Emotions Matter. Really!

Emotions Matter. Really!

Chantal Dawtrey and Matthew Green, founders of 5th Place, explore everything about emotions, feelings, and what it is to become and remain mentally healthy and emotionally fit.


October 25, 2022 23 min

Smiling makes us feel better. It’s a scientific fact. Chantal and Matthew explore the subject and science of smiles, how they make us feel better and how smiling more can support our emotional fitness and mental health.

Music: Corporate Happy (Long) - Daddy’s Music

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After introducing the five pillars of emotional fitness a few weeks ago, Matthew and Chantal delve deeper into the second pillar of Emotional Fitness, Moving. Humans tend to be very sedentary beings when they were built to move! Everyone knows that exercise is important for physical fitness but did you know that movement is vital for ongoing emotional fitness too? This episode explores why.

Music: Swinging Web by SergeQuadrado


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Workplace bullying can be difficult to deal with while it has serious long reaching health and wellbeing consequences. It often flies under the radar because of its verbal and psychological tactics. In this podcast, the first of Season 3, Chantal and Matthew explore what workplace bullying can look like, who bullies and who gets bullied and what to do about it.

Music: Summer Surf by AudioCoffee

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September 20, 2022 30 min

Who hasn't wanted more peace in their lives? Matthew and Chantal explore how driven to aggression and division we tend to be, and how Hollywood seems to seed a heavily conflict oriented approach to solving problems. The place to start is always with ourselves, finding more peace in ourselves is the first step to finding more peace out in the world. 

Music: Motivational Day by AudioCoffee

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    After introducing the five pillars of emotional fitness a few weeks ago, Matthew and Chantal delve deeper into the first pillar of Emotional Fitness, Thinking. They explore the pillar and what it means in the context of building emotional fitness and why it is important for our overall wellbeing.

    Music: Save Me by Liborio Conti

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    September 6, 2022 49 min

    With World Suicide Prevention Day coming up on 10 September, Chantal and Matthew talk about the subject that no-one wants to really talk about - Suicide. A hard subject to deal with but that makes it all the more necessary to face it and talk about it. Matthew shares his lived experience of suicide ideation and attempts and the learning that has come out of that very dark time in his past.

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    August 30, 2022 67 min

    A fascinating conversation with Ben Ahrens who is a chronic illness recovery expert, TEDx Speaker, Neuroplasticity coach, and Co-founder of Re-origin. In this episode Matthew and Chantal have a conversation with him about his passion for healing and recovery, by using the basics of neuroplasticity to rewire the brain for optimal health and functioning.

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    August 23, 2022 37 min

    Having been reminded that emotion regulation is key for overall emotional and mental wellbeing, Chantal and Matthew explore the seven elements of the model of emotional fitness that emerge out of the working definition of emotional fitness. They then cover the five pillars of emotional fitness that underpin their practical, holistic and multifaceted approach to becoming and remaining emotionally fit.

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    August 16, 2022 38 min

    The importance of building emotional fitness in the youth of today is made even more urgent by some scary global and local statistics regarding their mental and emotional wellbeing. Chantal and Matthew interrogate the current situation and the impact that lockdowns, social media and ongoing stigma have had. They explore the drive to find alternative, non-medicinal approaches to attend to depression and anxiety in youth and in the p...

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    National Women’s Day in South Africa inspired Matthew and Chantal to focus on and celebrate women and  how being emotionally fit is of particular importance for women. They consider what is needed to start the journey, some particular challenges and how important it is for women to support women in this drive for equality and acceptance.

    Music credit: Music credit: Liborio Conti - Amazing

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    International Day of Friendship inspired a conversation about friends and how good for our emotional fitness having good friends is. Chantal and Matthew talk about what makes a good friend, how friends can come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime, and that it takes conscious intentional effort to build and maintain a network of good friends.

    Music credit: Warm Memories by Keys of Moon

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    James Smith is the VP for an innovative job platform for healthcare workers in Canada called Caring Support. An advocate of emotional intelligence, James absolutely loves to network, be active in the community, and build genuine relationships. In this podcast episode Chantal & Matthew have a connecting conversation with James about his passion and drives.

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    In the week of International Nelson Mandela Day, Chantal and Matthew explore the lessons from Nelson Mandela’s life as told in his book Long Walk to Freedom. Nelson Mandela characterised enormous emotional resilience and was a great example of being emotionally fit. Events and quotes are picked out and discussed as examples of his leadership, wisdom and resonance with the work that Chantal and Matthew do.

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    July 12, 2022 29 min

    Conversations connect us. Inspired by the inaugural New Conversations Day started by Awkward Silence, an Australian company that advocates for more meaningful, inspiring conversations, Chantal and Matthew have a conversation about what inspires them, what makes for a great conversation and what to do when conversations become difficult. 

    Music credit:  madiRFAN - Both of Us via Pixabay

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    July 5, 2022 29 min

    Hello! Hello! Chantal and Matthew are back with their second season of Emotions Matter. Really!

    In recognition of Global Forgiveness Day, they consider what forgiveness is, why it is important and how to take the, sometimes difficult, steps to be more forgiving by reviewing the work of Robert Enright, psychologist and professor of educational psychology and long time researcher of forgiveness. Considering that their country was sav...

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    May 24, 2022 35 min

    For this the twelfth and final episode of the first season of Emotions Matter. Really! Chantal and Matthew explore the C of their ABC of life teachings. Choose love, always. In line with their theme for the year - It starts with me - they delve deeper into what it means to love yourself. 

    Music credit:  Olexy from Pixabay, Morning garden acoustic chill

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    May 17, 2022 20 min

    During a visit to the Big Tree in Hoekwil, South Africa, Chantal and Matthew drew inspiration to develop the Act like a Tree principles and the ABC of life teachings that grew out of that. This week they explore the B of the ABC - Bring the light.

    What they mean by bringing the light, why it is important and how everyone can do it.

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    May 10, 2022 30 min

    Last year we (Chantal and Matthew) went on a road trip to George, a town, in the Southern Coast of South Africa, to visit Tristan, Matthew’s son who he had not seen for over a year. The trip was full of learning and discovery and reconnection. On the last day they met the Big Tree. This meeting was important and impactful. It led to the Act like a Tree principles as well as the ABC’s of Life. A year later, Matthew is back in George...

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    Burnout has seen an alarming increase and although it may appear that burnout is a 21st century ailment, it actually has ancient roots. Chantal and Matthew look at where the concept of burnout has originated from, what the symptoms of burnout are and what causes it. Some essential strategies to avoid as well as recover from burnout are discussed. 

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    April 26, 2022 26 min

    It is Freedom Day in South Africa, a public holiday that commemorates the first democratic elections held in 1994. Matthew and Chantal consider what freedom means to them and what not having freedom can do to one’s mental and emotional wellbeing. They look at different freedoms and the responsibilities they come with. Finally they address how one can be free from one’s own self imposed limitations and beliefs. 

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