling. I think celery might be like I I
don't need any any vegetables, but like I think celery might be
my most hated one because I havea my sense of smell is probably

(48:45):
like one of like if I had a superpower, it's probably my
sense of smell. Celery for some reason triggers
me so hard. If it's I I like I specifically
what can't? I can't even eat the wings if
it's around. Like I can't even like touch it
because then it's on my hands. I have to wash my hands like 2-3
times just to get it off. I hate it.

(49:05):
Celery down with celery. Get it out of here.
Down with celery. No more celery.
Celery has to go. I mean, I'm trying to think of
other vegetables that have like a distinct smell.
I think celery is the only one that I could think of and maybe
like carrot. I feel like carrot has like a
distinct smell to it but. I think cucumber has a pretty

(49:27):
distinct smell when you slice itfresh, yeah.
I don't know what a pickle is, but that's horrendous as well.
Have you never had a pickle either?
I mean mistakenly, accidentally for like half a second before
viciously throwing up. Yes, Oh my.
God got out to the hospital. They had the stomach pump you.

(49:47):
Oh. Man, I thought it was on life
support. I dodged a real bullet that day.
OK, no, it's fine. But anyways, I think we still
got some more questions. I think we got a good ending
question, OK, down here to get going, but Steifenheimer asked,

(50:11):
is there anything that would make you guys stop the podcast?
Yes, it's called. It's called the stop record
button. Yep, that's about.
It is my joke answer. Yeah, I really don't think so.
Like we really enjoy it. It's like fun to do.

(50:34):
Like we get to hang out once a week.
Like these guys thinks they treat tricked me into D&D, but I
really tricked them into being my friends so.
Who's the real winner? Who's winning now?
Now they got to put up with me. No, I think it's I don't know.
I really don't know. That's a that's a loaded

(50:55):
question. I don't think there is like
right now it's we're going to finish campaign too.
And if we see like, oh, hey, we got, you know, say our
viewership went up and then OK, we'll do campaign three.
If it didn't and say we just kept doing it this way, we'd
definitely have a conversation, be like, hey, do we even need to
record it at that point? Like, you know, maybe at that

(51:17):
point, is it really worth it? You know, maybe something like
that. But I don't see that happening.
I see that everyone seems to really enjoy it.
Everything's great. We hold ourselves to high
standards and we enjoy doing it so.
Maybe like spontaneous combustion, one of us just
exploded. Yep.
That would that would probably stop the.

(51:37):
Podcast, right, Right. I'm just thinking realistic.
I just had a an amazing idea forApril Fools and I will tell you
after we get through with this exciting I got to write down
shut up, don't talk to me. If we stopped paying glasses
bills he would stop editing for us.
So. Right.
That would probably end it. I say Bills, but we are a part

(52:03):
time job for him as well. We get we give him a good a good
amount, I hope, but it is only once a week that he edits an
episode. Right.
Hopefully it becomes a full timething.
And yes, honestly, that that is the dream.
The dream is that we have a lot of friends that have like

(52:25):
specific things that are really good in like corporate worlds
and things like this or like storytelling things or like, you
know, production things and, youknow, whatever.
And if we can just keep growing and that we can hire them in and
I can get my friends to not haveto work crappy jobs, that's my

(52:46):
dream. Like that's all I want.
I don't, I don't mind if I keep working.
That's fine. I I have an awesome job.
Like it's whatever. But like if I can get at my
friends to not have to work, I'mgoing to do that.
So it's going to be great. But they, yeah, I think we have
like a really cool crew. I don't know, don't think it
could happen right now, but coolcrew.

(53:07):
We do have one special thing left that I want to bring up.
Yes, we do that. I did not know about a good
special thing. Glass has been very interested
in a certain certain thing lately.
Oh. Right.
Why don't you tell him about it?All right, so last time I went
to, I mean, if you're on the discord, let's plug the Discord

(53:31):
real quick. You would have seen that I went
to go buy. Is this his?
Butt load of cards for a new rift bound card game.
Is our suggestion for the end ofthe episode right?
Yeah. And I as I was leaving they gave
me a little goodie bag and in a little goodie bag there was

(53:51):
another pack just to loose. Sound like sick.
OK cool. And I thought I might open it on
screen. So.
That's awesome. For the audio listener, so it's
the League of Legends came out with a new card game.
So a lot of our discord, we talkabout the one piece card game
move out of the way. One piece your old news.

(54:13):
Well, now we got League of Legends riff bound.
Let me tell you me and glass have been playing it a lot.
It's pretty fun. It's really fun.
It's pretty simple to get into the rules are pretty basic.
The hero mechanics awesome. I'm liking it so far.
I thought my main character was going to be Darius or Volibear.

(54:36):
Turns out it's Master Ghee. He's amazing.
It's crazy. But so glass in front of him has
a booster pack, am I right? And he's going to open it and
then we'll just read out some ofthe cards and see if we get any
kind of cool hits. All right, I don't know how to
do this, but let's go all. Right, what do we got?

(54:58):
We got stand united. All right, cleave, awesome
cards. The spell.
Cool spell lecturing Yordle. I remember you playing that
earlier. Uh huh, uh huh.
Forge to the it's fucking Forge to the of the future.
It's all flipped for me. There we go.

(55:24):
Undercover agents. These are the Commons.
We got a cruel patron. Yeah, Kinku Monk.
There it is. Salvage and we got a land.
Love it. We got another land.

(55:45):
I think this oh, this is a foil land.
You can't really see it on camera.
OK, OK, nice. And.
And Bugdorf? Yeah, that's a good one.
Is that foiled and a set? Yeah, the last three cards are
all foiled. Are they nice?
So it's. Land and the 2 champions.
So victor in set awesome. So the big hits in this.

(56:09):
So if you're like ATCG, Pokémon Collector, the big hits in this
game are alternate arts of the main characters and they're also
signed. That's like the big hit.
That's the holographic Charizardin this in this set.
So they're like they're like digitally signed, but they look

(56:32):
really, really cool. But no, we didn't get them on
this, but we thought it was something fun.
We we talked about that in the discord a lot and wanted to
bring it to you guys. So awesome so far.
Like like I opened a booster box.
It's not fully opened yet, but so far I've found one card

(56:52):
that's like $80, which is prettycool.
But yeah, beyond that. It's new.
It's so. Yeah.
Yeah, we got to figure out what is going to be expensive as well
as these. I will say the most expensive
card is like 2000 some dollars and it's the signed.
What was it? Ari?

(57:13):
I think is what it was. And that'll probably go down in
the next few months. Yeah, right.
So that's why I'm kind of curious is if maybe is that like
the, I don't know, we'll see, see.
We'll see. All right, everybody give your
most editing goodbye. Good, but I edit that together.

(57:36):
Yeah, so. So.
Goodbye. Wait, let me try that again.
Goodbye. Wait.
No, I didn't like that one. Goodbye.
Bye. And this is the last time we're
doing this rushed version of thePatreon supporters.
The next one will be our new version because we have a new

(57:58):
format that we'll be rolling out.
We'll send it out to Patreon in a message to let you know how
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